tcl security
debaser
processes on my system. However, the powers that be where I work will
not allow tcl to be installed because it is open source and there is
some fear of security and instability with open source products here.
Can anyone point to any cases or books that I might use to build an
argument for getting tcl installed here? thanks
Robert Hicks
Just curious...what do the powers that be want you to use instead?
:Robert
debaser
user passwords on several servers, can be accomplished by unix
script.. I have tried this, but have had much difficulty calibrating
the 'delay' command to the interactive prompts of 'passwd'.
Robert Hicks
So they think a Unix shell script is more *secure* than a Tcl script?
Yipes!
Jeff Godfrey
"debaser" <gbr...@gmail.com> wrote in message
news:1153767632.0...@h48g2000cwc.googlegroups.com...
So, don't install Tcl. Run your Tcl script against a TclKit or, go
all the way and just create a stand-alone StarPack. No Tcl
installation required... Would that be acceptable to "the powers that
be"?
Jeff
Glenn Jackman
> Robert Hicks wrote:
> > debaser wrote:
> > > Hi. I want to use tcl's expect tool to automate some interactive unix
> > > processes on my system. However, the powers that be where I work will
> > > not allow tcl to be installed because it is open source and there is
> > > some fear of security and instability with open source products here.
> > > Can anyone point to any cases or books that I might use to build an
> > > argument for getting tcl installed here? thanks
> >
> > Just curious...what do the powers that be want you to use instead?
>
> They suggest that these Unix processes, such as automatically changing
> user passwords on several servers, can be accomplished by unix
> script.. I have tried this, but have had much difficulty calibrating
> the 'delay' command to the interactive prompts of 'passwd'.
Tell your bosses that Expect has long been considered a "unix power
tool": http://www.oreilly.com/catalog/upt3/
See also http://wiki.tcl.tk/expect
A discussion of why you need expect to automate password changes here:
http://www-128.ibm.com/developerworks/library/l-sc1/?n-l-4112
If they're worried about open source, they can get a support contract
with ActiveState
--
Glenn Jackman
Ulterior Designer
Cameron Laird
ActiveTcl <URL: http://www.activestate.com/Products/ActiveTcl/ >
is a proprietary, quality-assured product based on Tcl which,
along with much else, includes all the latest Expect functionality.
If I correctly understand your situation, ActiveTcl is a complete
solution.
Gerald W. Lester
They do realize that almost all of the Unix shells are also open source --
don't they?
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Robert Heller
>
> debaser wrote:
> > They suggest that these Unix processes, such as automatically changing
> > user passwords on several servers, can be accomplished by unix
> > script.. I have tried this, but have had much difficulty calibrating
> > the 'delay' command to the interactive prompts of 'passwd'.
> >
> > Robert Hicks wrote:
> >> debaser wrote:
> >>> Hi. I want to use tcl's expect tool to automate some interactive unix
> >>> processes on my system. However, the powers that be where I work will
> >>> not allow tcl to be installed because it is open source and there is
> >>> some fear of security and instability with open source products here.
> >>> Can anyone point to any cases or books that I might use to build an
> >>> argument for getting tcl installed here? thanks
> >> Just curious...what do the powers that be want you to use instead?
> >>
> >> :Robert
> >
>
> They do realize that almost all of the Unix shells are also open source --
> don't they?
Pretty much all (major) current releases of 'UNIX' are open source at this
point. (This include Solaris!). The only fully closed source operating
system is MS-Windows, which in fact has the *worst* track record in
terms of 'security and stability' (it is the most INsecure and the most
UNstable).
>
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marc spitzer
> debaser wrote:
>> They suggest that these Unix processes, such as automatically changing
>> user passwords on several servers, can be accomplished by unix
>> script.. I have tried this, but have had much difficulty calibrating
>> the 'delay' command to the interactive prompts of 'passwd'.
>>
>> Robert Hicks wrote:
>>> debaser wrote:
>>>> Hi. I want to use tcl's expect tool to automate some interactive unix
>>>> processes on my system. However, the powers that be where I work will
>>>> not allow tcl to be installed because it is open source and there is
>>>> some fear of security and instability with open source products here.
>>>> Can anyone point to any cases or books that I might use to build an
>>>> argument for getting tcl installed here? thanks
>>> Just curious...what do the powers that be want you to use instead?
>>>
>>> :Robert
>>
>
> They do realize that almost all of the Unix shells are also open source --
> don't they?
>
Do you use solaris? http://www.opensolaris.org
marc
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Ralf Fassel
| I have tried this, but have had much difficulty calibrating the
| 'delay' command to the interactive prompts of 'passwd'.
If you're changing passwords via interactive use of 'passwd': on many
systems there are better ways to accomplish this.
Linux has 'usermod -p', other systems will have something similar.
R'