pronounciation of Vi
Jules Alberts
aay", but a friend allways says "vee". so what's the standard
("vaay"?)? anybody? thanks.
[0] no flamebait intended, just curious
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Phil Reynolds
> how is Vi normally pronounced[0]?
Well, it's normally pronounced in lots of ways :-), but the CORRECT way
is "vee eye". That's what it's author says and he should know.
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Ben Allen
Since the topic's sort of been raised, I'd like to make sure that I
haven't been making a fool of myself in a different, but related way.
Just making sure, but "vim" is pronounced "vim" and not "vee aye em",
since it's Vi IMproved and not VI iMproved, right?
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Othniel Graichen
Please don't flame as I wouldn't care anyhow. :)
Rightly or wrongly I have been saying "vai" as "vee eye"
has gotten tedious for us Texans.
Ralf Arens
> how is Vi normally pronounced[0]? i mostly say something like "vee
> aay", but a friend allways says "vee". so what's the standard
> ("vaay"?)? anybody? thanks.
> [0] no flamebait intended, just curious
E.g. see the Jargon File:
vi /V-I/, not /vi:/ and never /siks/ n.
So the pronunciation of your friend is wrong.
Ciao,
Ralf
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Phil Reynolds
>
> Since the topic's sort of been raised, I'd like to make sure that I
> haven't been making a fool of myself in a different, but related way.
> Just making sure, but "vim" is pronounced "vim" and not "vee aye em",
> since it's Vi IMproved and not VI iMproved, right?
Right. Otherwise the Tigger poetry in Sven Guckes' signature wouldn't
work (see http://www.vim.org).
You may still, of course, be making a fool of yourself in all sorts of
ways, but this isn't one of them. :-)
Ralf Arens
[ pronunciation problems ]
> Since the topic's sort of been raised, I'd like to make sure that I
> haven't been making a fool of myself in a different, but related way.
> Just making sure, but "vim" is pronounced "vim" and not "vee aye em",
> since it's Vi IMproved and not VI iMproved, right?
Maybe it should be pronounced /V-Im/, since it's /V-I/. Or maybe
deducing these things doesn't always lead to the correct (read common)
pronunciation, because PC should then be pronounced /P-K/ (personal
computer).
Problems over problems and Bram is on holidays... ;-)
Ciao,
Ralf
PS: I have to admit I say "vee eye em", but most people I know say
"vim".
Joachim Hofmann
Phil Reynolds schrieb:
*The* autor? Very interesting.. who is/are/were the author(s) of original
vi? why he/they are not so much famous than Kernighan/Ritchy ... and so on?
:-)
Achim
Alisdair McDiarmid
>
>
> Phil Reynolds schrieb:
>
> > Jules Alberts wrote:
> > > how is Vi normally pronounced[0]?
> >
> > Well, it's normally pronounced in lots of ways :-), but the CORRECT way
> > is "vee eye". That's what it's author says and he should know.
>
> vi?
/bin/vi was originally written by Bill Joy, of Ethernet fame. See
http://www.techfak.uni-bielefeld.de/~joern/jargon/vi.HTML
> why he/they are not so much famous than Kernighan/Ritchy ... and so
> on? :-)
No comment :)
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Steve Kirkendall
The primary author was Bill Joy, who is justly famous. He discussed the
the origins of vi (including many of the other programmers' names) in a
1984 interview, published in the the old Unix Review magazine. You can
read the interview at...
http://www.cs.pdx.edu/~kirkenda/joy84.html
It is really quite interesting.
Smylers
lines of:
> The primary author was Bill Joy, who is justly famous. He discussed
> the the origins of vi (including many of the other programmers' names)
> in a 1984 interview ...
>
> http://www.cs.pdx.edu/~kirkenda/joy84.html
Cheers for posting that. Some of what Bill Joy said in 1984 is quite
interesting. I like:
One of the good things about EMACS, though, is its programmability
and the modelessness. Those are two ideas which never occurred to
me.
I find it hard to believe that `Vi''s modality was an accident rather
than a conscientious choice -- it's one of the things I like best about
it, and the author doesn't seem convinced it's a good idea!
He also seemed fairly convinced that `Vi' wouldn't be used for much
longer; he thought that after ten years it was time to get rid of it
then! (I hadn't even heard of it until another ten years after that.)
He thought programmability was the main thing lacking, but also
mentioned multiple windows, multi-level undo, mouse support, and
command-line history as features -- all things which assorted `Vi'
clones have implemented since then.
I wonder which editor he uses now.
He also comments:
I think the wonderful thing about vi is that it has such a good market
share because we gave it away.
If that's the case, then how come the original is no longer available?
Smylers
Paul Fox
: I find it hard to believe that `Vi''s modality was an accident rather
: than a conscientious choice -- it's one of the things I like best about
: it, and the author doesn't seem convinced it's a good idea!
remember that he was working from an existing model -- he just preserved
and extended the modality of ed/ex.
:
: I wonder which editor he uses now.
Word, probably. :-)
paul
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Brendan Macmillan
:>
:> *The* autor? Very interesting.. who is/are/were the author(s) of original
:> vi?
: /bin/vi was originally written by Bill Joy, of Ethernet fame.
And thus the link from Vi to Java.
Ob: May Joy forgive me, but I always pronounce it as "vie".
Seems oddly appropriate to me, somehow *grin*
/vie/ <<vaI>> v.intr. (/vying/) (often foll. by "with") compete; strive for
superiority ("vied with each other for recognition").
prob. f. ME (as /envy/)
But I also pronounce "URL" as "earl".
Brendan Macmillan
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Brendan Macmillan <br...@fangorn.csse.monash.edu.au> wrote:
+ Alisdair McDiarmid <alis...@jml.net> wrote:
+ : In article <39BA8584...@fhtw-berlin.de>, Joachim Hofmann wrote:
+ :> Phil Reynolds schrieb:
+ :> > is "vee eye". That's what it's author says and he should know.
Yes indeed. But oddly enough, I have problems pronouncing vim as "vee
eye em". For me, it's "vim" (as in vim and vigor) or "gee vim" if I'm
running the gui version.
+ But I also pronounce "URL" as "earl".
Somewhere there's a good "duke of URL" joke floating around, but most
people don't remember that song now.
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Sven Guckes
> May Joy forgive me, but I always pronounce it as "vie".
> Seems oddly appropriate to me, somehow *grin*
> /vie/ <<vaI>> v.intr. (/vying/) (often foll. by "with")
> compete; strive for superiority ("vied with each other for
> recognition").
oui - c'est la vi!
> But I also pronounce "URL" as "earl".
Figures - with you people
everything is umop-ap!sdn ..
Sven [Kraut]
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study vee-eye pronunciation.
I will teach you in my verse,
things like c-x c-c and worse.