To All
PC Datasheet
newsgroups. In the past he has posted slanderous obscenities about
responders and now this is his new bag of tricks. He is a small-minded
individual with low self esteem and continually looking for a means to make
himself look like a big person, the god of the newsgroups. Here is how he
responds to the question of who monitors the newsgroups:
FYI Steve:
*I* am monitoring this group (and other groups ...)
Arno R
Ignore him!
I am in business to provide customers with a resource for help with
Microsoft Access, Excel and Word
applications. I provide help for a very reasonable fee. Sometimes when I
respond to a poster with a complex problem, I usually outline to him what
needs done then offer my help as an alternative. The following is a quote
from a recent poster to a newsgroup who contacted me with his problem:
"Hey, nothing wrong with letting people know you can help them for problems
that go beyond the scope of a volunteer discussion group. Rookies like me
sometimes expect miracles on those types of websites and that just isn't
reality." And a poster who contacted me, paid me for some help and then
said:
"Wow. This is nice. Very nice. This should help us immensely! Thank you
so much for your help."
Ignore Arno R and eventually he will go away!
Steve
PC Datasheet
reso...@pcdatasheet.com
Arno R
"PC Datasheet" <nos...@nospam.spam> schreef in bericht news:1UIqe.2921$VK4....@newsread1.news.atl.earthlink.net...
>A person going by Arno R has been harassing me and other responders to the
> newsgroups.
> In the past he has posted slanderous obscenities about
> responders and now this is his new bag of tricks.
Obvious nonsense also.
> Here is how he
> responds to the question of who monitors the newsgroups:
>
> FYI Steve:
> *I* am monitoring this group (and other groups ...)
>
> Arno R
True, I *am* monitoring *you* indeed.
We have not seen very much of you lately since the 'Stop Steve' threads.
==> I really hope you are *not* going to show us that all you have learned is *this* ???
IMO it was 'nice' the last month's (almost) without your advertising and job-hunting in the newsgroups ...
So, let's keep it nice.
<snipped the rest , also nonsense IMO>
Arno R
Randy Harris
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> [snip]
> I am in business to provide customers with a resource for help with
> Microsoft Access, Excel and Word
>
In my opinion, this crosses the line. I've never objected to, nor commented
on, Steve's use of sig line adverstising. This, however, is blatant spam.
Tim Marshall
> I am in business to provide customers with a resource for help with
> Microsoft Access, Excel and Word
> applications. I provide help for a very reasonable fee.
I can't speak for the other newsgroups, but your behaviour of assuming
personas to ask questions and then answering them yourself on cdma is
deceitful and probably deserving of the ridicule it has received from
Arno and a few others. It's not a violation of the charter, it's just
either kooky behaviour or shystering, depending on one's viewpoint.
On the other hand, your blatant solicitation of business on the
newsgroup is a direct violation of the cdma charter and FAQ, which can
be found at http://www.mvps.org/access/netiquette.htm
In particular, this section:
* * * * * * * * * * * *
The following are specifically forbidden in the CDMA newsgroup:
* Advertising of any kind, even if the product is free, a demo, or
otherwise. You may answer a question with a link to a commercial site
which pertains to the question. You may also add a phrase and/or link in
your signature.
* * * * * * * * * * * *
You have refused to abide by this part of the group charter and are
therefore fully deserving of censure, ridicule and heaps of dog dirt
that may be dumped on you. You reap what you sow. Ask yourself why
Arno is "picking on you".
Rather than whinging about someone taking you to task for your behaviour
and sounding like the school yard sneak who bursts into tears when he's
caught, take responsibility for your actions and abide by the group charter.
My feeling is that I would be loathe to hire someone who has a difficult
time following the rules of a forum. Such people who deflect
responsibility for their actions like you are doing rarely are capable
of thinking constructively and don't take comments on their work very
well. You are painting a picture of yourself, steve, so think about
what colours you want to use.
--
Tim http://www.ucs.mun.ca/~tmarshal/
^o<
/#) "Burp-beep, burp-beep, burp-beep?" - Quaker Jake
/^^ "Whatcha doin?" - Ditto "TIM-MAY!!" - Me
PC Datasheet
Microsoft.Public.Access.GettingStarted newsgroup with the following advice.
Arno R
responded with his harrassing post.
Create a query that includes the fields JobTitle and Salary. Set the
criteria of JobTitle to the one you want to give a raise to. Convert the
query to an Update query. Where it says Update To under Salary, put this
expression:
[Salary]+1000
--
PC Datasheet
Your Resource For Help With Access, Excel And Word Applications
reso...@pcdatasheet.com
www.pcdatasheet.com
At 2:00 today I responded to a post on the
Microsoft.Public.Access.GettingStarted newsgroup with the following advice.
Arno R
responded with his harrassing post.
Start by looking at the Dir function in the Help file.
--
PC Datasheet
Your Resource For Help With Access, Excel And Word Applications
reso...@pcdatasheet.com
www.pcdatasheet.com
Arno R is not the god of the newsgroups. In fact, if you do your homework,
you will be startled by who he is and what he has been doing for a long
time. I am going to post my "To All" post frequently until Arno R goes away
or at least quits harassing me.
Steve
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PC Datasheet
You took my statement out of context. The statement was informational to
support the remaining paragraph. Here's the full paragraph ---
I am in business to provide customers with a resource for help with
Microsoft Access, Excel and Word
applications. I provide help for a very reasonable fee. Sometimes when I
respond to a poster with a complex problem, I usually outline to him what
needs done then offer my help as an alternative. The following is a quote
from a recent poster to a newsgroup who contacted me with his problem:
"Hey, nothing wrong with letting people know you can help them for problems
that go beyond the scope of a volunteer discussion group. Rookies like me
sometimes expect miracles on those types of websites and that just isn't
reality." And a poster who contacted me, paid me for some help and then
said:
"Wow. This is nice. Very nice. This should help us immensely! Thank you
so much for your help."
If you want to find something to comment on or object to, do your homework
on Arno R. You will be startled who he is and what he has been doing for a
long time.
Also, read my response in this thread.
Steve
PC Datasheet
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PC Datasheet
You do not know of what you speak.!! If you are making up untrue statements
then you are no better than Arno R. I have NEVER asked questions and then
answered them myself on cdma. What is your motive? You are the one that is
being deceitful and exhibiting kooky behaviour or shystering, depending on
one's viewpoint. If you are man enough, I expect an apology and a retraction
from you.
If you do your homework, you will be startled by who Arno R is and what he
has been doing for a long time.
Steve
PC Datasheet
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PC Datasheet
Microsoft.Public.Access.Queries newsgroup with the following advice.
Arno R responded with his harrassing post.
Create a table of numbers from 10000 to 20000. Then create an unmatched
query to look for numers in the number table that are not in the part number
table.
--
PC Datasheet
Your Resource For Help With Access, Excel And Word Applications
reso...@pcdatasheet.com
www.pcdatasheet.com
Arno R is not the god of the newsgroups. In fact, if you do your homework,
you will be startled by who he is and what he has been doing for a long
time. I am going to post my "To All" post frequently until Arno R goes away
or at least quits harassing me.
Steve
PC Datasheet
"PC Datasheet" <nos...@nospam.spam> wrote in message
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Tim Marshall
> You do not know of what you speak.!! If you are making up untrue statements
> then you are no better than Arno R. I have NEVER asked questions and then
> answered them myself on cdma. What is your motive?
Your behaviour in this regard has been demonstrated and proven by other
posters, a couple of times this year - taking on female persona and
accidentally leaving your PC datasheet sig, is one example. These
"outings" were *NOT* first discovered by Arno, but by one or possibly
two very big and well respected guns on cdma.
Look. You *ARE* helpful to other posters here in answering questions.
Leave it at that and stop violating the group charter, because you make
yourself look bad by being involved in any flame war. Note again my
metaphor of what colours you want to paint yourself with.
Randy Harris
"Tim Marshall" <TIMMY!@PurplePandaChasers.Moertherium> wrote in message
Steve, I think that a great many of us that follow these newsgroups feel the
same as Tim on this matter. Do yourself a favor, avoid the flame war and
simply continue to help people by answering questions. You've been doing
that quite ably for a long time.
WSF
The forums have been a very very valuable source, helping me out of a
code pothole or three, sometimes in very quick time. I post a question
while working on a project - the answer can come from any corner of the
Globe, sometimes in minutes! For an old fart like me that's incredible -
beats going down to the library of twenty years ago and spending hours
not finding the answer! Hell, I have even contributed too, especially in
Excel, which I can make dance and answer back! But Access, after years
of me using it still tests my patience sometimes. So thank heaven for
the forums and those contributing - sure there are the regulars, the
guru's - and Google too! Even our friend PC Datasheet has responded to a
question or two of mine. That is appreciated.
But Steve, if that is your real name, in attempting some kind of
redemption you incite response from people who seem level-headed in
their response to your plight.
I cannot help thinking that the attitude I see here today, with due
respect, is like having someone go into a Citizens' Advice Bureau for
advice, only to be handed a business card by the CAB volunteer with the
whisper "If that don't fix your problem give me a call - my charges are
reasonable".
Steve, when are you going to realise you are up against it? Your are
being toasted! You refer in your post to "customers". If indeed you have
a customer base surely they are your best resource for ongoing business?
Not sly advertising on a volunteer forum?
Your website tells us nothing - it does not say who you are or what you
are. Considering your indignity at the treatment you claim to suffer at
the hands of the likes of Arno R your credentials are rather thin.
In it you list among your qualifications a "Library (Indexed) of Over
1000 Procedures Taken From Various Sources", "Large library of Reference
Books", yet not one formal IS/IT qualification based on study or
recognised work experience, or a genuine testimonial with bona fide links.
Contribute like others, but without the commercials. It really is
appreciated. Arno R is, just maybe, a defender of the Realm!
It really is a matter of keeping the NG faith.
And let's keep our sense of humour guys.
WSF
ps I just had a couple of minutes to kill before dinner, vent my spleen
so to say. Ah, that feels better. Look out, here come the cook with the
chook! And roast veggies, gravy - Yummmmmm! where's the vino!
David C. Holley
Granted the second doesn't doesn't go into the detail that probably
could, however I myself have posted quick responses where I felt that I
didn't have the time to go into detail, but still wanted to point the
person in the right direction. I haven't been accused of harrasement.
What I do find disturbing is
#1) *YOU* have posted this thread to multiple newsgroups. Which I see as
nothing short of harrasement on *YOUR* part, as multiple posting annoy
all of us.
#2) "I am going to post my "To All" post frequently until Arno R goes
away or at least quits harassing me." That statement is nothing short of
harrasment in and of itself. Quite frankly, if you're being harrased
thats one thing but as a frequent visitor one of the many threads that
you've posted to, I myself do not appreciate the thought of seeing your
tirades posted over and over again. If you're that upset, create a blog.
This (these) newsgroups are *NOT* your personal forumns.
State your case and *GET OVER IT*.
For the records *I* will NOT be replying to any other related messages
simply to avoid further SPAMMING the newsgroups.
David H
Arno R
> If you want to find something to comment on or object to, do your homework
> on Arno R. You will be startled who he is and what he has been doing for a
> long time.
Feel free to show us Steve ... Any links or so ??
All your accusations against me are merely a classic example of what is called 'projection' in psychology.
Arno R
PC Datasheet
is propagating the virus. He is a little person with very low self esteem
looking for ways to make himself look like the big person he is not.
Sometime ago there were two very frequent contributors to
Comp.Databases.MS-Access and Microsoft.Public.Access.Reports. These two
individuals were particularly experst in reports and frequently shared their
knowledge. Arno R targetted these two individuals with slander, ridicule and
general harassment. They had done nothing to deserve such treatment. He was
chastised by other regular contributors to the nesgroups but ignored them.
Arno R sought the power of being able to destroy two very capable
contributors to the newsgroups. He succeeded!! You won't see these two
contributors in the newsgroups anymore. Some of you who have been around a
long time might recall who I am talking about. The power Arno R thought he
had gotten from this episode apparently was not enough for him. It wasn't
long after that that he began projecting himself as an MVP under many
aliases. This continued for some time. Again apparently the initials MVP
after alias names did not give him the recognition he sought so after some
time he stopped his impersonation. His low self esteem still was there so
his next episode was to post questions to the newsgroups and then answer
them under a multitude of aliases. Just as the perpetraters of viruses, he
has the skills it takes to execute these charades. Evidence how he is able
to trace every post I have made. But just as the perpetrators of viruses, he
channels these skills in wrong directions. For a while Arno R's esteem got a
boost. However, again apparently he realized that any praise he was
receiving for his responses was not coming from any outsiders but from only
himself. The number of posts and counter responses waned and finally
disappeared. And now the cycle is beginning all over. His goal is to be
thought of as the god of the newsgroups. Don't support him.
Steve
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Larry Linson
"Tim Marshall" <TIMMY!@PurplePandaChasers.Moertherium> wrote in message
> Your behaviour in this regard has been demonstrated and proven by other
> posters, a couple of times this year - taking on female persona...
Being an MVP, I really don't have a problem with people taking on a female
persona.
PC Datasheet
Once again you don't know what you are talking about!!
It was NEVER demonstrated by other posters that asked questions and then
answered them myself on CDMA. You are like Arno R; just making up slanderous
statements!!! What is YOUR motive?
Are you man enough to apologize and retract your statements?
Steve
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Larry Linson
> Being an MVP, I really don't have
> a problem with people taking on
> a female persona.
Poor, poor Don... still has too much time on his hands, but he's pretty hard
up to have to impersonate _me_. If my memory doesn't fail, I think it was
Don himself who said "never trust the name on any newsgroup post to be
correct". I didn't realize he would feel it worth his while to try to prove
that...
Larry Linson
David C. Holley
automating his Outlook calendar wasn't from the President?
WSF
It gives a new meaning to the word "Jerk!"
It brings out the paranoid in me - the masochist - the the the splut,
splut, sput.............
Steve, open the window mate. A persecution complex makes pathetic
reading. Stick to helping posters with their questions without the
commercials and maybe, just maybe, Arno will leave you alone.
Hmmmm. Maybe you are ARNO in drag?
Now there's a thought.
WSF
Keith
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<snip drivel>
What is your question about MS Access? FFS, nobody CARES if someone is
coming after you. We care about helping people using Access, that's all.
That's what this forum is for. Please respect this. All you need to do to
silence Arno is to just help people where you can without ushering them into
your business' waiting room. If helping people *indirectly* helps your
business then fine, but belly-aching on here before the entire Access
community is going to harm it big time IMO.
Keith.
Tim Marshall
> It was NEVER demonstrated by other posters that asked questions and then
> answered them myself on CDMA. You are like Arno R; just making up slanderous
> statements!!! What is YOUR motive?
<sigh> Yes it has. Conclusively. There's enough crap here on your
advertizing that can be found on google.
You're really going to say you didn't post under other persona and
accidentally leave your PC Datasheet on there? I've seen it on Google
when it was pointed out. I'm not going back to look for it again. If
you've Google nuked your posts, my university server still has an
archive, but I'm simply not going through the trouble of going through it.
You've been busted. Now shut up and participate properly in the group.
> Are you man enough to apologize and retract your statements?
There's nothing to retract. Are you "man enough" to take responsiblity
for your actions and abide by the charter?
Shut up and participate properly in the group.
Tony Toews
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demonstrated by other poster that I have asked questions and then answered
them myself on CDMA. You fabricated that and it is absolutely false. What
was YOUR motive? That is what I am asking if you are man enough to apologize
for and retract.
Steve
"Tim Marshall" <TIMMY!@PurplePandaChasers.Moertherium> wrote in message
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Tim Marshall
> You're skirting the issue!! You made the statement that it has been
> demonstrated by other poster that I have asked questions and then answered
> them myself on CDMA. You fabricated that and it is absolutely false.
No, I said it was true and has been demonstrated by a couple of posters.
I looked at the google cites when it was done and it was enough for me.
Grow up and stop wasting your energy on this attempt to deflect
attention from your behaviour to others. You are sounding like a dog
howling at the moon. I've said you provide useful advice to some
questions on cdma. Why not concentrate on that?
Tony Toews
>In it you list among your qualifications a "Library (Indexed) of Over
>1000 Procedures Taken From Various Sources", "Large library of Reference
>Books", yet not one formal IS/IT qualification based on study or
>recognised work experience, or a genuine testimonial with bona fide links.
FWIW I nave no formal qualifications. And a few testimonials, which are now six or
seven years old, but by people with just their initials.
PC Datasheet
There are no Google cites to that effect and there are no posters that
demonstrated that I asked questions and then answered them myself on CDMA.
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StopThisAdvertising
"PC Datasheet" <nos...@nospam.spam> schreef in bericht news:dqhre.3341$eM6...@newsread3.news.atl.earthlink.net...
> You're skirting the issue!! You made the statement that it has been
> demonstrated by other poster that I have asked questions and then answered
> them myself on CDMA. You fabricated that and it is absolutely false. What
> was YOUR motive? That is what I am asking if you are man enough to apologize
> for and retract.
>
> Steve
It might be a surprise Steve, but I will come to your aid here...
*I* (and I Googled a lot...) have never seen you answering your own questions on cdma.
If so, I would certainly have added that to my list. You can be sure of that!
It is possible that Tim or/and others got a little 'confused' seeing posts from:
- Kristine where you signed as PCDataSheet
- PCDataSheet where you signed as Kristine
- Heather where you signed as PCDataSheet
- advertising as PC and defending this as Melanie (signed by Steve again...)
- answering in the same thread as PC and Kristine
and so on.
The examples I give here were indeed 'answering-posts', and not original questions posed by your multiple personae.
I guess these were all just mistakes. You only took the wrong identity or the wrong signature and/or both.
This 'kind of living' must be rather confusing for you ...
I for myself am already getting a little confused, using only two (2) identities here...
But what is the issue here? and who is 'skirting the issue'?
==>> The issue here is your advertising, nothing more, nothing less.
*********************************************************
As for apologies: I think *you* owe these groups some apologies.
Proposal:
-- You will stop advertising
-- I will stop hunting you
Btw: I provide links for what I am saying here. I am still waiting for any 'proof' of your accusations against me.
Arno R
Larry Linson
> FWIW I nave no formal qualifications.
> And a few testimonials, which are now
> six or seven years old, but by people
> with just their initials.
Your answers prove that you are qualified, Tony, whether you have "formal
qualifications" or not. Count this as a current testimonial, and, by the
way, I often tell people "the best collection of information and links about
Access in the multiuser environment is MVP Tony Toews' website at
http://www.granite.ab.ca/accsmstr.htm." Let me add that it's also chock-full
of other very useful information.
Larry Linson
Microsoft Access MVP
(And this ain't Donnie foolin' around, either!)
Larry Linson
> Hmmmm. Maybe you are ARNO in drag?
I _have_ heard it said that bad publicity is better than none, so maybe
you're right -- a spammer stalking himself. <CHUCKLE>
Tim Marshall
> I _have_ heard it said that bad publicity is better than none, so maybe
> you're right -- a spammer stalking himself. <CHUCKLE>
A good friend of mine who is an author says exactly this: bad publicity
also sells books...
Tim Marshall
> You're a liar!
I think you should calm down. Braying at the moon will not make it go away.
> There are no Google cites to that effect and there are no posters that
> demonstrated that I asked questions and then answered them myself on CDMA.
If they are not there now, it's because you had them nuked - I'm not
sure if you can do this like you used to be able to do on Deja.
Anyway, let's leave it at this shall we? You have your opinion of me
and I have an opinion of your behaviour. What you're experiencing here
is how usenet works when someone abuses it.
You truly don't think some of us got together and decided we'd pick on a
random poster do you? Or perhaps you do....
Anyway, let's got on with it. I look forward to reading your legitimate
answers to posts and am sure that some of these may also be of help to
me as they have in the past, OK?
Arno R
"Tim Marshall" <TIMMY!@PurplePandaChasers.Moertherium> schreef in bericht news:d8kkkm$fpn$1...@coranto.ucs.mun.ca...
> Larry Linson wrote:
>
>> I _have_ heard it said that bad publicity is better than none, so maybe
>> you're right -- a spammer stalking himself. <CHUCKLE>
>
> A good friend of mine who is an author says exactly this: bad publicity
> also sells books...
Steve also knows this:
<start quote PCDatasheet (he is 'talking' to me)>
GO TO HELL !!!!
And by the way Greaseball,
I got seven projects from the newsgroup in the last four weeks. Three were
the result of my responses on the newsgroup AND four (YES 4) were the result
of you advertising for me. KEEP UP THE GOOD WORK!!!!
Steve
<end quote PCDatasheet>
Arno R
Dennis Snelgrove
PC Datasheet
*I* (and I Googled a lot...) have never seen you answering your own
questions on cdma.
Arno R
There was nothing ever there to be NUKED!!!
What you said was a total fabrication for whatever your motive was. NOW, are
you man enough to apologize and retract all your statements???
Steve
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sincere thank you for the fortitude to step up and for being honest about
it!!
Steve
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Arno R
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>I am never unapreciative when someone does me a good turn. Consider this a
> sincere thank you for the fortitude to step up and for being honest about
> it!!
>
> Steve
Why not a reaction on my proposal ?
-- You will stop advertising
-- I will stop hunting you
Arno R
Arno R
"PC Datasheet" <nos...@nospam.spam> schreef in bericht news:iVlre.3698$VK4....@newsread1.news.atl.earthlink.net...
> In case you haven't read this - it's from an unexpected source!!
>
> *I* (and I Googled a lot...) have never seen you answering your own
> questions on cdma.
> Arno R
>
> There was nothing ever there to be NUKED!!!
>
> What you said was a total fabrication for whatever your motive was. NOW, are
> you man enough to apologize and retract all your statements???
>
> Steve
Stop this pathetic behaviour... The issue here from the beginning is *your* advertising!
What about my proposal ?
Mike MacSween
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"PC Datasheet" <nos...@nospam.spam> schreef in bericht
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> You're skirting the issue!! You made the statement that it has been
> demonstrated by other poster that I have asked questions and then answered
> them myself on CDMA. You fabricated that and it is absolutely false. What
> was YOUR motive? That is what I am asking if you are man enough to
> apologize
> for and retract.
>
> Steve
It might be a surprise Steve, but I will come to your aid here...
*I* (and I Googled a lot...) have never seen you answering your own
questions on cdma.
If so, I would certainly have added that to my list. You can be sure of
that!
Can you provide some of these links for my benefit then please. You may well
have provided them in the past. But I'd like to see some proof of the awful
things Steve's meant to have done.
I googled PCDatasheet and didn't really find anything too terrible, to be
honest.
Mike MacSween
Arno R
"Mike MacSween" <mike.macsween....@btinternet.com> schreef in bericht news:42ae05cc$0$38046$5a6a...@news.aaisp.net.uk...
>
> Can you provide some of these links for my benefit then please. You may well
> have provided them in the past. But I'd like to see some proof of the awful
> things Steve's meant to have done.
>
> I googled PCDatasheet and didn't really find anything too terrible, to be
> honest.
>
> Mike MacSween
Also I provide a link to a webpage in every post where I am hunting Steve.
http://home.tiscali.nl/arracom/stopsteve.html
On this page you can find al lot of links, about what I state about Steve.
*Everything* I state is (sad but) true.
At first (in April when I started 'Stop Steve ...") the links were in the mail here at cdma, but the 'wordwrap' issue was a problem.
On the webpage every link is a valid link. You will be surprised or stunned or both.
Do a Google search on the string " ksch...@bellsouth.net PCDataSheet " to see some cases where he makes 'mistakes'.
This 'thing' has been going on for years and years!! Enjoy!
Arno R
David C. Holley
replies is giving me quite the laugh. I just find it very difficult to
take someone seriously who keeps ranting and raving over something he
doesn't have control over. Its quite entertaining.
PC Datasheet
I'll save you time ---
It all comes down to times when I thought a post was beyond the scope of a
volunteer forum, the nature of the question suggested the poster did not
have the skills to implement a solution or just that the poster would
welcome an alternative way to solve his problem and I used a simple phrase,
"Contact me if you would like my help."
Steve
Here's a quote from someone who recently did contact me after that
message ---
"Hey, nothing wrong with letting people know you can help them for problems
that go beyond the scope of a volunteer discussion group. Rookies like me
sometimes expect miracles on those types of websites and that just isn't
reality."
"Mike MacSween" <mike.macsween....@btinternet.com> wrote in
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PC Datasheet
Arno R made this statement. Just like Tim Marshall, it is a fabrication not
supported by facts. Arno R may try and support his statement with past links
but he does not have the facts about these links and this makes him a
prevaricator like Tim Marshall. In due time after I complete my homework, I
will have some facts about some of my critics.
Steve
"Arno R" <arraNO...@tiscali.nl> wrote in message
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Randy Harris
Kristine posted a message with Steve's sig using the same posting host that
Steve uses.
Bizarre coincidence.
Bismore Dunlap
"Tony Toews" <tto...@telusplanet.net> wrote in message
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> FWIW I nave no formal qualifications. And a few testimonials, which are
> now six or
> seven years old, but by people with just their initials.
>
> Tony
> --
> Tony Toews, Microsoft Access MVP
And English is your second language. Any other tips on becoming an MVP?
Mike MacSween
I'd forgotten the 'fairy' thing and the rip off that Neil Ginsberg posted
about.
Mike
"Arno R" <arraNO...@tiscali.nl> wrote in message
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"Mike MacSween" <mike.macsween....@btinternet.com> schreef in
Arno R
He refers to the 'scam-alert' here where I say:
-- There also has been a 'Scam-alert'. If this is only partial true ...
<start quote>
Arno:
I am the one who wrote that message in this newsgroup back in 2001. I can
tell you most assuredly that what is written there is 100% true.
Neil Ginsberg
<end quote>
Arno R
"Mike MacSween" <mike.macsween....@btinternet.com> schreef in bericht news:42ae6b3b$0$38046$5a6a...@news.aaisp.net.uk...
Keith
> Larry Linson wrote:
>
>> I _have_ heard it said that bad publicity is better than none, so maybe
>> you're right -- a spammer stalking himself. <CHUCKLE>
>
> A good friend of mine who is an author says exactly this: bad publicity
> also sells books...
>
Tim Marshall
Yes, after his trial, it sounds as if he might need it, especially if he
wants any more of the plastic surgery he so desperately needs....
PC Datasheet
I contacted Ginsberg about doing some work for me. He gave me a fixed cost
quote of $500. I thought that that was somewhat high and he said a fixed
cost bid is always high to guarantee that it covers the job. He then said
that he would work at an hourly rate and guaranteed me the project cost
would be lower. I accepted his proposal. Sometime later I checked back with
him to see what progress he had made and was informed that he was only half
done and his hourly fees at that point were at $750. Nothing had changed in
the specs for what needed done. It doesn't take a rocket scientist to figure
that the final cost was going to be near $1500. That is triple his fixed
cost quote. He had guaranteed me the project cost would be lower than $500.
His guarantee was worthless and he never contacted me in regards to the
amount of time he was purportedly expending on the project. He kept my
initial deposit of $375 and I got a half done project whose finished cost
was suppose to be less than $500.
Steve
"Arno R" <arraNO...@tiscali.nl> wrote in message
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PC Datasheet
Burp-burp-beep-beep
"Tim Marshall" <TIMMY!@PurplePandaChasers.Moertherium> wrote in message
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Keith
> Keith wrote:
>
>> Maybe Michael Jackson should publish his autobiography about now then ;-)
>
> Yes, after his trial, it sounds as if he might need it, especially if he
> wants any more of the plastic surgery he so desperately needs....
Selling that pesky Beatles back-catalogue currently cluttering up his living
room floor should help.
Tim Marshall
> So, you are not man enough to apologize and retract your statements!!
>
> Burp-burp-beep-beep
I am actually. It turns out I *was* wrong about you asking questions
and answering them. So I'm sorry about that.
However, it took a question to Arno to determine that. And as he said,
it was pretty easy to misinterpret your female personae with the PC
Datasheet sig as the behaviour I was wrongly describing.
All you did was shout invective and insults all over the place and made
yourself look further like an ass. So really, your behviour over your
indignation with being caught out had nothing to do with it. You're
still violating the charter and that's what this is all about.
Now, are you "man enough" to apologize for your advertizing and
violation of the group charter? Or will you still feign innocence.
The issue is your advertizing, including repackaging responses from cdma
and other places and selling it for $125.
Now behave and participate properly in the newsgroup.
PC Datasheet
You fabricated a statement which you finally admitted was not true. Now what
facts do you base this latest statement on:
"including repackaging responses from cdma"?
Steve
"Tim Marshall" <TIMMY!@PurplePandaChasers.Moertherium> wrote in message
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Tim Marshall
> Who is the ass?
>
> You fabricated a statement which you finally admitted was not true. Now what
> facts do you base this latest statement on:
> "including repackaging responses from cdma"?
It's time for you to smarten up and be honest and participate honestly
in the group Steve. You were repackaging code from many free sources
and trying to sell it for $125 dollars which was a particularly slimey
thing to do.
Now, you got your apology. I suggest you start adhering to the
newsgroup charter. What you're doing now is text book psych - you've
latched onto something and are doing everything you can to deflect
attention from your misbehaviour.
I ask again, using your own words: are you "man enough" to apologize to
the group for your behaviour?
Tim Marshall
> You fabricated a statement which you finally admitted was not true. Now what
> facts do you base this latest statement on:
> "including repackaging responses from cdma"?
Jan 25 of this year you wrote:
"I have been collecting Access procedures from here, there and
everywhere for
a long time. They are in a folder on my harddrive and each procedure is a
Word file. There must be arounf 1000 files. The procedures are all indexed
by category and all you need to do is go to the folder, select a category
and you get a list of files. A sample is shown below. If this would be of
help to you, I will sell you a CD containing all the procedures for $125.
Email me at my email address below if you are interested. "
http://groups-beta.google.com/group/comp.databases.ms-access/msg/d9e7bfca5e913266
This is unscrupulous at best, trying to make money off procedures people
have offered here as help.
Now, I've provided a full example of your dishonesty, especially so
given the quote above from your last post in which you dissemble innocence.
Now, I'm done with you in this thread.
Continue to howl at the moon Steve, but I'm closing my window.
PC Datasheet
from cdma? You fabricated another statement!! And don't fall back on the
word "here". "here, there and everywhere" is a colloquial expression.
Steve
"Tim Marshall" <TIMMY!@PurplePandaChasers.Moertherium> wrote in message
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PC Datasheet
F. Scott Barker's Access Power Programming and Alison Balter's Using
Microsoft Access. Are you saying that this was a particuarly slimy thing for
them to do?
--
PC Datasheet
Your Resource For Help With Access, Excel And Word Applications
reso...@pcdatasheet.com
www.pcdatasheet.com
"Tim Marshall" <TIMMY!@PurplePandaChasers.Moertherium> wrote in message
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David C. Holley
a FEE to join, it is implied that any code posted here is *FREE* to the
general public. I have half the mind to figure out which state that
you're in and call the Attorney General and see if they're willing to
take legal action and throw your ass into jail.
David H
David C. Holley
a FEE to join, it is implied that any code posted here is *FREE* to the
general public. I have half the mind to figure out which state that
you're in and call the Attorney General and see if they're willing to
take legal action and throw your ass into jail.
>> If this would be of
PC Datasheet
repackaged responses from cdma. Read my post carefully; nowhere does it say
that I repackaged responses from cdma.
You'll find some of the same code in Ken Getz's Access Developer's Handbook,
F. Scott Barker's Access Power Programming and Alison Balter's Using
Microsoft Access. Is it your opinion that these works are "nothing but
plgarism and FRAUD"?
"David C. Holley" <DavidC...@netscape.net> wrote in message
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Arvin Meyers
This discussion about plagiarism and fraud is making me very uncomfortable.
I hate to say it but many of us at CDMA got our start that way. In fact
several of the founding members of CDMA are famous plagiarists and frauds,
and some of us are still stealing other peoples stuff. I don't know about
making money off it though. I can't imagine anybody dumb enough to pay for
code from CDMA.
Anyway please knock it off. I'm an MVP now and I'm trying to be a good boy,
but this discussion is giving me an upset stomach.
Thanks!
"PC Datasheet" <nos...@nospam.spam> wrote in message
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Stephen Lebans
Arvin Meyer.
--
Stephen Lebans
http://www.lebans.com
Access Code, Tips and Tricks
Please respond only to the newsgroups so everyone can benefit.
"Arvin Meyers" <nos...@nospam.net> wrote in message
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Neil
I knew you were a liar and a cheat; but this has crossed the line. You're
either a pathological liar or delusional. I hope it's the former; but I'm
starting to believe it's the latter.
I'll address what you write below and provide support from our e-mail
exchange in 2001.
(For the sake of those of you reading this, I will only provide excerpts
from e-mail where appropriate, If anyone wants to see the original e-mails,
I will send them to you upon request to n...@nrgconsult.com.)
"PC Datasheet" <nos...@nospam.spam> wrote in message
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> Here's the other half of the Neil Ginsberg story ---
>
> I contacted Ginsberg about doing some work for me. He gave me a fixed cost
> quote of $500. I thought that that was somewhat high and he said a fixed
> cost bid is always high to guarantee that it covers the job. He then said
> that he would work at an hourly rate and guaranteed me the project cost
> would be lower. I accepted his proposal. Sometime later I checked back
> with
> him to see what progress he had made and was informed that he was only
> half
> done and his hourly fees at that point were at $750. Nothing had changed
> in
> the specs for what needed done. It doesn't take a rocket scientist to
> figure
> that the final cost was going to be near $1500. That is triple his fixed
> cost quote. He had guaranteed me the project cost would be lower than
> $500.
> His guarantee was worthless and he never contacted me in regards to the
> amount of time he was purportedly expending on the project. He kept my
> initial deposit of $375 and I got a half done project whose finished cost
> was suppose to be less than $500.
>
> Steve
You originally said (E-mail 1):
> All I need then is your estimate of the number of hours. I don't need a
> formal quote, just a short email is enough.
Please note the word "estimate."
I replied (E-mail 2) with an outline of what I would do, along with a couple
of notes about items I had questions about and which would not be included
in the estimate. The estimate given was $500.
You then replied (E-mail 3):
> Thank you for the quote! Your solution looks like what I need so I am
> definitely going ahead with it. I got your email regarding your hourly
> rate and estimate of hours and will go with you doing it on an hourly
> basis.
Please note again the word "estimate" there and the note that it would be
done on an "hourly basis."
Continuing in the same e-mail from you:
> Before starting I want to finalize the specs and your estimate of the
> hours. I have some additions. Let me know if you can do them and what
> you now estimate for total hours.
Note again the word "estimate" from you when asking for my new estimate.
A few days later, you wrote (E-mail 4):
> Thanks for the analysis and suggestions!! Here are my responses to your
> last round of questions and comments. I'm ready to go if you have all
> the information you need. Please give me your new estimate of time
> (probable and conservative) so I know approximately what your fees will
> be and then I'll give you the green light. Thanks again for all the
> effort you are putting into this.
Please note here that you again use the word "estimate" when asking for my
new estimate; that you ask for a range ("probable and conservative"), not a
fixed amount; and that you state that you want to know "approximately" what
my fees will be.
So, let's recap here a bit.
1) In your recent post to the newsgroup (quoted above), you wrote:
> I contacted Ginsberg about doing some work for me. He gave me a fixed cost
> quote of $500.
That's obviously not true. Time and again in our exchange we discussed an
"estimate" for the work. Nowhere was a fixed amount mentioned.
2) You then wrote:
> I thought that that was somewhat high and he said a fixed
> cost bid is always high to guarantee that it covers the job. He then said
> that he would work at an hourly rate and guaranteed me the project cost
> would be lower.
That doesn't even make sense. If one were to guarantee a cost, then it would
be a fixed cost, not an estimate. Furthermore, in e-mails 3 and 4, above,
you ask for a "new estimate" based on additions you made. How can even one
who is delusional think that a new estimate based on additions would be
lower than the original estimate??
3) You continued:
> I accepted his proposal. Sometime later I checked back with
> him to see what progress he had made and was informed that he was only
> half
> done and his hourly fees at that point were at $750. Nothing had changed
> in
> the specs for what needed done.
That part about it being "half done" is a lie -- but I'll get back to that
later. Regarding what you wrote:
"Nothing had changed in the specs for what needed done."
Clearly that's a lie. In e-mail 3, above, you write:
> Before starting I want to finalize the specs and your estimate of the
> hours. I have some additions. Let me know if you can do them and what
> you now estimate for total hours.
Clearly, by your own admission, you had made additions to what was used for
the original estimate of $500, and that estimate was no longer valid, and
you were seeking a new one.
4) You concluded:
> It doesn't take a rocket scientist to figure
> that the final cost was going to be near $1500. That is triple his fixed
> cost quote. He had guaranteed me the project cost would be lower than
> $500.
> His guarantee was worthless and he never contacted me in regards to the
> amount of time he was purportedly expending on the project. He kept my
> initial deposit of $375 and I got a half done project whose finished cost
> was suppose to be less than $500.
I think this shows how good you are at persuading people (and I empathize
with those who are trying to point out your follies to this newgroup and get
your slick, snake oil responses). I'll address this in a bit. But I wanted
to point out that part about "He had guaranteed me the project cost would be
lower than $500." I don't see how anyone with half a brain can sincerly
believe that. Clearly you have half a brain. That means (again) that you're
either a pathological liar or delusional.
Continuing.......
I then sent you an e-mail with terms, and you replied agreeing to those
terms (E-mail 5). The second paragraph of those terms clearly stated:
"An estimate of hours would be provided before the start of the project.
The estimate is by no means a fixed price or upper limit. It is merely an
estimate of the hours to perform the work. If a change in the estimate
is required, no work will be performed beyond the original estimate without
express approval."
These were the terms that you agreed to in your e-mail (in addition to the
previous e-mails which reference the "estimate"). And now you say I
guaranteed you a fixed price for the job? Snake oil, Steve; snake oil.
After you replied to my additional questions (E-mail 4), I replied to your
response with a revised outline and some additional questions (E-mail 6). In
that e-mail I wrote:
> Right now it looks like an additional 2-3 hours from my original estimate,
> based on the items above with revision number incrementing on new records
> as
> well as old, and with the caption document as-is with mail merge fields.
> But
> I'll give you an "official" revised estimate on the next round when there
> are no more outstanding issues.
You then replied to my questions (E-mail 7) and said
> Please proceed with this project. Email me your mailing address and I
> will put a deposit of $300 in the mail to you. Can you have it done by
> the end of next week?
>
> My answers to your last round of questions is below. If there are any
> new issues or outstanding issues, email them to me and I will reply back
> to your email.
>
I then replied (E-mail 8) to your responses with some additional questions,
and stated:
> Assuming that Option 2 is a go, the revised estimate is 3-5 hours above
> the
> original estimate (8-12 hours), making the new estimate 11-17 hours.
> Please
> confirm.
I also wrote:
> The end of next week [3/16/01] looks good as a timeframe to get it done
> by.
On 3/16 you wrote asking what the status of the project was (E-mail 9). I
replied (E-mail 10) that I would be working on it over the weekend, and
should have it to you by that Monday (3/19).
That day and over the weekend we went back and forth a couple of times,
ironing out the last technical details.
That Monday at 3:30 a.m. I sent you the database with an e-mail (E-mail 11)
explaining some points, and noting that a few minor issues (a couple of
buttons for existing routines, along with one new routine) needed to be
completed, and that there was a little bit of testing that still needed to
be done. But the database was mostly (90%) complete.
At 3:40 a.m. I sent you an e-mail (E-mail 12) with a summary of the hours
worked. The total hours worked at that point was 13.2 -- well within the
range of the revised estimate (11-17 hours) that you had agreed to.
That morning, you replied with some technical issues related to the database
I had just sent you. We went back and forth a few times in e-mail, and at
5:05 p.m. that day I sent you a revised database (E-mail 13).
After more discussion (presumably by phone, since I don't have e-mails of
it), I sent you another version of the database at 1:47 a.m. on 3/20 (E-mail
14). This was after you were able to review and note issues with two
previous versions, all of which I addressed.
That morning you sent me an e-mail stating that you were "pulling the plug"
on the project; that you would not pay me for my time; and that you wanted
your $300 deposit (not $375) back. I sent you a final invoice that afternoon
for 18.4 hours (slightly over the estimate, so you were within your rights
to only pay for 17 hours, since I hadn't gotten explicit permission for the
additional hour, since it was the end of the project and it was only an
hour). You replied (E-mail 15) that I was "in breach of contract for failure
to provide a finished product and failure to deliver that product as
promised on March 16."
So, getting back to what you wrote recently.....
1) You wrote:
> Sometime later I checked back with
> him to see what progress he had made and was informed that he was only
> half
> done and his hourly fees at that point were at $750. Nothing had changed
> in
> the specs for what needed done. It doesn't take a rocket scientist to
> figure
> that the final cost was going to be near $1500.
a) The database was 90% complete. A rocket scientist would have put the
estimate at $835. But, apparently, you're not a rocket scientist.
b) As noted, much had changed in the specs for the original estimate of
$500. The revised estimate, which had been agreed upon was $765.
> That is triple his fixed
> cost quote. He had guaranteed me the project cost would be lower than
> $500.
c) As noted above, that's a lie.
> His guarantee was worthless and he never contacted me in regards to the
> amount of time he was purportedly expending on the project.
d) The fictitious guarantee that it would be lower than $500 is your
delusion. And I did contact you with a summary of hours when I initially
delivered the database, which was within the estimate had I provided.
> He kept my initial deposit of $375
> and I got a half done project whose finished cost
> was suppose to be less than $500.
e) It was a $300 deposit; the database was 90% done; and the revised
estimate was $765.
If you were really were concerned about the cost, as your bogus figures here
would lead one to believe, then you could have said that you didn't want to
pay over the 17 hours that we had agreed upon, and given me the option to
just finish up the hour or so that was left to do at that rate. I probably
would have agreed to do that. But since cost wasn't really the issue, that
wasn't an option for you.
But your original pretext was different. Originally, as noted above (E-mail
15), you wrote that the reason was that I was "in breach of contract for
failure to
provide a finished product and failure to deliver that product as promised
on March 16." What I find interesting about that is:
a) There was no agreement to deliver the product by March 16 (you asked if I
could have it by that day, and I said it "looked good for that date" --
hardly a binding agreement!).
b) When I wrote you on March 16 (E-mail 10) stating that I would have the
database to you by Monday, you not say that that was unacceptable.
c) If you were so concerned about the March 16 deadline, then why didn't you
pull the plug on March 17 when the database wasn't delievered? Why did you
wait until after I worked on it some more over the weekend; then delievered
it to you early in the morning Monday, March 19; then gave your feedback and
received another version from me later that day; then gave more feedback and
received another version from me early on March 20; then said you were
pulling the plug for not delivering it on March 16, and wouldn't pay for my
work? Why, if the supposed March 16 deadline was the issue, did you wait
until after you received the database on March 19-20 before telling me you
were cancelling the contract for not meeting the March 16 deadline, and
wouldn't be paying me for my work? Because that wasn't the issue either.
Though it became clear to me at that point that you were an unscrupulous
person with no ethical foundation, my estimation of you reached a new low a
couple of days later when I read your posting (under the pseudonym "Ron") in
CDMA a few days later, asking for help in completing the database that you
had stolen from me. I mean, it's one thing to not want to continue with a
contract. That's fine. But to take someone's work, and use it without paying
them for it -- and then to go into the very newsgroup where you found that
person and ask for help in completing the stolen database? That would be
funny if it weren't so sad.
So, why did I take so much time to write all of this? Well, first, because
you pissed me off with your lies here. But I shouldn't be surprised. Lies
are your game, aren't they, Ron? But, second, because I care about the
people in this newsgroup, and I see the way you are attempting to delude
them into believe that you're an innocent person who's being picked on. I
don't believe you really believe you're being picked on. I believe you know
that the criticisms are valid, but your lying nature has to try to make it
seem otherwise. You're a sad, sad individual, Steve.
David C. Holley
another. Fraud because it would be defrauding the original authors of
any royalties that might be due. I personally have not problem helping
someone out in developing code OR even if they use some code that I
wrote as-is in a project that they later sale. I have no problem with
the later since I didn't put together the full project. However, if
someone is taking the code written by others packaging it, not giving
credit for it, and selling it for much, much more than cost - that I
have a problem with. If someone were to do all of that and put together
a CD that sold for $5 plus shipping and handling, I wouldn't be upset
because the person would n't be profiting from it. If the CD was selling
for $100, the person would be profiting from that and with that I would
have a problem.
Keith
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> Steve, Steve, Steve:
<snip very interesting story>
> So, why did I take so much time to write all of this? Well, first, because
> you pissed me off with your lies here. But I shouldn't be surprised. Lies
> are your game, aren't they, Ron? But, second, because I care about the
> people in this newsgroup, and I see the way you are attempting to delude
> them into believe that you're an innocent person who's being picked on. I
> don't believe you really believe you're being picked on. I believe you
> know that the criticisms are valid, but your lying nature has to try to
> make it seem otherwise. You're a sad, sad individual, Steve.
>
>
Hands up everyone that wants to do business with Steve after reading this.
I've followed this soap since it started and, weeks ago, one of my ignored
responses was to advise Steve to stop this before it went too far, which IMO
it now has, as I can see Steve's customer base stampeding to the exit. Does
it hurt to shoot yourself in the foot I wonder?
Mike MacSween
news:42afdd6b$1...@glkas0286.greenlnk.net...
> Hands up everyone that wants to do business with Steve after reading this.
> I've followed this soap since it started and, weeks ago, one of my ignored
> responses was to advise Steve to stop this before it went too far, which
> IMO it now has, as I can see Steve's customer base stampeding to the exit.
> Does it hurt to shoot yourself in the foot I wonder?
I agree. None of us can actually be sure about the ins and outs of your
dealings with Neil, Steve. We weren't there. But I'm afraid that the more
you rant on about all this then the worse you look Steve. If you really feel
you are being defamed then shut up here and take legal action for libel or
whatever. I'm pretty sure that the people who are accusing you of x,y and z
will shut up as soon as you do (shut up, that is).
You have posted helpfully, once to me thank you. But a lot of your stuff
borders on what we in the UK call 'being a bit of a chancer'. Whereas some
posters have sigs or email addresses that makes it possible to contact them,
yours is more like blatant advertising, especially combined with the 'if
you'd like more help with this contact me to ....' type comments.
If a poster gives a lot of help to somebody in the NG, and the correspondent
contacts them directly, off the newsgroup, to ask for more help, I've got no
problem atall with that. I'm sure it's happened even with many of the
longstanding members of this newsgroup. But a lot of your material crosses
the border into 'touting for work'. And the reason so many people are coming
down hard on you is because once that starts to happen the newsgroup will
degenerate into a mess of advertising, spam, people asking for quotes and so
on. I'm surprised you can't see that.
It would help if your website was a bit more convincing. Your 'Access/Excel
Tips' section is empty, and has been so for some time I think. I've
bookmarked the sites of many of the regulars here, because they contain
useful stuff. But not yours. It's got 'charlatan' written all over it, I'm
afraid to say. You have no specific IT qualifications. Yet you have a
qualifications section.
If you did actually have some Access/Excel tips in there it would make you
look more like a participant than a parasite. Sites like Tony Toews are full
of useful stuff, and of course if I wanted to get some paying help I could
use it to contact him. That's the difference. A difference you seem
determined to ignore.
That's the long version.
The short version is shut the hell up, and if you don't then you deserve
everything you get.
Mike
PC Datasheet
statement that I repackaged responses from CDMA. You retracted and
apologized for your previous fabrication now are you man enough to do it
again?
Steve
"Tim Marshall" <TIMMY!@PurplePandaChasers.Moertherium> wrote in message
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Larry Linson
> And English is your second language.
> Any other tips on becoming an MVP?
As with many of us, Tony's first language is VBA. <GRIN>
Larry Linson
> Yes, after his trial, it sounds as if he
> might need it, especially if he wants
> any more of the plastic surgery he
> so desperately needs....
Oh, no... he should have stopped a few operations ago... the last [one|few]
operations have made him grotesque. At some point in his "remake", he looked
a _lot_ better than he does now.
Tim Marshall
Nonsesne Larry!
<Voice of mad scientist from 1950's frenkenstein type monster movie>
It's... It's.... BEEE-OOOHHH-TEE-FULL!!!!
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