Sovereign will was given to man by God to choose, each man
individually, to whom he will belong. They all got either the original
version from God, the copycat version from God, as planned over 6000
years ago.
The deception would be deceived if that were buried in sediments from
the second death--the death of the Satan worshippers over us through
their corporations, by treating corporations properly, which is a lie.
We still need a bill taking back the rights from corporations to the
littlest guy or gal so that our "free press" wouldn't be owned by six
corporations controlled by the Illuminati.
I'll eat a little of the power of his one-third-of-the-angels-sized
force of demons. So, make room for Satan.
--
R. Jeff
--
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technical groups. Enforcement of rules is deliberately minimal but
Borland reserves the right to cancel posts at any time, for any
reason, without notice.
Jeff, why do you even bother posting here? As far as I can tell NO ONE HERE
CARES!
Aaargh!
Tom.
> I can describe the mechanism used to create the illusion in the
> bottomless pit and briefly surface to devour the hard of heart who
> wouldn't accept God.
ummmm, go ahead.
> Sovereign will was given to man by God to choose, each man
> individually, to whom he will belong. They all got either the original
> version from God, the copycat version from God, as planned over 6000
> years ago.
or not.
> The deception would be deceived if that were buried in sediments from
> the second death--the death of the Satan worshippers over us through
> their corporations, by treating corporations properly, which is a lie.
ummmm, huh?
> We still need a bill taking back the rights from corporations to the
> littlest guy or gal so that our "free press" wouldn't be owned by six
> corporations controlled by the Illuminati.
I don't think they are the illuminati
> I'll eat a little of the power of his one-third-of-the-angels-sized
> force of demons.
might makes right?
> So, make room for Satan.
a new tv series?????
> <SNIPPED A LOT OF BS>
>
> Jeff, why do you even bother posting here? As far as I can tell NO
> ONE HERE CARES!
>
> Aaargh!
Actually, that piece of text was generated by a small program in
Python, using as input some of Jeff's postings.
http://www.strout.net/python/shaney.py
The text is quite meaningless. However, nobody noticed the difference
from the real Jeff. :-)
--
"Thanks God the French exist." -- Woody Allen, Hollywood Ending
> Actually, that piece of text was generated by a small program in
> Python, using as input some of Jeff's postings.
>
> http://www.strout.net/python/shaney.py
>
> The text is quite meaningless. However, nobody noticed the difference
> from the real Jeff. :-)
Yuck! And I thought that R. Jeff stood for "Real Jeff" :-)
--
Igor
I cannot describe the mechanism used to divorce Jeff's brain from sanity.
T
> > The text is quite meaningless. However, nobody noticed the
> > difference from the real Jeff. :-)
>
> Yuck! And I thought that R. Jeff stood for "Real Jeff" :-)
Actually it stands for /Robot/ Jeff -- as in Asimov's books :-)
--
"Thanks God the French exist." -- Woody Allen, Hollywood Ending
--
Reverend??? :-)
thoo what's weirder..... that we couldn't tell it was generated or that someone
is collecting some of Jeff's more... err... "thought provoking" statements?
> thoo what's weirder..... that we couldn't tell it was generated
There are two variants: the program passes the Turing test, or Jeff
does not. :-)
> or that someone is collecting some of Jeff's more... err... "thought
> provoking" statements?
No, I just used google groups and searched:
"god group:borland.* author:jeff"
"satan group:borland.* author:jeff"
"illuminati group:borland.* author:jeff"
in order to get some good statements and I pasted them into the input
file. :-)
--
"Thanks God the French exist." -- Woody Allen, Hollywood Ending
--
>
> "Igor Ivanov" <unknown@address> wrote in message
> news:41fe71f4$1...@newsgroups.borland.com...
> > Bogdan wrote:
> >
> > > Actually, that piece of text was generated by a small program in
> > > Python, using as input some of Jeff's postings.
> > >
> > > http://www.strout.net/python/shaney.py
> > >
> > > The text is quite meaningless. However, nobody noticed the
> > > difference from the real Jeff. :-)
> >
> > Yuck! And I thought that R. Jeff stood for "Real Jeff" :-)
>
> Reverend??? :-)
>
Hm... If I saw St. Jeff my first choice would be Satanic Jeff rather
than Saint :-)
--
Igor
> Stephan Laska wrote:
>
>
>>thoo what's weirder..... that we couldn't tell it was generated
>
>
> There are two variants: the program passes the Turing test, or Jeff
> does not. :-)
Obviously the latter...
Ken
Ummm, great. Just what we needed, another Jeff-bot.
:^\
--
Bruce
In the selfsame day have I been twenty years have I given you
to preserve you a posterity in the holy garments of Aaron the
coat, and the woman, What is this that God did send me good
speed this day, The Angel which redeemed me from bearing: I
pray thee, that I might have sent me before you to destroy
you, when I came from the face of the ephod. And Aaron shall
bear thee a place by me, and make all that Laban doeth unto
thee. Then Jacob went on dry land appear: and it be stolen
from him, Lift up now thine eyes, both we and our land? buy
us a little water of thy nostrils the breath of life, of all
that was on the sixth day. Thus the LORD God commanded the
foremost, saying, When Pharaoh shall not hearken unto thy brother's
blood from thy kindred, and which is in the way, and the Egyptians
before their faces one to another; and other five curtains
by themselves, and six curtains by themselves, and for thy
life; look not behind thee, neither stay thou in all that went
in unto the LORD, by the life of Amram were an hundred forty
and seven years: and he called their name Adam, in the tent
door in the day when I came from Gilead with their enchantments
to bring for his theft. If the priest of Midian: and he was
Rebekah's son: and he died. And Lamech lived an hundred and
thirty and seven years. The sons of Rachel Jacob's wife; Joseph,
and they shall be thirty cubits, and the rod of God made he
a woman, and between thy seed as the garden thou mayest bring
in the field at the door of blue, and purple, and scarlet:
with cherubims made he a woman, that they were sore, that two
of all the waters under the hand of the bread, which she spake
to the commandment of Moses, for the two corners. And there
shall no blood be shed: for in Isaac shall thy wages be? And
Laban went to him to his father said unto him, The LORD is
greater than all his daughters rose up to comfort him; but
he that stealeth a man, and full of days: and his wife, which
she bare him a ram without blemish before the LORD.
Amen!
> No, I just used google groups and searched:
>
> "god group:borland.* author:jeff"
> "satan group:borland.* author:jeff"
> "illuminati group:borland.* author:jeff"
>
> in order to get some good statements and I pasted them into the input
> file. :-)
It would be interesting to feed the output back into the prog and see
the result. Can you do that?
--
Igor
>Actually, that piece of text was generated by a small program
> in Python, using as input some of Jeff's postings.
>
>http://www.strout.net/python/shaney.py
>
>The text is quite meaningless. However, nobody noticed the
> difference from the real Jeff. :-)
Oh golly. How brilliant.
> > in order to get some good statements and I pasted them into the
> > input file. :-)
>
> It would be interesting to feed the output back into the prog and see
> the result. Can you do that?
Yes, but one post is too little input data.
The algoritm matches word clusters in order to form sentences (the last
word in one cluster must be first in the next) and in order to do this
it needs a bigger database.
--
"Thanks God the French exist." -- Woody Allen, Hollywood Ending
--
> Actually, that piece of text was generated by a small program in
> Python, using as input some of Jeff's postings.
>
> http://www.strout.net/python/shaney.py
>
> The text is quite meaningless. However, nobody noticed the difference
> from the real Jeff. :-)
Woohoo!
--
Rudy Velthuis http://rvelthuis.bei.t-online.de
"Everywhere I go I'm asked if I think the university stifles writers.
My opinion is that they don't stifle enough of them."
- Flannery O'Connor (1925-1964)
> I cannot describe the mechanism used to divorce Jeff's brain from sanity.
There's no evidence that they were ever acquainted.
--
bpo gallery at http://www4.tpgi.com.au/users/mvw1/bpo
<snip>
Who are you?
--
Jeff
"I am Jeff. I will brainwash you." --Jeff, Kungphewcius Master
> <SNIPPED A LOT OF BS>
>
> Jeff, why do you even bother posting here? As far as I can tell NO ONE HERE
> CARES!
I already know that. That's why I don't talk about God unless someone
else already brought Him up--and even then somewhat reluctantly.
> Aaargh!
You have a low threshold for pain. The God-attackers are worse. Do you
see me crying?
Cry baby!
--
Jeff
"I am Jeff. I will brainwash you." --Jeff, Kungphewcius Master
--
> Actually, that piece of text was generated by a small program in
> Python, using as input some of Jeff's postings.
What is the purpose of the program?
> The text is quite meaningless. However, nobody noticed the difference
> from the real Jeff. :-)
Why are you insulting everyone's discernment?
--
Jeff
"I am Jeff. I will brainwash you." --Jeff, Kungphewcius Master
--
> Ummm, great. Just what we needed, another Jeff-bot.
And yet when I'm gone, there are those who try real hard summon me up.
And they don't even bother to use a magic circle or my true name.
--
Jeff
"I am Jeff. I will brainwash you." --Jeff, Kungphewcius Master
--
Now run it on a theosophy web site. Or better, run it on the Earth Charter.
--
Jeff
"I am Jeff. I will brainwash you." --Jeff, Kungphewcius Master
--
>>I can describe the mechanism used to create the illusion in the
>>bottomless pit and briefly surface to devour the hard of heart who
>>wouldn't accept God.
> ummmm, go ahead.
Why do you encourage him? I would beg to differ with Robojeff. Satan is
not an illusion. He's an illusion-*ist*.
>>Sovereign will was given to man by God to choose, each man
>>individually, to whom he will belong.
Ok.
>>They all got either the original
>>version from God, the copycat version from God, as planned over 6000
>>years ago.
God hasn't dispensed a copycat version of sovereign will. Satan has.
> or not.
Not?
Robojeff may have a point here. I can understand why it might seem,
"not." We've ingested too much fluoride and mercury. Our diets are too
low in omega 3 fats and cholesterol. Men have been made to lack
masculinity. If we had enough cholesterol, we wouldn't need Viagra, we
wouldn't be losing America to third world status, and the Illuminati
wouldn't be stealing our minerals, our water, and our food.
And if that weren't enough, they use EMF weapons to make whole cities
submissive. They used it in Iraq. What makes you think they aren't using
it in the USA?
>>The deception would be deceived if that were buried in sediments from
>>the second death--
No, it's first deaths that lay in sediments globally.
Robojeff, if you don't mind my asking, what is your thesis? And what are
your qualifications? What are you getting at? Do you have some
particular overarching concern?
>>the death of the Satan worshippers over us through
>>their corporations, by treating corporations properly, which is a lie.
> ummmm, huh?
I have no idea. Could it have something to do with the erection of
corporations as gods over us by generational satanists?
>>We still need a bill taking back the rights from corporations to the
>>littlest guy or gal so that our "free press" wouldn't be owned by six
>>corporations controlled by the Illuminati.
> I don't think they are the illuminati
They try to remain nameless. It's how they avoid us having handles on
them. You need a handle though if you are going to resist them, don't
you? So pick one. Might as well pick the handle of one of the people
they've controlled in the past that isn't otherwise being used any more.
>>I'll eat a little of the power of his one-third-of-the-angels-sized
>>force of demons.
> might makes right?
Maybe Robojeff thinks it's alright to be wrong.
>>So, make room for Satan.
> a new tv series?????
Not fiction. From where I stand, it's what's happening.
--
Jeff
"I am Jeff. I will brainwash you." --Jeff, Kungphewcius Master
--
>>I can describe the mechanism used to create the illusion in the
>>bottomless pit and briefly surface to devour the hard of heart who
>>wouldn't accept God.
> I cannot describe the mechanism used to divorce Jeff's brain from sanity.
I can.
Robojeff never had the possibility of being sane. No machine can know
the difference between what is moral and what is immoral.
--
Jeff
"I am Jeff. I will brainwash you." --Jeff, Kungphewcius Master
--
> Reverend??? :-)
I wonder where the word 'reverend' comes from. Anyway, few going by that
title revere God very much. Do you suppose they revere Satan?
> thoo what's weirder..... that we couldn't tell it was generated or that someone
> is collecting some of Jeff's more... err... "thought provoking" statements?
They could qualify as sentences but not as statements. Statements must
have meaning. As a matter of fact, statements are where it's at, because
statements don't even have to qualify as sentences to qualify as having
meaning. Now, isn't that interesting?
--
Jeff
"I am Jeff. I will brainwash you." --Jeff, Kungphewcius Master
--
> Yuck! And I thought that R. Jeff stood for "Real Jeff" :-)
Try, 'Robojeff.'
--
Jeff
"I am Jeff. I will brainwash you." --Jeff, Kungphewcius Master
--
>>>The text is quite meaningless. However, nobody noticed the
>>>difference from the real Jeff. :-)
>>Yuck! And I thought that R. Jeff stood for "Real Jeff" :-)
> Actually it stands for /Robot/ Jeff -- as in Asimov's books :-)
That's not very fluid on the tongue though, is it. A polished block
buster film like Robocop could have served as better inspiration.
--
Jeff
"I am Jeff. I will brainwash you." --Jeff, Kungphewcius Master
--
> Yes, but one post is too little input data.
The Earth Charter is big enough.
--
Jeff
"I am Jeff. I will brainwash you." --Jeff, Kungphewcius Master
--
>> There are two variants: the program passes the Turing test, or Jeff
>> does not. :-)
> Obviously the latter...
Oh look!
We have a volunteer for the poor discernment award Tom has been giving out.
--
Jeff
"I am Jeff. I will brainwash you." --Jeff, Kungphewcius Master
--
> It would be interesting to feed the output back into the prog and see
> the result. Can you do that?
I'd like to see it for the theosophical Earth Charter.
--
Jeff
"I am Jeff. I will brainwash you." --Jeff, Kungphewcius Master
--
> Bogdan wrote:
>
> > Yes, but one post is too little input data.
>
> The Earth Charter is big enough.
Oh, thx Bogdan. As I suspected it works even on little data.
--
Igor
> > Actually, that piece of text was generated by a small program in
> > Python, using as input some of Jeff's postings.
>
> What is the purpose of the program?
>
To generate random meaningless sentences using the vocabulary and
grammatical constructions from a input file.
> > The text is quite meaningless. However, nobody noticed the
> > difference from the real Jeff. :-)
>
> Why are you insulting everyone's discernment?
I am insulting nobody.
Nobody noticed and said 'hey, this can't be real Jeff". The three
people that replied actually thought it was you.
--
"Thanks God the French exist." -- Woody Allen, Hollywood Ending
--
> Stephan Laska wrote:
>
> > Reverend??? :-)
>
> I wonder where the word 'reverend' comes from.
from Latin vereri 'to respect', which in turn is from the
Proto-Indo-European root *wer, the same which gave "guard", "aware",
"award", "reward", "lord", etc
http://www.bartleby.com/61/roots/IE572.html
--
"Thanks God the French exist." -- Woody Allen, Hollywood Ending
--
>>I wonder where the word 'reverend' comes from. Anyway, few going by that
>> title revere God very much. Do you suppose they revere Satan?
> I wouldn't know
Mee neeber. Puwaps id doodna madda vebby mubb.
> significance is where you find it.
I'm glad you agree. I find it in God.
I'll bet you think you wouldn't have been fooled because you have more
discernment than they do. Was it fun for you to test their poor
discernment against yours?
--
Jeff
"I am Jeff. I will brainwash you." --Jeff, Kungphewcius Master
--
I wouldn't know
> > thoo what's weirder..... that we couldn't tell it was generated or that
someone
> > is collecting some of Jeff's more... err... "thought provoking" statements?
>
> They could qualify as sentences but not as statements. Statements must
> have meaning. As a matter of fact, statements are where it's at, because
> statements don't even have to qualify as sentences to qualify as having
> meaning. Now, isn't that interesting?
significance is where you find it.
--
> from Latin vereri 'to respect', which in turn is from the
> Proto-Indo-European root *wer, the same which gave "guard", "aware",
> "award", "reward", "lord", etc
Saym dyfferens: Respect/revere Satan. Both jess az bad.
--
Jeff
"I am Jeff. I will brainwash you." --Jeff, Kungphewcius Master
--
>
> > It would be interesting to feed the output back into the prog and
> > see the result. Can you do that?
>
> I'd like to see it for the theosophical Earth Charter.
<<
We must join together to bring forth a sustainable way of life and
material sufficiency in a finite world.
Prevent pollution of any part of the arts and humanities as well as our
local communities. Advance the study of ecological and social
environment supportive of human activities.
Eliminate corruption in all its forms, such as water, soil, forest
products, and marine life in ways that do not exceed rates of
regeneration and that protect the rights of indigenous peoples and
within and among nations.
Affirm gender equality and equity as prerequisites to sustainable
development plans and regulations that make environmental conservation
and rehabilitation integral to all development initiatives.
>>
Happy with the result ?
--
"Thanks God the French exist." -- Woody Allen, Hollywood Ending
--
> Stephan Laska wrote:
> >>I can describe the mechanism used to create the illusion in the
> >>bottomless pit and briefly surface to devour the hard of heart who
> >>wouldn't accept God.
>
> > ummmm, go ahead.
>
> Why do you encourage him? I would beg to differ with Robojeff.
cause I thought it wuz u, and wuz hoping further communication would
bring forth somehting intelligible.
> Satan is not an illusion. He's an illusion-*ist*.
agreed
> >>Sovereign will was given to man by God to choose, each man
> >>individually, to whom he will belong.
>
> Ok.
>
> >>They all got either the original
> >>version from God, the copycat version from God, as planned over 6000
> >>years ago.
>
> God hasn't dispensed a copycat version of sovereign will. Satan has.
>
> > or not.
>
> Not?
not.
> Robojeff may have a point here. I can understand why it might seem,
> "not." We've ingested too much fluoride and mercury. Our diets are too
> low in omega 3 fats and cholesterol. Men have been made to lack
> masculinity. If we had enough cholesterol, we wouldn't need Viagra, we
> wouldn't be losing America to third world status, and the Illuminati
> wouldn't be stealing our minerals, our water, and our food.
> And if that weren't enough, they use EMF weapons to make whole cities
> submissive. They used it in Iraq. What makes you think they aren't using
> it in the USA?
does that mean the earth's magnetism is a plot to make us submissive?
> >>The deception would be deceived if that were buried in sediments from
> >>the second death--
>
> No, it's first deaths that lay in sediments globally.
>
> Robojeff, if you don't mind my asking, what is your thesis? And what are
> your qualifications? What are you getting at? Do you have some
> particular overarching concern?
>
> >>the death of the Satan worshippers over us through
> >>their corporations, by treating corporations properly, which is a lie.
>
> > ummmm, huh?
>
> I have no idea. Could it have something to do with the erection of
> corporations as gods over us by generational satanists?
who knows?
> >>We still need a bill taking back the rights from corporations to the
> >>littlest guy or gal so that our "free press" wouldn't be owned by six
> >>corporations controlled by the Illuminati.
>
> > I don't think they are the illuminati
>
> They try to remain nameless. It's how they avoid us having handles on
> them. You need a handle though if you are going to resist them, don't
> you? So pick one. Might as well pick the handle of one of the people
> they've controlled in the past that isn't otherwise being used any more.
> >>I'll eat a little of the power of his one-third-of-the-angels-sized
> >>force of demons.
>
> > might makes right?
>
> Maybe Robojeff thinks it's alright to be wrong.
I am not going to wiat for robojeffs reply.
> >>So, make room for Satan.
>
> > a new tv series?????
>
> Not fiction. From where I stand, it's what's happening.
I would suggest moving then.
>>Why do you encourage him? I would beg to differ with Robojeff.
> cause I thought it wuz u, and wuz hoping further communication would
> bring forth somehting intelligible.
Yew've god two be kitten! Wing half Aye Eva maid sew ladle cents? I
Mecca a laud moor aye thank.
>>Satan is not an illusion. He's an illusion-*ist*.
> agreed
Wow. Now we're getting somewhere. :-)
>>God hasn't dispensed a copycat version of sovereign will. Satan has.
>>>or not.
>>Not?
> not.
Are you saying you don't have sovereign will?
> does that mean the earth's magnetism is a plot to make us submissive?
A plot of man, Satan, or a plot of God?
I hadna yet thot bout it.
>>I have no idea. Could it have something to do with the erection of
>>corporations as gods over us by generational satanists?
> who knows?
I do. :-)
>>Maybe Robojeff thinks it's alright to be wrong.
> I am not going to wiat for robojeffs reply.
I wouldn't either. :-)
>>>>So, make room for Satan.
>>>a new tv series?????
>>Not fiction. From where I stand, it's what's happening.
> I would suggest moving then.
I've already got an appointment with the Movers. :-)
--
Jeff
"I am Jeff. I will brainwash you." --Jeff, Kungphewcius Master
--
summer der stoof ive red din seam ta make sense till 2nd r 3rd post.
wanna give ya bennie er da doubt
> >>Satan is not an illusion. He's an illusion-*ist*.
>
> > agreed
>
> Wow. Now we're getting somewhere. :-)
oh boy! road trip! <g>
> >>God hasn't dispensed a copycat version of sovereign will. Satan has.
>
> >>>or not.
>
> >>Not?
>
> > not.
>
> Are you saying you don't have sovereign will?
der stuff from roboJ din make sense
> > does that mean the earth's magnetism is a plot to make us submissive?
>
> A plot of man, Satan, or a plot of God?
>
> I hadna yet thot bout it.
>
> >>I have no idea. Could it have something to do with the erection of
> >>corporations as gods over us by generational satanists?
>
> > who knows?
>
> I do. :-)
good! ;-)
> >>Maybe Robojeff thinks it's alright to be wrong.
>
> > I am not going to wiat for robojeffs reply.
>
> I wouldn't either. :-)
>
> >>>>So, make room for Satan.
>
> >>>a new tv series?????
>
> >>Not fiction. From where I stand, it's what's happening.
>
> > I would suggest moving then.
>
> I've already got an appointment with the Movers. :-)
moving sale?
> Happy with the result ?
Hmm. Interesting.
Yes. Thank you. That'll do.
I guess the Earth Charter sounds more down to Earth when trancendentally
coalesced than Godly things do because Satan is the god of the Earth and
God is the god of the heavens.
--
Jeff
"I am Jeff. I will brainwash you." --Jeff, Kungphewcius Master
--
> summer der stoof ive red din seam ta make sense till 2nd r 3rd post.
> wanna give ya bennie er da doubt
Whoops! That's because I used to think you didn't *want* to understand.
I was just trying to help you out.
>>Wow. Now we're getting somewhere. :-)
> oh boy! road trip! <g>
I'm giddy too!
> der stuff from roboJ din make sense
Yea. Not like the real McCoy. Just a decoy.
> moving sale?
I won't need money where I'll be going. It's a give away.
--
Jeff
"I am Jeff. I will brainwash you." --Jeff, Kungphewcius Master
--