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Finn Tolderlund

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Jun 28, 2006, 12:05:49 PM6/28/06
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Does anyone know how to install Delphi 2006 in Windows Vista?
The installer actively refuses to let me install it, which is so stupid that
I have no word to describe it.
Did anyone try it and succeed?
I tried asking in b.p.install.delphi but the group seems to be dead as a
doornail.
--
Finn Tolderlund
http://www.tolderlund.eu/delphi/

Daniel Rail

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Jun 28, 2006, 12:18:14 PM6/28/06
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"Finn Tolderlund" <n...@spam.dk> wrote in message
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> Does anyone know how to install Delphi 2006 in Windows Vista?
> The installer actively refuses to let me install it, which is so stupid
> that I have no word to describe it.
> Did anyone try it and succeed?

I was able to. I was logged on as Administrator and had to answer all of
the security questions that Vista was throwing at me. Other than that, I
didn't have a problem on the install. And, that was in a virtual
environment, and that was a trial version of BDS2006.

Daniel Rail
Senior Software Developer
ACCRA Solutions Inc.(www.accra.ca)


Liz

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Jun 28, 2006, 12:23:07 PM6/28/06
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Finn Tolderlund wrote:

> Does anyone know how to install Delphi 2006 in Windows Vista?
> The installer actively refuses to let me install it, which is so
> stupid that I have no word to describe it. Did anyone try it and
> succeed? I tried asking in b.p.install.delphi but the group seems to
> be dead as a doornail.

the price of playing with beta OS's which are designed round .net2 and
are very buggy.

--
Liz the Brit
Delphi things I have released: http://www.xcalibur.co.uk/DelphiThings

Ian Boyd

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Jun 28, 2006, 12:35:09 PM6/28/06
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> which is so stupid that I have no word to describe it.

http://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=redonkulous

?


Edwin Walker

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Jun 28, 2006, 12:48:27 PM6/28/06
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Daniel,

Which 'virtual environment' are you using? I have tried VMWare but have
not been any to load Vista Beta 2.

Edwin


Finn Tolderlund

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Jun 28, 2006, 12:47:10 PM6/28/06
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"Ian Boyd" <ian.borla...@avatopia.com> skrev i en meddelelse
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>> which is so stupid that I have no word to describe it.
>
> http://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=redonkulous
> ?

That's it, that is exactly the right word!
:-)

Liz

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Jun 28, 2006, 1:52:06 PM6/28/06
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Edwin Walker wrote:

> Which 'virtual environment' are you using? I have tried VMWare but
> have not been any to load Vista Beta 2.

Weird, I have in both player and workstation

what problems have you had?

Finn Tolderlund

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Jun 28, 2006, 2:02:11 PM6/28/06
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"Liz" <liz_want...@xcalibur.nospam.co.uk> skrev i en meddelelse
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> Finn Tolderlund wrote:
>
>> Does anyone know how to install Delphi 2006 in Windows Vista?
>> The installer actively refuses to let me install it, which is so
>> stupid that I have no word to describe it. Did anyone try it and
>> succeed? I tried asking in b.p.install.delphi but the group seems to
>> be dead as a doornail.
>
> the price of playing with beta OS's which are designed round .net2 and
> are very buggy.

I haven't used Vista that much, but the beta2 seems quite stable.
And it's not Windows Vista that is giving me trouble, it's the Delphi 2006
installer that won't get past the stupid prerequisite check.

Liz

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Jun 28, 2006, 2:14:32 PM6/28/06
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Finn Tolderlund wrote:

> I haven't used Vista that much, but the beta2 seems quite stable.
> And it's not Windows Vista that is giving me trouble, it's the Delphi
> 2006 installer that won't get past the stupid prerequisite check.

Did you do the pre-req's by hand see if that bypasses it?

Bruno Fierens [tmssoftware.com]

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Jun 28, 2006, 3:20:00 PM6/28/06
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We also had troubles,
what helped was to make sure to uninstall .NET 1.1 framework first
and then let BDS 2006 install it.

--
Kind regards,
Bruno Fierens
TMS software
Productivity components for Windows, .NET, IntraWeb, Linux development
http://www.tmssoftware.com


Edwin Walker

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Jun 28, 2006, 4:02:01 PM6/28/06
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I assume that you are using VMWare. I am using 5.5. I created a 10 G hard
drive and booted from a CD-ROM. About 10-15 mins in, the setup program
aborts.

Did you follow any instructions, could you share them with me. Is it Beta
2? Do you see the 'pretty' grahics, I heard that VMWare Graphic card does
not support the fancy graphics? Is that true.

Thanks

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Peter Herijgers

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Jun 28, 2006, 4:06:47 PM6/28/06
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I just installed all the software by hand.
After installing the prerequisted software the installer will continue.

You will get a warning that .Net 1.1 is not 'safe' or something like that
but just go on.

The only thing I am troubling with is the files in the Program Files.
It seems to me that you can't modify the files in this folder, so you can't
use any of the demo files.
Just copy the files to another folder and here you go.
But I think this is due to the fact that I never tried Vista before.

If you need more info on how to install BDS2006 please let me know.


Liz

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Jun 28, 2006, 4:40:48 PM6/28/06
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Edwin Walker wrote:

> I assume that you are using VMWare. I am using 5.5. I created a 10
> G hard drive and booted from a CD-ROM. About 10-15 mins in, the
> setup program aborts.

Sounds about what I did.

new vm, went through, selected vista as the guest, created fixed size
disk..

If you're having problems head to www.vmware.com/community sad acts
like me seem to live there, and someone will probably recognise the
exact spot yours died and and go "Hey did you do this" ..

> Did you follow any instructions, could you share them with me. Is it
> Beta 2? Do you see the 'pretty' grahics, I heard that VMWare Graphic
> card does not support the fancy graphics? Is that true.

Nope, mine looks fine.. Id say it has fancy graphics (to the point I
wish it didnt!)

Finn Tolderlund

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Jun 28, 2006, 4:47:05 PM6/28/06
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"Peter Herijgers" <uni...@xs4all.nl> skrev i en meddelelse
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>I just installed all the software by hand.

Can you elaborate on that please?
Exactly what did you install?

> After installing the prerequisted software the installer will continue.
> You will get a warning that .Net 1.1 is not 'safe' or something like that
> but just go on.

I got that warning too. Clicking cancel doesn't work and when I accepted it
seemed to install the .net 11 framework and the Delphi 2006 installer
stopped anyway.

> The only thing I am troubling with is the files in the Program Files.
> It seems to me that you can't modify the files in this folder, so you
> can't use any of the demo files.
> Just copy the files to another folder and here you go.
> But I think this is due to the fact that I never tried Vista before.
>
> If you need more info on how to install BDS2006 please let me know.

Thanks, I might just hold you to that :-)

Finn Tolderlund

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Jun 28, 2006, 4:43:02 PM6/28/06
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"Bruno Fierens [tmssoftware.com]" <_nos...@tmssoftware.com> skrev i en
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> We also had troubles,
> what helped was to make sure to uninstall .NET 1.1 framework first
> and then let BDS 2006 install it.

That sounds promising, but for the life of me I can't find where to
uninstall .net 1.1 framework.
I can't find it in control panel, uninstall programs, or anywhere else.
The closet thing I can find is the folders as you can see in this image:
http://www.tolderlund.eu/vistadotnet.bmp
But that doesn't tell me where to uninstall it.
Can you point me in the right direction?
Thanks.

Edwin Walker

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Jun 28, 2006, 4:56:29 PM6/28/06
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Sounds like you have a newer version of VMWare then I do. I do not have
vista as an option, just longhorn.

Maybe I will upgrade later this week.

And I have been on vmware community site and their newsgroups. It seems
like for some it works others it does not

Thanks
Edwin

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Peter Herijgers

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Jun 28, 2006, 5:34:29 PM6/28/06
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This is what I did:

When I first installed the CD of BDS2006 the installer was checking for the
prerequisted software.
After some errors I ended the installation.
Just use the windows explorer for the cd.
Install all of the programs below (in this order). Just ignore all warnings,
BDS2006 is very stable on my computer.

folder dotnetRedist -> dotnetfx.exe
folder dotnetSDK -> setup.exe
folder dotnetJSharp -> vjredist.exe
folder JRE -> j2re-1_4_2_06-windows-i586-p.exe
folder MSXML -> msxml.msi

Please restart the computer.

folder Install -> setup.exe <--- BDS2006 installation

You don't have to install dotnet 2.0 because it's part of Vista.
Maybe not everything is installed using the procedure as above but it works
fine for me.

Instead of "folder Install -> setup.exe <--- BDS2006 installation" you can
run the Install.exe in the root of the cd.
It should work because everthing you need is already installed.
If it doesn't work please use the "folder Install -> setup.exe <--- BDS2006
installation"

Don't forget to install update1, update2 and all its hotfixes for BDS2006

Good luke


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Finn Tolderlund

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Jun 28, 2006, 5:40:57 PM6/28/06
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Thank you very much for these detailed instructions.
I will try it tomorrow. First I need to go to sleep and then go to work :-)
Regards.

"Peter Herijgers" <uni...@xs4all.nl> skrev i en meddelelse

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> This is what I did:

> folder dotnetRedist -> dotnetfx.exe
> folder dotnetSDK -> setup.exe
> folder dotnetJSharp -> vjredist.exe
> folder JRE -> j2re-1_4_2_06-windows-i586-p.exe
> folder MSXML -> msxml.msi
> Please restart the computer.
> folder Install -> setup.exe <--- BDS2006 installation
>

roman modic

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Jun 28, 2006, 8:08:11 PM6/28/06
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Hello!

"Edwin Walker" <Edwin...@nowhere.com> wrote in message news:44a2e03a$1...@newsgroups.borland.com...


>I assume that you are using VMWare. I am using 5.5. I created a 10 G hard drive and booted from a CD-ROM. About 10-15 mins in,
>the setup program

IMHO you need at least 12 GB of disk space for setup, final size is about 7 GB.

Roman


I.P. Nichols

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Jun 29, 2006, 8:50:55 AM6/29/06
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"Finn Tolderlund" wrote:
> Does anyone know how to install Delphi 2006 in Windows Vista?
> The installer actively refuses to let me install it, which is so stupid
> that I have no word to describe it.
> Did anyone try it and succeed?
> I tried asking in b.p.install.delphi but the group seems to be dead as a
> doornail.

The word to describe it is "Security"...

For years folks have bitched and moaned that Microsoft's operating systems
have little or no security so now that Vista begins to correct that problem
even Administrators shouldn't be surprised that they need to learn a few new
tricks. ;-)

For the last few months I have been testing several "home-brewed" Delphi
Win32 apps on Vista as each new build is released. Except for 16 bit (not
supported on Vista) Delphi apps I have had no major problems getting apps
to install.

I haven't tried to install Delphi 2006 but wouldn't be surprised if Vista
balked over installing .NET 1.1 and further down in this thread Peter
Herijgers details a procedure he used to get the prerequisites installed.

To install most apps:
---------------------------
Right click on the install.exe choose the compatability tab and check the
box "run in XP mode" then right click again and select "run as
adminastrator".

When the install has successfully completed go the the folder where the app
resides and right click and select the properties compatability tab to run
in XP mode and select the security tab and select the Users profile and
press edit and check the "allow full control" box.

Here are a couple of tools that people testing Delphi apps on Vista may find
useful.
------------------------------------------
http://www.microsoft.com/downloads/details.aspx?FamilyID=bd02c19c-1250-433c-8c1b-2619bd93b3a2&DisplayLang=en
Application Verifier is a runtime verification tool for unmanaged code that
assists in finding subtle programming errors that can be difficult to
identify with normal application testing. Run the Application Verifier tests
on your code to identify issues within heaps, handles, and locks

http://www.microsoft.com/downloads/details.aspx?familyid=DF59B474-C0B7-4422-8C70-B0D9D3D2F575&displaylang=en
The Standard User Analyzer helps developers and IT professionals diagnose
issues that would prevent a program from running properly without
administrator privileges. On Windows Vista, even administrators run most
programs with standard user privileges by default, so it is important to
ensure that your application does not have administrator access as a
dependency.


Edwin Walker

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Jun 29, 2006, 1:42:12 AM6/29/06
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Ok, I am not using VMWare 5.5 but 5.0. Maybe I should upgrade.

Thanks

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Liz

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Jun 29, 2006, 1:59:59 AM6/29/06
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Edwin Walker wrote:

> Ok, I am not using VMWare 5.5 but 5.0. Maybe I should upgrade.

That might do it :)

Daniel Rail

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Jun 29, 2006, 2:41:37 PM6/29/06
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"Edwin Walker" <Edwin...@nowhere.com> wrote in message
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> Daniel,
>
> Which 'virtual environment' are you using? I have tried VMWare but have
> not been any to load Vista Beta 2.

Virtual PC 2004.

Daniel Rail


Finn Tolderlund

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Jun 29, 2006, 4:05:46 PM6/29/06
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"Peter Herijgers" <uni...@xs4all.nl> skrev i en meddelelse
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> Just use the windows explorer for the cd.
> Install all of the programs below (in this order). Just ignore all
> warnings, folder dotnetRedist -> dotnetfx.exe

> folder dotnetSDK -> setup.exe
> folder dotnetJSharp -> vjredist.exe
> folder JRE -> j2re-1_4_2_06-windows-i586-p.exe
> folder MSXML -> msxml.msi
> Please restart the computer.
> folder Install -> setup.exe <--- BDS2006 installation


This worked fine.
Thank you for your help.
Regards.

Now I'm trying to register the product.
It won't by itself and apparently the web register page
http://reg.borland.com doesn't work with Windows Vista??
Why, oh why, does it have to be so difficult?

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