Can't get QS to install

[xorge]

Help I can not get QS to install after download.

I get the QS.3815.dmg file to download - no problem

Then double click to mount the temporary drive and drag the QS app to
my Applications folder. When I run Quicksilver it it displays this
message: "Quicksilver was launched from a download location. Would you
like to copy Quicksilver to your applications folder?"

I choose for it to do this and it shows up in my menu bar but is
unresponsive - the only choice that works is "quit".

Running Quicksilver after that results in the same install message
with same results.

I'm running OSX version 10.4.11 on a G5 dual (Power PC)

Thanks
George

[Derek]

have you tried uninstalling/reinstalling it? I suggest you redownload
the dmg file (from Blacktree). You could also try downloading a mirror
at MajorGeeks:

http://mac.majorgeeks.com/download4682.html

just in case. to uninstall, just delete the following files:

/Applications/quicksilver.app
~/Library/Application Support/Quicksilver/
~/Library/Preferences/com.blacktree...
~/Library/Caches/Quicksilver

[xorge]

Yes - I've lost count of how many times I've uninstalled re-downloaded
and tried to install. I've always gotten the .dmg file from Blacktree.
Today I just tried the majorgeeks download with the same results.

I use to use Quicksilver all the time and it worked fine. At one point
(at least a year or more ago) there was an update so I downloaded that
but could never get it to install again. Unfortunately I deleted the
old version. I finally got tired of trying to install this app and
failing so I started using launchbar instead but the other day I heard
some folks on TWIT raving about Quicksilver during interview with the
original developer so I though maybe they had fixed the problem with
newer updates and tried again. I am still having the exact same
problem as always - very frustrating and this is the only thing I've
ever had a problem like this with.



George

[Howard Melman]

If you launched the app after dragging it to the Applications folder
it obviously shouldn't say it's being run from a download location.
Are these the exact messages being reported? Are you *sure* you're
running from the Applications folder and that you've copied and not
linked the application? Are there any error messages listed in
Console.app (you can search for "Quicksilver" to see just errors it
generates).

When Quicksilver first runs it creates the following files/folders:
~/Library/Application Support/Quicksilver/
~/Library/Preferences/com.blacktree.Quicksilver.plist
~/Library/Caches/Quicksilver/

Check that your user account (and not root) owns these and you
permissions to write these. You can check and change this if needed by
doing Get Info in the Finder and looking in the Ownership & Permission
section. After making sure the folder exists and you own it and have
permissions to write to it, restart Quicksilver. You can create the ~/
Library/Application Support/Quicksilver/ folder by hand if that helps.

I haven't run on PowerPC in a while, it's possible that latest builds
aren't universal although my copy of B54 3815 says it is Universal.
Does anyone else run it on PPC?

Howard

[xorge]

OK - I have tried just about every possible scenario for installing.

First I download the QS.3815 dmg file, double click it to open the
virtual drive that appears to reveal the file Quicksilver.app in the
Finder. I have tried running it directly from there and also I have
tried dragging it to my Applications folder and running from there. I
tried that same approach but AFTER first ejecting the virtual drive
and deleting the dmg file to make sure it installs from the
applications location. I am the only user of this system an I have
permissions to read write everything although the file ~/
LibraryPreferences/com.blacktree.Quicksilver.plist never shows up
under any of these install scenarios.

Here is a section of the console message indicating an error:

2008-08-07 13:06:28.950 Quicksilver[244] Installing Quicksilver at: /
Applications
2008-08-07 13:06:30.644 Quicksilver[244] Relaunch from path /
Applications/Quicksilver.app/Contents/MacOS/Quicksilver
2008-08-07 13:07:36.049 Quicksilver[253] Installing Quicksilver at: /
Applications
2008-08-07 13:07:36.059 Quicksilver[253] Relaunch from path /
Applications/Quicksilver.app/Contents/MacOS/Quicksilver
2008-08-07 13:07:36.060 Quicksilver[253] Exception raised during
posting of notification. Ignored. exception: launch path not
accessible
2008-08-07 13:07:45.601 Quicksilver[253] -[QSPreferencesController
loadWindow]: failed to load window nib file '/Applications/
Quicksilver.app/Contents/Resources/QSPreferences.nib'.

[xorge]

UPDATE

I have now gotten Quicksilver to install by forcing it to install into
my users/xorge/applications folder rather than the default root
applications folder where every other program I have ever install has
gone by default or choice. I do not know (nor understand) why
Quicksilver will only install in this folder but it does appear to
work properly from this location. I assume this is in case there are
multiple users sharing a system? but I run as administrator on this
system so it's a bit annoying to have one orphan program floating
about in an otherwise empty folder.

Every program I have installed is in this path ~/Applications/
Quicksilver.app
Quicksilver oh the other hand is the one and only application in this
path ~/Users/xorge/Applications/Quicksilver.app


Like I said it's running but any insight to the reason for this
behavior would be welcomed

Thanks,

George

[Howard Melman]

It should work from both
/Applications/Quicksilver.app
~/Applications/Quicksilver.app
and I haven't heard of it not working from either of the locations.

Your second paragraph is bit confusing, I assume they are typos
because of frustration.
Assuming your username is xorge, ~ is short for /Users/xorge so
~/Users/xorge/Applications/Quicksilver.app
seems quite redudant since it means
/Users/xorge/Users/xorge/Applications/Quicksilver.app

If it works in one location and not another that tells us a few things.
1. the app is not corrupt
2. it's probably permissions problems in the one location

The previously reported error message does suggest a permissions issue:

"Exception raised during posting of notification. Ignored.
exception: launch path not accessible"

I listed specific permissions to check. Since you wrote "I am the

only user of this system an I have permissions to read write

everything" I don't know if that refers to the everything I mentioned
or is a general statement. It is possible to be the only user of a
system and not have permissions for every thing.

Have you tried running repair permissions in Disk Utility?

Howard

[xorge]

Sorry for the confusion - it wasn't a typo just miscommunication - I
have always seen the tilde (~) used to indicated the top most or root
directory/folder which is how I was using it. My user name is indeed
"xorge" as you thought.

So here is my set up - looking at my system in the finder I see the
normal path to all my other apps:
Macintosh HD1/Applications/all other apps here (This is also the
folder where Quicksilver would install itself by default and fail to
work).

When looking at the console error message I came to the same
conclusion as you so I dragged the Quicksilver install app to the
other applications folder under "users/applications" instead of the
default it had chosen and it worked from that location.
That path is: Macintosh HD1/Users/xorge/applications/Quicksilver

I have always wondered why there was an empty applications folder
under my user name but I just assumed it was some Mac quirk since I
run as admin and everything I use runs fine as it is. Quicksilver is
now the only app in that folder. I have a multitude of programs
(ProTools, Reason, Peak, Photoshop. Aperture, Microsoft Office for
Mac) and ever last one has always installed in the same applications
folder along with all the Mac software. Actually Quicksilver DID try
to install here too and I have no idea why it wouldn't work from that
location. Perhaps Quicksilver by default tries to install for just one
user?

I won't pretend to understand this whole concept of "permissions" but
I pretty much run disk utility to repair permissions once a week and
had run it and rebooted after having a problem with the initial
Quicksilver install failure.

I have not yet tried moving it to the default applications folder to
see if it will run from there now that it is installed.

I have to assume that the problem is something with Quicksilver's
methodology since I have been happily installing and running programs
on this system for several years and never had a problem with anything
else. I have always used the same steps for installing programs as I
did with it.

At any rate, at least Quicksilver is up and working so I can now
compare it to Launchbar which I switched to back when the QS upgrade
first failed to install.

George

[mandaris]

I would like to second that I experienced the same weird install
process.

[Abhijit Das]

Thanks a lot for the guidance !!