Show and Tell: May 2003
Kitsune
people next door know we're still here. (and still not paying rent)
The last time we did this was almost a year ago (no, don't check in
google) So I think its time for a much needed update.
Just remember, if you do want this to go up on the acg site, please
e-mail to a...@tygger.net as well as posting to acg. You'll also need to
*keep* the STATS: header - some people cut it. (Hobbes correct me if
this isn't the case anymore)
So without further ado... here are the questions.
STATS:
Name:
Real name:
E-mail address:
Web page:
Other newsgroups you frequent:
Length of time on the 'net:
Length of time as a net.goth:
Place of residence:
But I'd rather live in:
APPEARANCE:
Chromosomal makeup:
Age:
Height:
Weight:
Hair for this week:
Natural hair colour:
Eyes:
Tattoos/Piercings/Scars/Other:
Preferred clothing:
Your favourite "non-Goth" clothes:
The daggiest thing I ever wore was:
LIFESTYLE:
Occupation:
But I'd really like to be a:
When I was ten I wanted to be:
Number of acg'ers with whom you've been "intimate" (snog & upwards):
Availability status:
Sexual preference:
Religion:
Pets:
Your worst habit:
Perky/mopey/neither:
I would describe my dancing style as:
Most of your money gets spent on:
Dietary classification:
Liver:
Hobbies
FAVOURITES:
Band:
Love song:
Dance-like-a-maniac song:
Pub:
Club:
Book/genre/author/poet:
TV show:
Actor/actress:
Movie:
Artist/artwork:
Animal:
Food:
Drink:
Texture:
Place to go:
Way to go:
MISCELLANY:
What got you into this whole "goth" thing anyhow?
What do you wear to bed?
Do you decapitate Jelly Babies and Teddy Bear biscuits before
progressing to other body parts?
If we made "ACG - The Movie" - who would play you?
If one thing could suddenly appear on your desk / fall
in your lap, what would you like it to be?
What is your greatest fear?
Your last five holidays were where?
Which cartoon character are you?
If someone's hitting on you - what's guaranteed to work?
Can you keep a secret?
Who or what is your least favourite thing in the world?
What gives you a warm fuzzy feeling inside?
NEW STUFF:
If you were stranded in a cabin high up in the swiss alps, what three
things would you want with you? And would you mind the whole experience
being filmed for public viewing?
White Michael Jackson or Black Michael Jackson?
If you could have any one super power, what would it be?
Anything else you want to say that you don't feel is covered above?
Kits, well hop to it!
--
- Quis Hanc Felem Exhaurit -
Kitsune
STATS:
Name: Kitsune, Kits, eh you!
Real name: Dominic Michael Mauricio
E-mail address: look up there in my reply to
Web page: http://people.enternet.com.au/~kitsune (mind you there's only
a place holder there at the moment)
Other newsgroups you frequent: umm the one over there... no to the
left... your *other* left...the one with the bloody bats on the door!
Length of time on the 'net: sometime since 94-95
Length of time as a net.goth: since about 96
Place of residence: purple and black tardis in Windsor, Vic (yep I'm a
south side homeeee)
But I'd rather live in: a quaint lighthouse on my own private island,
with all the bells and whistles
APPEARANCE:
Chromosomal makeup: I'm a boi. But my chromosomes don't wear makeup.
Age: young... very young. but my mind says I'm really old
Height: this high -puts hand on his head- but taller when standing.
Weight: about 65 kg... but I deliver a mean sucker punch.
Hair for this week: black wifout bloo bits, short back and sides. Really
in need of dyeing it bloo
Natural hair colour: black wifout bloo bits
Eyes: dark brown.
Tattoos/Piercings/Scars/Other: 2 tatts (a chinese dragon and a spider),
1 piercing, multiple scars, a thingie, and bones that are in need of
replacement
Preferred clothing: leather jacket, my "beemer" boots, bike gear
Your favourite "non-Goth" clothes: that purple cat jumper thingie (which
I didn't bring to Walhalla this year)
The daggiest thing I ever wore was: that jester outfit a couple of years
back... which beats the mumu I wore to a high-school play... and is
definitely more daggy than my poncing clothes
LIFESTYLE:
Occupation: Ex-Tech Support Pimp, now a glorified PA
But I'd really like to be an: independently wealthy ex-army ninja
gentleman spy or an infamous pirate "arrr" cruising the seven seas in a
steel ship
When I was ten I wanted to be: an architect
Number of acg'ers with whom you've been "intimate" (snog & upwards): a
few... but I'm not at liberty to disclose that information
Availability status: happily taken
Sexual preference: yummy
Religion: sharp shiny pointy thing wielding gamer geek (still)
Pets: feline overlord named vlad, feline overlord in a dog suit named sable
Your worst habit: quitting smoking (three years in a row!)
Perky/mopey/neither: rheumy
I would describe my dancing style as: non-existent
Most of your money gets spent on: bills... more bills...
Dietary classification: omnivore, though I can do a jabba the hutt
impersination
Liver: well pickled, never drunk
Hobbies: swinging sharp shiny pointy things with pananche, being a gamer
geek, motorcycles, 4WD...and stuff!
FAVOURITES:
Band: Veruca Salt
Love song: I'll have to get back to you on that one.
Dance-like-a-maniac song: any of them, but I haven't danced like a
maniac lately... the bouncers keep taking away the carving knife
Pub: the Eric
Club: still... bwoo velvet (though I haven't been for oh so long)
Book/genre/author/poet: still Magician, though its not steampunk, and
yes I do like Fiest, and Poe, cause I don't own any of the classics...
like the Illiad.
TV show: don't really watch too much TV... but any docos on the ABC
Actor/actress: Sean Connery (that insane scot), Drew Barrymore (whos
films I'll watch even if they're shite)
Movie: Willow, the Princess Bride, the Road to El Dorado
Artist/artwork: Tim Bradstreet, Scott Kurtz, Roman Dirge, Gerald Brom.
(with one of my fave pieces being Black Angel by Brom)
Animal: Vlad says I should say Cat...Sable says the same... though I do
like the mongoose and I've a collection of beaver shots. ;)
Food: Lasagne, though B's chilli is up there (with pickled octopus)
Drink: Scotch & Dry.
Texture: Smooove.
Place to go: There
Way to go: Faaaaast
MISCELLANY:
What got you into this whole "goth" thing anyhow? a long time ago, in a
galaxy far far away... I was told that I was more goffy than most
people... so I thought I'd try it out... and it stuck
What do you wear to bed? ask B. ;P
Do you decapitate Jelly Babies and Teddy Bear biscuits before
progressing to other body parts? only if I'm allowed to use a guillotine
If we made "ACG - The Movie" - who would play you? some short asian
dude... I'd like it to be Donny Yuen (the samurai dude in Blade 2)
If one thing could suddenly appear on your desk / fall
in your lap, what would you like it to be? I asked for DaVinci's journal
last year and I didn't get it, so how about a magic lamp with 3 wishes
What is your greatest fear? That I'm not really me. (hey it would be
really scary to be you)
Your last five holidays were where? mostly local. Walhalla (does that
count?), Bendigo, Perf, I don't remember... B, little help?
Which cartoon character are you? Riff from Sluggy. Though I would like
to be: Lusiphur from Poison Elves
If someone's hitting on you - what's guaranteed to work? my wife's
recommendation, a big stick (providing I don't block), and most
importantly... my wanting to be hit on. ;)
Can you keep a secret? yep.
Who or what is your least favourite thing in the world? right now, its
Bracksy.
What gives you a warm fuzzy feeling inside? My lovely blokette
NEW STUFF:
If you were stranded in a cabin high up in the swiss alps, what three
things would you want with you? And would you mind the whole experience
being filmed for public viewing?
1: My lovely Blokette
2: a warm rug
3: and something to beat up the camera crew with.
(of course I'd mind... reality TV sucks arse)
White Michael Jackson or Black Michael Jackson? pre "off the wall"
Michael Jackson
If you could have any one super power, what would it be? hehehe... well
I did like that whole spidey strength thing :)
Anything else you want to say that you don't feel is covered above?
who'd do that?
Kits, well... is it that much different to last year?
n4cat
>
> STATS:
> Name:
n4cat
> Real name:
enfa cat
> E-mail address:
n4cat at yahoo dot com
> Web page:
n4cat dot blogspot dot com
> Other newsgroups you frequent:
too many to remember and it changes depending on mood and the tidal
influence of the moon.
> Length of time on the 'net:
a lot of years but very few seriously
> Length of time as a net.goth:
about 4 years now
> Place of residence:
Perf
> But I'd rather live in:
denial
> APPEARANCE:
> Chromosomal makeup:
boi thang
> Age:
tirty someting
> Height:
somewhere near 6 foot a few inches less or more depending on the boots
> Weight:
down on last years but not nearly enough
> Hair for this week:
red with white bits
> Natural hair colour:
red without the white bits
> Eyes:
bloo
> Tattoos/Piercings/Scars/Other:
none/none/a couple/beard goatee red with more white bits
> Preferred clothing:
comfortable both physically and mentally
> Your favourite "non-Goth" clothes:
I ain't no stinkin' goth
> The daggiest thing I ever wore was:
black double breasted pin stripe suit with a dark burgundy shirt and similar
tie
> LIFESTYLE:
> Occupation:
IT wanabe
> But I'd really like to be a:
person who is comfortably well off
> When I was ten I wanted to be:
an insane homicidal killer
or a cat burglar
which ever got me the most money
> Number of acg'ers with whom you've been "intimate" (snog & upwards):
none
> Availability status:
not
> Sexual preference:
no sex please we're married
> Religion:
all and none
> Pets:
2 cats, several fish and 3 children
> Your worst habit:
answering polls
> Perky/mopey/neither:
both several times a day sliding rollercoaster like from one to the other.
> I would describe my dancing style as:
stylish, however everyone else describes it as epileptic
> Most of your money gets spent on:
bills bills bills
> Dietary classification:
"It moved! Lets kill it and eat it! RAW!"
> Liver:
screwed
> Hobbies
antagonising old women, harassing old men and annoying jarod
> FAVOURITES:
> Band:
ben harper at the moment
> Love song:
lets pretend we're bunny rabbits by the magnetic fields
> Dance-like-a-maniac song:
one step beyond by madness
> Pub:
nope
> Club:
and this is way out
> Book/genre/author/poet:
dune, frank herbert / fantasy but I read all genres / Gemmell, Moorcock /
Poe
> TV show:
not much on at the moment umm
CSI
> Actor/actress:
none and none
> Movie:
bladerunner, last of the mohicans, dark city, tombstone
> Artist/artwork:
McCubbin / Impressionists
> Animal:
from the muppets
> Food:
mostly everything except tomatoes
> Drink:
where?!
> Texture:
rough
> Place to go:
home
> Way to go:
in style
> MISCELLANY:
> What got you into this whole "goth" thing anyhow?
not a not a goth goth
> What do you wear to bed?
boxers
except Lenox Lewis as he's too big
> Do you decapitate Jelly Babies and Teddy Bear biscuits before
> progressing to other body parts?
What's the use when they can't feel the pain?
> If we made "ACG - The Movie" - who would play you?
some red headed git more than likely
> If one thing could suddenly appear on your desk / fall
> in your lap, what would you like it to be?
large amounts of cash
> What is your greatest fear?
that I'll be stuck here forever
> Your last five holidays were where?
holidays?! HA!
> Which cartoon character are you?
I don't know! Pick a complete bastard with red hair and I'll be that one.
> If someone's hitting on you - what's guaranteed to work?
not being subtle
> Can you keep a secret?
Nope!
but at least I'm honest about it
> Who or what is your least favourite thing in the world?
me at the moment
> What gives you a warm fuzzy feeling inside?
swallowing microwaved kittens
> NEW STUFF:
> If you were stranded in a cabin high up in the swiss alps, what three
> things would you want with you? And would you mind the whole experience
> being filmed for public viewing?
3 things?
does a cheerleading team count as one thing?
umm
a large book collection
a large amount of food
and some way to go to the toilet
as for filming...if they think that they can get ratings out of watching me
read all day then they are welcome to film me.
> White Michael Jackson or Black Michael Jackson?
bubbles
> If you could have any one super power, what would it be?
the ability to know what the hells going on
> Anything else you want to say that you don't feel is covered above?
yes
--
n4cat
"Cry 'Havoc,' and let slip the dogs of war"
Shakespeare, Julius Caesar, Act 3 Scene 1
Barbarella
supposed to have here, eh? Come on, you lot - talk about yourselves!)
> STATS:
> Name:
Barbarella
> Real name:
Barbara, B., b.
> E-mail address:
barbarella-at-internettrash-dot-com
> Web page:
http://www.internettrash.com/users/barbarella or
http://theUnfaithfulWriter.blogspot.com for wanking-at-the-world value
> Other newsgroups you frequent:
ag, agp, ukpg, av, aus.films, thedamned one & the brucecampbell one
> Length of time on the 'net:
celebratin' a decade this year
> Length of time as a net.goth:
brought it with me when i came in
> Place of residence:
the TARDIS in Windsor (which is getting a tad crowded, even for a
TARDIS)
> But I'd rather live in:
a larger space
> APPEARANCE:
> Chromosomal makeup:
blokette
> Age:
just like a vinyl album
> Height:
5'3"
> Weight:
fluctuating as we speak
> Hair for this week:
fireengine red mohawk
> Natural hair colour:
Let's just say grey and be done with it.
> Eyes:
"the blue of old tattoos"
> Tattoos/Piercings/Scars/Other:
2 tatts, left ear pierced twice, much scars
> Preferred clothing:
gothic punk
> Your favourite "non-Goth" clothes:
these days, that'd be gothic punk
> The daggiest thing I ever wore was:
Cactus.
> LIFESTYLE:
> Occupation:
receiver of other people's crap, apprently
> But I'd really like to be a:
Boho blokette of leisure & intrigue
> When I was ten I wanted to be:
Ace Frehley's girlfriend. Or Han Solo.
> Number of acg'ers with whom you've been "intimate" (snog & upwards):
Lots. Naming them would be reminiscent of the hostess on Romper Room
looking through
her magic mirror.
> Availability status:
Blissfully happy with my Kits.
> Sexual preference:
intelligent beauty
> Religion:
wot I like
> Pets:
that wonderful feline gentleman, Vlad
> Your worst habit:
Letting it all get to me far too often.
> Perky/mopey/neither:
merky
> I would describe my dancing style as:
post-rheumatic
> Most of your money gets spent on:
trying to get ahead
> Dietary classification:
vegetarian for 21 years
> Liver:
probably doesn't like me very much
> Hobbies:
words, pictures, moving pictures, music, dreaming
> FAVOURITES:
> Band:
The Damned and a billion others.
> Love song:
Recently... probably 'I'll Be There' by the Jackson 5.
> Dance-like-a-maniac song:
Recently... haven't been.
> Pub:
the Eric
> Club:
Bloov.
> Book/genre/author/poet:
OED/good/Sandro/Shakespeare
> TV show:
docos, BBC, footy, decent cartoons, arty stuff
> Actor/actress:
Jack Lemmon / Shirley MacLaine
> Movie:
so many, so little time
> Artist/artwork:
Caravaggio
> Animal:
ever notice Pangolins look like the Skeksis from the Dark Crystal when
they're
walking? Anyway, all of 'em except arachnids.
> Food:
many savoury things
> Drink:
would you believe I drink a lot of water these days?
> Texture:
Kits
> Place to go:
away
> Way to go:
quickly
> MISCELLANY:
> What got you into this whole "goth" thing anyhow?
The basslines and the mohawks.
> What do you wear to bed?
Often, a large cat curled up on my head.
> Do you decapitate Jelly Babies and Teddy Bear biscuits before
> progressing to other body parts?
From memory, yes.
> If we made "ACG - The Movie" - who would play you?
Leelee Sobieski.
> If one thing could suddenly appear on your desk / fall
> in your lap, what would you like it to be?
A whole lotta cash.
> What is your greatest fear?
Mediocrity.
> Your last five holidays were where?
Walhalla, Bendigo, a Nullabor crossing, home, Victorian Highlands.
> Which cartoon character are you?
Jane Lane.
> If someone's hitting on you - what's guaranteed to work?
"Hi there, I'm Orlando Bloom. Your husband said I could *this*."
> Can you keep a secret?
*shhh*
> Who or what is your least favourite thing in the world?
In the words of Vladimir Nabokov- "My loathings are simple: stupidity,
oppression,
crime, cruelty, soft music."
> What gives you a warm fuzzy feeling inside?
Warmth, fuzziness.
> NEW STUFF:
> If you were stranded in a cabin high up in the swiss alps, what three
> things would you want with you? And would you mind the whole experience
> being filmed for public viewing?
My entire household, a whole lotta cash, excellent health. Are the
public that
desperate?
> White Michael Jackson or Black Michael Jackson?
Black.
> If you could have any one super power, what would it be?
Can I be an elf?
> Anything else you want to say that you don't feel is covered above?
In keeping with my Richard E. Grantness from last year, I would just
like to say "The
fucker will RUE THE DAY!"
Barbarella.
--
"We've been in here too long. I feel unusual.
I think we should go outside." - Withnail.
http://www.internettrash.com/users/barbarella
http://theUnfaithfulWriter.blogspot.com
Dan
"Kitsune" <kit...@no.ube.enter.net.au> wrote in message
news:3EC18BE7...@no.ube.enter.net.au...
>
> So without further ado... here are the questions.
>
> STATS:
> Real name: Danilo Gabibov-Vasilevich
> E-mail address: dani...@optushome.com.au
> Web page: moo
> Other newsgroups you frequent: none
> Length of time on the 'net: a few years now...
> Length of time as a net.goth: I don't understand the question
> Place of residence: Rosanna
> But I'd rather live in: Ibiza of course :)
>
> APPEARANCE:
> Chromosomal makeup: Possibly male
> Age: 23
> Height: just shy of 2 metres
> Weight: about 95 kg
> Hair for this week: black
> Eyes: tree (ie, green foliage on the outside with brown trunks
and roots.)
> Tattoos/Piercings/Scars/Other: Nup, I'm a nice clean boy.
> Preferred clothing: Something comfortable. I look good enough
anyway :)
> Your favourite "non-Goth" clothes: See above.
> The daggiest thing I ever wore was: The black cord jacket I
still wear all the time.
>
> LIFESTYLE:
> Occupation: Party & Mobile DJ
> But I'd really like to be a: Bond, James Bond
> When I was ten I wanted to be: Fighter pilot
> Number of acg'ers with whom you've been "intimate" (snog &
> Availability status: No vacancy.
> Sexual preference: Straight. Even though guys can be cute.
> Religion: Me.
> Pets: Lola, 15 year old foxy cross, and possibly the smelliest
and most smartarse dog alive.
> Your worst habit: Babbling at people about new music.
> Perky/mopey/neither: I think that perky would be an
understatement
> I would describe my dancing style as: constantly improving, but
don't get in my way just in case you cop an elbow :)
> Most of your money gets spent on: What money? I barely have
enough to survive. Probably my cable connection if anything, or
going out on weekends.
> Dietary classification: Whatever it is, I'll probably eat it.
(err, no bad jokes thanks)
> Liver: Tastes good. Err, probably relatively okay since I
don't drink much :)
> Hobbies: Listening to music, dancing, going out, reading,
watching movies, discovering new experiences.
>
> FAVOURITES:
> Band: Too difficult. I particularly like Nick Cave,
Einsturzende Neubauten, the Tea Party, Covenant & XPQ-21
> Love song: Nick Cave - Loverman
> Dance-like-a-maniac song: Too many to name, again. Probably
Loverman too. Or maybe "Babel" by Covenant.
> Pub: Don't really frequent them.
> Club: Since I work for most of them, I think I probably
shouldn't answer this question. Nightclub owners are so easy to
offend.
> Book/genre/author/poet: Love Terry Pratchett & JK Rowling of
course. (Currently reading Pratchett's newie "The Wee Free Men"
and it's a work of pure genius, even by Pratchett's standards).
Also like reading Hunter S Thompson and George Orwell.
> TV show: LEXX!! There will never be a better sci-fi show.
And of course Buffy & Angel. And i've been getting into 24
lately.
> Actor/actress: Alan Rickman, Johnny Depp, Al Pacino, Sir Ian
McKellen, Sergei Dreiden (from "Russian Ark"), Eric Bana.
> Movie: Lord of the Rings, Harry Potter, Vanilla Sky, Fear &
Loathing in Las Vegas, Battleship Potemkin :)
> Artist/artwork: Anything that isn't Picasso.
> Animal: Every one of them. I rescue white tail spiders from
the bath. Ok I hate mosquitoes though.
> Food: Potatoes. They go with everything. I really like Sarma
too.
> Drink: On the weekends, V. During the week, something like
cranberry juice or maybe rosehip tea.
> Texture: Suede. Or satin.
> Place to go: My bedroom.
> Way to go: singing all the way...
>
> MISCELLANY:
> What got you into this whole "goth" thing anyhow?: Started
going to alternative clubs when I was over 18 (used to go to
Stylus underage before that, ahh fond memories of the alternative
covers bands, one of which is now Taxiride). A couple of my
friends were turning vaguely gothwise, I started occasionally
liking a few NIN and Tea Party tracks, then REALLY started liking
the Tea Party, and through that Nick Cave, and through that
Neubauten, and from then it was pretty much downhill.
> What do you wear to bed? Nothing. my body naturally seems to
generate a lot heat.
> Do you decapitate Jelly Babies and Teddy Bear biscuits before
> progressing to other body parts? I do not believe in cruelty
to jelly babies. A fair and just death for all.
> If we made "ACG - The Movie" - who would play you? Me. There
is no-one else who can.
> If one thing could suddenly appear on your desk / fall
> in your lap, what would you like it to be? My girlfriend :)
> What is your greatest fear? Growing old. And I don't mean
just physically.
> Your last five holidays were where? Russia, New Caledonia,
Malaysia, Russia, Bali (please keep in mind the last of these was
1997)
> Which cartoon character are you? I don't think I really fit
any of the molds...
> If someone's hitting on you - what's guaranteed to work?
Nothing at the moment. We'll discuss it if i'm ever single again
yes?
> Can you keep a secret? Yes I can. Used to be pretty bad at it
though.
> Who or what is your least favourite thing in the world?
Probably Dubya at the moment. I get angry just thinking about
him. Although it'd be truer to say that I hate giant
multinational corporations more, since they ultimately control
what he does anyway. But as a person he's just so... offensive!
> What gives you a warm fuzzy feeling inside? Sex. And good
food. And, errr, a good night out.
> NEW STUFF:
> If you were stranded in a cabin high up in the swiss alps, what
three
> things would you want with you? And would you mind the whole
experience
> being filmed for public viewing?: My girlfriend (though she's
not a "thing", redheads get so touchy I have to put that in), my
CD player and all my music, or maybe my computer with it's mp3
collection. Peeping Toms not welcome.
> White Michael Jackson or Black Michael Jackson? Do you
seriously think anyone will answer "White" to this question?
"Thriller" had STYLE!
> If you could have any one super power, what would it be?
America :) So I could do some serious re-structuring.
> Anything else you want to say that you don't feel is covered
above? MOOOOOOOO!
Love Dan
Kitsune
> "Kitsune" <kit...@no.ube.enter.net.au> wrote in message
> news:3EC18BE7...@no.ube.enter.net.au...
>
> is no-one else who can.
I don't know about actors... but I know someone who looks awfully like a
blonde you. :)
>If someone's hitting on you - what's guaranteed to work?
> Nothing at the moment. We'll discuss it if i'm ever single again
> yes?
Are you sure you're straight? ;p
>White Michael Jackson or Black Michael Jackson? Do you
> seriously think anyone will answer "White" to this question?
> "Thriller" had STYLE!
Yup. Cause some of the new stuff is kinda boppy in its own way. :)
>If you could have any one super power, what would it be?
> America :) So I could do some serious re-structuring.
ROFLMAO. thas good it is.
Kits, yep I'm keeping tabs
Thorfinn
Name: Thorfinn, Thorfy, Thorf, Throffy, Thorfi, David, Dave, Davo
Real name: David Goh
E-mail address: thor...@tertius.net.au
Web page: http://tertius.net.au/~thorfinn/
Other newsgroups you frequent: rec.games.diplomacy, aus.games.roleplay
Length of time on the 'net: 11 years
Length of time as a net.goth: 11 years
Place of residence: Two houses in Melbun
But I'd rather live in: One bigger house in Melbun
APPEARANCE:
Chromosomal makeup: XY
Age: 29 (30 in a couple of weeks)
Height: 5'8.5" ish
Weight: 70 kg ish
Hair for this week: black
Natural hair colour: black
Eyes: v. dark brown
Tattoos/Piercings/Scars/Other: one 14 ga ear piercing.
Preferred clothing: black jeans, long black t-shirt, black GPs.
Your favourite "non-Goth" clothes: tracksuit pants and top
The daggiest thing I ever wore was: a Darth Vader suit
LIFESTYLE:
Occupation: Software Architect
But I'd really like to be a: Software Architect
When I was ten I wanted to be: Didn't know
Number of acg'ers with whom you've been "intimate" (snog & upwards): 5-ish?
Availability status: Two primary partners, potentially available for casual foo
Sexual preference: bisexual, polyamorous, switch, and picky.
Religion: Weird.
Pets: None of my own.
Your worst habit: Forgetf
Perky/mopey/neither: neither
I would describe my dancing style as: graceful
Most of your money gets spent on: rent
Dietary classification: mostly carnivorous
Liver: healthy
Hobbies: Diplomacy ( http://www.diplom.org/ ),
Choir ( http://www.mucs.aicsa.org.au/ ),
Roleplaying ( http://www.vurt.net/ )
FAVOURITES:
Band: Clouds
Love song: Clouds - Baby
Dance-like-a-maniac song: Clouds - Red Serenade
Pub: Windsor Castle (the one with three pink elephants on top)
Club: None right now, not in the mood.
Book/genre/author/poet: Player of Games/SF/Iain M. Banks/none
TV show: Buffy
Actor/actress:
Movie: Cats Meow
Artist/artwork:
Animal: Wolf
Food: Steak
Drink: Coffee
Texture: smooth
Place to go: The Internet
Way to go: peacefully
MISCELLANY:
What got you into this whole "goth" thing anyhow? I blame the Internet.
What do you wear to bed? Nothing.
Do you decapitate Jelly Babies and Teddy Bear biscuits before
progressing to other body parts? Sometimes. Sometimes I torture them.
If we made "ACG - The Movie" - who would play you? Jackie Chan?
If one thing could suddenly appear on your desk / fall
in your lap, what would you like it to be? A winning lottery ticket for
about $10 million.
What is your greatest fear?
Your last five holidays were where? Sydney, Sydney, Sydney, Sydney, Sydney.
Which cartoon character are you?
If someone's hitting on you - what's guaranteed to work? Smile, talk
intelligently, be kinked.
Can you keep a secret? Yes.
Who or what is your least favourite thing in the world?
What gives you a warm fuzzy feeling inside? Snuggling up with
partner(s).
NEW STUFF:
If you were stranded in a cabin high up in the swiss alps, what three
things would you want with you? Food, water, air.
And would you mind the whole experience being filmed for public viewing?
No.
White Michael Jackson or Black Michael Jackson? Neither, ew.
If you could have any one super power, what would it be? Regeneration.
Anything else you want to say that you don't feel is covered above?
Nuclear Hand Grenades For All!
--
<a href="http://tertius.net.au/~thorfinn">thor...@tertius.net.au</a>
S is for Sara, got crushed by a ball
T is for Tori, bounced into a wall
-- Doug Atkinson <douga*io.com> in rec.games.roguelike.nethack
Ms. V
Here we go again....
>
> So without further ado... here are the questions.
>
> STATS:Ms.V/severina
> Real name: Victoria
> E-mail address: vic...@alphalink.com.au
> Web page: -
> Other newsgroups you frequent: alt.gothic.fashion
> Length of time on the 'net: hmmmm - a good few years. I'm actually not sure.
> Length of time as a net.goth: 7 at least.
> Place of residence: Melbourne
> But I'd rather live in: Scotland
>
> APPEARANCE:
> Chromosomal makeup: XX
> Age: 30, soon to be 31
> Height: a huuuge 5ft3
> Weight: 55 kilos I think.
> Hair for this week: Red and black
> Natural hair colour: Mousey dark blonde/grey
> Eyes: Green
> Tattoos/Piercings/Scars/Other: 1 tattoo, no piercings, and more tattoos pending.
> Preferred clothing: black and form fitting.
> Your favourite "non-Goth" clothes: Office clothes - ties, pin stripe vests, stuff like that.
> The daggiest thing I ever wore was: a Humphrey B Bear T-shirt and flares. I was 4 okay!
>
> LIFESTYLE:
> Occupation: Artist/arse fucked Production Monkey
> But I'd really like to be a: lady of leisure
> When I was ten I wanted to be: A vet
> Number of acg'ers with whom you've been "intimate" (snog & upwards): Three I believe.
> Availability status: Happily partnered
> Sexual preference: Bois - I think.
> Religion: None. Ha!
> Pets: Balbi, my aging grumpy tabby.
> Your worst habit: grinding teeth/putting myself down.
> Perky/mopey/neither: Cheeky
> I would describe my dancing style as: traditional
> Most of your money gets spent on: Books
> Dietary classification: You name it, I'll eat it.
> Liver: still kicking on.
> Hobbies: Costuming
>
> FAVOURITES:
> Band: Ministry
> Love song: Gorecki - Lamb or Sanvean - Lisa Gerrard
> Dance-like-a-maniac song: Stigmata - ministry or Hellraiser - Suicide Commandoes
> Pub: the Dev
> Club: they're all much of a sameness - pick one.
> Book/genre/author/poet: don't know where to start!!! Everything and anything!
> TV show: Futurama
> Actor/actress: Alan Rickman
> Movie: Wings of Desire
> Artist/artwork: Annette Bezor and Leigh Bowery
> Animal: Cats
> Food: Steak
> Drink: yes thanks, I'll have a martini
> Texture: smooth
> Place to go: Edinburgh
> Way to go: walk
>
> MISCELLANY:
> What got you into this whole "goth" thing anyhow? A angsty couple of years at school? A natural morbidity? Disgust? Who knows?
> What do you wear to bed? A T shirt
> Do you decapitate Jelly Babies and Teddy Bear biscuits before
> progressing to other body parts? No - I dont eat that sort of thing.
> If we made "ACG - The Movie" - who would play you? I'd be an animated character
> If one thing could suddenly appear on your desk / fall
> in your lap, what would you like it to be? Jud
> What is your greatest fear? Losing my sight
> Your last five holidays were where? Sydney, North Carolina, London, Holland and East Timor.
> Which cartoon character are you? Sub grrrl.
> If someone's hitting on you - what's guaranteed to work? Intelligence
> Can you keep a secret? Yes - why, what have you heard?
> Who or what is your least favourite thing in the world? J-Ho.
> What gives you a warm fuzzy feeling inside? My cat
>
> NEW STUFF:
> If you were stranded in a cabin high up in the swiss alps, what three
> things would you want with you? And would you mind the whole experience
> being filmed for public viewing? A good companion, a book and a dog - no I wouldn't mind it being filmed
> White Michael Jackson or Black Michael Jackson? White
> If you could have any one super power, what would it be? Mental telepathy
> Anything else you want to say that you don't feel is covered above? As usual, nope.
Ms. V
Sid
> STATS:
> Name:
Sid / s.i.d / eggler:
> E-mail address:
lent_e...@hotmail.com
> Web page:
http://bstardepiphany.digitalrice.com/ which still seems to be up, loooong
time since updates.
> Other newsgroups you frequent:
not even this one these days
> Length of time on the 'net:
um, when I started highschool I got to see the net
> Length of time as a net.goth:
this is Show and Tell no. 3
> Place of residence:
Toowoomba
> But I'd rather live in:
somewhere with a comic book shop
>
> APPEARANCE:
> Chromosomal makeup: she
> Age: 21
> Height: 169cm
> Weight: fifty something
> Hair for this week: purple black
> Natural hair colour: mousy grey
> Eyes: blue
> Tattoos/Piercings/Scars/Other: yes to all
> The daggiest thing I ever wore was: too many choices
>
> LIFESTYLE:
> Occupation:
Production Assistant
> But I'd really like to be a:
The story graphic person for SBS news
> When I was ten I wanted to be:
I don't know
> Number of acg'ers with whom you've been "intimate" (snog & upwards):
I've not meet anybody from acg. I'd keep far away from them if I did. :-)
> Availability status:
not
> Sexual preference:
apathetic currently
> Religion:
agnostic (lets get the apathy theme going shall we? :-)
> Pets: 0
> Your worst habit:
I'm very vague
> Perky/mopey/neither: neither
>
I would describe my dancing style as:
You know that Seinfield episode...
> Most of your money gets spent on:
rent, CDs, car, literature, food, in that order
> Dietary classification: Subway
> Liver: accounted for
> Hobbies:
learning the viola, books, comics, food, music, the usual
>
> FAVOURITES:
> Band: too hard to choose
> Love song:
ah, I like that no1 track on the Resurrection Eve CD, I think that's a love
song.
> Dance-like-a-maniac song:
at the moment one by welle erdball that I can't spell or pronounce
> Pub:
> Club: sid is hermit girl
> Book/genre/author/poet: I can't pick one of any
> TV show: Gardening Australia (and that's your lot for the week! :)
> Actor/actress: Noah Taylor maybe, Alan Rickman, Mr Grant
>
Movie:
I don't know, I watched Citizen Kane on VHS last night, that was fun.
> Artist/artwork: again, to hard to pick
> Food:
Subway, plan white & salad & beef, caser salad dressing (they try to hide
it)
> Drink: coke has me
> Texture: suede
> Place to go: tell me, I'm easily lead
> Way to go: I got me wheels!
>
> MISCELLANY:
> What got you into this whole "goth" thing anyhow?
Goth? God, where am I?
> What do you wear to bed? felix the cat t-shirt
> Do you decapitate Jelly Babies and Teddy Bear biscuits before
> progressing to other body parts?
sounds like something I'd do
> If we made "ACG - The Movie" - who would play you? I get left out during
the re-write
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I'm too lazy to answer the questions here
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> Who or what is your least favourite thing in the world?
8mm movie film, sticky tape joins in 8mm movie film, people who join 8mm
movie film with sticky tape, 8mm movie film projectors, 50ft 8mm movie film
spools, big 8mm movie film spools, big 8mm movie fim spools full of sticky
tape joins, people who own 8mm movie films. olives.
> What gives you a warm fuzzy feeling inside?
It's probably some kind of disease
> Anything else you want to say that you don't feel is covered above?
Correct at time of printing. Lazy at time of printing
Sid was ere
Rosencrantz
> Name: Rosecrantz
> Real name: There are some who call me... Tim
> E-mail address: Hit the reply button
> Web page: C:\webpage\index.html
> Other newsgroups you frequent: Before this question, none, after this
question, I'm going to see what's out there again.
> Length of time on the 'net: ummm, about a decade? Maybe?
> Length of time as a net.goth: About the same, buggered if I can
remember really... When did I first post here?
> Place of residence: It's been called Yuppieville, Australia Post refer
to it as Chatswood
> But I'd rather live in: In an old light house by the sea
>
> APPEARANCE:
> Chromosomal makeup: They used to like black eyeliner but have grown
lazy of late, boys can be like that.
> Age: Getting close to 27 times around the nearest bright ball of gas to
hang in the sky
> Height: Over a meter and a half? I tend to not measure myself so I'm
not a good judge
> Weight: 60isk kg
> Hair for this week: Black that needs it's roots done.
> Natural hair colour: Light brown that can seem blonde
> Eyes: Brown
> Tattoos/Piercings/Scars/Other: Metal through the tongue, scars on both
hands and left forearm (glass door inflicted)
> Preferred clothing: What ever happen's to be comfortable and what I
grab first
> Your favourite "non-Goth" clothes: Pajamas
> The daggiest thing I ever wore was: A McDonalds uniform
>
> LIFESTYLE:
> Occupation: Basiclly running a team of phone monkeys (telephone busines
consultants) and being one myself
> But I'd really like to be a: 3D artist working on games (maybe even
Tribes 3?), or something creative? Actaully I'll settle for being an
insurance underwriter or claims assessor these days
> When I was ten I wanted to be: A lot of different exciting things
> Number of acg'ers with whom you've been "intimate" (snog & upwards):
> Availability status: Taken
> Sexual preference: girlies
> Religion: It has no name, it needs none, I don't much think about it.
> Pets: A bonsai
> Your worst habit: Occasionally getting distracted?
> Perky/mopey/neither: Mopey by default, known to be perky with alcohol
consumed
> I would describe my dancing style as: back and forth, move hands, or
what ever else seems to be a good idea at the time
> Most of your money gets spent on: bills and savings
> Dietary classification: Omnivore
> Liver: Happy that I haven't been on a big drinking spree in a while
> Hobbies Gaming, doing what I call art, music, movies, reading, eating
>
> FAVOURITES:
> Band: Only one? Then I'll put down The Devoted Few, but I'd like to
lodge an official protest at having to just choose one.
> Love song: No Myth - Micheal Penn
> Dance-like-a-maniac song: I don't care - Bionic or Safety Dance -
Men Without Hats
> Pub: Baron Bar in the Cross or The Century in the city
> Club: That's currently running? Vortex or Kontrol. And anything that
Leigh* dj's at :)
> Book/genre/author/poet: I'm going through a Peter F. Hamilton phase
> TV show: Babylon 5, Angel, The Office, The Simpsons, 24, Space Rangers,
The Goodies, ABC Sumo coverage from about 5 years ago now
> Actor/actress: Currently it's Christian Bale after I downloaded
Equlibrium
> Movie: Memento, Fight Club, The Englist Patient, Baraka, Brotherhood Of
The Wolf, Wings Of Honieamise, Patlabor, and many more
> Artist/artwork: Right now it's Fred from MegaTokyo
> Animal: Polar Bears and Panda's
> Food: A good plate of Nacho's
> Drink: Cocktails
> Texture: Velvet, silk, skin
> Place to go: out
> Way to go: Walking or car passanger
>
> MISCELLANY:
> What got you into this whole "goth" thing anyhow? Some of the best
music I've ever heard and a school friends great brother and his insanely
attractive girlfriend
> What do you wear to bed? Nothing
> Do you decapitate Jelly Babies and Teddy Bear biscuits before
> If we made "ACG - The Movie" - who would play you? I'm going to go with
a young Ralph Finnes with long black hair and no tan.
> If one thing could suddenly appear on your desk / fall
really missing.
> What is your greatest fear? Heights and broken glass
> Your last five holidays were where? At home
> Which cartoon character are you? Div from Penny Arcade
> If someone's hitting on you - what's guaranteed to work? Saying Hi and
letting me know your interested
> Can you keep a secret? Yes
> Who or what is your least favourite thing in the world? I don't know, I
try to not let things get to me
> What gives you a warm fuzzy feeling inside? A nice back rub
>
> NEW STUFF:
> If you were stranded in a cabin high up in the swiss alps, what three
> things would you want with you? And would you mind the whole experience
CD collection and my books. You're more than welcome to watch if you want to
> White Michael Jackson or Black Michael Jackson? I'm going to go with
White
> If you could have any one super power, what would it be? Invisability
> Anything else you want to say that you don't feel is covered above?
Rose (who needs to lurk less)
The Hittmann
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Whats this all about????
Jared
Name: Jared
Real name: Jared (thats jarEd with an E!)
E-mail address: ja...@necropolis-nightclub.org
Web page:
Other newsgroups you frequent: None
Length of time on the 'net: 13 years
Length of time as a net.goth: define "goth" ;-)
Place of residence: Newcastle, NSW, Australia
But I'd rather live in: Almost anywhere in Europe
APPEARANCE:
Chromosomal makeup: Male
Age: 25
Height: About Average...
Weight: A tiny bit heavier than i'd like to be
Hair for this week: Duh. Black
Natural hair colour: Dark Brown
Eyes: Hazel
Tattoos/Piercings/Scars/Other: None
Preferred clothing: Frills Frills and more Frills.
Your favourite "non-Goth" clothes: What I sleep in ;-)
The daggiest thing I ever wore was: A silly carboard cutout thing to a
primary school dress-up day.
LIFESTYLE:
Occupation: Unix Sys Admin
But I'd really like to be a: (I'm pretty happy right now...)
When I was ten I wanted to be: Can't remember, but since about 12 it
was computer related.
Number of acg'ers with whom you've been "intimate" (snog & upwards):
None
Availability status: Long Term Relationship
Sexual preference: I prefer GREAT sex.
Religion: I believe in me (and mixing bowl of bits of other religions)
Pets: Two cats (Newton & Aiko)
Your worst habit: I smoke
Perky/mopey/neither: Perky
I would describe my dancing style as: non-stop ;-)
Most of your money gets spent on: bills, clothes, bills, clothes,
bills, music, music!
Dietary classification: all food is good!!
Liver: i think its still there (and functioning)...
Hobbies: general geekie things, rpg, games...
FAVOURITES:
Band: Too many to name... I like music.
Love song: Wolfsheim - Künstliche Welten (english: Artificial Worlds)
Dance-like-a-maniac song: ASP - Sing Child
Pub: Cambridge Hotel, Newcastle ;-)
Club: Necropolis Nightclub ;-)
Book/genre/author/poet: I've been reading alot of european history
recently...
TV show: Buffy
Actor/actress: Alyson Hannigan (Willow in PVC - mmmmmm)
Movie: The Princess Bride
Artist/artwork:
Animal: My cats...
Food: Chocolate ;-)
Drink: Scotch is good (straight, coke or dry... scotch is good)
Texture: Silky
Place to go: Anywhere
Way to go: Generally driving
MISCELLANY:
What got you into this whole "goth" thing anyhow? Music Music Music
Clothes Clothes Clothes
What do you wear to bed? My favourite "non-goth" clothes - nothing.
Do you decapitate Jelly Babies and Teddy Bear biscuits before
progressing to other body parts? I thought that's how they were MEANT
to be eaten! (or Doesn't Everybody?)
If we made "ACG - The Movie" - who would play you? Me, of course!
If one thing could suddenly appear on your desk / fall
in your lap, what would you like it to be? a packet of Tim Tams???
What is your greatest fear? That everything isn't what it seems.
Your last five holidays were where? Canberra, Brisbane, Melbourne,
Melbourne, Melbourne
Which cartoon character are you? Spoungebob Squarepants
If someone's hitting on you - what's guaranteed to work? They better
be able to dance!
Can you keep a secret? Depends on what it is and who wants me to keep
it ;-)
Who or what is your least favourite thing in the world? Annoying
People (which really means most people ;-)
What gives you a warm fuzzy feeling inside? Coffee (you mean that
feeling of being human again after waking up?)
NEW STUFF:
If you were stranded in a cabin high up in the swiss alps, what three
things would you want with you? And would you mind the whole
experience
being filmed for public viewing?
a. Saranne (my fiance)
b. Newton (cat)
c. Aiko (cat)
No, no camera crew thanks.
White Michael Jackson or Black Michael Jackson? No michael jackson
please.
If you could have any one super power, what would it be? Future
Preminitions
Anything else you want to say that you don't feel is covered above?
No.
Neil Swadling
> Name: Nicodemus, Nico, Chechen
> Real name: Neil Swadling
> E-mail address:swan...@students.unisa.edu.au
> Web page:n/a
> Other newsgroups you frequent:none
> Length of time as a net.goth: this year
> Place of residence: Stirling, SA
> But I'd rather live in: anywhere that didn't have politicians
>
> APPEARANCE:
> Chromosomal makeup: XY
> Age: 21
> Height: 6'3"
> Weight: 68kg
> Hair for this week: dark brown
> Natural hair colour: dark brown
> Eyes: blue
> Tattoos/Piercings/Scars/Other: none/none/ plenty
> Preferred clothing: trenchcoat, CFS boots
> Your favourite "non-Goth" clothes: my ICNH clan shirt for MtG events
> The daggiest thing I ever wore was: a pair of fluffly cow pattern material
3/4 length shorts (homemade)
>
> LIFESTYLE:
> Occupation: Uni Student BA(Int Studies)
> But I'd really like to be a: filthy rich bum
> When I was ten I wanted to be: assassin
> Number of acg'ers with whom you've been "intimate" (snog & upwards): 1
> Availability status: single
> Sexual preference: bi
> Religion: raised anglican, leaning towards buddhist
> Pets: none
> Your worst habit: procrastination
> Perky/mopey/neither: mopey
> I would describe my dancing style as: bad, thus i don't dance
> Most of your money gets spent on: MtG, my computer
> Dietary classification: whatever's available
> Liver: still good
> Hobbies reading (fantasy, satire, sci-fi), PC Gaming, my drum kit
>
> FAVOURITES:
> Band: Iron maiden
> Love song: Girl of My Dreams -MGF
> Dance-like-a-maniac song: Hellsing Main Theme
> Pub: Crown and Anchor, Adelaide
> Club: Sanctuary
> Book/genre/author/poet: anything Terry Pratchett
> TV show: Stargate SG1
> Actor/actress: Tim Curry
> Movie: Pitch Black
> Artist/artwork: Derek Riggs
> Animal: Ferret
> Food: Gummismsurfs
> Drink: Garlic Eggnog
> Texture: dunno
> Place to go: Brukunga
> Way to go: anyway that's cheap
>
> MISCELLANY:
> What got you into this whole "goth" thing anyhow?
style pjs
> Do you decapitate Jelly Babies and Teddy Bear biscuits before
> If we made "ACG - The Movie" - who would play you? jude law
> If one thing could suddenly appear on your desk / fall
Gatecon/WolfSG6
> What is your greatest fear?
> Which cartoon character are you? Stimpson J. Cat
> If someone's hitting on you - what's guaranteed to work?
> Who or what is your least favourite thing in the world? George W. Bush and
his cronies
> What gives you a warm fuzzy feeling inside? apart from Bundy? Playing a
BFM with an armadillo cloak on it
>
> NEW STUFF:
> If you were stranded in a cabin high up in the swiss alps, what three
> things would you want with you? And would you mind the whole experience
change of clothes. film away
> White Michael Jackson or Black Michael Jackson? Black jacko
> If you could have any one super power, what would it be? Instant
Transmission - I hate spending 90 mins getting to uni on the bus
little miss malice
> people next door know we're still here. (and still not paying rent)
>
> The last time we did this was almost a year ago (no, don't check in
> google) So I think its time for a much needed update.
>
> Just remember, if you do want this to go up on the acg site, please
> e-mail to a...@tygger.net as well as posting to acg. You'll also need to
> *keep* the STATS: header - some people cut it. (Hobbes correct me if
> this isn't the case anymore)
>
> So without further ado... here are the questions.
>
> STATS:
> Real name: Lauren
> E-mail address: malice at iinet dot net dot au
> Web page: http://www.livejournal.com/users/missmalice
> Other newsgroups you frequent: aus.tv.buffy
> Length of time on the 'net: 6 or so years
> Length of time as a net.goth: 4 or so years
> Place of residence: Perf, WA
> But I'd rather live in: Melbum, Vic
>
> APPEARANCE:
> Chromosomal makeup: moose
> Age: 19
> Height: 5'5
> Weight: dropping every week :)
> Hair for this week: in horrid need of a dye job and undercut shave
> Natural hair colour: blonde.
> Eyes: bloo
> Tattoos/Piercings/Scars/Other: triskelion on lower back/3 per ear and
nose/fading/moose
> Preferred clothing: shiny. tight. cleavage-friendly
> Your favourite "non-Goth" clothes: shiny. tight. cleavage-friendly
> The daggiest thing I ever wore was: like i would wear something daggy.
ever.... :)
>
> LIFESTYLE:
> Occupation: student/public relations manager/soon-to-be store manager
> But I'd really like to be a: singer in a trip-hop outfit
> When I was ten I wanted to be: an actress
> Number of acg'ers with whom you've been "intimate" (snog & upwards): one
> Availability status: unavailable
> Sexual preference: my boy...or Blixa
> Religion: Eugenism
> Pets: 4 beautiful ratboys- sebastian, alexander, blit and meeple. 1
estranged Cat- Cosmo
> Your worst habit: biting my nails. bad temper.
> Perky/mopey/neither: mokey
> I would describe my dancing style as: heh. after *someone* watched me
dance to 'windowlicker' i got told my timing was perfect and i was very
sexy. so i'll go with that :)
> Most of your money gets spent on: bills/food
> Dietary classification: chicken
> Liver: doing well these days
> Hobbies: sleeping, livejournal junkie, cleaning
>
> FAVOURITES:
> Band: DeadCode
> Love song: Wicked Game -HIM (Chris Isaak cover)
> Dance-like-a-maniac song: motorbike- sheep on drugs/3am eternal-
klf/underneath the radar- underworld
> Pub: meh
> Club: meh
> Book/genre/author/poet: all-sorts.
> TV show: buffy/Angel/Simpsons
> Actor/actress: Gary Oldman/Anthony Head/Kirsten Dunst
> Movie: Rosencrantz and Guildernstern are Dead
> Artist/artwork: Grant Watson
> Animal: TITTENS! (and rats)
> Food: chicken
> Drink: coffee/red eye/grasshoppers
> Texture: latex
> Place to go: cafes/clubs/couches
> Way to go: dancing (ala Once More With Feeling)
>
> MISCELLANY:
> What got you into this whole "goth" thing anyhow? the music and the pretty
people
> What do you wear to bed? nothing
> Do you decapitate Jelly Babies and Teddy Bear biscuits before
> If we made "ACG - The Movie" - who would play you? Emma Caulfield
> If one thing could suddenly appear on your desk / fall
> What is your greatest fear? being lonely
> Your last five holidays were where? *shrugs* its been too long- i cant
remember
> Which cartoon character are you? Gir x Angriest Video Store Clerk
> If someone's hitting on you - what's guaranteed to work? alcohol
> Can you keep a secret? yes
> Who or what is your least favourite thing in the world? hehehe
> What gives you a warm fuzzy feeling inside? eating bunnies
>
> NEW STUFF:
> If you were stranded in a cabin high up in the swiss alps, what three
> things would you want with you? And would you mind the whole experience
> White Michael Jackson or Black Michael Jackson? Black
> If you could have any one super power, what would it be? transporter
powers
> Anything else you want to say that you don't feel is covered above? moose
>
James Russell
(Greylock) wrote:
>Age: 29?
Isn't there a 1 missing from the front of that number?
James R.
--
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Celluloid Dreams: Wednesday, 8pm AEST, 2SER 107.3 FM http://www.2ser.com/
James Russell
Name: James Russell
Real name: James Russell
E-mail address:
Web page: http://www.ubersportingpundit.com/hotbuttereddeath/
Other newsgroups you frequent: alt.movies.silent
Length of time on the 'net: five years this July
Length of time as a net.goth: since Halloween 2001, with occasional
flirtations prior to that
Place of residence: Sydney
But I'd rather live in: Sydney (at least somewhere nearer the centre of
same)
APPEARANCE:
Chromosomal makeup: male, the last time I checked
Age: 28
Height: 5'8"
Weight: more than it really should be
Hair for this week: untidy
Natural hair colour: dark brown
Eyes: two, grey
Tattoos/Piercings/Scars/Other: a few bruises, nothing self-inflicted
Preferred clothing: black
Your favourite "non-Goth" clothes: my white Men's Avenue shirt
The daggiest thing I ever wore was: probably the pair of pyjamas I'm wearing
now
LIFESTYLE:
Occupation: TAFE student, aspiring library technician
But I'd really like to be a: billionaire
When I was ten I wanted to be: um, I don't even remember what I had for
dinner the other night, and you want me to go back to when I was ten?
Number of acg'ers with whom you've been "intimate" (snog & upwards): only
one that I can think of
Availability status: as always
Sexual preference: Other
Religion: apatheism
Pets: none
Your worst habit: spitting in toilets
Perky/mopey/neither: eh
I would describe my dancing style as: incoherent
Most of your money gets spent on: entertainment
Dietary classification: meatarian
Liver: still in existence the last time I looked
Hobbies: reading, film watching, blogging, community radio
FAVOURITES:
Band: too many to list
Love song: eh
Dance-like-a-maniac song: probably "Touched" by VAST
Pub: the Clare (formerly the Kegroom) on Broadway
Club: none in particular
Book/genre/author/poet: H.P. Lovecraft, F. Nietzsche, R. Chandler
TV show: anything that's not "reality TV"
Actor/actress: Humphrey Bogart
Movie: too many to list
Artist/artwork: John Martin, "The Great Day of His Wrath". Also partial to
Durer, Klimt, Magritte and Renoir
Animal: dog
Food: meat
Drink: partial to vodka cruisers (Kristov more than Ruski, though)
Texture: ?????
Place to go: out
Way to go: down in flames
MISCELLANY:
What got you into this whole "goth" thing anyhow? What makes you think I'm
into goth?
What do you wear to bed? Pyjamas
Do you decapitate Jelly Babies and Teddy Bear biscuits before progressing to
other body parts? No... should I?
If we made "ACG - The Movie" - who would play you? Why on earth would anyone
want to? Bad enough I have to be me without anyone else having to be me too
If one thing could suddenly appear on your desk / fall in your lap, what
would you like it to be? An exceptionally vast sum of money
What is your greatest fear? That one day I will wake up in a mental
institution or something and find the whole last three decades or so have
been a hallucination
Your last five holidays were where? The last one was in Melbourne. Can't
remember the previous ones
Which cartoon character are you? The early 1940s version of Daffy Duck
If someone's hitting on you - what's guaranteed to work? It's been so long
since anyone hit on me that the last time someone hit on me I didn't even
know they were doing it. I still don't believe the other people I was with
that night who told me I was being hit on by this drunk Swedish teenage girl
in the Clare Hotel
Can you keep a secret? Yes
Who or what is your least favourite thing in the world? People using their
political beliefs as justification for hatred and stupidity towards others
What gives you a warm fuzzy feeling inside? I imagine being fisted by
someone wearing woollen gloves should do it.
NEW STUFF:
If you were stranded in a cabin high up in the swiss alps, what three things
would you want with you? And would you mind the whole experience being
filmed for public viewing? Warm clothes, an electric heater and a supply of
books. I wouldn't mind it being filmed, but can't imagine who'd want to
watch it
White Michael Jackson or Black Michael Jackson? If you're thinking of being
my baby it don't matter if you're black or white. Otherwise, I'll take
Blacko any day.
If you could have any one super power, what would it be? The ability to stop
time so that I can rob the wealthy and grope the attractive without their
knowing
Anything else you want to say that you don't feel is covered above? That's
what I have a weblog for
Cam
>Name: Cam
>Real name: Cameron Rogers
>E-mail address: above minus the CAPS
>Web page: www.cameron-rogers.com
>Other newsgroups you frequent: this is it.
>Length of time on the 'net: must be ten years.
>Length of time as a net.goth: ten years
>Place of residence: Melbourne
>But I'd rather live in: a post-Bush comparitive utopia
>
>APPEARANCE:
>Chromosomal makeup: d00d
>Age: is an inconvenience.
>Height: 6'
>Weight: no idea. Thin-ish.
>Hair for this week: Dark brown
>Natural hair colour: Dark brown
>Eyes: Blue
>Tattoos/Piercings/Scars/Other: one earring
>Preferred clothing: suit pants, t-shirt, shirt, longcoat, Windsor Smiths, whatever's clean.
>Your favourite "non-Goth" clothes: see above?
>The daggiest thing I ever wore was: my costume for the title role in "The Nerd".
>
>LIFESTYLE:
>Occupation: unemployed/writer
>But I'd really like to be a: employed writer
>When I was ten I wanted to be: a writer
>Number of acg'ers with whom you've been "intimate" (snog & upwards): I'm not even sure who reads here anymore.
>Availability status: Busy
>Sexual preference: Eh.
>Religion: DIY Gnostic
>Pets: None
>Your worst habit: occasionally pointing at people when I talk
>Perky/mopey/neither: Whatever's going.
>I would describe my dancing style as: I prefer not to think about it.
>Most of your money gets spent on: Necessities.
>Dietary classification: You name it I eat it.
>Liver: Intact.
>Hobbies: Drinking, sex, socialising, wargaming, computer games, dancing, travel.
>
>FAVOURITES:
>Band: Varies.
>Love song: None
>Dance-like-a-maniac song: They haven't played one of mine in so long I've forgotten what they were.
>Pub: The Inkerman, the Embassy Bar, the Dev.
>Club: Whatever's closest wins.
>Book/genre/author/poet: Varied.
>TV show: Buffy, Angel, The Hollywood Machine, Manchild, South Park, Max Headroom... stuff.
>Actor/actress: Varies
>Movie: Oodles.
>Artist/artwork: Brom, I guess.
>Animal: Coyote
>Food: Anything hot and well-made.
>Drink: Cocktails, milkshakes, vodka, coffee
>Texture: I choose 'skin', because it alludes to a controlled Latino sensuality that makes you want to bonk me.
>Place to go: Anywhere new.
>Way to go: Planes are cool, unless the journey is half the fun. In which case I'd walk.
>
>MISCELLANY:
>What got you into this whole "goth" thing anyhow? undirected teen angst.
>What do you wear to bed? Nothing.
>Do you decapitate Jelly Babies and Teddy Bear biscuits before
>If we made "ACG - The Movie" - who would play you? Same guy as last year.
>If one thing could suddenly appear on your desk / fall
>What is your greatest fear? Failure.
>Your last five holidays were where? Brisbane, Cairns, Brisbane, Cairns, London.
>Which cartoon character are you? No idea. I think there's a webtest for that.
>If someone's hitting on you - what's guaranteed to work? point-blank confidence is a good start.
>Can you keep a secret? Sure.
>Who or what is your least favourite thing in the world? Idolised hypocrites.
>What gives you a warm fuzzy feeling inside? A woollen aesophagus.
>
>NEW STUFF:
>If you were stranded in a cabin high up in the swiss alps, what three
>things would you want with you? And would you mind the whole experience
>And yes you could film it provided I retained the international rights and a 50% cut of all profits and royalties. Sign here. *zip*
>White Michael Jackson or Black Michael Jackson? -
>If you could have any one super power, what would it be? Flight.
>Anything else you want to say that you don't feel is covered above? Pants.
____________________________________________________________
Website: www.cameron-rogers.com
I am not a gun.
wico
> In news:3EC18BE7...@no.ube.enter.net.au,
> Kitsune <kit...@no.ube.enter.net.au> Retorted:
>> Just remember, if you do want this to go up on the acg site, please
>> e-mail to a...@tygger.net as well as posting to acg. You'll also
>> need to *keep* the STATS: header - some people cut it. (Hobbes
>> correct me if this isn't the case anymore)
>
>
...snip...
>
><a...@tygger.net>: unknown user: "acg"
Ah. I don't think solitaire is reading acg at the moment so he probably won't
see this message... but it would seem that the "a...@tygger.net" alias has
been deleted due to the absence of any acg related content hosted on
tygger.net nowadays. Hobbes, do you want me to hassle Jai about sending
the perl script he used to use in your direction?
w.
--
Chickenfoot! Come back! You're not a freak, you're just STUPID!
[Dib]
little miss malice
"Greylock" <Greylock_NOTT...@vurt.net> did type:
> Last episode "little miss malice"
> <mal...@spamalicious.iinet.net.spamyourhead.au> said:
> >> Age: 19
>
> No? Really?
this surprises you? how old did you think i was?
> >> Preferred clothing: shiny. tight. cleavage-friendly
>
> MMM. Cleeeeabage!
hehe.
> >> Occupation: student/public relations manager/soon-to-be store manager
>
> Really?
which part? it all sounds more glamorous than it is-
the PR gig is POGS and the store manager is a market stall opening up in
Subi soon (although-custom made boots baby :))
> >> Number of acg'ers with whom you've been "intimate" (snog & upwards):
one
>
> Who?
what makes you think i will tell you? ;)
> >> Religion: Eugenism
>
> Who is Eugine?
I decided yeaaaars ago that we are all just characters in a game of sim city
being played by a giant nerd named Eugene. scarily enough- there was an
article on Wired.com which was a rather similar theory to that, not long
ago..
> >> I would describe my dancing style as: heh. after *someone* watched me
> >dance to 'windowlicker' i got told my timing was perfect and i was very
> >sexy. so i'll go with that :)
>
> How is licking windows sexy?
im sure it can be.... *contemplates*
although richard d james certainly couldnt make that sexy...
> >> Band: DeadCode
>
> Saw them once.
him. and where? when? what did you think?
> >> Dance-like-a-maniac song: motorbike- sheep on drugs/3am eternal-
> >klf/underneath the radar- underworld
>
> What is happening with the Sheep On Drugs thing?
pre-sale tickets arent doing too well- it may well be cancelled.
> >> Way to go: dancing (ala Once More With Feeling)
>
> he.
well, it is the price you pay when life is but a song ;)
> >> What do you wear to bed? nothing
>
> And to think, somewhere, somehow, sometime, we are naked together...
> kilometres apart :)
i am thankful for the kilometres apart thing *ducks*
> >> Which cartoon character are you? Gir x Angriest Video Store Clerk
>
> Ack! I wanted to see the latter!
they are in their second season now.
2 shows left - tomorrow night and Firday night.
ive got my friday night tickets booked.
www.blueroom.net.au - get thee to this website and book your $10 a head
tickets. (assuming they have some left)
> >> If someone's hitting on you - what's guaranteed to work? alcohol
>
> My MOD.
:)
-little miss malice
wico
> Name: wico
> Real name: Ben Millhouse
> E-mail address: figure it out :)
> Web page: well... there's a placeholder at www.quackpipe.net...
> Other newsgroups you frequent: I lurk on alt.cyberpunk.chatsubo
> Length of time on the 'net: since about 96
> Length of time as a net.goth: since about 98
> Place of residence: Collingwood
> But I'd rather live in: Rubacava
>
> APPEARANCE:
> Chromosomal makeup: M
> Age: 25
> Height: tallish
> Weight: skinny
> Hair for this week: short
> Natural hair colour: brown
> Eyes: blue
> Tattoos/Piercings/Scars/Other: nope
> Preferred clothing: smell test
> Your favourite "non-Goth" clothes: as above
> The daggiest thing I ever wore was: does anyone actually read these bits?
>
> LIFESTYLE:
> Occupation: student (see weight)
> But I'd really like to be an: intergalactic space monkey
> When I was ten I wanted to be: in Poison :P
> Number of acg'ers with whom you've been "intimate" (snog & upwards): 0
> Availability status: taken
> Sexual preference: plenty
> Religion: unimportant
> Pets: none
> Your worst habit: err... smoking? Responding to somebody belching really
loudly by saying "you're welcome"?
> Perky/mopey/neither: popey
> I would describe my dancing style as: drunk
> Most of your money gets spent on: rent
> Dietary classification: anything
> Liver: capabale of superhuman feats of endurance
> Hobbies: drinking, smoking, travelling, taking photos, geeking
>
> FAVOURITES:
> Band: too many
> Love song: nah
> Dance-like-a-maniac song: 99 Luftbaloons... I don't dance much nowadays...
> Pub: Tote
> Club: BV
> Book/genre/author/poet: Neverwhere/SciFi/Douglas Adams/err... Blake?
> TV show: Invader Zim
> Actor/actress: for pure eye candy I'll go for Johnny Depp and Miranda Otto
> Movie: Way too many
> Artist/artwork: Dave Mckean
> Animal: Duck!
> Food: Hot pizza followed by cold pizza
> Drink: Scotch
> Texture: never understood this one
> Place to go: everywhere
> Way to go: without a tour guide
>
> MISCELLANY:
> What got you into this whole "goth" thing anyhow? an acute lack of taste ;)
> What do you wear to bed? how cold is it?
> Do you decapitate Jelly Babies and Teddy Bear biscuits before
avoid. As for ursine biscuits named after a notorious ex-repbulican, I find
that jumping under my bed and whimpering is the best defence...
> If we made "ACG - The Movie" - who would play you? an extra
> If one thing could suddenly appear on your desk / fall
unlimited travel on a 747... though I'm probably more likely to get the plane
itself.
> What is your greatest fear? Suddenly waking up eye to eye with a 747
> Your last five holidays were where? WA, Canberra, Canberra, Sydney, Europe
> Which cartoon character are you? Dib
> If someone's hitting on you - what's guaranteed to work? Demonstrated
compliance to the standards set by the Ministry of Silly Walks
> Can you keep a secret? Can't say...
> Who or what is your least favourite thing in the world? printers
> What gives you a warm fuzzy feeling inside? a pint of novacaine and a match
>
> NEW STUFF:
> If you were stranded in a cabin high up in the swiss alps, what three
> things would you want with you? And would you mind the whole experience
shovel. And, hell I'd film it myself :)
> White Michael Jackson or Black Michael Jackson? White... with red streaks
and various implements protruding from his skull...
> If you could have any one super power, what would it be? The ability to
metabolize automotive machinery.
> Anything else you want to say that you don't feel is covered above? Haven't
I said enough?
w. (well that was rather silly)
Kitsune
Greylock wrote:
> Last episode Kitsune <kit...@no.ube.enter.net.au> said:
>
>>Dietary classification: omnivore, though I can do a jabba the hutt
>>impersination
>
>
> You eat frogs?
> Sick, dude.
Yup... cruncy... tastes like snake
Kits, I was actually thinking volume wise.
Kitsune
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Well I guess that answers that... ok so maybe it won't go through that
script anymore....arghhhh
Kits
Sara
Name: Sara
Real name: Sara... no, really
E-mail address: sara_at_vurt.net
Web page: www_dot_labyrinth_dot_net_slash_tilde_elindal_slash
Other newsgroups you frequent: a.g.r, alt.tv.angel,
alt.tv.buffy-v-slayer
Length of time on the 'net: nearly 10 years
Length of time as a net.goth: about 7-8 at a net-not-a-goth :)
Place of residence: Hoppers Xing
But I'd rather live in: spendour
APPEARANCE:
Chromosomal makeup: grrl
Age: 34
Height: 5'2"
Weight: too much
Hair for this week: mousey brown with caramel streaks
Natural hair colour: mousey brown
Eyes: blue-grey
Tattoos/Piercings/Scars/Other: 2 (armband and pheonix on back)/4 (3 in
ears, one not)/too many - including a new one from should surgery last
year/probably
Preferred clothing: comfortable
Your favourite "non-Goth" clothes: baby blue flannel jammies with
stars and moons on them
The daggiest thing I ever wore was: anything my mother bought me :)
I've got the photos :(
LIFESTYLE:
Occupation: Business analyst
But I'd really like to be a: independantly wealthy
When I was ten I wanted to be: a ballerina
Number of acg'ers with whom you've been "intimate" (snog & upwards):
current denizens - none
Availability status: married, but open to negotiations
Sexual preference: not tonight dear, i've got a headache ;P
Religion: agnostic
Pets: overfed and overloved 10 year old silver tabby
Your worst habit: being anally retentive
Perky/mopey/neither: 70% perky/30% mopey
I would describe my dancing style as: endangered
Most of your money gets spent on: life (bills, mortgage, loan
repayments, groceries, etc...) it does how ever mean that most of my
husband's money gets spent on DVDs...
Dietary classification: Omnivore, exculding seafood and strawberries
(alergies)
Liver: never really fancied it, prefer kidneys.
Hobbies: Writing, cross stitch, cooking, reading, Nintendo, eating
chocolate (not so much a hobby as a way of life).
FAVOURITES:
Band: Enigma? the Beautiful South? it changes from minute ot minute
depending on mood.
Love song: Kiss from a Rose - Seal
Dance-like-a-maniac song: Come-on-Eileen - Dexy's Midnight Runners.
I've been known to do physical injury to myself dancing to this song,
it doesn't get much more maniacal than that.
Pub: The beer garden at The Cylde in the early '90s.
Club: Abyss in the mid nineties.
Book/genre/author/poet: Crime fiction mostly, some Cyberpunk, comedy
Sci-Fi, Fantasy. It needs to be engaging - on a "don't put me down"
level.
TV show: The West Wing, Buffy, Angel
Actor/actress: Bruce Willis, Mark Whallenberg, Kenneth Branagh, Kevin
Spacey, Tim Robbins, John Cusak/Reese Witherspoon, Kate Winslett,
Sandra Bullock
Movie: "The Road to Eldorado", though desperately awaiting "Finding
Nemo"
Artist/artwork: too many to pick from - Monet? Vemeer? Gaudi?
Animal: snow leopard
Food: chocolate (it's winter)
Drink: mocha-latte with a shot of kahlua :)
Texture: clean sheets
Place to go: sitting on the edge of a cliff, watching a storm roll in
over Bass Strait
Way to go: in style :)
MISCELLANY:
What got you into this whole "goth" thing anyhow? guilt-by-association
What do you wear to bed? nothing or jammies, dpends on how cold it is
Do you decapitate Jelly Babies and Teddy Bear biscuits before
progressing to other body parts? no
If we made "ACG - The Movie" - who would play you? Gillian Anderson if
she put on some weight
If one thing could suddenly appear on your desk / fall in your lap,
what would you like it to be? 17" PowerBook with Superdrive
What is your greatest fear? Abandonment
Your last five holidays were where? The Windsor hotel or home.
Which cartoon character are you? Chell
If someone's hitting on you - what's guaranteed to work? Sincerity -
and being attractive
Can you keep a secret? Who's asking?
Who or what is your least favourite thing in the world? Hypocracy
What gives you a warm fuzzy feeling inside? Eating toasted plush toys?
NEW STUFF:
If you were stranded in a cabin high up in the swiss alps, what three
things would you want with you? And would you mind the whole
experience being filmed for public viewing? 1. My husband 2. My cat 3.
Chocolate. Hate being filmed, so no cameras.
White Michael Jackson or Black Michael Jackson? Black, at least he
made good music.
If you could have any one super power, what would it be?
Super-digestion, mostly so that I didn't get sick so much.
Sara
> Hobbies: swinging sharp shiny pointy things with pananche,
Hmmm... ever played "Tales of the Floating Vagabond"?
Kitsune
Ummm Sara... its *me*. Of course I have :)
Unfortunately I'm unable to obtain weapons of mass destruction with a
label of "Don't point that thing at my planet"
Kits, fights like a girl
Kitsune
> This turned into a rant on Sheep on Drugs.
> So I renamed the thread.
<snip rant>
> How. 7:05am and my first rant.
If it makes you feel any better, its 9:16am on the east coast. :)
Kits, you need coffee
Unknown
> This turned into a rant on Sheep on Drugs.
> So I renamed the thread.
.
> *taps foot*
>
> Whoever's organising it *really* does need to do some x-press advertising,
> too.
> At the very least.
>
> I mean, no wonder pre-sale tickets aren't doing so well.
>
> I mean, this:
> http://www.dominion.iinet.net.au/sheepondrugs.html
> is where I'm getting my information.
> Outlets TBA.
.
I agree.
I've heard no info at all on the melb gig.
is it really going ahead?
where? when? cost? etc etc ...
where is the advertising?
a few small ads in the street press should be showing up
by now at least? flyers/posters would also help.
there is no build it and they will come if they don't know
its being built.. or something
i need coffee too :\
A*
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>
>Kits, fights like a girl
What ;
Underhandedly, Nastily, and above all, To win?
:)
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Lev Lafayette
> Arrr me hearties. Tis time once more for that ole poll which lets those
> people next door know we're still here. (and still not paying rent)
>
> e-mail to a...@tygger.net as well as posting to acg. You'll also need to
> *keep* the STATS: header - some people cut it. (Hobbes correct me if
> this isn't the case anymore)
OK, Roger that..
> So without further ado... here are the questions.
>
> STATS:
> Name:
Senhor Leonardo dos Lafayette
> Real name:
Lev Lafayette
> E-mail address:
lev_la...@yahoo.com.au
> Web page:
au.geocities.com/lev_lafayette
> Other newsgroups you frequent:
misc.activism.progressive comp.security, aus.politics,
soc.religion.unitarian-univ
> Length of time on the 'net:
Ahem. Sixteen years.
> Length of time as a net.goth:
Ten years (see, I got it right this year B!)
> Place of residence:
The Malae He Know Computer
Kuitaal-Kiik, Santa Cruz, Dili
Next door to the village chief
> But I'd rather live in:
Toronto.
> APPEARANCE:
> Chromosomal makeup:
XY
> Age:
35
> Height:
183cm
> Weight:
ummm.. 80-85kgs
> Hair for this week:
Dark brown.
> Natural hair colour:
Dark brown.
> Eyes:
Still the same! Blue/green/grey, aka 'glas'
> Tattoos/Piercings/Scars/Other:
Left ear, two.
> Preferred clothing:
T-shirt and jeans. I like to dress up by there's not much call for it
here.
> Your favourite "non-Goth" clothes:
Nudity.
> The daggiest thing I ever wore was:
Still the Mac-Errol nerd shirt and the bubble-gum coloured striped
blouse
> LIFESTYLE:
> Occupation:
Systems Administrator, Development Worker.
> But I'd really like to be a:
Systems Administrator, Development Worker. Wow, job satisfaction!
> When I was ten I wanted to be:
A doctor.
> Number of acg'ers with whom you've been "intimate" (snog & upwards):
See previous polls ;-)
> Availability status:
LOL! Sure, you want to come here?!?
> Sexual preference:
Sapiosexual. Preference is for Epicurean athletic types.
> Religion:
A church without a religion. Unitarian.
> Pets:
One cat (Gwendolyn) and one unnamed, but very cheeky, kitten.
> Your worst habit:
Continued optimism that people can actually think things through
rationally and do the right thing. I still intend to stick to it.
> Perky/mopey/neither:
Perky, but prone to grumpy moments.
> I would describe my dancing style as:
I'm a lover, not a dancer.
> Most of your money gets spent on:
Food.
> Dietary classification:
Omnivore.
> Liver:
Unbelievably hardy.
> Hobbies
Roleplaying.
> FAVOURITES:
> Band:
The Clash.
> Love song:
Back to Albinoni's "Adagio in C Minor".
> Dance-like-a-maniac song:
"Dance of the Mad Bastards", Pop Will Eat Itself.
> Pub:
Caz-Bar (even with the crazy monkey)
> Club:
You're kidding, right?
> Book/genre/author/poet:
B: Plato, The Last Days of Socrates (especially Crito).
G: Mythic historical fiction
A: Homer
P: Still probably William Blake.
> TV show:
ABC News, but only because I can't get SBS.
> Actor/actress:
St. Jean Seaberg http://www.saintjean.co.uk/
> Movie:
1900 and Blade Runner are still equal first.
> Artist/artwork:
William Bouguereau, "Le ravissement de Psyche"
> Animal:
Goats are still #1 in this book.
> Food:
I've developed a fondness for grilled fish...
> Drink:
...with chilled Portuguese Vinhu Verde ("Green Wine")
> Texture:
Still love that slippery feeling...
> Place to go:
To be honest, Mozambique is probably the next stop.
> Way to go:
Well plane, I presume.
> MISCELLANY:
> What got you into this whole "goth" thing anyhow?
Transition from mid-80s punk.
> What do you wear to bed?
Nothing.
> Do you decapitate Jelly Babies and Teddy Bear biscuits before
> progressing to other body parts?
Yes.
> If we made "ACG - The Movie" - who would play you?
Kirk Douglas from Spartacus
> If one thing could suddenly appear on your desk / fall
> in your lap, what would you like it to be?
A postdoctoral scholarship! *sob*
> What is your greatest fear?
I've really thought this one over time and time again and have come to
the conclusion that I don't actually have one.
> Your last five holidays were where?
The Indonesia Tour: All over Bali, through east and central Java
(including Yogyakarta and Borobudur), up to Semanrang, west to
Jakarata, south to Carita and Krakatua and then back to Jakarta and
Bali. Phew!
Prior to that a brief weekend away at Mt. Buller. 'Twas nice, that
was.
Prior to that East Timor, but that was work.
Prior to that Sydney, but that was also work.
Prior to that Perth.
> Which cartoon character are you?
Same as last year. Betty Boop.
> If someone's hitting on you - what's guaranteed to work?
Honesty. Nibbling on my ear lobe tends to help as well.
> Can you keep a secret?
Personal ones? Yes. State or corporate ones. Hmmm...
> Who or what is your least favourite thing in the world?
At the moment? George W. Bush. Sorry mate, you are the Great Satan,
there's no doubt about it.
> What gives you a warm fuzzy feeling inside?
Warm fuzzy social solidarity.
> NEW STUFF:
> If you were stranded in a cabin high up in the swiss alps, what three
> things would you want with you? And would you mind the whole experience
> being filmed for public viewing?
Hmmm... I've never be able to decide whether this sort of question
includes people. I mean people are _things_ (i.e., they have a
physical reality), but their physical reality is a modest reason for
desiring their presence.
I'll play safe. No people.
Right, stranded in a cabin in the Swiss Alps. Shit, I better have
plenty of food and drink. And an Internet connection.
Oh, that's three...
Sure, you want to film it? Go ahead.
> White Michael Jackson or Black Michael Jackson?
Let's not go there.
> If you could have any one super power, what would it be?
Telepathy. I tell you, the species needs it to evolve!
> Anything else you want to say that you don't feel is covered above?
Thank you!
Kitsune
Neef wrote:
> On Thu, 15 May 2003 09:15:30 +1000, Kitsune
> <kit...@no.ube.enter.net.au> appeared in the Weekly Word News
> claiming :
>
>>Kits, fights like a girl
>
>
> What ;
> Underhandedly, Nastily, and above all, To win?
> :)
>
Why....
Yes. :)
Y'know the rules of a fight and all that...
1. run
2. if you can't run, hide
3. if you can't hide, stand and fight
4. if you must stand and fight, cheat!
5. once your opponent is down, kick them in the head, *then* run
Kits,
Unknown
> Greylock wrote a rant:
> there is no build it and they will come if they don't know
> its being built.. or something
Yes.
You can't just rely on word of mouth.
Let's face it, Sheep on Drugs are hasbeens (in a sense).
Their time has happened.
To get people to this (expensive) gig, you need to let
Joe Public know.
I checked three weeks of street press this morning.
The gig isn't even listen in the free "coming up" listing
at the rear.
It doesn't get a mention in the venue's regular ad.
It's six weeks out, and I've seen nothing.
Are they even flyering shops?
> i need coffee too :\
Hell YEAH!
But first, I kill IT fuckwits at work.
Lev Lafayette
> > What is your greatest fear?
>
Hey, acg isn't that bad!
n4cat
> "n4cat" wrote
> > > What is your greatest fear?
> >
> > that I'll be stuck here forever
>
> Hey, acg isn't that bad!
*grin*
So many comments so little time.
--
n4cat
"Cry 'Havoc,' and let slip the dogs of war"
Shakespeare, Julius Caesar, Act 3 Scene 1
n4cat
>
> "Greylock" did type:
> > Last episode "little miss malice" said:
> > >> Age: 19
> >
> > No? Really?
>
> this surprises you?
Yes!
> how old did you think i was?
12
;p
> > >> Preferred clothing: shiny. tight. cleavage-friendly
my nose is very cleavage friendly although can be a tad cold
> which part? it all sounds more glamorous than it is-
> the PR gig is POGS and the store manager is a market stall opening up in
> Subi soon (although-custom made boots baby :))
vice president in charge of finger extraction.
> > And to think, somewhere, somehow, sometime, we are naked together...
> > kilometres apart :)
>
> i am thankful for the kilometres apart thing *ducks*
I would be too!
Quite frankly it's almost as disturbing as James Russel, goat and H*ydn
slash.
Neef
>
>Y'know the rules of a fight and all that...
>1. run
>2. if you can't run, hide
>3. if you can't hide, stand and fight
>4. if you must stand and fight, cheat!
>5. once your opponent is down, kick them in the head, *then* run
>
"Dad, remember when Tom had you in that headlock and you screamed "
I'm a hemophiliac!'' and when he let you go,you kicked him in the
back?"
Neef (for every occasion I tells ya!)
little miss malice
"Greylock" <Greylock_NOTT...@vurt.net> wrote in message
news:3ed4ca3b...@news.wn.com.au...
> This turned into a rant on Sheep on Drugs.
> So I renamed the thread.
>
> >> No? Really?
> >this surprises you? how old did you think i was?
>
> you were in high school and on acg.
>
> >> >> Number of acg'ers with whom you've been "intimate" (snog & upwards):
> >>one
> >> Who?
> >what makes you think i will tell you? ;)
>
>
> >> >> Band: DeadCode
> >> Saw them once.
> >him. and where? when? what did you think?
>
> At the Rosemount.
> Can't quite recall. Sure I reviewed it here.
>
> >> What is happening with the Sheep On Drugs thing?
> >pre-sale tickets arent doing too well- it may well be cancelled.
>
> but wouldn't it help telling people WHERE TICKETS ARE ON SALE?
>
> I, for one, have been waiting for the announcement.
> And I, for one, know about 10 people who are waiting to find out the same
> information.
>
> *taps foot*
>
> Whoever's organising it *really* does need to do some x-press advertising,
> too.
> At the very least.
>
> I mean, no wonder pre-sale tickets aren't doing so well.
>
> I mean, this:
> http://www.dominion.iinet.net.au/sheepondrugs.html
> is where I'm getting my information.
> Outlets TBA.
>
> streamlined defence of Baghad
>
> I mean, are they even capable of getting out of bed in the morning?
> Telling left from right?
> Up from down.
I've had a pretty similar rant at people. there are some pissy little flyers
at the haven (the thursday nite thing at the brisbane) but other than that-
i have seen nothing.
-little miss malice
Kitsune
Neef wrote:
> On Thu, 15 May 2003 11:44:47 +1000, Kitsune
> <kit...@no.ube.enter.net.au> appeared in the Weekly Word News
> claiming :
>
>
> "Dad, remember when Tom had you in that headlock and you screamed "
> I'm a hemophiliac!'' and when he let you go,you kicked him in the
> back?"
Exactly.
Now if I could only get those funky shuriken star fish.
Kits, am I the only one who actively condones such behaviour?
n4cat
>
> Neef wrote:
> <snip rules of a fight to the simpsons quote>
> >
> > "Dad, remember when Tom had you in that headlock and you screamed "
> > I'm a hemophiliac!'' and when he let you go,you kicked him in the
> > back?"
>
>
> Exactly.
> Now if I could only get those funky shuriken star fish.
>
>
> Kits, am I the only one who actively condones such behaviour?
Have you seen me floggin' this dead 'orse?
I'm using a bandicoot bludgeon.
Kitsune
> "Kitsune" wrote
<snippage>
>>Kits, am I the only one who actively condones such behaviour?
>
> Have you seen me floggin' this dead 'orse?
>
> I'm using a bandicoot bludgeon.
I thought you charged a hefty admission for that show? ;p
Kits, will be poor once I pay the bills and buy a hdd
n4cat
> n4cat wrote:
> >
> > Have you seen me floggin' this dead 'orse?
> >
> > I'm using a bandicoot bludgeon.
>
> I thought you charged a hefty admission for that show? ;p
Well I didn't but......
now that you've given me the idea.
'rolll up roll up to the greatest shoe on ert'
Kitsune
<snip>
>
> 'rolll up roll up to the greatest shoe on ert'
>
greatest SHOE? SHOE?
honestly people... who watches a shoe?
Unless it has some pretty damn good lightshows and buckles et al.
Kits, at least you're not changing your name to Barnum
Unknown
*snip*
> I've had a pretty similar rant at people.
Obviously they're not listening.
I'm now not buying a pre-sale ticket because,
if I ever find out where they are for sale.
and it has happened before,
if the gig does collapse, they may well claim bankrupcy
and not refund the money.
And I will not lose $40 to incompetence.
> there are some pissy little
> flyers at the haven (the thursday nite thing at the brisbane)
The Haven?
My understanding is that it's one of those places
that isn't astoundingly popular (haven't been),
and is unlikely to be the conduit for the large numbers
of people needed.
> but other than that- i have seen nothing.
No.
I guess it will collapse.
This is one of the reasons I have always
figured folks just don't come to Australia:
a lack of promoters.
This just cements it.
n4cat
> n4cat wrote:
> <snip>
> >
> > 'rolll up roll up to the greatest shoe on ert'
> >
>
> greatest SHOE? SHOE?
maybe I have a shoe fetish?
> honestly people... who watches a shoe?
depends on whose foot it's on.
> Unless it has some pretty damn good lightshows and buckles et al.
boot?
greatest boot on ert?
> Kits, at least you're not changing your name to Barnum
what sort of name would n4Barnum be then?
that's just silly ;p
Octobriana
<kit...@no.ube.enter.net.au> wrote:
| STATS:
Name: Octobriana
Real name: Laura Seabrook
E-mail address: gal...@hunter.apana.org.au
Web page: http://hunter.apana.org.au/~gallae/
Other newsgroups you frequent: aus.sf.startrek, aus.tv.buffy
alt.slack
Length of time on the 'net: 10 years
Length of time as a net.goth: 5 years
Place of residence: Barnsley
But I'd rather live in: castle Gorgenghast
| APPEARANCE:
Chromosomal makeup: XY, modified to XX
Age: 46
Height: too much
Weight: too much
Hair for this week: brown
Natural hair colour: red
Eyes: blue/green
Tattoos/Piercings/Scars/Other: ears only
Preferred clothing: varies, layered looks
Your favourite "non-Goth" clothes:
dog walking gear with tough boots
so I can climb mountains
The daggiest thing I ever wore was:
western style seer-sucker shirt
| LIFESTYLE:
Occupation: Tarot Reader/Artist/Writer/
Student Librarian
But I'd really like to be a: CIA Programmed Hypno Killer
When I was ten I wanted to be: 20
Number of acg'ers with whom
you've been "intimate"
(snog & upwards): Nil - dammit!!!!
Availability status: "takes a lot to get close to me"
(Annie Lennox quote)
Sexual preference: Bi
Religion: Pagan (Gallae of Cybele)
SubGenius (Ordained Minister)
Pets: Pegasus (dog)
Xena & Gabby (cats)
Howard, Mongo, Stincky, Steve
Nicole, Akasha, Inkil + three
unnamed (ducks)
Your worst habit: Procrastination.
Perky/mopey/neither: Depends on the time of the
month.
I would describe my
dancing style as: St.Vitus Dance
Most of your money
gets spent on: Survival (Invalid Pension)
Dietary classification: Omnivore
Liver: Intact
Hobbies Websites, dog walks, dancing,
comics, strange theosophical
ramblings, going off the
deep end (some times)
| FAVOURITES:
Band: The Church, the Cure, Hawkwind
Tea Party
Love song: Golly, what's that?
Dance-like-a-maniac song: Too many to count.
Pub: No.
Club: Necropolis
Book/genre/author/poet: Whatever I'm focussed on at the time.
TV show: Trek, anything by Whedon or MJS
Avengers, Freakylinks, Deadlast
Actor/actress: Depp, Ford, et al.
Movie: The one I'll script.
Artist/artwork: My own.
Animal: Pegasus.
Food: Too much.
Drink: Yes please.
Texture: Latex.
Place to go: Home.
Way to go: Yeah, man!!!
| MISCELLANY:
What got you into this
whole "goth" thing anyhow? A derranged sense of being.
What do you wear to bed? Bed sheets, with pets on top
of covers.
Do you decapitate Jelly
Babies and Teddy Bear biscuits
before progressing to other
body parts? If I'm in the mood.
If we made "ACG - The
Movie" - who would play you? Olympia Dukakis
If one thing could suddenly
appear on your desk / fall
in your lap, what would
you like it to be? a $1,000,000 bank cheque
made out to me
What is your greatest fear? Dying in poverty.
Your last five holidays
were where? Holidays? What's that?
Oh, ok, Phuket then.
Which cartoon character
are you? My own (see local magazine)
If someone's hitting on
you - what's guaranteed
to work? The right spot on the
back of the neck.
Can you keep a secret? Sometimes.
Who or what is your least
favourite thing in the world? Varies
What gives you a warm
fuzzy feeling inside? Stone's Green Ginger
| NEW STUFF:
If you were stranded in a
cabin high up in the swiss
alps, what three things would
you want with you? A net connection & terminal
A good collection of books
Warm clothing
And would you mind the
whole experience being filmed
for public viewing? YES!
White Michael Jackson or
Black Michael Jackson? Black
If you could have any one
super power, what would it be? Teleportation.
Anything else you want
to say that you don't feel
is covered above? No -- I'm sure I'll never
hear the end of what's been
said above.
--
Salutations,
Gothic Gallae ...a.k.a. Laura Seabrook
(ICQ 69677816)
Gothic Site http://hunter.apana.org.au/~gallae/hecate/index.html
Pagan Site http://hunter.apana.org.au/~gallae/pantheon/index.html
James Russell
>Quite frankly it's almost as disturbing as James Russel, goat and H*ydn
>slash. /\/\/\/\/\
You know, if you're going to describe me as disturbing, the least you can do
is spell my name properly... :)
James R.
--
Hot Buttered Death http://hotbuttereddeath.blogspot.com/
Celluloid Dreams: Wednesday, 8pm AEST, 2SER 107.3 FM http://www.2ser.com/
Antti
>Greylock wrote:
>
>> This turned into a rant on Sheep on Drugs.
>> So I renamed the thread.
>.
>> *taps foot*
>>
>> Whoever's organising it *really* does need to do some x-press advertising,
>> too.
>> At the very least.
So any info on Sydney?
I had a look at the board in Red Eye last time I was in Sydney and
there was nothing.
Antti
--
"It's the worst feeling in the world to love a song and then
discover that what they're singing about is lame" - Kristin Hersh
petrolgoth
>"n4cat" wrote:
>
> >Quite frankly it's almost as disturbing as James Russel, goat and H*ydn
> >slash.
/\/\/\/\/\
>
> You know, if you're going to describe me as disturbing, the least you can
do
> is spell my name properly... :)
No worries Mr Russsseeellllll.
I think I put enough 'L's this time. :)
--
n4cat
"I'm not arrogant, I really am better than you"
AGP T-shirt
little miss malice
<GreylockatWork> did type:
> "little miss malice" wrote:
>
> *snip*
>
> > I've had a pretty similar rant at people.
>
> Obviously they're not listening.
>
> I'm now not buying a pre-sale ticket because,
> if I ever find out where they are for sale.
> and it has happened before,
> if the gig does collapse, they may well claim bankrupcy
> and not refund the money.
>
> And I will not lose $40 to incompetence.
my thoughts exactly.
I cant afford to lose that much money.
> > there are some pissy little
> > flyers at the haven (the thursday nite thing at the brisbane)
>
> The Haven?
> My understanding is that it's one of those places
> that isn't astoundingly popular (haven't been),
> and is unlikely to be the conduit for the large numbers
> of people needed.
well- exactly. it needs wider advertising.
> > but other than that- i have seen nothing.
>
> No.
> I guess it will collapse.
>
> This is one of the reasons I have always
> figured folks just don't come to Australia:
> a lack of promoters.
>
> This just cements it.
clearly they need malice's mad skillz.
Dark Star
>
> STATS:
> Name:
Dark Star
> Real name:
[censored]
> E-mail address:
See header
> Web page:
www.geocities.com/spooky_rk
> Other newsgroups you frequent:
None
> Length of time on the 'net:
Since about '95
> Length of time as a net.goth:
A couple of years now ...
> Place of residence:
Petersham, Sydney
> But I'd rather live in:
Newtown, Sydney (two suburbs, 20 minutes walk and $100 extra a week over
that -> way)
>
> APPEARANCE:
> Chromosomal makeup:
Who was it that was shocked that "Dark Star's a girl!!!"?
> Age:
Just turned 30 *sob*
> Height:
Approx 5'7"
> Weight:
Somewhere between 65 and 60 kg and falling (which is *not* a good thing)
> Hair for this week:
Black. I sitll haven't got around to getting those silver extensions
from Doppelganger yet ...
> Natural hair colour:
Brown
> Eyes:
Green
> Tattoos/Piercings/Scars/Other:
No/Ears/Some/???
> Preferred clothing:
Velvet and lace
> Your favourite "non-Goth" clothes:
My comfy house trakkies (still black though)
> The daggiest thing I ever wore was:
I was a child in the seventies, enough said really ...
>
> LIFESTYLE:
> Occupation:
Code-monkey (Server-side Java Programmer)
> But I'd really like to be a:
*Wealthy* code-monkey
> When I was ten I wanted to be:
A lawyer
> Number of acg'ers with whom you've been "intimate" (snog & upwards):
A number somewhere between 0 and infinity.
> Availability status:
Currently available
> Sexual preference:
There are so many lewd replies just *screaming* to be made here, but I
will leave that to others with less restraint.
Oh yeah, I like boi-things
> Religion:
Secular Humanist
> Pets:
None currently
> Your worst habit:
Eh, I have lots ...
> Perky/mopey/neither:
Popey
> I would describe my dancing style as:
Jared the Goblin King's contact juggling ...
> Most of your money gets spent on:
Bills, most of which relate directly to my ability to be able to work
full-time in the first place. It's rather depressing really.
> Dietary classification:
Carnivore - if it ain't bleedin', I ain't eatin'
> Liver:
Lightly fried with onions and bacon and served with a nice gravy thanks
> Hobbies
I think socialising with people on the 'net seems to have filled the
space in my life that others use for hobbies, but I do manage to
squeeze in some reading, and the occasional RPG session
>
> FAVOURITES:
- SNIP - I can't answer most of these
> Animal:
Cats. Big cats especially, but also their smaller cousins. Ravens and
crows.
> Food:
Savoury foods. Meat.
- more snip -
>
> MISCELLANY:
> What got you into this whole "goth" thing anyhow?
If you're interested in the whole (long, but not very sordid) tale, I
recently posted it to my LJ -
http://www.livejournal.com/users/darkstardeity/4508.html
> What do you wear to bed?
Depends on the weather - nothing in summer, trakkie in winter
> Do you decapitate Jelly Babies and Teddy Bear biscuits before
> progressing to other body parts?
Of course. Only sickos torture the poor things by not giving them a
clean painless death ...
> If we made "ACG - The Movie" - who would play you?
I have no idea ...
> If one thing could suddenly appear on your desk / fall
> in your lap, what would you like it to be?
Eh ...
> What is your greatest fear?
Growing old, dying alone.
> Your last five holidays were where?
Um ... Melbourne ... um ... Hallidays Point ... um ...
> Which cartoon character are you?
???
> If someone's hitting on you - what's guaranteed to work?
Nothing's guaranteed, but complementing my eyes gets lots of brownie
points ...
> Can you keep a secret?
Don't tell me one and we'll never need to find out
> Who or what is your least favourite thing in the world?
The whole state of the world at the moment is pretty high on the list
> What gives you a warm fuzzy feeling inside?
Currently, not much ...
>
> NEW STUFF:
> If you were stranded in a cabin high up in the swiss alps, what three
> things would you want with you? And would you mind the whole experience
> being filmed for public viewing?
My 'puter, the stereo attached to it, and an internet connection (at
least 56K). I guess I wouldn't mind, but I can't see how watching me
chat on the net for hours is going to interest anyone ...
> White Michael Jackson or Black Michael Jackson?
Can I chose door 3?
> If you could have any one super power, what would it be?
The ability to remotely alter the behaviour of fuckheads (I'll start
with Dubya and work my way down from there)
> Anything else you want to say that you don't feel is covered above?
Cheers, Big Ears ...
--
Dark Star
We are Goth of Borg. EVERYTHING is futile (Oh ennui! Oh angst!)
stranger..
: STATS:
: Name:
stranger.
: Real name:
darren.
: E-mail address:
strangeratgothdotnet.
: Web page:
www.goth.net/~stranger
: Other newsgroups you frequent:
None.
: Length of time on the 'net:
Since about 1997.
: Length of time as a net.goth:
Since about 1997.
: Place of residence:
Melbourne.
: But I'd rather live in:
The eighties.
: APPEARANCE:
: Chromosomal makeup:
Male thing.
: Age:
Chronogical: 34 Mental: 24.
: Height:
170cm / 5'8".
: Weight:
Don't care.
: Hair for this week:
Bottle blonde, shaved sides like flopped over mohawk thingy.
: Natural hair colour:
Dirty ginger blonde.
: Eyes:
Two.
: Tattoos/Piercings/Scars/Other:
Two tattoos - yin/yang on left arm, ankh & ivy on right
Five earrings - left ear
Miscellaneous scars
: Preferred clothing:
Generally black, somewhere between goth and punk.
: Your favourite "non-Goth" clothes:
What mean you?
: The daggiest thing I ever wore was:
The ponytail i tied my hair in for work when it was long.
: LIFESTYLE:
: Occupation:
"i work for a firm but i want to burn it down".
: But I'd really like to be a:
Firestarter.
: When I was ten I wanted to be:
'A perfect man, who kills'.
: Number of acg'ers with whom you've been "intimate" (snog & upwards):
One.
: Availability status:
Taken.
: Sexual preference:
Sexxy deth chyx.
: Religion:
Used to be agnostic but now i just don't know.
: Pets:
3 felines (regular, large, family size).
: Your worst habit:
Not taking an interest in other people.
: Perky/mopey/neither:
Just can't be happy today.
: I would describe my dancing style as:
Drunkenmaster.
: Most of your money gets spent on:
Rent.
: Dietary classification:
Lacto ovo vego thingo.
: Liver:
Long suffering.
: Hobbies:
Usenet, bands, taekwondo, reading, bar-propping, b-grade movies.
: FAVOURITES:
: Band:
Too many to name, high rotation this week: Misfits and Casino Rumblers.
: Love song:
Blue Ruin - The Cure.
: Dance-like-a-maniac song:
Dramarama - Anything Anything.
: Pub:
Relaxing - Empress, bands - Tote.
: Club:
Don't make it to clubs these days, but would go to Blue Velvet.
: Book/genre/author/poet:
Lord of the Rings / fantasy / Clive Barker / Leonard Cohen.
: TV show:
TV sucks lately, though the Bill still sucks less than most.
: Actor/actress:
Don't really have one.
: Movie:
Plan 9 From Outer Space or Rocky Horror.
: Artist/artwork:
Vali Myers / Salvador Dali / MC Escher / the usual cliches.
: Animal:
Cat.
: Food:
Mexican.
: Drink:
Coffee.
: Texture:
Soft skin.
: Place to go:
Out.
: Way to go:
'i've got my motorcycle jacket but i'm walking all the time'.
: MISCELLANY:
: What got you into this whole "goth" thing anyhow?
Liked the look, eased into the music, felt at home, stayed.
: What do you wear to bed?
Black.
: Do you decapitate Jelly Babies and Teddy Bear biscuits before
: progressing to other body parts?
Usually too busy shoving my own foot in my mouth.
: If we made "ACG - The Movie" - who would play you?
Someone dorky like James van der Beek (sp?).
: If one thing could suddenly appear on your desk / fall
: in your lap, what would you like it to be?
A new job or a social life.
: What is your greatest fear?
"Oh god, i've wasted my life"
: Your last five holidays were where?
Daylesford, UK, Narbethong, Daylesford, Franklinford.
: Which cartoon character are you?
Abe Simpson
: If someone's hitting on you - what's guaranteed to work?
That would be telling.
: Can you keep a secret?
For a while, but eventually have to tell just one person. Just one, okay?
: Who or what is your least favourite thing in the world?
Humanity's seemingly inexhaustible ability to disappoint me more and more.
: What gives you a warm fuzzy feeling inside?
Exceptions to the above.
: NEW STUFF:
: If you were stranded in a cabin high up in the swiss alps, what three
: things would you want with you? And would you mind the whole
: experience being filmed for public viewing?
Umm.. heating, food, tardis. Yes, i would.
: White Michael Jackson or Black Michael Jackson?
There are only shades of grey.
: If you could have any one super power, what would it be?
The ability to be in multiple places at one time.
: Anything else you want to say that you don't feel is covered above?
Probably.
--
stranger..
(tired, so tired)
++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
http://www.goth.net/~stranger
++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
"The moon stands in the shadow
of a world gone entirely mad ." (No)
Kitsune
<snippage>
> : Your favourite "non-Goth" clothes:
> What mean you?
Y'know... the traditional caught in the act clothes... daggy trakkies,
suits... sweaters and cardigans... baggy rapper pants, and corduroy
jackets. :) stuff that probably hasn't lived in your closet for the
last oh... 30 years or so. :P
> : LIFESTYLE:
>
> : Occupation:
> "i work for a firm but i want to burn it down".
>
> : But I'd really like to be a:
> Firestarter.
You want to be Pyro James?
Mind you, isn't his job just something that sounds ideal? (being paid to
be a pyro? who wouldn't do that)
> : Love song:
> Blue Ruin - The Cure.
Ok, call me odd... but which one of those is the title, and which one is
the artist? :p
Kits, Arghhh my brain hurts... and arguing with sword nuts is just eerie
Trayce
rudeness of my replies, but eh. :D
STATS:
Name: Trayce
Real name: Tracy (or Trayce, or Trace)
E-mail address: trace - at - connect dot net dot au
Web page: www.memorygongs.com
Other newsgroups you frequent: none anymore, after the great aus.tv
shitfight of early 2003 I got really put off usenet
Length of time on the 'net: 8 years
Length of time as a net.goth: not sure, but I'm not one anymore, so it
has become a finite number (4 years?)
Place of residence: Melbourne
But I'd rather live in: Melbourne (hey I like it here)
APPEARANCE:
Chromosomal makeup: goil
Age: 32
Height: short
Weight: no idea, less than has been recently
Hair for this week: varying shades of red with blonde fringe
Natural hair colour: fuck knows mixed with grey
Eyes: bleu
Tattoos/Piercings/Scars/Other: 1 nose ring wot needs fixing. No tatts.
I have a scar on my leg from when an ex accidentally kicked my leg
with his disgustingly long toenail and tore a big slice out of my
calf... (charming hey!)
Preferred clothing: jeans, bouncy shoes, wacky tshirts, furry things,
tartan skirts, anything red&black.
Your favourite "non-Goth" clothes: I dont really wear goth clothes, so
moot point there.
The daggiest thing I ever wore was: Everything in the 80s probably
LIFESTYLE:
Occupation: tech admin type thingy person
But I'd really like to be a: writer (well, one wot makes money)
When I was ten I wanted to be: rich
Number of acg'ers with whom you've been "intimate" (snog & upwards):
whatever last years figure was. I dont do goths anymore, sorry ;P
Availability status: depends whos asking (see above) Heart taken, but
currently being sort of put into blender and mooshed about a bit :-/
Sexual preference: bois
Religion: taoist, only philosophically though
Pets: 1 insane cat
Your worst habit: has been getting drunk, but I'm on the wagon at the
moment so heres hoping
Perky/mopey/neither: both, to extremes
I would describe my dancing style as: boingy if the right music is
playing
Most of your money gets spent on: substance abuse, DVDs, taxis
Dietary classification: Is food. Is good.
Liver: still hates me
Hobbies: ranting on online forums, collecting Nick Warren CDs,
strangling animals, golf and masturbating
FAVOURITES:
Band: I can't play favourites!
Love song: too cynical for that shit at present
Dance-like-a-maniac song: am rather taken with the nifty dance remix
of some Coldplay song I've been hearing recently I have to confess.
Otherwise, "Something Good" by Utah Saints
Pub: Pause isnt really a pub... but Pause, and also the Grand and
Hubcap in Richmond, and the Espy always gets my vote
Club: If I was any more over goth clubs, I'd be on another planet.
Have only really gone to Room in Hawthorn recently, and I wont talk
about it, lest H*ydn yell at me.
Book/genre/author/poet: you know, I read so infrequently I cant be
arsed thinking of an answer
TV show: Simpsons, Black Books, Buffy
Actor/actress: Jake and Maggie Gyllenhaal
Movie: Donnie Darko by a mile
Artist/artwork: anything surrealist or metaphysical
Animal: kitties
Food: is good.
Drink: is evil
Texture: skin, silk, velvet
Place to go: out of my head
Way to go: dude
MISCELLANY:
What got you into this whole "goth" thing anyhow? Other people. I
blame other people.
What do you wear to bed? A boy if I can swing it, otherwise a tshirt
;)
Do you decapitate Jelly Babies and Teddy Bear biscuits before
progressing to other body parts? yus
If we made "ACG - The Movie" - who would play you? Maggie Gyllenhaal?
Heh I dont know.
If one thing could suddenly appear on your desk / fall
in your lap, what would you like it to be? They keys to a gorgeous big
house in Prahran I mysteriously inherited all of a sudden
What is your greatest fear? losing people I love
Your last five holidays were where? walhalla, canberra, and ummm
canberra and home I think
Which cartoon character are you? Devi from "I Feel Sick"
If someone's hitting on you - what's guaranteed to work? smartarse
humour, big cracking grin, talk about everything and nothing, AND NO
GODDAMN FREAKY FUCKING BAGGAGE
Can you keep a secret? No, I'm shit at it. You've been warned.
Who or what is your least favourite thing in the world? myself, often.
But seriously...
What gives you a warm fuzzy feeling inside? A cuddle from a certain
person I'm missing the cuddles of rather a lot
NEW STUFF:
If you were stranded in a cabin high up in the swiss alps, what three
things would you want with you? And would you mind the whole
experience being filmed for public viewing?
Endless good food/water, doting adorable guy, kickarse net-connected
PC. And no, the media can bugger orf!
White Michael Jackson or Black Michael Jackson?
Black. The poor lad...
If you could have any one super power, what would it be?
The power to leap small children in a single bound... no, wait...
Anything else you want to say that you don't feel is covered above?
There is a world beyond what you think you know.
Trayce
Spark
*stirs from Lovecraftian depths*
> So without further ado... here are the questions.
>
> STATS:
> Name:
Spark, spark_au, hiraedd all depending
> Real name:
Louis
> E-mail address:
> Web page:
http://www.livejournal.com/userinfo.bml?user=spark_au is more relevant
these days.
> Length of time on the 'net:
mid '90s
> Place of residence:
El Hotello Del Gorro in Fitzroy
> But I'd rather live in:
I hear Barbados is nice this time of year.
>
> APPEARANCE:
> Chromosomal makeup:
boy with a dash of girl
> Age:
27
> Height:
186
> Weight:
75kg
> Hair for this week:
Shoulder length, dishevelled, black with 2 inch long blonde roots.
> Natural hair colour:
Elvis blonde.
> Eyes:
Mystery blue, apparently.
> Tattoos/Piercings/Scars/Other:
Faded out ear piercings, occaisional scars.
> Preferred clothing:
Leather jacket, SWAT pants, sleeveless t shirts, occaisional skirts
and PVC
> Your favourite "non-Goth" clothes:
Um. even my tracksuit pants are goth.
> The daggiest thing I ever wore was:
Powder blue 70's suit. And even then I got told I looked like Nick
Cave, sans 'local' nose.
>
> LIFESTYLE:
> Occupation:
Operations Manager. Minion Overseer. Bold and fearless leader of a
pack of truck drivers.
> But I'd really like to be a:
Dr Who companion. Mad scientist. Helicopter pilot. Rampantly
glamourous movie star. Drunken author.
> When I was ten I wanted to be:
Computer programmer :P
> Number of acg'ers with whom you've been "intimate" (snog & upwards):
The number can only be defined as being anything but itself.
> Availability status:
single.
> Sexual preference:
Witty. Well spoken. Broadly read. The occaisional blonde with big tits
doesn't go astray either.
> Religion:
Science.
> Pets:
Andre, my personal martini mixer and bevie bringer.
> Your worst habit:
"controlled messiness"
> Perky/mopey/neither:
A little of column a, a little of column b.
> I would describe my dancing style as:
Kraftwerk.
> Most of your money gets spent on:
Beer. Cigarettes. Coffee. Books. Tech stuff. Boots.
> Dietary classification:
Rampant carnivore.
> Liver:
Scared. Beaten weekly.
> Hobbies
reading, coffee, reading, computers, reading, talking loudly about
music, reading, long conversations with cats, reading, plotting world
domination, reading, sleeping
>
> FAVOURITES:
> Band:
Bizillians. This week I have been mostly listening to Needlesharing,
Bigod 20 and Fleshfield.
> Love song:
Anything, Anything by Dramarama and, oddly enough, Nemisis by
Shriekback
> Pub:
Builders Arms, Blue Velvet, Meyers Place
> Club:
Blue Velvet, Golgotha
> Book/genre/author/poet:
foucault's pendulum/varied/kurt vonnegut/gwen harwood
> TV show:
Farscape.
> Animal:
Feline.
> Food:
Junk.
> Drink:
gin, beer, that sort of thing
> Texture:
satin, skin
> Place to go:
Far.
> Way to go:
Millenium Falcon. Car, if that isn't available.
>
> MISCELLANY:
> What got you into this whole "goth" thing anyhow?
The chicks are pretty and have low self esteem, if you know what I
mean, mate.
> What do you wear to bed?
nothing.
> Do you decapitate Jelly Babies and Teddy Bear biscuits before
> progressing to other body parts?
Yes. Yes, I do.
> If we made "ACG - The Movie" - who would play you?
Me. Bradley Pitt or Uma Thurman.
> If one thing could suddenly appear on your desk / fall
> in your lap, what would you like it to be?
A large wad of cash. A round the world plane ticket.
> What is your greatest fear?
intellectual decline.
> Your last five holidays were where?
Peterborough, driving round NSW, Mt Hotham, UK, Singapore,
> Which cartoon character are you?
Professor Membrane
> If someone's hitting on you - what's guaranteed to work?
Namedropping - Tycho Brahe, Aristarchus, that sort of crowd
> Can you keep a secret?
Yes.
> Who or what is your least favourite thing in the world?
Rampant hypocrisy, self pitying whiners.
> What gives you a warm fuzzy feeling inside?
book, coffee, cigarette at the same time.
>
> NEW STUFF:
> If you were stranded in a cabin high up in the swiss alps, what three
> things would you want with you? And would you mind the whole experience
> being filmed for public viewing?
The Great Library of Alexandria, suscription to Nature, a large rug
> White Michael Jackson or Black Michael Jackson?
Black.
> If you could have any one super power, what would it be?
Ability to stop time.
L.
--
There are no stupid questions, but a lot of inquisitve idiots.
Kitsune
> Length of time as a net.goth: not sure, but I'm not one anymore, so it
> has become a finite number (4 years?)
Yup, now your a not-a-net.goth :p
> The daggiest thing I ever wore was: Everything in the 80s probably
I dunno... you have a really cute photo that was definitely taken in the
80's. And if it wasn't so wrong... I'd have said "PHWOOOAAR!"
> Hobbies: ranting on online forums, collecting Nick Warren CDs,
> strangling animals, golf and masturbating
HEY! you're supposed to not mislead people here...
you don't play golf!
> Club: If I was any more over goth clubs, I'd be on another planet.
Ummm it could be *any* club... my favourite club is called MrEasten.
you club round bits of leather wound tightly over a ball made of string
with a rubber core. Very useful in a brawl... and cause its not
metal... something that doesn't set off metal detectors. :)
> Way to go: dude
you don't have a car... :)
> MISCELLANY:
> What got you into this whole "goth" thing anyhow? Other people. I
> blame other people.
So long as you don't blame me. ;)
> What do you wear to bed? A boy if I can swing it, otherwise a tshirt
> ;)
no its the other way round... bois wear you. Unless for some reason
you're using that strap-on you got all those years ago... ;P
> White Michael Jackson or Black Michael Jackson?
> Black. The poor lad...
Did I tell you about my Michael Jackson theory... if not... you should
ask me next time I'm drinking.
> The power to leap small children in a single bound... no, wait...
We used to do that when I was in high school. :)
> There is a world beyond what you think you know.
Yup, but the matrix ain't real.
Kits, teehee...no secrets for you!
Richard
kit...@no.ube.enter.net.au says...
> Arrr me hearties. Tis time once more for that ole poll which lets those
> people next door know we're still here. (and still not paying rent)
>
> The last time we did this was almost a year ago (no, don't check in
> google) So I think its time for a much needed update.
>
> Just remember, if you do want this to go up on the acg site, please
> e-mail to a...@tygger.net as well as posting to acg. You'll also need to
> *keep* the STATS: header - some people cut it. (Hobbes correct me if
> this isn't the case anymore)
>
> So without further ado... here are the questions.
STATS:
Name: Richard
Real name: Richard
E-mail address: richardh_at_mira_dot_net
Web page: none
Other newsgroups you frequent:
Length of time on the 'net: circa1990
Length of time as a net.goth: not
Place of residence: Brunswick West
But I'd rather live in: it's OK
APPEARANCE:
Chromosomal makeup: male
Age: old (49)
Height: 5ft 6in (circa 170cm)
Weight: heavier than I'd like
Hair for this week: silver/grey, what's left of it
Natural hair colour: see above
Eyes: two
Tattoos/Piercings/Scars/Other:3-neo tribal on chest, neo tribal with
sacred heart started on back, red and blue roses on left upper arm/9
- 5 left ear-4 lobe, 1 cartlidge, 4 right ear, all lobe/assorted
childhood indiscretions/ -
Preferred clothing: comfortable
Your favourite "non-Goth" clothes: not a goth
The daggiest thing I ever wore was: toga at a secondary school play
LIFESTYLE:
Occupation: tech support for a fed gov department
But I'd really like to be a: comfortably well off and a person of
leisure
When I was ten I wanted to be: an air force pilot
Number of acg'ers with whom you've been "intimate" (snog & upwards):
none
Availability status: available
Sexual preference: female
Religion: good question, next
Pets: none
Your worst habit: talking to myself … and expecting answers
Perky/mopey/neither: neither
I would describe my dancing style as: clumsy at best
Most of your money gets spent on: living, books, dvds, alcohol
Dietary classification: omnivore, with a carnivore predilection
Liver: still there and relatively healthy
Hobbies: reading, mucking around on the 'net, mucking around on the
computer, model aircraft (although this has been sadly neglected in
recent years), movies, watching tv series on dvd
FAVOURITES:
Band:
Love song:
Dance-like-a-maniac song:
Pub:
Club:
Book/genre/author/poet: The Beast Master-Andre Norton/Science
Fiction/this changes, but currently - L.E. Modesitt Jr/none
TV show: Babylon 5, Farscape, Buffy, Angel
Actor/actress:
Movie: Forbidden Planet
Artist/artwork:
Animal:
Food: edible, tasty and preferably meat based
Drink: coffee, Baileys, Vodka
Texture: satin smooth
Place to go:
Way to go:
MISCELLANY:
What got you into this whole "goth" thing anyhow?: not a goth but
you people dress so beautifully
What do you wear to bed?: nothing
Do you decapitate Jelly Babies and Teddy Bear biscuits before
progressing to other body parts? yep
If we made "ACG - The Movie" - who would play you?
If one thing could suddenly appear on your desk / fall
in your lap, what would you like it to be? Lots of spendable money
What is your greatest fear? Loosing my sight
Your last five holidays were where? Walhalla, home, home,home,home
Which cartoon character are you?
If someone's hitting on you - what's guaranteed to work?
Can you keep a secret? yep
Who or what is your least favourite thing in the world?
What gives you a warm fuzzy feeling inside?
NEW STUFF:
If you were stranded in a cabin high up in the swiss alps, what three
things would you want with you? And would you mind the whole
experience being filmed for public viewing? Lots of books, good
tasty food and good drink to wash it down with. No.
White Michael Jackson or Black Michael Jackson? Black
If you could have any one super power, what would it be? regeneration
Anything else you want to say that you don't feel is covered above?
No
--
Richard
+++Divide by cucumber error.Reinsert universe and reboot"
Terry Pratchett author of the DiscWorld series
jay
>kit...@no.ube.enter.net.au says...
>> Arrr me hearties. Tis time once more for that ole poll which lets those
>> people next door know we're still here. (and still not paying rent)
>>
>> The last time we did this was almost a year ago (no, don't check in
>> google) So I think its time for a much needed update.
>>
>> Just remember, if you do want this to go up on the acg site, please
>> e-mail to a...@tygger.net as well as posting to acg. You'll also need to
>> *keep* the STATS: header - some people cut it. (Hobbes correct me if
>> this isn't the case anymore)
>>
>> So without further ado... here are the questions.
>
>STATS:
>Real name: Jason
>E-mail address: slowli...@aol.com [for the moment; i'm thinking of getting
a new one due to aol spam overload]
>Web page: none
>Other newsgroups you frequent: Sometimes I go to the cricket one and the
industrial music one, but mainly this one. I used to read aus.politics until I
realised it'd be more fulfilling to jam my testicles in a drawer.
>Length of time on the 'net: About 1999? that's a bit of a guess
>Length of time as a net.goth: Since about mid 2000? Again, a guess
>Place of residence: Charnwood, ACT
>But I'd rather live in: Here's fine ... perhaps a bit closer to Canberra
would be nice, but I'm not complaining
>
>APPEARANCE:
>Chromosomal makeup: male
>Age: 30
>Height: about 175cms
>Weight: about 75 kgs, I think, but it's been ages since I checked
>Hair for this week: dyed blonde
>Natural hair colour: mousey brown
>Eyes: four if you count my glasses
>Tattoos/Piercings/Scars/Other: one piercing, not worth writing home about ...
>Preferred clothing: layered black t-shirts, usually, sometimes with a bit
of red or orange. stripy socks in the summer, and i love my boots to death.
>Your favourite "non-Goth" clothes: anything loose-fitting
>The daggiest thing I ever wore was: I play cricket in the summer. Every time
I walk onto the field, I'm wearing white from head to toe. That's pretty daggy.
>
>LIFESTYLE:
>Occupation: professional number cruncher in the grip of that nice Mr Costello
>But I'd really like to be a: pornstar
>When I was ten I wanted to be: i can't remember; probably a professional
sportsman
>Number of acg'ers with whom you've been "intimate" (snog & upwards):
>Availability status: married
>Sexual preference: ummmmm... i'm not ruling anything out ...
>Religion: card carrying agnostic
>Pets: a white dwarf rabbit who tries to eat all my cables
>Your worst habit: biting my nails, which is still sometimes do, despite the
bout of blood poisoning a few years back [yes, i'm fucking stupid]
>Perky/mopey/neither: perk with just a dash of mope
>I would describe my dancing style as: washing machine on spin
>Most of your money gets spent on: mortgage, beer and music
>Dietary classification: meat eater, but am slowly weaning myself off
>Liver: hello down there ... drinkypoos for nice liver ...
>Hobbies: music [listening, watching, making], community radio, reading about
australian political history while sipping on a refreshing ale
>
>FAVOURITES:
>Band: my bloody valentine, flying saucer attack, medicine, mogwai ... you get
the picture
>Love song: 'anytime anyplace anywhere' by carter ... no, not really
>Dance-like-a-maniac song: 'prostitute' by neuroticfish
>Pub: fuck, i miss sydney pubs :o( probably the wig and pen, which brews
their own beer ... yum
>Club: canberra - lithium; sydney - vortex
>Book/genre/author/poet: i will devour just about anything to do with
australian political history [i get lost in goulds bookshop on king st every
time i go to sydney]
>Fiction: i quite liked 'the music of razors' ... it took me long enough to get
around to buying it! but i don't really read all that much fiction, unless you
count american foreign policy
>TV show: Life Support, Simpsons ... I don't watch very much teev
>Actor/actress: You know, I don't really have one
>Movie: Baraka
>Artist/artwork: At the moment, it'd be the sound art installation that was
installed in the atrium of my building at work - it's 33 minutes of sound
describing the life cycle of a water droplet and it's fucking awesome
>Animal: giraffe
>Food: vietnamese beef noodle soup [i am trying to cut back on meat, but i'll
_really_ miss this]
>Drink: water ... or beer or cider
>Texture: i'm quite lumpy, actually
>Place to go: Sydney. I seem to be there every fucking second week lately [and
it always seems to be a weekend when Vortex isn't on]. Not that I'm bitter or
anything... but if I keep going up so often I'm going to quickly get sick of
the travel.
>Way to go: Slowly.
>
>MISCELLANY:
>What got you into this whole "goth" thing anyhow?: a girlfriend, years ago.
>What do you wear to bed?: layered t-shirts in winter, but never anything
below the belt
>Do you decapitate Jelly Babies and Teddy Bear biscuits before
>If we made "ACG - The Movie" - who would play you? Eddie McGuire
>If one thing could suddenly appear on your desk / fall
and not think I was about to die.
>What is your greatest fear? See above - dying in an aircraft accident
>Your last five holidays were where? A no-brainer. Sydney x5.
>Which cartoon character are you? Smithers. No, wait ... umm ...
>If someone's hitting on you - what's guaranteed to work? Telling me that
they're hitting on me. I won't get the message any other way, I think I'm too
shy that way...
>Can you keep a secret? yep - otherwise i'd probably be unemployed
>Who or what is your least favourite thing in the world? The entire Coalition
front bench, and the Ayn Rand Institute.
>What gives you a warm fuzzy feeling inside? Hugs from nice people.
>
>NEW STUFF:
>If you were stranded in a cabin high up in the swiss alps, what three
>things would you want with you? And would you mind the whole
starters...
>White Michael Jackson or Black Michael Jackson? Green. No: blue.
>If you could have any one super power, what would it be? Don't know, to be
honest ... I don't think I'd like that sort of power over other people.
>Anything else you want to say that you don't feel is covered above?
jay
____________
'S.I.N.G.E.D.' [synthpop.industrial.noise.gothic.electronica.darkwave]
2XX; 98.3fm; Canberra
Saturdays 7-8pm
Dillon Burke
Name: Dillon
Real name: Dr Dillon Shiel Burke, BA. MA (hons) Ph.D, Esquire.
E-mail address: -
Web page: -
Other newsgroups you frequent: rec.games.frp.misc, rec.org.sca
Length of time on the 'net: Since late '93.
Length of time as a net.goth: Got one of those "Necro Ad Nauseum"
t-shirts in 1993 or 1994.
Place of residence: Brooklyn, Wellington, New Zealand
But I'd rather live in: Aro St, Wellington, New Zealand
APPEARANCE:
Chromosomal makeup: Boy
Age: 32 years 13 days
Height: 5'11"
Weight: 80 kg
Hair for this week: Balding, keep a #1 cut now
Natural hair colour: Brown
Eyes: Blue-grey
Tattoos/Piercings/Scars/Other: Ears pierced, yet to find a local
tatooist anyone will recommend
Preferred clothing: boots, black jeans, t-shirt, black jersey
Your favourite "non-Goth" clothes: suit I wear to work
The daggiest thing I ever wore was: lime green pants and a pink shirt
LIFESTYLE:
Occupation: Policy Analyst, Policy/Strategy Unit, Knowledge Services
Division, New Zealand Qualifications Authority.
But I'd really like to be a: Game designer.
When I was ten I wanted to be: cannon fodder in the service of the
Queen.
Number of acg'ers with whom you've been "intimate" (snog & upwards): 0
Availability status: single
Sexual preference: hetro.
Religion: New Church of the Great Old Ones (last 3 census forms)
Pets: Nope. Prefer cats.
Your worst habit: monomoniacal tendancies
Perky/mopey/neither: neither
I would describe my dancing style as: erratic
Most of your money gets spent on: Debt payments.
Dietary classification: Flesh is good
Liver: coping nicely thank you
Hobbies: extremely complicated strategy games, military history,
strategic theory, counterfactual analysis.
FAVOURITES:
Band: Joy Division
Love song: Adam Ant - Desperate Not Serious
Dance-like-a-maniac song: Darkest of the Hillside Thickets - Big Robot
Dinosaur
Pub: Bodega
Club: Indigo
Book/genre/author/poet: Shelley
TV show: Don't watch TV
Actor/actress: Sir Ian McKellan
Movie: The Princess Bride
Artist/artwork: Tower of Babel by Pieter Brueghel the Elder (1515-69)
Animal: Spiders.
Food: Rice surprise with Tuna, ginger and chillies.
Drink: Brown Brothers Muscat
Texture: Straw
Place to go: A library
Way to go: Walking
MISCELLANY:
What got you into this whole "goth" thing anyhow? Friend loaned me a
copy of Gothic Rock Vol I in mid-1993.
What do you wear to bed? Old band t-shirts.
Do you decapitate Jelly Babies and Teddy Bear biscuits before
progressing to other body parts? Yes.
If we made "ACG - The Movie" - who would play you? The cavalry.
If one thing could suddenly appear on your desk / fall
in your lap, what would you like it to be? An ouitfit for the "cowboys
and angels" party I'm throwing on the 24th
What is your greatest fear? Being trapped in a confined space with
water coming in. I *hate* Titanic movies.
Your last five holidays were where? Yass/Sydney, Christchurch, Sydney,
Christchurch, Melbourne.
Which cartoon character are you? Muttley
If someone's hitting on you - what's guaranteed to work? Persistence
Can you keep a secret? Yes.
Who or what is your least favourite thing in the world? Fraudsters.
What gives you a warm fuzzy feeling inside? Good whisky
NEW STUFF:
If you were stranded in a cabin high up in the swiss alps, what three
things would you want with you? Food/water, paper, scribing
instruments. And would you mind the whole experience being filmed for
public viewing? Probably.
White Michael Jackson or Black Michael Jackson? Neither.
If you could have any one super power, what would it be? Detect Truth.
Anything else you want to say that you don't feel is covered above?
Vae puto deus fio.
--
If you're so goth, where
were you when we sacked Rome?
Ground Under Productions
> I've heard no info at all on the melb gig.
> is it really going ahead?
> where? when? cost? etc etc ...
*cough cough* about some rant I had a few months ago about promoters...
I think I actually had Sheep On Drugs in mind at the time...
but anyway... you know somethings wrong when the SAME CIRCLE OF PEOPLE
YOU BARELY NEED TO ADVERTISE TO ANYWAY [BUT USUALLY RESORT TO IT BEING
THE ONLY PEOPLE YOU DO ADVERTISE TO] DON'T EVEN KNOW WHATS GOING ON.
Sorry for the caps, but it makes me mad... very mad... and not just an
Australian thing, I got an angry email about a fairly top
scene-promoter-label chap in the UK barely hearing about Ikon playing
and he was very excited to hear about even that.
> where is the advertising?
> a few small ads in the street press should be showing up
> by now at least? flyers/posters would also help.
They need distribution, coverage... and promotion... you don't go near
an international "tour" without spending a bare bones minimum of $10,000
on promotion... even in Australia...
Ah I'm about to cry...
On the other hand.... Stark will very likely be coming to Melbourne for
a gig or two early July! [Yay!!!]
- jarod
--
goth-industrial-electronic
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> if I ever find out where they are for sale.
> and it has happened before,
> if the gig does collapse, they may well claim bankrupcy
> and not refund the money.
Self-made promoter's tickets are a fuck'n joke.... go to Ticketec or
Ticketmaster7 if you are going to sell tickets...
don't rant and rave about a tour not going ahead because there wasn't
enough pre-sales to pay for the flight over either. ... IT DOESN"T WORK
THAT WAY.
I have a couple of good friends who are very die hard Sheep On Drugs
fans who refuse to go because it's not the same singer who effectively
made up the Sheep On Drugs attitude. And following the no promotion, no
distribution, no DJ support, no radio support, no magazine advertising,
no street press media releases....
What the fuck are these people thinking ? You need at least 30 - 40
THOUSAND dollars [AUD] to even half heartedly pull of an international
band coming to Australia with a bare bones 6 months notice and
advertising.
Wasn't this thing meant to happen in June ?
> And I will not lose $40 to incompetence.
Definately not.
> This is one of the reasons I have always
> figured folks just don't come to Australia:
> a lack of promoters.
There is that, but also a lack of people overseas understanding how
smalll the Australian market is [I've had to explain far to many times
that just because we are the same land mass as America doesn't mean we
have 300 Million people... in fact, we have 1/15th of that. And
European bands struggle to tour the states. Now isn't that a fucken
sign ?
Also, the money that's need to put into a tour to Australia for it to be
successful, is way more than most people will get back with teh
goth/industrial scene... so professional tour bookers and companies
won't touch this music even if they had heard of the genre.
Ground Under Productions
And then some...
> Seriously, if I was a promoter, I'd at least flyer a lot, make sure my gig
> was placed in the free section of the street press, and even insert teaser
> adverts six weeks out.
And that's just the bare minimum of what needs to be done.
> But I'm not a promoter, so what would I know?
More than an Australian promoter obviously.
- jarod
PS - Hate to say it but... "I told 'em so" having had long email
conversations with people in the UK and England about the tour, who's
doing it and why.
Unknown
> I have a couple of good friends who are very die hard Sheep On Drugs
> fans who refuse to go because it's not the same singer who
> effectively made up the Sheep On Drugs attitude.
I can understand that attitude, but it's a bit silly
in another sense.
I mean, it's like refusing to go see The Damned because
Brian James wasn't in the band, or Skinny Puppy because
Bill Leeb and Dwayne the Dead Guy aren't in it.
> And following the no promotion, no
> distribution, no DJ support, no radio support, no magazine
> advertising,
> no street press media releases....
So, jarod, what do you know?
As basically Australia's only specialist publisher in this area,
I'd think they'd at least have contacted you...
> Wasn't this thing meant to happen in June ?
July 5 in Perth.
Ground Under Productions
>
> Ground Under Productions wrote:
> > I have a couple of good friends who are very die hard Sheep On Drugs
> > fans who refuse to go because it's not the same singer who
> > effectively made up the Sheep On Drugs attitude.
>
> I can understand that attitude, but it's a bit silly
> in another sense.
> I mean, it's like refusing to go see The Damned because
> Brian James wasn't in the band, or Skinny Puppy because
> Bill Leeb and Dwayne the Dead Guy aren't in it.
A band completely changes when you change the vocalist... only in rare
cases where the vocalists identity doesn't matter [such as Skinny
Puppy], but Faith No More and AC/DC changed a lot and lost a lot of fans
[but gained a lot of different ones] when changing vocalists...
Sheep On Drugs was a band with a big attitude and most of that attitude
came from the singer... so I think it makes a big difference... also in
Australia the change of singer isn't all that well known so a lot of
fans who go to see them will be pissed off... even if the new singer is
better, it's not the SAME singer and that makes a difference.
> > And following the no promotion, no
> > distribution, no DJ support, no radio support, no magazine
> > advertising,
> > no street press media releases....
>
> So, jarod, what do you know?
> As basically Australia's only specialist publisher in this area,
> I'd think they'd at least have contacted you...
You would think so wouldn't you ? If they had contacted us [GUP and
Goth Nation] we could have done a lot to push and promote this tour [CD
distribution and magazine interviews just for starters...]
And even though I had talked to some of the people involved in running
it they've never bought any of this stuff up, and I'm too busy to chase
them up for it, and it's not like they would be doing me the favour of
any sort...
> > Wasn't this thing meant to happen in June ?
>
> July 5 in Perth.
Still way to close to start promoting now even if they did get their
fingers out of their arses... I wouldn't be surprised one little bit if
the tour got cancelled...
The only reason why I haven't bought over any bands is because I don't
have the money, otherwise we could have seen tours from some of the
bigger goth/industrial bands... although Sheep On Drugs wouldn't have
been one of them because they aren't big profile.
Unknown
> GreylockatWork wrote:
> A band completely changes when you change the vocalist... only in >rare cases where the vocalists identity doesn't matter [such as
> the new singer is better, it's not the SAME singer and that makes a > difference.
I guess. I don't know a great deal about SoD,
so it doesn't bother me.
> Still way to close to start promoting now even if they did get their
> fingers out of their arses... I wouldn't be surprised one little
> bit if the tour got cancelled...
I think it's *almost* a foregone conclusion.
Ah, well.
Matthew
Name: Matthew
Real name: Matthew
E-mail address: the_indie...@yahoo.com.au
Web page: none as yet
Other newsgroups you frequent: aus.music
Length of time on the 'net: Early '95
Length of time as a net.goth: A year or so
Place of residence: Blue Mountains, NSW
But I'd rather live in: Ireland, UK or Norway
APPEARANCE:
Chromosomal makeup: Male
Age: 14
Height: 16? cm
Weight: I don't know
Hair for this week: Red
Natural hair colour: Auburn
Eyes: Brown
Tattoos/Piercings/Scars/Other: None
Preferred clothing: Black, Black and um.... BLACK!
Your favourite "non-Goth" clothes: Band T-Shirts
The daggiest thing I ever wore was: Everything I wear is daggy!
LIFESTYLE:
Occupation: Student
But I'd really like to be a: Music Journalist
When I was ten I wanted to be: Lawyer
Number of acg'ers with whom you've been "intimate" (snog & upwards): 0
Sexual preference: Hetrosexual
Religion: (Loosely) Wiccan
Pets: Cat
Your worst habit: Everything!
Perky/mopey/neither: Both, at the same time.
I would describe my dancing style as: fucked
Most of your money gets spent on: CDs, Music Merchandise, anything
Musical, Drugs.
Dietary classification: Food.
Liver: wtf?
Hobbies: Music, friends
FAVOURITES:
Band: Too many of many genres to mention, but my favourite Gothic
bands are Type O Negative, Alien Sex Fiend and The Cure.
Love song: Love you to death by TON
Dance-like-a-maniac song: Temple of Love by SoM
Pub: Too young to get in. Fucking underage drinking laws!
Club: See above.
Book/genre/author/poet: Mostly Horror. Anne Rice, Stephen King and
Robert Bloch are my favs.
TV show: At Home with the Braithwaites, South Park, The Bill.
Actor/actress: Christopher Lee (circa-Hammer times)
Movie: Horror and some Sci-Fi/Fantasy. The Crow, Psycho and The Curse
of Frankenstien are all great films. Oh! and I love Hitchcock and
Hammer films.
Artist/artwork: Sorry, I'm pretty ignorant artwise.
Animal: CAT!!!
Food: Fish
Drink: Tea, Hot Chocolate, Coffee, Diet Coke. As for alcohol, you
can't go past Red Wine or Champagne.
Texture: wtf?
Place to go: The Cemetary, especially recommended if wagging school.
There is not a more beautiful place in the world!
Way to go: Walk or get a lift.
MISCELLANY:
What got you into this whole "goth" thing anyhow? Music mostly, but I
guess I've always found darkness beautiful.
What do you wear to bed? Boxers.
Do you decapitate Jelly Babies and Teddy Bear biscuits before
If we made "ACG - The Movie" - who would play you? The young, annoying
guy.
If one thing could suddenly appear on your desk / fall in your lap,
the fall.
What is your greatest fear? BUGS!
Your last five holidays were where? Queensland, Kangaroo Island, South
Australia, Wellington, Victoria.
Which cartoon character are you? Felix the Cat!
If someone's hitting on you - what's guaranteed to work? Music, Dark
Spirituality or Casting a spell. I don't know why, but I find the
latter sooooo sexy.
Can you keep a secret? Yes, actually, probably not.
Who or what is your least favourite thing in the world? George W. Bush
with John W. Howard running a close second.
What gives you a warm fuzzy feeling inside? Drugs.
NEW STUFF:
If you were stranded in a cabin high up in the swiss alps, what three
experience being filmed for public viewing? Three things, Stereo, CD
Collection and Candles
White Michael Jackson or Black Michael Jackson? I really hate Michael
Jackson, but if I had to choose, Black.
If you could have any one super power, what would it be? I wouldn't
want one.
Anything else you want to say that you don't feel is covered above?
That's all!
Lactose Intolerant Cat
> Arrr me hearties. Tis time once more for that ole poll which lets those
> people next door know we're still here. (and still not paying rent)
>
> The last time we did this was almost a year ago (no, don't check in
> google) So I think its time for a much needed update.
>
> Just remember, if you do want this to go up on the acg site, please
> e-mail to a...@tygger.net as well as posting to acg. You'll also need to
> *keep* the STATS: header - some people cut it. (Hobbes correct me if
> this isn't the case anymore)
>
> So without further ado... here are the questions.
>
> STATS:
> Real name: Tim
> E-mail address: i_ho...@jesusanswers.com
> Web page: bah
> Other newsgroups you frequent: rec.music.industrial
> Length of time on the 'net: since '95
> Length of time as a net.goth: 1 yrs
> Place of residence: Canberra
> But I'd rather live in: My own chunk of the planet
>
> APPEARANCE:
> Chromosomal makeup: blokeish
> Age: 27.85
> Height: 180.5 cm
> Weight: 100 kg
> Hair for this week: bald
> Natural hair colour: blonde/brown
> Eyes: green/grey/blue
> Tattoos/Piercings/Scars/Other: four piercings, three tattoos, and various
scars.
> Preferred clothing: black, baggy comfortable
> Your favourite "non-Goth" clothes: black, baggy comfortable
> The daggiest thing I ever wore was: cyrano de bergerac costume for a book
parade in year six (no one knew who he was....)
>
> LIFESTYLE:
> Occupation: IT
> But I'd really like to be a: IT cat
> When I was ten I wanted to be: archeologist
> Number of acg'ers with whom you've been "intimate" (snog & upwards): bah
(0)
> Availability status: single
> Sexual preference: cyber chicks (did i really just type that)????
> Religion: *yawns*
> Pets: just lost a fish, but a cat person at heart
> Your worst habit: self criticism (and bad spelling)
> Perky/mopey/neither: a combination of both with a liberal dash of the
manic thrown in for style
> I would describe my dancing style as: non existant
> Most of your money gets spent on: stuff
> Dietary classification: see above
> Liver: I've heard of it but not sure that mine makes the grade.
> Hobbies geeking, film (making, viewing) books, art, music. stuuf..
>
> FAVOURITES:
> Band: not possible to fit them all in.
> Love song: Love My Way, Assemblage 23
> Dance-like-a-maniac song: skinny puppy smothered hope
> Pub: toast
> Club: ...
> Book/genre/author/poet: this is almost as hard as the fav band bit...
> TV show: red dwarf
> Actor/actress: kevin spacey, daria nicolodi
> Movie: suspiria (or anything with zombies w00t)
> Artist/artwork: phew
> Animal: big cats
> Food: yes
> Drink: please more (see liver comment)
> Texture: bumpy
> Place to go: Germany
> Way to go: Loudly
>
> MISCELLANY:
> What got you into this whole "goth" thing anyhow? not sure, probably just
a preference for wearing black
> What do you wear to bed? tshirt and shorts
> Do you decapitate Jelly Babies and Teddy Bear biscuits before
> If we made "ACG - The Movie" - who would play you? A coffee pot
> If one thing could suddenly appear on your desk / fall
gear (and stuff)
> What is your greatest fear? going outside
> Your last five holidays were where? perth sydney and so on
> Which cartoon character are you? lain
> If someone's hitting on you - what's guaranteed to work? telling from the
git go, I jist cant get the subtle thang
> Can you keep a secret? yes
> Who or what is your least favourite thing in the world? my neighbours
> What gives you a warm fuzzy feeling inside? sweet people, purty chicks,
and helping people
>
> NEW STUFF:
> If you were stranded in a cabin high up in the swiss alps, what three
> things would you want with you? And would you mind the whole experience
good company
> White Michael Jackson or Black Michael Jackson? inclined to go with
nothing
> If you could have any one super power, what would it be? immortality
> Anything else you want to say that you don't feel is covered above?
>
>
>
Dark Star
>
> family and friends are concerned about me "being one of those Goths" and old
> friends I have had for years just stopped calling me. I told a centrelink
> counsellor I was Goth and they directed me off to a psychologist, were I was
> then confirmed as a sociopath, (now I return a form every 3 months) do Goths
> really have a bad name? suicidal maybe but not harmful to others unless
> provoked (hey, he looked at me weird your honour) but truth be told, I have
> never been happier wearing black. I love walking down the main street of a
> conservative rich town like Bowral and getting stared at by the townsfolk,
> and when I ask to buy something they all jump to as if I had a gun or
> sumfin....("do you have Robert Graves "I Claudius"?; "y-y-es right h-h-ere"
> and they quickly chuck the change back at me with out contact) yet I am
> probably the biggest softy going and all my spare time is devoted to giving
> to others.
>
*chuckle* Yeah, I know what you mean. A workmate confided that before he
met me, he'd probably have crossed the street to avoid a Goth he'd seen
walking around. Which is amusing because in my experience Goths are
almost universally pussy-cats. I think in part it's the Goth = baby
sacrificing Satanist thing but mostly just that close-minded different =
bad thing that a lot of people have. And let's face it, black *is* a
powerful colour. Which is why we wear it, neh?
> by the way, you have the word DEITY in your nick, did you ever hang out in a
> bulletin board called TIGA? if yes, I was called DREDD and we might have met
> all those years ago.
>
The Deity in my email address is just because plain "Dark Star" was
already taken. No, I didn't hang around on TIGA. The only boards I spent
much time on were the snopes urban legends board and the corporate goth
board, and I don't have time for either of them now, unfortunately.
petrolgoth
>
> > Sexual preference: cyber chicks (did i really just type that)????
No! It was someone else.
> > If you could have any one super power, what would it be? immortality
and spend eternity being tortured by humanities stupidity.
Death is the answer it's just that no-one knows the question.
little miss malice
"Greylock" <Greylock_NOTT...@vurt.net> did type:
> Last episode "stranger.." <stra...@goth.spicedham.net> said:
<snup>
> >: Food:
> > Mexican.
>
> Why? I ask because, well, I ask.
> I've only had Mexican once, wasn't impressed at the time but three days
> later I was craving it....
Hasnt this conversation been had already? Mexican (GOOD Mexican) is bloody
good. end of story.
David Carson
> : Band:
> Too many to name, high rotation this week: Misfits and Casino Rumblers.
Hey, what have you got by the Casino Rumblers? If they're as good
recorded as they are live I might have to chase it down.
Trivia of the day: I work with a guy who is in a swing band, apparently
the bass player from the Casino Rumblers used to play with them..
Cheers!
David...
world_...@hotmail.com
I am concerned about your comments and wonder why you feel as you do
about the Australian gigs. Please send emails to me regarding the
publicity and I will forward them to the promoters in charge of these
gigs.(waspfactory.com)
As far as I am concerned, Kate Kut the new band member has added a new
twist to the band and the reactions have been good in Europe.We have
excellent record label interest.
We have also booked a US tour and are waiting for Visas for Aus.
There is no way the gigs will be cancelled.
By the time we come to Aus. the band should have a deal in the bag.
As for spending (?)$10,000 dollars on promotion(!!!)- I don't know
what you do for a living honey, but I sure hope it's not promotion!!!
You would get fired spending that on three gigs worth just over a few
thousand!!
I know that the scene is adjusting to Duncan's departure, but can we
just show you the new vibe and if you free your minds>>>
and in the words of SOD to the rest of you who obviously don't want to
play any more... you have two choices:
NOW GET IN
or
SUCK ON THIS!
jay
>>> FAVOURITES:
>>> Band:
>>Bizillians. This week I have been mostly listening to Needlesharing,
>>Bigod 20 and Fleshfield.
>
>I've heard of BiGod 20.
>Am I missing anything?
Not in the case of Fleshfield, you ain't...
jay
Ohhhhhhhhhh baby. Chilli keeps you warm on cold nights.
jay
>I am Sheep On Drugs Manager, Cat.
G'day.
>I am concerned about your comments and wonder why you feel as you do
>about the Australian gigs. Please send emails to me regarding the
>publicity and I will forward them to the promoters in charge of these
>gigs.(waspfactory.com)
Well, you bypassed Canberra, for a start.
jay
>Last episode slowli...@aol.com.nospam (jay) said:
>>>But I'd rather live in: Here's fine ... perhaps a bit closer to Canberra
>>would be nice, but I'm not complaining
>
>On this topic, whatever happened to all the Canberra residents who lost
>thier homes?
Since you asked ...
As far as I know, nobody in this newsgroup lost their home [willing to be
corrected if that's wrong]. One of my friends lost her house at Stromlo [she
lived in the ANU dorms up there, with her boyfriend who worked on the
telescopes: everything was destroyed] and she's now managed to find a temporaty
place in the overheated rental market.
I think all the demolished homes in the seriously affected suburbs have now
been cleared and some rebuilding work is underway. It's still eerie to look in
the property section and see 'land sales', where there is clearly no house
involved.
I think this website is still active [this was the website I lived by, back in
January]:
http://www.esb.act.gov.au/media/bushfire.htm
Dillon Burke
(Greylock) wrote:
>Last episode vi...@ihug.removethis.co.nz (Dillon Burke) said:
>>The daggiest thing I ever wore was: lime green pants and a pink shirt
>
>So, why were you dressing as Morpheas? :)
Fashion sense is something I developed after I hit university. Being a
library geek I just wore whatever my mother brought for me.
>What's Wellington like these days?
Good. Although this feeling is directly linked to the fact that I
found work here where I get to use my brain most days. The once a
month goth night in a seedy nightclub is about as good as it gets
scene-wise in NZ.
>>Number of acg'ers with whom you've been "intimate" (snog & upwards): 0
>
>How many have you met>?
About 2. Trayce in melbourne in '98, and Mrs V briefly in Sydney last
year.
Regards
Dillon
Dark Star
>
> So, what did you do before acg?
>
Rambled about on the web. snopes for a couple of years. I can't remember
what else ...
>>
>>Somewhere between 65 and 60 kg and falling (which is *not* a good thing)
>
> What's yr secret?
>
Stress probably. My appetite shrank to almost nothing a couple of years
back, and never really recovered. I still can't finish a meal in a
resturant.
>
>>>LIFESTYLE:
>>>Occupation:
>>
>>Code-monkey (Server-side Java Programmer)
>
> If a thousand code monkeys were locked in a room with Windows 3.1 PCs and
> Notepad.exe, what would they write?
>
Monkey shit? I don't program for Windows.
>
>>>Number of acg'ers with whom you've been "intimate" (snog & upwards):
>>
>>A number somewhere between 0 and infinity.
>
>
> So, can we narrow it down to "none, some, or all".
> We know it's not all, so it must be "none, or some".
> I'm going to suggest: Some. :)
>
*chuckle* You surely don't expect a lady to kiss and tell, do you?
(quiet you lot in the peanut gallery)
>
>>>Perky/mopey/neither:
>>
>>Popey
>
> Popey?
> Can you cannonise off the cuff, whisper requiems, dispense wisdom and
Sure, whatever you like :)
> shake
> like an old undead thing?
>
You haven't seen me dance yet, have you?
>
>>>Dietary classification:
>>
>>Carnivore - if it ain't bleedin', I ain't eatin'
>
> Plants bleed.... sap.
>
Blood. Bloooooood ...
Kitsune
> Greylock wrote:
<snippage>
>>>> Dietary classification:
>>>
>>> Carnivore - if it ain't bleedin', I ain't eatin'
>>
>> Plants bleed.... sap.
>
> Blood. Bloooooood ...
>
That can be taken in sooo many wrong ways. ;p
And over here... it probably already has.
Kits, keep yer minds out of the gutter people... that's for the yuppies
Kitsune
> Ah. I see it's that time of the year again.
Yeah... its been a while since we did one of these... and they used to
be more regular... (quarterly or half yearly)
> Windsor, Melbin, Victoria, Austraya. (new house!)
When is the housewarming? Hopefully not the 21st of June.
> The lap of luxury....or the lap of....errr, never mind....
You've been in many a lap. :)
>> Occupation:
> Lawyer.
>> But I'd really like to be a:
> *scratches head* Don't know really. I kinda like what I do, even if it is a bit stressful.
They made you say that didn't they?
You shouldn't have accepted clause 13 in that contract :)
>> Sexual preference:
> You mean I have to decide?!?!?
no... you could've just said "yes please"
>> Pets:
> One spoilt Burmese puss cat called Anakin.
How is he coping with the move?
>> Liver:
> Enjoying a bit of a hiatus atm. But beatings are in store....
Yeah we need one of them get pished and talk shite nights again.
>> What got you into this whole "goth" thing anyhow?
> I don't care what he says, I'm still going to blame Kitsune. *grin*
ARGHHHH I knew you'd say that!
>> What do you wear to bed?
> A cheeky grin and nowt else. :)
I knew you'd say that too! ;p
>> If we made "ACG - The Movie" - who would play you?
> No idea.
teehee... yes you do!
>> If someone's hitting on you - what's guaranteed to work?
> Being cute, playful, and able to hold an interesting conversation with me.
Umm so... what about that local sports team then?
> Probably not. Besides, my mother already thinks I'm an exhibitionist. It would probably end up X-rated if it
> involved the hot tub though.
Yeah but there are no limos nor are there any bottles of champas
involved... and I'm not going anywhere near the filming. ;)
Kits, ahhh "When Beavers Attack"
Trayce
<c_kr...@hotmail.com> wrote:
>In news:t7n8cvc42fnof1qsp...@4ax.com,
>Trayce <tra...@somethingorother.com> Retorted:
>> Hobbies: ranting on online forums, collecting Nick Warren CDs,
>> strangling animals, golf and masturbating
>
>well that got my interest!
Heh. Well is that because of what I said, or did you spot the
reference? (its actually a quote.... sorry to disapoint ;P)
Trayce (Golf is a walk wasted!)
Kitsune
Hehehe... you were right... most people probably didn't see the reference...
Though I'm sure there's a fair number that did
Kits, like our dear ms trayce masturbates indeed! ;P
stranger..
"Greylock" <Greylock_NOTT...@vurt.net> wrote
: I assume that's a song called 'The Cure' by Blue Ruin?
Mmm-hmm. i'd all but forgotten it until i found an old Blue Ruin tape the
other week. (i would have wondered if it was a love song or a drug song if
he didn't use of the word 'girl' so often).
: >: Way to go:
: > 'i've got my motorcycle jacket but i'm walking all the time'.
:
: Where's that from?
The Clash, 'This Is England'.
: "I used to be with it, but then they changed what it was, and now what
: it is is strange and scary ... and one day it will happen to YOU"?
:
: That Abe?
That'd be the one.
--
stranger..
(onion, belt, fashion at the time)
++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
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"The moon stands in the shadow
of a world gone entirely mad ." (No)
stranger..
"David Carson" <da...@eldergothSPAMTRAP.com> wrote
: Hey, what have you got by the Casino Rumblers? If they're as
: good recorded as they are live I might have to chase it down.
i got their 'Voodoo Doll' six track ep when i saw them last. It's good, but
not as good as seeing them live.
--
stranger..
(playing it makes me want to see them live)
n4cat
>"Highlandish" wrote:
>
> >Trayce Retorted:
> >> Hobbies: ranting on online forums, collecting Nick Warren CDs,
> >> strangling animals, golf and masturbating
> >
> >well that got my interest!
>
> Heh. Well is that because of what I said, or did you spot the
> reference? (its actually a quote.... sorry to disapoint ;P)
>
> Trayce (Golf is a walk wasted!)
What?! You're kidding me?
I'm very disappointed!
You mean you don't play golf?
I thought you would look rather fetching in tartan plus fours.
--
n4cat
"Cry 'Havoc,' and let slip the dogs of war"
Shakespeare, Julius Caesar, Act 3 Scene 1
Belegdel
Name: Belegdel
Real name: Belegdel
E-mail address: Does it really matter?
Web page: I have one, sort of.
Other newsgroups you frequent: None
Length of time on the 'net: Oh, stuff! I'm sick
of figuring this out.
Length of time as a net.goth: See above.
Place of residence: Brisbane
But I'd rather live in: (on) Another planet.
APPEARANCE:
Chromosomal makeup: Broken. Or at least inaccurate.
Age: 33.5
Height: Short
Weight: Fat
Hair for this week: Faded bright red with far
too much regrowth
Natural hair colour: It used to be a nice red.
Now it's mousey something.
Eyes: Blue
Tattoos/Piercings/Scars/Other: 3 ear piercings,
a few scars.
Preferred clothing: Black, lacey, flowing.
Your favourite "non-Goth" clothes: No such thing.
The daggiest thing I ever wore was: Light blue denim
LIFESTYLE:
Occupation: UNIX sytem administrator
But I'd really like to be a: Writer
When I was ten I wanted to be: Nothing in particular
Number of acg'ers with whom you've been
"intimate" (snog & upwards): 0
Availability status: Not
Sexual preference: Some. Even just a teeny
weeny bit.
Religion: Hate them.
Pets: There's a couple of gecko's in the house.
Your worst habit: Laziness
Perky/mopey/neither: Mopey
I would describe my dancing style as: WBAFLPM,
when I bother at all.
Most of your money gets spent on: Miniatures! 2
New armies! I'm in heaven :)
Dietary classification: Trying hard to lose
weight and hating every minute of failing to do
so, in a loving it kinda way.
Liver: Heathly, so far as I know.
Hobbies: Miniature wargaming, Roleplaying,
Yelling at the TV, Dreaming about unpleasant ends
to the current regime.
FAVOURITES:
Band: Iris
Love song: ...nope, can't think of one just now.
Dance-like-a-maniac song: Well, aside from the
not dancing thing; "Unknown" - Iris
Pub: Hate them
Club: Hate them too
Book/genre/author/poet: No idea.
TV show: None
Actor/actress: None
Movie: Brotherhood of the Wolf,
Artist/artwork: None. Wow, I suck.
Animal: Gecko!
Food: Coconut Rice.
Drink: Water
Texture: Skin
Place to go: Home
Way to go: Jaunt
MISCELLANY:
What got you into this whole "goth" thing
anyhow? Not what, who. Me.
What do you wear to bed? You'd rather not know
Do you decapitate Jelly Babies and Teddy Bear
biscuits before
progressing to other body parts? Absolutely.
If we made "ACG - The Movie" - who would play
you? Halle Berry. Movies should improve over real
life.
If one thing could suddenly appear on your desk
/ fall
in your lap, what would you like it to be? I'll
keep that little fantasy to myself thanks.
What is your greatest fear? Liberals winning yet
another election.
Your last five holidays were where? Home. As is
my next holiday. Home is where other people aren't.
Which cartoon character are you? Oscar the
Grouch. No, wait, that's not a cartoon...
If someone's hitting on you - what's guaranteed
to work? Being married to me.
Can you keep a secret? Yes
Who or what is your least favourite thing in the
world? John Winston Howard or Donald Rumsfeld.
Too close to call.
What gives you a warm fuzzy feeling inside?
Sleeping in my own bed with a familiar warm body
beside.
NEW STUFF:
If you were stranded in a cabin high up in the
swiss alps, what three
things would you want with you? And would you
mind the whole experience
being filmed for public viewing?
1. Other half
2. Music collection and means to play it
3. Internet connection and reliable post
White Michael Jackson or Black Michael Jackson?
Black or better yet, neither.
If you could have any one super power, what
would it be? The power to grant super powers.
Anything else you want to say that you don't
feel is covered above? I'm sick of black leather.
I'm sick of black PVC.
I'm sick of seeing other people's butt cracks
despite trying hard to avoid it.
I'm sick of politics serving the rich. I'm sick
the rich serving themselves. I'm sick of religion
being the best excuse for pretty much anything.
I'm sick of awful television. I'm sick of people
who refuse to think for themselves. I'm sick of
beefed up cars making too much noise at too great
a speed for no reason. I'm sick of afro-american
culture. I'm sick of the word "goth". I'm sick
of having to mow my lawn. I'm sick of feeling
poor even though I know I'm not. I'm sick of
having to work. I'm sick of having to eat. Why
are you still reading this? There's no point.
I'm sick of writing it. I'm sick of being sick of
trivial things when other people are sick of being
shot at or being hungry. Me sick.
--
Belegdel | "You will never find true happiness,
| What you gonna do, cry about it?"
| - Wierd Al Yankovic
Dan
<world_...@hotmail.com> wrote in message
news:5592de12.03051...@posting.google.com...
> I am Sheep On Drugs Manager, Cat.
>
> I am concerned about your comments and wonder why you feel as
you do
> about the Australian gigs. Please send emails to me regarding
the
> publicity and I will forward them to the promoters in charge of
these
> gigs.(waspfactory.com)
A lot of what I wanted to say has already been said, but I'll
add this - I get around most of the Melbourne goth and electronic
clubs (sometimes more than I want to) and I talk to a *lot* of
people (often more than I want to), since I promote and/or DJ for
most of the clubs. I'm not being arrogant either here, it's just
the facts. And let me tell you that *I* don't know when or where
this Melbourne gig is (and there's only rumours about who is
actually organising it) and the people I speak to in clubs
CERTAINLY don't know either. I also get around most of
Melbourne's alternative-oriented clothing, music and lifestyle
shops and I haven't seen one single poster, flyer or other piece
of evidence to indicate that Sheep on Drugs are ever coming here.
And how much time and money does it take to make a simple black
and white A3 poster and then make some copies at Officeworks at 6
cents a page???? I strongly suggest you have a good talk to the
people organising the Melbourne leg of this tour, and get them to
pull their fingers out. Or employ someone else.
Love Dan
Kitsune
> Last episode world_...@hotmail.com (world_...@hotmail.com) said:
>
>>I am Sheep On Drugs Manager, Cat.
>
>>what you do for a living honey, but I sure hope it's not promotion!!!
>>You would get fired spending that on three gigs worth just over a few
>>thousand!!
>
> You do the same *minimal* advertising in Sydney and Melbourne, and you're
> up for MORE than $500 per ad - but at the bare minimum you're looking at
> $5000 in advertising.
And we're talking AUD here... just to make sure that everyone understands.
> So... where might people buy tickets.
> Six weeks out, I don't feel it's an unreasonable question.
No I think its quite reasonable... at least you think they'd advertise
on PBS ;)
>>and in the words of SOD to the rest of you who obviously don't want to
>>play any more... you have two choices:
>>NOW GET IN
>>or
>>SUCK ON THIS!
Ummm how about... Not?
> Now, there's an attitude which is going to be ever so helpful.
> Weren't those the lyrics of a song that was extremely popular in some clubs
> in the very early 1990s?
Sounds like it... but I'm really bad when it comes to lyrics.
Honestly though, how does a group go by with that kind of attitude.
Even if you are a huge success (which to my understanding, SoD aren't
quite) Would you really take that kind of chance here in Aus?
Its not like bands actually come here just to make money... cause I
don't know how they can. (I'd be guessing most bands that do come here,
do so at a loss - please someone correct me if I'm wrong)
Kits, perplexed
Unknown
> And we're talking AUD here... just to make sure that everyone >understands.
Of course.
I mean, in addition to this being the australian newsgroup,
Brits use pounds. Or Euros. :)
> >>play any more... you have two choices:
> >>NOW GET IN
> >>or
> >>SUCK ON THIS!
> > Now, there's an attitude which is going to be ever so helpful.
> > Weren't those the lyrics of a song that was extremely popular in
> > some clubs in the very early 1990s?
> Sounds like it... but I'm really bad when it comes to lyrics.
It was a snide comment. Snide, or sly - I can't decide.
I'm pretty sure they were part of the lyrics to Motorcycle.
> Honestly though, how does a group go by with that kind of attitude.
> Even if you are a huge success (which to my understanding, SoD aren't
> quite) Would you really take that kind of chance here in Aus?
I don't think we need point the bone of blame at the bands.
They may well just have no idea what's going on here, and are getting
some very, very bad advice.
I must say, inquiries to date have drawn forth little (no) information.
I have been told that, in Perth, Zeb (who runs or ran The Haven) is somehow connected, but can't verify that.
Kitsune
GreylockatWork wrote:
> Kitsune wrote:
>
>>And we're talking AUD here... just to make sure that everyone >understands.
>
>
> Of course.
> I mean, in addition to this being the australian newsgroup,
> Brits use pounds. Or Euros. :)
>
Well, we do have the occasional Kiwi and North American pop in.
They may get confused.
> I don't think we need point the bone of blame at the bands.
Ok, maybe the promoters then...
Its not like many people would actually break even with smaller
bands/names/et al.
Kits, we gotta blame someone...
Trayce
wrote:
>What?! You're kidding me?
>I'm very disappointed!
>You mean you don't play golf?
>
>I thought you would look rather fetching in tartan plus fours.
Hmmmm *makes thoughtful finger on chin gesture*
Trayce (wacky gear R me)
Ground Under Productions
> >about the Australian gigs. Please send emails to me regarding the
> >publicity and I will forward them to the promoters in charge of these
> >gigs.
>
> There has been next to no local promotion.
There is no promotion, and the costs involved in getting a band to
Australia is very high, and much higher than a band getting to US and
Europe [from one another]. Then the cost to travel to each city is more
expensive than travelling from one city to another here.
> What I have tried to make abundantly clear in this thread is that, and I
> think I'm echoing the sentiments of everyone who has posted to the thread:
> Gosh darn it, we'd like to go ma'am, we just can't seem to buy tickets.
>
> When you're targetting a largely poor audience, and you want them to fork
> out $40, you need to give them some warning.
For a band that has had a very low profile for 5+ years especially.
> From which it says they were "offered" the chance to tour Australia.
> So I don't think they are the promoter.
>
> Which raises another key question: who is promoting this?
> We don't know, so we can't ask questions.
I believe Craig of Heresy is doing the Melbourne leg [which certainly
doesn't bode well] but Perth and Sydney are quite anathema to me...
> It must be said, I don't think that SoD, Chaos Engine *or* Wasp Factory
> have helped.
> I can't get into http://www.sheep-on-drugs.com/indexflash.html because of
> the flash,
No websites to my knowledge have anything close to updated information
on the tour.
> >There is no way the gigs will be cancelled.
If you don't want to loose a lot of money they should be cancelled.
> >As for spending (?)$10,000 dollars on promotion(!!!)- I don't know
> >what you do for a living honey, but I sure hope it's not promotion!!!
> >You would get fired spending that on three gigs worth just over a few
> >thousand!!
>
> I don't know where jarod got his figures from, but I do know a little about
> advertising.
>
> I'll use Opeth as an (unfair) comparison.
> Six weeks from the gig, they had quarter page ads in the X-Press every
> second week, plus an interview in X-Press.
> I seem to recall a 1/4 mono in X-press is $500+, so there's $1500 for Perth
> alone in advertising, not including fliers or posters.
> You do the same *minimal* advertising in Sydney and Melbourne, and you're
> up for MORE than $500 per ad - but at the bare minimum you're looking at
> $5000 in advertising.
>
> These are the realities of our market.
Those sort of rates are far from un-reasonable... $500 is about a half
page in most free street press [black and white, no idea of colour
rates] and there's 2 in every city.
To print up 1,000 A1 flyers [or even A2] and have them distributed
properly you'll be really lucky to get that done under $2,500, more like
$4,000 is reasonable.
Small hand-flyers you'll pay $1,000 if you want full colour, $400 about
if you want single colour. Then you need to constantly update the press
about the tour [bzzzzzzzt ain't happening here] and spend a fair bit of
money on phone calls and fax bits and pieces, then push for interviews
and reviews which is often directly related to advertising... beyond the
street press there is also the glossy magazines like Rolling Stone and
Juice which while I don't know their ad rates, I'm sure they're at least
quadruple the number of the street press.
Then you might want to target the alternative radio, a 30 second ad slot
on Melbournes RRR or PBS is a minimum of $40 per slot and you need to
buy a minimum of 10 slots.... then you need to spend a few dollars per
promo CD you need to send out to all the media [my database for
alternative street press and media in Australia is about 30 outlets... a
few dollars per CD adds up quickly].
And you still haven't begun to touch on the actually street-promoters
within the scene, who often will do it for free entry and some drinks
but if you want to be gaurenteed a proper job you should pay them.
$10,000 is a very modest amount. If you don't do this type of promotion
in Australia, then you may as well stay at home because this style of
music is not known here and you will not get people coming through the
doors except the few hardcore fans. If your happy with 50 people
turning up so be it, but you will loose a lot of money.
Aside from promotion you have airfairs [min. $2,000 return per person],
accomodation [anywhere from $50 to $150 a night per person] then you
have to get those people through the country [about $1,000 to fly to
each city, even if you don't want to go to all the cities your not going
to get much cheaper]... then you have food [$20 per person per day is
thinking positively], taxi's, PA and lighting hire, venue hire,
contracts and lawyers fees... and so on...
even a tour with just 2 people you should realistically be looking at
around $30,000.
> >I know that the scene is adjusting to Duncan's departure, but can we
> >just show you the new vibe and if you free your minds>>>
But the long time fans will be pissed of, some won't go, others won't
even know until it's too late... these fans have no clue about this
"tour" let alone that there is a change in lineup.
It doesn't matter how good the new guy is or isn't... but you've got to
negate the bad press and feeling that a new singer puts into the band.
> So... where might people buy tickets.
> Six weeks out, I don't feel it's an unreasonable question.
Not knowing where to buy tickets at any time is ultra ultra bad form.
This is not an international tour, it's a locally put together bunch of
shows by some locals which should be for a local band and all moneytary
and promotional expectations are for a local act. Only there's an
international band who's about to have a lot of fun falling into a
pitfall.
Unfortunately the band is goinng to think Australia is complete shit,
everyone involved is going to think the band and/or promoters are
complete shit... no one's going to be happy and Australia's scene will
get a bad rep for it [well, at least then it will have *a* rep].
- jarod
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> add this - I get around most of the Melbourne goth and electronic
> clubs (sometimes more than I want to) and I talk to a *lot* of
> people (often more than I want to), since I promote and/or DJ for
> most of the clubs. I'm not being arrogant either here, it's just
> the facts. And let me tell you that *I* don't know when or where
> this Melbourne gig is (and there's only rumours about who is
> actually organising it) and the people I speak to in clubs
> CERTAINLY don't know either. I also get around most of
> Melbourne's alternative-oriented clothing, music and lifestyle
> shops and I haven't seen one single poster, flyer or other piece
> of evidence to indicate that Sheep on Drugs are ever coming here.
> And how much time and money does it take to make a simple black
> and white A3 poster and then make some copies at Officeworks at 6
> cents a page???? I strongly suggest you have a good talk to the
> people organising the Melbourne leg of this tour, and get them to
> pull their fingers out. Or employ someone else.
Only that an international band should be promoted a fuck load more than
just a few photocopied A3 posters.
This sort of stuff just makes me fume. I have no idea how or why this
is going ahead. 95% of Australian promoters don't even know how to
promote their own local club or a local band, let alone be given the
handles of an international tour.
Heaven forbid.
Ground Under Productions
>
> Last episode Ground Under Productions <ja...@gup.net.au> said:
> >> Perhaps it's all just miscommunication?
> >And then some...
> >> But I'm not a promoter, so what would I know?
> >More than an Australian promoter obviously.
>
> Greylock and jarod detente!
> Colin Powell lays out roadmap to acg peace!
> :)
FUCK PEACE! ACG flamewars... bring 'em on... the people are getting
boring lately and need to spice up their lives...!
> >PS - Hate to say it but... "I told 'em so" having had long email
> >conversations with people in the UK and England about the tour, who's
> >doing it and why.
>
> Well Azelblu (or however it's spelt) who is married(?) to Lee Chaos (who is
> the engine of Chaos Engine, and I think runs SoD's label), and who is
> organising the bands in the UK (herding cats), was a Melbourne girl (I
> think), and thus can't be clueless about the realities of touring
> Sydbourne, and what to expect.
I spoke with Alezblu and Lee via email several months ago, outlining
mostly why a SoD tour is a horrible horrible idea [while I would also
like to make it clear that I would be over the moon several times for
international acts to come out to Australia] but you can't do it without
loosing money in Australia. At best you might be ultra lucky and come
in even.
Alezblue was a Melbourne girl, then a Perth girl, then an Adelaide girl,
now a UK girl. She was never involved in any sort of promoting or
DJ'ing in Australia and doesn't know some of the key people in Australia
who could potential make this happen [to the best of my knowledge].
Regardless of anyone's intentions, everyone who thinks they can bring a
band out to Australia successfully is clueless about touring bands. I
have spoken to promoters high and low, as well as bands high and low and
I've done all the paperwork and maths several times. If your lucky, at
best you would need around 1,500 punters to turn up [and pay for] the
shows [collectively] paying about $50 a head. Most of the clubs in
Australia at $5 a head don't get that in any one week.
> We'll see what we'll see.
> But I think it's quite clear what I think we'll see.
I saw Johnny English recently... heaps of fun, but the whole movie was
entirely gut wrenching because you could see what was going to happen
the whole way and it was just horrible. This is just like that, only
real.
Unknown
> > Which raises another key question: who is promoting this?
> > We don't know, so we can't ask questions.
> I believe Craig of Heresy is doing the Melbourne leg [which certainly
> doesn't bode well] but Perth and Sydney are quite anathema to me...
I have heard, this afternoon, that the people behind
The Haven (where we have heard "a few fliers have been spotted" may
be involved with the tour in some capacity.
The Haven (to which I have never been) is moving venues after
a short run at the Brisbane Hotel.
You don't have to be a rocket scientists to assume that
- with no new venue announced - lack of numbers could be to blame.
That doesn't bode well, either - if it is the case.
> No websites to my knowledge have anything close to updated >information on the tour.
No. I check the SoD one from work.
> even a tour with just 2 people you should realistically be looking at
> around $30,000.
You've priced this for VNV, haven't you jarod? :)
> But the long time fans will be pissed of, some won't go, others won't
> even know until it's too late... these fans have no clue about this
> "tour" let alone that there is a change in lineup.
> It doesn't matter how good the new guy is or isn't...
New chick, actually.
> but you've got to negate the bad press and feeling that a new singer >puts into the band.
I think you're putting too much stock in this.
After all, any tour is better than none.
Plus, in Perth, at least, Immaculata are toodling over,
and we have a local band.
Plus The Chaos Engine, who rock.
> Not knowing where to buy tickets at any time is ultra ultra bad form.
yup.
> Unfortunately the band is goinng to think Australia is complete shit,
> everyone involved is going to think the band and/or promoters are
> complete shit... no one's going to be happy and Australia's scene
> will get a bad rep for it [well, at least then it will have *a* rep].
That's my man - glass half full!
Ground Under Productions
> >an international "tour" without spending a bare bones minimum of $10,000
> >on promotion... even in Australia...
>
> Ah, yes.
> As an exercise in speculation.
> Now, let us assume the Chaos Engine travel with four, and Sheep on Drugs
> with two (that's assuming (1) I don't know how many in Chaos Engine, (2)
> they are breaking the Mixy Directive, being completely unprofessional and
> not beinging their own sound dude :) )
>
> That's $9000 alone in airfares - to Australia.
> The Perth leg would add Immaculata (4 members? at $400/ticket return) at
> $2400 (plus the costs of getting the theroetical UK visitors at Virgin
> Blue's one way fare of $240 pp one way) at $1440.
Your being very generous there... 6 band members is more likely to be
around $12,000. A "real" band touring would also bring their own sound
guy, lighting guy and management. A "real huge" band would also bring
along a large crew for setting up their $5,000 a show rigging equipment
that would need to be freighted with at least 200 KG being a few grand
to ship to Australia.
Even a modest lighting and sound rig for an international band is still
setting the promoters back $2,000
Return tickets from Melbourne to Perth is if your lucky $400, but
because the timing is a bit more specific chances are you could pay up
to $700 per person.
> That's a minimum, with out considering that a band might need to eat,
> sleep, drink or use taxis (some of which may be defrayed if they consider
> themselves "on holiday".
> I'm I can't even grok the equipment regime, if if cash will be needed for
> working visas (which I know have been issues for bands touring other
> countries).
>
> So we're at a barebones of $13,000, without promotion.
Be realistic and double it. Honestly.
> On those back of the envelope figures, the Perth leg adds $4000.
> At $40/ticket, just to cover those costs you're looking at selling 100
> tikcets just to cover transport costs.
I worked out to tour VNV Nation, 2 live members, sound and
lighting/management would cost about $40,000 [a couple of years ago now,
prices have recently gone crazy in regards to club-style events].
Across 6 shows [Perth, Adelaide, Melbourne, Canberra, Sydney and
Brisbane] you need an average of $6,667 per show, lets say your charging
[I'll pick a number out of the air...] $40 per ticket you need 167
people PAYING [how many people will you need to let in for free ? up to
50 per show no doubt] to BREAK EVEN.
Then there's people who will be wanting to make money after that. Venue
hire, the 5 local promoters who have sweated their guts out to make the
show a success for the past 3 months etc etc etc...
Prices have gone up extremely in the last couple of years, inflation and
the very evil public liability which outside of any small club you as
the promoter/organiser will need to provide for... there's another [up
to] $1,000 per venue.
And we are still looking at the realistic bare bones minimum and teh
band is sleeping onthe promoters lounge room floors and eating 2 minute
noodles.
> Which is, I think, doable *if* they advertise.
>
> >Ah I'm about to cry...
>
> *hands jarod hanky*
> Don't worry, I'm sure the bands won't spread the tale of how Australians
> don't know how to get up a tour. ;)
i'm still crying.
Unknown
> Greylock wrote:
> > That's $9000 alone in airfares - to Australia.
> > The Perth leg would add Immaculata (4 members? at $400/ticket
> > return) at $2400 (plus the costs of getting the theroetical UK
> > visitors at Virgin
> > Blue's one way fare of $240 pp one way) at $1440.
> Your being very generous there... 6 band members is more likely to be
> around $12,000.
I figured my costs using Virgin Blue's prices for the dates in question. And I did say *at least*.
> A "real" band touring would also bring their own sound
> guy, lighting guy and management.
Do we need to make such a big fuss about "real" bands?
The Chaos Engine/Wasp Factory machine is, I have read,
a fairly well-oiled DIY touring machine.
No idea about SOD.
I'll assume this is a working holiday, and that they're not
as clueless as all that.
> I worked out to tour VNV Nation, 2 live members, sound and
> lighting/management would cost about $40,000 [a couple of years ago
> now, prices have recently gone crazy in regards to club-style
> events].
Is that including VNV's hefty appearance fee?
> Across 6 shows [Perth, Adelaide, Melbourne, Canberra, Sydney and
> Brisbane] you need an average of $6,667 per show, lets say your
> charging
> [I'll pick a number out of the air...] $40 per ticket you need 167
> people PAYING [how many people will you need to let in for free ? up >to 50 per show no doubt] to BREAK EVEN.
I'd guess you could pull 200-odd paying punters in Perth, Sydney and Melbourne. Can't speculate on Adelaide or Canberra.
> > *hands jarod hanky*
> > Don't worry, I'm sure the bands won't spread the tale of how
> >Australians
> > don't know how to get up a tour. ;)
> i'm still crying.
It may turn out okay.
After all, I can now buy tickets. :)
jay
>Last episode slowli...@aol.com.nospam (jay) said:
>>Well, you bypassed Canberra, for a start.
>
>And?
Point taken. It was a mindless bitch, actually, because I really don't think
I'd have gone if they were playing at the end of my street.
>Just jet down to Sydney or Melbourne.
>No big deal.
Ummm ... it is for me, actually. Don't like planes very much, y'see.
Unknown
> >Just jet down to Sydney or Melbourne.
> >No big deal.
> Ummm ... it is for me, actually. Don't like planes very much, y'see.
Could you not jet ski down the mighty Murray?
Could you not catch a train?
Hitchhike?
Drive?
Hot air balloon?
Dan
"Ground Under Productions" <ja...@gup.net.au> wrote in message
news:3EC87B73...@gup.net.au...
> Only that an international band should be promoted a fuck load
more than
> just a few photocopied A3 posters.
Of course that goes without saying. I was just trying to
illustrate however that *ANY* level of promotion is better than
none, and I'm telling you I've seen NONE so far. What I meant
was no matter how poor the promoters might be, it costs almost
nothing to at least get some cheap-arse posters and flyers in the
shops and on the street.
> This sort of stuff just makes me fume. I have no idea how or
why this
> is going ahead. 95% of Australian promoters don't even know
how to
> promote their own local club or a local band, let alone be
given the
> handles of an international tour.
I'm with you on that score. Good promoters are practically
impossible to find in this scene. And good DJs too for that
matter :)
Love Dan
Ground Under Productions
> > guy, lighting guy and management.
>
> Do we need to make such a big fuss about "real" bands?
> The Chaos Engine/Wasp Factory machine is, I have read,
> a fairly well-oiled DIY touring machine.
>
> No idea about SOD.
>
> I'll assume this is a working holiday, and that they're not
> as clueless as all that.
Even still you can't ignore the costs... and is this a tour or is it a
couple of half-hearted gigs ?
> > I worked out to tour VNV Nation, 2 live members, sound and
> > lighting/management would cost about $40,000 [a couple of years ago
> > now, prices have recently gone crazy in regards to club-style
> > events].
>
> Is that including VNV's hefty appearance fee?
What hefty fee ? They were willing to come to Australia to tour at very
reasonable rates at the time.
> > Across 6 shows [Perth, Adelaide, Melbourne, Canberra, Sydney and
> > Brisbane] you need an average of $6,667 per show, lets say your
> > charging
> > [I'll pick a number out of the air...] $40 per ticket you need 167
> > people PAYING [how many people will you need to let in for free ? up >to 50 per show no doubt] to BREAK EVEN.
>
> I'd guess you could pull 200-odd paying punters in Perth, Sydney and Melbourne. Can't speculate on Adelaide or Canberra.
>
You can do 200, but most of your one-off club/band thingys do struggle
to get near that number.