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xiomi

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Feb 22, 2003, 9:01:30 PM2/22/03
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just curious.....
how often does everyone communicate with their long distance
spouse/fiance? My husband and I usually talk for at least a minute
everyday. We chat every night on Yahoo messenger.........it's getting
really old actually. Tonight I am very board........A year ago on a
Saturday night I would be out with friends....and now I feel I've lost
touch with a lot of them cause I spend so much time thinking about my
husband or investigating INS procedures.

"sigh"................why us??? :((

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BritAmerica

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Feb 22, 2003, 9:09:49 PM2/22/03
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Yah, it's getting "old" for me too. We talk almost everyday via
telephone. Sometimes we messenger and always we email eachother at
work. We had to wait forever to Jeff to get his divorce in the UK
before we could even submit paperwork...that was a drag. I wish we
could have started sooner. I'm hoping the next couple of months fly
by...I'm sooooo tired of waiting....really trying to be patient, but
sometimes I can't convince myself to do that.

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Dekka's Angel

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Feb 22, 2003, 9:05:47 PM2/22/03
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ICQ, Telephone and meeting in our online game, Everquest.

Total time - 1-3 hours per day, every day, for the past three years.

Yes, I get very little sleep - he's 16 hours ahead of me. =)

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BritAmerica

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Feb 22, 2003, 9:22:19 PM2/22/03
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Maybe we should start a new thread...."How much was your largest phone
bill...?":scared:

Ok, about two years ago mine was close to $3,000.00 The phone company
didn't bill me for three months and then had cancelled my calling plan
to the UK....instead of 10 cents a minute I was paying some insane rate
that AT&T made up. Needless to say I'm not dialing straight down the
middle, ok Carrot Top?

(just a little US joke/Phone commerical)

Scout

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Feb 22, 2003, 9:47:58 PM2/22/03
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Hmmmmm, well right now Pete has been here for a couple of months on the
VWP......so he's here with me.........when he is in Wales & I am
here.....we e-mail a lot during the day, then at night we messenger each
other and will talk on the phone only once or twice a week. Being
separated is hell.......I am dreading him going back to the UK, but at
least we may be able to catch a few days in sunny Spain while we are
there. Hopefully he will only need to stay a few weeks longer and then
come here for good.

Chhers,

Leslie & Pete

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ladybentley

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Feb 22, 2003, 10:04:49 PM2/22/03
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Monday to Friday we talk twice a day... once for about half an hour and
once for 10-15 minutes.

On Saturday and Sunday we talk three times, twice for 10 - 15 mins and
for about an hour.

email is a 'business' sort of thing anymore, and the occasional email.

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Troy

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Feb 22, 2003, 10:08:11 PM2/22/03
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We talk 2-3 times everyday with each call ranging from 5 to 90 minutes.

Caro

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Feb 22, 2003, 10:08:40 PM2/22/03
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Originally posted by Scout

Where are you going in Spain? I love it there. We went to Andalucia
(Sevilla, Granada, Cordoba) for our "honeymoon". If you want info, just
let me know!

Caroline

Scout

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Feb 22, 2003, 10:14:59 PM2/22/03
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Caro, we are thinking south.........along the Med.......maybe near
Alicante or Malaga. We are going to try and catch one of the late deals
once we get to London or to Cardiff. Any suggestions for along the Med?
I haven't ever been to Spain but Pete just loves it.......we hope to
maybe move there within 5 years or so if we can swing it and I want to
get a feel for the south coast........I speak a little French, but no
Spanish so we want to stay in an move to an area with a lot of ex-pats
and a lot of sunshine.

Cheers,

Leslie & Pete

sandy- pie

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Feb 22, 2003, 10:23:51 PM2/22/03
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Originally posted by xiomi
> just curious.....
> how often does everyone communicate with their long distance
> spouse/fiance? My husband and I usually talk for at least a minute
> everyday. We chat every night on Yahoo messenger.........it's getting
> really old actually. Tonight I am very board........A year ago on a
> Saturday night I would be out with friends....and now I feel I've lost
> touch with a lot of them cause I spend so much time thinking about my
> husband or investigating INS procedures.
>
> "sigh"................why us??? :((

golly do i feel you on this one. if i want to get to talk to my man i
usually have to do it in the middle of the day, which i try to work
around. we try to talk everyday but sometimes its just a quick call at
my work. i call and wake him up every morning, and he calls to wake me
when he can.
my social life is non-existant at this point. my mom yells at me to get
out of the house, but she doesnt understand how draining this whole deal
is. LIfe is amazing when we are together, but it seems to stop when we
are apart, i just want him back so we can do simple things, like go for
walks, and see movies. i dont want to do it alone anymore!

sandy

nathan barley

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Feb 22, 2003, 10:27:31 PM2/22/03
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When I was in England, and my wife was here in the US, we'd talk for
several hours each night online via ICQ, then a further hour or two on
the phone before we went to sleep. I was at university, so I could
afford to stay up until 5am each night chatting to her :D

Sometimes she'd call during the day from work, which adds another
20 minutes.

PEACHSTER

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Feb 22, 2003, 10:38:23 PM2/22/03
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When I wasn't with Peter we talked as much as we could online. Usually
it was between 3-4 hours during weeknights & then from Friday-Saturday
we would chat from late evening to 5 in the morning. LOL Also talked
alot on the phone for hours at a time. I spent alot of time talking to
him either online or phone. Our longest phone conversation was like 6
hours & our longest chat session was like 12 hours in 1 day! People I
know I talk to them about this & there like how can you talk that long.
I tell them it is easy. With Peter the time just flys by. We always
hated that. The time going so fast & having to leave each other. Last
year towards the end before we was gonna see each other again, it just
seemed really boring being online. We just got to the point where we was
just sick to death of having to talk online or phone. Been doing it for
over a year that we wanted a change. To be in the same room again to
have a conversation. Finally we can again & it's great. :)

claudia13839

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Feb 22, 2003, 10:41:36 PM2/22/03
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My husband and I talk everyday, I can't imagine how else our
relationship would of survived. It's funny because everyone says that
we must repeat the same things.

On the downside, I think that with all the money spent on phone bills
and phone cards over the past years....we would of had a down-payment on
a house already...in NYC...you know how expensive they are here!!!

~Claudia

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Frank

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Feb 22, 2003, 10:57:55 PM2/22/03
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40 minutes a day, almost every day on the phone. Going over to Europe in 10
days to wait for the finalizing of the K-3 (since they are processing late
Novembers hopefully won't be that long a wait). Problem is we are going to
need an I-212 and I-601 which will likely add about 1-2 months to the
timeline.

Frank, 1st NOA - 12/30 (paper), 12/31 (online)

cindyabs

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Feb 22, 2003, 11:15:27 PM2/22/03
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Steve calls me every morning to wake me up. We try and send an email to
each other once I am at my day job and before he leaves his day job for
his night job. IF I'm not working my night job then we speak at night
for about a half hour before he goes to sleep. He uses cheap phone
cards, sometimes he has problems getting through etc. I use PennyTalk
which is 2 cents a minute to the UK, you can top it up online. I USED to
use MCI and thought I was getting a break at 10 cents a minute. Then
they started charging me a monthly supplement for that. So I use
PennyTalk exclusively and have for the last 18 months. On weekends when
he is off I still am usually working my second job so we somehow try to
talk (even during my fifteen minute break) 3 times a day on weekends. It
was his lovely voice that was one of the first things I found
attractive....sigh, :)

Jacqueline Bergstedt

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Feb 23, 2003, 12:42:40 AM2/23/03
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We would religously phone each other once a week, on Sundays for around 6-7
hours at a time. Jeff once had a phone bill in the beginning for a couple
of these calls for $1000. He didnt realise that he needed to be on a call
plan, but still thought it would be reasonable. What a shock! I was
tidying up last week, and came across this bill, and on it he had written
"worth every penny!" awwwww :)
We also e-mailed each other every day, and would phone during the week for
special occasions. Its true, you dont run out of things to talk about.

Now happily married living in Chicago

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wisdom over wealth

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Feb 23, 2003, 12:52:08 AM2/23/03
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Okay... Now I'm crying and trying to see the screen through my tear filled
eyes.. You will never get anyone outside to understand. My parents,
friends... (no wait I don't have any) class mates try to make me to go out..
but It is just painful anymore. When Abdias and I first met he would stay up
late at his job.. He brought in a cot to snooze on then just take a shower
and work all day. We would talk for 6-12 hours just chatting. Then we
called on the phone for a while when I got scammed by MCI & ATT so I'm not
paying my 2,223.00 phone bill. Now I'm lucky if we talk once a month on the
phone. I get cards from him in my email but the lack any thing .. but I love
you and have you heard anything.. referring to INS. We try to chat but I'm
so tired of it. I get irritated not hearing his voice the comfort and
security it holds. I don't want a computer when my baby gets here. My butt
has spread just from sitting all the time. If someone could just tell me
what I"m learning in this horrible experience.. I miss my husband.. when he
reads to me ... My last trip we had a kitchen in the hotel and we worked so
good together.. we never bumped into ea.other it was harmony...I would give
anything for stank breath in the morning.. dirty socks on the floor. It is
so hard when Abie tells me the boys call for me in their dreams. I'm the
only mom they know... (sniffle)


Booger

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Feb 23, 2003, 1:35:48 AM2/23/03
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"Dekka's Angel" <membe...@britishexpats.com> wrote in message
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>
> ICQ, Telephone and meeting in our online game, Everquest.
>
> Total time - 1-3 hours per day, every day, for the past three years.
>

What's taking so long for you guys to get together?


La Migra

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Feb 23, 2003, 1:34:33 AM2/23/03
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On 23/2/03 4:17 AM, in article ia3h5vg38gemkbcjk...@4ax.com,
"KnightHeart" <Knigh...@thezone.com> wrote:

> This is the kind of thing that has made me almost totally
> hardened towards illegals.

"Illegals" translation: poor people that come here for a better life.

> I'm in the U.S. and my wife is Canadian. We
> met online and chatted for three years before she came down to meet me
> in person, and I proposed to her the second night she was here. I
> visited her for my Christmas vacation, then that July (last July) we
> got married. Since I work in a school, I had the summer off, and spent
> the entire time with her.
> In short, it has already costed us about $1,500 or so in
> various expenses to get her on a K3 so she can move here and go
> through the other mess to live her permanently. We get pushed around
> by the system, made to look like beggers pleading with the great gods
> of government to favor us, and told to wait upon their mercies to be
> with the ones we love.

Is that the "illegal's" fault or that the Government does not care about
you, their citizen to speed up the process?

> And we're also told to pay for it, and nearly
> every step.
> Illegals, however, are given the royal treatment, it would
> seem.

Do you have close contacts and ties with "illegal's" and say this from
experience or do you speak from what the media tells you?

> Free medical care,

Everybody knows there is no such thing in America (save for the extremely
poor), that is why there are 50 million people without it. All people do
get access to ER care, but follow-up care is not required by law - and
neither is "free." And if you have ever been to an inner-city hospital's ER
you would be more than happy you do not get that kind of "care," but that is
off-topic.

> no responsibility,

In what sense? Do you think "illegals" live well on their below minimum
wage salaries, grueling working hours, etc. Would you trade places with an
"illegal?"

> and a fake ID gets you on
> welfare forever.

That's not true, there are safeguards in place - but even assuming it is
true - is that an aspiration in life - to live on welfare forever? Give me
that offer and I'd rather die than live broke (well, not quite die, but
imbibe heavily).

> Hell, King George will grant you amnesty if you want
> it, and at no cost whatsoever!

That is simply untrue. There are fees and costs involved, go to the BCIS
web site and check out the forms and fees sections. And it is Congress that
passes amnesty legislation.

> Illegals are allowed and ENCOURAGED to
> pour through our borders,

Again, your anger seems to be towards the Government - it is not "illegals"
that have the political power to affect policy (they cannot vote, remember?)

> shoot at our border guards,

That's ignorant, it is a felony to attack a federal agent and the U.S.
Attorney's Office with jurisdiction would be more than happy to prosecute
somebody who does that. Could your partner shoot at a border guard and get
away with it simply because she is not American? Be realistic or you will
lose credibility.

> and even try to
> sue if they undergo hardships while attempting to cross here.

Citations? I would love to see caselaw re: that issue, but I have a feeling
there is none!

> Nothing
> is asked of them, our population is told to leave them alone and
> persecuted if they try to stop the illegals,

Explain how people are persecuted, again you are losing credibility making
outrageous claims.

> and we're all told to
> accept it and not complain.

Who told you that? The Government? Big business? The media? Who said
"KnightHeart, you're gonna have to accept those "illegals" and you better
not complain or you will be persecuted."? C'mon now.

> Try to do it the "right" way and you're screwed around, but do
> it the illegal way and you're home free in the U.S.

It's true the legal way is harder, but is that not true of many things in
life?

A McDonald's employee must work a year to earn $10,000, whilst any idiot
could just write a note on a piece of paper demanding $10,000 and walk in
and out of a bank with that money in 5 minutes. But, look at the possible
consequences. An "illegal" may be deported, etc. Your partner has slim
chances of ever facing that.

> I frequently tell
> people that the reason my wife is having to stay in Canada and wait is
> because she's not Mexican and trying to hop the border without getting
> caught.

Why don't you do that? Because you know that in the long run it's a bad
choice, admit it. Would you want to live "illegally" in another country?

Kerupt

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Feb 23, 2003, 2:05:04 AM2/23/03
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I try to talk to my wife at least once a day and use email. I currently
use phone cards to try and keep control over the phone bill. Its been
just over 6 months apart, If you dont count the INS letting me talk to
her @ the airport on a telephone and being able to see each other
through a 1 foot square security window =(

I am happy to say that I just bought round-trip ticket to Japan
yesterday for $638 USD !!! I am leaving on the 6th of March and
returning on the 21st. I have already discussed with her that this might
cause some difficult feelings/ stress when we have to say "good-bye" but
she is feeling these days as if we are slipping apart. I LOVE my wife
with everything I am. It disturbs me at times that life is much harder
for people that fall in love from differant countries. We have been
together for over 10 years now and I was a fool to think if we just got
married everything would all be ok... no more leaving, no more visas
etc. Now I know theres far more to it, than simply getting married. This
by far is the hardest thing we have had to deal with in our
relationship. The not knowing part is what makes the pain seem as if it
is neverending.

The time has come for me to goto where she is for once !! I went to
visit her family in Kenya about three years ago but we went together.
This will be much harder travelling alone. The anticipation of seeing
my family again won't make the trip there so bad... but having to come
back home alone will probably be yet another thing to add to my
"baddest day" list.

AndysGirl

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Feb 23, 2003, 2:21:04 AM2/23/03
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Andrew wakes me up every morning. Usually thats more of him talking. I
just grunt my 'i love you's'...Im not a morning person.

Then he calls me at work on his last break. Then he calls me on my lunch
for an hour. Then we talk after work sometimes. He likes it when I tell
him goodnight...otherwise he cant sleep.

Sometimes I stay up to wake him up. He is 6 hours ahead and usually when
call , i dont get to bed until 1am. I dont call everynight.

On weekends...its whenever. Sometimes we call each other for 15-30
mins....5 times a day. It just depends.

Its getting very old. I hate the phone now. Our phone bills arent bad,
he uses OneTel. It turns out to be 5cents a min. I have an international
plan with AT&T for 9 cents a min. So we usally use his.

We email each other mostly everyday, and video emails.

Thats our engagement right there. Not so normal. But to this NG my life
is the norm compared to all of you.


HURRY UP TSC!
Robin

PEACHSTER

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Feb 23, 2003, 3:11:57 AM2/23/03
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Originally posted by cindyabs


I was using MCI to call Peter in Canada & it got to the point where it
was just too expensive. I mean over 100.00 a month sometimes over
200.00. So I switched to phone cards but was still spendy. Not as bad
tho as MCI. I am so glad I dont have to buy damn phone cards anymore.
Can put that money towards other things. Like my bills. heh

Sheila

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Feb 23, 2003, 6:07:00 AM2/23/03
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Clive and I used to to the WEB cam....I know this sounds crazy but we would
leave it on 24-7...I had a long cord and I would bring it around the
house....lol...He almost caught my mom in the bathroom, I had to hurry and
shut the door. Boy was she mad. I would forget it was on when I had company.
We also talked everyday on the phone. Sometimes for hours. I remember once
we talked for 5 hours. The web cam is really nice though, it made me feel
less lonely. When I had a bad dream I would just wake him up and he was
there for me. My mom also thought I was crazy, and wanted me to get a life.
Well now almost 3 years down the road we are married and don't have a web
cam hooked up to the PC anymore. I remember those long sad days with 6 hours
difference it was horrible. Now I can't even fall asleep unless he is in the
bed with me. I cherish every moment we have together because of remembering
all the things, nights, days..etc. that we missed. This Valentine was the
first spent together and we were married...I could not ask for more...Hold
on your day is comming and it will be well worth it. KEEP THE FAITH!!!

Cheers
Sheila


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Poonnies man

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Feb 23, 2003, 5:22:25 AM2/23/03
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Now I can't even fall asleep unless he is in the
> bed with me. I cherish every moment we have together because of
remembering
> all the things, nights, days..etc. that we missed.

That is what I miss as well Sheila ..the 3 months myself and Wendi spent
together before I
to came back to Australia. To do this Prison time ( as I call it ).....I
really do miss the cuddles and being close .....Hopefully in 3 weeks I can
experiance that feeling again...I THINK ITS CALLED LOVE

Joe


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> > Clive and I used to to the WEB cam....I know this sounds crazy but we
would
> leave it on 24-7...I had a long cord and I would bring it around the
> house....lol...He almost caught my mom in the bathroom, I had to hurry and
> shut the door. Boy was she mad. I would forget it was on when I had
company.
> We also talked everyday on the phone. Sometimes for hours. I remember once
> we talked for 5 hours. The web cam is really nice though, it made me feel
> less lonely. When I had a bad dream I would just wake him up and he was
> there for me. My mom also thought I was crazy, and wanted me to get a
life.
> Well now almost 3 years down the road we are married and don't have a web
> cam hooked up to the PC anymore. I remember those long sad days with 6
hours
> difference it was horrible. Now I can't even fall asleep unless he is in
the
> bed with me. I cherish every moment we have together because of
remembering
> all the things, nights, days..etc. that we missed. This Valentine was the
> first spent together and we were married...I could not ask for more...Hold
> on your day is comming and it will be well worth it. KEEP THE FAITH

bba...@webtv.net

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Feb 23, 2003, 8:34:40 AM2/23/03
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My husband is in Canada and I am in Tennessee
we got married last March and have seen him 3 weeks since March.......we
talk on the phone at least 2-3 times a week and chat every morning and
at night..we chat before I go to work just get up earlier.......and chat
almost every night for an hour.......we are almost finished packet 3 is
back in the mail to MTL

BB

Tbrghtmn

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Feb 23, 2003, 9:47:47 AM2/23/03
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When my husband was out of the country, we would talk on the phone every
Saturday night for about 2 hours and kept in contact almost every night via
online chat. I would visit him just about every three months for a week or so.
It was difficult, especially the last trip because it had been about six
months since I had seen him. After I submitted the I-212, I didn't want to
take another trip because we didn't know when the approval would be and when I
would have to go back again for his interview. But, he's been home a year now
and it seems like so long ago.

dbark

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Feb 23, 2003, 5:01:15 AM2/23/03
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Cheers, Sheila!

Kurt and I can't wait for that day either .... meantime, here's our
routine: I phone him at 7 am my time (1 am his) for half an hour, before
I leave for work. Although this sounds mean and cruel, he insists on
it! Then I email him at work and he replies later. At his lunch, 6pm
(12 his time) he drives home from work and we chat using IMs and the
webcams. This is different from phone calls but we get to see each
other :D. When he gets in from work we usually also meet on the
computers and then he phones me to tuck me into bed at night. At
weekends, we talk on the phone for about 6-8 hours each day, and also
spend time on computer if we have some things to share that way - we
often look at websites together, etc. Thank heaven for phone cards!!

It is great hearing everyone else is in the same boat on here, nobody
outside of the NG understands this at all!

Debbie :)

Dekka's Angel

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Booger wrote:

"Dekka's Angel" wrote in message


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> ICQ, Telephone and meeting in our online game, Everquest.
> Total time - 1-3 hours per day, every day, for the past
> three years.

What's taking so long for you guys to get together?

We have "gotten together" in the sense that we've been on the same side
of the world for three visits (a blissful total of about 90 days over
the three years.) He has been to the US twice, I to Australia this past
summer. Sorry I should have been clearer - we've done the above every
day that we weren't face to face.

(Unless you were asking "why three years" without being married, and
then the answer is a slightly different one, but probably not unfamiliar
to many - hard decisions to make, divorces to finalize, life choices to
sort, and INS bureaucracy to get through =)).

Kae

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Feb 23, 2003, 11:05:23 AM2/23/03
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ICQ, our current online game, DAOC, and over the phone.

Just as a side comment to Dekka's Angel....my fiance and I met
playing EQ! ;)

Tree

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Feb 23, 2003, 12:20:04 PM2/23/03
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Well, my wife is here with me now, but when she was in Argentina, we started
off talking to each other a couple hours a day via MSN Instant Messenger
(and w/ webcam when she was at a cyber-cafe near University), but during the
last few months of being apart, I found a great deal on phonecards at
www.1st-usa.com. Instead of 15 cents per minute to Buenos Aires, I paid
less than 5, so we chatted by phone or by internet at least 5-6 hours per
day.

Now she's here!

Shaun


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Veronica and I chat online 3 or 4 times a week when she can get to the cyber
cafe. I call at least twice (sometimes 5 or 6 times) a week, but $.35 per
minute adds up. Occasionally, she leaves the city to visit family for a few
days. It kills me, because there are no cybercafes and no cell towers. I
haven't been waiting as long as some of you. I last left Veronica in
Ecuador in October. I'm still waiting for some paperwork from her and my
divorce to finalize to submit a package. It should be soon. She's
gathering everything now, and my divorce will be finalized on March 27. I
hope the visa process is relatively fast. I can't stand being away from her
and can't afford too many large phone bills.

Tony

TaLLoN

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Feb 23, 2003, 2:57:26 PM2/23/03
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I am so glad that we aren't the only ones! I told Joe last week I was bored
with our converesation.. sorry sweetie..but I was...he is so understanding and
wonderful but I want more then just emails..which we do
constantly...IM's..which we do regularily and our daily phone call..usually my
evening..when I am too tired to really talk, and his morning.. 13 hour
difference..but at least our emails are a true document of our relationship
that we can one day share with our grandchildren...

john

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Feb 23, 2003, 7:52:31 PM2/23/03
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i talk once a week for about 2 hours with my fiance. we send a short email
just to say hello and that we are thinking of each other every day.
never do the messenger thing. don't need to be in contact that much and
looking very much forward to her arrival soon.

it is a difficult situation and i don't like it that our relationship is
developing via the internet and phone but these are the sacrifices we make
in a relationship like this.

Jana

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Marc and I talk at least 1 hour and 40 minutes every single day by
telephone. We chat constantly when we are both at home. The Monday
after Valentine's day when I was off for President's Day Holiday we
talked at least 12 hours on the telephone. Since we couldnt talk as
much as we wanted on Valentine's, we made that our day. We also play
games together online. Marc works from 3p.m. - Close at his job so he
sleeps late, but I rarely go to bed before midnight and sometimes it is
closer to 2 a.m. I live on about 4-6 hours of sleep a night. On
Sunday, my only off day, I crash and sleep in REAL late :)

Dekka's Angel

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So did we!!!!!

(What server? =))

Aaron

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I talk to Gabby maybe three times a week. I envy all you people who
can chat online. We use nobelcom for our calling cards, or she calls
me on her celphone which is only $0.10/minute. Anyone know of any
cheaper ways to call to Guatemala?


On Sun, 23 Feb 2003 02:01:30 +0000, xiomi
<membe...@britishexpats.com> wrote:

>
>just curious.....
>how often does everyone communicate with their long distance
>spouse/fiance? My husband and I usually talk for at least a minute
>everyday. We chat every night on Yahoo messenger.........it's getting
>really old actually. Tonight I am very board........A year ago on a
>Saturday night I would be out with friends....and now I feel I've lost
>touch with a lot of them cause I spend so much time thinking about my
>husband or investigating INS procedures.
>
>"sigh"................why us??? :((

NOA 1: NSC on OCT. 19, 2002
NOA 2: waiting

PEACHSTER

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Originally posted by Sheila


LMAO I couldnt help but laugh at the first part of your reply. Also
kinda cute you doing something like that. :)

meauxna

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Originally posted by Scout
> Caro, we are thinking south.........along the Med.......maybe near
> Alicante or Malaga. We are going to try and catch one of the late
> deals once we get to London or to Cardiff. Any suggestions for along
> the Med? I haven't ever been to Spain but Pete just loves it.......we
> hope to maybe move there within 5 years or so if we can swing it and I
> want to get a feel for the south coast........I speak a little French,
> but no Spanish so we want to stay in an move to an area with a lot of
> ex-pats and a lot of sunshine.
>
> Cheers,
>
> Leslie & Pete

Hey Leslie, my folks have been living outside of Malaga (to the east)
for the past 2 years, and really enjoying it! It's more expensive than
I thought it might be, but I have old memories of Spain & it is very
modern now. Sadly, it did rain for our entire 2 week trip last
Christmas :(

Seville is/was wonderful as was Ronda. You will be able to find good
cheep-o deals from the UK (look ahead on teletext.com for an idea).
Hint, if you're going to move there, start checking it out now. It's
difficult for Americans to settle, tho you may be eligible for a
'spouse of EU citizen' type of residence permit like I was able to get
in Greece.

.

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On 24/2/03 1:01 AM, in article ukbj5v8u4m79ptjvc...@4ax.com,
"KnightHeart" <Knigh...@thezone.com> babbled:

> On Sun, 23 Feb 2003 06:34:33 GMT, La Migra <chi...@usa.com> wrote:
>
>> On 23/2/03 4:17 AM, in article ia3h5vg38gemkbcjk...@4ax.com,

>> "KnightHeart" <Knigh...@thezone.com> whined:


>>
>>> This is the kind of thing that has made me almost totally
>>> hardened towards illegals.
>>
>> "Illegals" translation: poor people that come here for a better life.
>

> That's a nice bleeding-heart, generalized definition. I hope
> you don't truly believe that illegals all fit that category.


>>
>>> I'm in the U.S. and my wife is Canadian. We
>>> met online and chatted for three years before she came down to meet me
>>> in person, and I proposed to her the second night she was here. I
>>> visited her for my Christmas vacation, then that July (last July) we
>>> got married. Since I work in a school, I had the summer off, and spent
>>> the entire time with her.
>>> In short, it has already costed us about $1,500 or so in
>>> various expenses to get her on a K3 so she can move here and go
>>> through the other mess to live her permanently. We get pushed around
>>> by the system, made to look like beggers pleading with the great gods
>>> of government to favor us, and told to wait upon their mercies to be
>>> with the ones we love.
>>
>> Is that the "illegal's" fault or that the Government does not care about
>> you, their citizen to speed up the process?
>

> It's the government's fault, for the most part. INS may be
> able to speed up our processing, though, if the problem of illegals
> pouring through the borders didn't exist, however.

Close the borders then, simple enough.

>>> And we're also told to pay for it, and nearly
>>> every step.
>>> Illegals, however, are given the royal treatment, it would
>>> seem.
>>
>> Do you have close contacts and ties with "illegal's" and say this from
>> experience or do you speak from what the media tells you?
>

> I say this from personal experience. I've worked with
> illegals, and while not all of them were the slacker types, there were
> those that were. I also know of others who worked with illegals and
> tell the same stories. Try to keep the condesending attitude to
> yourself, as I don't believe the media in nearly anything.

Other than shortnews.com.

>>> Free medical care,
>>
>> Everybody knows there is no such thing in America (save for the extremely
>> poor), that is why there are 50 million people without it. All people do
>> get access to ER care, but follow-up care is not required by law - and
>> neither is "free." And if you have ever been to an inner-city hospital's ER
>> you would be more than happy you do not get that kind of "care," but that is
>> off-topic.
>

> Ever look at the cost that ER care for illegals? It's in the
> millions, and will never be repaid. The illegals that give fake
> addresses and names, or come over just to get the care and then stay
> aren't doing taxpayers any favors, either.

Of course, a "legal" could and do that just the same.

>>> no responsibility,
>>
>> In what sense? Do you think "illegals" live well on their below minimum
>> wage salaries, grueling working hours, etc. Would you trade places with an
>> "illegal?"
>

> You'd be surprised in many of the cases I've seen. Perhaps you
> should look past the leftist propaganda you've obviously been fed.
>

And you the rightist propaganda.

>>
>>> and a fake ID gets you on
>>> welfare forever.
>>
>> That's not true, there are safeguards in place - but even assuming it is
>> true - is that an aspiration in life - to live on welfare forever? Give me
>> that offer and I'd rather die than live broke (well, not quite die, but
>> imbibe heavily).
>

> Heh..."safeguards" in place. That's rich....really. You need
> to get a taste of what's happening in the real world.... Welfare
> recepients trucking in big-screen TVs I can't afford, collecting under
> multiple aliases, and these "safeguards" can't stop them. While I have
> no problem with welfare as a temporary help, again, I've seen examples
> where the people love it, live pretty well, and have no desire to get
> off.
>>

Blaming an entire class for the actions of some is a sign of miniscule
intelligence.



>>> Hell, King George will grant you amnesty if you want
>>> it, and at no cost whatsoever!
>>
>> That is simply untrue. There are fees and costs involved, go to the BCIS
>> web site and check out the forms and fees sections. And it is Congress that
>> passes amnesty legislation.
>

> And if they can't pay?
>>

When you filed you should have asked that, maybe you could have gotten a fee
waiver.



>>> Illegals are allowed and ENCOURAGED to
>>> pour through our borders,
>>
>> Again, your anger seems to be towards the Government - it is not "illegals"
>> that have the political power to affect policy (they cannot vote, remember?)
>

> Illegals have the choice of staying in thier own country and
> trying to make it better, *legally* trying to get into the U.S., or
> hopping the border. I have no problem with those that wish to work and
> support themselves, whether legally or illegally, but do have a
> problem with the dregs that just want to suck off the tit of the
> government for free.
>>

I agree with your position entirely, no rebuttal.



>>> shoot at our border guards,
>>
>> That's ignorant, it is a felony to attack a federal agent and the U.S.
>> Attorney's Office with jurisdiction would be more than happy to prosecute
>> somebody who does that. Could your partner shoot at a border guard and get
>> away with it simply because she is not American? Be realistic or you will
>> lose credibility.
>

> I suggest you check out www.shortnews.com sometime. There have
> been quite a few news stories submitted where Mexican troops, and
> illegals wanting to cross the border, have taken shots and our guys
> and gotten clean away with it. The government's response? Nothing more
> than "stick by your gate, and don't take any real action."
>>

Then the perpetrators were not apprehended. If you think an illegal has the
"right" to shoot at federal agents you are delusional. Could I go down to
the Mexican border an snipe at feds? I can pretend to be Mexican, if
that'll help.



>>> and even try to
>>> sue if they undergo hardships while attempting to cross here.
>>
>> Citations? I would love to see caselaw re: that issue, but I have a feeling
>> there is none!
>

> A few months back I read a news article about Mexicans wanting
> to sue because crossing a certain area was dangerous due to the lack
> of water. They wanted the U.S. to build and maintain water stations to
> keep those wanting to cross nice and hydrated. I'd love to provide you
> with a link, but the site changed the URL as it was a "news of the
> day" type of thing. Again, the URL I did give you occasionally has
> links to these stories when they are first put up.
>>

Good backup of your "facts." A great lawyer thee would maketh! "Your
honor, I had the evidence, but my dog ate it - I swear tis true!"



>>> Nothing
>>> is asked of them, our population is told to leave them alone and
>>> persecuted if they try to stop the illegals,
>>
>> Explain how people are persecuted, again you are losing credibility making
>> outrageous claims.
>

> A group of citizens banded together to use force to keep
> illegals from crossing over in their area. The government was against
> it and didn't want them to do anything. These citizens banded together
> in the first place because the illegals were running around with
> weapons stealing and threatening people. What did the government do?
> Nothing. Those illegals didn't sound like they're just trying to "make
> a better life" for themselves. Again, I read the story via the
> Shortnews site.

They seem like a very reliable source, very unbiased (wink, wink).



>>
>>> and we're all told to
>>> accept it and not complain.
>>
>> Who told you that? The Government? Big business? The media? Who said
>> "KnightHeart, you're gonna have to accept those "illegals" and you better
>> not complain or you will be persecuted."? C'mon now.
>

> Leftist propaganda much like what you spewed in the first part
> of your reply. Plus, where did I say anything about being "persecuted"
> if we did complain? Nice of you to make something up and try to tear
> it down. Why not just add it to my quoted text next time?

The quote is a few lines up you ignoramus: "our population is told to leave
them alone and *persecuted* if they try to stop the illegals." When one
denies statements they have made, debate becomes rather burdensome.

>>> Try to do it the "right" way and you're screwed around, but do
>>> it the illegal way and you're home free in the U.S.
>>
>> It's true the legal way is harder, but is that not true of many things in
>> life?
>

> Depends on what those things are, and that hardly means we
> shouldn't disagree with it.

???

>> A McDonald's employee must work a year to earn $10,000, whilst any idiot
>> could just write a note on a piece of paper demanding $10,000 and walk in
>> and out of a bank with that money in 5 minutes. But, look at the possible
>> consequences. An "illegal" may be deported, etc. Your partner has slim
>> chances of ever facing that.
>

> "May" being the truth, and a sad one at that. My partner
> wouldn't face that because she's not a thief. However, I have been
> told that any crime would result in deportation for her, and that from
> the NSC. Whether or not that person was right, I can't say, but
> wouldn't doubt it.

It's called removal, fyi. And yes committing a CMT or aggravated felony
will get an alien, even LPR, removed. My point was more of an analogy how
doing the right thing is usually the better practice, did you get that?



>>> I frequently tell
>>> people that the reason my wife is having to stay in Canada and wait is
>>> because she's not Mexican and trying to hop the border without getting
>>> caught.
>>
>> Why don't you do that? Because you know that in the long run it's a bad
>> choice, admit it. Would you want to live "illegally" in another country?
>

> I don't do that because if she was caught, she could be kicked
> out for 5 years. Funny how the illegals I have seen that are slackers
> are still around, though....

They will deal with the consequences, or even if they don't life is not
fair, quit yer whining. Make something of your life and stop focusing on
others to scapegoat. You ever hear successful people whine and complain
about others (especially poor migrant workers)? Nope, know why? They focus
on themselves and not bitching about others. In my experience, 99 % of
people that bitch about illegals are envious that the illegals are doing
better than them, the natural born Amer-I-cans. The redneck losers must
have someone to blame for their failures in life - the illegals play that
role for them.

> Oh, and thanks. I notice that you haven't once actually helped
> me with any questions I had, but were damned quick to jump on my
> previous post. I truly appreciate it....
>
>
Fuck your questions, do not post political issues in a nonpolitical forum.
You wanna cry? Go to alt.california.illegals or alt.politics.immigration.
Sorry, I am a militant when it comes to illegals, they are my cause and
since the rightists have rabid lunatics against illegals there should be a
balance!

Ron

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Alëna and I talk about an hour and a half, 2 - 3 times a week, and exchange
emails daily. Had phone cards at $0.05/minute Atlanta -> Yekaterinburg, RU,
but lately cheapest I've found is $0.11/minute. Can't wait for TSC to get
off its ass and get our I-129F approved. Flying over in April for 3 weeks.
Ron

"xiomi" <membe...@britishexpats.com> wrote in message
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>

> just curious.....
> how often does everyone communicate with their long distance
> spouse/fiance? My husband and I usually talk for at least a minute
> everyday. We chat every night on Yahoo messenger.........it's getting
> really old actually. Tonight I am very board........A year ago on a
> Saturday night I would be out with friends....and now I feel I've lost
> touch with a lot of them cause I spend so much time thinking about my
> husband or investigating INS procedures.
>
> "sigh"................why us??? :((
>

Kae

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We both played on Veeshan for 2 1/2 years. Were in the same guild for
about year but then both left...we had become friends while in that
first guild. But due to things happening in our lives, lost touch for a
few months. We each thought the other had quit playing. Then I joined
a new guild. A month or so later, low and behold, my fiance joined! It
was since we "reunited" that time that we became extremely close
friends. And then it slowly grew to be much more.

Sorry for the ramble hehe. Which server do you guys play on? :)

jockgurl

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Feb 24, 2003, 8:33:35 AM2/24/03
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ok guys,read this and relate lol.Im in boston my fiance is in Dorset
uk and we talk every day on the phone.We also talk almost every day
via instant messenger,but because of time difference and my work
schedule we dont always get online together.He uses a thing called
QUIPP ,you need a BT line to use it but it only costs him 3.5p a
minute to call here.If anyone wants information jusr email or post and
ill get it for you.We also txt message each others cell phones and
have found a big list of free txt sites we can use,ill supply that too
if anyones interested.Its a really cool feeling when the txts come in
at intervals through the day because you feel sooo connected.When he
finally gets here i reckon with the money we save on phone bills well
be cash drunk lol,not know what to do with it.

sarina

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I talk or chat with my husband everyday....we get to see each other
ever 4-5 months.. Can't wait for the day when we can be together for
ever.... amen...

--
Sarina


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KissingtheBrit

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Originally posted by xiomi
> just curious.....
> how often does everyone communicate with their long distance
> spouse/fiance?

When we were apart, we spoke an hour every day by telephone Monday
through Thursday and Sunday. Fridays and Saturdays about four hours on
IM/webcam and four on the phone. An email back and forth every day.
Thank God for Yahoo Messenger.

;)

Ang

jcapulet

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We talk on the phone almost every day usually an hour...phone bills have
gotten up to $150-200 per month...ouch! (darn mci haha) I didn't realize
phone cards would be cheaper...but from all I've been reading I should
really look into it!!

We chat on yahoo messenger and play games online every night
too...lately it's been warlords battlecry, but we've also played
baldur's gate and IWD. We met on V:tMR. I can't wait till he's finally
here...then we'll LAN our games hahahaha...:D One of my friends joked
and asked if we would set up computers in different rooms when he's here
to maintain the long distance aspect (the smart-arse LOL!).

Juliet

sal_whit

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Originally posted by KissingtheBrit
> When we were apart, we spoke an hour every day by telephone Monday
> through Thursday and Sunday. Fridays and Saturdays about four hours
> on IM/webcam and four on the phone. An email back and forth every
> day. Thank God for Yahoo Messenger.
>
> ;)
>
> Ang


Same here.
When we were apart we would talk for around 1/2 hour a day by Phone,use
the webcam,IM and email all the time.
I even went as far as getting, an Afternoon/evening job ( 2 until 10 )so
as I would fit in with the time difference there.
Which meant has i got home from work so did he!!!:):)

Sal

chdv2001

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hi all!!!!! its been almost 6 months i have been away from my
hubby...K3 process is kinda long!!!!...we communicate by email, prepaid
phone cards, messengers(yahoo and MSN) and the WEBCAM....i try at least
once a week we get to talk.... coz im scared he has found another... :(
*womans intuition*

i wonder how long all of us are gonna be in this long distance love with
our spouses and fiancees .......

just here in limbo waiting again for a sign from the embassy in
manila...

christine

--
chdv2001


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wisdom over wealth

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Feb 24, 2003, 5:04:58 PM2/24/03
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....I try at least
once a week we get to talk.... coz I'm scared he has found another... :(
*womans intuition*

Oh that is terrible! I don't even what to go there.. there are some pretty
mean people here who might tear you up for that statement.. get the battle
gear ready!

sometimes * woman's intuition* is just heartburn! or lack of trust! time to
figure it out!

let us know if there is anything we can do!

Amber


meauxna

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Feb 24, 2003, 10:00:23 PM2/24/03
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Knightheart,

I think you missed the door for the popularity contest....it's the
*second* one on the right, down that hall....

Linda & Eric

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I am the USC and Eric is in France. We talk on the phone for at least
30 mins a day. Use MSN messenger when he gets home from work and I'm
still at work at that time and we share news websites or funny ones we
may have found.

I call him when I get home which works well because he is just getting
ready to go to bed. I use ECG which gives me a very good rate (4.5 cents
a min) to France. On the weekend, I call him when I get up and we also
call through out the day. I prefer the phone to the internet because at
least that way I can hear his sweet voice. :D

BritAmerica, I too had to wait a very long time for my divorce to be
over. Over 2 years, We've been "dating" for just a lil over 2 years now.
During Eric's visit 2 weeks ago I got my final divorce decree while he
was with me. What a good feeling.

Valentine's Day this year was the first holiday we have spent together.
Feb 15 is our relationship's "birthday" :D as he calls it which made him
being here doubly special. We would love to be able to set a date for
the wedding, but that's all up to the INS.

We've waited so long already, so now that we're coming into the final
stages of being together another 6 months is worth the wait. He just
bought me a beautiful ring for Valentine's day, every time I look at it
or get a comment on how pretty it is, it only reminds me how much I
love him. :)

I think the longest amount of time we were apart was just over 7 months.
That was a killer. I've lost track of how many times I would cry when I
heard his voice because I missed him so much. At least now that I'm not
waiting for the court to finish with my divorce, it finally feels like
things are moving.

I just thank my lucky stars that I'll be using VSC. Hopefully my hunny
will be with me soon and for good. I certainly can feel for all of you
who have to be away from the ones you love.

I don't know if he'll see this message, but, Eric hunny I love you :D
I know he reads the forum almost every day. :D

--
Linda


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Long Distance Love

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On 24/2/03 10:00 PM, in article 666761.1...@britishexpats.com,
"meauxna" <membe...@britishexpats.com> wrote:

That guys a wanker, pity the lady that has to share a life with 'im!

Noorah101

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I'm a US citizen and I talk to my fiance in Turkey every day or every other day
on the phone, call times range from 10 minutes to 40 minutes sometimes. He's
computer illiterate so the phone is our only line of communication and I love
hearing his voice....we're just about to start our journey into the K1
adventure, so wish us good luck!

wisdom over wealth

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Noorah101
I'm curious how you met your fiancé.


hmiller

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I talk to my fiance' every day. sms messages in the morning, then on
msn messenger for an hour or two during the day. Every Sunday is our
standing phone-date and has been for over a year. In all the
uncertainty with this process, it is nice to have something you can
control and look forward too. Those calls last around 2-3 hours, unless
I've just gotten the phone bill and feel we need 1 week of being dollar
conscious. It doesn't last long though. hehehe.

He's finally moving to the US next Thursday and we (jokingly) say we are
going to be dropping my cell phone off the bridge to celebrate not
having to rely on that crappy technology any more.

cdnclv

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Feb 25, 2003, 7:52:04 PM2/25/03
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We talk between 45-60 minutes every day and see each other almost every
weekend. He lives only a three hour drive away. I really don't know
how we manage to talk so long one day after another since our lives are
pretty boring. We don't do much when we're apart. It will be great
when we are together and can spend all that money we'll save on phone
bills and gas.

wisdom over wealth

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Feb 26, 2003, 12:40:28 AM2/26/03
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KnightHeart
Is there a reason your so snippy?
Maybe there is something we can help you with. I'm sure your as frustrated
and angry as the rest of us and that makes you so brash.. or maybe your just
like that... but cut us some slack and we'll cut you some.

Musketeers!


Expat

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On 27/2/03 3:16 AM, in article irhr5vc0unsq9trcm...@4ax.com,
"KnightHeart" <Knigh...@thezone.com> wrote:

Mate, enough with your bullshit rage, nobody cares. If you hate the Gov't
go out on a shooting spree (don't be a fat ass sitting on the couch watching
the terrorists, what a wanker) or something.

Fuck your wife, she, like the "illegals" has no "right" to be in America!
(Your xenophobia cannot be half-hearted, go all the way with it.)

If you really loved her you would go to Canada, eh?

Enough with your political diatribes though, this is not the proper forum
for it, try alt.politics.immigration or alt.california.illegals.

I agree, the Gov't is a piece of shit, btw. Do something about it other
than whining.

Hopefully the BCIS won't approve her visa, save the poor woman from having
to live with you!

Now get to steppin'!

> I'm sorry if you think any of my comments are directed at
> anyone else besides the person I'm replying to. They aren't. If I am
> "snippy" with someone, it is just that person, no one else.
> As it stands, I am fed up with the government. I despise it
> and the endless incompetence, hypocrisy, and stupidity that dominates
> it throughout every single layer. I pay my taxes, I don't cause
> trouble, and I try to do things the legal way, and yet my wife is
> clear across the country and deep in Canada, because the government
> won't allow her in, but it doesn't do a damned thing to stop the
> endless tide of illegals, especially those who only wish to either
> harm the nation or get a free ride. I don't care about sincerely
> "seeking a better life" and working to attain it. My wife would come
> and work if she was allowed, but I don't have any pity for those
> wanting to suck my tax dollars up and do nothing while those of us who
> do it legally are stuck twiddling our thumbs and talking to our
> spouses/loved ones over the phone. If terrorists went on a killing
> spree wiping out politicians, I'd kick back with an iced tea and enjoy
> the show at this point, and would consider it a great thing to weed
> out the chaff. Maybe then anyone who ran for office would be a person
> who really wanted to set things right and not simply gain power for
> themselves.
> None of this anger is directed at people here, since no one
> here controls the government. If I'm snippy at individuals, it's
> because they've basically stated that I'm wrong to feel the way I do
> or try to invalidate my opinion, while being arrogant themselves. Any
> help I get from anyone is always appreciated, of course, so I couldn't
> get snippy with them at all.
>

Candice

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Feb 27, 2003, 10:51:23 AM2/27/03
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Hello everyone,

I have read all the stories and all I can say is you guys are sooooooo
lucky! You are really blessed to be able to talk to them so much. My
husband is in Morocco with no money (the economy and unemployment rate
is so bad). He tries to email me at cafee's when he has a little
money and I email him a few times a week, because I know he won't be
able to check that often and won't have much time when he does, I use
to email HUGE letters everyday, but it was hard for him to read them
all because he didn't have much time on the internet. We have chated
a few times, but that too is expensive for him. We write sail mail
too! But what we get is 20min phone calls 3 times a week. Calling to
Morocco is BEYOUND expensive, it is one of the most expensive places
to call. SO I buy some phone cards, the best avaible. I HATE PHONE
CARDS!! We have dates so that we can make sure we don't miss each
other because that just adds to the expence. I pray that this will
soon be over.......
If I had the money I would call everyday......calling from Morocco is
even MORE expensive...sa la vive! OUr love is strong and we are still
"real" with each other so that is what counts!

DataAngel

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Feb 27, 2003, 2:13:38 PM2/27/03
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> just curious.....
> how often does everyone communicate with their long distance
> spouse/fiance? My husband and I usually talk for at least a minute
> everyday. We chat every night on Yahoo messenger.........it's getting
> really old actually. Tonight I am very board........A year ago on a
> Saturday night I would be out with friends....and now I feel I've lost
> touch with a lot of them cause I spend so much time thinking about my
> husband or investigating INS procedures.
>
> "sigh"................why us??? :((

When Ian was still in Canada we'd e-mail during the work day, then
talk for about half an hour at night, right before bed. Sometimes on
weekends we'd talk mid-day.

You know... you CAN still go out with your friends.

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