Residustrial
tinwhistler
Red Hook's current eclectic mix of living artists and industrial
businesses create a neighborhood coined "Residustrial" in 2008 by
artist and resident John P. Missale. [end excerpt]
It seems to me that the artistic abilities of the residents are
extraneous to the coinage, which should apply to any neighborhood
having a mix of industry and residents, no? Do auers think, as I do,
that this term will catch on?
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Glenn Knickerbocker
> It seems to me that the artistic abilities of the residents are
> extraneous to the coinage, which should apply to any neighborhood
> having a mix of industry and residents, no?
Who but artists would invent a special name for it? Neighborhoods like
that with ordinary residents are just called slums.
ŹR
tinwhistler
There are artists, and then there are con artists -- the latter would
probably include a few name inventors.
Roland Hutchinson
> From Wikipedia’s entry for Red Hook, a neighborhood of Brooklyn:
>
> Red Hook's current eclectic mix of living artists and industrial
> businesses create a neighborhood coined "Residustrial" in 2008 by
> artist and resident John P. Missale. [end excerpt]
>
> It seems to me that the artistic abilities of the residents are
> extraneous to the coinage, which should apply to any neighborhood
> having a mix of industry and residents, no?
From what I know of the area, I imagine that at least some of
those "artistic residents" are engaged in welding or casting or otherwise
fabricating large sculptures and otherwise monumental objects d'art in
industrial premises. It's a place people go to do art that there simply
isn't room to do in Manhattan even if you could afford studio space there.
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mb
> > > extraneous to the coinage, which should apply to any neighborhood
> > > having a mix of industry and residents, no?
>
> > Who but artists would invent a special name for it? Neighborhoods like
> > that with ordinary residents are just called
> There are artists, and then there are con artists -- the latter would
> probably include a few name inventors.
If these name inventors are also the coiners of "residustrial" I would
say that this con doesn't get a pass stamp. At least not unanimously:
The first idea it evokes due to the permanence of the <u> in the joint
spot is "residue", then industrial residue > pollution.
Steve Hayes
<ozzie...@post.harvard.edu> wrote:
>From Wikipedia’s entry for Red Hook, a neighborhood of Brooklyn:
>
>Red Hook's current eclectic mix of living artists and industrial
>businesses create a neighborhood coined "Residustrial" in 2008 by
>artist and resident John P. Missale. [end excerpt]
>
>It seems to me that the artistic abilities of the residents are
>extraneous to the coinage, which should apply to any neighborhood
>having a mix of industry and residents, no? Do auers think, as I do,
>that this term will catch on?
I think "resindustrial" would be better.
"Residustrial" suggests abandoned factories -- a residue of industry.
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Nick Spalding
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on Wed, 11 Jun 2008 13:40:47 -0700 (PDT):
> [I tried to post from motzarella.org, but they wouldn’t send me a
> password.]
They took their time sending mine, at least 24 hours I think.
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tinwhistler
> tinwhistler wrote, in
> <c0fe178b-fcaf-4e00-858b-857f4ed48...@r37g2000prm.googlegroups.com>
> on Wed, 11 Jun 2008 13:40:47 -0700 (PDT):
>
> > [I tried to post from motzarella.org, but they wouldn’t send me a
> > password.]
>
> They took their time sending mine, at least 24 hours I think.
> --
> Nick Spalding
> BrE/IrE
I had some e-mail from Herr Wolfgang Weyand, and have been trying to
re-register, without success. Maybe the US quota is full up, after we
put shrub in office twice. Life is short.
Glenn Knickerbocker
> "Residustrial" suggests abandoned factories -- a residue of industry.
That's probably also intentional. As Roland pointed out, the appeal is
in recycling unused industrial facilities into art studios.
ŹR
Robin Bignall
<ozzie...@post.harvard.edu> wrote:
>From Wikipedia’s entry for Red Hook, a neighborhood of Brooklyn:
>
>Red Hook's current eclectic mix of living artists and industrial
>businesses create a neighborhood coined "Residustrial" in 2008 by
>artist and resident John P. Missale. [end excerpt]
>
>It seems to me that the artistic abilities of the residents are
>extraneous to the coinage, which should apply to any neighborhood
>having a mix of industry and residents, no? Do auers think, as I do,
>that this term will catch on?
I don't know, but near me there's a country road three or four miles
long with a couple of dozen fine country houses spread along it, and
interspersed with them are many businesses with heavy lorries going to
and fro, a bus depot, a couple of plant and flower nurseries and a
small gravel works. I'd say it was an area where either the local
planning laws had completely been ignored, or most of it was developed
before we had any.
--
Robin
(BrE)
Herts, England
tony cooper
If that area was in this area, some developer would purchase some
parcels of property and erect more fine country houses. People would
pay outrageous prices for these houses.
Then they would form a homeowner's association and jointly bring a
lawsuit to close the gravel works because the noise of the trucks
bothered them. Then they would sue the plant and flower nurseries
because the appearance brought down the property values of the fine
country houses.
No matter that the businesses were there when they bought the house
and they knew that trucks traveled the road and nurseries are not as
attractive as well-kept estate lawns.
--
Tony Cooper - Orlando, Florida
Don Aitken
<docr...@ntlworld.com> wrote:
Which would be around 1948. The idea that residential and industrial
must be separated began to be enforced about then. As Gillian Tindall
puts it, writing of Kentish Town: "Small industries in which people
can find work near their homes have been an essential part of inner
London districts, ever since they assumed their metropolitan identity.
To apply to them the same criteria that one applies to suburbs built
purely as residential quarters is inappropriate. Yet 'zoning' -
industry here, living space there - without flexibility or regard for
pre-existing situations was one of the basic concepts of the County of
London plan [1944], and one that still lingers, destroying jobs and
bedevilling planning applications".
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Robin Bignall
Theoretically, that would not be possible in today's England. Behind,
and surrounding, the houses and businesses, are green fields with the
odd livestock scattered about. The whole area is probably designated
as agricultural. I say 'theoretically' because just up the road
they're expanding some existing industrial zones and building more on
land that was green fields when we moved here. But this development
is in Herts, and the country road I mentioned is just over the border
in Essex, so maybe the county rules are slightly different.
WRT Don's post, the houses and businesses on that country road look
well-established, pre-war, probably. Many of the houses have large,
and obviously now unused, water tanks on stilts in their gardens. The
two nurseries and the bus depot obviously have mains water, so the
houses were built before it was installed.
the Omrud
> WRT Don's post, the houses and businesses on that country road look
> well-established, pre-war, probably. Many of the houses have large,
> and obviously now unused, water tanks on stilts in their gardens. The
> two nurseries and the bus depot obviously have mains water, so the
> houses were built before it was installed.
Could they be diesel tanks? These were quite common in rural areas.
--
David
Robin Bignall
I don't think so. Those stilts are as high as the roofs (rooves?) of
the houses. Further along on the same route there's a huge, concrete
water tank just as high and maybe 40 feet in diameter, presumably to
serve the handful of houses near it. On Thursday I'll try to remember
to take the camera and get a photo.
Skitt
> the Omrud wrote:
>> Robin Bignall wrote:
>>> WRT Don's post, the houses and businesses on that country road look
>>> well-established, pre-war, probably. Many of the houses have large,
>>> and obviously now unused, water tanks on stilts in their gardens.
>>> The two nurseries and the bus depot obviously have mains water, so
>>> the houses were built before it was installed.
>>
>> Could they be diesel tanks? These were quite common in rural areas.
>
> I don't think so. Those stilts are as high as the roofs (rooves?) of
> the houses. Further along on the same route there's a huge, concrete
> water tank just as high and maybe 40 feet in diameter, presumably to
> serve the handful of houses near it. On Thursday I'll try to remember
> to take the camera and get a photo.
That reminds me of that summer's eve in Thule, when I was in charge of
quarters at the Ordnance shop. About thirty yards in front of the shop and
off to the right a bit was a big gasoline tank, mounted on stilts about as
high as a roof of a house would be. Someone was refueling his truck, and he
had managed to set the whole thing on fire. Spectacular, but no one was
hurt.
A picture of the shop is at
http://www.geocities.com/opus731/Shop.jpg
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Skitt
has lived in these places:
http://www.geocities.com/opus731/places.html