=SDC= Q17: Sold out

[Jerry Friedman]

Urdu is the source of this word, which has a homonym in the thesaurus.

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Jerry Friedman, T. O. Panelist

[Alan Curry]

In article <e53b3034-14eb-4769...@n9g2000yqn.googlegroups.com>,

Jerry Friedman <je...@totally-official.com> wrote:
>Urdu is the source of this word, which has a homonym in the thesaurus.

Does some thesaurus thinks "bizarre" sounds like "bazaar"? The "i" and "a"
are distinct to me.

--
Alan Curry

[Harrison Hill]

On 2 Sep, 07:06, pac...@kosh.dhis.org (Alan Curry) wrote:
> In article <e53b3034-14eb-4769-b8be-0a2c1283c...@n9g2000yqn.googlegroups.com>,

> Jerry Friedman  <je...@totally-official.com> wrote:
>
> >Urdu is the source of this word, which has a homonym in the thesaurus.
>
> Does some thesaurus thinks "bizarre" sounds like "bazaar"? The "i" and "a"
> are distinct to me.

As is "Italian" and "Urdu" to me.

[Harrison Hill]

"Punch".

It has to be less obvious than this, but wiki's handy "List of English
words of Hindi or Urdu origin" is starting point for people like me.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_English_words_of_Hindi_or_Urdu_origin

It is the way we are these days - knowledge condensed down into
factoid lists. Wiki only grudgingly recognises one of the greatest
writers in world literature:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jean_de_Joinville

[Mark Brader]

Alan Curry:

> Does some thesaurus thinks "bizarre" sounds like "bazaar"? The "i" and "a"
> are distinct to me.

Schwa and schwa for me.
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[Alan Curry]

In article <69f95a63-c399-4b5e...@gk4g2000vbb.googlegroups.com>,

I took http://en.wiktionary.org/wiki/Category:English_terms_derived_from_Urdu
as good enough. Nobody's saying I'm right though.

--
Alan Curry

[Guy Barry]

"Mark Brader" wrote in message
news:CIidnRA2ZKyehN7N...@vex.net...

> Alan Curry:
> > Does some thesaurus thinks "bizarre" sounds like "bazaar"? The "i" and
> > "a"
> > are distinct to me.

> Schwa and schwa for me.

I have /I/ in "bizarre" and schwa in "bazaar". Otherwise they're identical.

--
Guy Barry

[Athel Cornish-Bowden]

On 2012-09-02 08:29:55 +0000, Mark Brader said:

> Alan Curry:
>> Does some thesaurus thinks "bizarre" sounds like "bazaar"? The "i" and "a"
>> are distinct to me.
>
> Schwa and schwa for me.

For me too.

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athel

[R H Draney]

Athel Cornish-Bowden filted:

Whoever composed this question must have been thinking of:

"Camelot! Camelot!
I know it sounds a bit bezoar!"

....r


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Me? Sarcastic?
Yeah, right.

[Jerry Friedman]

On Sep 2, 1:41 am, Harrison Hill <harrisonhill2...@gmail.com> wrote:
> On 2 Sep, 04:57, Jerry Friedman <je...@totally-official.com> wrote:
>
> > Urdu is the source of this word, which has a homonym in the thesaurus.
>
> > --
> > Jerry Friedman, T. O. Panelist
>
> "Punch".
>
> It has to be less obvious than this, but wiki's handy "List of English
> words of Hindi or Urdu origin" is starting point for people like me.
>

> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_English_words_of_Hindi_or_Urdu_o...
...

Maybe I should say that "Urdu is the source of this word" doesn't
quite have its most obvious literal meaning.

[Athel Cornish-Bowden]

On 2012-09-02 03:57:46 +0000, Jerry Friedman said:

> Urdu is the source of this word, which has a homonym in the thesaurus.

Horde (both "horde" and "Urdu" are derived from the same Turkish word),
and "whored" is a homonym. So is "hoard" for that matter.

--
athel

[CDB]

On 02/09/2012 8:14 AM, Jerry Friedman wrote:

> Harrison Hill <harrisonhill2...@gmail.com> wrote:
>> Jerry Friedman <je...@totally-official.com> wrote:

>>> Urdu is the source of this word, which has a homonym in the thesaurus.

>> "Punch".

>> It has to be less obvious than this, but wiki's handy "List of English
>> words of Hindi or Urdu origin" is starting point for people like me.

>> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_English_words_of_Hindi_or_Urdu_o...
> ...

> Maybe I should say that "Urdu is the source of this word" doesn't
> quite have its most obvious literal meaning.

The worde "horde" (army), from the Turkish source of "Urdu" (camp talk),
has a homonym "hoard" (treasure, or thesaurus?), but I don't get "sold out".

[Jerry Friedman]

Thank you! Now to see whether anyone thinks that "horde" and "hoard"
aren't pronounced the same.

"Sold out" was my attempt at the third homonym.

[CDB]

On 02/09/2012 9:49 AM, CDB wrote:

>>> Jerry Friedman wrote:

>>>> Urdu is the source of this word, which has a homonym in the thesaurus.

[...]

> The worde "horde" (army), from the Turkish source of "Urdu" (camp talk),
> has a homonym "hoard" (treasure, or thesaurus?), but I don't get "sold
> out".

Ooh, "whored"?

[Iain Archer]

Jerry Friedman wrote on Sun, 2 Sep 2012

I'm afraid it just misled me. I don't count "whored" as a homonym.
Never mind. I'll take it that the titles may sometimes be hints of the
looser kind.
--
Iain Archer

[Jerry Friedman]

Somehow I missed this response, but it's earlier than CDB's according
to Google Groups. So thank you for the actual sheepwinner, and my
profound apologies to CDB.

--
Jerry Friedman, T. O. answermisser

[Athel Cornish-Bowden]

I thought it wa earlier, but I wan't going to complain. (The editors'
decision is final, as they say). My first sheep! I can hold my head up
in public again.


--
athel

[CDB]

C'est la vie. Reading the group through aioe, a notorious dropper of
postings, I still don't have it, except through your posting.
Congratulations, Athel.

[Mark Brader]

Jerry Friedman:

> Somehow I missed this response, but it's earlier than CDB's according
> to Google Groups.

The Date lines also show Athel's posting as earlier, by about an hour:

Athel: Date: Sun, 2 Sep 2012 14:51:03 +0200
C.D.: Date: Sun, 02 Sep 2012 09:49:13 -0400

And Athel's posting reached Giganews first (article #1944459 vs. #1944466).
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