=SDC= Q02: Two Kinds Of Thieves
Vinny Burgoo
person, but their names don't resemble each other. Name the city and the
university.
--
VB
Peter Moylan
los Ángeles del Río de Porciúncula.
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For an e-mail address, see my web page.
Athel Cornish-Bowden
<inv...@peter.pmoylan.org.invalid> said:
> Vinny Burgoo wrote:
>> An American city and a university in that city are named after the same
>> person, but their names don't resemble each other. Name the city and the
>> university.
>>
> Loyola Marymount University, in El Pueblo de Nuestra Señora la Reina de
> los Ángeles del Río de Porciúncula.
Darn it. I thought of both of these, but I failed to see the connection.
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athel
Jerry Friedman
> On 2011-08-17 12:54:35 +0200, Peter Moylan
>
> > Vinny Burgoo wrote:
> >> An American city and a university in that city are named after the same
> >> person, but their names don't resemble each other. Name the city and the
> >> university.
>
> > los ngeles del R o de Porci ncula.
>
> Darn it. I thought of both of these, but I failed to see the connection.
Take heart (or considering who Peter was talking about, take heart of
grace). The T. O. city and university are connected with the slug and
more directly named for the eponym. I can also tell you he had an
honest, honorable heir.
--
Jerry Friedman
James Hogg
Would Saint Mary's College in Notre Dame count too?
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James
R H Draney
>
>On Aug 17, 8:22=A0am, Athel Cornish-Bowden <athel...@yahoo.co.uk> wrote:
>> On 2011-08-17 12:54:35 +0200, Peter Moylan
>> <inva...@peter.pmoylan.org.invalid> said:
>>
>> > Vinny Burgoo wrote:
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>> >> person, but their names don't resemble each other. Name the city and t=
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>> >> university.
>>
>> > Loyola Marymount University, in El Pueblo de Nuestra Se ora la Reina de
>> > los ngeles del R o de Porci ncula.
>>
>> Darn it. I thought of both of these, but I failed to see the connection.
>
>Take heart (or considering who Peter was talking about, take heart of
>grace). The T. O. city and university are connected with the slug and
>more directly named for the eponym. I can also tell you he had an
>honest, honorable heir.
I'm going to go out on a limb and say we're not talking about Georgetown
University in Washington....r
--
Me? Sarcastic?
Yeah, right.
Harrison Hill
> Athel Cornish-Bowden wrote:
> > On 2011-08-17 12:54:35 +0200, Peter Moylan
>
> >> Vinny Burgoo wrote:
> >>> An American city and a university in that city are named after the same
> >>> person, but their names don't resemble each other. Name the city and the
> >>> university.
>
> >> Loyola Marymount University, in El Pueblo de Nuestra Señora la Reina de
> >> los Ángeles del Río de Porciúncula.
>
> > Darn it. I thought of both of these, but I failed to see the connection.
>
> Would Saint Mary's College in Notre Dame count too?
You have more chance than I would have had with St James Academy in
San Diego.
Vinny Burgoo
A sporting chance?
--
VB
Jerry Friedman
...
> The T. O. city and university are connected with the slug and
> more directly named for the eponym. I can also tell you he had an
> honest, honorable heir.
Maybe I should have written "honourable"--and some will consider the
quotation marks appropriate, here and elsewhere in the hint.
--
Jerry Friedman, T. O. Panelist
John Varela
wrote:
They aren't named after the same person.
--
John Varela
Peter Moylan
Following a false lead, I came across Noah Webster College, whose slogan
is "Training Servant Leaders for the 21st Century". Is there much of a
market for college-educated servants?
Peter Moylan
web site doesn't have an address anywhere. On the "admission" page,
potential students are told that they can register online, but no link
is given. Obviously a university that relies on people who can guess the
city and find them in the Yellow Pages. Or perhaps it's an intelligence
test.
[1] Worthington University, in case anyone wants to follow that lead.
Worthington was the person who coined the word "slug".
Jerry Friedman
wrote:
> Jerry Friedman wrote:
> > On Aug 17, 8:42 am, Jerry Friedman <jerry_fried...@yahoo.com> wrote:
> > ...
>
> >> The T. O. city and university are connected with the slug and
> >> more directly named for the eponym. I can also tell you he had an
> >> honest, honorable heir.
>
> > Maybe I should have written "honourable"--and some will consider the
> > quotation marks appropriate, here and elsewhere in the hint.
>
> Following a false lead, I came across Noah Webster College, whose slogan
> is "Training Servant Leaders for the 21st Century". Is there much of a
> market for college-educated servants?
If they're public servants.
Someone is about to tell me that "servant-leaders" lead servants and
"servant leaders" are leaders who are servants, or vice-versa.
--
Jerry Friedman
R H Draney
>> University in Washington....r
>
>They aren't named after the same person.
After whom is the county in which Seattle is located named?...r
Vinny Burgoo
Another hint: The university and the city both include a silent H.
--
VB
T. O. Panellist
Skitt
> John Varela filted:
>> R H Draney wrote:
>>> I'm going to go out on a limb and say we're not talking about Georgetown
>>> University in Washington....r
>>
>> They aren't named after the same person.
>
> After whom is the county in which Seattle is located named?...r
>
William Rufus King.
--
Skitt (SF Bay Area)
http://come.to/skitt
R H Draney
>
>R H Draney wrote:
>> John Varela filted:
>>> R H Draney wrote:
>
>>>> I'm going to go out on a limb and say we're not talking about Georgetown
>>>> University in Washington....r
>>>
>>> They aren't named after the same person.
>>
>> After whom is the county in which Seattle is located named?...r
>>
>
>William Rufus King.
True until 1986, false since 2005, indeterminate between those dates....r
Skitt
Well, I worked there in 1967-1970.
Once something is named for someone, does proposing something else
without altering that name really change things? Just wondering.
I know -- legally it did (in 2005), but the original naming can't be
denied. Poor Rufus ...
John Varela
<inv...@peter.pmoylan.org.invalid> wrote:
> [1] Worthington University, in case anyone wants to follow that lead.
> Worthington was the person who coined the word "slug".
"Slug" meaning a shelless snail, "slug" meaning a counterfeit coin
for the slot machine or parking meter, or "slug" meaning a blow with
the fist?
--
John Varela
Oliver Cromm
Big help ...
Chatham University in Pittsburgh, PA?
--
'Ah yes, we got that keyboard from Small Gods when they threw out
their organ. Unfortunately for complex theological reasons they
would only give us the white keys, so we can only program in C'.
Colin Fine in sci.lang
Jerry Friedman
wrote:
> * Vinny Burgoo:
>
>
>
>
>
> > In alt.usage.english, Vinny Burgoo wrote:
> >>In alt.usage.english, Harrison Hill wrote:
> >>>On Aug 17, 3:48 pm, James Hogg <Jas.H...@gOUTmail.com> wrote:
> >>>> Athel Cornish-Bowden wrote:
> >>>> > On 2011-08-17 12:54:35 +0200, Peter Moylan
> >>>> > <inva...@peter.pmoylan.org.invalid> said:
>
> >>>> >> Vinny Burgoo wrote:
> >>>> >>> An American city and a university in that city are named after the same
> >>>> >>> person, but their names don't resemble each other. Name the city and the
> >>>> >>> university.
>
> >>>> >> los ngeles del R o de Porci ncula.
>
>
> >>>> Would Saint Mary's College in Notre Dame count too?
>
> >>>You have more chance than I would have had with St James Academy in
> >>>San Diego.
>
> >>A sporting chance?
>
> > Another hint: The university and the city both include a silent H.
>
> Big help ...
>
> Chatham University in Pittsburgh, PA?
Thank you!
> --
> 'Ah yes, we got that keyboard from Small Gods when they threw out
> their organ. Unfortunately for complex theological reasons they
> would only give us the white keys, so we can only program in C'.
> Colin Fine in sci.lang
Shalam ching!
Snidely
...
> Vinny Burgoo wrote:
>> An American city and a university in that city are named after the same
>> person, but their names don't resemble each other. Name the city and the
>> university.
>>
> Loyola Marymount University, in El Pueblo de Nuestra Señora la Reina de
> los Ángeles del Río de Porciúncula.
>
"There's a shadow hanging over me."
Strange that in the 20 or so years I've been a neighbor there unto, that
I'd never heard the del Rio portion. Perhaps I am fortunate that I could
follow whicker footsteps far enough to be enlightened.
/dps
Martin Ambuhl
msh210
> Once something is named for someone, does proposing something else
> without altering that name really change things? Just wondering.
> I know -- legally it did (in 2005), but the original naming can't be
> denied. Poor Rufus ...
I suppose if someone asks "whom was it named for" (with the past
participle), the answer is William Rufus, since that was the source of
the name at the time the name was given; OTOH, if someone asks "whom
is it named for" (with the adjective), the answer is Martin Luther,
Junior.
Michael Hamm
Roland Hutchinson
Or slug meaning the line of type or keyword identifying a newspaper story?
Or slug meaning a gulp of liquid?
Or slug the amount of mass accelerated that a pound of force will
accelerate at a rate of one foot per second per second?
--
Roland Hutchinson
He calls himself "the Garden State's leading violist da gamba,"
... comparable to being ruler of an exceptionally small duchy.
--Newark (NJ) Star Ledger ( http://tinyurl.com/RolandIsNJ )
Jerry Friedman
I was pilfering your Cormo from the Pirates. Here it is.
--
Jerry Friedman, T. O.Sheepsteeler
Peter Moylan
I doubt that we'll ever track down the coiners of those other words.
R H Draney
>
>Peter Moylan <inv...@peter.pmoylan.org.invalid> scribbled something like
>...
>> Loyola Marymount University, in El Pueblo de Nuestra Señora la Reina de
>> los Ángeles del Río de Porciúncula.
>>
>
>"There's a shadow hanging over me."
>
>Strange that in the 20 or so years I've been a neighbor there unto, that
>I'd never heard the del Rio portion. Perhaps I am fortunate that I could
>follow whicker footsteps far enough to be enlightened.
To be fair, have you *seen* the Los Angeles River?...not a lot of the world's
rivers are paved, you know....
I've always heard the full name as "la Ciudad del Pueblo etc"....r
Snidely
> Snidely filted:
>>
>>Peter Moylan <inv...@peter.pmoylan.org.invalid> scribbled something
>>like ...
>
>>> Loyola Marymount University, in El Pueblo de Nuestra Se�ora la Reina
>>> de los �ngeles del R�o de Porci�ncula.
>>>
>>
>>"There's a shadow hanging over me."
>>
>>Strange that in the 20 or so years I've been a neighbor there unto,
>>that I'd never heard the del Rio portion. Perhaps I am fortunate that
>>I could follow whicker footsteps far enough to be enlightened.
>
> To be fair, have you *seen* the Los Angeles River?...not a lot of the
> world's rivers are paved, you know....
You mean other than watching the movie Greease? It does looks more
impressive at Ocean Blvd than at Wardlow Rd, doesn't it? I last poked
around north of LAUPT when there were more rail yards there; I haven't
checked out the new riverwalks.
Significant portions of the Santa Ana are paved, too, you know. And the
San Gabriel.
I'm used to hanging out in Orange County, but I see I am now close to the
headwaters of the Los Angeles River ... if I can figure out where those
officially are.
> I've always heard the full name as "la Ciudad del Pueblo etc"....r
/dps
Vinny Burgoo
Picky!
--
VB
Frank S
"R H Draney" <dado...@spamcop.net> wrote in message
news:j2nhf...@drn.newsguy.com...
> Snidely filted:
>>
>>Peter Moylan <inv...@peter.pmoylan.org.invalid> scribbled something like
>>...
>
>>> los �ngeles del R�o de Porci�ncula.
>>>
>>
>>"There's a shadow hanging over me."
>>
>>Strange that in the 20 or so years I've been a neighbor there unto, that
>>I'd never heard the del Rio portion. Perhaps I am fortunate that I could
>>follow whicker footsteps far enough to be enlightened.
>
> To be fair, have you *seen* the Los Angeles River?...not a lot of the
> world's
> rivers are paved, you know....
>
> I've always heard the full name as "la Ciudad del Pueblo etc"....r
>
>
>
Local TV showed a 30-second "feature" directing viewers to a company that
offers kayak tours of the Los Angeles River. With video. Really.
Frank Sheffield
San Diego CA USA
Evan Kirshenbaum
> Vinny Burgoo wrote:
>> An American city and a university in that city are named after the same
>> person, but their names don't resemble each other. Name the city and the
>> university.
>>
> Loyola Marymount University, in El Pueblo de Nuestra Señora la Reina de
> los Ángeles del Río de Porciúncula.
"Sobre el", not "del"--at least that's what I turned up when I wrote
about it in '06:
"El Pueblo de la Reina de los Angeles sobre el Río de Porciúncula"
officially. The area had already been named "Nuestra Señora de
los Angeles de Porciúncula" some years earlier.
Both the village and the river (which according to some accounts
was named simply "Porciúncula" and variously, according to others,
"[Nuestra Señora][la Reina de] los Angeles de Porciúncula") were
named after the feast of "Nuestra Señora de los Angeles de
Porciúncula", which the expedition had just celebrated the day
before they got there. The feast name refers back to a cathedral
named the Porciúncula ("little portion") associated with
St. Francis of Assisi, which had a mural of Mary with angels.
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Evan Kirshenbaum +------------------------------------
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