Either X-Ville is going or I am (apologies to Oscar Wilde)
The Great American Gene Company
In <32B806...@erinet.com> Bob Powell <q...@erinet.com> writes:
>
>I don't think you are going to make a dent on the X'villains by
>threatening to take your bat and ball and go home.
>
>Your name, despite its illustrious title, is strangely unknown to me.
>Come to think of it, I am unable to associate any of the publicly
>departed with memorable posts, whereas ALL of the prominent X'villains
>have contributed much that contained equal parts insight and delight.
>
>If I were you, Herr Doktor, I'd be going to Red Alert about now.
>
>And, oh yes. Please put me in your kill file. I have already put you
in
>mine.
>
>Cheers,
>
>Bob
>X'ville public radio personality
>
>NB. The opinions of the public radio personality are not necessarily
>those of the management or underwriters of WATX, 101.3 on your FM
dial.
Dear Bob:
Sorry my comment evoked such a snot-nosed comment from you.
I believe there is a place for both an X-files NG and X-Ville.
If you are unaware of the dissention among the non-X-Villers, then you
have not been paying much attention.
Despite the silly comment about taking my bat and ball and going home,
or your anti-intellectual "Herr Doktor", I will try again to reason
with you: X-Ville is making the NG uninteresting for non-X-Villers.
Is there the possibility that we can establish a NG home for X-Ville?
I am delighted that my name is unfamiliar to you.
-Mike
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cust...@nfi.com
On 12/18/96 3:21PM, in message <599jo9$bs0$7...@news.sas.ab.ca>,
pwe...@freenet.edmonton.ab.ca wrote:
> Dr. Michael T. MacDonell (sen...@ix.netcom.com) wrote:
> : X-Ville Folks:
>
> : Please consider creating a new NG for X-Ville. Loyal NG participants
> : are already leaving, and I will probably join them soon.
> : You can have X-Ville, but do consider having it somewhere else.
>
> : Mike
>
> Let me think about it...ummmmmmm...NO!
>
> --The Paulverizer
> X-Ville's:
> Owner/Bartender--Puffy's Saloon
> Atheist Minister--Church conveniently located at the bar in Puffy's;
> all are welcome
> Rent-A-Cop--HOME Asylum
>
> My other .sig is a Rolls Royce
>
You shoulda said your final good byes Paulverizer! Instead you just flat out
said no.
Kath
X-Ville BabySitter
HouseKeeping Manager-HOME Asylum
Bob Powell
pwe...@freenet.edmonton.ab.ca
Dr. Michael T. MacDonell
X-Ville Folks:
Please consider creating a new NG for X-Ville. Loyal NG participants
are already leaving, and I will probably join them soon.
You can have X-Ville, but do consider having it somewhere else.
Mike
Goat of Death
sen...@ix.netcom.com(Dr. Michael T. MacDonell) wrote:
>X-Ville Folks:
>Please consider creating a new NG for X-Ville. Loyal NG participants
>are already leaving, and I will probably join them soon.
>You can have X-Ville, but do consider having it somewhere else.
What is wrong with X-Ville here. Oh no, you have to download some more titles
and deal with just a couple more bytes as people add their jobs to their sigs.
wa-wa. I feel sorry for you. I honestly do. No really I mean that. It can be
really horrible sometimes. yeah, that's the ticket. I personally put XV if I'm
posting for X-Ville stuff which seems to be pretty standard. As far as loyal
goes that is a load of shit. The most loyal people I've seen around post both
in XV and about normal threads. But then again maybe I'm just doing too much
LSD again. No really. I do do that stuff. You know destroying my own grip on
reality and perception is fun. I really mean. Yeah, that's the ticket.
So as I was saying. Pack your bags. Have a nice trip. Or learn to develop an
inkling of tolerance and deal.
Official X-Ville Network Admin
Crusader for government subsidized T3 spinal jacks and original founder
of the "Learn UNIX at Birth" movement.
Past Sorrow, Beyond Regret. Above Time and Eternity
All are Equal before Death
Demon
--
Step up to the Altar at (http://www.suba.com/~demon/)
Mac Nooge
>
> Dr. Michael T. MacDonell (sen...@ix.netcom.com) wrote:
> : X-Ville Folks:
> : Please consider creating a new NG for X-Ville. Loyal NG participants
> : are already leaving, and I will probably join them soon.
> : You can have X-Ville, but do consider having it somewhere else.
> :
> :Paulina:>
First: do we care if you leave? No.
> Second: thank you ever so much for your gracious permission to let
> us have X-Ville. We were staying awake at night wondering what we would
> do if you didn't let us. NOT!!!!!
> Paulina the RedHead
> XVille's Inebriated Baker's Sometimes Inebriated Assistant
> Semi-Permanent Occupant of the Second Stool From the End at Puffy's
My Dear Paulina:
Is this man bothering you?
Shall I release the hordes of Small Yappy Dogs on him?
Just say the word.
-Beagle, Director, Queequeg Memorial Small-Yappy-Dog Rest Home/Bait Shop
"Your Gator-Baiter"
pwe...@freenet.edmonton.ab.ca
cust...@nfi.com wrote:
: On 12/18/96 3:21PM, in message <599jo9$bs0$7...@news.sas.ab.ca>,
: pwe...@freenet.edmonton.ab.ca wrote:
: > Dr. Michael T. MacDonell (sen...@ix.netcom.com) wrote:
: > : X-Ville Folks:
: >
: > : Please consider creating a new NG for X-Ville. Loyal NG participants
: > : are already leaving, and I will probably join them soon.
: > : You can have X-Ville, but do consider having it somewhere else.
: >
: > : Mike
: >
: > Let me think about it...ummmmmmm...NO!
: You shoulda said your final good byes Paulverizer! Instead you just flat out
: said no.
: Kath
Okay, here goes: Bye-bye, have fun, don't forget to pack, and I hope the
posse's Hummer doesn't hit yo ass on the way out(slight not of sarcasm)!
pwe...@freenet.edmonton.ab.ca
Michael K. Richmann (rich...@concentric.net) wrote:
: Heaven forbid you folks should get off your dead butts and issue
: a newsgroup create command...
No shit, eh? That's too much like work! BTW, according to some of
X-Ville's female residents, my butt is anything but dead.
catherine yronwode
Michael K. Richmann wrote:
>
> Heaven forbid you folks should get off your dead butts and issue
> a newsgroup create command...
News group...? Create...? Command...?
These folks are just working on counting out loud to 20, Michael -- they
can't send a newgroup control message.
catherine yronwode * mailto:c...@luckymojo.com * http://www.luckymojo.com
* The Lucky W Amulet Archive: http://www.luckymojo.com/LuckyW.html *
* The Sacred Landscape: http://www.luckymojo.com/sacredland.html *
* Karezza and Tantra: http://www.luckymojo.com/sacredsex.html *
for discussions about folkloric magic, ask your ISP for news:alt.lucky.w
Mac Nooge
Coleen Sullivan-Baier wrote:
>
> the little pod said "All we are saying, is give Peas a chance"
>
>
> Let's quit fighting, guys, huh...it's Christmas...peas on
> the hearth, and wood gills to rent...
>
> XXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXgizzieXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXX
> (this is a strange planet)
As usual, you are the fountain of wisdom in this town.
I repentently have called back the hordes of S-Y-Ds who were chasing
ingrates out of town.
Next time anyone feels like sinking to some new level of meanness, feel
free to come down to the Queequeg Memorial Rest Home/Bait Shop and
petting a dog...
(preferably the one and only Beagle as I don't think you'll find the
Pomeranians too soothing. But to each his/her/its own...)
-Beagle
Director, the Queequeg Memorial Small-Yappy-Dog Rest Home/Bait Shop
P.S. Or...set out some gator bait if you're still feeling evil....har har
har (evil chewing-up-shoes-noises)
laura capozzola
Michael K. Richmann wrote:
> Heaven forbid you folks should get off your dead butts and issue
> a newsgroup create command...
Hey, Mr. Tushy-face, I spent 2 weeks at the spa with the clones and I
think my butt is alive and well.
-Laura-
Claire Kerr
> >sen...@ix.netcom.com(Dr. Michael T. MacDonell) wrote:
> >
> >>X-Ville Folks:
> >
> >>Please consider creating a new NG for X-Ville. Loyal NG
> >participants
> >>are already leaving, and I will probably join them soon.
> >>You can have X-Ville, but do consider having it somewhere else.
People are leaving the newsgroup because of X-Ville?
THIS IS SO MUCH FUN!!!
--Claire [gleefully chuckling]
(Canadian Ambassador To X-Ville)
-->If only I can persuade Scully Lover to leave...
Michael K. Richmann
In article 59a4co$s...@eve.enteract.com,
de...@suba.com (Goat of Death) said:
>
>sen...@ix.netcom.com(Dr. Michael T. MacDonell) wrote:
>
>>X-Ville Folks:
>
>>Please consider creating a new NG for X-Ville. Loyal NG
>participants
>>are already leaving, and I will probably join them soon.
>>You can have X-Ville, but do consider having it somewhere else.
>
P Bozek
Dr. Michael T. MacDonell (sen...@ix.netcom.com) wrote:
: X-Ville Folks:
:
: Please consider creating a new NG for X-Ville. Loyal NG participants
: are already leaving, and I will probably join them soon.
: You can have X-Ville, but do consider having it somewhere else.
: Mike
:
:
Second: thank you ever so much for your gracious permission to let
us have X-Ville. We were staying awake at night wondering what we would
do if you didn't let us. NOT!!!!!
__
SUSAN LYNNE MALLET
In article <597uqp$b...@dfw-ixnews12.ix.netcom.com>,
Dr. Michael T. MacDonell <sen...@ix.netcom.com> wrote:
>X-Ville Folks:
>
>Please consider creating a new NG for X-Ville. Loyal NG participants
>are already leaving, and I will probably join them soon.
>You can have X-Ville, but do consider having it somewhere else.
>
>Mike
*****
I'm sorta new to this NG AND to XV.
I'm not sure what the argument is for separating the two, since I enjoy
both.
Someone suggested that the XV thread fills up space or something
(I'm not sure how it works). But on my newsreader, which is actually
kinda primitive, I can get it to list everything alphabetically by thread
titles and delete a page of threads at a time, if I want. So I figure if
the people who are uninterested in XV wanted to, they could do the same.
Is there a technical problem that I don't know about?
sm
--
****************************************************************************
"Whatever you do may seem insignificant,
but it is most important that you do it."
--Gandhi
P Bozek
: a newsgroup create command...
:
I've said it before and I'll say it again: get a killfile and get
off our backs. It's as simple as that. We dont' bother you about your
threads, like the Nielsen ratings, the sf ratings, the x-rated Gillian
Anderson photos (do you really think anybody actually reads those?) and
others that have very little or nothing to do with the X-Files, so don't
bother us about X-Ville. All the posts are clearly labelled, and even if
you don't have a killfile, you can just avoid them by looking at the
headings. But of course, if you just want to keep wasting time and space
in the newsgroup..... that's your choice, buddy.
__
Paulina the RedHead
XVille's Inebriated Baker's Sometimes Inebriated Assistant
Semi-Permanent Occupant of the Second Stool From the End at Puffy's
PROUD RESIDENT OF X-VILLE WHO IS NOT GOING TO LET A FEW GROUCHES RUN
HER OUT OF TOWN!!!!
bcc...@aol.com
In article <59aia6$h...@herald.concentric.net>, Michael K. Richmann
<rich...@concentric.net> writes:
>Heaven forbid you folks should get off your dead butts and issue
>a newsgroup create command...
>
>
Good grief! You people just absolutely push me to the edge!! Earlier
today I posted what I believed to be a fairly reasonable post about all
this us vs. them stuff. (Basically said that we all know we can't please
all of the people all of the time so let's just all get on with life and
quit the carrying on on both sides). Now, I want to take it back because
of postings like the one above and, instead, I want to tell this guy to
"get off HIS dead butt" and move it on down the road!
Oh, rats...now see....you made me lower myself to your level.
--Bobbie--
X-Ville C.I.C.
"That Insurance Place" - (conveniently located in the Town Square)
**Specializing in Malpractice Insurance, Financial Planning, and Body
Piercing**
Michael K. Richmann
In article 59bvf2$10...@pulp.ucs.ualberta.ca,>: Heaven forbid you folks should get off your dead butts and issue
>: a newsgroup create command....
>:
> I've said it before and I'll say it again: get a killfile
>and get
>off our backs. It's as simple as that. We dont' bother you about
>your
>threads, like the Nielsen ratings, the sf ratings, the x-rated
>Gillian
>Anderson photos (do you really think anybody actually reads those?)
>and
>others that have very little or nothing to do with the X-Files, so
>don't
>bother us about X-Ville. All the posts are clearly labelled, and
>even if
>you don't have a killfile, you can just avoid them by looking at the
>headings. But of course, if you just want to keep wasting time and
>space
>in the newsgroup..... that's your choice, buddy.
>
>
>__
>Paulina the RedHead
>XVille's Inebriated Baker's Sometimes Inebriated Assistant
>Semi-Permanent Occupant of the Second Stool From the End at Puffy's
>PROUD RESIDENT OF X-VILLE WHO IS NOT GOING TO LET A FEW GROUCHES RUN
>HER OUT OF TOWN!!!!
>
>
And two wrongs make a right... I stand crushed in the grip of your impeccable
logic. More and more I'd have to agree with another poster's comment with
the way you guys remind us of William Shatner's comments on SNL to move
out of your parent's basements and "get a life, people!"
Mac Nooge
> >Michael K. Richmann (rich...@concentric.net) wrote:
> >:
> >: Heaven forbid you folks should get off your dead butts and issue
> >: a newsgroup create command....
> >:
> >
> > I've said it before and I'll say it again: get a killfile
> >and get
> >off our backs. It's as simple as that. We dont' bother you about
> >your
> >threads, like the Nielsen ratings, the sf ratings, the x-rated
> >Gillian
> >Anderson photos (do you really think anybody actually reads those?)
> >and
> >others that have very little or nothing to do with the X-Files, so
> >don't
> >bother us about X-Ville. All the posts are clearly labelled,
> >__
> >Paulina the RedHead
> >
> >
>Michael:
> And two wrongs make a right... I stand crushed in the grip of your impeccable
> logic. More and more I'd have to agree with another poster's comment with
> the way you guys remind us of William Shatner's comments on SNL to move
> out of your parent's basements and "get a life, people!"
Hmm....hmmm...yes, here it is in your "Gizzie Wake me when it's over"
posting...I belive you said you were leaving! But you're back?!
Howdy!
And...buh-bye! Buh-bye, now!
-Beagle
(feeling grumpy as there was only dry dog food this morning)
Bernardine
Michael K. Richmann <rich...@concentric.net> wrote:
>And two wrongs make a right... I stand crushed in the grip of your impeccable
>logic. More and more I'd have to agree with another poster's comment with
>the way you guys remind us of William Shatner's comments on SNL to move
>out of your parent's basements and "get a life, people!"
Wow, it seems that there are A LOT of Shatnerologists in this group.
Anyone who thinks that Bill Shatner drips gems of wisdom should go to:
http://www.fastlane.net/homepages/hattan/
Where you can also order his CD "A Transformed Man" including such
golden keepers as "It Was a Very Good Year" and "Lucy in the Sky with
Diamonds". You can even dl an audio clip of the latter and "Mr.
Tambourine Man."
And then, having perused the Church of Shatnerology you can (1) stay
there or (2) come back and apologize to a lot of innocent people.
- Bernardine
bcc...@aol.com
In article <32BA3D...@is2.dal.ca>, Mac Nooge <rmnu...@is2.dal.ca>
writes:
>Next time anyone feels like sinking to some new level of meanness, feel
>free to come down to the Queequeg Memorial Rest Home/Bait Shop and
>petting a dog...
I just read the MOST OBNOXIOUS post (put there by the MOST OBNOXIOUS
person) and the only thing keeping me from the MOST MEAN AND NASTY
retaliation is the above mentioned sweet little post from Beagle. (Sorry
for shouting).
So I am on my way down to the pier right now where you will find me
petting a dog. But I'm pretty pissed and I'm not making any promises that
I won't be purchasing some 'gator bait before I head back to town.
P.S. Special note to any XV attorney not currently in litigation...I have
a sweet little kitten who wants to file a class action suit on behalf of
all the kittens everywhere. We _must_ stop this MOST OBNOXIOUS person
from using feline associations
--Bobbie--
XV Insurance Counselor
"That Insurance Place" - (conveniently located in the Town Square -- but
that should, IMHO, be called the Town X)
**Specializing in Accidental (& Intentional) Dismemberment Insurance,
Alien Abduction Insurance and Alien Pregnancy Insurance**
Mac Nooge
bcc...@aol.com wrote:
>
> In article <32BA3D...@is2.dal.ca>, Mac Nooge <rmnu...@is2.dal.ca>
> writes:
>
> >Next time anyone feels like sinking to some new level of meanness, feel
> >free to come down to the Queequeg Memorial Rest Home/Bait Shop and
> >petting a dog...
>
> I just read the MOST OBNOXIOUS post (put there by the MOST OBNOXIOUS
> person) and the only thing keeping me from the MOST MEAN AND NASTY
> retaliation is the above mentioned sweet little post from Beagle. (Sorry
> for shouting).
>
> So I am on my way down to the pier right now where you will find me
> petting a dog. But I'm pretty pissed and I'm not making any promises that
> I won't be purchasing some 'gator bait before I head back to town.
>
>
> XV Insurance Counselor
> Bobbie:
So glad to be of help! Here---try a Westie (Not really very yappy.)
And, if all else fails, rest assured:
The gator bait works equally well for trolls....
Beagle-
Director, Queequeg Memorial Small Yappy Dog Rest Home/Bait Shop
(who just sent Pendrell away with a Pom under his arm marked "Merry Xmas
Dana"...the dog, that is, not the arm)
Leigh A Vrabel
On Thu, 19 Dec 1996, Claire Kerr wrote:
> > >sen...@ix.netcom.com(Dr. Michael T. MacDonell) wrote:
> > >
> > >>X-Ville Folks:
> > >
> > >>Please consider creating a new NG for X-Ville. Loyal NG
> > >participants
> > >>are already leaving, and I will probably join them soon.
> > >>You can have X-Ville, but do consider having it somewhere else.
>
> People are leaving the newsgroup because of X-Ville?
>
>
> THIS IS SO MUCH FUN!!!
>
>
> --Claire [gleefully chuckling]
> (Canadian Ambassador To X-Ville)
> -->If only I can persuade Scully Lover to leave...
>
I almost hate to say it, but I agree: it IS fun watching people
who I'm SURE are intelligent and fun to be around stomp off in a huff
because their NG is not a bastion of logic, taste, dignity, and good sense
100% of the time. Newsgroups tend to be a microcosm of life, and as such
there is bound to be a cross section of people with different tastes and
views. Long live X-Ville, my friends! BTW, I'm looking for a new shampoo
boy at Uniblonder's...Donny has run off with my CancerMan Conditioner, and
now I can't keep the roaches out of the walls...
Leigh Anne
Megadee406
OK. I'm not sure if any of you have noticed (g), but recently, this ng has
become INCREDIBLY hostile. Not just nasy flames to trolls and idiots who
know nothing about the show, but flaming has increased considerably
between people who love the show, and this ng, and have been here forever.
In case you haven't figured it out, I'm talking about XVers vs.
Anti-XVers. Here's just a sampling of the lovely comments flying between
both sides on a certain thread.
<<Heaven forbid you folks should get off your dead butts and issue
a newsgroup create command...>>
<<These folks are just working on counting out loud to 20, Michael -- they
can't send a newgroup control message.>>
<<People are leaving the newsgroup because of X-Ville?
THIS IS SO MUCH FUN!!!>>
<<More and more I'd have to agree with another poster's comment with
the way you guys remind us of William Shatner's comments on SNL to move
out of your parent's basements and "get a life, people!">>
<<Okay, here goes: Bye-bye, have fun, don't forget to pack, and I hope the
posse's Hummer doesn't hit yo ass on the way out(slight not of sarcasm)!>>
This is disgusting. Yeah, ok, I admit it, I did snicker at Paul's goodbye
message. But really, it's not something to laugh about. As I understand
it, XV was created for fun, just something to add a little originality to
this ng. But this constant war between the sides is sickening. And it's
not making XV a particularly happy pace to live.
Anti-X-Villers: Let us have our fun. If you don't want to be a resident,
that's fine. Get a killfile, delete the well-labeled XV xv X-Ville
headings. You should not have to leave this ng because of XV. But DON'T
flame us for taking up space, or being childlike, or hinting at our
intelligence level. Your flames are not helping your cause any. If you are
flamed by an X-Villian, bite your tounge, and count to twenty. It's not
worth it.
X-Villers: Guys, let's just chill. Yes, I understand some of these posts
are pissing you off. That one about working on counting to twenty almost
earned a flame from me. But we gotta keep under control, or the A-XVers
will have a real cause to flame us. If we act like jerks, that just adds
to their case against us. As I said to them, if you are flamed, bite your
tounge and count to twenty. It's not worth it.
And to quote gizzie...just give peas a chance.
I am not who I am!
Meg
(Wondering about the irony of the resident juvenile delinquent posting
this)
X*X*X*X*X*X*X*X*X*X*X*X*X*X*X*X*X
*X-Ville's Resident Juvenile Delinquent and part-time WIB*
*X* Lover of all things Krycek *X*
"Sometimes the only sane response to an insane world is insanity" (Mulder, 'The Walk')
X*X*X*X*X*X*X*X*X*X*X*X*X*X*X*X*X
Leigh A Vrabel
>
> These folks are just working on counting out loud to 20, Michael -- they
> can't send a newgroup control message.
>
Now that was just plain uncalled for, cat, and nary an emoticon
in sight to signal sarcasm or humor, if that's what you
intended...considering how disdainfully you treat XVillers who resort to
insults, perhaps you'd better start practicing what you preach?
Apologies to gizzie for shattering the Xmas cease-fire,
Leigh Anne
Starbuck
catherine yronwode wrote:
>
> Michael K. Richmann wrote:
> >
> > Heaven forbid you folks should get off your dead butts and issue
> > a newsgroup create command...
>
>
> These folks are just working on counting out loud to 20, Michael -- they
> can't send a newgroup control message.
>
> catherine yronwode
Hmmm - sort of like the way YOU GUYS can't just either use a killfile or
delete or simply NOT READ our posts. If you don't want to read them,
don't. Like someone said before - no one is holding a gun to your head
and MAKING you read the X-Ville posts.
Maybe it's you who needs to count to 20 - before you post criticizing
and patronizing things in the newsgroup.
--
nan
Low Priestess, Church of St. Pendrell
Evil Dr. Lisa's *somewhat* loyal assistant in the Unholy Trinity, Inc.
Deputy/Posse leader in the big black HUMMER! (with the sunroof)
XXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXX
SCULLY: "Why do you always have to drive? Because you're the guy?
Because you're the big macho man?"
MULDER: "No...I was just never sure your little feet could reach the
pedals."
XXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXX
Mac Nooge
Megadee406 wrote:
>
> OK. I'm not sure if any of you have noticed (g), but recently, this ng has become INCREDIBLY hostile.
> (snipped some really embarassing, hostile, nasty,stuff for brevity's
sake -are any of us proud of this stuff?)
Anti-X-Villers: Let us have our fun. If you don't want to be a resident,
> that's fine. Get a killfile, delete the well-labeled XV xv X-Ville
> headings. You should not have to leave this ng because of XV. But DON'T
> flame us for taking up space, or being childlike, or hinting at our
> intelligence level. Your flames are not helping your cause any. If you are
> flamed by an X-Villian, bite your tounge, and count to twenty. It's not
> worth it.
>
> X-Villers: Guys, let's just chill. Yes, I understand some of these posts
> are pissing you off. That one about working on counting to twenty almost
> earned a flame from me. But we gotta keep under control, or the A-XVers
> will have a real cause to flame us. If we act like jerks, that just adds
> to their case against us. As I said to them, if you are flamed, bite your
> tounge and count to twenty. It's not worth it.
>
> And to quote gizzie...just give peas a chance.
>
> I am not who I am!
> Meg
> (Wondering about the irony of the resident juvenile delinquent posting
> this)
>
Amen!
(More peas means more yummy table scraps for all!)
And to reiterate what I sugggested earlier:
Instead of flaming(or biting) back, come on down to the Rest Home and
pet a Small Yappy Dog. They won't be so yappy, and (hopefully)neither
will we.
(Yes, the Bait shop will remain open in *dire* cases of gator bait!)
Special note to anti-XV-ers:
All right, you don't want to come down to the QMSYDRH. Please, then, just
IMAGINE petting a dog (or cat, or iguana, or whatever the
pet-of-your-choice is!) before you respond to an XV post you think is
particularly juvenile, annoying, or both.
Many thanks
-Beagle
(who hopes to get lots of patting and perhaps a sunflower seed or two out
of this)
Director, Queequeg Memorial Small Yappy Dog Rest Home/Bait Shop
(who also doesn't want to have to go back to lurking because of all the
loud yelling)
Starbuck
Megadee406 wrote:
>
> OK. I'm not sure if any of you have noticed (g), but recently, this ng has
> know nothing about the show, but flaming has increased considerably
> between people who love the show, and this ng, and have been here forever.
>
>
> And to quote gizzie...just give peas a chance.
>
> I am not who I am!
> Meg
> (Wondering about the irony of the resident juvenile delinquent posting
> this)
Thanks, Meg, for putting a little bit of perspective on a subject that
many people are ready to put to rest. (on BOTH sides of the argument,
I'm sure)
I'd like to first apologize publically to the people who I have been
rude to, both in private e-mail and on this newsgroup. After careful
consideration, I can see that this does absolutely nothing to help the
situation. Although I initially thought that "flaming back" would make
me feel better about the whole thing, it actually made me feel worse.
Second, I'd like to *try* to be as accommodating as possible. If people
who don't want to read the X-Ville posts would let us know *exactly* how
you'd like the posts labeled, we'd be happy to do just that. I know
there was some discussion because XV is too short to killfile, so please
just let us know. Maybe making it read [XV] would work, because most
servers put these thingys [] alphabetically at the end, right?
I'm hoping that we can come to an agreement on this situation, because I
hate to see these flames posted in this newsgroup. (and in my e-mail
box) Most of us are adults, and you would think this whole thing had
taken place on an elementary school playground with the way we're
acting!
--
nan
(and thanks to those who've listened to me rant these last few weeks!)
GG
In article <597uqp$b...@dfw-ixnews12.ix.netcom.com>,
sen...@ix.netcom.com(Dr. Michael T. MacDonell) wrote:
> X-Ville Folks:
>
> Please consider creating a new NG for X-Ville. Loyal NG participants
> are already leaving, and I will probably join them soon.
> You can have X-Ville, but do consider having it somewhere else.
>
> Mike
>
Mike-
Oscar Wilde *died* rather than look at the wallpaper ("Either this
wallpaper is going or I am." -OW's supposed last words). Is it really
such a mortality issue for you?
The X-Ville posts were filling up my ng reader to the point where I was
missing some other posts I wanted to read, so I got info about how to
killfile posts with "XV" in the title...you can do the same, unless of
course you need to take your aggressions out on someone, in which case you
*shouldn't* killfile them, and your patronizing little posts will provide
yet more amusement for the innocent denizens of X-Ville.
And I think that OW would've liked XV a lot more than the wallpaper,
which had no ears---or at least he would've thought twice before speaking
to it.
Just some observations and a suggestion...? (and a little jab here and there ;)
-Gil
***************
Note to myself:
"You GO, girl!"
***************
Mac Nooge
Dear gizzie:
Can I be your dog?
Sorry. Unnecessary post. I know you have at least two dogs.
I was moved to speech because once again,you are wise.
Why do we need to fight?
We are all here b/c of a common interest. If you don't like certain
expressions of that interest, please look away.
Besides, the fewer flames on this topic, the less time wasted for us all.
-Beagle
(really hoping we can stop arguing and go for a run now)
-Director, Queequeg Memorial SYD Rest Home/Bait Shop
cat wrote:
> >> These folks are just working on counting out loud to 20, Michael --
> they can't send a newgroup control message.
> Leigh Anne wrote:
> > Now that was just plain uncalled for, cat, and nary an emoticon
> >in sight to signal sarcasm or humor, if that's what you
> >intended.
> > Apologies to gizzie for shattering the Xmas cease-fire,
> >
>gizzie wrote:
> 's okay, Leigh Ann...what has me TOTALLY baffled about
> this thread is...why are all the people who don't want to read X-Ville
> posts READING this thread, when it OBVIOUSLY has "X-Ville" in the
> header??? I believe the above person was the first one to express
> displeasure weeks ago...and we cooperated, in most cases, by labeling
> our posts...so WHY are the disenters not only obviously still READING
> the posts...but responding, also??
>
> ...just proves my theory that Earthlings must ALWAYS have
> something to bitch about.........
>
> XXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXgizzieXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXX
>
>
Christian Thoma
Into the fire...
As a non-XVillain and a recent addition to this newsgroup (but with plenty of
internet experience), I'd like to make a couple points and arguments.
The first thing is, the point of a newsgroup is discussion. Flaming
immediately negates discussion. When you flame, you are saying, I can't
possibly add to this discussion, either being incapable or unwilling to do
so. If a person writes a perfectly valid post, and the best you can come up
with is to point out a speeling errer [sic], you're wasting everybodys,
including your own, time. Now I know there are some wandering flamers on the
internet, who will pop into a newsgroup and post '[newsgroup topic] sucks and
you're all losers', because these people need attention and the moment you
respond, you are an idiot that just made the flamer's day and encouraged even
more flaming. If you ignore them, they go away. Both sides (XV and nonXV)
are guilty of flaming, and it should stop, simply because this isn't a recess
playground.
The next point is that the non-XV who complain about XV do have a valid
point. I, personally, am surprised that there isn't a XVillain with a MUD yet
for XVille. However, you have the right not to do so, and if you wish to
remain in this ng (especially since I'm sure many of you are type A veterans
of this group and have earned your position), that is fine by me.
The problem is talking about 'kill files' and such. As stated earlier, the
point of a newsgroup is discussion, and instead of open discussion, we have
two distinct camps forming here, those that only read posts that are headed by
'XV' and those that refuse to read posts headed by 'XV'. Shouldn't we all be
discussing this stuff together? Isn't that the purpose of the newsgroup, for
people who like the show to talk about it (hopefully like adults)? (n.b. I am
not saying that all XVIllains refuse to read non-XVillain posts, and vice
versa. I speak merely in generalities).
My final point is that if we can't have harmony on a simple internet
newsgroup, how the hell can we have world peace? And is it not the holiday
season (you know, goodwill towards men (and women) and all that stuff)?
I think the solution is tolerance on every side. I would recommend that all
delete their kill files, and take the time to read one another once again.
The person you 'killed' two months ago may have something important to say now
that you'd be the better for hearing (er, reading).
As the great one would say, be kind to one another.
Merry Christmas, Happy belated Hanukkah, and Happy Kwaanza.
Mj Mj ====================================================
MjMj Mj Christian Thoma
Mj Mj mjo...@acs.bu.edu
Mj
Mj Like many self-made men I'm in awe of my creator
Mj
Mj Mj It is the truth, even if it never happened
MjMj Mj --the Chief
Mj Mj ====================================================
Coleen Sullivan-Baier
Claire Kerr
catherine yronwode wrote:
>
> Michael K. Richmann wrote:
> >
> > Heaven forbid you folks should get off your dead butts and issue
> > a newsgroup create command...
>
> News group...? Create...? Command...?
>
> can't send a newgroup control message.
FUCK! So that's what comes after 19!
Man, I've been working on that for eighteen years....
..oh god...I'm project-less...no hobbies anymore cos some bitch ruined
the ending for me...maybe it's time to work on my alphabet...always
wondered what the different between 'cat' and 'boring
moron' was.
--Claire
(Canadian Ambassador To X-Ville)
[I stayed out of the XV vs. Fluff wars. Even visited Luckymojo on good
faith -- but man, too much hostility, baby.]
Stef Davies
>> I've said it before and I'll say it again: get a killfile and get
>> off our backs. It's as simple as that.
Well, not *quite* simple, if you don't have the facility to create a
Killfile. The software I use - which I love in every other way - doesn't
have this facility. And it *is* a bit of a pain to have to plough through
all the XV post headers trying to find the headers which do actually
relate to the show. I am grateful that most people are now identifying the
XVille threads, but please don't ,make sweeping assumptions that everyone
has the capability to enable them to create killfiles. Believe me, if I
could kill them I would, and so would everyone else who doesn't want to
download the headers I imagine.
Merry Christmas, X-Ville :-)
_________________________________
"Shippers...be afraid...be very afraid"
Glen Morgan on 'Never Again' (episode 4 X 13)
________________________________
Coleen Sullivan-Baier
In <Pine.A32.3.95.961220...@unix1.cc.ysu.edu> Leigh A
Vrabel <s013...@cc.ysu.edu> writes:
>> These folks are just working on counting out loud to 20, Michael --
they can't send a newgroup control message.
>> catherine yronwode * mailto:c...@luckymojo.com *
> Now that was just plain uncalled for, cat, and nary an emoticon
>in sight to signal sarcasm or humor, if that's what you
>intended...considering how disdainfully you treat XVillers who resort
>to insults, perhaps you'd better start practicing what you preach?
>
> Apologies to gizzie for shattering the Xmas cease-fire,
>
's okay, Leigh Ann...what has me TOTALLY baffled about
Jan Morier
"Stef Davies" <stephani...@ukonline.co.uk> wrote some very
interesting things about how she can't use a killfile, which makes
me understand her frustration more better, then concluded:
>
>Merry Christmas, X-Ville :-)
___________________
Well gee, thanks Stef. That is so cool. Very diplomatic.
I salute you, not only for your warm wishes, but also for
the wonderful work you do (did?) on your archives.
I may only be a village idiot, but sometimes we have wise
things to say. And I say, on behalf of ALL X-Ville, we wish
you a lovely Christmas too - way over there across the pond
(ah, wistful longings for Edinburgh in December!)
I will *Slam* any X-Villian who counters my Christmas
greetings to you.
A ceasefire is a good thing.
I remain, your humble idiot -
RightBrain
stuck out here on the Canadian prairies
in a blizzard... "but it's a DRY cold!"
laural
Oooohhhhhh! When did he say that? Whatever could it mean?
laural
Michael K. Richmann
In article 19961220214...@ladder01.news.aol.com,
megad...@aol.com (Megadee406) said:
>
>OK. I'm not sure if any of you have noticed (g), but recently, this
>ng has
>become INCREDIBLY hostile. Not just nasy flames to trolls and
>idiots who
>know nothing about the show, but flaming has increased considerably
>between people who love the show, and this ng, and have been here
>forever.
>
>Anti-XVers. Here's just a sampling of the lovely comments flying
>between
>both sides on a certain thread.
>
> a newsgroup create command...>>
>
>-- they
>can't send a newgroup control message.>>
>
> THIS IS SO MUCH FUN!!!>>
>
><<More and more I'd have to agree with another poster's comment with
>the way you guys remind us of William Shatner's comments on SNL to
>move
>out of your parent's basements and "get a life, people!">>
>
><<Okay, here goes: Bye-bye, have fun, don't forget to pack, and I
>hope the
>posse's Hummer doesn't hit yo ass on the way out(slight not of
>sarcasm)!>>
>
>This is disgusting. Yeah, ok, I admit it, I did snicker at Paul's
>goodbye
>message. But really, it's not something to laugh about. As I
>understand
>it, XV was created for fun, just something to add a little
>originality to
>this ng. But this constant war between the sides is sickening. And
>it's
>not making XV a particularly happy pace to live.
>
>resident,
>that's fine. Get a killfile, delete the well-labeled XV xv X-Ville
>headings. You should not have to leave this ng because of XV. But
>DON'T
>flame us for taking up space, or being childlike, or hinting at our
>intelligence level. Your flames are not helping your cause any. If
>you are
>flamed by an X-Villian, bite your tounge, and count to twenty. It's
>not
>worth it.
You might keep in mind that not all of us have killfile capability, nor
do we get our newsgroup feed for free. Back when the alt.tv-xfiles
group was first created, folks were considerate enough to create
an alt.tx.x-files.creative group for the large story postings that were
coming along for those that didn't wish to spend the time and the
money dowloading them. The same was requested from the XVille
folks and the response was basically "shove it where the sun doesn's
shine". If you don't like the hostile tone of the anti-XVillers, keep in
mind that you reap what you sow...
Mike
whatever
Good-bye. Don't let the door hit you in the butt
on the way out.
deb...or whatever.
X-Ville Humour Police.
Town Jester.
Gary Massengale
On Fri, 20 Dec 1996 18:38:38 -0600, Starbuck <n...@concentric.net>
wrote:
>Megadee406 wrote:
>>
>> OK. I'm not sure if any of you have noticed (g), but recently, this ng has
>> become INCREDIBLY hostile. Not just nasy flames to trolls and idiots who
>> know nothing about the show, but flaming has increased considerably
>> between people who love the show, and this ng, and have been here forever.
>>
To be honest I don't see what all the fuss is about. Some days I'm
not in the mood or dont have time to read all the x-ville stuff, then
I just hit <control>N and go to the next message. Seems simple
enough. If the x-villers get a kick out of all that stuff, more power
to em! (And I'm still chuckling over "give pea's a chance").
Gary
Alan Hurshman
Michael K. Richmann <rich...@concentric.net> wrote in article
<59h2t2$8...@herald.concentric.net>...
>
> Sort of like not everyone's software has killfile capability, nor do we
> get to dowload all the headers for free? You guys would do a lot more
> for your credibility on the XVille side if you had a clearer idea of how
> people are accessing the Usenet and what it costs them in time and
> money to do so. I don't agree with Catherine's comment but frankly
> I'm not seeing a lot of common sense coming from your side of the
> fence either...
You would do much for your arguement if you took the
time to quantify the COST of downloading the headers
and then publishing the results here. You will need
to count the total # of headers, the number of those
headers that come from XV posts and what it costs to
download them. If it costs you more then 5 cents a
year, let me know.
--
Alan Hurshman,
The Spa, X-Ville.
(Halifax, Nova Scotia)
Lyn
Michael K. Richmann wrote:
>
> You might keep in mind that not all of us have killfile capability, nor
> do we get our newsgroup feed for free. Back when the alt.tv-xfiles
> group was first created, folks were considerate enough to create
> an alt.tx.x-files.creative group for the large story postings that were
> coming along for those that didn't wish to spend the time and the
> money dowloading them. The same was requested from the XVille
> folks and the response was basically "shove it where the sun doesn's
> shine". If you don't like the hostile tone of the anti-XVillers, keep in
> mind that you reap what you sow...
This is comparing apples to oranges. The fanfic articles are rather long
and actually took a long time to download. I've only seen a couple of
X-ville posts that were very long (except when people quote several
letters in their entirety, no names mentioned... :) )
As someone pointed out earlier in this thread, the cost to download
these articles is negligible. I don't use a newsreader with killfile (I
use Netscape because I like it). I just scroll down really fast (while
connected all the while!) and click on the ones I want to read.
Actually, this group takes me less time to pick over than many of the
others (some smaller groups even). Everyone here is good about making
their posting titles reflect what's in the message. I think, despite all
the moaning and groaning that this group has an excellent set up! Go
read alt.music.lyrics sometime where many of the posts have the same
name "ID this song" There's a nightmare for you!
Lyn, trying to remain lurked but having a hard time of it!
catherine yronwode
Michael K. Richmann wrote:
>
> You might keep in mind that not all of us have killfile capability,
> nor do we get our newsgroup feed for free. Back when the alt.tv-xfiles
> group was first created, folks were considerate enough to create
> an alt.tx.x-files.creative group for the large story postings that
> were coming along for those that didn't wish to spend the time and the
> money dowloading them. The same was requested from the XVille
> folks and the response was basically "shove it where the sun doesn's
> shine". If you don't like the hostile tone of the anti-XVillers, keep
> in mind that you reap what you sow...
I agree. The hostility -- right fromn the get-go -- to the idea of
starting a newsgroup, has been very unexppected. I think i was the first
to suggest this -- and i was accused repeatedly of trying to "censor"
V-Villers or to "kick them out," when what i was asking was that they
set up their own arwa of usenet.
Once again, people -- this is SIMPLE. Just subscribe to the newsgroup
alt.config and ask for help. No votes are required, no concensus, and
not much waiting time. Some helpful system administrator will help you
set up alt.tv.x-files.xville in short order. Just explain that there are
a bunch of you who want it, crosspost the message here and ask others of
us to crosspost to alt.config in support of your new group -- and bingo:
you'll get it! Then all you have to do is tell your system administrator
that the new group was created and that you want to have access to it.
I have posted this before but nobody seems to understand. Look at
alt.tv.x-files.creative -- isn;t it working? Isn';t it on good terms
with those of us who are not ganfic folks? Why can't you see that
thumbing your nose at people and acting like you are going to drive US
out of this group makes you seem childish and gives the impression that
you don;t know how to make usenet work for you instead of against you?
Look, i know i have been snide and sarcastic, but if i can back off of
that and offer to HELP you create a newsgroup -- walk you through it and
get you started -- would you take advantage of the offer?
catherine yronwode * mailto:c...@luckymojo.com * http://www.luckymojo.com
* The Lucky W Amulet Archive: http://www.luckymojo.com/LuckyW.html *
* The Sacred Landscape: http://www.luckymojo.com/sacredland.html *
* Karezza and Tantra: http://www.luckymojo.com/sacredsex.html *
for discussions about folkloric magic, ask your ISP for news:alt.lucky.w
bcc...@aol.com
>>>catherine yronwode * mailto:c...@luckymojo.com * writes:
>>>(snip)....counting out loud to 20....(snip)
Okay, I admit that the snipped post I quoted above got my blood boiling
and did push my otherwise sweet-and-kind-hearted-temperment to such a low,
nasty, and mean level that I am ashamed of myself. But I'm not gonna let
it happen again....at least not publicly in this ng.
I am on vacation for the next two weeks and will be spending more than my
fair share of time reading this ng (and reading _all_ the posts which, on
a normal day I have to skip simply due to time constraints). With a
little bit of luck, I will hopefully have something witty and funny to say
in reply to some XV postings (with appropriate subject lines) *and*
something brilliant and insightful to say in reply to some XF postings.
But I will not rant and rave or reply in any other manner to anti-XV
postings.
I now have a "rant-and-rave-pal" (thanks, nan :-))) who will be the
receiver, via private e-mail, of anything I feel I just can't keep to
myself.
Perhaps this is something posters on both sides of this "debate" might
want to consider and this ng can get back to being a nice place to visit.
Michael K. Richmann
In article 32BB04...@concentric.net,
>> > a newsgroup create command...
>>
>>
>> These folks are just working on counting out loud to 20, Michael
>-- they
>> can't send a newgroup control message.
>>
>
>
>Hmmm - sort of like the way YOU GUYS can't just either use a
>killfile or
>them,
>don't. Like someone said before - no one is holding a gun to your
>head
>and MAKING you read the X-Ville posts.
Sort of like not everyone's software has killfile capability, nor do we
get to dowload all the headers for free? You guys would do a lot more
for your credibility on the XVille side if you had a clearer idea of how
people are accessing the Usenet and what it costs them in time and
money to do so. I don't agree with Catherine's comment but frankly
I'm not seeing a lot of common sense coming from your side of the
fence either...
>
>Maybe it's you who needs to count to 20 - before you post
>criticizing
>and patronizing things in the newsgroup.
>
>--
>nan
Mike
Michael K. Richmann
In article 32BACA...@is2.dal.ca,
Mac Nooge <rmnu...@is2.dal.ca> said:
>
>> >Michael K. Richmann (rich...@concentric.net) wrote:
>> >:
>> >: Heaven forbid you folks should get off your dead butts and
>issue
>> >:
>> >
>> > I've said it before and I'll say it again: get a
>killfile
>> >and get
>about
>> >your
>> >threads, like the Nielsen ratings, the sf ratings, the x-rated
>> >Gillian
>> >Anderson photos (do you really think anybody actually reads
>those?)
>> >and
>> >others that have very little or nothing to do with the X-Files,
>so
>> >don't
>> >bother us about X-Ville. All the posts are clearly labelled,
>> >(snip)
>> >__
>> >Paulina the RedHead
>
>> >
>> >
>>Michael:
>> And two wrongs make a right... I stand crushed in the grip of
>your impeccable
>> logic. More and more I'd have to agree with another poster's
>comment with
>> the way you guys remind us of William Shatner's comments on SNL
>to move
>> out of your parent's basements and "get a life, people!"
>
>
>over"
>posting...I belive you said you were leaving! But you're back?!
>Howdy!
>And...buh-bye! Buh-bye, now!
Back? I'm not the Dr. Mike who said he was leaving. Try and keep up.
pwe...@freenet.edmonton.ab.ca
Michael K. Richmann (rich...@concentric.net) wrote:
: Sort of like not everyone's software has killfile capability, nor do we
: get to dowload all the headers for free? You guys would do a lot more
: for your credibility on the XVille side if you had a clearer idea of how
: people are accessing the Usenet and what it costs them in time and
: money to do so. I don't agree with Catherine's comment but frankly
: I'm not seeing a lot of common sense coming from your side of the
: fence either...
Hey Mikey! We don't NEED common sense, our "side" is already getting our
way. Actually, the people who want us to leave won't win unless we choose
to let them, in which case it wouldn't count...so there!
--The Paulverizer
X-Ville's:
Owner/Bartender--Puffy's Saloon
Atheist Minister--Church conveniently located at the bar in Puffy's;
all are welcome
Rent-A-Cop--HOME Asylum
My other .sig is a Rolls Royce
philebrarian
On Sat, 21 Dec 1996, catherine yronwode wrote:
> I have posted this before but nobody seems to understand. Look at
> alt.tv.x-files.creative -- isn;t it working? Isn';t it on good terms
> with those of us who are not ganfic folks? Why can't you see that
I'm staying out of the nasty stuff.... not going to express an opinion one
way or the ther on XVille... but
It's my understanding that .creative was actually created to protect the
.creative writers and 10/13 productions... Because CC, et al do read this
NG occasionally, they didn't want to worry about getting sued for stealing
someone's idea -- so the .creative stuff was moved out of this NG to
another that they do not read.
--philebrarian, Webmaster to the Cult of xxxgizziexxx
Check out the COG HomePage http://www.efn.org/~rjl and follow the link
and a.t.f-X'er since Nov 94
Michael K. Richmann
In article 01bbef7d$8ab838a0$461e...@devel1.Psychology.Dal.Ca,
"Alan Hurshman" <alan...@demosys.gcomm.com> said:
>
>Michael K. Richmann <rich...@concentric.net> wrote in article
><59h2t2$8...@herald.concentric.net>...
>>
>do we
>> get to dowload all the headers for free? You guys would do a lot
>more
>> for your credibility on the XVille side if you had a clearer idea
>of how
>> people are accessing the Usenet and what it costs them in time and
>> money to do so. I don't agree with Catherine's comment but
>frankly
>> I'm not seeing a lot of common sense coming from your side of the
>> fence either...
>
>time to quantify the COST of downloading the headers
>and then publishing the results here. You will need
>to count the total # of headers, the number of those
>headers that come from XV posts and what it costs to
>download them. If it costs you more then 5 cents a
>year, let me know.
Well, let's see... Assuming an extra half-minute per day (my newsserver
is not the swiftest at transferring headers), Ameritech gets about 5 cents
minute since there are no local ISP numbers within 8 miles of me and
365 days per year, comes to to about $10. Will you be submitting check
or charge...? As others have mentioned, it's not just the cost, it's also the
annoyance at having to wade through numerous XV posts to get to the
ones discussing the show. If your XVille group is as robust as you guys
seem to think, creating your own group shouldn't be a problem...
Chachee
People who do flashsessions don't like having to spend the time and money
it takes to download all the extraneous XVille posts. It IS a hassle to
read through them online too. This newsgroup is called XFILES.....not
XFILES AND XVILLE. I agree with the others who say that it is cute for
awhile, but not for long. Now its just annoying. Form your own
Newsgroup.
O`=--.,_,.--=`^`=--.,_,.--=`^`=--.,_,.--=`^`=--.,_,.--=`^`=--.,_,.--=`^`=--.,_,.--=`^`=--.,_,.--=`O
I "You're going to find that many of the truths we cling to I
I depend greatly on our own point of view..." I
I --Obi-wan Kenobi I
O`=--.,_,.--=`^`=--.,_,.--=`^`=--.,_,.--=`^`=--.,_,.--=`^`=--.,_,.--=`^`=--.,_,.--=`^`=--.,_,.--=`O
Coleen Sullivan-Baier
:
>People who do flashsessions don't like having to spend the time and
money it takes to download all the extraneous XVille posts.
Downloading all these argument posts is a bitch, too :)
XXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXgizzieXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXX
(who just counted twice as many argumentative posts, as X-Ville posts
themselves)
pwe...@freenet.edmonton.ab.ca
Coleen Sullivan-Baier (giz...@ix.netcom.com) wrote:
: :
: >
Yeah! And who doesn't like a good flash now and then. Speaking of which,
if y'all come on down to Puffy's at around 3:00am...
GG
Dear X-Villers...
This might sound silly, but I have to say it: Until I started reading
this "Either X-Ville is going or I am" thread, I thought X-Ville must be
some kind of MUDD thing, and since I tried MUDDs a few times and they
didn't grab me at all, I made a bunch of generalizations about what XV
must be and got info about how to killfile it, because I assumed it was
all worthless and I didn't want it cluttering up my newsgroups.
BUT...I've been finding this "Either X-Ville..." thread really interesting
and some of the posts and counter-posts made me laugh so hard---
[example:
>catherine yronwode wrote:
>> Michael K. Richmann wrote:
>> > Heaven forbid you folks should get off your dead butts and issue
>> > a newsgroup create command...
>> News group...? Create...? Command...?
>> These folks are just working on counting out loud to 20, Michael -- they
>> can't send a newgroup control message.
> FUCK! So that's what comes after 19!
> Man, I've been working on that for eighteen years....
> ..oh god...I'm project-less...no hobbies anymore cos some bitch ruined
>the ending for me...maybe it's time to work on my alphabet...always
>wondered what the different between 'cat' and 'boring
>moron' was.]
that I started reading them to someone on the phone (to their endless
annoyance) and then while I was explaining that the reason I find it so
interesting is because I'm starting to get to know the personalities of
some of the prolific posters in this whole ng---VOILA!---I suddenly got
the whole point of XV! (Well, I think I did anyway...)
This whole ng, or any ng with a lot of regulars, seems to be sort of like
a neighborhood. I figured that out when I made an analogy that the people
who live across the river from me couldn't care less about the street fair
on *my* block, but the people who live in my neighborhood get excited
about it; also, they know their neighbors, and they have common
urban-environment interests, etc., so that when something happens to
someone down the street we get interested. So then it suddenly made sense
to me about "Why X-Ville?" because it's must be sort of an "X-Files ng"
neighborhood...[am I anywhere near right???? It reminds me of Harriet's
fictional town in _Harriet the Spy_ , a book I read a million times when
I was a kid.] I thought before that XV postings had characters that were
supposed to be playing the parts of the X-files characters, but after
spending half a night investigating XV posts in the name of fairness, I
found out that I was completely in error. It's a way of giving the ng the
trappings of a neighborhood in order to feel more comfortable in it, in a
way---at least, that's the lightbulb that came on over *my* particular
head... And I have to agree with---
Julie<hopkin...@mayo.edu>, who said:
>Some of the funniest stuff I read during my boring days emerge from X-Ville.
You guys are hilarious, and so now I'm trying to figure out what other
kind of stuff I can cut instead of x-files to make everything fit into the
ng
And I wanted to say, in response to---
Christian Thoma <mjo...@bu.edu>, who said
>I would recommend that all delete their kill files, and take the time to
read >one another once again....
---that If I don't find *something* to kf, I'll never be able to read more
than a tiny bit of what I'm actually interested in at the moment, because
my ng reader can't deal with that many messages at once, so it just takes
a few and refuses the rest.
Anyway, in summary (<---yep, I'm not long outta college) I'm saying that
while I don't think I want to take up residence, and I don't necessarily
read more than a fraction of the X-V posts, I think X-V is a great idea
(in the way that I understand it to be), and really entertaining, AND I
also apologize to the people I was sarcastic to who don't have killfile
capacity in their newsreader---I was being overly-righteous even if I
*had* been correct in my generalized remarks about ng readers, which I
obviously wasn't. ;)
Also, I know some people hate flame-wars, but I have to say that sometimes
they're more entertaining than the strictly relevant posts, so I agree to
disagree with the people that hate flame-wars, 'cause I see their point as
well.
Hope I didn't take up too much room :)
(Guess if you think I did, you wouldn't have read this far...?)
GG
Dear X-Villers...
This might sound silly, but I have to say it: Until I started reading
this "Either X-Ville is going or I am" thread, I thought X-Ville must be
some kind of MUDD thing, and since I tried MUDDs a few times and they
didn't grab me at all, I made a bunch of generalizations about what XV
must be and got info about how to killfile it, because I assumed it was
all worthless and I didn't want it cluttering up my newsgroups.
BUT...I've been finding this "Either X-Ville..." thread really interesting
and some of the posts and counter-posts made me laugh so hard
[example:
laura capozzola
GG wrote:
>
> Dear X-Villers...
> <snip>
> that I started reading them to someone on the phone (to their endless
> annoyance) and then while I was explaining that the reason I find it so
> interesting is because I'm starting to get to know the personalities of
> some of the prolific posters in this whole ng---VOILA!---I suddenly got
> the whole point of XV! (Well, I think I did anyway...)
>
> This whole ng, or any ng with a lot of regulars, seems to be sort of like
> a neighborhood. I figured that out when I made an analogy that the people
> who live across the river from me couldn't care less about the street fair
> on *my* block, but the people who live in my neighborhood get excited
> about it; also, they know their neighbors, and they have common
> urban-environment interests, etc., so that when something happens to
> someone down the street we get interested. So then it suddenly made sense
> to me about "Why X-Ville?" because it's must be sort of an "X-Files ng"
> neighborhood...[am I anywhere near right???? It reminds me of Harriet's
> fictional town in _Harriet the Spy_ , a book I read a million times when
> I was a kid.]
Hey! I think she's got it!
-Laura-
But Harriet MUST DIE!
The X-Ville Town Spy
"This 'burb is only big enough for one of us."
Chachee
From Chachee
>People who do flashsessions don't like having to spend the time and
>money it takes to download all the extraneous XVille posts.
>> Downloading all these argument posts is a bitch, too :)
>> XXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXgizzieXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXX
>> (who just counted twice as many argumentative posts, as X-Ville posts
>>themselves)
I AGREE........yippee!!!!!!
Pat Gonzales
In article <Pine.SUN.3.95.961222...@garcia.efn.org>,
philebrarian <r...@efn.org> wrote:
> It's my understanding that .creative was actually created to protect the
> .creative writers and 10/13 productions... Because CC, et al do read this
> NG occasionally, they didn't want to worry about getting sued for stealing
> someone's idea -- so the .creative stuff was moved out of this NG to
> another that they do not read.
You are correct. It had nothing to do with long posts.
Pat Gonzales
X-Phile since October 1993
Keeper of the X Files FAQ
Jan Morier
gog...@teleport.com (GG) wrote:
>Dear X-Villers...
>
Snipped...
>This whole ng, or any ng with a lot of regulars, seems to be sort of like
>a neighborhood. I figured that out when I made an analogy that the people
>who live across the river from me couldn't care less about the street fair
>on *my* block, but the people who live in my neighborhood get excited
>about it; also, they know their neighbors, and they have common
>urban-environment interests, etc., so that when something happens to
>someone down the street we get interested. So then it suddenly made sense
>to me about "Why X-Ville?" because it's must be sort of an "X-Files ng"
>neighborhood...[am I anywhere near right????
snipparoo
>It's a way of giving the ng the
>trappings of a neighborhood in order to feel more comfortable in it, in a
>way---at least, that's the lightbulb that came on over *my* particular
>head... And I have to agree with---
>You guys are hilarious, and so now I'm trying to figure out what other
>kind of stuff I can cut instead of x-files to make everything fit into the
>ng
Thank you Gil for making this all make sense, that's all it ever was
meant to be, IMHO, a fun neighbourhood - great for a laugh.
I appreciate your insight to XV. Please stick around!
Regards,
RightBrain
The Village Idiot
camgib
Come on over to the XV's the one and only McDonald's!
Have some Arch burgers, plenty of hot fries, and a tall cup of coke!
And of course, buy some X-F Happy Meals for the kids. All at a cheap
price!!
Come on over, folks!
cam gib
laural
Oooh! Oooh! What kind of toys are in the X-Files happy meals? And
what type of playground do you have?
Maybe, crawling under escalators? and through sewers?
And does your McDonalds' serve McLiver Burgers?
~laural~
Caretaker of The Field Where I Died Memorial Gardens
camgib
Ain't gonna tell.
Ain't gonna tell!
Grin.
Well.... you have your standard hero (and heroine, of course)
figures,... your standard arch enemies,... your standard "friends" like
DT,... and THE BADDEST MOTW CREATURES!!!
Oh, lest we forget, there's little green men of course.
As for playgrounds... actually the playground is in your mind. Use your
imagination. That saves me $$$$!! May I suggest as food for your
imagination, staring at any Escher painting.
(Those paintings were the ones with the staircases on both sides with
people walking on BOTH sides of it... mazes that have no ends, fishes
that become birds miraculously,... and the classic
"hand-drawing-itself")
Hee hee.
I've often wondered what came first, the hand or the pencil, in that
particular Escher painting? It's excatly like the chicken and the egg.
With a very visual twist. All these paintings are available in books at
your local bookstore.
AND yes, we do serve McLiver Burgers. More value meals to come soon! :-)
cam gib
GG
Ummm...first off, I apologize in advance for a long post. I've never
posted anything more than a couple paragraphs, and I read all the docs and
couldn't figure out how to make several small ones and make sure they'd all
be in the same place, so I'm sending this as is. Second, I promise never to
do it again.
This whole X-Ville argument thread seems so much like a microcosm that it
made me think very intensely about the way you are all arguing, because so
many of you are really funny and really intelligent (much more than in
other ng's I've read) but you seem to be shooting yourselves in your
virtual feet!
It seems to me that part of what keeps this X-Ville argument so hostile is
the *tone* of even the posts that seem to be asking for a cease-fire. This
thread reminded me of arguments I've had, the kind that never get resolved,
and so I started trying to figure out what was going on in the subliminal
context of the arguments. (I'm really interested in the difference between
what people *say* and what they *mean* because often it's not the same
thing.)
I'm neither an X-Ville reader nor one of those who think XV should
relocate, I've never had a conversation with any of the people I'm about to
quote (Megadee406, Michael K. Richmann and Catherine Yronwode) and I don't
know anything about them except what they've written in these posts, so I
think I'm pretty neutral.
While reading I began to deconstruct the flames because it started to seem
unlikely, after I read a few, that either side was going to convince the
other of anything at all. I took a couple of the most recent posts, with
quotes from several people, and started taking them apart to figure out why
they might *seem* from the writers' viewpoints to be friendly and not
offensive to the other side, but why in actuality I was convinced that they
would do nothing but infuriate the people they were addressed to.
In a relatively conciliatory post, Megadee406 wrote:
>Anti-X-Villers: Let us have our fun..... Get a killfile, delete the
>well-labeled XV xv X-Ville headings. You should not have to leave this ng
>because of XV. But DON'T flame us for taking up space, or being childlike,
>or hinting at our intelligence level. Your flames are not helping your
cause >any. If you are flamed by an X-Villian, bite your tounge, and count
to twenty. >It's not worth it.
> X-Villers: Guys, let's just chill. Yes, I understand some of these posts
> are pissing you off. That one about working on counting to twenty almost
> earned a flame from me. But we gotta keep under control, or the A-XVers
> will have a real cause to flame us. If we act like jerks, that just adds
> to their case against us. As I said to them, if you are flamed, bite your
> tounge and count to twenty. It's not worth it.
Those two paragraphs had several commands in them, such as "Get a killfile"
and "DON'T flame us" and then referred directly to a flame from an
anti-X-viller: "hinting at our intelligence level," and then a judgement,
"Your flames are not helping your cause any." The advice she gave to the
XV's had an understanding sentence and a comment about how rude the other
side was, and then said "...will have a real cause to flame us" which could
be taken as refusing to acknowledge that they have any reason to be upset
now.
Seems like the response to this, from the anti-XV side, would be, "DON'T
tell us what to do!" and "oh, fine---quote *our* snotty posts, but not the
ones from the X-V's!" and "Oh, thanks for reminding us that flaming a Bad
Thing and doesn't help anything...we didn't know that." Or, "Listen to
this, they won't even admit that they understand why we're annoyed."
I'm not being gratuitously critical, I'm just pointing out that I would get
somewhat defensive at these words no matter what the argument was about,
though it does help that the argument is addressed to both sides. But it
seems as if it might have been more helpful if she had made suggestions
rather than simply saying "Get a killfile" or if she had said, "I hope that
the flamewars stop. I'm resolving not to add anything more like that to
this argument and I'm asking you (non-XV's AND XV's if you'd please stop
doing it too. It's not worth it." If I was on either side, I bet I
would've gotten a lot less defensive if I'd read that instead.
The post from the side that wants X-Ville to be gone also seems on the
surface to be trying to be helpful, but this one was more complicated to me
than the other one:
In article <32BCA8...@luckymojo.com>, c...@luckymojo.com wrote:
> Michael K. Richmann wrote:
>Back when the alt.tv-xfiles
> > group was first created, folks were considerate enough to create
this implies that the *current* dissenters are *not* considerate enough
> > an alt.tx.x-files.creative group for the large story postings that
> > were coming along for those that didn't wish to spend the time and the
> > money dowloading them. The same was requested from the XVille
> > folks and the response was basically "shove it where the sun doesn's
> > shine". If you don't like the hostile tone of the anti-XVillers, keep
> > in mind that you reap what you sow...
and that part isn't really much more than a sort of moralizing jab, with an
actual cliche in it---seems like he could have known that when you compare
some people to other "considerate" people, then re-tell what is already
known and characterize the other side as hostile (with quote marks around
something that's not a quote from them) and then throw a moralizing cliche
at them as if they were children, they're not going to respond very
favorably.
He *could* instead have said something like this:
"The alt.tv.x-files.creative group also used to be part of x-files, but
they made their own group so that it would be a matter of choice for people
who couldn't afford the time and money to download the large story
postings. I know the X-Ville people can understand that, and I'm wondering
if they would be willing to give us that choice as well?"
I think that would have conveyed the same idea with the difference that it
would talk directly to and acknowlege the validity of the XV's, instead of
comparing them unfavorably to an ideal. Whether or not agrees with them, it
would have avoided the antagonistic tone.
[c...@luckymojo.com wrote:]
> I agree. The hostility -- right fromn the get-go -- to the idea of
> starting a newsgroup, has been very unexppected. I think i was the first
> to suggest this -- and i was accused repeatedly of trying to "censor"
> V-Villers or to "kick them out," when what i was asking was that they
> set up their own arwa of usenet.
This seems bothersome because it's like the first section I quoted, where
the person writing isn't showing an understanding of the other side's point
of view. There's no sympathy, only shock and a claim of persecution
("accused repeatedly") and an assertion of innocence and goodwill, though
she says later that she herself has been snide and sarcastic. Simply
saying, "There has been a lot of mutual hostility about the idea of a new
XV newsgroup, an idea which was mine to begin with," would have been more
to the point, and also less likely to irritate XV's.
>
> Once again, people -- this is SIMPLE.
This short sentence has a lot in it that could be provoking:
---"Once again": in effect, "I've told you this before and you didn't get it"
---"people": a word that seems to actually *de*personalize an audience
---"this is SIMPLE": especially the capital letters, is like shouting at
people you believe to be stupid because maybe if you talk louder, or use
capitals, it will somehow be much more clear when you say the same thing
"once again". The whole sentence assumes that the problem is the stupidity
of the audience. It doesn't allow that they may have a valid argument, it
doesn't allow that they have an argument at all--it simply assumes that if
the morons would just PAY ATTENTION this time, they'd see how stupid they
are and go running off to do the "SIMPLE" task because the whole problem is
that they just don't get it. I think the post would have been much more
readable without this unnecessary sentence.
> Just subscribe to the newsgroup
> alt.config and ask for help. No votes are required, no concensus, and
> not much waiting time. Some helpful system administrator will help you
> set up alt.tv.x-files.xville in short order. Just explain that there are
> a bunch of you who want it, crosspost the message here and ask others of
> us to crosspost to alt.config in support of your new group -- and bingo:
> you'll get it! Then all you have to do is tell your system administrator
> that the new group was created and that you want to have access to it.
The word "help" used three times in the above paragraph sends a subtle
message, intentional or not: "You need help." This isn't addressing the
fact that this audience doesn't seem to *want* help. Maybe it would have
been better to say, "It's obvious that all this hostility probably hasn't
created an atmosphere that would make you excited about starting a new
group, but if you did consider it, the sys.ad in alt.config is there to
assist in the process." As long as she says that, she doesn't need to give
point-by-point instructions, and she would also not be making the absurd
suggestion that anyone is excited by this idea yet.
> I have posted this before but nobody seems to understand.
That sentence seems like it sums up the whole method: She's ignoring the
fact that the XV's don't *want* this information and insists that the
problem is that "nobody seems to understand. So she's "talking" louder and
louder, addressing a question that nobody has asked. Of course this post
would be perfectly appropriate if everyone had been clammoring to find out
whether the process is a simple one, or how it could be done, but this
isn't the case. So I personally can't come up with a legitimate
explanation for why she's persisting in this, because she's going to
achieve the exact opposite result of what she says she wants, and she's
guaranteeing this by insulting the intelligence of the people she wants to
influence---they *know* it's obvious that they haven't asked about how to
start a group, and that nobody would make the mistake of thinking that they
have.
Look at
> alt.tv.x-files.creative -- isn;t it working? Isn';t it on good terms
> with those of us who are not ganfic folks? Why can't you see that
> thumbing your nose at people and acting like you are going to drive US
> out of this group makes you seem childish and gives the impression that
> you don;t know how to make usenet work for you instead of against you?
This is also completely misdirected: the phrase "why can't you see"
presumes that they *don't* see, which is, as has become apparent, *not* the
problem...
And all those phrases (even if they are preceded only by 'seem' or 'look
like'): "thumbing your nose at people...drive US out...childish...you don't
know how to make usenet work"---those words in themselves are guaranteed to
anger whoever they're supposedly describing, and do nothing to show that
the writer is actually sincere about wanting to "help" because the above
paragraph is obviously going to anger and alienate the very people she's
addressing. Woudn't it have been better to say something along the lines
of:
"Look at alt.tv.x-files.creative---the folks who started that group took
their immense creativity and their new idea and now have a well-known group
that they can be proud of. I'm sure that with all your creativity and
organizational power and the fun that you have together, you could make a
really great new newsgroup and attract people who are specifically
interested in it instead of having to deal all the time with criticism from
people who, appreciate your efforts because we don't relate to them or
simply don't share the same interests." If she had said something like
that, she would have been giving recognition to the fact that the XV people
*are* creative and *are* good at organizing (this is obvious just by
reading their signatures and a few posts, the "town" they're creating has
buildings, jobs, characters) and she would have been talking about a
*positive* incentive to start a new group, rather than the negative one,
which she describes below as the result of their refusing to leave:
> Look, i know i have been snide and sarcastic, but if i can back off of
> that and offer to HELP you create a newsgroup -- walk you through it and
> get you started -- would you take advantage of the offer?
But she hasn't backed off---she's still being snide, and patronizing, and
she doesn't actually apologize at all for her offenses, she just offers to
barter: if she stops "being snide and sarcastic", would they take advantage
of the "offer"?
I can't understand how she thinks that *either* of those things is even
within the realm of possibility, considering everything that preceeded it.
I'm not saying that these posts I've used are the worst, or the only ones,
but doesn't it seem, when you look at it this way, that with just a little
more thought about the *true objective* of these posts (which, I assume, is
to "all just get along" on one side, or to have the XV's acknowledge that
some people have a time/bandwidth problem on the other side) might stand
more of a chance of being realized? It seems to me that the postings ebb
and flow...they get nicer, and then they get angrier. The nicer ones that
I've seen have received some more understanding responses from both sides.
That seems to be because they've written with more understanding of the
other side's problems, and they've been more willing to make amends for
their own errors. It's not so hard, I think, to write "kinder, gentler"
arguments if you only keep the question in mind, "What's my objective here?
What can I say that will help someone else understand where I'm coming from
and be sympathetic?" Haha, I just realized that if everyone thinks this is
stupid and gets mad at me, I will *not* have achieved my objective. But
then again, I guess I don't have a lot invested in how it turns out, so I
won't be losing anything either (though I'm sorry if I've inconvenienced
anyone with the length of this post, I guess I think it's worth it, though
you may disagree completely.)
Actually, I don't know if newsgroups are capable of taking such large
articles without me doing something to it to split it up? Well, in my
defense, I'd point out that I mostly lurk here and have hardly ever posted
anything in months and months until this thread came up, so maybe I've just
put all my months of mail into one post. ;) I just started writing, and
when it occured to me to post it to the newsgroup, I was too far along to
not want to say everything I was thinking about it.
-Gil
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Kitty
camgib wrote:
>
> Ain't gonna tell.
>
> Ain't gonna tell!
>
> Grin.
>
> Well.... you have your standard hero (and heroine, of course)
> figures,... your standard arch enemies,...
Would that be the Scully figurine with or without cleavage? And would
the Mulder figurine be with or with or without the red speedo?? (Easy
folks, what I *meant* was in a suit or a red speedo!). Happy Holidays,
all!
Kitty
X-ville CME and Saucy Barmaid
Alan Hurshman
GG <gog...@teleport.com> wrote in article
<gogirl-ya0236800...@news.teleport.com>...
content snipped........
Excellent analysis. Thank you.
Holm Alone
This XVille conflict is very similar to one that continues to rage in
rec.pets.cats, which I no longer read. There, a large number if posters do
this "meowchat" thing, where they talk for their cats in sort of a
babytalk, and a crative community has developed.
Those who don't enjoy it rant, and the flame wars ebb and flow, with an
ongoing debate about a breakaway group. They vote, the split is blocked, and
the war continues. The closest they have come to peace is preceding all
meowchat posts with MEOW, so all these can be sifted out or read selectively.
It seems it will never be resolved any better than this. The number of posts
there is consistently in the thousands. Not very encouraging, is it?
CrazyCatLady lisa...@csd.uwm.edu VillagerWithTorch
also: holm...@aol.com _v_ h
n (. .) h
yagottafigurewhatthehellyouknow????----ooo--0--ooo-------
Rufie710
In article <Pine.OSF.3.91.96122...@alpha1.csd.uwm.edu>,
Holm Alone <lisa...@alpha1.csd.uwm.edu> wrote:
> This XVille conflict is very similar to one that continues to rage in
> rec.pets.cats, which I no longer read. There, a large number if posters do
> this "meowchat" thing, where they talk for their cats in sort of a
> babytalk, and a crative community has developed.
>
Now* that* is some *weird* role playing game!!!!!!!!!! But you know ,
there is room for that in the world.... I think. "talk for their cats in a
sort of baby talk?!?" Man , I gotta check that out!
Ruth , wondering if there is a dog group the rotten hound could join. :-)
--
rufie710
"I tried Reality once, I found it too confining"
Alan Hurshman
Holm Alone <lisa...@alpha1.csd.uwm.edu> wrote in article
<Pine.OSF.3.91.96122...@alpha1.csd.uwm.edu>...
> This XVille conflict is very similar to one that continues to rage in
> rec.pets.cats, which I no longer read. There, a large number if posters do
> this "meowchat" thing, where they talk for their cats in sort of a
> babytalk, and a crative community has developed.
Hot damn! Just to be annoying I think I will create
my own 'gator chat thread. Sort of a rebellious outgrowth
of XV. Then the XV and non-XV people can join together
to flame 'gator chat. Nothing like a common enemy
to bring people together.
"GROWL. Chomp. Chomp."
Tick-tock, tick-tock, tick-tock.
Megadee406
<<"GROWL. Chomp. Chomp."
Tick-tock, tick-tock, tick-tock.>>
Oh, that is too CUTE! But just wait 'till you hear what my little poopsie
had to say!
"Rrrghrr, Xinthewindow, rrrrrrgghhghhh, whosdarinmorgan, grrrrrroowwwwlll,
rrerewghhhhh, ROARISH, whatisblondiesname, regrheghhhhhh!"
I am not who I am!
Meg
(Well did you evah? Nevah. What a swell party this is....)
X*X*X*X*X*X*X*X*X*X*X*X*X*X*X*X*X
*X-Ville's Resident Juvenile Delinquent and part-time WIB*
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"The answer is cheese on crackers with cold beer." -Nick Lea on the meaning of life (IRC Chat, 12/16/96)
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laural
Alan Hurshman wrote:
>
> Holm Alone <lisa...@alpha1.csd.uwm.edu> wrote in article
> <Pine.OSF.3.91.96122...@alpha1.csd.uwm.edu>...
> > This XVille conflict is very similar to one that continues to rage in
> > rec.pets.cats, which I no longer read. There, a large number if posters do
> > this "meowchat" thing, where they talk for their cats in sort of a
> > babytalk, and a crative community has developed.
>
> Hot damn! Just to be annoying I think I will create
> my own 'gator chat thread. Sort of a rebellious outgrowth
> of XV. Then the XV and non-XV people can join together
> to flame 'gator chat. Nothing like a common enemy
> to bring people together.
>
> Tick-tock, tick-tock, tick-tock.
>
> Alan Hurshman,
> The Spa, X-Ville.
>
> (Halifax, Nova Scotia)
I'll bite!!! (ha ha, made myself laugh)
Let the flames rage.
I HATE gators! They are soooo mean and green. Who needs them?
They are just relics from an era of long ago!
They eat cute little dogs and chase even cuter FBI agents.
(Technically, I think that was a crocodile, but then this is a
flame, so I'm supposed to make erroneous leaps of logic)
Why anyone would like or want a gator is beyond my ability to
understand. So all you people out there who eat/breathe/sleep/
live and die for gators should just go somewhere else!
(That was fun! So, Alan, do I have potential as a shithead flamer?)
~laural~
Caretaker of The Field Where I Died Memorial Gardens
and
Part-time gator killer
Jan Morier
YOO HOO Paulverizer!
You got the lyrics to Rippy the Gator
for the non-initiated?
Arrogant Worms are *so* cool!
RightBrain
the Village Idiot
Mac Nooge
Alan Hurshman wrote:
>
> Holm Alone <lisa...@alpha1.csd.uwm.edu> wrote in article
> <Pine.OSF.3.91.96122...@alpha1.csd.uwm.edu>...
> > This XVille conflict is very similar to one that continues to rage in
> > rec.pets.cats, which I no longer read. There, a large number if posters do
> > this "meowchat" thing, where they talk for their cats in sort of a
> > babytalk, and a crative community has developed.
>
> Hot damn! Just to be annoying I think I will create
> my own 'gator chat thread. Sort of a rebellious outgrowth
> of XV. Then the XV and non-XV people can join together
> to flame 'gator chat. Nothing like a common enemy
> to bring people together.
>
> "GROWL. Chomp. Chomp."
> Tick-tock, tick-tock, tick-tock.
>
> --
> Alan Hurshman,
> The Spa, X-Ville.
>
> (Halifax, Nova Scotia)
And, my evil minions, the hordes of Small Yappy Dogs reply:
Yapyapyipyiperrrrruf!rrrruf!rrruf! YIPyipyiopyap!
(Actually people don't want to know what most dogs are saying. It's not
all that interesting. But for those who *are* interested:)
Translation:
Hey!hey!hey! There's a biggreenthing! Hey! Hey!
I'l eat it up! Hey!hey!
-Beagle, Director, Queeuqeg Memorial Small Yappy Dog Rest Home/Bait Shop
Alan Hurshman
Megadee406 <megad...@aol.com> wrote in article
<19961228014...@ladder01.news.aol.com>...
> <<"GROWL. Chomp. Chomp."
> Tick-tock, tick-tock, tick-tock.>>
>
> had to say!
>
> "Rrrghrr, Xinthewindow, rrrrrrgghhghhh, whosdarinmorgan, grrrrrroowwwwlll,
> rrerewghhhhh, ROARISH, whatisblondiesname, regrheghhhhhh!"
I wonder what Flukeman would have to say to that?
Or to a gator in the sewers. There are a lot down
there, arn't there?
Alan Hurshman
laural <da...@iglou.com> wrote in article <32C489...@iglou.com>...
big snipp....
> Why anyone would like or want a gator is beyond my ability to
> understand. So all you people out there who eat/breathe/sleep/
> live and die for gators should just go somewhere else!
>
> (That was fun! So, Alan, do I have potential as a shithead flamer?)
Well, not bad for a newbie flamer. But you forget the
'looking down your nose from a great height' tone that
the best mindless flamers cultivate. You also forgot
to ask what this has to do with the X-Files. After all,
shouldn't we be spending all our time complaining about
the 'fact' that a poster in FM's office has been changed?
Right.
SinD Roy
In article <01bbf4d0$be38f7c0$461e...@devel1.Psychology.Dal.Ca>, "Alan
Hurshman" <alan...@demosys.gcomm.com> wrote:
>Hey Alan you are right we should spend all our time complaining about
the poster that has changed in Mulder's office. Maybe he spilt coffee on
it and he had to buy a new one. Or maybe he shot something else onto it
while he was sitting his chair facing the poster one late night reading
his favorite porno mag. (Ramona Cleft?) Wouldn't want Scully to come
(excuse the pun) in some time and see that sticky stuff all over his
beloved poster. He went to the local poster store and got himself a new
one. With the use of my brilliant eye sight I actually noticed in a
recent rerun that the"I want to believe" poster had been replaced by an
entirely different poster. This one was called "I Like to PLay Games"
Which is actually a great soft porn straight to video, type erotic
thriller. Starring the equally stunning LIsa Boyle. Now of course the
glimse of this new poster is very quick, but any descerning X file fan has
a vcr with a pause button.
Gatorville seems like a good idea to me. How bout an itroductory offer,
do one flame get one flame free, along with a free flame retartent suit so
we can keep it going for ever and ever and ever!
The wolf
Alan Hurshman
SinD Roy <rece...@nt.com> wrote in article
<reception-291...@47.4.129.123>...
> >Hey Alan you are right we should spend all our time complaining about
> the poster that has changed in Mulder's office. Maybe he spilt coffee on
> it and he had to buy a new one. Or maybe he shot something else onto it
> while he was sitting his chair facing the poster one late night reading
> his favorite porno mag.
I think the real truth is, Scully snuck in one morning
and stole it. Sometimes she seems too innocent by half.
>
> Gatorville seems like a good idea to me. How bout an itroductory offer,
> do one flame get one flame free,
With a bit of effort we could get the flame rate up to the
level you find in the comp.[operating-system-of-your-choice].
advocacy groups. Hot enough to cook on.
Megadee406
<<Well, not bad for a newbie flamer. But you forget the
'looking down your nose from a great height' tone that
the best mindless flamers cultivate. You also forgot
to ask what this has to do with the X-Files. After all,
shouldn't we be spending all our time complaining about
the 'fact' that a poster in FM's office has been changed?
Right.>>
And don't forget-- you must correct the spelling and grammar mistakes. All
of them. And the obligatory "You're wasting bandwidth!!" comment. If you
really want tirk people, put in something about how the offending post
cost you $.0000000000001 to load, and now you want full payment. Soon, you
can be a flaming pro!!
I am not who I am!
Meg
(With a nod and a wink to Nan and Bobbie)
SinD Roy
In article <01bbf5c3$bc3469c0$461e...@devel1.Psychology.Dal.Ca>, "Alan
Hurshman" <alan...@demosys.gcomm.com> wrote:
> Cool I'll bring the marmellows and hot dogs, say you want a beer with
that? It's new Gillian Lite.
P.S. man do I ever feel like a doof for answering that scully lover
*&%$#@ that anti Canada string it up to 13 now and it's only been three
days. Arrgg! He just pissed me off. I'm going to find some patience and
get new Binford flame throwers with full safety's on them.
Happy new year!
The wolf