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Parvarti WATCHED Russell Clips BEFORE "Hereos vs. Villains" Tapings

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MICHELLE H.

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May 11, 2010, 8:36:15 PM5/11/10
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There is a guy who runs a similiar "Survivor" and "Realty TV" group. He
KNOWS people who work ON SURVIVOR, and he gets the "Boot List" before
the start of every season. He posted the boot list for "Heroes vs.
Villains" before the season started, and he's PERFECT once again.


When people don't believe him that he knows the 100% percent CORRECT
boot list at the start of season, he tells people that he will put up
his list against theirs, and for every single person that they are
wrong, they pay him $500 Dollars for each one wrong on their list. And
for every single person that he has wrong, he will pay them $1,000
Dollars for each person that he has wrong on his list.


But the guy has never been wrong, and why would he?? He has a friend
THAT WORKS ON SURVIVOR.


Anyway, here is what he posted a few weeks ago, about the whole
Boo/James/Parvarti/Russell/ connection:


"Boo/James/Parvarti/Russell Connection, and How Parvarti Knew ALL About
Russell"


The scoop on the connections.


Krista Stegal of Big Brother is from LA. and one of her best friends is
Boo.


After she was on BB she suggested to Erika Shay, who at that time was a
casting agent for Survivor, to use Boo on Survivor.


Boo knew Russell and James already.


Russell's family is from LA., not Texas.


Erika Shay cast Boo for Survivor.


Boo suggests to Erika Shay to cast his friend James Clement on Survivor.


Erika Shay casts James Clement for Survivor.


Erika Shay becomes big friends with Parvati Shallow.


Boo suggests to Erika Shay to cast his friend Russell Hantz for
Survivor.


The next season was full and Russell was told to apply for Pirate Master
2. He did.


Pirate Master 1 bombed and did not even finish airing all episodes from
season one.


Boo reminds Erika Shay about his friend Russell Hantz.


Erika calls Russell and tells him to fly to L.A. and interview. He does.


Russell is cast for season 19.


Erika Shay moves in with Parvati Shallow.


Heroes vs Villians is cast and includes Jonathan Penner on the villains.


Season 19 begins taping.


Parvati Shallow visits Erika Shay on site where 19 is filming. She is
told about Russell Hantz and is SHOWN dailys from the taping.


Russell and Shambo are asked midway through if they are interested in
participating in season 20, an all stars version. Russell accepts and
Shambo says "no thanks".


Jonathan Penner is told he did not make the final cut.


Natalie White, winner of season 19, was an alternate in case Courtney
Yates did not pass the physical.


Parvati returns home from her trip knowing ALL about Russell Hantz.


Word starts to leak out about Parvati being privy to information about
Russell Hantz and Erika Shay 'resigns' from her position with the show.


It all started with Krista from Big Brother and ends up including Boo,
James, Russell, Parvati, and Erika.


All this is from my VERY RELIABLE source.

END
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Nightspirit1701

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May 11, 2010, 9:32:44 PM5/11/10
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FALCO...@webtv.net (MICHELLE H.) Gave a shout out with:

So Parvati didn't actually meet Russell until they were ready to start
filming 20. I don't think she would have needed a heads up about him. He's
not that hard to figure out.

Thees two seasons of Survivor are a perfect Greek tragedy. Russell build yup
to be the greatest Survivor ever is humbled by three women he thought were
stupid and week

--
Be good and if you can't be good then be good at it

Nightspirit

Barbara

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May 11, 2010, 9:57:14 PM5/11/10
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"Nightspirit1701" <nightsp...@att.net> wrote in message
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Well then with these accusations.. they need to go straight to the FCC and
do no pass go. If this is true and I have my doubts about part of it,
knowing what I know about Russell Hantz....

So turn it over to the FCC let an investigation start ... if it's true then
Mark Burnett will be fined and possible jail time.. along with Jeff Probst.
CBS could lose its license.... along with fines.. You see all your
accusations ... is ILLEGAL activity.... Parv, Krista and whomever else could
do jail time....

Barbara


Brian Smith

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May 11, 2010, 10:59:55 PM5/11/10
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"Barbara" <barbara...@sbcglobal.net> wrote in message
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Part of this story makes a lot of sense. The part about a casting person
asking former reality stars if they know people who might be interested in
doing the show. We have lots of proof of such things happening.

Now for the parts that don't make sense.

1. What would a casting associate be doing in Samoa during the filming of a
season? If anyone was going to be in Samoa from casting it would be the head
of casting and that person isn't Erika. I'll look up the name after (it
escapes me at the moment but I know it's not Erika Shay).

2. I find it hard to believe that crew members are allowed to have friends
visit them while the show is being shot. Wouldn't that make it hard to keep
what happened secret? Not to mention these people are supposed to be super
busy during this time.

3. Natalie White was *not* the possible replacement for Courtney. Everything
I've seen said it was Natalie Bolton who should have been cast anyway. Also,
Natalie White as a Villain is just plain unbelievable. No viewer of S19
would ever buy Natalie White being a Villain. MB and Jeff wouldn't even
dream of trying to cast her as anything but a Hero.

4. If I remember correctly, the plans for S20 to be an all star type season
were out before S19 even started filming. Are we to believe that MB and Jeff
never considered Parv to be one of the cast and that they had no plans to
cast at least one person from S19? MB might not have any problems with
changing the rules on the fly but there is no way in hell that he would risk
the integrity of the game by letting a potential player watch other
potential players.

5. Rob Cesternino did a long interview with Penner about a month ago and I
don't recall Penner saying he was asked and then turned down. Do you Dubya?

6. If Erika Shay wanted to help Parv so much then why didn't she push to
have her cast as Hero? She would have been with James, Amanda, Cirie and
Candice all of whom she's played with before. You'd think having four allies
would be better than just one.

Too much of this story doesn't make sense and I don't care how good the boot
lists have been. An accurate boot list does not imply this conspiracy theory
is true.

Brian


Jenn

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May 11, 2010, 11:21:20 PM5/11/10
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On May 11, 9:57 pm, "Barbara" <barbarasherr...@sbcglobal.net> wrote:

>
> So turn it over to the FCC let an investigation start ... if it's true then
> Mark Burnett will be fined and possible jail time.. along with Jeff Probst.
> CBS could lose its license.... along with fines.. You see all your
> accusations ... is ILLEGAL activity.... Parv, Krista and whomever else could
> do jail time....
>
> Barbara

Considering how long they have been cranking out new Survivor's, it's
not a surprise that some of the players make connections outside the
show. In giving them a second (and third) bite at the apple, it's no
surprise that some players would think of trying to use those
connections to further their chance at another big check. If these
accusations have any truth, the other players who were cheated will
make sure it comes out.

I'm less bothered by "illegal" connections than by cheap editing
tricks that fit some manufactured storyline. Call me naive, but my
belief in "reality tv" has been put to the test- especially in these
past two seasons.

There have been a bunch of evolutions with Survivor starting with
Borneo where no one except the eventual winner even knew how to vote
as a bloc. It became widely known that Hatch knew how it worked
because he'd seen the original European Survivor. He had knowledge the
others didn't have access to, which is pretty much what you're saying
about Parv. The difference is no one suggested that Hatch should go to
jail because he knew something before he played that gave him an
advantage over the others. (They said he should go to jail for not
paying the tax on his winnings, but that's another story.)

Barbara

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May 12, 2010, 1:24:03 AM5/12/10
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"Brian Smith" <dcg_...@hotmail.com> wrote in message
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Russell lives "across" town from me .. about an hour away, in a one horse
town and part of that time that is a lame horse. He lives on his parents
land in a double wide. Amazing what you find out through friends that live
in that town. Now what I know about Russell, he doesn't own an oil company,
it's a marine towing company and his parents own it. A friend of mine that
does background checks for her company did some checking and she said this
was from the Texas Railroad Commission.

Yes, Russell is from Texas.. not sure if he was born here or not I could
research that;; but we have so many transplanted Texans.. I could careless
where he was born.....

We are a few hours from the Louisiana border so it's not a big deal to go to
Lousiana; especially if you are going to Lake Charles or New Orleans to
gamble..... Lafayette, from what I remember when we lived there is a party
town in its own right.

Barbara


do...@webtv.net

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May 12, 2010, 7:13:27 AM5/12/10
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Not surprising.

Another reason that I like "LIVE".

The BB players can know each other...but at least we get to see them
interact LIVE, 24/7.

do...@webtv.net

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May 12, 2010, 7:24:25 AM5/12/10
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Brian, commenting on Michelle's comments said:

"Too much of this story doesn't make sense and I don't care how good the
boot lists have been. An accurate boot list does not imply this
conspiracy theory is true."

Well, Bri...you know much more than I do about this stuff...but isn't it
bad enough that there is a correct boot list?

About the details...I would think that WHATEVER happened...MB would make
sure that it was 'legal'...if only by the letter of the law.

clau...@webtv.net

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May 12, 2010, 9:45:12 AM5/12/10
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]There is a guy who runs a similiar

]"Survivor" and "Realty TV" group. He
]KNOWS people who work ON
]SURVIVOR, and he gets the "Boot List"
]before the start of every season. He
]posted the boot list for "Heroes vs.
]Villains" before the season started, and
]he's PERFECT once again.

Yes and this guy and his wife post all Survivor articles in full with
no links or even notations of who they are by originally
(attributations, is that a word? lol). They post them, even Jeff Prost's
blogs, as if they were their own original posts and no one ever calls
them on it. So the guy who is concerned with copywrites, maybe you
should check them out. lol
Also, supposedly the guy's wife (the one with the other NG) is
missyae or something like that, who posts spoilers all over the place in
other NGs and forums.
The nickname of the NG guy is TheGame and the NG has that in the
title. I will bring the whole addy if anyone wants it. I think it might
be an alt.discuss group though, Webtv only.

Niki

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May 12, 2010, 10:04:07 AM5/12/10
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On 5/11/2010 9:57 PM, Barbara wrote:
> So turn it over to the FCC let an investigation start ... if it's true then
> Mark Burnett will be fined and possible jail time.. along with Jeff Probst.
> CBS could lose its license.... along with fines.. You see all your
> accusations ... is ILLEGAL activity.... Parv, Krista and whomever else could
> do jail time....

Like any of that's really going to happen. I love the show but at times
it seems so scripted. Well, mostly most of the time anymore. It
sometimes seems like nothing but bad actors are on here auditioning for
something.

--
Niki

MICHELLE H.

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May 12, 2010, 10:06:33 AM5/12/10
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http://www.tivocommunity.com/tivo-vb/showthread.php?p=7929782

Parvati and Russell with the help of a CBS staffer cheated a bit and it
ended up having a pretty big influence on the game. On a separate note
Russell is not really a millionaire and actually lived in a mobile home.
There's no proof CBS actively or knowingly played a part in any of this
but they know now and have been trying to cover all of it it up. Several
players know about the cheating as do a few reporters who have been
tracking these stories.


During Samoa filming Parvati and Survivor casting director Erika Shay
who are friends vacationed on the island together.


http://junketdrawer.com/survivor20/ParvatiErika.jpg


Parvati got info from her friend Erika Shay on Russell and subsequently
Parvati and Russell had an alliance before S20 even started filming.
Shay was in the doghouse but is now back to work. She helped find the
new superstar Russell so a little cheating is being over looked because
it all made for exciting tv.


Sugar outright accused her but the interview was cut off by CBS at that
point.


On Russell and what anybody knew before the season started:


"Certain people might have inside people who might know more about
what's really going on and they're best friends with people... It's
life, it's "Survivor," it's Hollywood. People did know certain things [
coughs-Parvati-coughs ]".


That's exactly who I was thinking of. She made some comments in an
interview during the show that seemed like she knew more about Russell
--


"Yeah. Well, all they told us, the common players, was that Russell was
on the last season, he obviously did something important or big enough
for them to bring him back and when he was placed on the Villains team
we knew he was a villain and probably went really far in the game. But
some other people maybe knew some things..." [ At this point, the
interview is cut off by CBS ]


http://blog.zap2it.com/frominsidethebox/2010/02/survivor-hero-jessica-sugar-kiper-on-the-colby-flirtation-inside-russell-info.html


EDIT:Someone forwarded me the following recently.


Reality TV World: There's been a lot of speculation and rumors that
Parvati somehow knew something about Russell or maybe had some kind of
interaction with him before Heroes vs. Villains was filmed [ even though
his
Samoa season hadn't aired yet ] Given you were their ally, are you aware
of anything like that?


Candice Woodcock : Can't answer that


Danielle DiLorenzo : We can't answer that.


Reality TV World: Okay, everyone else [ I've asked about it so far ]
has, but that's fine.


Candice Woodcock : Well, we're not.


[ EDITOR'S NOTE: After the interview, a CBS spokesperson insisted the
network did not tell Candice and Danielle they could not answer such
questions. "It's not that they can't answer, it's that they didn't want
to answer," he said.]


Page will just not accept this link so if you want to see it gotta cut
and paste.


http://www.realitytvworld.com/news/exclusive-danielle-dilorenzo-talks-about-survivor-heroes-vs-villains--10909.php


Russell has hinted in interviews that he went in expecting to be in an
alliance with Parvati and Danielle.


The two principal sources for the S20 spoilers were originally Survivor
Sucks posters missyae ( who some say is Russell's wife but I have seen
no proof of that altho his wife has posted spoilers on Facebook like
that she visited him on HvV ergo he made final 6 in HvV ) and
survivrcruz. They were posting correct details as far back as October I
believe and have been proven to be about 80 or 90% accurate.


They indicated that Erika Shay tried to take credit for discovering
Russell, she and Russell became tight and Parvati is or was Shay's "bff"
( best friend forever ).


SS poster missyae, said Parvati got filled in on Russell's gameplay in
S19 and Parvati and Russell 'hooked up' ( meaning formed an alliance )
BEFORE S20 even started filming and that Russell bragged about this,
other players know about it and are prohibited by CBS from talking about
it.


Amanda said the game was not 'pure' anymore, she'd never play again,
something really messed up happened but she is not allowed to talk about
it.


tvwatch.people.com/2010/05/03/survivor-amaNda-kimmel-heroes-villains-russell-hatch/

MICHELLE H.

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May 12, 2010, 10:23:02 AM5/12/10
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Lots of info. about how Erica Shay "resigned" from Survivor, and how she
is best buddies with Parvarti:


1)


Erica Shay Resigns From Survivor - Google Search

http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&source=hp&ie=ISO-8859-1&q=erika+shay+resigns+from+survivor

2)


Erika Shay Friends With Parvati - Google Search

http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&ie=UTF-8&ei=87bqS7uVIIKC8gaUwpnlDg&sa=X&oi=spellfullpage&resnum=1&ct=result&cd=2&ved=0CEQQvwUoAQ&q=erika+shay+friends+with+parvati&spell=1

MICHELLE H.

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May 12, 2010, 10:32:58 AM5/12/10
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I guess that another female Survivor casting director, Lynn Spillman, is
best buddies with Erika Shay and Parvarti, but don't know is she was
involved with the whole thing of letting Parvarti watch Season #19 clips
of Russell??

Lynn Spillman Friends With Parvarti - Google Search

http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&ie=ISO-8859-1&sa=2&q=lynn+spillman+friends+with+parvarti

Barbara

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"MICHELLE H." <FALCO...@webtv.net> wrote in message
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Everything about Erika resigning from your google search are in forums.
Where is the actually article that she resigned that is NOT in forum form.
Everything you are stating is coming from forums....

MICHELLE H.

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May 12, 2010, 11:01:52 AM5/12/10
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Yes, this season has seemed very scripted, probably because Erika Shay
wanted her buddies Russell and Parvarti to make it all the way to the
end.


I mean look at the CALM elements this season! Where's the torrential
rain storms, the bug bites, the struggle to stay fed and warm, the dirt
and grime, and shreaded garb?


In the last Immunity Challenge, one of the villain gals say they dropped
out because of hunger, and Probst tries hard to make us believe it, but
not one of them has lost an ounce by the looks of their near naked
bodies! They dropped out knowing it was an easy win for Erika Shays best
buddy, Parvati.


Plus, how can they say they are hungry, when they have been getting
"Outback Steakhouse", oatmeal cookies, sandwiches, pizza, etc, etc. at
like every challenge. Plus, their camp is blooming with bananna trees
everywhere!!!!


The game of Survivor itself has become more contrived each season. I
want the real Survivor back!

Barbara

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May 12, 2010, 11:57:59 AM5/12/10
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"MICHELLE H." <FALCO...@webtv.net> wrote in message
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Oh wow... now Mark Burnnett can control the weather. From watching
Ponderosa... It's been storming a lot... and they are not far from where the
game was being played.....

If you are so unhappy with the show. Why are you bother watching it?

Barbara


MICHELLE H.

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May 12, 2010, 11:50:16 AM5/12/10
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Well according to imdb.com, she was "senior casting associate" on
Survivor from 2004-2009. They have her last year on Survivor as 2009,
which is when "Hereos vs. Villains" was filmed.


It says that in 2010, she was the "senior casting associate" of "The
Amazing Race". So it looks like its possible that she did "resign" from
Survivor after word got out that she let her best buddy Parvarti, know
ALL about Russell, and watch video footage clips of Russell while
Survivor 19 was filming.


Erika Shay


http://www.imdb.com/name/nm1671771/

Barbara

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"MICHELLE H." <FALCO...@webtv.net> wrote in message
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Big deal she moved to a different show. It happens all the time in
Hollywood. It doesn't mean anything....


MICHELLE H.

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May 12, 2010, 12:07:17 PM5/12/10
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Yeah, but it's not like you are going to go to cbs.com, and they are
going to have an article about Erika Shay resigning. I doubt they tell
people and make public, every single person, that quits or is fired from
a show.


And Second, if this is true about how she let Parvarti watch filming of
Russell from Survivor #19, then I doubt that CBS wants it to go public,
and they want to KEEP IT UNDER WRAPS.

THE SPOILER

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Mark Burnett WOULD NEVER COMPROMISE THE INTEGRITY OF HIS SHOW.

This thread flushes out the kooks and so far it's you MICHELLE H.

Why, Mark is like a son to me :) I sure have a lot of "sons".

THE SPOILER

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Nice sass, Barb.

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Nightspirit1701

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FALCO...@webtv.net (MICHELLE H.) Gave a shout out with:

> There is a guy who runs a similiar "Survivor" and "Realty TV" group. He

All this is well and good but it is not proof beyond a reasonable doubt. So
they knew each other it is a small community in Hollywood. Just because she
visited her friend doesn't mean she was shown anything about Russell.
Pravati is smart enough to figure out Russell without any help. At most she
may have pick up some random gossip but that is it.

MICHELLE H.

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May 12, 2010, 2:40:26 PM5/12/10
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Then what a coincidence it was that Jessica "Sugar" Kipper knew all
about this, and she was the 1ST one voted off!?


Plus when she talked about it on CBS, they cut her interview off in the
middle of her speaking.


Hmmm!?

THE SPOILER

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May 12, 2010, 3:25:05 PM5/12/10
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In love, just like Doob, I mention that you should take those pills
EVERYDAY.

Nightspirit1701

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May 12, 2010, 4:44:25 PM5/12/10
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FALCO...@webtv.net (MICHELLE H.) Gave a shout out with:

> Then what a coincidence it was that Jessica "Sugar" Kipper knew all

show me a physical piece of Evidance that puts Pravati and Russell together
before the filming of 20. You can all you have is a theory that so far has
no support.

Brian Smith

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"Barbara" <barbara...@sbcglobal.net> wrote in message
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Based on the Ponderosa videos it looks like the weather was more stormy than
nice the majority of the time. Earlier in the season didn't they make a big
deal about the Villains suffering from the rain because their shelter was so
badly constructed? The Heroes had a good shelter so that's why we never
heard much about the weather impacting them. The "secret scenes" video clips
did give us some indications that the food supply wasn't that great either.

Brian


do...@webtv.net

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May 12, 2010, 5:08:10 PM5/12/10
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'Mee-SHELL' gave us some good stuff.

(It takes a webtv'er)

So...SUGAR was gonna nail 'em...and MANDY hates them.

I always KNEW they were 'good people.'

Parv and Russell are so crooked that they could sleep on a corkscrew.

Now...many fans of the show will never, ever KNOW this stuff...which is
good.

It was good TV.

But WE find out cuz we're "UBER" fans.

Except for those who like Russell and J.T....they're 'GOOBER' fans.

Hey thanks...you've been great...buy an orangeade on the way out of the
theater...I get a commission.

:-)

do...@webtv.net

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May 12, 2010, 5:17:13 PM5/12/10
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Michelle said:

"The game of Survivor itself has become more contrived each season. I
want the real Survivor back!"


I think that we can get about 16 or 20 people from the group here.

I can apply for us as a 'special group'.


We'd be GREAT on the show...

Where's Cole? (I THINK that was his name.)

do...@webtv.net

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May 12, 2010, 5:25:37 PM5/12/10
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The Spoiler wrote:

'On May 12, 4:24 am, d...@webtv.net wrote:'

The question IS...WTF was I doing POSTING at 4:24am?

What am I...NUTS?

Brian Smith

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"Barbara" <barbara...@sbcglobal.net> wrote in message
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I did a bunch of research last night on Erika and all of these links and
she's been doing TAR and Survivor at the same time. It's possible that the
Survivor date hasn't been updated yet because of all of the recruiting for
S19 and S20 was done last year. Or it could be simple sloppiness.

I was looking at one site where rumors/leaks started coming out the day
players arrived back from filming S20. I had a good laugh at how wrong those
first leaks were. Stuff like Sandra not doing well at all, James being
medivac'd (sp?) which I guess was sort of close to reality, Parv being with
the Heroes, etc. But as time went on (matter of weeks) the info started to
become a lot more accurate in most cases. I can also see where people think
Russell or someone close to him was a source of some of the best leaks. But
I saw no solid evidence that someone associated with the show had helped to
"rig" events. Yes, people were telling the Erika story in slightly different
versions to what Michelle has said but no one backed up what they were
saying. And I'll repeat once again that Erika Shay is not the head casting
person. It's Lynn Spellman and there are reports that her and Jeff fought
over who should make the cast and that she wanted her friends/recruits. So
was it Lynn rigging things or Erika? Or did the "rigging" end with how Lynn
pushed her "people" on to the show?

Brian


do...@webtv.net

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May 12, 2010, 5:32:51 PM5/12/10
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'The Spoiler', still trying to cause trouble...said:

"The truth is: If Parv had seen S19 and RussHELL's antics, he would have
been THE VERY FIRST BOOK.

You shot yourself in the boot, Crazy Michelle H."


The Book of Russell? Are you talking religion now?

Are you thinking of Matthew or John...or the Virgin Parv?

I just like to get things straight.

do...@webtv.net

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May 12, 2010, 5:58:59 PM5/12/10
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Mrs..uh..'The Spoiler' said to Michelle...who is absolutely correct in
questioning these things (and I tend to agree with those articles):

"In love, just like Doob, I mention that you should take those pills
EVERYDAY."

Was that a feeble, non-Jewish attempt at humor?

Something like "I might say"?

Something like...

"I'd listen to the doctor and keep taking your meds...I kid because I
love"

Ya know, Spoiler...for one who gained credibility by showing that there
was a REAL boot list...you're getting awfully feisty about this.

Why might that be?

do...@webtv.net

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'The Spirit of the Night' said about reports of 'fakey behavior' on
Survivor:

"All this is well and good but it is not proof beyond a reasonable
doubt. So they knew each other it is a small community in Hollywood.
Just because she visited her friend doesn't mean she was shown anything
about Russell. Pravati is smart enough to figure out Russell without any
help. At most she may have pick up some random gossip but that is it."

True. Reasonable doubt would mean that they would not get nailed in
court.

There was so much speculation by US that stuff seemed 'odd' this
season...that I would think the 'gist' of these reports was true...even
if every detail was not exact.

But that's just ME. I don't hafta be right.

do...@webtv.net

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'Nightspirit' said:

"show me a physical piece of Evidance that puts Pravati and Russell
together before the filming of 20. You can all you have is a theory that
so far has no support."

Would Russell's semen on Parv's BIKINI count?

(I just wondered..I don't have that. :-)

shawn

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that's the part that's crazy. No one should be allowing anyone to cast
people just because they are friends with one of the former players.
They should only be casting based on who will make for the best show.
Anyone not interested in going for that kind of cast should be removed
from the process by Mark Burnett.

Barbara

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"Brian Smith" <dcg_...@hotmail.com> wrote in message
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Coach made mention after JT got to Ponderosa they had a Tropical Storm
hitting them. Being the time of yera they usually film.. it's during the
Storm seasons....

If food was plenty, then Rupert wouldn't have been worried about someone
eating extra banana's.

Barbara


Barbara

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"Brian Smith" <dcg_...@hotmail.com> wrote in message
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> "Barbara" <barbara...@sbcglobal.net> wrote in message
> news:hsejo3$rea$1...@news.eternal-september.org...
>>
>> "MICHELLE H." <FALCO...@webtv.net> wrote in message
>> news:3862-4BEA...@storefull-3253.bay.webtv.net...
>>> Well according to imdb.com, she was "senior casting associate" on
>>> Survivor from 2004-2009. They have her last year on Survivor as 2009,
>>> which is when "Hereos vs. Villains" was filmed.
>>>
>>>
>>> It says that in 2010, she was the "senior casting associate" of "The
>>> Amazing Race". So it looks like its possible that she did "resign" from
>>> Survivor after word got out that she let her best buddy Parvarti, know
>>> ALL about Russell, and watch video footage clips of Russell while
>>> Survivor 19 was filming.
>>>
>>>
>>> Erika Shay
>>>
>>>
>>> http://www.imdb.com/name/nm1671771/
>>>
>>
>> Big deal she moved to a different show. It happens all the time in
>> Hollywood. It doesn't mean anything....
>
> I did a bunch of research last night on Erika and all of these links and
> she's been doing TAR and Survivor at the same time. It's possible that the
> Survivor date hasn't been updated yet because of all of the recruiting for
> S19 and S20 was done last year. Or it could be simple sloppiness.
>

They use basically the same casting directors for both shows. When Dave (
from team Mary/Dave in TAR S10)... He orginally audtion for Survivor. They
told him at the audition that TAR has been waiting for a coal miner and he
needed a partner. Well.. the rest is history.

Barbara


Brian Smith

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But that happened *during* the game right after her performed cunnilingus on
Parv. I'd supply you a link and password to the secret website that has all
of the juicy stuff they don't want the average viewer to see but I don't
want the morality police here getting all worked up. :-)

I could also provide you a link to the real reason why Russell went after
Danielle. It involved Russell's request for some three-way A2M action and
Danielle didn't want to be the "M" part. I'm sure glad that AG doesn't have
these hang-ups with BB!

Brian


Jenn

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May 12, 2010, 8:58:21 PM5/12/10
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On May 12, 7:12 pm, "Brian Smith" <dcg_br...@hotmail.com> wrote:

>
> But that happened *during* the game right after her performed cunnilingus on
> Parv. I'd supply you a link and password to the secret website that has all
> of the juicy stuff they don't want the average viewer to see but I don't
> want the morality police here getting all worked up. :-)

Bzzzzzt. The truth is clear to those who pay attention. Danielle's
coy little purr to Russell "Parv and I are closer than you think"
hinted at where the real pre-alliance was. The clips that prove it are
so secret that even MB doesn't know where they are but if you don't
tell anyone, I'll tell you it's on a certain asian server. There is
big BIG money involved. Did you really think those girls were in it
for a measly million?

Brian Smith

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"shawn" <nanof...@gmail.com> wrote in message
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Though not directly related to this season, Billy Garcia (the guy who had
the huge crush on Candice in Cook Islands) said that he applied for the show
and that the only reason he got accepted is because MB and Jeff really liked
him. He said Lynne Spillman wanted nothing to do with him. If what he said
is true then there's not much use applying to get on Survivor as long as
Lynne is heading up casting.

I found a really interesting interview with her from right before Christmas
2008. In it she claims they lowered the age to 18 because the number of
applications had been dwindling for years and it was the same people
applying over and over. I find it hard to believe if they were getting
10,000 to 15,000 people applying and showing up at casting calls per season
that they couldn't find 16 to 20 people worthy of being on the show. Even
Bob who won Gabon was recruited.

You'll get a kick out of this paragraph from the interview.
Producers get referrals from past cast members and others, but she said, "a
lot of times they're doing favors for other people, and a lot of times it
doesn't work out." However, Spillman said if she finds her cast is "light in
the south, I'll e.mail three southerners in the age group we're looking for"
to see if they know anyone. Beyond that, Spillman said the perception is
that "we go to clubs and look for the hot girl dancing on the bar, [but]
that's so not how we recruit. I think that's the misconception that people
have. We watch these people," she said, and also research them online: "what
are they like, what are their interests," "are they funny"?

I wonder if that southern reference is to particular players we might know?!
I totally don't buy her line about the bars as I'm sure they have recruited
bar tenders, etc. before.

Here's the link to the interview:
http://www.realityblurred.com/realitytv/archives/survivor_samoa/2008_Dec_24_spillman_casting

Brian


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Shawn said:

"that's the part that's crazy. No one should be allowing anyone to cast
people just because they are friends with one of the former players.
They should only be casting based on who will make for the best show.
Anyone not interested in going for that kind of cast should be removed
from the process by Mark Burnett."

Right, Shawn. I'm glad that you focused on the right things...instead of
trying to blast all the talk as 'hooey'.

I always knew that you were a smart guy and an excellent judge of
midwestern comedy. :-)

do...@webtv.net

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May 13, 2010, 7:33:34 AM5/13/10
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All of a sudden...people are attacking Michelle.


About her weather comments...I understand and agree.

There may BE storms...but the CHALLENGES have been held in decent
weather.

In the past...they would get off on showing the downpours and how the
players had to compete in it.

Just a fact...no 'JFK' conspiracy here.

They're not eating rats...that they SHOW.

The big deal about banana etiquette is as controversial as they have
gotten.

I see 'shell's point...they're not shown eating a minnow roasted on a
stick...as they have before.

do...@webtv.net

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About Russell's semen stain on Parv...Brian said:

"But that happened *during* the game right after he performed
cunnilingus on Parv."

I'm not buyin' it Bri.

Parv would never let Russell's cajun super tongue germs touch her 'hey
nanny nanny'.

Touching his wee-wee with a branch until he ejac-ula-tated...is a
different thing.

Again...science prevails.

do...@webtv.net

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Jenn said:

"Bzzzzzt.   The truth is clear to those who pay attention. Danielle's
coy little purr to Russell "Parv and I are closer than you think" hinted
at where the real pre-alliance was. The clips that prove it are so
secret that even MB doesn't know where they are but if you don't tell
anyone, I'll tell you it's on a certain asian server. There is big BIG
money involved. Did you really think those girls were in it for a measly
million?"

I love that Jenn feels free enough to tell us about Parv and Danielle's
hot tribbing session.

I got MY copy...but that was only because I'm close to Wing Hoe, the
Chinese restaurant.

It's a beautiful copy with many extra features.

You can actually do a 'virtual fondle' on the ladies...and as your mouse
(ha...mouse) passes over their bodies...you actually hear them moaning.

It was well worth the $2600.

shawn

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I suspect she's right in that they don't head out to bars just to
recruit people. However it's very true that the casting agents seem to
frequent LA bars and end up recruiting a number of people from those
bars. So they don't head there solely to recruit but it's something
that happens... a lot.

>I wonder if that southern reference is to particular players we might know?!
>I totally don't buy her line about the bars as I'm sure they have recruited
>bar tenders, etc. before.

I'm sure it is.. We know it's not JT as he seems to spend most of his
time with his family as no one has shown up that's a friend of his.
Perhaps most of his friends are too busy to come on the show while
people like Boo don't have those type of friends?

Thanks.

MICHELLE H.

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Yeah, thanks for understanding what I was trying to say! Almost all of
the challenges, have been held in nice, sunny warm weather. The girls
are wearing bikinis on their half-naked bodies, and so they sure aren't
freezing!


Nobody seems to be covered in bug bites, and itching to death. Rupert
who is famous for fishing with his "trusty fishing spear" hasn't even
tried to go fishing once this season. Nobody is beating rats to death to
death with sticks to try to get some food.

MICHELLE H.

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May 13, 2010, 10:23:23 AM5/13/10
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On one of those Google.com searches that I did, I saw something that
said Erika Shay, Lynn Spillman, and Parvarti are all best friends.


So thats a good question that you brought up.


Was Lynn Spillman also involved in this whole mess of letting Parvarti
watch clips of Russell from Survivor #19??

MICHELLE H.

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MICHELLE said:

"Yeah, thanks for understanding what I was trying to say! Almost all of
the challenges, have been held in nice, sunny warm weather. The girls
are wearing bikinis on their half-naked bodies, and so they sure aren't
freezing!"

Fer SURE, hun.

Everybody knows what you mean.

As I said before...maybe every story in these blogs isn't correct in
ever detail...but there's enough to realize that SOMETHING is
happening...even if it's NOT spy stuff.

:-)

Some here were wondering about these things BEFORE these articles
surfaced.

Worry not.

:-)

http://d21c.com/doob/tra.gif

MICHELLE H.

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The only challenge that I can recall that it was raining, was the one
where Dumbass J.T gave the Immunity Idol to Russell. Remember when Colby
was telling Russell to "go to J.T. after the challenge. He has something
for you. Use it TONIGHT. Save yourself, then come join us".


It started to rain and thunderstorm, at the end of that challenge, but I
think that every other challenge has been warm and sunny.


Plus like I said, the girls are walking around in their skimpy bikinis,
or their bra and panties, and none of them seem to be covered in bug
bites!?


Are they giving the contestants "Deep Woods Off" bug repellant now or
something!?

Brian Smith

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"MICHELLE H." <FALCO...@webtv.net> wrote in message
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> The only challenge that I can recall that it was raining, was the one
> where Dumbass J.T gave the Immunity Idol to Russell. Remember when Colby
> was telling Russell to "go to J.T. after the challenge. He has something
> for you. Use it TONIGHT. Save yourself, then come join us".
>
>
> It started to rain and thunderstorm, at the end of that challenge, but I
> think that every other challenge has been warm and sunny.

I don't think that's true. I'm sure it was raining during the water
polo/basketball challenge earlier in the season (the won where Colby won for
the Heroes and grabbed Candice's butt) and probably a few others as well.

> Plus like I said, the girls are walking around in their skimpy bikinis,
> or their bra and panties, and none of them seem to be covered in bug
> bites!?
>
>
> Are they giving the contestants "Deep Woods Off" bug repellant now or
> something!?

They're bitten up as usual but it's no longer a big deal so they don't
really talk about it anymore. The "secret scenes" video clips have shown
some of this and to me it looks just as bad as ever.

Brian


Brian Smith

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***************************

I'm sure Dubya not only knows the location of the server but that he has
copies of the video footage. But this doesn't negate my point about why
Russell went after Danielle. For Russell, the million is as much as he's
going to make off of Survivor.

Brian


jenn

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Brian's point that if Parv had seen Russell's game or any parts of it,
she would have lobbied to boot him out first seems pretty hard to
argue with. And she wouldn't have had to go far to find allies- Boston
Rob would have been the first on board. Early on, Coach would have
done the same.

I didn't believe there was much recruiting going on, but I did click
around in the links provided. It's interesting but not surprising that
they feel they have to bring in a certain number of beautiful people,
certain number of interesting uglies, certain number of people from
each region. It's easy to read too much into the if the show is “light


in the south, I’ll e.mail three southerners in the age group we’re

looking for” comment because we've long heard they hide how many of
the players actually live in Hollywood. Going into the jungle where
you look, feel, and smell your best for 30 days strikes me as a pretty
stupid way to break into pictures, but whatever.

Would Parv seeing clips of Russell before the show be considered game
interference on a par with the quiz show scandals of the 50s?
Doubtful. It's a game for money but it's a reality show, not really a
game show. It would be a scandal to the 10 or 15 Survivor fans who
care, but the world at large would not be too concerned.

shawn

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On Thu, 13 May 2010 16:24:19 -0700 (PDT), jenn
<marinda...@gmail.com> wrote:

>On May 13, 10:23�am, FALCONG...@webtv.net (MICHELLE H.) wrote:
>> On one of those Google.com searches that I did, I saw something that
>> said Erika Shay, Lynn Spillman, and Parvarti are all best friends.
>>
>> So thats a good question that you brought up.
>>
>> Was Lynn Spillman also involved in this whole mess of letting Parvarti
>> watch clips of Russell from Survivor #19?? �
>
>Brian's point that if Parv had seen Russell's game or any parts of it,
>she would have lobbied to boot him out first seems pretty hard to
>argue with. And she wouldn't have had to go far to find allies- Boston
>Rob would have been the first on board. Early on, Coach would have
>done the same.
>
>I didn't believe there was much recruiting going on, but I did click
>around in the links provided. It's interesting but not surprising that
>they feel they have to bring in a certain number of beautiful people,
>certain number of interesting uglies, certain number of people from
>each region. It's easy to read too much into the if the show is �light
>in the south, I�ll e.mail three southerners in the age group we�re
>looking for� comment because we've long heard they hide how many of
>the players actually live in Hollywood. Going into the jungle where
>you look, feel, and smell your best for 30 days strikes me as a pretty
>stupid way to break into pictures, but whatever.

You have to keep in mind that one of the requirements is that every
player needs to be able to take about 50 days off work counting the
pre-game time, game time, travel time back and any recovery time.
Actors (or should I say wannabes) tend to be one group that can easily
take the time off. So it's little wonder that any recruiting in
California is going to pick up a number of want-to-be actors. Plus
there are a number of people that think any face time is a bonus.

>Would Parv seeing clips of Russell before the show be considered game
>interference on a par with the quiz show scandals of the 50s?
>Doubtful. It's a game for money but it's a reality show, not really a
>game show. It would be a scandal to the 10 or 15 Survivor fans who
>care, but the world at large would not be too concerned.

I agree with that.

Brian Smith

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"shawn" <nanof...@gmail.com> wrote in message
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The one thing that none of these reality show producers will do is rig the
game for a certain person. People would stop watching and who would want to
play if you don't have a chance to win?

Brian


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BTW

Parv would rather have him at the end than boot him quickly. She is too
smart to let the best 'goat' ever get away that quickly.

M

Mrs Game

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May 19, 2010, 4:43:47 AM5/19/10
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The truth is as Michelle posted.

Got the e-mails, texts, phone calls to prove it.

Plenty of players want the story broken.

Sugar was right.

Maybe Andy at realityblurred.com needs to get in touch with my husband
if he wants to know the truth. He can also tell him the real reason he
was blackballed and cannot visit the locations nor interview castaways
anymore. It has something to do with his least favorite player.

Hi Ron, Hi Doob!!! Hope you guys are doing good!!!

M

Mrs Game

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May 19, 2010, 5:00:46 AM5/19/10
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As to the casting part...

Russell was friends with Boo who was friends with James and Erica.

Boo tried to get Russell on a previous season and they directed him to
Pirate Master 2, which never happened.

So Boo calls Erica again and says, hey what about my friend Russell I
told you about?

Erica calls and talks to Russell and tells him to fly to L.A. to meet
her and Lynne. She told him if he was not cast, they would pay for all
his expenses.

Erica really liked him, Lynne was not crazy about him but went along
with it.

After 19 began airing, and Russell became the break-out star, guess who
takes credit for casting him? Lynne

Straight from the troll's mouth.

If it's all lies, he lied. But those people do know each other, that is
a gimme.

I think everyone knows the Parv and Erica connection.

Well enter Parv into the picture.

Does anyone find it odd the 1 season Russell watched DVD's of was one of
Parvati's? Not a coincidence

Heck they even were sitting together on the helicopted when it arrived.

Now what happened after that was Russell was smitten and Parv was
strictly playing him.

After 19 started airing and everyone saw how he was, she stopped all
contact.

When they did the Letterman Top 10 list, she not only would not speak to
him, she would not even look at him.

He loved running his mouth so much about this he would leave a movie
where he was sitting with his wife to go to the lobby to talk more about
how great he did on Survivor. Make sure you say Evil Alliance, I like
that, I like that.

Hey, he and Melanie even signed up at SUCKS. My husband warned them both
on the phone, CBS is gonna nail you, seen it before. "HA, my lawyers are
better than theirs!" So he talked them through setting it up. About an
hour later he was calling back, "CBS called, tell Melanie how to delete
all of this." Luckily there is a nice moderator at SUCKS.

You cannot make this stuff up, not when it is RUSSELL HANTZ!!!

M

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Hi Mrs. Game. I hope you and the family are OK.

I have no DOUBT that you know the true story...it's just that others
don't believe these things.

Hey, no big deal.

Be well...

love,

doob

MICHELLE H.

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Yes, "Mrs. Game" is right! Remember how in the 1st episode that Russell
and Parvati were sitting right next to each other on the helicopter!

COINCIDENCE!?

Brian Smith

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"MICHELLE H." <FALCO...@webtv.net> wrote in message
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> Yes, "Mrs. Game" is right! Remember how in the 1st episode that Russell
> and Parvati were sitting right next to each other on the helicopter!
>
> COINCIDENCE!?

The crew tends tell people where to sit in such cases. When they line up for
challenges you might have noticed they tend to be in order from tallest to
shortest. I'm sure the players don't do that randomly each time.

There's a video clip from the Survivor Anniversary Party early this year
where Parv is interviewed and asked if she knew anything about Russell. I
didn't see any sign of her trying to hide anything in her facial
expressions, etc.

Brian


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