Gatecon report
diane
you all about the gorgeous Aloex Zahara (Warren in space race) who was
standing next to us at that point telling us about his new role in
"Kingdom Hospital".
but yes, MS did show up -= and did show us his scar - and did visually
confirm an answer to the question "boxers or briefs" and did stand and
chat to me while we had to pose THREE times for the photo as the film
ran out.
I suppose you'll want to know about the auction where bidding was
encouraged by the actors by means of adding some interesting "extras".
I had both Corin and Dougie Arthurs on my lap at one point... and as for
JR and Colin...... !!!
Will post an edited version later - got to sleep - long flight - meeting
tomorrow all day :-((
Gatecon - the most fun a happily married woman can have while still
remaining faithful <g>
diane
Weyoun the Dancing Borg
and what was the answer?
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Yeah, I guess you're right.
> Top posting can make things confusing.
>> What's wrong with top posting?
diane
>> confirm an answer to the question "boxers or briefs"
>
>
> and what was the answer?
boxer briefs - or brief boxers - whichever you prefer - they were dark
blue / grey / black anyway.
Best gatecon yet (My third) highlights
- Sekh's party on the Weds night pre-con
- the guys from the special effects studio (finally!!)
- Martin Wood
- JR and Colin being total nutcases
- Alex Zahara and his "voices" - that man's vocal range is amazing
- Andrew Jackson who will be on Andromeda with Colin
- Corin's smile
- Teryl and Don's slot telling the tale of how Don got together with his
new wife (in Teryl's kitchen!)
- Michael showing up as the "tba" guest
- the attendees were one of the most friendly and enthusaistic audiences
I've seen, they just took pleasure in everything and everyone.
ttfn
diane
JRD
Why was that? Did they not know he was coming or just wanted to milk it for all
it was worth ? <G>
diane
I heard a number of theories from people attending Gatecon itself
- not sure he would be able to be there so didn't want to get people
there under false pretences
- just wanted to give everyone a massive suprise
- he/they wanted to avoid some of his more enthusiastic fans showing up
after the groping incident in London.
I suspect it was more the first two because he was very relaxed and at
ease with everyone - but who knows, maye they knew the names of the
person(s) concerned and knew they weren't there. Whatever the reason it
was a great way to do it and his presence was much appreciated by
everyone - some of my friends nearly passed out when he appeared - one
was still shaking half an hour later<g>
oh, and I forgot - another highlight - I TOUCHED the Stargate! went on
the studio tour, sat in Gen Hammond's chair, took pics of the Starcharts....
and of course everything else!
diane
Shelly
When Michael Shanks came on stage did some of the crowd boo him? There is
someone out there in internet world saying this, and I thought surely not.
Kiwishell
Megan Grenenger
> confirm an answer to the question "boxers or briefs" and did stand and
> chat to me while we had to pose THREE times for the photo as the film
> ran out.
>
> I
>
>
"Shelly" <rye...@ihug.co.nz> wrote in message
news:bkbd4k$8d5$1...@lust.ihug.co.nz...
> Sounds great Diane. Can I ask you something?
> When Michael Shanks came on stage did some of the crowd boo him? There is
> someone out there in internet world saying this, and I thought surely not.
>
>
> Kiwishell
>
>
Hey Shelly
God I hope that didn't happen - how horrendous.
I always find it amazing in fandom how the expectations set for the Tv/movie
stars are so different to that which we would set ourselves in "real life"?
I mean, I know many people in different occupations who left their job
because it was no longer what they had hoped for, or wasn't challenging them
enough, or they wanted better money. And some of them were lucky enough to
get their old jobs back or a similar role after going off and trying
something new for a while. In some cases the role hadn't actually changed
much but taking the break made the person feel it was fresh and challenging
again; in other cases the "new" role was more to their liking. Certainly, we
never booed them for getting their job back!! It happened too with people
being made redundant/retrenched - a couple were offered jobs back as
contractors to fill a kind of gap.
Anyway - Diane's GateCon report (albeit brief - details! details!) was
brilliant and it made me want to hop a plane to Vancouver!
And if that horrible rumour about booing was true, I daresay there was
enough love in the room to counteract it ;)
:)
Megan
Brisbane, Australia
pettygrew
> In <NxZ9b.1789$I9....@newsfep4-winn.server.ntli.net> Weyoun the Dancing
> Borg wrote:
> >> confirm an answer to the question "boxers or briefs"
> >
> >
> > and what was the answer?
>
>
> boxer briefs - or brief boxers - whichever you prefer - they were dark
> blue / grey / black anyway.
Sorry to correct you. They were white with red lettering.
pettygrew
Bizarro7
enough love in the room to counteract it ;)
:)
Megan<<
From what I've heard, some members of the Shanks-hating "Horsewomen" group were
boasting on a list that when he was announced, they said "About f*cking time"
and got up and walked out. I seriously doubt this behavior was noticed among
the enthusiastic screaming and rushing *into* the ballroom that ensued, among
the vast majority of attendees.
Sorry, I had to laugh when I heard this. I would expect something of this
nature, as last year, the same small group was shouting nasty comments and
booing whenever MS' name was mentioned onstage. These were the same people who
urgently advised the con staff to pack the premesis with security to "watch out
for the SDJ" and the Daniel fans, because they were certain to attack Corim
Nemec and behave badly, when he came to the con.
Obviously, it was a case of projection.
Leah
Shelly
Lord.............There are some very immature people out in this world of
ours isn't there? As you said, their behaviour probably would have gone
unnoticed because of all the cheering etc from the "real" Stargate fans who
appreciate all the actors in the show.
Kiwi Shell
diane
hmm - so who had the dark ones???
so many men, so much underwear....... <g>
diane
diane
> Sounds great Diane. Can I ask you something?
> When Michael Shanks came on stage did some of the crowd boo him?
> There is someone out there in internet world saying this, and I
> thought surely not.
abolutely not - he got a major cheer from everyone there, and at no
point did I hear a rumour that anyone had booed - and believe me the
word on something like that would have gone around pretty quickly. Some
people just seem to enjoy spreading rumours like that. the whole con
was an overwhelmingly positive event and don't let anyone try to
convince you otherwise - Corin also got a massively warm welcome too BTW -
personally I think most people there wanted to have their cake and eat
it - ie keep both characters.
diane
diane
> brilliant and it made me want to hop a plane to Vancouver!
>
> And if that horrible rumour about booing was true, I daresay there was
> enough love in the room to counteract it ;)
>:)
not true IMO Megan - and if there did happen to be one sad solitary anti-
fan who behaved like that they would not have been heard above the
general jubilation at seeing MS - more likely they would have been
lynched actually - and as no lynching occured I assume there was no
booing!
diane
diane
> Wow.........You're kidding right Leah? Is this for reals? Good
> Lord.............There are some very immature people out in this world
> of ours isn't there? As you said, their behaviour probably would have
> gone unnoticed because of all the cheering etc from the "real"
> Stargate fans who appreciate all the actors in the show.
>
please don't believe all you read Shell, there are people around online
who have a very definite "agenda" - whose sole purpose is to spread
rumours and split fandom - what you have read is heresay, I was there
and there was NOTHING negative I heard or saw all convention.
Go over to Gateworld.net and have alook in the forums there at the
Gatecon reports thread - fans of all different preferences just
enthusing about the whole thing, Daniel fans, shippers, Jonasarians -
all of us had a great time.
diane
pettygrew
> > but yes, MS did show up -= and did show us his scar - and did visually
> > confirm an answer to the question "boxers or briefs" and did stand and
> > chat to me while we had to pose THREE times for the photo as the film
> > ran out.
> >
> > I
> >
> >
>
> "Shelly" <rye...@ihug.co.nz> wrote in message
> news:bkbd4k$8d5$1...@lust.ihug.co.nz...
> > Sounds great Diane. Can I ask you something?
> > When Michael Shanks came on stage did some of the crowd boo him? There is
> > someone out there in internet world saying this, and I thought surely not.
> >
> >
> > Kiwishell
If they did, I was sitting in the first row and didn't hear any. As
soon as the audience recognized him, the room lit up with camera
flashes and screams. He smiled, and as he walked up to the front of
the stage, he commented between his teeth "I won't be able to see for
a week."
The shock of seeing him was unbelieveable. When the quilt came down,
he had his back turned towards the audience. It wasn't until he
turned to face us were we able to tell who it was.
pettygrew
JRD
>point did I hear a rumour that anyone had booed - and believe me the
>word on something like that would have gone around pretty quickly. Some
>people just seem to enjoy spreading rumours like that. the whole con
>was an overwhelmingly positive event and don't let anyone try to
>convince you otherwise - Corin also got a massively warm welcome too BTW -
>personally I think most people there wanted to have their cake and eat
>it - ie keep both characters.
Virtually all fans can separate actor from characters, and behave accordingly.
You'll have a few nitwits who can't separate the two, or are are so in lust or
hate the character so much that they're a problem for cons, but that's rare.
While there are some fans who seem to delight in vivisecting actors (Michael
and Corin are the popular targets, and amazingly, Amanda too) on some lists,
most fans are mature enough to realize, hey, this is a business, and shouldn't
take out their feelings on those actors.
I just wish there were more con reports out.
Bizarro7
mailing lists might have been lying to impress her like-minded associates. Good
thought.
Leah
Rob
>
>
> I just wish there were more con reports out.
Obviously:
http://www.gateworld.net/articles/conventions/gatecon2003_02.shtml
However, what I find interesting is the photo caption at the bottom of
that page:
"Will Kawalsky return to SG-1?....."
Didn't realise this was a possibility.
--
Rob
￥喊`昂,父,喊`昂喊`昂,父,喊`昂喊`昂い喊`昂ぃ
JRD
>http://www.gateworld.net/articles/conventions/gatecon2003_02.shtml
Yeah, been there. but last year, there were much bigger fan-written reports out
on lists, etc. They seem mysteriously absent this year, as though people had
nothing to report. Maybe there was no real news.
>However, what I find interesting is the photo caption at the bottom of
>that page:
> "Will Kawalsky return to SG-1?....."
>
>Didn't realise this was a possibility.
Don't think it is. Just a tease used on the photo.
Kelly M
news:20030918074656...@mb-m16.aol.com:
Leah, you wouldn't know, because you weren't there.
No-one got up and left when MS came onto the stage, and no-one booed at
him. The room was *very* loud, and full of cheering from a lot of
people, but there were no boos.
In fact, several of us HW had pictures taken with him.
What list was this 'boasting' on? I'm really *really* curious to know.
Don't remember a event of people booing last year, either, when MS' name
was mentioned on the stage. Is your memory intact? Or are you imagining
things again?
FYI, the con people weren't told by anyone last year who they needed to
'watch out for'. They can read, and they do listen to what to what the
studio says, and can actually think for themselves. The studio didn't
need anyone to tell them, either...all they had to do was read their
mail.
Your habit of bringing the SJHW up and telling everyone that they (we)
are responsible to all the hate and woes of the fandom (on and offline)
is not only irresponsible and inaccurate, it is also a defamation of
character. We *do* *not* *hate* MS.
As for the problems that (thankfully) did not materialize being a case of
projection, you're criticizing the studio that produces the show that you
are (assumedly) a fan of.
Get your facts straight.
Kelly M
SJHW Famine
aka "The Smartass in the Back of the Room"
diane
>
<snipping of not very important stuff>
> Leah, you wouldn't know, because you weren't there.
>
> No-one got up and left when MS came onto the stage, and no-one booed
> at him. The room was *very* loud, and full of cheering from a lot of
> people, but there were no boos.
>
> In fact, several of us HW had pictures taken with him.
<snip good stuff>
and also rushed to stand in the aisles to *take* pictures of him IIRC
<G>
>
> Get your facts straight.
>
not very likely to happen IMO
I think most people in the newsgroup have seen enough of Leah's posts to
know "where she's coming from" Kelly. I suspect many people have (like
me) killfiled her long ago and the rest are well able to make up their
own minds about what she says. There is an element in fandom that seems
to delight in trying to divide people - to find negativity, to spread
nasty rumours - sometimes about other fans, other times about the actors
and their private lives. It's boring and unpleasant but those people's
real lives must be very empty if they need to create such an exotic
fantasy one.
Simple fact is that I have not seen a single negative comment about the
con. anywhere on line from anyone who was *there* - all sections of
fandom were there, and all were very happy - and all got along very well.
Shippers teased Daniel fans and vice versa, Jonasarians and Daniel fans
were even found late at night together happily drinking and laughing in
room parties. No-one will convince me that this was not the best SG1
con *ever* - because, unlike Leah, you and I were there to witness it.
Anyway - did you get home OK? any con crud? lots of people seem to
have gone down with something, some are still stranded in Vancouver too
ill to fly home :-((
diane
Kelly M
news:20030922013...@news.btinternet.com:
> No-one will convince me that this was not the best SG1
> con *ever* - because, unlike Leah, you and I were there to witness it.
>
> Anyway - did you get home OK? any con crud? lots of people seem to
> have gone down with something, some are still stranded in Vancouver too
> ill to fly home :-((
>
> diane
>
Got home okay....man, my legs were tired from standing all weekend! BUT!
I would do it all again in a second *g* I've been having sneeze attacks
all week, but I think it's more from 'welcome to fall' allergies rather
than con crud. We did have one of the HW come down with a very bad
cold, but she had a heck of a weather shock coming to Vancouver from
Hawaii, so I think she had a climate reaction.
People are still stuck there? Wow! This is the first I've heard of it!
I think this con was the most relaxing and laid-back of all four. The C4
were even awake and smiling on Monday! Always a very good sign. *g*
Can't wait till next year -- and I'll be bringing my whipe and chair
again, methinks ;-)
ttyl,
Kelly M
SJHW Famine
aka 'The Smartass in the Back'
JRD
>con
Fact is, peopel have posted so little about the con it's hard to tell if
anything even happened there. Whatever happened to people telling everyone what
jokes the actors told, if anything funny happened.
I'd love to see something more than "I had fun at the con" <G>
pettygrew
> biza...@aol.com (Bizarro7) wrote in
> news:20030918074656...@mb-m16.aol.com:
>
> >>>And if that horrible rumour about booing was true, I daresay there
> >>>was
> enough love in the room to counteract it ;)
> >:)
> > Megan<<
> >
> 'watch out for'. They can read, and they do listen to what to what the
> studio says, and can actually think for themselves. The studio didn't
> need anyone to tell them, either...all they had to do was read their
> mail.
I can vouch on this as I worked as a con volunteer last year for the
Q&As and at no time were any names or group names mentioned. Enough
opinions were voiced on the bboards where having security on stand-by
didn't hurt.
There are some people in this fandom who need to grow up in their
behavior.
pettygrew
Shelly
want to divide us all etc. I mean, my favourite SG1 character is Daniel, and
I adore Michael Shanks, but I am also a SG1 fan, and I like
RDA,AT,CJ,DSD,TR,CC etc and their characters on the show.
I thought that was what Stargate SG1 fans were all about.
Well so long as whoever was there at Gatecon, had a wonderful time and all
the actors did as well :)
Cheers......Kiwishell
Bizarro7
> group were boasting on a list that when he was announced, they said
> "About f*cking time" and got up and walked out. I seriously doubt this
> behavior was noticed among the enthusiastic screaming and rushing
> *into* the ballroom that ensued, among the vast majority of attendees.
>
> Sorry, I had to laugh when I heard this. I would expect something of
> this nature, as last year, the same small group was shouting nasty
> comments and booing whenever MS' name was mentioned onstage. These
> were the same people who urgently advised the con staff to pack the
> premesis with security to "watch out for the SDJ" and the Daniel fans,
> because they were certain to attack Corim Nemec and behave badly, when
> he came to the con.
>
> Obviously, it was a case of projection.
>
> Leah<<
>
>Leah, you wouldn't know, because you weren't there.
No-one got up and left when MS came onto the stage, and no-one booed at
him. The room was *very* loud, and full of cheering from a lot of
people, but there were no boos.
In fact, several of us HW had pictures taken with him.
What list was this 'boasting' on? I'm really *really* curious to know.<<
Try the Colin Cunningham list. I especially like the HW who left to stand in
line for an upcoming autograph instead, and everyone kept spotting her and
excitedly telling her if she knew who was in the auditorium at the moment, as
they rushed to see.
>>Don't remember a event of people booing last year, either, when MS' name
was mentioned on the stage. Is your memory intact? Or are you imagining
things again?<<
Sorry, revisionist history won't help you, here. We've got some of this on
audio tape, as several of the nasties were sitting in the row right behind us.
I can throw an accusation of lying as easily as you.
>>FYI, the con people weren't told by anyone last year who they needed to
'watch out for'.<<
That's *really* funny, because we actually had friendly conversations with some
of them and they *told* us that they had these prior warnings. In addition, one
member of the SDJ is on the main convention staff, and told us otherwise,
before the convention.
>>They can read, and they do listen to what to what the
studio says, and can actually think for themselves. The studio didn't
need anyone to tell them, either...all they had to do was read their
mail.<<
So letters saying "Bring back Daniel Jackson" were interpreted as "We will kill
your guest actors?" Wow, that's a pretty interesting piece of interpretive
reading.
>Your habit of bringing the SJHW up and telling everyone that they (we)
are responsible to all the hate and woes of the fandom (on and offline)
is not only irresponsible and inaccurate, it is also a defamation of
character. We *do* *not* *hate* MS.<
Riiiiiiight. I was just listening to Seldear and Allie Snow singing his
praises, the other day.
>As for the problems that (thankfully) did not materialize being a case of
projection, you're criticizing the studio that produces the show that you
are (assumedly) a fan of.<
Oh, you mean like writing to demand more Ship? I found it hysterical how fast
"Trust the Powers That Be" went out the window, when the announcements about
MS's return went out.
But then, we imagined the whole fan fracas over the past couple of years,
didn't we? It's all in our collective imaginations. Much of it never occurred
on alt.tv.stargate-sg-1, but it's still there in virtually every other fan
forum for all to see.
But I hardly mind, since things have developed very nicely, in the end.
Leah
JRD
>Gatecon reports thread - fans of all different preferences just
>enthusing about the whole thing, Daniel fans, shippers, Jonasarians -
>all of us had a great time.
Okay, I do need to disagree. Everybody in fandom tends to paint a favorite
forum in a good light, or an opposing one in a bad light. THere is no forum
that's perfect. Gateworld has it's share of arguments and flamewars just as OS
does (or any list). The most volatile topics seem to be ship or Daniel Jackson.
I've seen threads taken down on GW due to flaming, then come back up minus a
lot of nasty posts. Both GW and OS have had threads that the moderators should
have moderated a lot earlier, or just plain old moderated. Neither is perfect.
There are a few fans (a handful out of all of fandom) who continue to bicker
and fight amongst each other over old news. How many times can a fan keep after
the old Save Daniel Jackson campaign? It's done and over. Let's move on. How
many times can people keep saying Jonas sucks? Ditto.
someone said:
/> FYI, the con people weren't told by anyone last year who they needed to
> 'watch out for'. They can read, and they do listen to what to what the
> studio says, and can actually think for themselves. The studio didn't
> need anyone to tell them, either...all they had to do was read their
> mail./
Yes, tptb can think for themselves, but there was at least one fan (named
ommitted to protect the guilty) who actually kept posting how much of a menace
the daniel jackson fans were and how security was being hired because of them.
It was ridiculous. But then some fans need to get a life ;)
But anyway, is anybody going to write a con report where those who did not go
can read about what the actor said. They did say something at their talks,
right? it wasn't just all boxers/briefs questions? ;)
E
Mls0055
<spamnotme@dakevb_spamnot.fsnet.co.uk> writes:
Weyoun the
>>> Dancing Borg wrote:
>>> >> confirm an answer to the question "boxers or briefs"
>>> >
>>> >
>>> > and what was the answer?
>>>
>>>
>>> boxer briefs - or brief boxers - whichever you prefer - they were
>>> dark blue / grey / black anyway.
>>
>>
>> Sorry to correct you. They were white with red lettering.
>
>hmm - so who had the dark ones???
>
>so many men, so much underwear....... <g>
That line has got to be the Gatecon motto!
Okay, am I the only one here who is not getting it? All this talk about
MS and his undies is all fine and dandy but we're missing the real point here.
Who is MS? Oh yeah, right he's the actor who plays that Daniel who was
cruel and nasty to COL. MAKEPEACE when the poor guy was promoted
to SG-1
I mean, ex-cuse me and FCOL, and any other suitable Jackisms, but
Col. Makepeace was there and I wasn't <sob>
What about him? Boxers or briefs? Tell me please. I need details, FCOL!
Mandi <veg>
Jen
> Try the Colin Cunningham list. I especially like the HW who left to stand
in
> line for an upcoming autograph instead, and everyone kept spotting her and
> excitedly telling her if she knew who was in the auditorium at the moment,
as
> they rushed to see.
Ah yes - how dare someone go for an autograph rather than sit for a panel.
As I recall, this happens all the time and isn't particular to MS.
> Sorry, revisionist history won't help you, here. We've got some of this on
> audio tape, as several of the nasties were sitting in the row right behind
us.
> I can throw an accusation of lying as easily as you.
I thought people weren't allowed to tape things in the GC auditorium,
because it was against their rules?
>
> >>They can read, and they do listen to what to what the
> studio says, and can actually think for themselves. The studio didn't
> need anyone to tell them, either...all they had to do was read their
> mail.<<
>
> So letters saying "Bring back Daniel Jackson" were interpreted as "We will
kill
> your guest actors?" Wow, that's a pretty interesting piece of interpretive
> reading.
I suppose you'd have to take that up with the studio.
>
> >Your habit of bringing the SJHW up and telling everyone that they (we)
> are responsible to all the hate and woes of the fandom (on and offline)
> is not only irresponsible and inaccurate, it is also a defamation of
> character. We *do* *not* *hate* MS.<
>
> Riiiiiiight. I was just listening to Seldear and Allie Snow singing his
> praises, the other day.
Just because someone doesn't praise an actor for everything he or she does,
doesn't lead to the conclusion that they must "hate" that actor. Hatred is
a pretty strong word. Disliking someone because of his acting abilities or
his public persona (because face it, *none* of the fans know his private
persona) doesn't equate to hating him. Besides, even if Seldear and Alli
*did* hate MS - it's their opinion and their right to do so. Deal with it.
The HW as a group do not hate MS and have said so time and time again.
>
> >As for the problems that (thankfully) did not materialize being a case of
> projection, you're criticizing the studio that produces the show that you
> are (assumedly) a fan of.<
>
> Oh, you mean like writing to demand more Ship? I found it hysterical how
fast
> "Trust the Powers That Be" went out the window, when the announcements
about
> MS's return went out.
>
I remember feeling a bit betrayed, yes. What of it? After some reflection
and thought, I calmed down and went right back to the idea that they've
always given a good show and had faith that they will continue to do so. I
had an irrational emotion, as humans tend to do. You're going to sit there
and gloat "na, na" in my face because of it?
You know, I haven't written *one* letter, not for MS, not for ship, not for
anything - because I *do* trust TPTB, because it's not my show and not my
place to make demands for anything. If they stop delivering a decent show,
I'll change the channel. Sorry if you can't deal with it, but that's your
problem, not mine.
> But then, we imagined the whole fan fracas over the past couple of years,
> didn't we? It's all in our collective imaginations. Much of it never
occurred
> on alt.tv.stargate-sg-1, but it's still there in virtually every other fan
> forum for all to see.
>
The whole fan fracas existed because of many, many sides and many, many
fans. Including you. There is plenty of blame to go around, but some of us
have moved on and accepted things. Watching you bring in your
"shanks-hating HW" and second-hand accusations, it appears that you have
not.
> But I hardly mind, since things have developed very nicely, in the end.
So why bring it up if you don't mind? Why make unnecessary and untrue
statements when they aren't relevant except to inflame other fans? Why does
it seem to bother you so much that not everyone loves MS or Daniel?
As to how things have developed, that's your opinion and you are welcome to
it. Mine differs greatly.
Jen
Kelly M
biza...@aol.com (Bizarro7) wrote in
news:20030922082306...@mb-m04.aol.com:
> No-one got up and left when MS came onto the stage, and no-one booed
> at him. The room was *very* loud, and full of cheering from a lot of
> people, but there were no boos.
>
> In fact, several of us HW had pictures taken with him.
>
> What list was this 'boasting' on? I'm really *really* curious to
> know.<<
>
> Try the Colin Cunningham list. I especially like the HW who left to
> stand in line for an upcoming autograph instead, and everyone kept
> spotting her and excitedly telling her if she knew who was in the
> auditorium at the moment, as they rushed to see.
Not on the CC list. In fact, I'm fairly certain that if any of the HW
*had* posted on the CC list, I would have heard about it. It's also
interesting to note that the HW in question (who left 5 minutes before the
end of the panel so as to get in line for the photos, and not at the
beginning of the panel as you claimed in your last post) 1. didn't need to
tell anyone who was in the auditorium, and 2. were fairly far back in the
preliminatry line, as many MANY other people had also rushed out prior to
the end of the panel to get a good spot in line. *gasp* And they weren't
HW! The horror!!!!!
>
>>>Don't remember a event of people booing last year, either, when MS'
>>>name
> was mentioned on the stage. Is your memory intact? Or are you
> imagining things again?<<
>
> Sorry, revisionist history won't help you, here. We've got some of
> this on audio tape, as several of the nasties were sitting in the row
> right behind us. I can throw an accusation of lying as easily as you.
I'm not lying. Are you insinuating that I am? That's interesting. Would
you please digitize the booing? I'd like to hear it?
>
>>>FYI, the con people weren't told by anyone last year who they needed
>>>to
> 'watch out for'.<<
>
> That's *really* funny, because we actually had friendly conversations
> with some of them and they *told* us that they had these prior
> warnings. In addition, one member of the SDJ is on the main convention
> staff, and told us otherwise, before the convention.
Your SDJ person on the con staff (that would be Rowan) was informed about
oh, March of last year that there were several member of the production
crew and cast who were very leery of coming to Gatecon 2002 based on the
mail they had been receiving at the studio. That comment came directly
from Joseph Mallozzi. Feel free to ask him.
>
>>>They can read, and they do listen to what to what the
> studio says, and can actually think for themselves. The studio didn't
> need anyone to tell them, either...all they had to do was read their
> mail.<<
>
> So letters saying "Bring back Daniel Jackson" were interpreted as "We
> will kill your guest actors?" Wow, that's a pretty interesting piece
> of interpretive reading.
You're putting words into my mouth again. Tsk tsk.
>
>>Your habit of bringing the SJHW up and telling everyone that they (we)
> are responsible to all the hate and woes of the fandom (on and
> offline) is not only irresponsible and inaccurate, it is also a
> defamation of character. We *do* *not* *hate* MS.<
>
> Riiiiiiight. I was just listening to Seldear and Allie Snow singing
> his praises, the other day.
And where, pray tell, was this offensive conversation?
>
>>As for the problems that (thankfully) did not materialize being a case
>>of
> projection, you're criticizing the studio that produces the show that
> you are (assumedly) a fan of.<
>
> Oh, you mean like writing to demand more Ship? I found it hysterical
> how fast "Trust the Powers That Be" went out the window, when the
> announcements about MS's return went out.
Oh, you mean like writing and telling the prod staff that they are morons?
That didn't happen after we heard that MS was returning. Show me where it
did.
>
> But then, we imagined the whole fan fracas over the past couple of
> years, didn't we? It's all in our collective imaginations. Much of it
> never occurred on alt.tv.stargate-sg-1, but it's still there in
> virtually every other fan forum for all to see.
>
> But I hardly mind, since things have developed very nicely, in the
> end.
>
> Leah
>
I didn't imagine being called a slut and a liar, and a Daniel/MS hater. I
didn't imagine that the SDJ infiltrated every list they could, and cried
*foul* when the member of that list didn't drop everything and pledge
allegiance to the cause of 'saving the show -- bring back our God Daniel
Jackson'. I didn't imagine being blamed for things I never even dreamed of
doing, on or offline.
Your utter conviction that the HW all despise MS is starting to *really*
grate on my nerves, considering that it's an untruth. Understand that
someone can be critical of someone else and not hate them. Or is
everything so black and white to you?
Your opinion is that things delevoped quite nicely. You got your 'one and
only' back. Congrats! Just don't be pointing the finger at me and mine
when your beloved character doesn't do exactly what you want him to do, and
takes the rest of the wonderful ensemble cast that we've all watched for 7
years down into the drain with him.
And that, my *dear*, is my opinion. Stick that in your pipe and smoke it.
Kelly M
SJHW Famine
aka 'The Smartass in the Back of the Room'
diane
> Let's do some picking apart, shall we?
just killfile her Kelly, very few people on here respond to her posts
anyway after her Trolling behaviour last year.
>>>Your habit of bringing the SJHW up and telling everyone that they (we)
>> are responsible to all the hate and woes of the fandom (on and
>> offline) is not only irresponsible and inaccurate, it is also a
>> defamation of character. We *do* *not* *hate* MS.<
lol.
Kelly - you *really* should understand by now that you can only have
friends in fandom that agree with *everything* you believe - that like
the characters you like - that have the same obsessions as you. So if
Sel and Allie say something then you must, by definition agree with them.
You have no powers of independent thought, you must have no differences
of opinion however slight because then how can you still be friends with
them????
The fact that at the con there were shippers and Daniel fans who had fun
together and forged new friendships / renewed old ones is not something
that makes sense within some sections of fandom. the fact that these
friends can disagree about who are the fabulous actors and what are the
best plot lines is beyond their experience. I met a lovely woman at the
con who *loves* the Sam / Jack ship but whose favourite character is
Daniel and was practically swooning when MS appeared on stage (and was
literally shaking after the photo with him<g>). She would have been
gobsmacked to be told that she was not allowed to hold such
contradictory "likes". that's what normal healthy fandom is about - and
that is what Gatecon was about, not the kind of fanwars that Leah is
trying to stir up again. IMO it is simply sticking in her throat that it
was such a wonderful experience for *all* fans and that there were no
divisions.
diane
diane
OK - I have to confess, lots of lovely male bodies - but only one of
them actually made my stomach lurch (with pleasure that is<g>) and it
was your lovely Colonel Makepeace - the man was a walking hunk of
testosterone and just exuded sex appeal. I chatted quite coherently to
all of the other guests but Steve just had me tongue tied - happy now?
<g> When the others in the panel with him were really getting into the
boxers or brief issue (Dougie and David - Heru'ur and Anubis) he jsut
said in that deep sexy voice - "guys, please, I'm a *MARINE*" he
didn't need to say much to have an impact.....
diane
diane
I went to look for the really offensive anti-MS post by one of the nasty
SJHW in the CC Fans yahoo group. I couldn't understand how I could have
missed it as I belong to that group and read it recently...
http://groups.yahoo.com/group/ColinCunninghamFans
message 4897 - but only look if you've got a strong stomach <g>
diane :-)
kismatt
news:20030922224...@news.btinternet.com:
> http://groups.yahoo.com/group/ColinCunninghamFans
Oops...not a member! Restricted archives *g*
diane
> diane <spamnotme@dakevb_spamnot.fsnet.co.uk> wrote in
> news:20030922224...@news.btinternet.com:
>
>> http://groups.yahoo.com/group/ColinCunninghamFans
>
> Oops...not a member! Restricted archives *g*
probably just as well - there are actually a couple of others saying
that MS wasn't the highlight of *their* con either - one would have
preferred to see Amanda and the other RDA (I know at least one other
person who would have preferred Chris Judge!). It shouldn't be allowed,
really it shouldn't... don't they KNOW who is the heart and soul of the
show? And they call themselves fans! All groups that do not formally
acknowledge TWTID should be closed down as a personal affront to Those
Who Would Protect (TWWP) TWTID - henceforth known as the "twerps".
diane <who still likes Daniel and thinks MS is a sweetie and has the
Daniel quotes quilt stashed in her wardrobe along with the Jonas shirt>
Kelly M
news:20030922222...@news.btinternet.com:
> Kelly - you *really* should understand by now that you can only have
> friends in fandom that agree with *everything* you believe - that like
> the characters you like - that have the same obsessions as you. So if
> Sel and Allie say something then you must, by definition agree with
> them. You have no powers of independent thought, you must have no
> differences of opinion however slight because then how can you still
> be friends with them????
*snort*
Oh, and I find myself corrected....the two HW who were supposed to have
left the panel early *didn't*...However, they *were* in the first group
of numbers (101-150) for the photos...and there were about 30 people
ahead of them in line.
So....whoever told you that any of the HW left the panel early was
mistaken. Not one of us left the room...unless, of course, you count
*me*, because I was in and out of the room at the back door....because I
was on volunteer duty. Bad me.
Sel and Alli and the rest of us don't share a brain...altho, sometimes it
feels like it! *g*
Did you have fun under that quilt with JR, Diane? *wink* I thought the
wall was holding you up for a while there!!!
Jen
> http://groups.yahoo.com/group/ColinCunninghamFans
>
> message 4897 - but only look if you've got a strong stomach <g>
>
> diane :-)
LOL. Thanks for the giggle :)
Jen
Jen
The most hysterical part about that is that poster *isn't* a HW.
Apparently everyone who isn't a shanks fan must be a nasty HW.
lmao
Jen
pettygrew
> Sorry, revisionist history won't help you, here. We've got some of this on
> audio tape, as several of the nasties were sitting in the row right behind us.
> I can throw an accusation of lying as easily as you.
>
> >>FYI, the con people weren't told by anyone last year who they needed to
> 'watch out for'.<<
>
> That's *really* funny, because we actually had friendly conversations with some
> of them and they *told* us that they had these prior warnings. In addition, one
> member of the SDJ is on the main convention staff, and told us otherwise,
> before the convention.
This person probably didn't worked in the auditorium.
If you did an audio tape, how can you compare what a few people did to
the audience as a whole?
> So letters saying "Bring back Daniel Jackson" were interpreted as "We will kill
> your guest actors?" Wow, that's a pretty interesting piece of interpretive
> reading.
How did kill come into this? That's your speculation. What proof do
you have of anyone even saying such a thing?
> But I hardly mind, since things have developed very nicely, in the end.
A lot of hurt feelings I would say.
pettygrew
Mls0055
<spamnotme@dakevb_spamnot.fsnet.co.uk> writes:
>OK - I have to confess, lots of lovely male bodies - but only one of
>them actually made my stomach lurch (with pleasure that is<g>) and it
>was your lovely Colonel Makepeace - the man was a walking hunk of
>testosterone and just exuded sex appeal.
Really? It must be the baldness. I noticed from a photo of him thaken at
Gatecon that he's lost more hair since his time on the show. It was a
good photo and I thought he looked great.
> I chatted quite coherently to
>all of the other guests but Steve just had me tongue tied - happy now?
><g>
Happy isn't the word I'd use, I missed him <sobs uncontrollably> but at
least someone here else appreciates him now, and it was good of you to
tell me about meeting him. Thank you.
> he jsut
>said in that deep sexy voice - "guys, please, I'm a *MARINE*" he
>didn't need to say much to have an impact.....
::THUD::
Okay, I'll just go and die now.
>diane
Thanks for sharing that with me, wish I'd been there this year.
Cheers
Mandi :-)
diane
<snip>
>::THUD::
>
> Okay, I'll just go and die now.
>
>>diane
>
> Thanks for sharing that with me, wish I'd been there this year.
should I mention the photo I had taken with him too... or would that be
rubbing salt in the wound?
diane :-)
diane
I thought HW were a secret underground sect whose public identities were
rarely revealed - a bit like MI5? I think you'd probably agree that
it's safest for Leah to assume that *everyone* is a secret HW - even
those amongst her own group who oppose them - because, as she so well
knows, they are so sneaky they are probably engaged in counter espionage
anyway.
diane;-)
diane
><snip>
>
> Did you have fun under that quilt with JR, Diane? *wink* I thought
> the wall was holding you up for a while there!!!
>
oh it was *great* fun - if only I could remember all of it <g>
diane
Bizarro7
a supposed non-issue! And once again, I spell it out; kill-file me if that's
your inclination; it matters not one iota to me whether or not you read my
messages.
Yes, please, by all means go on proclaiming to one and all that the entire
ruckus of the past couple of years was purely in my imagination; that the SDJ
and other Daniel fans invented the entire opposition. There was never anything
invented, said or done in online fandom, anywhere against him. Anyone who every
heard such a thing was hallucinating. There are no live journals out there
where MS is attacked; there were never any forum or mailing list battles, and
if they were, they were solely precipitated by insane Daniel fans. And anything
such fans say is a lie.
Thank you for proving my point (and providing much amusement along the way).
Leah
Eva
news:3f6fc62c$0$2335$c3e...@news.astraweb.com...
Hmm, do I really absolutely *have* to be a Horse Woman, since I've never
ridden a horse in my life and would probably be scared to do so. Then
again, if Jack asked me to go horse riding with him, instead of fishing, I
certainly wouldn't say no. Of course, I'd be safe since there wouldn't be a
horse in sight there... <g> CONNIE!!! Does Jack like horses??
Diane, do you think Leah would respond to our specialised therapy methods or
is she beyond help? I guess giving her a free session with Jack wouldn't
work for her either, would it? Oh well.
Anyway, this is a fun thread, keep going, girls, this brings back so many
fond memories. <g>
> lmao
Eva"so am I, so am I..." :-)
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Jen
"Bizarro7" <biza...@aol.com> wrote in message
news:20030923075350...@mb-m21.aol.com...
> This is all utterl delightful. Once again, so much vitriol and revisionism
over
> a supposed non-issue!
First off - breathe. No one has been vitriolic here, relax.
> Yes, please, by all means go on proclaiming to one and all that the entire
> ruckus of the past couple of years was purely in my imagination; that the
SDJ
> and other Daniel fans invented the entire opposition.
I don't believe anyone said anything about the last few years - you're the
one who started making flying accusations - everyone else was just enjoying
a nice gatecon thread. BTW - if you want to be all technical about it, the
SDJ *did* create an "opposition" because they were the ones who started
telling the rest of us that the show would suck eggs without Daniel/MS.
Obviously telling the rest of the fans what they should believe or like is
going to create opposition. The SDJ should at least take some
responsibility for it, but I doubt they'd admit that.
There was never anything
> invented, said or done in online fandom, anywhere against him. Anyone who
every
> heard such a thing was hallucinating. There are no live journals out there
> where MS is attacked; there were never any forum or mailing list battles,
and
> if they were, they were solely precipitated by insane Daniel fans.
Hatred and dislike of an actor are two different things. Criticizing his
public persona or acting abilities comes with the whole "fame" deal - so I'm
not sure why you'd be surprised that there are people who don't worship the
man. It's their right, just as it is your right to criticise Jonas or CN
or Sam or AT or any actor that walks across the screen. Why can you not
accept that other people don't think the way that you do? Why do you care
so much about what is said about this one actor? It's not healthy.
>And anything
> such fans say is a lie.
Not necessarily, but when you start making accusations about fan behavior
that did or didn't happen, you'd better know what you're talking about.
Since you weren't there, and the *proof* you provided about the mailing
lists was faulty - how can you expect anyone to believe you? It's either
that or you don't care what's true or not and have decided to rail against
the HW whenever you get the chance. Either way, I think I'll take your
advice and kilfile you now that I've learned how. I found that avoiding the
SDJ haunts has made my fandom experience much more enjoyable. Just my
opinion....
Jen
diane
> "Jen" <jhe...@nospam.lycos.com> wrote in message
> news:3f6fc62c$0$2335$c3e...@news.astraweb.com...
>>
>> > I went to look for the really offensive anti-MS post by one of the
>> > nasty SJHW in the CC Fans yahoo group. I couldn't understand how I
>> > could have missed it as I belong to that group and read it recently...
>> >
>> > http://groups.yahoo.com/group/ColinCunninghamFans
>> >
>> > message 4897 - but only look if you've got a strong stomach <g>
>> >
>> > diane :-)
>>
>> The most hysterical part about that is that poster *isn't* a HW.
>>
>> Apparently everyone who isn't a shanks fan must be a nasty HW.
>
> Hmm, do I really absolutely *have* to be a Horse Woman, since I've
> never ridden a horse in my life and would probably be scared to do so.
> Then again, if Jack asked me to go horse riding with him, instead of
> fishing, I certainly wouldn't say no. Of course, I'd be safe since
> there wouldn't be a horse in sight there... <g> CONNIE!!! Does Jack
> like horses??
Well the one McGyver ep I saw a bit of had RDA on a horse being
airlifted up in a helicopter - so RDA can ride, Jack is from Minesota,
so I would guess that yes, Jack can ride horses. Anyway, Lisa could
give yuou lessons - she knows which end gets the food and which end
kicks - either that or we hire Anthony Stewart Head to do it <sigh>
Lisa could have super advanced classes, I could have the refresher
course and you could do beginners.... I *like* that idea! he must be
able to ride surely? - his partner is a horse whisperer.......
>
> Diane, do you think Leah would respond to our specialised therapy
> methods or is she beyond help? I guess giving her a free session with
> Jack wouldn't work for her either, would it? Oh well.
>
nope I doubt it, I think it takes cold turkey from SG1 land and a hefty
dose of reality to break addictive behaviour patterns.
> Anyway, this is a fun thread, keep going, girls, this brings back so
> many fond memories. <g>
don't you want to hear about Corin sitting on my lap? or did I aleady
mention that? <g> or JR and I under the quilt? or the time Dougie Arthur
entwined himself with me to sing "happy birthday"? - or being sung to by
Jay Acavone? or having a glass of wine too many at the wrap party and
sleeping through the fire alarm which was set off on the floor above me?
or Teryl telling me she loved my hair and was seriously thinking of
doing the same with hers (length wise it's now more Jack than Sam <g> )
or JR and Colin snogging on stage to up the bids for the charity auction?
or the *boys* and the lipstick kisses? or Martin Wood's wonderful smile?
or the panel with the special effects studio guys?
did I mention we all had FUN!???
diane
Jen
>
> nope I doubt it, I think it takes cold turkey from SG1 land and a hefty
> dose of reality to break addictive behaviour patterns.
I'm addicted to Jack - but then, a good therapy hour of Jack probably
couldn't cure that, eh? I'm willing to try ;)
>
> don't you want to hear about Corin sitting on my lap?
Yes please!!!
or did I aleady
> mention that? <g> or JR and I under the quilt? or the time Dougie Arthur
> entwined himself with me to sing "happy birthday"? - or being sung to by
> Jay Acavone? or having a glass of wine too many at the wrap party and
> sleeping through the fire alarm which was set off on the floor above me?
> or Teryl telling me she loved my hair and was seriously thinking of
> doing the same with hers (length wise it's now more Jack than Sam <g> )
> or JR and Colin snogging on stage to up the bids for the charity auction?
> or the *boys* and the lipstick kisses? or Martin Wood's wonderful smile?
> or the panel with the special effects studio guys?
>
> did I mention we all had FUN!???
Yes, please, again!
It does sound like it was more fun this year than last. I haven't heard of
any line problems (other than them being long) and that all the actors
stayed to make sure everyone got their photos and autos.
Jen
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diane
>
>>
>> nope I doubt it, I think it takes cold turkey from SG1 land and a
>> hefty dose of reality to break addictive behaviour patterns.
>
> I'm addicted to Jack - but then, a good therapy hour of Jack probably
> couldn't cure that, eh? I'm willing to try ;)
now in your case I would suggest aversion thereapy - you just get him
24hrs a day until you get sick of him <g>
>> don't you want to hear about Corin sitting on my lap?
>
> Yes please!!!
LOL - not sure whether it was because I reminded him of his mother - and
he could see I had a sturdy enough frame to take it. It was in the
auction for one of his "Jonas" team shirts - yes I got it! it will be
very useful when trying to fight my way through the thorns to pick fruit
next year, good strong stuff.
<snip>
>
> It does sound like it was more fun this year than last. I haven't
> heard of any line problems (other than them being long) and that all
> the actors stayed to make sure everyone got their photos and autos.
the thing I heard said more than anything else was that the "old timers"
actually didn't much care who was up there on stage as most of us were
there to have a holiday with friends - there were 38 "Gategoers" on my
flight out from the UK, we met up at the airport, chatted on the flight,
and put faces to names we knew online. There were a whole load of trips
and activities planned for the few days *before* the con started - so
people got to know each other and were well integrated as a group before
Friday. At the start of the con Alan got various groups of people to
stand up - including anyone who was there for the first time and didn't
know anyone else - to make sure everyone knew who might be shy / unsure /
alone.
Elyse has commented on the lack of con reports - I think that's because
for many of us (a) it's our holiday - we're not there as reporters (b)
most of our memories are of stuff that is not "major breaking news" but
of jsut having fun with friends. (c) there were loads of new faces this
year -= more newbies than "old timers" so maybe all the usual report
writers just weren't there....
diane
kismatt
news:20030924104...@news.btinternet.com:
>>> nope I doubt it, I think it takes cold turkey from SG1 land and a
>>> hefty dose of reality to break addictive behaviour patterns.
>>
>> I'm addicted to Jack - but then, a good therapy hour of Jack probably
>> couldn't cure that, eh? I'm willing to try ;)
>
> now in your case I would suggest aversion thereapy - you just get him
> 24hrs a day until you get sick of him <g>
LOL Sign me up for this!!!!! whooohooooo! Jen! You have to share!
How many days till GC2004??
Susan
"kismatt" <i-...@in-orbit.com> wrote in message
news:Xns94005352BD3...@192.168.1.100...
> diane <spamnotme@dakevb_spamnot.fsnet.co.uk> wrote in
> news:20030924104...@news.btinternet.com:
> >
> > 24hrs a day until you get sick of him <g>
>
> LOL Sign me up for this!!!!! whooohooooo! Jen! You have to share!
>
> How many days till GC2004??
>
> Kelly M
> SJHW Famine
> aka 'The Smartass in the Back of the Room'
Now, wait a minute! I need this type of therapy too. Is there a sign up
sheet? Of course who ever goes first is not likely to ever be cured.
Susan - been following this thread with great amusement, thank you. <g>
kismatt
news:lUgcb.605$QD4.83...@newssvr11.news.prodigy.com:
I dunno, Susan....in the spirit of fairness, I supposed after a while
someone will have to share....but I think I'll require multiple sessions!
;-)
Scuttlebutt has it that RDA was in Vancouver during Gatecon....*sigh*
What did you think of the MGM 'wet' pic Silly posted yesterday? I think
I'm still on the floor :::looks:::: yep.... yeowwwwsaaa *thud*
Eva
> "Susan" <ewokm...@nospamyahoo.com> wrote in
> news:lUgcb.605$QD4.83...@newssvr11.news.prodigy.com:
>
> >
> > "kismatt" <i-...@in-orbit.com> wrote in message
> > news:Xns94005352BD3...@192.168.1.100...
> >> diane <spamnotme@dakevb_spamnot.fsnet.co.uk> wrote in
> >> news:20030924104...@news.btinternet.com:
> >> >
> >> > now in your case I would suggest aversion thereapy - you just get him
> >> > 24hrs a day until you get sick of him <g>
> >>
> >> LOL Sign me up for this!!!!! whooohooooo! Jen! You have to share!
> >>
> >> How many days till GC2004??
> >>
> >> Kelly M
> >> SJHW Famine
> >> aka 'The Smartass in the Back of the Room'
> >
> > Now, wait a minute! I need this type of therapy too. Is there a sign up
> > sheet? Of course who ever goes first is not likely to ever be cured.
> >
> > Susan - been following this thread with great amusement, thank you. <g>
>
> I dunno, Susan....in the spirit of fairness, I supposed after a while
> someone will have to share....but I think I'll require multiple sessions!
> ;-)
<discretely leads Jack inside Connie's bunker and locks the door behind him>
Um, hi everyone! I have some bad news, I'm afraid, Jack will not be
available for quite some time in the near future due to....due to....hell,
he'll just be unavailable, OK? I know, it's a hard life and all that but
it's for his own protection. We still have half a season to get through and
he needs to be preserved.
<puts up a sign>
TO THOSE WHO WANT TO DROWN THEIR SORROWS, THE BAR IS THIS WAY ---------->
(That should hopefully drum up some business...)
Eva"sharing? who said anything about sharing??" :-)
Lisa
>
> Well the one McGyver ep I saw a bit of had RDA on a horse being
> airlifted up in a helicopter - so RDA can ride, Jack is from Minesota,
> so I would guess that yes, Jack can ride horses.
He rode one in Emancipation IIRC, although we only saw it briefly.
Anyway, Lisa could
> give yuou lessons - she knows which end gets the food and which end
> kicks - either that or we hire Anthony Stewart Head to do it <sigh>
> Lisa could have super advanced classes,
Oh yes, very personal and private super advanced classes, every single day
for at least six months <g>
.
I could have the refresher
> course and you could do beginners.... I *like* that idea! he must be
> able to ride surely? - his partner is a horse whisperer.......
We saw him riding his very nice horse at the start of Lessons, beginning of
season 6 and jolly nicely he rode too :-)
Lisa
>
kismatt
news:bks7k4$54or6$1...@ID-49577.news.uni-berlin.de:
> <discretely leads Jack inside Connie's bunker and locks the door
> behind him>
>
:::gets out the lockpicks:::
Ooooh, Jaa-aaack.....I have ESPN....and beer....and snacks....
>:)
Kelly M
SJHW Famine
aka 'The Smartass in the Back of the Room'
Ooh, I guess we ARE evil, after all! ;-)
Lisa
>
> The fact that at the con there were shippers and Daniel fans who had fun
> together and forged new friendships / renewed old ones is not something
> that makes sense within some sections of fandom. the fact that these
> friends can disagree about who are the fabulous actors and what are the
> best plot lines is beyond their experience. I met a lovely woman at the
> con who *loves* the Sam / Jack ship but whose favourite character is
> Daniel and was practically swooning when MS appeared on stage (and was
> literally shaking after the photo with him<g>). She would have been
> gobsmacked to be told that she was not allowed to hold such
> contradictory "likes". that's what normal healthy fandom is about - and
> that is what Gatecon was about, not the kind of fanwars that Leah is
> trying to stir up again. IMO it is simply sticking in her throat that it
> was such a wonderful experience for *all* fans and that there were no
> divisions.
LOL, remember some of the reactions I got though to signing Corin's birthday
card? Some just couldn't understand how I could sign the card when I
disliked Jonas so much. Strangely enough though Jonas and Corin aren't the
same, Jonas the character was a limp, wet blanket, Corin the actor is
completely different and I saw no reason not to wish him a happy birthday.
Makes sense to me anyway.
Lisa
Susan
> "Eva" <eva1rem...@ukonline.co.uk> wrote in
> news:bks7k4$54or6$1...@ID-49577.news.uni-berlin.de:
>
> > <discretely leads Jack inside Connie's bunker and locks the door
> > behind him>
> >
>
> :::gets out the lockpicks:::
>
> Ooooh, Jaa-aaack.....I have ESPN....and beer....and snacks....
>
> >:)
>
> Kelly M
> SJHW Famine
> aka 'The Smartass in the Back of the Room'
I'll spring for the pay per view NHL package where you can sit on my couch
and watch hockey all day, all night, all hockey. <g> And I have lots of
snacks, and beer, and..... aha! I have two of his favorite things - a dog
and a kid. <g>
Are we trying to lure RDA or Jack here? I might have to re-think my
strategy.
Susan
Susan
>
> Scuttlebutt has it that RDA was in Vancouver during Gatecon....*sigh*
Really? Hopefully he's saving his appearance for the last season. There's
an infinitesimal chance I'll be there next year. : )
> What did you think of the MGM 'wet' pic Silly posted yesterday? I think
> I'm still on the floor :::looks:::: yep.... yeowwwwsaaa *thud*
The one where he's coming up out of the water? Oh my. I had to put down
pillows, and fetch towels to mop up the drool. I was typing from the floor
the day someone sent that link to multiple lists I'm on. But I thanked her
profusely for that picture. It's my new wallpaper. <g>
Susan
kismatt
news:jWmcb.3106$qo.223...@newssvr12.news.prodigy.com:
> I'll spring for the pay per view NHL package where you can sit on my
> couch and watch hockey all day, all night, all hockey. <g> And I have
> lots of snacks, and beer, and..... aha! I have two of his favorite
> things - a dog and a kid. <g>
>
> Are we trying to lure RDA or Jack here? I might have to re-think my
> strategy.
>
> Susan
>
LOL
Okay, I have the dog, but don't have the kid....but I can GET one that's
about as hockey-crazy as you can get.....
and ...do we have to decide between the two? I'll take both, please....
;-)
Me
SJHW Famine
who's sick of being at work....
diane
LOl - Jonas the wonder-under (water swimmer<g>) a wet blanket - heresy!
the man is a sex god! Actually, I think Jonas is much sexier than Corin (
although Corin is a lovely man) while Michael, OTOH, is much sexier than
Daniel..... but I wouldn't mind spending time with any of the four of
them <g>
BTW, I picked up some teensy Firefly goodies for you and Eva and Allie
while in Vangroovy. Wasn't there someone else on here that was hooked
too? Elaine?
diane
diane
> diane wrote
>
>
>>
>> Well the one McGyver ep I saw a bit of had RDA on a horse being
>> airlifted up in a helicopter - so RDA can ride, Jack is from Minesota,
>> so I would guess that yes, Jack can ride horses.
>
> He rode one in Emancipation IIRC, although we only saw it briefly.
>
> Anyway, Lisa could
>> give yuou lessons - she knows which end gets the food and which end
>> kicks - either that or we hire Anthony Stewart Head to do it <sigh>
>> Lisa could have super advanced classes,
>
> Oh yes, very personal and private super advanced classes, every single
>> course and you could do beginners.... I *like* that idea! he must be
>> able to ride surely? - his partner is a horse whisperer.......
>
> We saw him riding his very nice horse at the start of Lessons,
> beginning of season 6 and jolly nicely he rode too :-)
there you go then! shall we book him Eva?
diane
Eva
<snip>
> LOl - Jonas the wonder-under (water swimmer<g>) a wet blanket - heresy!
> the man is a sex god! Actually, I think Jonas is much sexier than Corin (
> although Corin is a lovely man) while Michael, OTOH, is much sexier than
> Daniel..... but I wouldn't mind spending time with any of the four of
> them <g>
Diane!! I am horrified, I am.... four of them?? <g>
> BTW, I picked up some teensy Firefly goodies for you and Eva and Allie
> while in Vangroovy. Wasn't there someone else on here that was hooked
> too? Elaine?
> diane
You brought us Captain Tightpants?? That's so selfless of you, Diane, it
really is, I don't know what to say....
Eva"when can I have him?"
maxx
this photo?
-- maddmaxx
diane
> "diane" <spamnotme@dakevb_spamnot.fsnet.co.uk> wrote in message
>
> <snip>
>
>> LOl - Jonas the wonder-under (water swimmer<g>) a wet blanket -
>> heresy! the man is a sex god! Actually, I think Jonas is much sexier
>> than Corin ( although Corin is a lovely man) while Michael, OTOH, is
>> much sexier than Daniel..... but I wouldn't mind spending time with
>> any of the four of them <g>
>
> Diane!! I am horrified, I am.... four of them?? <g>
>
one at a time!! honestly Eva<g>
>> BTW, I picked up some teensy Firefly goodies for you and Eva and
>> Allie while in Vangroovy. Wasn't there someone else on here that was
>> hooked too? Elaine? diane
>
> You brought us Captain Tightpants?? That's so selfless of you, Diane,
> it really is, I don't know what to say....
>
> Eva"when can I have him?"
I'm afraid the signed pic of the cap'n will forever remain in my
custody<g> these are just little goodies supplied by someone who is a
Browncoat as well as a Gater and sold in aid of JR's Charity - Canadian
Cysitic Fibrosis Foundation..
diane
diane
>
I'll raise you both two dogs and three kids and throw in 6 cats, a
parrot and a chinchilla as well.
I *think* I'd get on better, conversation wise, with RDA than Jack -
OTOH, from what I've seen of RDA on talk shows, I find Jack a tad more
attractive (not that RDA isn't drop dead gorgeous of course... etc etc)
but the Jack character just has that *something* - the old "wounded
hero" thing I suppose.
diane (who's not going to be greedy, I'll take either)
Susan
> I'll raise you both two dogs and three kids and throw in 6 cats, a
> parrot and a chinchilla as well.
>
> I *think* I'd get on better, conversation wise, with RDA than Jack -
> OTOH, from what I've seen of RDA on talk shows, I find Jack a tad more
> attractive (not that RDA isn't drop dead gorgeous of course... etc etc)
> but the Jack character just has that *something* - the old "wounded
> hero" thing I suppose.
>
> diane (who's not going to be greedy, I'll take either)
Well, I'm not greedy either, I'll take either (or both) but I think I'd
prefer RDA.
And I'll raise you to a backyard pool, almost always warm Texas weather,
and... and... I'll think of something great. <g>
Susan
Susan
"maxx" <madd...@citicom.com> wrote in message
news:3rrcb.1$zl...@fe05.atl2.webusenet.com...
> So I'm slow on the uptake, I missed it, I'm unobservant ... where can I
see
> this photo?
>
> -- maddmaxx
http://www.stargate-sg1.com/home/episodes/images/fullsize_s6/Descent2.jpg
Have some thudding pillows handy.
Wet!Jack.... yummmmmmm
Susan
conartist
Eva wrote:
> "Jen" <jhe...@nospam.lycos.com> wrote in message
> news:3f6fc62c$0$2335$c3e...@news.astraweb.com...
[snip]
[Horse Women]
> Hmm, do I really absolutely *have* to be a Horse Woman, since I've never
> ridden a horse in my life and would probably be scared to do so. Then
> again, if Jack asked me to go horse riding with him, instead of fishing, I
> certainly wouldn't say no. Of course, I'd be safe since there wouldn't be a
> horse in sight there... <g> CONNIE!!! Does Jack like horses??
Well let me think.... I recall a MacGyver episode in which
RDA rode quite well, although it could have been a stunt
double for all I know. As for Jack, the only horses I can
think of that we've seen on SG1 were in 'Emancipation', but
Jack didn't ride any of them that I recall. Jack does like
dogs and dogs are kind of like little horses, so probably.
And you can't forget that "undomesticated equines" will
not drive Teal'c away from Jack. :-)
That is all I know about Jack and horses. However if Jack
treats riding horses like fishing you've got nothing to
worry about.
-conartist
conartist
Eva wrote:
> "kismatt" <i-...@in-orbit.com> wrote in message
> news:Xns94005764360...@192.168.1.100...
>
>>"Susan" <ewokm...@nospamyahoo.com> wrote in
>>news:lUgcb.605$QD4.83...@newssvr11.news.prodigy.com:
>>
>>
>>>"kismatt" <i-...@in-orbit.com> wrote in message
>>>news:Xns94005352BD3...@192.168.1.100...
>>>
>>>>diane <spamnotme@dakevb_spamnot.fsnet.co.uk> wrote in
>>>>news:20030924104...@news.btinternet.com:
>>>>
>>>>>now in your case I would suggest aversion thereapy - you just get him
>>>>>24hrs a day until you get sick of him <g>
>>>>
>>>>LOL Sign me up for this!!!!! whooohooooo! Jen! You have to share!
>>>>
>>>>How many days till GC2004??
>>>>
>>>>Kelly M
>>>>SJHW Famine
>>>>aka 'The Smartass in the Back of the Room'
>>>
>>>Now, wait a minute! I need this type of therapy too. Is there a sign up
>>>sheet? Of course who ever goes first is not likely to ever be cured.
>>>
>>>Susan - been following this thread with great amusement, thank you. <g>
>>
>>I dunno, Susan....in the spirit of fairness, I supposed after a while
>>someone will have to share....but I think I'll require multiple sessions!
>>;-)
>
>
> <discretely leads Jack inside Connie's bunker and locks the door behind him>
I'm so happy I was on the right side of the door when you
did this Eva. [g]
> Um, hi everyone! I have some bad news, I'm afraid, Jack will not be
> available for quite some time in the near future due to....due to....hell,
> he'll just be unavailable, OK? I know, it's a hard life and all that but
> it's for his own protection. We still have half a season to get through and
> he needs to be preserved.
You tell them Eva. ;-)
> <puts up a sign>
>
> TO THOSE WHO WANT TO DROWN THEIR SORROWS, THE BAR IS THIS WAY ---------->
Nice sign.
> (That should hopefully drum up some business...)
>
> Eva"sharing? who said anything about sharing??" :-)
All these new Jackettes and so little Jack.
-conartist
Elaine Palmer
<snip>
> BTW, I picked up some teensy Firefly goodies for you and Eva and Allie
> while in Vangroovy. Wasn't there someone else on here that was hooked
> too? Elaine?
Yup, guilty as charged. So, have you seen the last few episodes yet? If
not, by the time you see them I'll have forgotten what happened!
Lisa
> there you go then! shall we book him Eva?
Quick Eva, run for the phone!
Lisa <------top of the lesson list
diane
> diane wrote:
>
> <snip>
>
>> BTW, I picked up some teensy Firefly goodies for you and Eva and
>> Allie while in Vangroovy. Wasn't there someone else on here that was
>> hooked too? Elaine?
>
> Yup, guilty as charged. So, have you seen the last few episodes yet?
> If not, by the time you see them I'll have forgotten what happened!
I have, yes, sniff. I must do a rewatch though, they were brilliant.
diane
diane
ok you take RDA down to the sunshine and I'll take Jack fishing <g> we
live on the coast and the fishermen are down by the beach all weathers -
they catch stuff too<g> the dog can have his morning swim while Jack
and I snuggle up in the beach huts. Perfect!
diane
Elaine Palmer
They were indeed. Its cancellation was a criminal decision, in my
opinion. I might get the DVDs when they're released over here so I can
rewatch if there's going to be a film. We didn't tape them to keep so I
can't do a rewatch any other way.
diane
well - if he gets to be the new Doctor I could relive my chilhood and
dream of being one of his assistants again - the number of times we
saved the galaxy - you have no idea! oh, and I'd bring back K9 (but
give him legs so he could handle stairs!)
diane