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Dorraj

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Jul 21, 1999, 3:00:00 AM7/21/99
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Hey, remember the discussion several months ago when the "Drugs are Bad"
premiered? To refresh your memories, Mackey blurted out a line like "I don't
need your self-righteous, authoritarian bullshit" uncensored when the show
aired at 10 p.m. EST. When CC showed it three hours later (and on all
subsequent airings) it has been bleeped.

I remember a bunch of regulars here was trying to figure out how/why it
managed to get on the air. Now, straight from the NY Times, is an item that
sounds a lot like the official expalanation on the incident from Doug Herzog
(former head of CC):

>Herzog notes that the broadcast networks are held to a different standard
>than cable networks when to comes to foul language or sexual content, because
>the broadcasters are licensed by the Federal Communications Commission. He
>pointed out that viewers seemed to simply accept such things as four-letter
>words on cable channels.
>
>As an example, he cited a moment from his days at Comedy Central, when an
>episode from "South Park" arrived so late it had to be rushed onto the air
>the same day. In the television version of "South Park," the cartoon children
>frequently utter four-letter words, but they are bleeped, much in the way Fox
>is doing on "Action."
>
>That night, when Herzog watched the new episode of "South Park" at his home,
>however, he heard one character utter the most common of sexual obscenities,
>which had gone unbleeped in the rush to complete the episode. He expected a
>flood of protests from viewers. "We didn't even get one call," he said.

The full story, "Mainstream TV bets on 'gross-out' humor" is online at:
http://www.nytimes.com/yr/mo/day/news/financial/tv-gross-media.html

Jarrod Kopp
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Eric Perlin

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Jul 21, 1999, 3:00:00 AM7/21/99
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Dorraj wrote...

>>That night, when Herzog watched the new episode of "South
>>Park" at his home, however, he heard one character utter
>>the most common of sexual obscenities, which had gone
>>unbleeped in the rush to complete the episode. He expected
>a flood of protests from viewers. "We didn't even get one
>>call," he said.


Since no one is complaining, why do they bleep? Why not show every
episode in all its unbleeped fucking glory?

Another question: Why do they always bleep out the word shit, yet
they rarely bleep out asshole? How did asshole become a more
offensive word than shit???


pstokely

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Jul 21, 1999, 3:00:00 AM7/21/99
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>Hey, remember the discussion several months ago when the "Drugs are Bad"
>premiered?

it was more than a year ago

Hiro Protagonist

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Jul 21, 1999, 3:00:00 AM7/21/99
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Eric Perlin wrote:

> Another question: Why do they always bleep out the word shit, yet
> they rarely bleep out asshole? How did asshole become a more
> offensive word than shit???

They've been using the word "ass" and all its variations for years, ever
since season one of The Simpsons (I think "In Living Colour" may have
something to do with it too). So, since they were allowed to use the
word "ass" in the context of "Making a total ass of himself," it soon
became okay to use the word "ass" in the context of, "I drink my
Kool-Aid slowly sip by sip, 'cuz of these big-ass lips!"

I think it was a show on the Fox Network where they start using the word
"ass" to denote someone's posterior...I think it was "Herman's Head"
(ie: "Bitch...but nice ass on her").

Soon, The Fox Network aired "Spaceballs", which had one or two instances
of the word "asshole" in the film.

Like they said in an ep. of the Simpsons..."Fox became a hardcore porn
station so gradually that we hardly even noticed." Myself? I'm waiting
for Fox to broadcast the first televised execution.

Peace,
Vince Yim
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Legion1979

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Jul 21, 1999, 3:00:00 AM7/21/99
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Well, they can't say shit on South Park but they are allowed to say dick and
pussy. I dont know about you, but I find slang words for human genitalia much
more offensive that the word shit.

Keyser Soze

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Jul 21, 1999, 3:00:00 AM7/21/99
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The word pussy was never used to refer to female genetalia in any of the
episodes.
———————————~——~——————————————————————~~
LeEsPaM — Some Guy

"Listen you f*ckers, you screwheads. Here is a man who stood up to the scum,
the c*nts, the dogs, the filth, the sh*t. Here is a man who stood up." —
Travis Bickle

D.G. Porter

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Jul 21, 1999, 3:00:00 AM7/21/99
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Legion1979 wrote:
>
> Well, they can't say shit on South Park but they are allowed to say dick and
> pussy. I dont know about you, but I find slang words for human genitalia much
> more offensive that the word shit.

It must be a "guy thing" because I find myself laffing at the dumbest
"dick & pussy" jokes, like when Terrance and Phillp's nemesis (what was
his name, the guy with the glans-shaped head?) ask T&P, "Do you know
why I hate you?" one of them answers bluntly, "'Cause you're a dick?"

William Lynch

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Jul 21, 1999, 3:00:00 AM7/21/99
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Legion1979 wrote:
>
> Well, they can't say shit on South Park but they are allowed to say dick and
> pussy. I dont know about you, but I find slang words for human genitalia much
> more offensive that the word shit.

I think this says more about you than SP.

Bill Lynch :-)

TnAdct

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Jul 21, 1999, 3:00:00 AM7/21/99
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Another thing you got to consider here as to why the episode aired with Mr.
Mackey saying "bullshit" was rushed was simply because it was actually meant to
air the week after it actually premired. However, for some reason we don't even
know, Chickenfucker, the episode that was supposed to air that night, was held
back to the next week, thus allowing Ike's Wee-Wee to end up airing a week
ahead of schedule, and since this was rushed, they didn't have time to bleep
out the line.

Joe Klemm

jpeabody

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Jul 21, 1999, 3:00:00 AM7/21/99
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Names for body parts are becoming more accepted, with some nasty exceptions.
Bullshit is an expletive and is a variation on one of the 7 Dirties. There
is also the issue of repetition. Howard Stern said something today when
discussing the Kid Rock song "Balls in your Mouth" about it being a problem
because he says "balls" so many times. Apparently just a couple times is
ok.

Eric Perlin wrote in message <6Fcl3.212$z6....@news.cwix.com>...


>Dorraj wrote...
>>>That night, when Herzog watched the new episode of "South
>>>Park" at his home, however, he heard one character utter
>>>the most common of sexual obscenities, which had gone
>>>unbleeped in the rush to complete the episode. He expected
>>a flood of protests from viewers. "We didn't even get one
>>>call," he said.
>
>
>Since no one is complaining, why do they bleep? Why not show every
>episode in all its unbleeped fucking glory?
>

otherwise known as HippiChk79

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Jul 21, 1999, 3:00:00 AM7/21/99
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>Kyle: Maybe you can kiss her.
>Cartman: Or slip her the tongue.
>Kenny: (muffled)
>Stan: WHAT? How do you know she has a cat?

I knew someone else would say that!


KyleIke13~

What does Cartman mean by "living in denial"? ~ Stan

Dude, it's Cartman. He's just being a dumbarse like always! ~ Kyle

otherwise known as HippiChk79

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Jul 21, 1999, 3:00:00 AM7/21/99
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>The word pussy was never used to refer to female genetalia in any of the
>episodes.

Kenny said it once, but I don't know if you're counting that...heh!

Bambi Battle

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Jul 21, 1999, 3:00:00 AM7/21/99
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> Terrance and Phillp's nemesis (what was his name, the guy with the glans-shaped
> head?)

SCOTT


Bambi Battle

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Jul 21, 1999, 3:00:00 AM7/21/99
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William Lynch wrote:

Haven't you, all my friends, learned anything form the South Park movie??? What is
Step 2?
DON'T SAY SHIT, SAY POO!!!!!

Michael Pitts

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Jul 22, 1999, 3:00:00 AM7/22/99
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> The word pussy was never used to refer to female genetalia in any of the
> episodes.

Sure it was.. Remember in Ike's Wee Wee. Mr. Mackey gets fired and is
hanging out in the bar and the devil says "Drink the beer, it will make you
feel better', then the angel says "Yeah, don't be such a pussy, mmmkay"

That is the first example I could think of.

> -----------~--~----------------------~~
> LeEsPaM - Some Guy


>
> "Listen you f*ckers, you screwheads. Here is a man who stood up to the
scum,

> the c*nts, the dogs, the filth, the sh*t. Here is a man who stood up." -
> Travis Bickle

Michael Pitts

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Jul 22, 1999, 3:00:00 AM7/22/99
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> It must be a "guy thing" because I find myself laffing at the dumbest
> "dick & pussy" jokes, like when Terrance and Phillp's nemesis (what was

> his name, the guy with the glans-shaped head?) ask T&P, "Do you know
> why I hate you?" one of them answers bluntly, "'Cause you're a dick?"

Scott is his name. :) I just can't believe more people didn't like
TP:NWMA.
I thought it was one of THE funniest episodes that Trey and Matt have put
together.

"You are such a dick, Scott."

"You're a dick"

"You're a dick"

"You're a dick"

"You're a dick"

........................

"You're a dick"

" THE TWO OF YOUR ARE THE MOST ANNOYING DICKS IN CANADA!"

:)


Stephen Hopkins

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Jul 22, 1999, 3:00:00 AM7/22/99
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Brian Barjenbruch wrote in message
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>> > The word pussy was never used to refer to female genetalia in any
of the
>> > episodes.
>>
>> Sure it was.. Remember in Ike's Wee Wee. Mr. Mackey gets fired and
is
>> hanging out in the bar and the devil says "Drink the beer, it will
make you
>> feel better', then the angel says "Yeah, don't be such a pussy,
mmmkay"
>>
>> That is the first example I could think of.
>

>Also, in Cartman Gets An Anal Probe, there's this scene (talking
about
>Wendy):


>
>Kyle: Maybe you can kiss her.
>Cartman: Or slip her the tongue.
>Kenny: (muffled)
>Stan: WHAT? How do you know she has a cat?


Kenny meant something else entirely, of course. You can always trust
Kenny to see the double entendre behind remarks.

Like in Clubhouses, for instance. They're all playing some game to
start with. Cartman cheats.

Stan: Right, that's it, we're not playing with you anymore.
Cartman: Oh, that's okay, I'll just play with myself. I play with
myself all the time.
Kenny: [collapses in a fit of giggles]
Cartman: What?

Cartman obviously didn't get it. Kenny did. :)

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james t.

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Jul 22, 1999, 3:00:00 AM7/22/99
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On Wed, 21 Jul 1999 05:12:34 GMT, "Eric Perlin"
<ericp...@SPAMSUCKScwix.com> wrote:

>Dorraj wrote...
>>>That night, when Herzog watched the new episode of "South
>>>Park" at his home, however, he heard one character utter
>>>the most common of sexual obscenities, which had gone
>>>unbleeped in the rush to complete the episode. He expected
>>a flood of protests from viewers. "We didn't even get one
>>>call," he said.
>
>
>Since no one is complaining, why do they bleep? Why not show every
>episode in all its unbleeped fucking glory?
>
>Another question: Why do they always bleep out the word shit, yet
>they rarely bleep out asshole? How did asshole become a more
>offensive word than shit???

I think "asshole" got through because there was a prescedent already
for it from "NYPD Blue". The word that surprises me that's allowed,
though, is "god-damn". I know many people who consider that the worst
of all profanities, worse even than "fuck".

SaraJ

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Jul 22, 1999, 3:00:00 AM7/22/99
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>Stan: Right, that's it, we're not playing with you anymore.
>Cartman: Oh, that's okay, I'll just play with myself. I play with
>myself all the time.
>Kenny: [collapses in a fit of giggles]
>Cartman: What?
>

I love that one. =)

SaraJ
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SNAFU=Situation Normal:All Fucked Up

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Lone Wolf

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Jul 25, 1999, 3:00:00 AM7/25/99
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On Sun, 25 Jul 1999 14:49:52 +0100, mrps...@email.com (Mr Psycho)
wrote:

>Hiro Protagonist of ***xieze-qilin***@bc.sympatico.ca graced us with
>these words of <supposed> wisdom...


>
>> Like they said in an ep. of the Simpsons..."Fox became a hardcore porn
>> station so gradually that we hardly even noticed."
>

>can you remember what ep was that?

The one where the Simpsons go to a midieval fair and Lisa goes to see
a fortune teller, who describes her first true love. We then flash
forward and see the Simpsons 20 years down the road... one of the
scenes is Marge and Homer in bed, watching TV. That's when they say
the line.


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Mr Psycho

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Jul 25, 1999, 3:00:00 AM7/25/99
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Hiro Protagonist of ***xieze-qilin***@bc.sympatico.ca graced us with
these words of <supposed> wisdom...

> Like they said in an ep. of the Simpsons..."Fox became a hardcore porn
> station so gradually that we hardly even noticed."

can you remember what ep was that?
>

> Peace,
> Vince Yim
>

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