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Dish was quite a woman. Mulcahy came back a changed man!
The Other Brad
> Does anyone know why there was a different actor portrarying Father Mulcahy
> in the first television episode.
Well, it was a TV pilot, and TV pilots can be tweaked, re-worked, or
thrown out with the garbage. I've always assumed that someone, after
seeing the finished product, just didn't feel like this George Morgan
fellow was right for the part. OTOH, George Morgan himself could have
felt the part wasn't right for him and left (can you imagine, if this
was the case, how hard he must have kicked himself?).
Okay then,
Chadd
From the horse's mouth:
From: el...@aol.com (Elsig)
Date: 06 Aug 2002 15:59:25 GMT
Subject: Re: A Question or 2, ok 3
Message-ID: <20020806115925...@mb-dh.aol.com>
>> Can anybody tell me why the actor (George Morgan?) who played F.
>> Mulchahey was replaced?
> George Morgan is a perfectly fine actor. We wanted someone who had a
> quirkier personality - one we wouldn't have to write into the script.
>
> LG
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I think this is FAQ material, if you don't already have it in there,
Elf.
Cheers,
Will
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> From the horse's mouth:
>
> From: el...@aol.com (Elsig)
> Date: 06 Aug 2002 15:59:25 GMT
> Subject: Re: A Question or 2, ok 3
> Message-ID: <20020806115925...@mb-dh.aol.com>
>
> >> Can anybody tell me why the actor (George Morgan?) who played F.
> >> Mulchahey was replaced?
>
> > George Morgan is a perfectly fine actor. We wanted someone who had a
> > quirkier personality - one we wouldn't have to write into the script.
> >
> > LG
The "Pete Best" of M*A*S*H.
--
Brad
>> > George Morgan is a perfectly fine actor. We wanted someone who had a
>> > quirkier personality - one we wouldn't have to write into the script.
>> >
>> > LG
>The "Pete Best" of M*A*S*H.
>
An excellent analogy!
IIRC, Pete Best was given some big bucks not too long ago from the Beatles or
the Beatles management. Something like that anyway.
I don't think George Margan was given anything.
Eddie
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If I want to chew the fat, I'll eat a sandwich.
Some tracks that Best drummed for were featured on the first Anthology release;
that's probably the source of the payment.
Jay
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Interestingly though, and I don't want to sway too far off topic, but I've
heard those early recordings with Pete Best on drums, one of which was
"Please Please Me" IIRC. The drumming sounded fine to me. But George
Martin's ear is well and truly more musical than mine.
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Brad
>Some tracks that Best drummed for were featured on the first Anthology
>release;
>that's probably the source of the payment.
>
After hearing those tracks, I understood why George Martin didn't want him in
the studio.
>Interestingly though, and I don't want to sway too far off topic,
Elf will give you a summons if you do. :-)
> but I've
>heard those early recordings with Pete Best on drums, one of which was
>"Please Please Me" IIRC. The drumming sounded fine to me.
Listen to it again. Timing is not the problem but his beat changes are. He's
too much all over the place. You can get away with that live in concert but not
in a studio and that was Martin's biggest complaint.
>But George
>Martin's ear is well and truly more musical than mine.
He's a classically trained musician and has played several bits on Beatles
records like some piano parts. I think he's proven that he's one of the best
producer/engineers out there.
> Listen to it again. Timing is not the problem but his beat changes are.
He's
> too much all over the place. You can get away with that live in concert
but not
> in a studio and that was Martin's biggest complaint.
I guess you're right, however I've heard a few live tracks with ol' Pete and
he sounded ok to me. Part of it of course was jealousy, he was more of a
pretty boy than Paul, so they axed him.
Hey this gives me an idea. Let's do a Beatles/M*A*S*H analogy.
I'd say:
Klinger = Ringo
Trapper = John
Hawkeye = Paul
BJ = George (the quiet one), and
Spearchucker = Stu Sutcliffe, he didn't stick around too long.
> > > > George Morgan is a perfectly fine actor. We wanted someone who had a
> > > > quirkier personality - one we wouldn't have to write into the
script.
> > > >
> > > > LG
> >
> > The "Pete Best" of M*A*S*H.
>
> Hey this gives me an idea. Let's do a Beatles/M*A*S*H analogy.
>
> I'd say:
>
> Klinger = Ringo
> Trapper = John
> Hawkeye = Paul
> BJ = George (the quiet one), and
> Spearchucker = Stu Sutcliffe, he didn't stick around too long.
I'd probably swap over Trapper and Hawkeye and make Hawkeye "John" and
Trapper "Paul". To me, Trapper was the one most likely to write silly love
songs. How about:
Colonel Blake = Brian Epstein
Dish = Jane Asher
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Brad
>Some tracks that Best drummed for were featured on the first Anthology
>release;
>that's probably the source of the payment.
>
I don't think that's it. He probably got paid to play the original tracks but
never held any copyrights.
I seem to remember then giving him a cool 2 million because they felt bad. I
wish someone would feel that badly for me!
>I guess you're right, however I've heard a few live tracks with ol' Pete and
>he sounded ok to me.
Right. Like I said, you can do that live simply because you're doing it once.
Nobody will notice it as they would with a released studio cut.
>Part of it of course was jealousy, he was more of a
>pretty boy than Paul, so they axed him.
I've never heard that. If that's true, then Best really, and I mean really got
screwed.
I have George Martin on The Complete Beatles saying he wouldn't let Best play
with them in the studio and I believe he was talking to John at the time. He
wasn't concerned with live shows, only studio sessions. Judging by the success,
I suppose Martin knows what he's talking about. I wish he would produce for me.
>Hey this gives me an idea. Let's do a Beatles/M*A*S*H analogy.
>
Good idea George.
>I'd say:
>
>Klinger = Ringo
>Trapper = John
>Hawkeye = Paul
>BJ = George (the quiet one), and
>Spearchucker = Stu Sutcliffe, he didn't stick around too long.
>
Spearchucker could be Billy Preston live on the Apple Records roof concert
playing keys on Get Back.
Trapper = Paul
Hawkeye = John. John was the wise ass of the group and funny as hell.
Klinger = Ringo. Dead on.
BJ = George. That'll work. Calvin Spalding too.
Larry Gelbart = George Martin.
Margaret = Linda M.
Rosie = Yoko.
Igor - Clapton. Guest appearance on While My Guitar Gently Weeps. (An al time
fav of mine)
>I'd probably swap over Trapper and Hawkeye and make Hawkeye "John" and
>Trapper "Paul". To me, Trapper was the one most likely to write silly love
>songs.
Yep! I posted that before I read your post Brad.
>Colonel Blake = Brian Epstein
Maybe George, the homosexual could be Eppy.
>Dish = Jane Asher
That works.
Henry is the nearest to Stu Sutcliffe, someone who died early on in their
career...
> Trapper = Paul
> Hawkeye = John. John was the wise ass of the group and funny as hell.
> Klinger = Ringo. Dead on.
> BJ = George. That'll work. Calvin Spalding too.
>
> Larry Gelbart = George Martin.
Potter should be George Martin, if only by age (it's hard to find anyone
else he could be).
> Margaret = Linda M.
Would work better if Hawkeye was Paul, don't you think?
> Rosie = Yoko.
Or Kellye
> Igor - Clapton. Guest appearance on While My Guitar Gently Weeps. (An al
time
> fav of mine)
Who does that leave? Burns and Winchester...
Charles could be Allan Klein, refined when he wants to be, but able to sneak
a quick buck for his own pocket at times. Though Klein's weasily side could
also be Frank. They could even be Mal Evans and Neil Aspinall without much
stretch...
The Other Brad
Three episodes, I think:
"Dear Dad ... Again" -- drumming for 'Hawkeye Pierce and his Swinging
Surgeons'
"ShowTime" -- sitting in with the USO group
"Bulletin Board" -- playing in the impromptu jam session on the
plastic buckets. If memory serves, Zale and Igor were also playing.
> Spearchucker could be Billy Preston live on the Apple Records roof concert
> playing keys on Get Back.
Good call Eddie. I guess Ugly John could be Stu.
>> Larry Gelbart = George Martin.
>
>Potter should be George Martin, if only by age (it's hard to find anyone
>else he could be).
Martin produced the Lads into stardom. Same could be said for Gelbart and MASH.
Potter could be the old guy climbing the ladder to the roof of Abbey Studios.
>> Margaret = Linda M.
>
>Would work better if Hawkeye was Paul, don't you think?
Would work better if Frank was Paul, but that's a stretch. I still think
Hawkeye is better as John.
>Potter should be George Martin, if only by age (it's hard to find anyone
>else he could be).
Just thought of who Potter could be:
Paul's grandfather in A Hard Day's Night!
That's like the fact that someone else plays "Face" in the first
"A-Team" episode... legend is that George Peppard (sp?) actually asked
to have the cast changed because "Face" was so much taller than him.
>Isn't it rather obvious that Raday is the drummer? We see it in one
>episode.
I thought of that. But Ringo and Kinger share in the "luck" they had just by
being there.
Ah, I assumed it was because of the nose...
>> I thought of that. But Ringo and Kinger share in the "luck" they
>> had just by being there.
>
>Ah, I assumed it was because of the nose...
>
>
LOL! Could be!
> Would work better if Frank was Paul, but that's a stretch. I still think
> Hawkeye is better as John.
Too bad Beej wasn't more like Paul, then Peg could be Linda.
He's quite clean.
> The "Pete Best" of M*A*S*H.
Could Rizzo possibly be Elvis Presley? They could all get together for
an informal jam session during one of the Christmas episodes?
Okay then,
Chadd
>Too bad Beej wasn't more like Paul, then Peg could be Linda.
>
I can't see Beeeeeej singing "Silly Love Songs" with a cheesy mustache.
Although Helter Skelter has some promise.
>Could Rizzo possibly be Elvis Presley? They could all get together for
>an informal jam session during one of the Christmas episodes?
>
Scary thought.
> Scary thought.
...and imagine this years' remix of "Little Less Conversation" featuring
Rizzo!
Even scarier thought.