I have a friend across the country who just told me yesterday the following:
This week, she brought her lunch to work (a salad, some dressing, and a
roll) and she put it in the fridge in the employees lunch. That day she
went out for lunch instead, so like the next day she went to get her lunch
and someone had stolen the salad and left the dressing and the roll. she
told her boss what had happened, and it turns out someones been stealing
food from his private office fridge too. He's been guessing it is the
cleaning people. SO my friend is planning to spike a lunch sandwich or
something with Senecal and laxatives and get the thief back in her own wierd
sort of revenge.
I was shocked and said that was a negative karma thing to do and that that
is intentionally poisoning someone. In the big picture of things, sure it
sucks that you're hungry and you are bummed when you discover someone took
the food you brought for your lunch, but hey - its not the end of the world.
Its kind of a small issue to fester about for days and plan to poison
someone over it. Imagine how it feels to be making minimum wages and
struggling to get by, maybe supporting kids, that you go without food so
your kids can eat better and you are so hungry you resort to stealing food
as you work your second job cleaning offices. I mean, its not right, but in
the scheme of things its not a capital crime. Its sad. Its karmically
wrong to stoop to a lower level, intentional bodily harm, than petty theft.
She says karma is bullshit, she told her boss her plans and he's all for it.
She says its not poisoning someone cuz they wont die. I say how do you know
they are not on some prescription or something that would react, and that
its intentionally causing bodily harm if someone dies, its gotta be some
kinda manslaughter charge.
What do you think?
Brenda
First off, if that first drug you mentioned is Xenical (can find nothing
on senecal, so I'm guessing that this is the drug...) then it would be
completely out of line to do that. This particular drug is to fight obesity
and there are some real side effects involved although I'm sure those come
along with prolonged use...
As for the Laxitives though... I don't see a problem. Sorry, but I'm
looking at this from the point of view of someone who doesn't have a pot to
piss in and often don't have anything to take with me for lunch. I would
NEVER think of taking someone else's lunch. The very idea of stealing from
someone else is repulsive to me. Stealing is wrong and a lesson needs to be
learned here. Aside from setting up hidden cameras to catch the thief at
work, spiking their booty is the next best retalliation.
As far as I know, laxitives are pretty innocuous. The theif will have
the shits for a day, but they will recover and maybe think twice about
stealing food again.
I hope that doesn't lable me a bad person, but I can definately see your
friend's point of view.
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Hmmmmm.....
LOL!
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I would certainly NEVER consider anything stronger than that however. When
you are looking at chemicals that could actually do some harm to the
individual, then you are crossing a line, but some metamucil in the chowder
I really don't think is a big deal.
Just my opinion,
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>But putting
Not you too Ice. Now you've gone and blown my image of you! I cant believe
how many pro-poisoners there are!! I posted this in the gh group too and so
far the its 6 poisoners against 3 antipoisoners. I'm shocked.
Brenda
;o)
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But... but... taking medicine if you're not sick cant be good and if someone
had a bad reaction, or say it caused permanent liver damage or colon damage
or something, that is just plain intentionally causing bodily harm as
punishment for petty theft. Punishment seems a little too severe for the
crime to me. I liked someone's idea about the note.
Brenda
I still think I'd do it though. Thus the conundrum...
Joolz
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I wouldn't want to hurt the person, but I would consider some Ex-Lax for
sure. I wouldn't take that garbage from people!
> OK seeing as we have a lot of opinionated people here, I thought this might
> be a good place to throw out this morality question that came up yesterday
> for me.
<snipped>
A little laxative won't hurt someone, anything stronger would not be a good
idea.
It is a sad thing when a person does not have enough money to feed their
family, but I would not buy into that excuse--it is a cop out. There is
always someplace someone can go if they fall short in the food department,
many caring people have put together outreach programs. Stealing is NEVER
excusable. JMHO
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Big surprise... I think it's wholly inappropriate.
I might find some other way to nail the guy, because I can conceive of too many
ways this could backfire...
A.) The guy stealing the food is sharing it with friends who have no idea he's
stealing... Yet *they* get the punishment for his actions.
B.) Guy gets *really* angry after getting nailed, and starts urinating or
whatever on *your* food in retaliation... but of course, tells you nothing
about it.
C.) Guy has a heart condition or high blood pressure... maybe even a spastic
colon or Crohn's disease... and ends up in the ER.
D.) Guy just happened to have taken some laxative on his own earlier... and
ends up with a larger dose.
E.) Guy has a colostomy or ileostomy stoma (which makes diarrhea *really*
painful... potentially life threatening)
F.) Manager being aware of it leads to a potential lawsuit against the company.
I'd probably nail the guy with a video camera or something, then confront him.
TrekNoid
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"Carolynn's Mom!" wrote:
>
> A mild laxative would cause death? ]
Anything can cause death if you're allergic enough to it.
I read all the answers to this before I finally saw the question. I'm with you
Brenda. I think it would be totally immoral to do such a thing.
Also, after having been in commercial property management, I find it is always
the cleaning staff to be accused of theft when in fact they are probably the
last ones to suspect. Remember, their jobs are dependent on their honesty.
And, as someone else mentioned, if someone needs that food so badly as to have
to steal it, I'd be happy to provide it for them.
I'd try this: Put a mouse trap in the bag set to go off if the content's are
disturbed. That way, if someone is taking it during the day, somebody should
hear it spring. Voila! You have your thief. Then that person should be dealt
with as any other thief would be.
Just Bonbon
Maybe a laxative in and of itself may not be harmfull but consider that the
person may be taking another type of medication that the laxative would
counteract! There are many things to consider here. I think it's as immoral
to do as the person stealing the food. Remember, two wrongs don't make a
right.
Just Bonbon
I like your idea about the mousetrap, except that I would be the one that
would forget it was in the bag and then... *SNAP!* LOL! Owie, owie,owie!
And, I'm not entirely sure that a mousetrap couldn't actually break a
finger.
It seems that most folks here are supportive of a hidden camera. Maybe a
note inside the food that says, "Smile, you're on candid camera"... LOL
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Of course, I'm also of the opinion that if you put peanuts in your salad and
a theif with a peanut allergy eats it and gets very ill, They deserve what
they get. Someone else pointed out that there are many different agencies
out there to help people in need and I agree. There is NEVER a good reason
to steal. Period.
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You know, given some time to think about it, Cleo, I think you're *on* to the
right approach to this...
I remember someone stealing a Bible from our church once, and my pastor
remarking that if someone needed a Bible bad enough to steal one, then they
needed one more than anyone...
Taking your idea and putting that principle into motion, I think you can solve
this problem one way or the other with a totally non-confrontational
approach...
Get a group of people together and take turns each day *making an extra lunch*
and put the guy's name on it and put it in the fridge.. spread it out where
each person only gets the job once a month...
One of two things will happen... He'll either be very appreciative, and you'll
all feel like you're helping someone out... or he'll get so embarrassed that
he'll stop...
Either way, the lunches stop disappearing... It's *very* important that his
name be on the bag, though... so be sure you've got the right guy...
Something else you could do... Stop by your local $1 store and pick up some
crackers and/or candy bars and leave them on him desk... anonymously... make
sure to leave them at him desk when he's not around to see who's doing it... If
the lunches stop dissappearing, then you've got the right guy... If not, it's
either the wrong guy, or the food's not really the issue.
Incidentally, I'm shocked that the manager has taken no actions on this guy...
By doing nothing (and even inviting retaliation on the guy) he's setting the
company up for a lawsuit...
Now, here's the catch: you aren't poisioning anyone. That's YOUR meal. If
they steal it, they get what they deserve.
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I knew someone back in High School whose name I won't mention...Randy
Farmer....very popular, bright, the least person you'd probably expect
trouble from. He slipped some ex-lax or other laxatives into the ice cream
that the chemistry lab was making. Winkenhoffer-McCurdy came by. They are
usually brought out to get dead people (hearses). But in this case they had
to help EMS take about a half dozen sick kids to the hospital. Randy was
suspended for I don't know how long. His brother had trouble living down the
shame.
Laxatives=no.
Dog mess sandwich=yes.
Icebreaker
Oh, now that would be priceless. Especially if you could get it on tape.
I have had my lunch taken a couple of times at work and even though it made me
very angry, I would never resort to something that might harm someone. I don't
think the offense is that severe. I think a lot of times, people don't stop
and think thoroughly what the consequences could be. Trek's post said it the
best.
Just Bonbon
I don't think they know who it is, Trek. If you know who it is, the biggest
part is solved.
Just Bonbon
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> Something else you could do... Stop by your local $1 store and pick up
some
> crackers and/or candy bars
But what about if the thief is diabetic? The candy bar could make his
blood/sugar level skyrocket. I'd suggest anonymously placing some tofu
spaghetti or soy milk on his desk. It's a healthy alternative for the
undernourished corporate grinch.
>and leave them on him desk... anonymously... make
> sure to leave them at him desk when he's not around to see who's doing
it... If
> the lunches stop dissappearing, then you've got the right guy... If not,
it's
> either the wrong guy, or the food's not really the issue.
Look, we're really missing the big issue here. This person has a job. They
can afford to grocery shop. Most likely it is a male, over 40, too lazy to
cook, doesn't like what his wife makes, or she doesn't cook either. There's
a phone. He can call Dominos.
The bottom line is that whoever started this thread has every right to put
on their food whatever they want. If they want to spring rabbit turds on
their Ceasar Salad, GO FOR IT! It's not their responsibilty to patrol the
refridgerator and make sure people don't steal. This is ludicrous. Whatever
happened to people paying for their actions?
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> I'd suggest anonymously placing some tofuspaghetti or soy milk on his desk.
> It's a healthy alternative for the undernourished corporate grinch.
>
Man, if my kid accidentally ate some tofu or drank some soy milk, you'ld
need an epi-pen to keep him alive! He is soooooooooooooo allergic to
the stuff.
Ah... okay... guess I missed that part...
I went back and read it again, and as I understand it, the lunch was left
overnight, and then a portion was missing the next day.
I can tell you... *that* would change the offense somewhat around here :)
Third shift people have made no bones about the fact that if you leave
something overnight, it's fair game :)
They don't have the luxury of going out and buying a candy bar or something
(like we do)... They're stuck here and can't leave the building... I've often
brought donuts in when I get called in at night because they never get the
chance to participate with the rest of us.
I do still think, though, that the manager knowingly encouraging an employee to
seek 'street justice' against the offender (whoever it turns out to be) is a
huge lawsuit waiting to happen...
I don't know who started this thread, but pay no attention to anyone but me.
Now listen, here's what you do: make an Alpo sandwich. Take a huge can of
Alpo and mix it with Manwich sauce and spread it lovingly on a sesame seed
hamburger bun. Garnish with a big pickle, chips and a slice of double
chocolate fudge cake.
See who doesn't come in the next day because of diahrrea.
Look at it this way, you are performing a loving kindness. You are helping
someone cure their kleptomania.
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And probably a good case of E-coli along with it. Anybody that couldn't smell
a dog pile sandwich before they bit into it needs to have their nose
investigated.
I will, however, go along with the Alpo sandwich. There's nothing that could
hurt you in there. I'd spice it up with a couple of good shakes of hot sauce
too.
Just Bonbon
>
>I knew someone back in High School whose name I won't mention...Randy
>Farmer....
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>Look, we're really missing the big issue here. This person has a job. They
>can afford to grocery shop. Most likely it is a male, over 40, too lazy to
>cook, doesn't like what his wife makes, or she doesn't cook either. There's
>a phone. He can call Dominos.
>
>The bottom line is that whoever started this thread has every right to put
>on their food whatever they want. If they want to spring rabbit turds on
>their Ceasar Salad, GO FOR IT! It's not their responsibilty to patrol the
>refridgerator and make sure people don't steal. This is ludicrous. Whatever
>happened to people paying for their actions?
>
Did you just take a crap, or what? ;^)
How did they know he did it?
Although I wouldn't put anything in my food to do harm, I might just put a
nasty note in it that I did and I am just waiting for you to barf your guts
out..........
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That's for courts... Revenge is punishable by law... You know that if you booby
trap your car for the *express* purpose of hurting a would-be thief, you *will*
go to jail...
I'm just more of the mindset that we should try to help *before* we hurt...
That's all.
Fill me in on what's going to cause the diahrrea. Actually, someone just may
like the Alpo/Manwich combo and you wouldn't accomplish anything. Dog food IS
fit for human consumption.
Just Bonbon
>
>Fill me in on what's going to cause the diahrrea. Actually, someone just may
>like the Alpo/Manwich combo and you wouldn't accomplish anything. Dog food
>IS
>fit for human consumption.
Are you KIDDING? The last time I opened a can of Alpo, I found a huge hunk of
arterial in that can when I poured it out.
Sure, it was in 1978, but still.
What in the heck is 'arterial?' In this context I mean. (We should probably
be doinging this IM.)
I've never fed my dogs Alpo but I used to feed my dog (in the 60s) Primetime.
Don't know if anyone remembers it but it came in little squares in a cello bag.
I was visiting my mom and left a bag on the kitchen counter. She came home
from work, tore open the bag, popped one in her mouth and said, "Oh, good,
coconut candy!" Boy, was she mad! :o)
Just Bonbon
>
>What in the heck is 'arterial?' In this context I mean. (We should probably
>be doinging this IM.)
I don't know. I just made up the word. ;^) You know, a huge chunk of what
was once an artery. I initially wrote "arterial wall" and then proceeded to
delete "wall" and mistakenly left "arterial."
>I've never fed my dogs Alpo but I used to feed my dog (in the 60s) Primetime.
>
>Don't know if anyone remembers it but it came in little squares in a cello
>bag.
Oh, like Gaines Burgers?
> I was visiting my mom and left a bag on the kitchen counter. She came home
>from work, tore open the bag, popped one in her mouth and said, "Oh, good,
>coconut candy!" Boy, was she mad! :o)
>
Double yuck!
When Bridget my dog was eating canned dog food it made
me sooo sick every time I had to spoon out that congealing
disgusting mess.
Thankfully, she decided she liked Moist and Meaty better. :)
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>I don't know. I just made up the word. ;^) You know, a huge chunk of what
>was once an artery.
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My dogs eat dry dog food and I have to hold my breath when I pour it into their
dish it smells so bad. I'll gag if I don't. Not to get too gross but to me is
smells the same going in and coming out. (It's Iam's lamb and rice.)
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Really? I didn't know that. Maybe I'll try switching to a chicken and rice
food. Thanks.
Just Bonbon
We had to tell everyone at Christmas dinner last year to
keep all turkey out of Bridget's reach. You know how people
are. They don't listen to you about your dog. They think they
know better. We told them whoever gave Bridget turkey had
to take her and her butt home with them. it worked. ;-)
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