(ASS & AT) PREDATOR's Manifesto by PRED (essay, non-fiction)
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Many of you at alt.sex.stories have e-mailed asking me what I am all
about. Some of you at alt.tasteless have asked for a sample posting
of my work. Here's a modest proposal that should satisfy both
requirements. The Manifesto was originally posted on the old Excite
Group - Misogynist's Club .. ubi sunt.
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PREDATOR's Manifesto
Introduction, or "But what about your mother, your sister, your
daughter ..?"
In my years writing ultracore fiction, both in the 'zine world
and online, I have received many hate letters and death threats. I
have also encountered many "devout" souls who have wished to open my
eyes to the "reality" of what I write. Typically, they first question
my masculinity, telling me my literary aggression is merely a mask for
an emasculated, dickless wimp who must never "score" in real life.
Then they will move on to my supposed inability to relate to women as
"equals," and then accuse me of being so unsure of my masculinity as
to be "threatened" by women. Invariably, these self-righteous
pinheads always wind up with the argument: "But what about your
mother? Your sister? Your daughters? Can't you see what you
advocate pertains to them to?"
When I read this absurd argument, I always chuckle. Of course
it pertains to them. All women are brainless cunts who, if left to
their own designs, would make this planet as uninhabitable. We may as
well let cute little bunny rabbits run amok without the benefit of
predatory thinning. For this reason, all cunts must be subjugated and
live forever "in their place." My perspective is not a question of
male versus female, it is a question of the symbiosis of PREDATOR and
prey. Cunts are dumber, slower, weaker, more emotional, less rational
.. in other words inferior to the predatory male. Thus, it is only
fitting they assume the role of prey.
I don't hate cunts. A lion does not hate the gazelle. He
merely hunts it and devours it. It is the balance of nature. The
cunt is ours to hunt and devour. It is that simple. My mother,
sister, or daughter is no different just because I supposedly have
some emotional bond with her. The laws of nature and the jungle are
not bound by human frailties and/or sentimentality.
Below, I would like to list some of the key factors in the
PREDATOR philosophy. These points are meant to enlighten both male
and female readers, as well as encourage debate and discussion.
Please contact me via e-mail or reply with a post to this newsgroup.
I will begin by identifying the world and its players as PRED sees
them.
The Predatory Male:
He knows exactly what he wants. His cock is perpetually hard,
and he only quells his appetite when he experiences the subjugation
and degradation of the cunt. His life is the perpetual hunt to feed
the perpetual hunger. He recognizes no moral WILL in relation to the
cunt, only the WILL to exercise power over her. He owes her nothing
but her place on the carnal food chain. He glorifies her by making
her his prey. That is her only real worth under natural law.
Because society has softened and placed him on a leash, the
predatory male is forced to lead a secret life. In the silent reverie
or his own thoughts, he lusts after nubile, giggling, sheltered, naive
cunts. He longs to rape total stranger cunts in broad daylight to the
cheers of a hundred other predatory males waiting in line for their
respective turns. He wishes to see all cunts bound and beaten, then
battered into utter submission. He wishes to inflict horrors upon
their gloriously defiled bodies, the likes of which their feeble minds
could never conceive. He wants to see them fuck dogs, horses and
other unrelenting beasts. He wants to see the largest phallic objects
possible crammed into the cunt's every orifice. Her whimpers make him
so hard he can sometimes cum merely by listening to her pathetic
pleas. He will pay women in order to use them as objects - cum
troughs, cock pockets, animated rape dolls -- much as he buys any tool
or toy .. for his amusement. He is constantly in search of the
youngest, freshest, most unspoiled cunt in the world. Nothing
invigorates him more than defiling such a creature and knowing he has
cast a pall over here that will live on in her nightmares for the rest
of the night.
The Cunt:
All females are cunts, regardless of age, race, looks, etc.
They are food, prey. If we do not eat of them, we die. It is that
simple. If we do not degrade them, we experience no desire. No
desire, and no seed is passed on. And the human race dies.
Why do we hunt the cunt? To propagate the species. When we
consider the cunt "human" and worthy of our sympathy or, worse yet,
our empathy, we starve. The natural order is thrown into chaos, and
entropy in the form of extinction sets in.
The cunt is biologically predetermined to submit to her role
as prey, just as any other quarry in the animal kingdom is born
following a similar course. We do not have "victim support groups"
for antelopes in the wild, or barnyard mice being hunted by cats - why
do we have them for cunts? Because we allowed it. We allowed
ourselves to be softened because we actually thought we could fuck
more cunts if we allowed them more freedom.
All we did, however, was turn the natural order on its ear.
Once cunts began pursuing their own emotional and sexual "needs" we
lost the predatory advantage. "Rules" entered into a dynamic that was
previously governed solely by instinct. What if the cheetah had to
follow certain rules while hunting? What if the jaguar had to ensure
its prey a comfortable, painless death? The animal kingdom would be
thrown into chaos.
This is exactly what we did, however, and what we continue to
do now. Do the human race a favor. Go home to your wife and
girlfriend and rape the hell out of her .. repeatedly. Let her know
what you demand from her all the time. After some blubbering and
bawling, she'll acclimate quite nicely to her new proper position.
Later, after you choke fuck her until the cum pours out of her ears,
she'll thank you as she gargles on your seed.
Rape:
Andrea Dworkin once defined all heterosexual intercourse as
"Rape." To a degree, I agree with that butt-ugly dyke monstrosity.
Fucking is equivalent to rape .. but only if it's done right. I agree
with all the man-hating rhetoric spewed out by Dworkin, MacKinnon and
their ilk. Fucking is violence towards women. So tell me something I
don't already know, cunts? They tell us that given the opportunity,
men would enslave women and make them permanent sex slaves. Once
again I ask: "SO?"
I only have one rule regarding rape. When you do it, make
sure you explain to the cunt exactly what is happening to her body.
Show her how her nipples get erect, and how her cunt moistens, and how
her hips buck reflexively when you impale her against her pathetic,
non-existent will. If you're really lucky, the stupid cunt will cum
as you rape her, thus letting her know that she isn't in control of
her body - YOU ARE. If this happens, make sure you let her know YOU
KNOW she came. I prefer a woman taste her own cum on the end of a
stabbing, choke-fucking cock.
On its most basic level, rape is feeding, nothing less. On a
more sublime plane, however, we should be concerned not with physical
rape, but soul rape. We must violate the spirit as well as the body,
crushing it, subjugating it. I strip a cunt of her given name when I
possess her. I make her refer to herself as "cunt" or "whore" or
"slut", or any similar name. I make her call me "Sir" or "master,"
and I make her beg me to rape her.
I inflict every possible degradation upon her body. I choke
fuck her windpipe with my cock. I shit and piss in her mouth,
reducing her to a human toilet. I rape and fist her asshole, very
often her mouth, too. I spank her, whip her, and cum repeatedly over
and inside every last portion her body.
When I am done with her, she is catatonic, softly mumbling to
herself: "Again .. please .. again .."
The White Man versus minorities:
This is a non-issue we have been wasting our time on as
predatory males. We should be united and raping cunts all throughout
the racial rainbow. I like seeing lily-white young cunts raped by
sociopathic niggers, sadistic spics, Allah-obsessed sand niggers,
hook-nosed kikes, or sick-fuck gooks. I use racial slurs and epithets
not because I attach any significance to the language, but merely
because the self-righteous among us find them deplorable. No TRUE
PREDATORY MAN is beneath another because of skin color or ethnic
origin. We are just different. Whites are more calculatingly
viscous, blacks more brutal, Latinos more sadistic, Asians more
pedophilic, Jews more scatological. Separately, we have myriad means
of defiling, degrading and humiliating cunts, and I applaud our
cultural differences.
I will call a black man a nigger, though, or a jew a kike, an
Asian a gook, an Arab a sand nigger, etc. I call cunts who fuck
outside their race Race Traitors. I do this precisely because it's
been deemed "wrong" to do so. It is speech, and I possess freedom of
speech. When someone tells me something is "wrong" I defy their
convention. If that offends anyone, well then FUCK YOU! It's just
words. You should have more important things to worry about than what
people say.
In racial terms, the white male predator suffers from a
dangerous myth tied to the religion of white supremacy - the myth of
Pure White Womanhood. So-called "white womanhood" is no more "sacred"
than the cunthood of any other twat of the human species. White men
are led to believe this, however, and it makes us soft, weak and
doughy. We are routinely cuckolded by the white cunts we call wives
and girlfriends, and they laugh at us behind our backs. They make
fun of our supposed lack of virility, and we do nothing to set them
straight. We gave the world Iron John, Alan Alda and the sensitive
man, when we should have been out skull raping every cunt whining
about her "needs."
I invite the black man and all other subjugated minorities to
join the ongoing cunt hunt and claim his fair share of tender,
cream-skinned white prey. Personally, I enjoy watching white cunts
violated and victimized by niggers, spics, kikes, gooks and sand
niggers. She's all yours brothers. Rape her well. She deserves it.
Overall, I believe I could heal the "racial divide" in a
minute. We'd merely say to ALL men: "Let's quit fighting among
ourselves and return to the HUNT. There's plenty of cunt to go
around."
The Nigger Stud:
Personally, I admire the technique of the nigger stud who
routinely seduces brainless white cunts and uses their bodies as
cream-colored cum dumpsters. The nigger's technique is simple and
effective. He knows all white cunts crave his huge black beastly cock
while simultaneously fearing his savage, animalistic brutality. He
also knows white women are taught to be guilty of these instinctual
fears, which the liberal education system falsely labels as the
"learned reaction" of racism.
Typically, the nigger stud corners the white cunt, who
ignorantly puts herself in a place to be taken and devoured. Her
feeble brain is thrilled at the idea that she is being so "cool,"
"liberal" and "enlightened" as to flirt with a black man.
Simultaneously, she insists on keeping her distance, much as a child
is fascinated by a large fierce rotweiler while observing it from
behind the safety of a fence. Unlike the rotweiler, however, the
nigger stud's attack is not hindered by any barrier.
He will close in on his quarry and begin battering her
defenses. Most often, he will question her false white morality,
asking her: "What's wrong? Are you prejudiced or something?" Later,
he will introduce into their conversation the classic, archetypal
lines alluding to the size of the nigger cock and the insatiable
sexual prowess of the black man, e.g. "Once you've gone black, you'll
never go back." After getting her oiled up with liquor or drugs, he
will inevitably just seize her and make her bend to his indomitable,
dark will. At the last gasps of her pitiful resistance, he will take
her by the hair and jam her mewling mouth over his hard, ebony shaft.
Then, as she sucks, she will merely accept her inevitable,
predetermined fate.
ALL women are slut cunts, too feeble-minded and clueless to do
anything but open their mouths and spread their legs. The white cunt
is no exception. Why hate the nigger stud for being a fellow
predator? Rather, the white man should realize the duplicity of his
wife, girlfriend, sister and daughter, and use it against her. When
you catch a cunt acting like a $2 slut, there is no crime in treating
her as such. Enjoy the opportunity to beat, bang, humiliate and
degrade her even further. Then cast her out on the street and let her
pay the price for her cunt ways. The nigger stud is not the white
man's enemy. He is just another predator in the jungle, and there is
prey enough for all of us to share.
The Spic Grease-Ball:
I enjoy watching inner city white trash fall prey to the
Latino gangsters prowling our public high schools and street corners.
The spic predator is especially violent and sadistic, often relishing
the act of keeping his cunt du jour in line with the sleek sharpness
of a straight razor. I've seen cunts with their faces slashed and
nipples sliced by Latino predators. Once pretty girls are horribly
mutilated into freakish zombies, so repulsive they have to beg men to
show them a little attention with a good, hard raping. Viva Zapata,
Frito Bandito. Keep up the good work.
The Towel-headed Sand Nigger:
These men buy their cunts with cold hard cash. The make the
cunts so dizzy with material wealth, she's forced to ignore their
horrid body odor and suck their goatish, reeking cocks. In college, I
once watched a little sister in my fraternity blow Kal, one of my
Kuwaiti frat brothers. The guy was loaded, and she was itching to
marry rich. He also smelled like the back of a bus, and you could see
her choking on her own vomit as he mastered her gaping, cum-guzzling
mouth. When he came, she gagged and burped his foul issue through her
nose. When we all laughed at this, Kal became so embarrassed and
infuriated he made her suck him off again to "get it right." Then he
invited us to watch further as fucked her ass with no lube. She
suffered all this, of course, so she could sink her cunt claws into
his money. After a year, he dumped her white trash ass and headed
back home to marry a "proper" cunt.
Kudos to the sand nigger. He inflicts a no-nonsense,
patriarchal brutality upon his property that makes my cock sanguine
with envy. I love those crazy towel-headed camel jockeys with their
public stonings and honor killings. They are especially ruthless with
gold-digging white cunts who sell their pussies, asses and mouths for
gold baubles and expensive cars. If veil-wearing sand nigger cunts
are third-class citizens in the Islamic world (ranked below a man's
camel), then white trophy sluts are off the fucking list. On top of
that, if any cunt steps out of line just once she can be ritually
murdered to restore the offended man's "honor." One of my favorite
snuff vids features a sand nigger cunt being stripped, whipped and
then stoned to death. Men, kids, old women, even her own children get
in on the act. The whole process takes about an hour and a half.
Huge rocks just keep bouncing off her naked, bruised body. Every once
in awhile, they stand her up and make her walk around while the crowd
jeers at her and curses her as a whore. You gotta love that!
The Hook-Nosed Jew:
Once again, money is the prime attractant here, and cunts of
all races pursue the Jewish man for his wealth and prestige.
Half-Jewish and hook-nosed myself, I am intimately familiar with how
mentally fucked up the kike predator can be. Some of your sickest
fucks are yids (or half Jewish). I have Jewish friends who routinely
piss in their cunts' faces and turn their cunts' mouths into
shit-filled toilets. They only do this with shiksas, however, because
kike cunts would never stand for this kind of treatment. Besides,
Jewish American Princesses (JAPs) are too busy getting ass-fucked by
nigger studs and buying them things on their husband's credit cards to
engage in such dirty business (see Jewish American Princess cunts
below).
The Slanty-Eyed Gook:
Wealth again figures into the cunt's willingness to prostitute
herself to this inscrutable, shiftless, slanty-eyed predator. Inside
the boudoir, Asians of all persuasions may just be the sickest, most
depraved monsters of all. Pedophilia is a treasured part of gook
culture -- be it Nip, Thai, Fillipino, etc. --and their S&M subculture
ranks as the finest blend of Eastern and Western patriarchal
domination in the world. On a recent sex tour of Laos, Thailand and
the Philippines, I saw my gook brethren treat their cunts with an
abject cruelty even I could not equal. One "broker" I dealt with
charged me $1000 American dollars for four hours with 2 utterly
terrified young "hill girls" he'd just added to his stable. When he
left the room, I noticed the assortment of "tools" he had left at my
disposal - rope, needles, pliers, bunson burners, stun guns, a whip.
Let's just say I experimented a lot that afternoon. I think the cunts
appreciated my thoroughness. They must have because they didn't
complain.
The White Cunt:
She will betray her white family and husband in a heartbeat.
She lusts for black and every other kind of cock, so I say let her
have it. Let the other predators out there show her what she's good
for. Then when she comes home all damaged and looking for sympathy,
you can rape some discipline back into her worthless white hide and
sell her used body on the streets for $20 a throw.
The thing you must remember when dealing with white trash
cunts is DON'T BELIEVE A FUCKING WORD THEY SAY! If she tells you
she's out with a friend, she's fucking around on you. Going back to
school, my ass! Looking for extracurricular cock is more like it. I
advocate harsh discipline for the disobedient cunt, be she wife,
girlfriend, sister or daughter. Wait for her to fuck up .. and
believe me she will .. then punish her good!
The amazing thing about white cunts is how fucking stupid they
are. You would think that after getting beaten black and blue and
butt-banged, they'd learn their fucking lesson. Luckily, they don't
ever learn, and you can keep punishing their stupid white asses
forever.
The Nigger Cunt or Ho:
She will fuck anyone or anything for a price. All nigger
cunts are ho's. They all need to be broken and used as fuck toys. I
make them call me "Massa," which they all do willingly after they've
been broken. I especially like breaking the uppity ho's, the ones who
think they're "classy," "professional" ladies. When you make one of
them grovel with your cock shoved down her gasping black throat, then
you know you've arrived.
Basically, nigger ho's are just as two-timing and traitorous
to the black man as white cunts are to the white man. She will dump a
black man for a white man with a thick wallet any day of the week.
She will talk about racial pride and self-respect, then let you cum in
her face for a few bucks and some cheap gold jewelry.
Biologically, the nigger ho' has been bred to withstand great
physical abuse, far more than a white or Asian cunt. Her thick hips
and big black ass beg to be beaten and pounded into the floor. If you
whup her good, she will respond instinctively. Her cunt will flood
with fuck juice, her nipples harden, her hips buck involuntarily. To
the black woman, physical abuse is foreplay. The harder you beat, the
better lover you will be in her mind. She expects you to fuck her fat
ass, too. That's what it's there for. If you do not master her ass,
she will consider you gay and find a lover who can "do her big black
butt right."
If you are dating a nigger ho', she will make a point of
"dissing" you in public with other men. If you're her black husband
or boyfriend, she will leave you hanging while she talks with some
white guy in a flashy suit. This is why the smart nigger stud pimps
out his ho' and deals her out like a piece of property. A close
nigger friend of mine uses his wife to get him lucrative vending
contracts. They'll go to a party, he'll point out a client, she'll go
over, and in less than an hour she's sucking cock in the bathroom.
Sometimes she'll service three to five men a night at her
pimp/husband's bidding - and she's a RESPECTABLE black woman.
If you're a white man dating a black woman, she will
invariably flirt with every nigger stud she sees. She does this in
order to intimidate you because the average white man is scared of the
"savage" black man. When the smart white man encounters this, he
merely turns his attention to any other ho' in the crowd. The black
woman will respond territorially to this ("Don't be fucking with MY
man!") and usually cause a scene. When this happens, drag her out in
the parking lot and beat her in front of some of her brothers. They
will laugh at her sorry black ass and respect you.
Gook Cunts:
Rape them while they're young and snuff them when they get
long-in-the-tooth. I think they should be sold in pet stores like
cats and dogs. Their bodies are somewhat delicate, which makes
fucking them hard especially pleasurable. I love the sensation of
their tiny, small-boned bodies feeling like they might break in two
every time I pound my cock into them with a ruthless down-thrust.
They squeal the nicest of all cunts, too, and the mixture of tears and
cum on their defiled faces is pure, living art.
The gook cunt is especially adept at worming her small,
delicate tongue up your asshole. She's like human toilet paper, and
you should use her as such. Whenever I go to an Asian "massage
parlor," I always ask for a nice thorough rim job, and they are always
eager to comply. Gook cunts are naturally submissive and enjoy sharp,
stinging pain such as needles, clothes pins and piercing. They also
respond well to bondage devices such as ball gags and intricately tied
restraints. The only downside with gook cunts is the tendency to
overestimate their capacity for abuse, thus inadvertently snuffing
them before you're completely done with them. Then you have to go to
the trouble of hunting down another one when you're hungry again an
hour later.
Curry and Sand-Nigger Cunts:
Subhuman dark-skinned beasts that ride a cock well, I
personally believe Indian and Arab cunts are the most overlooked,
underestimated fucking machines around. Granted, all that body hair
might turn off some guys, but I find it useful. You should hear them
squeal when you yank each short hair out by the roots. Lots of these
cunts will leave their families and become disowned for a chance at
marrying a white male and becoming Western or American. They will do
ANYTHING and withstand practically any depraved abuse for a chance at
"freedom."
Personally, I like defiling them when they are wearing all
their traditional outfits. I especially like when curry cunts have
those dots on their forehead. They make great targets for a
well-aimed cumshot. I also love when camel cunts wear all those veils
and coverings. Nothing is better than making some cunt who's been
conditioned to be ashamed of her body lose every stitch of clothing
and bare herself body and soul to you. Sometimes, just to be fun,
I'll mention a cunt's traditional family values while I'm fucking her,
saying something like: "What would your father say if he came in here
and saw my cock in your mouth .. or my dick up your asshole ..?" That
freaks them out, and makes them know how much they've given up just to
be with you and have a chance at Western "freedom." If you do this
subtly and frequently, the reinforcement conditions her to accept
almost any abuse you can dish out.
Kike cunts:
The Jewish American Princess (JAP) stereotype has a storied
tradition in the annals of cuntdom. The standard line on JAPs is that
they are frigid creatures with unlimited material greed and a
non-existent sex drive. In truth, this applies only to kike cunts
fucking Jewish men. For her own people, the kike cunt is everything
the stereotype implies. On the other hand, the outwardly frigid yid
cunt has an insatiable thirst for black cock unequalled in the cunt
kingdom. Several times I have been out with Jewish women, and
couldn't help but notice how their eyes followed the movements of
every black man present. One JAP cunt I know "slums" in some of our
city's seedier dance clubs. After a few drinks to loosen her up, she
will start coming on directly to any and all nigger studs she sees. A
short time later, she is dropping her panties for a herd of strange
black men lined up for gangbang train in the nightclub men's room.
Another kike cunt I know routinely calls repair services that
feature black repairmen. She then pays the studs for services
rendered .. out of hubby's checkbook, mind you. Many of these repair
services have taken to calling her seeing if she'd like a routine
"service inspection and cleaning." Preventive maintenance, you know.
My word to Jewish brothers out there -- Watch your kike cunts
closely. All the fire she's denying you in the bedroom she is
spreading upon someone else. I suggest catching her in the act, and
then exacting some suitable revenge. This makes any cuckholding worth
it, believe me.
Taco Cunts:
Hot-blooded, brown-skinned, trash-talking fuck toys, that's a
Spic cunt for you. I save them for last because I am thoroughly
convinced that of all colors in the cunt rainbow, the Taco Belle has
the highest threshold for pain, and the greatest penchant to endure
and crave abuse. A current lover of mine is a salsa cunt, and I have
abused her body to such an extent I sometimes fear she may report me
for rape. But the harder I whack her, the harder and more frequently
she cums. The other night, I was pile-driving her asshole and fisting
.. I mean punching .. her pussy all the way past my wrist. I kept her
in that position for like twenty-five minutes, until I thought she was
going to suffocate. She came instead, not once but three times in a
row. Not seepage either, but fucking geysers.
Like all minority cunts, the way to a salsa slut's snatch is
to flash some cash and promise her a ticket out of the barrio. When
you've convinced her you're the real deal, she'll let you do anything
to her as long as your relationship gives her what she craves, which
is respectability in the eyes of the White world. In their tiny bean
brains, dating another Hispanic or a Black makes them no better than a
nigger. Dating a white man, however, makes them white. Let them
think that, and you can beat their fat brown asses til they're black
and blue. The properly domesticated Latina fuckbeast will always suck
your cock like a schoolgirl with a crush.
Never trust her, though. A fatter wallet comes around, and
she'll be off in a heartbeat, taking everything you own with her to
boot. Taco Belles are notorious thieves with violent, "burning bed"
tempers. One salsa cunt I know once came at me with a frying pan
because she found out I'd fucked her little sister. Quickly gaining
control of the situation (I got the pan away from her, then whacked
her with it), I restrained her, fucked her up the ass, and then dumped
her in a cold shower (still bound) until her hot blood cooled down.
Several days later, I arranged a threesome with her and her sister,
and the three of us fucked regularly together for several months
afterward.
Young Cunts:
There should be no age of consent laws whatsoever. It is a
tragedy that the overwhelming majority of men will never know the
taste of truly fresh veal. On this subject, I have written and
published (underground, of course) "The Lolita Method," a "How To .."
treatise showing older men how they can fuck brainless young cunts.
The PREDATOR philosophy regarding young cunts is explained thoroughly
in this work, but I will touch on a few points here.
1) All men want to fuck young cunts. There is no exception to this
rule. Biologically we are predetermined to lust after the most tender
virgin cunts. When we deny this in ourselves, we become mentally ill
and a danger to ourselves. The reason I have not committed suicide by
now is probably because I imbibe in a steady diet of fresh young pussy
I acquire.
2) Young cunt is the BEST there is. Like with all food, the fresher
the cunt, the better. I prefer to call young cunts veal calves. I
feed them a steady diet of almost exclusively cum and keep them
sheltered from the world of prying adults for as long as possible.
3) The goal in fucking young cunts is soul rape. You want to leave
yourself indelibly imprinted on her feeble pea brain for the rest of
her pathetic lives. Your goal is utter domination and control, and
veal calves are the perfect prey in this respect because what you
visit upon their tender bodies they have never even conceived of
before. I gain no greater satisfaction in life than learning some
cunt I fucked back when she was a veal calf is now a "dancer," "whore"
or in some kind of "survivor" therapy. Veal cuntlets are also the
easiest cunts to dominate through behavior reform and mind control.
I've transformed suburban "church girls" into outcast, curb-crawling,
strawberry sluts. That, my friends, is a beautiful sight.
Queers and Queens:
This will probably come as a surprise to many, but I have
absolutely no problem with gays other than the fact that the thought
of fucking another guy makes me want to puke. Other than that, live
and let live. I know some leather boys that are serious PREDATORS,
and if their victims didn't have dicks I'd admire them. Prison is
probably the most predatory atmosphere on earth, and since those guys
are locked up I can't really fault them for boning some sissy white
boy up the ass. Not my cup of tea, but, hey, to each his own.
Dykes, Rug Munchers and Lipstick Lesbos:
There is no such thing as a lesbian. All cunts are bisexual.
Biologically, the original cells in all humans are female - FACT!
From this primitive state, males develop when the correct chromosome
pattern is encoded into the DNA make-up. This means that females are
not fully developed humans, whereas males are the pinnacle of human
evolution. Cunts are really little more evolved than animals, and for
the sake of all argument they really should be considered domesticated
beasts.
Now we all know that beasts - male and female - will fuck just
about anything or anyone if they are in heat. They are incapable of
rationally deciding who they WANT to fuck because WANTING something
denotes the ability to exercise WILL, and the ability to exercise WILL
is the primary element separating homo sapien man from the rest of the
animal kingdom.
Thus, it is only logical that the subhuman female fuck other
subhuman females when available, in much the same way a dog will hump
a sofa leg or your leg if aroused. The myth of lesbian sexuality is
that rug munchers actually experience any kind of emotional or
intellectual depth from their same sex relationships. Basically, to
feel fulfilled, a cunt needs one or more cocks stuffed inside her.
Bush bumpers can attempt to substitute rubber dildos for man-cock, but
it is merely a poor imitation. The problem is, cunts are so brain
dead that they have no idea that the experience of lesbian sex is
unfulfilling and unsatisfactory.
I compare this situation to eating hot dogs. I like hot dogs,
but they certainly are not the greatest food in the world. Yet, if
all I ate were hot dogs, I wouldn't know that filet mignon tastes a
hell of a lot better. But how do I then explain cunts who have turned
from sucking cock to eating cunt?
Many clit lickers have experienced hard cocks and still claim
that cunts are better "lovers." Note the word "lovers." The problem
here arises from the pussification of our society. Because the
predatory male allowed himself to be softened and pussified, he
accorded cunts the time and wherewithal to form silly, brainless
notions such as "love," "compassion" "tenderness" and "commitment"
that have no objective reality in the natural world in which we live.
How they formed these false ideals is simple.
Evolved man created the concept of "beauty," which is
basically just an aesthetical representation of sexual orgasm.
Because cunts are so stupid they cannot comprehend beauty, so they had
to approximate it with fabricated emotional states such as "love" et
al. Because men thought "love" etc. would inspire cunts to submit
themselves more readily, we allowed them to perpetuate the myth. We
got soft and went for the easy way out instead of keeping up with the
hunt.
Now, thousands of years later, we are paying for this. Women
think they "love" other women, and that other women "make love" to
them better than men. Of course, they do. Men do not "make love."
We rape. The satisfaction and fulfillment dykes share is shallow and
easily broken. I myself have brutally cured a total of ten "lesbians"
from the false path of cunt worship. I had to be dominant at first,
and they resisted, but ultimately they came to accept the truth of
their cuntdom. Of course, I let them fuck each other (animals will be
animals) when I am present to enjoy the beauty of their coupling, but
they have now been converted to worshipping the correct GOD - the male
cock.
All "lesbians" can be returned to the path if they are raped
relentlessly and brutally enough to make them follow their instincts
and descend back to their rightful place in the food chain. I will
explore "how" the predatory male can accomplish this monumental
mission in a series of stories, the first of which "Raped Rugmunchers"
was posted to this newsgroup several days ago.
Prostitution & "Dancers":
This is every man's right, to pay cunts for sex. There is
nothing shameful in this act if the male uses whores as mere disposal
fuck toys utilized for entertainment. The whore should never be
considered human. NO CUNT IS HUMAN, and THEY ARE ALL WHORES. The
professional whore is even lower on the evolutionary ladder, however.
I am always amazed when I hear stories of men falling in "love" with
whores or "dancers." Wake up, brothers! ALL WOMEN ARE CUNTS! When
you "fall in love," you immediately become female-dominated and
dickless.
I suggest verbally abusing whores as you fuck them. If your
money is green and long, they'll put up with it because THEY'RE
WHORES. The have no self-respect because THEY'RE CUNTS! So let
loose. They will take it, believe me.
"Dancers" - better known as whores who don't put out - are a
different story. DON'T GO TO STRIP CLUBS unless the dancers are
whores who put out. So-called respectable Gentlemen's Clubs are
bullshit rip-off fleece joints. When dancers are not forced to suck
cock in a back booth or out in the parking lot, they begin thinking
they are less than the cunt whores they truly are. When you go to the
local tit bar, dump a wad of cash, and get NOTHING in return but a
flash of nipple and some insincere, vacuous conversation YOU'VE JUST
BEEN TAKEN!
Pornography, Hardcore and Ultracore:
Here's where I stand on Porn vs. Hardcore vs. Ultracore.
Playboy is not porn. Penthouse is porn. Penthouse is not hardcore
and neither is Hustler or any of the various "Young Lust" girlie mags
with cunts in their twenties pretending to be 16. Private Magazine
and various European "little" mags are Hardcore. Your standard X-vid
is Hardcore, some harder than others. The hardest
commercially-produced Hardcore X-vids are the old, original Max
Hardcore titles like Cherry Poppers 1-7. Amateur tapes like the
JOY-FM (Just Open Your Fucking Mouth) series are excellent as well.
The best stuff is what you find from underground dealers, not
commercial adult bookstores. Underground dealers can be located by
searching the classifieds in your local newspapers, especially the
Free Entertainment weeklies in most major cities (you know, the ones
that run the escort ads). Some Euro-Trash porn is high quality, but
most sucks. Other series like Black Street Hookers occasionally
deliver, too. Some fun mainstream X-Vids are Seymour Butts, Dirty
Debutnates (the Jake Steed ones), Up-N'Cummers, & the Cum Brothers.
Most Bondage films suck because they cannot feature any sexual
penetration mixed with the fake torture. I mean what the fuck is the
point??? To get decent hardcore sex-bondage vids, check out the
classies in B&D/S&M trade publications. If you are looking for
Bestiality or Toilet Training vids, they are out there, but quality
and quantity is spotty. NYC is the only place I know of currently
where you can still buy a beast vid, although I understand even this
has become rare now that Times Square and environs have been cleaned
up. The best stuff is routinely posted online via usenet binaries
groups devoted to fetish topics.
Ultracore is a term I coined years back in the 80s when I was
freelance writing on the porn world. It refers to the so-called
outlaw porn world, the GOOD STUFF: rape videos, extreme beasty,
extreme sex-bondage, extreme kiddie porn and snuff. Currently, there
is no commercial market - aboveboard or underground - for these
enterprises in photographic or cinemagraphic (film or video) form.
Specialty newsgroups found on usenet contain many such images, jpgs
and mpgs, but posters are routinely busted or lay low after a brush
with Law Enforcement Agencies (LEA). So this is not always a reliable
means of acquiring what you need.
Currently, the only safe, legal outlet for ultracore porn is
the written word, and this has almost exclusively become the domain of
the online world. Aside from myself, I can list possibly a dozen
other good writers and freedom of speech terrorists who are committed
to bringing ultracore to the yearning masses. The desire is out
there, men just need to pay attention to their throbbing cocks and
take the chase up once again.
Bestiality:
We all want to see cunts get fucked by savage beasts. In a
human sense, this is why white men like to see diminutive white and
Asian cunts impaled by brutal nigger cocks or savaged by sadistic
spics, sand niggers or gooks. This predatory hunger is even greater,
though, when a cunt couples with real beasts of the field.
Unfortunately, the world of bestiality media - films, videos, books,
articles, and live entertainment - leaves much to be desired. I have
only seen a handful of decent beasty vids among the thousands I've
seen - most have only been short snatches I've caught in "specialty
newsgroup" postings.
If I have one desire in the world, it would be to see the
Bestiality Media assert itself by producing quality products. First,
I would also like to see more American white cunts sucking dog, horse
and donkey cock. I am sick of European, Spic and Third World beast
vids. Secondly, I would like to open up the mikes and listen to the
animalistic sounds of beast copulating with cunt. I want to hear the
snorts, squeals and screams of pain as some cunt catches a Great
Dane's knot and suffers helplessly as he rips her cunt to shreds in an
effort to pull free. One particularly riveting beats vid showed a
knotted cunt being dragged across the floor for about twenty straight
minutes by the frustrated Mastiff star. She was not enjoying herself
one bit, and was begging the director to hose the dog down. He told
her he just needed to get a few more shots and to relax.
Unfortunately, the vid was German or Dutch, and I could only follow
the dialogue with my high school Deutsch. Third, we need more huge
horse cocks choke fucking stupid cunts.
Snuff Films:
Face it, this is the Holy Grail of Misogyny, the stuff of
Ultimate Bliss. To see a cunt beaten, raped, forced to perform
depraved sexual acts in order to live, and then snuffed anyway is the
greatest thrill known to the predatory male. Snuff films, however,
live in two separate worlds.
There is of course the reality of the snuff film. Oh, how I
wish I could have been alongside my Serbian brothers as they
"ethnically cleansed" a village of Bosnian cunts. Videotaped mass
rapes and snuffs must have been Paradise on Earth. Other true-life
snuff heroes have been serial killers Leonard Lake and Charles Ng, and
of course the king, Paul Bernardo. Prototype snuff serial killers Ian
Brady and Myra Hindley, the so-called Moors Murderers, audio-taped
their cunt victims' last precious squeals.
As opposed to real "snuff," Hollywood and the liberal
femi-nazi media have created the "snuff industry." This is total
bullshit!! There is no reliable traffic in underground commercial
snuff worldwide. They want you to believe there is so they can crack
down even more on your freedoms as a predatory male. This they create
movies like Hardcore, 52 Pick-Up, 8mm, and write bullshit "true crime"
novels like Yaron Svoray's "Gods of Death." So-called feminist
"experts" on snuff lecture to cunt-filled audiences promulgating the
myth that a real, underground commercial snuff trade exists, and that
men can get the stuff "anywhere" if they really want to.
Too bad the femi-nazi cunts aren't right this time. I'd love
to be able to pick up some quality snuff. Oh well, there's always the
future.
Afterthoughts:
I hope this little essay has made you consider some things,
namely your place in the natural order as a predatory male. I am
always happy to discuss, debate or further develop anything I write.
Please contact me via e-mail at PR...@altavista.net or by posting a
message on alt.sex.stories or alt.tasteless.
Ed Infinitum
Lenore Levine
>...When I read this absurd argument, I always chuckle. Of course
>it pertains to them. All women are brainless cunts who, if left to
>their own designs, would make this planet as uninhabitable. We may as
>well let cute little bunny rabbits run amok without the benefit of
>predatory thinning. For this reason, all cunts must be subjugated and
>live forever "in their place." My perspective is not a question of
>male versus female, it is a question of the symbiosis of PREDATOR and
>prey. Cunts are dumber, slower, weaker, more emotional, less rational
>.. in other words inferior to the predatory male. Thus, it is only
>fitting they assume the role of prey.
<Predator's "wisdom" deleted.>
This guy may be a few meds short of a prescription, but he
sure can write a tasteless story. I do hope he visits us
again.
Just one request, uhm, fringies. If this guy gets busted for
assaulting women and the police use his stories as evidence,
please don't solicit money for his defense by saying he's a
martyr to free speech.
Lenore "The same thing could happen to all of us?!? Oh, bite
me..." Levine
--
"Anything that purports to be dangerous or alternative loses any such
claim when the first plush-doll merchandising appears." -- James Kew
pr...@altavista.net
Levine) wrote:
>This guy may be a few meds short of a prescription, but he
>sure can write a tasteless story. I do hope he visits us
>again.
Lenore, please feel free to check out "The Tiny Toy" just
posted on a.s.s. I believe it may also suit your taste(less)s.
>
>Just one request, uhm, fringies. If this guy gets busted for
>assaulting women and the police use his stories as evidence,
>please don't solicit money for his defense by saying he's a
>martyr to free speech.
Ironically, one ASS reg believes I am not a budding Bundy, but
rather a narc with an agenda, writing horrfic fic in order to lure
lurkers into my web of entrapment. Why won't anyone just believe I'm
a simple writer excercising my right of free speech? BTW, I don't
assault women. That would require actually having to interact with
human beings, a most distasteful proposition. Misanthropists make
horrible rapists and serial killers. All that whining .. who needs
it.
pr...@altavista.net
(Acetylcholinesterase Inhibitor) wrote:
>Well, I didn't see anything about clubbing baby seals to death, but it
>seems to have included every other non-PC idea that exists.
Much like Hitler, I love animals. We should hunt people
instead. And no, they don't taste like chicken .. really ...
>
>Too bad he's so phallocentric. Like Sade, in his later days, he may
>come to write a paean on *female* predation as well.
Phallocentric? Not really. I just detest weakness. Females
happen to be weak. Thus they are natural prey. I am phallocentric
the way a lion is leoninocentric (sp? word?).
pr...@altavista.net
(Acetylcholinesterase Inhibitor) wrote:
>
>Oh, my dear! You really *should* read "Juliette". You're only
>starting to understand the ways that the weak can be destroyed.
>
I devoured the complete works of De Sade whilst in the 7th
Grade .. all of them unexpurgated (public libraries are a wonderful
thing). I periodically reread the books as Scripture. Juliette is a
masterpiece of fiction with little equal. If you would read my work,
you will see many predatory females presented throughout, often
humiliating and sadistically torturing weak males and weaker females.
My work is not so one-dimensional as my detractors paint it to be (the
same goes for my infamous racial sadism).
The predatory female is an intense fantasy of mine. I have
yet to truly meet one in the flesh, though, that is a true equal
worthy of the dinstinction. The female is corrupted with empathy,
which ultimately renders her weak. Even the tabloid "queens of mean"
-- Eileen Wourmos, Myra Hindley, Pamela Smart, etc. -- are little more
than violent shrews with neither the panache nor the sheer brutality
to strike fear and fascination into the hearts of humanity. Perhaps
evolution may one day spawn a female Paul Bernardo, Leonard Lake or
Jeffrey Dahmer. Until then, however, they remain exclusively within
the genius of De Sade and my own humble offerings.
If you would like to see my take of female predators, I might
suggest perusing the recent flood I am posting alt.sex.stories,
especially the Nick Bent stories. "Sudden Death" is my homage to 120
Days of Sodom, and female predation is the major theme . Alas, my
meager efforts can only hope to offer but pale shadows of what De Sade
wrought in pure, unearthly perfection. IOW, I know my roots all too
well, and I pay homage to them repeatedly.
pred
pr...@altavista.net
(Acetylcholinesterase Inhibitor) wrote:
>Hey, how about giving us "The Lolita Manifesto" also?
>
The Lolita Method will be posted here after I complete my
flood on a.s.s. It is rather long and takes the form of a self-help
book for pedophiles and hebephiles. It has been circulating
underground in printed form for almost ten years now, but I have
recently been revising and updating it. Would you prefer it in its
entirety or excerpted?
pred
Rev. Syd Midnight
>
> Ah! I had feared that you were merely a more intense form of the
> garden-variety misogynist (much like the early Sade). Not that
> misogyny isn't tasteless, but it's so *ordinary* that the foulness is
> largely bleached out, much like garden-variety racism. But now I
> understand that you do not mistakenly identify strength and weakness
> with gender, and I applaud your labors for the benefit of The Wretched
> (as some genius recently called us).
As a member of clergy, concerned with the moral being of the earth, I
have sent a letter of Congratulations to Mr. Predator. It has been years
since I have read such evil, foul literature, and that certainly was a
breath of fresh air (so to speak) in AT, where fiction is rare and
usually of extremely poor quality.
When first reading Predators work, I was at first reminded of the
style of Dr. Gareth Twentyman. But prolonged reading made it clear that
while the two may share a genuine talent for tasteless literature,
Predators fiction is laser-focused in its hatred and malevolence,
straight and with a clear picture of evil, with gore and humor being a
subtle undertone as opposed to Dr. Twentymans' glorious orgies of
surreallity and well diffused "Hate'em all" philosophy (which works well
in practice, so try it).
Although Predator is native of alt.sex.stories, I'm hoping that he can
achieve a meteoric stardom here in AT as well, without dragging too many
ASS freaks to AT. Yup, it's been a LOOOOOONG time since a story, much
less a sex story, has haunted me for days and days.
ObT: Pets can be a bummer. My one sister had a pet baby rat... you
have to raise them from infant age to insure that they're well behaved.
Young adult rat gets loose in the room. Sister is looking everywhere for
it, and suddenly feels a squishy crunch and hears a sharp squeak. Yep.
I was elected to dispose of the thing, and its eyes were bulging
unnaturally out, but the thing that caught my attention was the several
inches of intestine that had prolapsed and shot out of its ass when my
sister stepped on it.
Although huge pets may be inherently physically more tasteless, tiny
pets are unparalleled in the ways, numbers, and creativity with which
they die.
ObT2: Creative parakeet deaths of mine (a partial list):
a) Choked to death on ethyl ether.
b) Death by cigarette smoke poisoning
c) Choked on own puke, like Jimi Hendrix (2)
d) Tylenol overdose (2)
e) Antihistamine overdose (2)
f) It bit me hard, so I flicked its head and it's brain hemorrhaged
and it's eyes popped out on their stalks, it was deaf and blind so I had
to waste it.
g) Just dropped dead out of nowhere, like birds usually do (6)
h) Bled to death after losing a fight.
i) Bashed head into window (2)*
j) My evil elf friend stuck a bumblebee in its face, and it bit it
and was stunk in the head. It survived, but 2 days later the exact same
incident occurred, fatal this time.
k) Strangled by my evil elven friend (see above) (2)**
* = One was a sparrow, and it actually caught its head in a door jamb.
** = One was a grackle, not a pet, but she kept letting it breathe,
then strangling it again until it passed out, over and over, until her
saurian torture proved too much for its little heart, so it kinda
counts.
--
Rev. Syd Midnight - Remove TREET from my address to reply
"If this isn't the sickest, most inhuman piece of filth you've ever
witnessed I'll personally refund you...."
-- The Predator
pr...@altavista.net
<sydT...@nls.net> wrote:
> As a member of clergy, concerned with the moral being of the earth, I
>have sent a letter of Congratulations to Mr. Predator. It has been years
>since I have read such evil, foul literature, and that certainly was a
>breath of fresh air (so to speak) in AT, where fiction is rare and
>usually of extremely poor quality.
Amid my recent flood on ASS, I have been considering
cross-posting my library here for your perusal. However, I hate
cross-posts (the refuge of trolls and spammers), so am somewhat
reluctant to become what I despise. Virtually my entire archive of
WhitmanSampler and PRED stories have been posted to ASS over the last
few days, with only my Northlake, USA series left to re-edit and
re-post. Anyone curious can find them there (usually Dejanews is the
best resource). Note - don't be fooled by the celebrity stories.
This is not "vanilla" slash. I am the only celeb author (that I know
of) to ever be harrassed by lawyers and LEA (US, canadian & British)
for my work (as a result of my Nick Bent stories featuring teenage
athletes). This is not a boast, I just woudn't want any of you to
miss a good story because it has Brandy in it.
As a new voice here, I am hesitant to produce such a deluge
and prompt a post-diluvian backlash. I've already agreed to post the
Lolita Method (my self-help book for pedophiles and hebephiles) and
shall be doing so when time permits in the next several weeks. I just
don't know if the collective insanity of ATreally desires a flood of
"tatseless" fiction. Let me know, please.
Your humble scourge
PRED
Felis Concolor
(a suggestion to "Predator"):
>Load the stories up on a web server and post the HURL. Then nobody
>can complain that they've missed them, or that they've been deluged by
>a tard from ASS.
Yes. And maybe he could also post one of his uhm, best stories as
a sample.
May I suggest "The Tiny Toy"? It's most inspirational.
Ugh...
Felis Concolor
--
"You need to be sent to the showers. Too bad your ancestors
got away." -- Tim May
pr...@altavista.net
wrote:
>
>Yes. And maybe he could also post one of his uhm, best stories as
>a sample.
>
>May I suggest "The Tiny Toy"? It's most inspirational.
>
when I spun that whimsical little bodice ripper. I felt I may have
been ripping off LaVeryl Spencer a bit, however. I seem to remember
her spinning a similar romantic theme at sometime .. or was it Sandra
Brown? I just recall Fabio was on the cover. I'll repost the TOY
here so everyone can judge for themselves.
pred <tongue planted firmly in cheek>
Mike Kelley
wrote:
>wor...@dworley.ne.mediaone.net (Acetylcholinesterase Inhibitor) writes
>(a suggestion to "Predator"):
>
>>Load the stories up on a web server and post the HURL. Then nobody
>>can complain that they've missed them, or that they've been deluged by
>>a tard from ASS.
>
>Yes. And maybe he could also post one of his uhm, best stories as
>a sample.
>
>May I suggest "The Tiny Toy"? It's most inspirational.
>
I have the perfect place for these stories too.
Actually, it would make a great spot for any AT'r to post stories and
photographs.
Click on the link and you'll understand.
http://homes.acmecity.com/rosie
ObT: Rosie O'Donnel's Chub Club
A.Lizard
It would indeed, since apparently, nobody at the Rosie
O'tub-o-lard organization bothers to check these sites... I
checked under "guns" as a search term, I would guess that of the
7109 pages referred to, 6000+ are from people who detest both
O'blimp and gun control.
Knackos is invited to go there and debate all of these Rosie site
owners.
A.Lizard
ob.tasteless... I suspect that "Rosie" would find the thousands
of pro-gun sites on rosie.acmecity.com even more offensive than
*any* romantic fiction Predator might post there.
>ObT: Rosie O'Donnel's Chub Club
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pr...@altavista.net
wrote:
>A.Lizard
>ob.tasteless... I suspect that "Rosie" would find the thousands
>of pro-gun sites on rosie.acmecity.com even more offensive than
>*any* romantic fiction Predator might post there.
That would be an interesting experiment. Hmmm
PRED
That fat fuck pig, Rosie, will get hers. MARK MY WORDS!
Lenore Levine
>That fat fuck pig, Rosie, will get hers. MARK MY WORDS!
In honor of the alt.tasteless national bird, I hope he'll cover
Kathie Lee Gifford first.
ObT: You mean the idea of what "pred" would do with Ms. Gifford
isn't enough?
OK. Have you ever heard about "feeders"? Those are men who have
a fetish for erotic weight gain. They get involved with a very
fat woman and feed her till she's immobile. This fetish is
supposedly consensual, but often ends with the death of the
feedee.
In any case, I think this aberration would make an ideal story
theme for Predator. After all, it would go well with the tale
in which he mindfucks a girl into anorexia -- just like a set
of matched bookends. How cute.
However, if "pred" is going to do this, I recommend he research
the literature first. There are some details too sick for even
him to come up with.
Lenore Levine
Mike Kelley
Levine) wrote:
>pr...@altavista.net writes:
>
>>That fat fuck pig, Rosie, will get hers. MARK MY WORDS!
>
>In honor of the alt.tasteless national bird, I hope he'll cover
>Kathie Lee Gifford first.
>
>ObT: You mean the idea of what "pred" would do with Ms. Gifford
>isn't enough?
>
>OK. Have you ever heard about "feeders"? Those are men who have
>a fetish for erotic weight gain. They get involved with a very
>fat woman and feed her till she's immobile. This fetish is
>supposedly consensual, but often ends with the death of the
>feedee.
Hmm. So they eat a lot of Ruebenesque Sandwiches?
I seem to recall reading about an island of the coast of New Zealand
or New Guinea where the obese are considered desirable and the
super-model figure, detestable.
The inhabitants of this island are native south-pacific folks. The
person who was the President of this country was 350#'s when the
article was written. He's probably dead by now.
ObT: Owning the Port-a-John franchise on that island during one of
their national holidays.
ObT(2): Being downwind of the warm south pacific breeze passing over
the crowd as they participate in the National Pig roast.
pr...@altavista.net
Levine) wrote:
>In honor of the alt.tasteless national bird, I hope he'll cover
>Kathie Lee Gifford first.
THEY SHALL BOTH FEEL MY WRATH! And Jenny Jones, and Rikki
Lake, and Oprah, and Sally Jesse, and your little dog, TOOOOOO ...
>ObT: You mean the idea of what "pred" would do with Ms. Gifford
>isn't enough?
I also hunger for her two mongoloid children, Cody and Cassidy
(is that the daughter's name? sp?). I must rest and scheme, rest and
scheme.
>
>OK. Have you ever heard about "feeders"?
>In any case, I think this aberration would make an ideal story
>theme for Predator. After all, it would go well with the tale
>in which he mindfucks a girl into anorexia -- just like a set
>of matched bookends. How cute.
>
How have you read my mind? The "Tattooed Pig" story I have
planned for the Lakeside Trilogy was going to cover just this sensual
scenario. The girl Jayme, introduced in Tiny Toy, is in for the
"romance of her life" after the narrator finishes with Cancer Girl and
the Anorexic. I am absolutely flabbergasted that you somehow seemed
to anticipate this twist. I thought I had a lock on the one
dehumanizing depravity that no one had even considered. Just don't
tell anyone on ASS. I so love their shock and dismay .. and the
resultant death threats.
>However, if "pred" is going to do this, I recommend he research
>the literature first. There are some details too sick for even
>him to come up with.
>
Done. As you may be able to tell, I thoroughly research all
my subject matter. That is what scares the hell out of all the
yokels.
pred
Who is more than a little fascinated by Lady Lenore
pr...@altavista.net
wrote:
>
> Hmm. So they eat a lot of Ruebenesque Sandwiches?
Ba-da-boom!
LINCARD 1000
# THEY SHALL BOTH FEEL MY WRATH! And Jenny Jones, and Rikki
#Lake, and Oprah, and Sally Jesse, and your little dog, TOOOOOO ...
You're a bit of a concern, Mr Pred. I hadn't picked you as one of the
heterosexually challenged.... Actually, along such lines, a request:
Have you got any stories there hidden away on debauched and
unwholesome activities between men? I await with baited breath
[breath that would scare a dentist half to death, but I digress...]
ObDomestic&Tragic: The ST and myself were perusing the local "Home &
Garden Expo" [shut up, I know what you're all thinking]. All the
usual bullshit exhibits and one or two more interesting ideas [boring
and house related]... But lo! Of all the sad loser gits - I was being
cruised! Good glub man, can you believe that? At a fucking Home and
bloody garden expo, I was being cruised by some guy??? Unbelievable.
How sad do you have to be to try and find sex at a home and garden
expo.
Hmmm..... He wasn't that bad looking tho...
LINCARD "domesticated faggot" 1000
-----
(4) HAZMAT teams are highly trained professionals,
not "glow worms."
pr...@altavista.net
<lin...@spamilingus.fuckyou.co.uk> wrote:
>You're a bit of a concern, Mr Pred. I hadn't picked you as one of the
>heterosexually challenged....
Actually, I'm more heterosexually unchallenged. Hence my
debauches.
>Actually, along such lines, a request:
>Have you got any stories there hidden away on debauched and
>unwholesome activities between men? I await with baited breath
>
My work is sprinkled with such dalliances. "Topanga Goes
Black," & "Soft Tacos" immediately spring to mind, but there have been
more. I killed Elton John by some extreme homoerotic measures in
Sudden Death, not because he was gay, mind you, but because I FUCKING
HATED THAT PRINCESS DIANA song. My latest story -- Christina
Applegate: Sacrificial Lamb -- has a strong homosexual undercurrent in
the last scene.
My old friend Marbles (RIP) was an original ultracore mentor
of mine. You may heave heard of him. His series "Bitch Boy" was a
classic in the homoerotic/prison genre and my original inspiration.
In fact, my collection of ultracore contains a vast amount of
male/male lit, precisely because I learned to write the genre from gay
hardcore. Gay writers have never respected the "rules" regarding porn
that hamper the excesses in hetero writing. Brutality, rape,
dehumanization and extreme sadism have always been key elements in
great gay hardcore. Also the theme of the unwilling "straight" who
suddenly gets "bent." Read my work, and you'll see these themes
explored relentlessly with different variations. My mission in life
is to introduce to the hetero world what the gay world has known all
along -- that there is a deep connection between our animal natures,
i.e. sex and violence
Unfortunately, I haven't written any specifically gay stories
yet - male or female. I include male/male & female/female scenes
because I find them fascinating and rich with opportunity to explore
victimization and dehumanization. I have constantly begged gay &
lesbian authors to step forward on ASS and start posting ultracore
fiction. The stuff is so prevalent within the various gay subcultures
that I am distressed it has no audible voice outside the bounds of a
limited, fortunate few. A lily-white, vanilla FORUM like ASS needs
such a writer to shock its complacency. I believe this writer should
be gay and sincerely committed to FREDOM OF SPEECH, not some hetero
(like me) who (I am afraid) would be writing merely for the shock
value.
I hope this answers your question. I do think about this
issue a lot.
PRED
Pinhead the Cenobite
Levine) wrote:
>pr...@altavista.net writes:
>
>>That fat fuck pig, Rosie, will get hers. MARK MY WORDS!
>
>In honor of the alt.tasteless national bird, I hope he'll cover
>Kathie Lee Gifford first.
>
>ObT: You mean the idea of what "pred" would do with Ms. Gifford
>isn't enough?
>
>OK. Have you ever heard about "feeders"? Those are men who have
>a fetish for erotic weight gain. They get involved with a very
>fat woman and feed her till she's immobile. This fetish is
>supposedly consensual, but often ends with the death of the
>feedee.
>
>In any case, I think this aberration would make an ideal story
>theme for Predator.
>However, if "pred" is going to do this, I recommend he research
>the literature first. There are some details too sick for even
>him to come up with.
I don't usually provide this kind of research material in a.t. To me,
it's tasteless content, per se, is somewhat borderline, but if it
would get Pred started on the way to some good "PredCeleb" tales, then
it's worth the risk of posting it. Hell, back in her "Exit Fom Eden"
days, I woulda done 'er in an NY minnit, so it'd be interesting to see
what perverted, sick twists could be added to the ponderings.
Well, here it is. Enjoy.
Everything You (N)Ever Wanted To Know About Feederism
(And Didn't Even Know You Should Ask)
Hanne Blank, 1999
All Rights Reserved
I was a chubby little kid of eleven or twelve when it was first
brought to my attention that fat people could be sexually desirable.
My mother and I were watching a TV movie version of Rilke's "All Quiet
On The Western Front." In it, there was a scene in which several
soldiers were woolgathering about what they were going to do once the
war ended. "I'm going to find a woman," one soldier said (I'm
paraphrasing from memory here), "a big, fat woman, like a goosedown
bed!"
Being at that age where I was just beginning to be curious about boys,
I was amazed at and intrigued by the notion that someone might really
be interested in what it seemed I was destined to become -- a fat
woman. When asked, my mother confirmed that yes, some men were "into
that sort of thing."
Mom, bless her short and slender heart, was right. To my continued
delight, there are men (and women) who are intrigued, enchanted,
aroused, and gratified by big, voluptuous bodies ranging from slightly
plush to downright party-sized. While not everyone who is attracted to
fatter people is attracted to the fatness per se (some attractions
happen, as always, for other reasons), there are those who consider
themselves to be Fat Admirers, referred to in the "fat world" as FAs.
As if the notion of Fat Admirers isn't enough of a mental leap for
people who are immured in the mindset that only thin bodies are
attractive, it may come as a disturbing shock to learn that there are
also people on the extreme edge of the Fat Admirer subculture who are
not only attracted to fat partners, but for whom it is extremely
erotically exciting to feed a partner so that she or he gains weight.
This is precisely the sexual dynamic of one of the most hidden and
unsettling sexual fetishes around: the feeder/feedee (also sometimes
referred to as encourager/gainer) relationship, or feederism.
Feederism disturbs the hell out of me, too, but not for the reasons
you're probably thinking. After all, I don't think that fatness, per
se, is a necessarily bad thing. Still, purely as a form of fetishism,
feederism has the potential to transgress bodily and social taboos in
such a way as to appall even the most normally unflappable,
been-everywhere-done-everyone roué.
Let's face it, we have become jaded by the usual fetishes. As
over-the-top as it may have appeared ten years ago, today you can find
a BDSM toy store or a place to get your nay-nays pierced in just about
any college town, and the worst thing that could happen to you if you
ventured out of the house in a locked leather slave collar is that
someone might mistake you for a punk rocker. Social attitudes about
body size and weight, on the other hand are still so rigid and so
vehemently policed that it is still taken for granted not only that no
one in his or her right mind would want to become fat and that only a
few strange individuals find fat people at all attractive, but that
certainly no one would be sick enough to get off on someone else
gaining weight.
For these reasons and several more, feederism as a sexual practice has
its own very insular underground subculture, with its own websites,
web ring, 'zines, videos, and an enormous cache of feeder porn
stories. However, to many people and even within the growing fat
acceptance and size diversity movement, feederism is considered mostly
to be beyond the limits of acceptability, and for many good reasons.
In the broadest sort of way, a feeder/feedee relationship can be
characterized as any relationship between two people in which one
partner gets erotic satisfaction from feeding his or her partner,
whether feeding by hand or simply providing food, so that the partner
gains weight and becomes fatter. The weight gain may be quite small,
and the weight might then be lost again before deliberately regaining
it, a fetish version of "yo-yo dieting." More often, the weight gain
is pursued either to a predetermined goal weight or simply until the
feedee's metabolism refuses to permit him or her to gain any more
weight, a weight which will vary by individual.
Some feeders (not all, and it's impossible to give any accurate
statistics given the covert nature of the fetish) want their feedees
to become immobilized by their fat, so that they have to be worshipped
and served, but also so that they are completely available for erotic
contemplation and/or sexual activity. Other feeders have more worldly
goals in mind, such as that their partner reach a world record or
merely gain enough to join one of the exclusive groups in the
weight-gain fetish world, such as the so-called "500 Club," whose
members are women who weigh 500 pounds or more. It is presumed that in
a wholly consensual feeder/feedee relationship, the weight-gaining
partner would also derive satisfaction or pleasure from being fed and
from gaining weight.
Those are the basics. From here on out it gets sticky. Real sticky,
the degree of sticky that normally involves toddlers and Popsicles.
Because of the high social, personal, and professional liability that
goes along with being fat to any degree - liabilities, I might add,
with which many of us live every day of our lives, though we are in no
way connected with feederism but are merely fat - and the physical and
health liabilities associated with extreme weight gain, feeder/feedee
relationships are extraordinarily risky in a variety of ways.
Not only is there the basic risk that all practitioners of kink share,
that of being ostracized or shut out from one's family and community
because one engages in marginalized sexual practices, but a feedee may
also be isolated and made dangerously dependent by the simple fact of
becoming fatter. The more extreme a feedee's fatness becomes,
particularly as he or she gains enough to become physically less
mobile or in fact immobilized, the higher the risk that he or she will
lose social, professional, and personal contacts. Family members may
decide that the person is "too far gone" or may simply be too repulsed
by the feedee's fatness to be able to provide friendship or, in the
event that things go bad in the relationship, support and aid. As a
feedee becomes larger and larger, it may become harder and harder for
him or her to hold down a job. In some cases, feedees have become
virtual prisoners of their feeder partners, cut off from their social
network, unable to find work (whether for social reasons of
nonacceptance, because of physical difficulties, or both), and ended
up in truly compromised positions, unable to leave if and when they
might've desired to do so.
Other risks of feederism are physical and health-related. Extreme
weight gain, particularly if the person isn't getting much or any
exercise, can cause some serious problems. Muscle atrophy combined
with weight gain is not a promising combination. Add that to the
increased risk of problems like cellulitis (a type of deep tissue
infection that can be easily fatal), Type II diabetes, pulmonary
problems, and other ailments like bedsores, circulatory problems, or
infections caused by difficulty in maintaining adequate hygiene, and
you have a fairly considerable potential for a feedee to become
physically ill or to suffer from compromised health. In some cases,
due to complications from these and similar conditions, feedees have
in fact died. The risk of serious illness and/or death is not an
acceptable risk for any kind of sexual or erotic lifestyle or activity
- long-term damage, disabling illness, and/or death are not reasonable
prices to pay for anybody's sexual turn-on.
Opponents of feederism often point to these health risks as their
primary reasons for rejecting feederism as a practice, but there are
many other factors which make feederism such a troublesome fetish in
practice. The plain truth is that often, feeders have been quite
predatory in finding, or should I say "acquiring," since a part of
much hard-core feederism is the objectification of the fat person as a
fetish object, people who become their feedees.
It should come as no great revelation to anyone that fat people, and
perhaps particularly fat women, are routinely oppressed in our
society. It should also be no surprise that one of the ways in which
we are most painfully dragged down is by being told that we will never
find love, or have anyone be attracted to us, because of our size or
weight. The fear of being unacceptable or unlovable is largely what
drives the $40 billion (yes, that's billion, with a B) a year weight
loss industry, a fact which might shed some light on why a fat woman
might be so grateful to be accepted and loved by a partner that she
might not think to question why that partner was encouraging her to
gain more weight.
To be loved, to get what she (or he) has been told she would never
have and did not in fact deserve to have, since she or he was fat, a
fat person might be willing to gain weight. Being a feedee might well
become acceptable, if the alternative seemed to be losing love and
acceptance. It's well known that people of all sizes will sometimes
cling to unhealthy relationships in order not to lose a partner,
especially if they have a poor self-image and think themselves
unlovable and despair of ever finding another one. A fat person who
has been taught all his or her life that he or she was disgusting and
physically undesirable might even find a feeder's erotic interest so
gratifying that he or she becomes a willing feedee simply in order to
enjoy the unaccustomed, almost forbidden pleasure of having someone
find him or her overtly sexy. (Note for further reading: noted Fat
Admirer, writer, and size-acceptance activist Yohannon has written a
highly opinionated and unapologetic essay concerning feederism which
may be found at http://www.rotunda.com/people/yohannon/no_feeders.html
)
What this means in practical terms is that it is extremely difficult
to determine meaningful consent on the part of the feedee in a feeder
relationship. As the articulate underground fat porn star Teighlor has
written in an editorial, "Feederism is a practice that, more often
than not, relies heavily on the feedee's emotional dependence on the
feeder to gain their cooperation." (see:
http://www.geocities.com/Hollywood/Academy/6542/edit1121.html)
Even if a feedee consents to gaining weight for a partner, the
question remains whether that genuinely wishes to gain the weight for
his or her own reasons (erotic or otherwise), or whether he or she is
doing it in order to be accepted, to be loved, not to lose a lover, or
because he or she has been bullied into doing it in a "prove your
love" or "if you loved me you would" scenario. A feeder who proceeds
to feed a partner or encourage him or her to gain weight without
obtaining a full and meaningful consent is, in my admittedly biased
eyes, not unlike a rapist, and possibly not unlike a murderer.
I say this with the intent to alarm. Feederism is so little-known, and
the dynamics and potential risks of these relationships so well
hidden, that I think a bit of reasonable alarm is fully justified.
This is particularly true in light of the fact that, historically,
many feeders are not open and honest about their fetish and do not
identify themselves as feeders to their partners, a practice which I
hope is changing as the Web and email offer and encourage more and
more communication amongst feeders and between feeders and the larger
community of fat people.
Given the dominant/submissive dynamics inherent in the feeder/feedee
relationship, as well as the nontraditional, fetishized focus of its
eroticism, I find it only suitable to think of feeder/feedee
relationships as a type of BDSM. In including feederism under the
rubric of BDSM, we can simultaneously validate the eroticism of the
fetish - which I think is very powerful and very real to those who
feel it - and also acknowledge that it is a non-mainstream sexual
practice which includes some potentially dangerous, or at least
life-altering, elements.
By bringing feederism out of the closet and into the broader world of
kink, more and more people will be aware both of feederism's existence
and its potential pitfalls. Many feeders dislike this idea, feeling
that calling feeding part of BDSM implies a type of sexuality -
prototypical "leather-" or "bondage-" oriented sexuality - that they
don't feel they practice. However, I think that only people who
practice feeding in a less-than-upfront manner, capitalizing on the
fact that most people will be ignorant of the fetish and what it may
mean, have anything to lose by being honest and acknowledging
feederism as a form of dominant/submissive sexuality. Feeders who
maintain their relationships in a totally consensual and honest way,
who don't and never have resorted to using emotional dependency to
engineer their sexual satisfaction, don't lose out when their partners
know about their fetishes, because they've always tried to explain
them fully in order to be sure that their partners knew what their
fetish meant to them.
It's patently impossible for anyone to give meaningful consent in
ignorance of the facts. This is true of any sexual relationship, but
is even more important in any relationship in which the sexuality in
which one partner wishes to engage has a real potential for causing
serious and long-term damage. Simply put, just as it's ethically
indefensible to force sex on someone who doesn't want it or who is
unable to resist it (for reasons of youth, disability, etc.), it is
ethically indefensible to push any potentially harmful sexual
practice, even as one as seemingly nonsexual to many as encouraging
weight gain, without their explicit awareness and consent.
Given the fact that being even moderately fat exposes one to so much
institutionalized prejudice and so many individual attacks, to induce
a person to become fatter without their explicit understanding is a
truly abusive thing to do. Doing so to a person who is fat to begin
with and who therefore is fairly likely to have a damaged sexual
self-esteem (and thus be more likely to agree to suggestions in order
to be accepted, desired, or loved) is predatory. When you factor in
the physical risks, and then remember that anyone who gains a
significant amount of weight is highly unlikely to be able to lose it
again (95% of the people who lose weight on diets gain it back within
3 years, according to the International Journal of Obesity, and the
notoriously conservative National Institutes of Health give diets in
general a 90% failure rate), the feeder/feedee relationship is not
something that should be entered into unawares.
I want to be sure to point out that not all Fat Admirers are feeders,
just as not all fat people are (or should be) feedees. As a website
devoted to feeder/feedee relationships points out, in response to the
question of whether FAs and BBWs (Big Beautiful Women) and their gay
community equivalents, chubs and chasers, are the same as, or
congruent with, the population of feeders and feedees:
NO. The Gainer/Encourager group is more intense, more focused on fat
and gaining weight rather than the person as a whole. The FA's and
Chubs/Chasers seem to be more into acceptance and it seems to be a
light preference rather than a fetish type thing. I seriously doubt
that many Chubs or BBW would be interested in becoming even bigger.
(see:
http://www.geocities.com/WestHollywood/Village/1905/definitions.html)
The vast majority of people who are sexually interested in fat people
are not feeders. It would be a mistake to assume that they are. By the
same token, however, it's foolish to assume that anyone with whom one
becomes involved automatically always has one's best interests at
heart. As with so many other potentially risky situations, caveat
emptor.
Additionally, though I said above that I do want to cause a little bit
of alarm with this particular column, I don't want to cause undue
fear. Not all feeders are out to push their partners to gain weight.
I've enjoyed several meals with self-proclaimed feeders who were
genuinely charming, thoughtful, sensible people who took a great deal
of delight in the meals we shared. Many feeders realized that their
weight-gain fantasies were probably best left in the realm of fantasy
for their partners' sake, but they still really enjoyed the sensuality
and eroticism of being with fat women, eating with them, and watching
them eat.
On his website, one self-identified weight-gain/feeder fetishist
writes:
"My woman will always have control of her body. I would never force
her to do anything. If she wants to lose some weight, so be it. The
idea of her getting softer doesn't imply that she has to gain 100+
pounds. However, it would be cool to watch her get too big for some of
her clothes-and like it! I'd love to see her flaunt it, and enjoy
watching my reaction. "Am I looking to start such a relationship with
a woman who is already supersized? No. Am I out to fatten up a
presently skinny woman? No. It's just a fantasy. Would I object if it
actually happened? No. [You can' see it, but I have a silly smile on
my face at this point.] "Since the process of intentionally eating to
become fat is a purely fantastical pleasure, my woman wouldn't have to
gorge herself until she was near bursting. All she'd have to do is
enjoy a large dessert, taunting and teasing me while she enjoys every
bite. All she'd have to do is eat several bites very sensuously,
saying "Mmmm, honey, I'm getting fatter because of all this luscious
dessert. Do you want me to get fatter? I do, so I'm eating all of
this. Then I'm going to want some more. Every bite is going right to
my thighs. I want the next plateful to go my ass. Ooo, I can feel my
boobs getting fuller. Want to get me another piece of dessert, honey?"
I'd be putty in her hands if she did that . . ."
(see: http://www.capecod.net/~jcatlin/Lounge/LFeeder.htm)
As is the case with most interpersonal relationships, the degree to
which feederism is pursued ethically and humanely is dependent upon
the individual. Just as there are bad tops and unpleasant bottoms to
be found in any local BDSM scene, there are more and less ethical
practitioners of feederism. Only being aware of the potential for harm
offers any meaningful protection from its risks - or the ability to
partake sanely and sensibly of any form of sexuality which you find
appealing. Neither food, eating, sex, or the combination of the three
is problematic in and of itself.
Eating can be tremendously sensual, and should be: food tastes and
feels good as well as being nourishing. Playing with food during sex,
or eroticizing food and/or eating, can be scintillating and satisfying
parts of respectful, healthy, hot sex play. Like most of my fat
friends, I am in no way interested in being induced to become any
heavier than I already am.
But as a person with a broad array of sexual and sensual interests,
I'm not at all averse to combining food and sex… I've enjoyed
everything from being fed bites of tiramisu while out on a date to
covering my sweetheart with bits of fresh fruit and whipped cream and
eating them off. As a big broad, I'm all for being desired for who and
what I am, tummy, thighs, tush, and everything in between. I can even
support - although I can't empathize with -- those who sincerely find
it a sensually gratifying experience to become fatter.
This is to say that what is of concern here, in this discussion of
feederism, isn't food. It isn't sex, or eroticism, or even fatness or
weight gain. The problem of unethical feederism is a problem of
nonconsensual use of power, of the vulnerability and oppression of fat
people, and of the need for sexuality and fetish to be handled
honestly, humanely, and ethically.
I'd be the last person to say that feederism can't possibly be
consensual, a stance sometimes taken by anti-feederism zealots.
Experience and research have proven that regardless of your fetish,
there's likely to be someone else who agrees. However, I will maintain
without exception that, in order for feederism to truly be consensual,
both partners need to be informed and aware of the problems that this
form of BDSM play may cause.
Those who disagree are hereby informed that no, you are in fact not
invited to kiss my fat ass. That privilege is reserved for people who
care about my (and other big people's) well-being enough to be caring,
sane, consensual, and honest about their preferences and sexuality.
All Rights Reserved, 1999, Hanne Blank
--
"Ah, the suffering of strangers, the agony of friends. There is a secret song in the
center of the world, and the sound is like razors through flesh. I'm here to turn up
the volume. To stick the stinking face of humanity into the black blood of it's own
secret heart!"
pr...@altavista.net
Cenobite) wrote:
>I don't usually provide this kind of research material in a.t. To me,
>it's tasteless content, per se, is somewhat borderline, but if it
>would get Pred started on the way to some good "PredCeleb" tales, then
>it's worth the risk of posting it. Hell, back in her "Exit Fom Eden"
>days, I woulda done 'er in an NY minnit, so it'd be interesting to see
>what perverted, sick twists could be added to the ponderings.
>
>Well, here it is. Enjoy.
>
> Everything You (N)Ever Wanted To Know About Feederism
> (And Didn't Even Know You Should Ask)
><Snip>
Thank you. Your efforts are appreciated.
PRED
Lenore Levine
>On 10 Oct 1999 01:43:26 GMT, lev...@symcom.math.uiuc.edu (Lenore
>Levine) wrote:
>>...Kathie Lee Gifford...
> I also hunger for her two mongoloid children, Cody and Cassidy
>(is that the daughter's name? sp?).
Yes.
Interested readers are invited to do DejaNews for my story,
"The Bear."
>>OK. Have you ever heard about "feeders"?
>>...this aberration would make an ideal story theme for Predator.
> How have you read my mind? The "Tattooed Pig" story I have
>planned for the Lakeside Trilogy was going to cover just this sensual
>scenario. The girl Jayme, introduced in Tiny Toy, is in for the
>"romance of her life"...
There are two problems with this scenario:
1) "Feeders" usually go for very fat (supersize) women, not
moderately fat (midsize) ones. And the impression I get of Jayme
from your story is of a curvy girl who's attractive, and fat but
not very fat. That is, a young Camryn. After all, wouldn't most
of the young women hired by the resort be fuckable babes,
anyway? (Except, of course, for the token cripple.)
2) Jayme seems too self-confident to go for the "feeding" game.
Of course, a young girl's confidence can easily be destroyed.
E.g., there are certain drugs, like Prozac, that can make people
gain weight uncontrollably. Especially if they were fat to
begin with. That in itself would be enough to make a fifteen-
year-old lose her cool. And why did she have to go on Prozac,
anyway? Maybe the night bartender had something to do with
it, hmmm...
And then, of course, he could glom onto her with a slimy, "I
understand you even if no one else does" scam.
Just like the real feeders.
Ugh. Ugh. Ugh.
>I thought I had a lock on the one
>dehumanizing depravity that no one had even considered.
I also thought that if the predator really wanted to kill
the Cancer Girl, he could tell her that he wasn't really at-
tracted to her, that this was just a joke made up by the
other girls. (Although I wonder if he would do this. Isn't
part of his game that he wants his slaves to die happy to
be destroyed by him?)
>Who is more than a little fascinated by Lady Lenore
You really want Swan. Second door to the right, the one with
all the blood oozing out of it. Think Fairy Hardcastle, from
_That Hideous Strength_. I'm just a boring, middle-class sub-
urban normal myself...
Of course not. It would be ingenuous to assume I have no dark
side. And it would be equally ingenuous to assume you actually
put your fantasies into practice. Nevertheless, there's a
difference between us. Let me put it this way. I think if you
could play your games without legal or ethical consequence
(e.g., on a Star Trek-style holodeck) you probably would.
I suspect that me (or Citizen Ted, another really excellent
fictioneer) would not.
In any case, predator, I'm afraid I must disappoint you a
little. That is, I hope you won't be offended if I mention
this: Of all the folks on Earth, you are one of the last I
would want to be "fascinated" with me.
Except, of course, for Kathie Lee Gifford.
Happy writing,
LINCARD 1000
# My old friend Marbles (RIP) was an original ultracore mentor
#of mine. You may heave heard of him. His series "Bitch Boy" was a
#classic in the homoerotic/prison genre and my original inspiration.
Looks like I'm going to have to have a trawl through reams [ahh a
favorite word] of WWW pages to find a gem amongst the crap. Oh well,
keep the filth flowing, and the first amendment [or whatever it is]
alive and kicking.
ObTstory: Is in the works: Are you ready to return to Turdtanic?
LINCARD "SCATter and fleeeeeeee..." 1000
pr...@altavista.net
Levine) wrote:
>Interested readers are invited to do DejaNews for my story,
>"The Bear."
Oh, I will.
>
>There are two problems with this scenario:
>
>1) "Feeders" usually go for very fat (supersize) women, not
>moderately fat (midsize) ones. And the impression I get of Jayme
>from your story is of a curvy girl who's attractive, and fat but
>not very fat. That is, a young Camryn. After all, wouldn't most
>of the young women hired by the resort be fuckable babes,
>anyway? (Except, of course, for the token cripple.)
You're correct. My premise (not to spoil it) was taking such
a girl and ballooning her out into a grotesque monstrosity, all the
while convincing her that "big is beautiful" and that only the night
bartender could see and appreciate that. I read about a similar case
in a true crime book, which was my inspiration. I'm not sure I'm
addressing the true "feeder" scenario you're proposing, where a woman
is fed until she becomes immobile. My story is more about turning a
normal plump girl into a grotesque whose only source of self-esteem
comes from the man who seduces and controls her. He literally makes
her a pig fo rh is amusement (and the amusement of others).
>
>2) Jayme seems too self-confident to go for the "feeding" game.
>Of course, a young girl's confidence can easily be destroyed.
>E.g., there are certain drugs, like Prozac, that can make people
>gain weight uncontrollably. Especially if they were fat to
>begin with. That in itself would be enough to make a fifteen-
>year-old lose her cool. And why did she have to go on Prozac,
>anyway? Maybe the night bartender had something to do with
>it, hmmm...
Yes, I see the possibilities here. I'm going to play around
with things a bit and see if it works in the story. If not, then the
feeder elements you're speaking of can easily be worked into another
tale.
>
>And then, of course, he could glom onto her with a slimy, "I
>understand you even if no one else does" scam.
>
>Just like the real feeders.
>
>Ugh. Ugh. Ugh.
That's more of the tone I'm pursuing.
>
>I also thought that if the predator really wanted to kill
>the Cancer Girl, he could tell her that he wasn't really at-
>tracted to her, that this was just a joke made up by the
>other girls. (Although I wonder if he would do this. Isn't
>part of his game that he wants his slaves to die happy to
>be destroyed by him?)
I won't spoil this story. You'll just have to wait. I just
can't get the ending right. I've been looking at it now for a week.
It's driving me crazy. Oh well, it will cum to me. It always does.
>You really want Swan. Second door to the right, the one with
>all the blood oozing out of it. Think Fairy Hardcastle, from
>_That Hideous Strength_. I'm just a boring, middle-class sub-
>urban normal myself...
That is even more intriguing. I prefer the tempest in a
teapot to a storm raging on the open sea.
>
>Of course not. It would be ingenuous to assume I have no dark
>side. And it would be equally ingenuous to assume you actually
>put your fantasies into practice.
No one will ever know <wink>
>Nevertheless, there's a
>difference between us. Let me put it this way. I think if you
>could play your games without legal or ethical consequence
>(e.g., on a Star Trek-style holodeck) you probably would.
>I suspect that me (or Citizen Ted, another really excellent
>fictioneer) would not.
That I take as a supreme compliment.
>
>In any case, predator, I'm afraid I must disappoint you a
>little. That is, I hope you won't be offended if I mention
>this: Of all the folks on Earth, you are one of the last I
>would want to be "fascinated" with me.
>
>Except, of course, for Kathie Lee Gifford.
>
Once again, I take that as a supreme compliment. I like being
able to disturb and/or disgust the wicked as well as the
self-righteous. That is why I am the PREDATOR .. and everyone else is
the prey.
PRED <glowering>
Pinhead the Cenobite
Levine) wrote:
>pr...@altavista.net writes:
>
>>On 10 Oct 1999 01:43:26 GMT, lev...@symcom.math.uiuc.edu (Lenore
>>Levine) wrote:
>
>>>...Kathie Lee Gifford...
>
>> I also hunger for her two mongoloid children, Cody and Cassidy
>>(is that the daughter's name? sp?).
>
>Yes.
[..]
>There are two problems with this scenario:
>
>1) "Feeders" usually go for very fat (supersize) women, not
>moderately fat (midsize) ones.
I think the thing that needs to be remembered here, Lenore, is that
Feederism has many strata, same as any other fetish. There are any
number of Feeders who will target a "midsize" with the intention of
turning them into a hobby of sorts. They turn the gal into a so-called
"labour of love" to build them up into the supersize catagory. Many
keep a pictoral "file" of their progress over time. Yes, I note you
said "usually", but from all that I've read on the subject, going
immediately for supersizers is more of an exception, rather than the
rule.
[...]
>And then, of course, he could glom onto her with a slimy, "I
>understand you even if no one else does" scam.
>
>Just like the real feeders.
>
>Ugh. Ugh. Ugh.
Indeed. I think that this aspect would appeal to Pred greatly,
although I personally find this practice IRL deplorable. Hey, if you
*want* to be used, abused and thrown over my shoulder like an empty
beer can, that's fine, I'll give ya all you need. The key words are
"if you *want*".
>I'm just a boring, middle-class sub-urban normal myself...
*snicker*
NurzRachet
> ObDomestic&Tragic: The ST and myself were perusing the local "Home &
> Garden Expo" [shut up, I know what you're all thinking]. All the
> usual bullshit exhibits and one or two more interesting ideas [boring
> and house related]... But lo! Of all the sad loser gits - I was being
> cruised! Good glub man, can you believe that? At a fucking Home and
> bloody garden expo, I was being cruised by some guy??? Unbelievable.
> How sad do you have to be to try and find sex at a home and garden
> expo.
Not sad at all, Lincy, especially if there are lots of camping setups --
motor homes and campers always have nifty hiding spots for quickie sex,
complete with cheesy (pun intended) curtains/drapes for quick spoo and
cooter slime cleanups. There's something very exciting about getting
poked in a tiny closet/bathroom while some stranger is yanking on the
door handle.
Home-a-Ramas and Sunday open houses are also good for a quick
poke-in-a-strange place (I don't know why I've always found these things
so erotic). Warning to all you Chicagoland new home buyers -- check
your curtains/drapes before you move in that new place you just bought.
Me 'n Vomit have on more than one occasion christened a newly-built or
renovated home/loft/condo, and performed the obligatory cooter/cock-wipe
on the most convenient thing available, whether it be drapery, some lame
real estate agent decoration, or just a quick scoot on the carpet (ala
wormy dog).
And I guess I don't have to tell you that if your toilet paper spindle
is all sticky and you can't figure out why...
> LINCARD "domesticated faggot" 1000
Do you do windows?
ObDisclaimer: "Better Homes and Closets" shamelessly stolen from an old
NatLamp.
Nurzy
....nice place but the closets are too small....
LINCARD 1000
gibbered:
#Not sad at all, Lincy, especially if there are lots of camping setups
#motor homes and campers always have nifty hiding spots for quickie
#sex, complete with cheesy (pun intended) curtains/drapes for quick
#spoo and cooter slime cleanups. There's something very exciting
#about getting poked in a tiny closet/bathroom while some stranger is
#yanking on the door handle.
I guess its a similar idea, but there were no mobile homes or anything
like that there. Well, tell a lie, but it was full of children, and
as any A.T fool will tell you, children are only any good for eatin'
or huntin'. But I gotta tell ya, aint nothin' like a fag for home
decorating [stifles a laugh]. Its somewhat strange that a stereotype
can be so tragically true.
Sorry, I guess you had to be there.
#> LINCARD "domesticated faggot" 1000
#
#Do you do windows?
Only if I get paid with sexual favors at the end of it by some great
big buffed gorgeous hunk of a man with a huge dick and a luscious
arse, yes.
ObT: I have finally had the "yum cha" [?] experience, at an authentic
Chinese restaurant - they offered us cows innards, strange seafood
things and... FRIED CHICKENS FEET! Oh rapture...
No, I didn't actually eat it.
Yes, I am a wuss.
LINCARD "Great feets of strength" 1000
Pinhead the Cenobite
(Acetylcholinesterase Inhibitor) wrote:
>Ishii...@PingFan.Org (Pinhead the Cenobite) writes:
[...]
>Hey, Pinhead, your .sig is still running 83+ characters per line.
Well, it comes through back to me jest fine, and no one else has
seemed to had a problem with it. Weren't you, IIRC, having some kind
of problem with your word wrap/formatting before?
>(I'd have e-mailed this, but both your addresses are invalid.)
Yep. Harvester bots suck. Haven't gotten any e-mail spam for, well, a
very long time though....
[.sig adjusted, just for Dale...]
Roberta Hatch
>(Acetylcholinesterase Inhibitor) wrote:
>>Hey, Pinhead, your .sig is still running 83+ characters per line.
>Well, it comes through back to me jest fine, and no one else has
>seemed to had a problem with it. Weren't you, IIRC, having some kind
>of problem with your word wrap/formatting before?
What you mean is that nobody else mentioned it. It was
doing the same for me. The problem was on your end. Some of us
use ascii terminal emulators to read news.
Bobbi
---
Roberta Hatch '65 Panhead
Dykes on Bikes, San Francisco, CA (This space for rent)
Lenore Levine
> You're correct. My premise (not to spoil it) was taking such
>a girl and ballooning her out into a grotesque monstrosity, all the
>while convincing her that "big is beautiful" and that only the night
>bartender could see and appreciate that.
For the record, that's not what "big is beautiful" is supposed to
mean. Trust me.
In any case, maybe the girl could be taking Prozac because some
masked intruder tortured to death her puppy or kitten. Hmmm...I
wonder who that could be? Or does animal torture bother you? Don't
be afraid to admit it; it certainly bothers _me_. E.g., your stories
don't particularly gross me out, but if they involved cats or dogs
I'd barely be able to read them.
Human nature is, uhm, complicated.
<Lenore vs. Swan>
> That is even more intriguing. I prefer the tempest in a
>teapot to a storm raging on the open sea.
You mean you're afraid to meet Swan in person?
<Lenore, to Predator>
>>Of all the folks on Earth, you are one of the last I
>>would want to be "fascinated" with me.
>>Except, of course, for Kathie Lee Gifford.
>>
> Once again, I take that as a supreme compliment. I like being
>able to disturb and/or disgust the wicked as well as the
>self-righteous. That is why I am the PREDATOR .. and everyone else is
>the prey.
Except, by your self-admitted criteria, Kathie Lee Gifford.
E Varden
>
> The problem was on your end. Some of us
> use ascii terminal emulators to read news.
>
And I -- no shit -- read that as "acid terminal emasculators".
"Cadbury, do bring the gin-trolley by again? There's a good fellow."
Pe
Nessuno
>
>Ever since "Who Wants to Marry a Ho" aired on Fox, a.s.g. has been prone to
>arguments on the relative deadliness of the sexes. This book looks interesting,
>if it profiles 100 serial murderesses it may have some we're unfamiliar with
>here.
>
>(Of course, it was posted by a Webbie...)
>
>From: Kyle <EXTREM...@webtv.net>
>Newsgroups: alt.showbiz.gossip
>Subject: Female serial killers more lethal than male serial killer / Re: Violent
>men and women
>Date: Wed, 22 Mar 2000 02:27:00 GMT
>Organization: Deja.com - Before you buy.
>
>While the short, lethal careers of serial killers such as Jeffrey Dahmer and
>Andrew Cunanan terrorize the public and provide morbid inspiration for the
>entertainment industry, few people realize that it is the female serial
>killer, seldom heard of, who deserves most to be feared. Murder Most Rare
>provides startling information about the female serial murderer, who is shown
>to be far more deadly and determined, difficult to apprehend, and complexly
>motivated than her male counterpart.
>
>While serial murder by women is relatively rare, a surprising number of
>female serial killers are identified by the authors, nearly 100 in this
>century, with half of them having committed their crimes in America. By
>examining these women's backgrounds, motives and methods of killing, the book
>sheds new light on dozens of overlooked cases of murder and uncovers callous
>crimes and passions gone awry.
>
>After a thought-provoking exploration of the cultural biases that have caused
>us historically to dismiss and ignore the criminal potential of women, Murder
>Most Rare divides female serial murders for the first time into seven
>categories: Black Widow, Angel of Death, Sexual Predator, Revenge, Profit or
>Crime, Team Killer and Question of Sanity. These seven types vary widely in
>motivation, choice of victims, weapons and methods. The authors reveal
>patterns that occur within the types, but stress that the complicated nature
>of these women's crimes makes personality profiling almost impossible--a fact
>that causes the jobs of homicide investigators to be difficult, indeed,
>sometimes impossible. This is a uniquely personal look into a dark, shocking
>world.
>
>"The two Kellehers are the encyclopedistes of female violence. Not only have
>these diligent authors collected a vast number of gruesome tales; they have
>also drawn up a taxonomic chart for each killer....In putting together their
>survey, the Kellehers' principal aim seems to have been thoroughness: they
>have tracked down and categorized every female serial killer they could get
>their hands on."
>
>The New Yorker
>
>"[T]he Kellehers...detail each [serial murderer] with a relish and breezy
>objectivity....The cumulated savagery is what horrifies, as tables rounding
>up malefactors' motives, methods, and backgrounds abound. This is a fine
>true-crime entry, tasteful when possible and engrossing as either reference
>or episodic reading...."
>
>Booklist
>
>"...[T]he common perception is that serial killers are invariably white,
>male, sexual predators. But according to the fascinating (and quite
>unnerving) new book, Murder Most Rare, female serial killers may be even more
>lethal and cunning than men."
>
>Atlanta Journal-Constitution
>
>"Michael Kelleher has explored violence and murder in several works...he now
>offers a rare, mostly clinical overview of the female mass murderer. The book
>profiles nearly 100 deadly women....The grim succession of murder accounts
>here...cuts an often shocking swath of feminine terror."
>
>Publishers Weekly
>
>"As the title suggests, Murder Most Rare offers up ripping yarns."
>Amazon.com
>
>"[T]he book provides new insights about the borderline female mind which can
>systematically, and easily, calculate cold-blooded murder." Palo Alto Daily
>News
>
>
>http://info.greenwood.com/books/0275960/027596003x.html