South American -->Scientific World Wide Flood Evidence.
(M)-adman
We have pointed out that dirt covers the ancient civilization to a depth of
at least 6 feet.
The only explanation for this accumulation is water.
A large amount of water had to have inundated the city. When it receded it
left the silt covering all evidence of an advanced civilization, leaving
only the largest statues and monoliths still exposed.
It is logical to conclude, therefore, that Tiahuanaco was built before the
lake was created, and not as a port on its shore. As the waters today
continue to recede, we should be able to find more evidence of the city's
remote peoples.
Scientists theorize that the area of Lake Titicaca was at one time at sea
level, because of the profusion of fossilized marine life which can be found
in the region.
The area then lifted with the Andean upheaval and a basin was created which
filled in to form the lake. No one has suggested the marine life might have
been brought to the altiplano by sea waters which were at flood stage.
Peruvian legends clearly relate a story of world-wide flood in the distant
past.
Whether it was the biblical flood of Noah, or another one, we cannot say,
but there is ample physical evidence of a universal inundation, with the
world-wide deluge described in more than a hundred flood-myths.
Along with Noah's flood were the Babylonian Utnapischtim of the Gilgamesh
epic, the Sumerian Ziusudra, the Persian Jima, the Indian Manu, the Maya
Coxcox, the Colombian Bochica, the Algonkin's Nanabozu, the Crows' Coyote,
the Greek Deukalion and Pyrrha, the Chinese Noah Kuen, and the Polynesian
Tangaloa. It is evident there was a world-wide deluge 19,000 years ago.
http://www.crystalinks.com/preinca2.html
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snex
new orleans flooded, therefore the whole earth flooded.
can you find the logical fallacy?
Tim Miller
That's not "scientific evidence" of a "world wide flood"
you idiot. And if this "flood" happened 19,000 years ago,
how did it cover a city that didn't reach it's peak until
about 800AD?
(M)-adman
try reading the entire article.
Take a reading comprehension course first
richardal...@googlemail.com
> We have pointed out that dirt covers the ancient civilization to a depth of
> at least 6 feet.
>
In London, the Roman levels are about 20 feet below the modern
streets.
> The only explanation for this accumulation is water.
So I presume you think that London has been covered with water for
2000 years. How strange that nobody noticed it.
>
> A large amount of water had to have inundated the city. When it receded it
> left the silt covering all evidence of an advanced civilization, leaving
> only the largest statues and monoliths still exposed.
...which, bearing in mind that the city is in one of the most active
earthquake zones on the planet is easly explained.
>
> It is logical to conclude, therefore, that Tiahuanaco was built before the
> lake was created, and not as a port on its shore. As the waters today
> continue to recede, we should be able to find more evidence of the city's
> remote peoples.
>
> Scientists theorize that the area of Lake Titicaca was at one time at sea
> level, because of the profusion of fossilized marine life which can be found
> in the region.
Quite so. However, the rocks on which it is built are of Mesozoic age,
so it was at sea level it was over 65 million years ago.
>
> The area then lifted with the Andean upheaval and a basin was created which
> filled in to form the lake.
...and all this happened millions of years before there were any
humans to build cities.
> No one has suggested the marine life might have
> been brought to the altiplano by sea waters which were at flood stage.
..because there is no shred of evidence for a global flood, and plenty
of evidence for the chronology geologist suggest.
>
> Peruvian legends clearly relate a story of world-wide flood in the distant
> past.
>
I doubt that those "Peruvian legends" have much circulation beyond
creationist sources, which are hardly reliable.
> Whether it was the biblical flood of Noah, or another one, we cannot say,
> but there is ample physical evidence of a universal inundation,
No, there isn't. There isn't a shred of evidence for a "universal
inundation"
> with the
> world-wide deluge described in more than a hundred flood-myths.
>
> Along with Noah's flood were the Babylonian Utnapischtim of the Gilgamesh
> epic, the Sumerian Ziusudra, the Persian Jima, the Indian Manu, the Maya
> Coxcox, the Colombian Bochica, the Algonkin's Nanabozu, the Crows' Coyote,
> the Greek Deukalion and Pyrrha, the Chinese Noah Kuen, and the Polynesian
> Tangaloa. It is evident there was a world-wide deluge 19,000 years ago.
>
> http://www.crystalinks.com/preinca2.html
Evidently you regard the web sites of idiots and ignoramuses as being
more reliable as sources of information than the researches of the
people who actually study the phenomena in question.
I wonder why.
RF
geo...@hotmail.com
that's nice... now, I'd like a McChicken sandwich meal please, and
could I have a large coke with that?
Augray
wrote in <MpsGk.45068$Ep1....@bignews2.bellsouth.net> :
This is ironic, coming from someone who thought that Harun Yahya was
published in National Geographic, Science, New Scientist and NSCE
Reports, when the web page he cited only says that Harun Yahya was
*mentioned* in those publications.
And I'm still waiting for Adman to back up his claim that Harun Yahya
is a biochemist. But I suspect the claim boils down to a comprehension
problem.
Tim Miller
We're still waiting for him to back up ANY of his claims.
Just ONE.
Stuart
> We have pointed out that dirt covers the ancient civilization to a depth of
> at least 6 feet.
Yeah and the remains of Jamestown were also buried by more than a few
feet.
Don't recall any world wide deluge in the last 400 years.
DO you?
Stuart
(M)-adman
I don't suppose you noticed the elevation of the ancient civilization
Tim Miller
> Stuart wrote:
>> On Oct 6, 7:49 am, "\(M\)-adman" <g...@hotmail.ed> wrote:
>>> We have pointed out that dirt covers the ancient civilization to a
>>> depth of at least 6 feet.
>> Yeah and the remains of Jamestown were also buried by more than a few
>> feet.
>>
>> Don't recall any world wide deluge in the last 400 years.
>>
>> DO you?
>>
>> Stuart
>
>
> I don't suppose you noticed the elevation of the ancient civilization
>
>
Ye Old One
enriched this group when s/he wrote:
>We have pointed out that dirt covers the ancient civilization to a depth of
>at least 6 feet.
>
>The only explanation for this accumulation is water.
No it is not.
[snip usual (m)adman rubbish]
I know you are a very forgetful person, or at least you like to run
away and try to forget things. However, on the 29th September 2008 you
failed to deal with a number of items that were first listed by
Boikat.
So, to help you, here (again) are the mistakes Boikat (and now myself)
think you need to address:-
Claiming Paul Neuman was a creationist....
Claiming that "Dr." Kent Hovind has made lots of *scientific*
discoveries...
Claiming wars have been fought because some scientific finding
discredited some facet of some religion...
Claiming to have a "higher education" than most posters to this news
group....
Claiming to understand how geologists determine the age of any given
sample of rock...
Now, will you deal with them? Or do I need to keep reminding you?
--
Bob.
Mark Evans
Logic and N'Orleans is not a naturally occurring mix.
Mark Evans
(M)-adman
but we got mardi gras
:P
Stuart
> Stuart wrote:
> > On Oct 6, 7:49 am, "\(M\)-adman" <g...@hotmail.ed> wrote:
> >> We have pointed out that dirt covers the ancient civilization to a
> >> depth of at least 6 feet.
>
> > Yeah and the remains of Jamestown were also buried by more than a few
> > feet.
>
> > Don't recall any world wide deluge in the last 400 years.
>
> > DO you?
>
> > Stuart
>
> I don't suppose you noticed the elevation of the ancient civilization
>
You mean how one civilization builds on top of an older one?
gee that must be a result of a world wide deluge, many times.
Uh huh. Put down your crack pipe.
Stuart
(M)-adman
you obviously did not go read the information
You must be one of those 'arm-chair-scientists'
Boikat
> Stuart wrote:
> > On Oct 6, 10:50 am, "\(M\)-adman" <g...@hotmail.ed> wrote:
> >> Stuart wrote:
> >>> On Oct 6, 7:49 am, "\(M\)-adman" <g...@hotmail.ed> wrote:
> >>>> We have pointed out that dirt covers the ancient civilization to a
> >>>> depth of at least 6 feet.
>
> >>> Yeah and the remains of Jamestown were also buried by more than a
> >>> few feet.
>
> >>> Don't recall any world wide deluge in the last 400 years.
>
> >>> DO you?
>
> >>> Stuart
>
> >> I don't suppose you noticed the elevation of the ancient civilization
>
> > You mean how one civilization builds on top of an older one?
>
> > gee that must be a result of a world wide deluge, many times.
>
> > Uh huh. Put down your crack pipe.
>
> > Stuart
>
> you obviously did not go read the information
So, do you also agree with the part of the article that claims the
moon has been in Earth orbit for only 12,000 years?
Also, idiot, as far as the soil deposits over ancient ruins, have you
ever heard of "loess"?
> You must be one of those 'arm-chair-scientists'
And you are an armchair idiot.
Boikat
Stuart
> Stuart wrote:
> > On Oct 6, 10:50 am, "\(M\)-adman" <g...@hotmail.ed> wrote:
> >> Stuart wrote:
> >>> On Oct 6, 7:49 am, "\(M\)-adman" <g...@hotmail.ed> wrote:
> >>>> We have pointed out that dirt covers the ancient civilization to a
> >>>> depth of at least 6 feet.
>
> >>> Yeah and the remains of Jamestown were also buried by more than a
> >>> few feet.
>
> >>> Don't recall any world wide deluge in the last 400 years.
>
> >>> DO you?
>
> >>> Stuart
>
> >> I don't suppose you noticed the elevation of the ancient civilization
>
> > You mean how one civilization builds on top of an older one?
>
> > gee that must be a result of a world wide deluge, many times.
>
> > Uh huh. Put down your crack pipe.
>
> > Stuart
>
> you obviously did not go read the information
>
You call that.... information?
4 moons fell to Earth?
It reads like a shitty sci-fi novel.
Stuart
Boikat
adman only reads the first paragraph, the his monosynaptic brain shuts
down. If he thinks the first paragraph is anti-science, then it's "Tr-
wooooo!"
Boikiat
Desertphile
> We have pointed out that dirt covers the ancient civilization to a depth of
> at least 6 feet.
>
> The only explanation for this accumulation is water.
The current deposition rate of dirt on Manhatten (and New York
City) is about 65 centimeters per 100 years. Since the year 1626
the island's earliest structures are now about 2.5 meters (more
than 8 feet) below the surface, and now and then construction
crews find them. The oldest USA surface constructions on Manhatten
(such as cobbled streets) are buried about 5.5 feet deep.
"The only explanation for this accumulation" is not water: it's
air-borne dirt and erosion.
--
http://desertphile.org
Desertphile's Desert Soliloquy. WARNING: view with plenty of water
"Why aren't resurrections from the dead noteworthy?" -- Jim Rutz
Desertphile
richardal...@googlemail.com wrote:
> On Oct 6, 6:49 pm, "\(M\)-adman" <g...@hotmail.ed> wrote:
> > We have pointed out that dirt covers the ancient civilization to a depth of
> > at least 6 feet.
> In London, the Roman levels are about 20 feet below the modern
> streets.
The deposition rate is about the same in many other cities, even
modern ones. I wonder if there are science papers published on the
subject--- perhaps Google Scholar.
Mark Evans
You make my point.
Mark Evans
Max
I take it you don't eat at the clown's very often.
Max
Yeah, yeah, very funny. But you didn't highlight the funniest parts.
"Tiahuanaco apparently remained for only a very short period at its
acme of perfection (evidenced by the Calendar Gate) and perished
suddenly, perhaps through the cataclysmic happenings connected with
the breakdown of the former "moon."
We have at present no means of determining when Tiahuanaco rose to
supreme height. or when its culture was obliterated, and naturally,
the calendar itself can tell us nothing about that.
It will certainly not have been in the historical past but well back
in the prehistoric.
It must indeed have occurred before the planet Luna was captured as
the earth's present moon, about 12,000 years ago.
The capture of the satellite and its later fall to the surface on our
planet imposed great stresses on the earth. The gravitational pull
caused floods and earthquakes until the moon settled into a stable
orbit one-fifth of today's distance.
Hence the "moon" draws the oceans into a belt or bulge around the
equator, drowning the equatorial region but leaving the polar lands
high and dry.
When the satellite approached within a few thousand miles
gravitational forces broke it up; according to the Roche formula each
planetoid or asteroid disintegrates when approaching the critical
distance of 50 to 60,000 kms.
The fragments shattered down on earth; the oceans, released from the
satellite's gravity, flowed back toward the continents, exposing
tropical lands and submerging polar territories. This is the simple
explanation of the Horbiger theory, and it seems to me the most
logical one.
Thus the approach of the "moon" caused a world-wide deluge, effecting
changes of climate and provoking earthquakes accompanied by volcanic
eruptions.
The "ring" left by the satellite after breaking into fragments caused
a sudden drop in temperature of at least 20 degrees, which geologists
recognize as its decline" in temperature. It is evident, for example,
in the discovery of frozen mammoths in the Siberian tundra.
Possibly gravity-and therefore physical weight - was also changed on
earth, and with it biological growth: this would explain the
widespread construction of huge megalithic monuments as well as the
presence of giants-man and animal-in fossil strata, tombs, and myths.
According to Horbiger four moons fell on earth, producing four Ice
Ages; our present moon, the fifth one, will similarly be drawn into
the critical configuration of one-fifth of its present distance
(380,000 kms.) and will cause the fifth cataclysm. (Remember the Aztec
calendar's prediction of doomsday by earthquake!)
The theory of a falling moon has recently been substantiated by Dr.
John O'Keefe, a scientist at the Coddard Laboratory for Astronomy in
Maryland. Dr. O'Keefe claims that the fragments of a moon's collision
formed a ring around our planet that could have kept the sun's rays
from penetrating to earth, thus causing world-wide decline of
temperatures.
After a while the fragments showered down on earth, breaking into
smithereens known as tectites.
These tectites O'Keefe believes were fragments of the fallen moon,
thus proving Horbiger 's World-lce-Cosmology."
I would normally point out the errors, but here they are so
beautifully and clearly evident they stand out on their own. As a work
of wackiness this is truly priceless.
Tim_Miller
>
> I would normally point out the errors, but here they are so
> beautifully and clearly evident they stand out on their own. As a work
> of wackiness this is truly priceless.
>
Welcome to the "World According to Madman"...
LOL!!
(M)-adman
Why do you guys resist truth?
Tim_Miller
> Tim_Miller wrote:
>> Max wrote:
>>
>>> I would normally point out the errors, but here they are so
>>> beautifully and clearly evident they stand out on their own. As a
>>> work of wackiness this is truly priceless.
>>>
>> Welcome to the "World According to Madman"...
>>
>> LOL!!
>
> Why do you guys resist truth?
Now THAT'S a question you SHOULD be asking YOURSELF, madman.
Ken
wrote:
> Now THAT'S a question you SHOULD be asking YOURSELF, madman.
ASSman's stupidity is ceaseless, boundless, bottomless and neverending
Ken
> And you are an armchair idiot.
>
> Boikat
Hell, ASSman's a 4 Star General in the Army of Armchair Idiots