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Cool Hand Luke

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Jan 12, 1997, 3:00:00 AM1/12/97
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Enough is enough. The people of alt.surfing have a right to say what
they want about anything they want without being bad mouthed or put down
about expressing their views. Ninety nine percent of us have the common
goal of sharing our joy of Surfing with others who we have never met.
Known only by our post we offer help, insights and advice to those
seeking it. All except one glaring asshole who offers little redeeming
value to alt.surfing other than putting others down to show how “cool”
he is. This consistent piece of shit offers nothing of redeeming value
to any of us. Can he write a complete sentence? Does he have a brain?
Can he actually surf? The answer is, of course, no. I for one hope to
meet this dirtbag and send him on an all expense paid trip to the
hospital. By now you may be wondering who this dickhead is? So without
any further procrastination (verbal masterbation in his own words) I
like to introduce to you the festering sore of alt.surfing: Sandman the
ultimate Pussy of Surf.

Just a little about this poor excuse for feeble poser before I continue:
Who’s the dick who fights with the young girls so he knows he’ll win?
Sandman.
Who’s the dick who dresses like a poser in surfing clothes and talks
about what a great surfer he is and how “bitchen” the waves are without
ever even going surfing? Sandman.
Who’s the loser who'll steal your surfboard when you turn your back,just
to buy another beer while his family goes hungry? Sandman.
Who’s the loser who that thinks he lives in the water so the whole ocean
and those who surf it are his subjects? Sandman the Dick.
Who’s the stupid fuck that eats whatever he can find out of the trash
can? Sandman the Dick.
Why does he call himself Sandman? Because half the time he sleeps on the
beach in a garbage can, because he’s so drunk he can’t find the feces
filled cardboard shack he lives in. Coupled with the fact he doesn’t
have a change of clothing to wear and likes the feel of sand stuck up
his ass,

All in all Sandman is a lame, piece of shit loser writing checks with
his mouth that his ass will soon have to cash.

Other than that you pussy, I hope to beat the shit out of you one day
just for the hell of it.

Last but not least, Your homepage sucks, as do all of your stinking kook
pictures. Nice Kook style you dickhead. I can see why your such a
dick.....you live 100 miles from the beach like all posers!

Cool Hand Luke

Omar

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Jan 13, 1997, 3:00:00 AM1/13/97
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looks like you enjoy shooting off your mouth too.............can you
back it up in the water?

Matt Warning

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Jan 14, 1997, 3:00:00 AM1/14/97
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Omar wrote:

> > Who1s the dick who fights with the young girls so he knows he1ll win?
> > Sandman.

oops (embarrassing typos). I meant:

I don't want to enter into the fray here, I just want to know if this
is a paraphrase of Isaac Hayes - "who's the private dick who's a sex
machine with all the chicks... Shaft! ... right on".

Matt

Matt Warning

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Jan 14, 1997, 3:00:00 AM1/14/97
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Omar wrote:

> > Whošs the dick who fights with the young girls so he knows hešll win?
> > Sandman.

I don't want to enter into the fray here, I just want to know if this

is a paraphrase of Isaac Hayes - "who's the private dick whose a sex
machine with all the chicks... Shaft! ... right on"?

Matt

the Sandman

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Jan 14, 1997, 3:00:00 AM1/14/97
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Cool Hand Kook wrote:
>
> Enough is enough.

<long-winded unimaginative blather snipped as quality control measure>

Another satisfied customer!

--
It'll blow yer mind!
http://www.whammer.com/

Rob(t.) Brannan

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Jan 14, 1997, 3:00:00 AM1/14/97
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You forgot to mention that you want to steal his networked laptop.


Timothy B. Maddux

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Jan 14, 1997, 3:00:00 AM1/14/97
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In article <5bfg6j$7...@dfw-ixnews11.ix.netcom.com>,

Rob(t.) Brannan <ro...@ix.netcom.com> wrote:
>In <32DACF...@earthlink.net> Omar <ale...@earthlink.net> writes:
>>
>>Cool Hand Luke wrote:
>>>

[ the entirety of CHL's post snipped by me ]

Probably the only thing I find annoying about the
Sandman is when he quotes an entire posting (just
like Rob and Omar) only to put a 1-line comment
at the very end.

Usually his comments are funny enough to make it
a wash, but Rob's and Omar's weren't. Shame on
both of you.

--
.-``'. Timothy B. Maddux, Ocean Engineering Lab, UCSB
.` .`~ http://www.engineering.ucsb.edu/~tbmaddux/
_.-' '._ "From the essence of pure stoke springs all creation."

Rob(t.) Brannan

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Jan 15, 1997, 3:00:00 AM1/15/97
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In <5bh62t$e...@gap.cco.caltech.edu> tbma...@alumnae.caltech.edu


oooooops, I did it again?!

John E. Potpie

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Jan 15, 1997, 3:00:00 AM1/15/97
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Cool Hand Puke <de...@on.arrival> wrote in article
<32D9A4...@on.arrival>...

: any further procrastination (verbal masterbation in his own words) I


: like to introduce to you the festering sore of alt.surfing: Sandman the
: ultimate Pussy of Surf.

I'll let Sandman fight his own fights, but I gotta say. At least he
doesn't forge his address with a fake one to hide his anonymity. That, my
wicked son is the sign of a "real" pussy.
:
: Last but not least, Your homepage sucks, as do all of your stinking kook


: pictures. Nice Kook style you dickhead. I can see why your such a
: dick.....you live 100 miles from the beach like all posers!
:

: Cool Hand Puke
:
Actually I've encountered more "true" kooks that live almost right on the
beach (by no means am I saying that everybody that lives right at the beach
is a kook........I myself, would love to have the opportunity to do so).
Up here, people who live aways from the coast and actually surf year round
tend to be some the hardest of the core. It takes commitment and
sacrifice, more than someone who lives right on the beach can know.

Thanks for ripping on some of MY pictures, Punk!

"Cool Hand PUKE". It obviously fits here in this situation....


Matt Warning

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Jan 15, 1997, 3:00:00 AM1/15/97
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Matt Warning wrote:

> Omar wrote:

> > > Who1s the dick who fights with the young girls so he knows he1ll win?
> > > Sandman.

> oops (embarrassing typos). I meant:

> I don't want to enter into the fray here, I just want to know if this
> is a paraphrase of Isaac Hayes - "who's the private dick who's a sex
> machine with all the chicks... Shaft! ... right on".

Matt

Still didn't get it right. The real thing is at

http://www-leland.stanford.edu:80/~nts

and click on the last hyperlink, "whoblack.wav"

Charles Whitacre Cushman 3

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Jan 15, 1997, 3:00:00 AM1/15/97
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this could get intresting.
charlie

the Sandman

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Jan 16, 1997, 3:00:00 AM1/16/97
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Cool Hand Kook wrote:
>
> Enough is enough

I'm just warmin up, little buddy

--
where the ocean
is hotter than the sun!
http://www.whammer.com/

Foondoggy

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Jan 16, 1997, 3:00:00 AM1/16/97
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My usenet provider says this may not have been made available to the
group due to a shutdown. It didn't make Dejanews, so I decided to launch
it again. I love to pile on anyway. -Foon

Foondoggy wrote:
>
> Last week, while reflecting on the previous year's postings, and being
> the subject of a flame war due to my "no Ms.Travis, it's not like riding
> a bicycle" post, I wondered who in 1997 would stir the alt.surfing pot.
> In days gone by we had the likes of Cortical and Amschel to vent our
> flamage on. Now our friend Cool Hand has take aim on a worthy target and
> launched the first mudball.
>
> I as I look out on the frozen tundra that passes for a beach on the
> Right Coast this time of year, I can't tell you how ready I am to watch
> a genuine pissing war. I have no doubt the Sandman, inventor of the
> original Flame Form, is up to the task. My only wish is that someone
> would really piss off Rick Ciaccio, who IMHO is one of the top 3 word
> executioners on this group. There have been flames from Rick against
> others in the past that have swept over ME like a wave of shit.
>
> Cujos to Cool Hand (anyone get that?) I've just this weekend repaired
> the Foonrecliner and restocked the firewood. With a quart of Dr. Jacky
> and a couple of stogies close by, I'm settling down for a long HOT
> winter.
>
> -Foondoggy ;^)
>
> "Passionate hatred can give meaning a purpose to an empty life." -Eric
> Hoffer

the Sandman

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Jan 16, 1997, 3:00:00 AM1/16/97
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Cool Hand Kook wrote:
>
> Enough is enough.

EXCELLENT promo piece, Cool Hand Kook!
My hits have doubled since this post!!!
keep up the good work!

you too, Sans!

--
Mind Expansion
Software for Surfers
http://www.whammer.com/

Matt Warning

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Jan 16, 1997, 3:00:00 AM1/16/97
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Rick "Baudelaire" "master of humility" Ciaccio wrote:

> Flaming Sandman on the other hand is rather unfulfilling since his character is
> neither imaginitive nor creative and his posts/replies are usually less than a
> sentence and are pure ego...

hmmmm

Larry K.

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Jan 17, 1997, 3:00:00 AM1/17/97
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"John E. Potpie" <la...@accessone.com> wrote one of my all-time
favorite malapropisms when he suggested:

(snipped)

>doesn't forge his address with a fake one to hide his anonymity.

Cool Hand may or may not wish to hide his identity or, in like manner,
preserve his anonymity, but the last thing he or anyone would do to
"hide his anonymity" would be to use a fake e-mail address!

If such were his objective, he could merely post a copy of his
driver's license!!!

Larry K.

John Shumate

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Jan 17, 1997, 3:00:00 AM1/17/97
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Rick Ciaccio wrote:
>
<snipped>
>It'd be a heck of a party to get all together for a beach bash...
> it would be a revealing session to say the least when we hit the
> breakers. :-)
>
> Rick Ciaccio

No way, Rick. It would be one big sand-kicking-mudball-throwing
arguement/fight on the beach and no one would EVER get to the water.
We'd all be arguing over the silliest things. You could choose your
arguement to participate in. For example, you'd have:

1) Stand-up surfers vs Body boarders

2) Left Coast vs Right Coast

3) One Fin vs 3 Fin (one of my favorites)

4) Longboarders vs Shortboarders

5) God is out there vs There is no God

6) Best SKA Band vs Best Upcoming SKA Band

7) Left vs Right (or if you prefer Goofy vs Regular)

8) Quick Cash vs Illegal Schemes (Not really surfers - just passing by
and saw a group of people and thought they'd join in...)

9) Our lastest Volley: Sandman vs Cool Hand Luke (this is where you'l
find Foondoogy and his beach chair...)

But it would be interesting to everyone in face-to-face action.
Personally, I'm going to start rolling up mud-balls and then roll them
in dry sand in preparation for this momentous occassion...

Ready! 1-2-3 Go!
John E.


Somewhere off in the distance, a voice can be heard:

"Hey - YOU! Ya YOU! - No putting stones in the mudballs...
Wait - hey! Come over here...No, don't run away - hey come back
here..."


(fade to black...)

the Sandman

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Jan 17, 1997, 3:00:00 AM1/17/97
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by God, I've got it!
Rick in "Cool Hand Kook"!

John E. Potpie

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Jan 17, 1997, 3:00:00 AM1/17/97
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Larry K. <rvr...@plinet.com> wrote in article
<5bn6r9$mit$1...@cactus.verinet.com>...
: "John E. Potpie" <la...@accessone.com> wrote one of my all-time

:
I may have to copyright that one.

One set wave to the proof reader for catching that senseless sentence.
Please insert "conceal his identity" where "hide his anonymity" currently
resides.

Actually I caught that one after it was sent and was hoping nobody would
notice my little blunder.

He's still a PUKE though.......doubt he even has a drivers license.

Peter Watkinson

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Jan 18, 1997, 3:00:00 AM1/18/97
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On Thu, 16 Jan 1997 22:32:47 -0800, the Sandman <wha...@whammer.com>
wrote:


Does that mean you've had 2 then??

the Sandman

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Jan 21, 1997, 3:00:00 AM1/21/97
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Ric Harwood wrote:
>
> When there is a date/place it can be posted regularly to the group
> and maillists to maintain support and momentum. We can do a web site
> with details, perhaps a promise form so that people know who intends
> to go. [Then add pointers from all personal pages.]
>
> Does it sound like a flyer to anyone?
>

I'd be up fer that one
I'll need some security and a metal detector
considering all the death threats I've got lately

John Shumate

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Jan 22, 1997, 3:00:00 AM1/22/97
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Ric Harwood

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Jan 22, 1997, 3:00:00 AM1/22/97
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In alt.surfing, <5bm32l$h...@nicaragua.earthlink.net>,

ri...@mesagroup.com (Rick Ciaccio), Rick Ciaccio wrote:

> It'd be a heck of
>a party to get all together for a beach bash... it would be a revealing session
>to say the least when we hit the breakers. :-)

Damn fine idea Rick!!

It will probably be '98 before I'm in the western hemisphere with
enough leave and cash to join the fun, but I'm keen to do it one day.
[put faces to flames <g> ] I know of other European alt.surfers who
would be willing and able.

How about making some attempt at an annual or bi-annual thing? Maybe
even a word tour, Americas-Oceania-Europe. With the hope that if
people can not make it one year then they might in another.

If we could chose some time of year that is most likely to good for a
larger number of people and plan it well ahead, [and perhaps try to
do a little more than a couple of beers on the beach.] There is more
possibility of a good turnout if people can plan around it.

IMHO the first should be in Cali, just because there is a larger
number of surfers and alt.surfers there. I figure somewhere with a
nice easy break so that those lower down the learning curve can join
the fun. Alcohol on the beach must be permitted, presumably camping
or housing nearby. Date: any w/e you like, up to you to say what's
best.

When there is a date/place it can be posted regularly to the group
and maillists to maintain support and momentum. We can do a web site
with details, perhaps a promise form so that people know who intends
to go. [Then add pointers from all personal pages.]

Does it sound like a flyer to anyone?

Ric
--
EuroSurf forecasts: http://www.discoveryinternational.com/ric/surf.htm
PGP public Key ID: 0766ABE5

nys...@earthlink.net

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Jan 22, 1997, 3:00:00 AM1/22/97
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On Sun, 12 Jan 1997 18:57:13 -0800, Cool Hand Luke <de...@on.arrival>
wrote:

>Enough is enough...it. By now you may be wondering who this dickhead is? So without


>any further procrastination (verbal masterbation in his own words) I
>like to introduce to you the festering sore of alt.surfing: Sandman the
>ultimate Pussy of Surf.

Cool Hand Luke,

many have felt the same way you have about the Sandman over time and
yet he's still around. My best bet is he lives for this stuff. If you
ignore him eventually he'll mellow out or go away. Don't let him get
to you.

Timothy B. Maddux

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Jan 22, 1997, 3:00:00 AM1/22/97
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In article <32e34a9c...@news.demon.co.uk>,

Ric Harwood <r...@discoveryinternational.com> wrote:
>Does it sound like a flyer to anyone?

Sounds like a blast to me, I'd be up for it.

On a similar note, we used to have something called
'World Surf Day' back in the days when there were a
lot of surf reports going around. Everyone surfs on
the same day and mails a report to a central location
where it gets collated and posted to the group.

I think it failed back in '95 due to overwhelming lack
of interest. Worth resurrecting?

--
.-``'. Timothy B. Maddux, Ocean Engineering Lab, UCSB

.` .`~ Santa Barbara Surfing - http://www.me.ucsb.edu/~tbmaddux/
_.-' '._ Ahooooooooooooooooooooooooooo-Oooooooooooooooooooooooo!

Foondoggy<wfover@nist.gov

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Jan 23, 1997, 3:00:00 AM1/23/97
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ri...@mesagroup.com (Rick Ciaccio), Rick Ciaccio wrote:
>
> > It'd be a heck of
> >a party to get all together for a beach bash... it would be a revealing
session
> >to say the least when we hit the breakers. :-)
>
> Damn fine idea Rick!!
>

> IMHO the first should be in Cali, just because there is a larger
> number of surfers and alt.surfers there. I figure somewhere with a
> nice easy break so that those lower down the learning curve can join
> the fun. Alcohol on the beach must be permitted, presumably camping
> or housing nearby. Date: any w/e you like, up to you to say what's
> best.
>
Does it sound like a flyer to anyone?
>
> Ric

I vote for the Outer Banks in Sept. or Oct. Reasons:

1.Equidistant between Cali and Europe.
2.Ample camping, housing, and activities for those who bring family and
who are non-surfers.
3.Best time of year for waves with hurricane activity.
4.Summerlike water and air temps (no wetsuits needed)
5.Best pulled pork barbacue in the World.
6.Fresh fish to eat right off your local fishermans hook.
7.Southern Belles will make you crazy.
8.Low Aggrotude level, nearly 100 miles of classic beach and pier breaks,
you get to pick your own difficulty and crowd density level.
9.Southern hospitality is world famous.
10. I'm more likely to show up, it's only a 6 hour ride from the FoonPalace

Geez, I could go on but it's easy to see the Right Coast is the most
likely choice. I recommend you check out the website for the Outer Banks
http://www.outer-banks.nc.us and see what they offer.

-Foondoggy (North Carolina motto "Party we Must!")
-------------------==== Posted via Deja News ====-----------------------
http://www.dejanews.com/ Search, Read, Post to Usenet

fle...@thegrid.net

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Jan 23, 1997, 3:00:00 AM1/23/97
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I offer Crazy Joe's Sunset Lounge for your beach bash. Free private surf
and security. It's all paid for already, so let's use it before June.
I'll sponser the wild pig luau on the beach here. You bring good vibes
and fun times.
--

_/ _/ _/ _/ (fle...@thegrid.net)
_/ _/ _/ _/ Crazy Joe's Sunset Lounge
_/ _/ _/ http://www.thegrid.net/fleming/

fle...@thegrid.net

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Jan 23, 1997, 3:00:00 AM1/23/97
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Once again, I will sponser the whole deal if you do it before June.

tm...@psych.ucla.edu

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Jan 23, 1997, 3:00:00 AM1/23/97
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Where's that guy who bought the house at Rincon ??

terry
tm...@psych.ucla.edu

Stephen Hull

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Jan 23, 1997, 3:00:00 AM1/23/97
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Foondoggy wrote:
>
> ri...@mesagroup.com (Rick Ciaccio), Rick Ciaccio wrote:
> >
> > > It'd be a heck of
> > >a party to get all together for a beach bash... it would be a revealing
> session
> > >to say the least when we hit the breakers. :-)
> >
> > Damn fine idea Rick!!
> >
>
> > IMHO the first should be in Cali, just because there is a larger
> > number of surfers and alt.surfers there. I figure somewhere with a
> > nice easy break so that those lower down the learning curve can join
> > the fun. Alcohol on the beach must be permitted, presumably camping
> > or housing nearby. Date: any w/e you like, up to you to say what's
> > best.
> >
> Does it sound like a flyer to anyone?
> >
> > Ric
>
> I vote for the Outer Banks in Sept. or Oct. Reasons:
>
[reasons snipped]

> -Foondoggy (North Carolina motto "Party we Must!")
> -------------------==== Posted via Deja News ====-----------------------
> http://www.dejanews.com/ Search, Read, Post to Usenet

Southern Cali makes sense only because so many participants are west
coast, and there is a greater likelihood of swellage in summer. Although
maybe we should make use of Foon's beachfront house, before it gets
blown/swept away.

An alternative would be regional rendevouz', documented and posted, with
the odd global planned well in advance (couple of years).

Wasn't there some get together a couple of year ago? I seem to recall
someone had a homepage with a description.

da hulk,MBS

Rob Cummings

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Jan 24, 1997, 3:00:00 AM1/24/97
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In article <5c61l6$4...@abalone.ucsb.edu>, tbma...@abalone.ucsb.edu

(Timothy B. Maddux) wrote:
>
> On a similar note, we used to have something called
> 'World Surf Day' back in the days when there were a
> lot of surf reports going around. Everyone surfs on
> the same day and mails a report to a central location
> where it gets collated and posted to the group.
>
--------------------------------------

Great idea! I'd like to see a lot more session stories on alt.surfing
since the winter's getting kinda long here in NYC. Pick a day -- I guess a
Saturday or a Sunday would be best to get more of the working stiffs in
the water -- then we can all asynchronously brag about what awesome
simultaneous sessions we had.

C. Myron Ware

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Jan 27, 1997, 3:00:00 AM1/27/97
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Stephen Hull <sh...@cats.ucsc.edu> wrote:

>Foondoggy wrote:
>> I vote for the Outer Banks in Sept. or Oct. Reasons:
>[reasons snipped]
>> -Foondoggy (North Carolina motto "Party we Must!")
>Southern Cali makes sense only because so many participants are west
>coast, and there is a greater likelihood of swellage in summer. Although
>maybe we should make use of Foon's beachfront house, before it gets
>blown/swept away.
>An alternative would be regional rendevouz', documented and posted, with
>the odd global planned well in advance (couple of years).
>Wasn't there some get together a couple of year ago? I seem to recall
>someone had a homepage with a description.

Maybe a simultaneous bash could happen. One on the west coast
somewhere, and then one on the Outer Banks for we east coasters. It
would be the perfect trip to break-in the old Scout I'm restoring.
Come on warm weather,
Myron
C. Myron Ware Senior Prog/An, CNE3/CNA4 | NASA Langley Research Center
Voice (757) 864-9250 Fax (757) 864-7676 | 13 Langley Blvd, MS 157B
Email c.m....@hobbes.larc.nasa.gov | Hampton, Va 23681


Peter Watkinson

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Jan 27, 1997, 3:00:00 AM1/27/97
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Does that include flights and accomodation from the UK????

Thanks very much I'll have two tickets :-))))))


Stephen Hull

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Jan 27, 1997, 3:00:00 AM1/27/97
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Stephen Hull wrote:
[Comments snipped]

As a semi-professional organizational development "expert" specializing
in non-organizations like alt.surfing, this will not ever get off the
ground unless the following happens:

It starts with regional gatherings to which everyone is invited. (East
Coast US, West Coast US, Europe, Hawaii, Aussie, Kiwi, Japan, South
Africa, etc.)

We don't wait for everyone in the newsgroup to agree on a
time/place/etc.

Some group of folks is willing to "host" it, which means they decide it
will be at XX place, at XX time, and will involve XX activities.

Offer something everyone can take home with them.(t-shirt, awards,
etc.)if you can't find sponsers who will do it, and participants need to
chip in for them, so be it. I'm sure if we are willing to go to the
trouble of attending we can chip in a bit to make it worthwhile.

Post an invitation with proposed specifics and see how many takers, then
develop details based on estimated numbers.

Post an itinerary. Keep it simple to start. If there's a decent
turnout, and everyone has a good time, others will try to outdo it next
time.

Give everyone about 3-4 months advance notice. If you are relying on
state parks or campgrounds in Cali maybe a little more so reservations
can get in.

This is the basic "field of dreams" model, "Build it and they will
come."

I'd like to attend but I need details before I can make a commitment. I
suspect everyone is waiting for someone else to make a move.

da hulk, MBS

Ric Harwood

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Jan 27, 1997, 3:00:00 AM1/27/97
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In alt.surfing, <8540263...@dejanews.com>,

Foondoggy<wfo...@nist.gov, Foondoggy<wfo...@nist.gov wrote:


>I vote for the Outer Banks in Sept. or Oct. Reasons:

September is after the UK school kids go back, so we may lose some
parents, [but are there many here?] But it is before the Uni's go
back, and some students try to work the early summer then try to get
a couple of weeks away before returning. Sept is especially good for
this as it's our best surf month too.


<SNIP> lots of good reasons.

With folks in NC I'll be more likely to make an early east coast bash
if I'm still on a shoestring.

Ric.

Ric Harwood

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Jan 27, 1997, 3:00:00 AM1/27/97
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In alt.surfing, <5c61l6$4...@abalone.ucsb.edu>,
tbma...@abalone.ucsb.edu (Timothy B. Maddux), Timothy B. Maddux
wrote:


>
>I think it failed back in '95 due to overwhelming lack
>of interest. Worth resurrecting?

Damn Fine Idea!

Possibly May or June would be good, then it is warm enough to get
some of our wimps back into the water, but the UK is less likely to
get completely skunked than later in the summer.

Surfer Bob

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Jan 27, 1997, 3:00:00 AM1/27/97
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Hmmm...

Lest anyone mistake my meaning, I LIKE The Sandman. :-)

He's one of the nicest, most personable antisocial
raving lunatics I've run across in quite a while.

Yeah, he kind of tends to self-aggrandizement, "Us vs. Them" rants, and
he always writes about himself in the third person, but whatever.
Becoming an extremely opinionated weirdo is one of the occupational
hazards of surfing for life. Besides, if you can't cop an attitude on
the internet, where are ya gonna do it?

Anyone who finds fault with him should try surfing water that cold, dark
and frigging far from home for a few years and see how twisted and
antisocial you get.

I did kind of hope he'd flame the shit out of that kid though though...
Probably too busy surfing.

Surfer Bob

Ric Harwood

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In alt.surfing, <32E82B...@slonet.org>, Tauras
<tsul...@slonet.org>, Tauras wrote:

>I'll be there, anytime, might be best to set-up a couple week window
>kinda like the big circus.

Good idea for those with the time, but to get maximum turnout it
would be best to define one weekend, so that those with schedules can
plan well in advance, and have a big doo. I know that it means we
can't rely on waves, but we can rely on seeing more people. Better
that than getting there later to find that "so-and-so" was here last
w/e etc.

Then anyone with time, such as those who have had to book a fortnight
off and fly half way round the world can hang out for a couple weeks.

Peter Watkinson

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On 22 Jan 1997 13:43:02 -0800, tbma...@abalone.ucsb.edu (Timothy B.
Maddux) wrote:

>>Does it sound like a flyer to anyone?
>

>Sounds like a blast to me, I'd be up for it.
>

>On a similar note, we used to have something called
>'World Surf Day' back in the days when there were a
>lot of surf reports going around. Everyone surfs on
>the same day and mails a report to a central location
>where it gets collated and posted to the group.
>

>I think it failed back in '95 due to overwhelming lack
>of interest. Worth resurrecting?
>

Yeah, maybe it would bring Cooktical back ;-))))))))

Timothy B. Maddux

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In article <32ec79e4...@news.demon.co.uk>,

Ric Harwood <r...@discoveryinternational.com> wrote:
>Possibly May or June would be good, then it is warm enough to get
>some of our wimps back into the water, but the UK is less likely to
>get completely skunked than later in the summer.

How about a weekend (more participation likely)?
How does the 24th-25th of May sound (which also
happens to be a U.S. national holiday)?

The first day of (North Hemi) summer might
be good, that's also on a weekend, the 21st-22nd
of June.

I'd be happy to be the email victim/collator
of reports.

--
.-``'. Timothy B. Maddux, Ocean Engineering Lab, UCSB

.` .`~ http://www.engineering.ucsb.edu/~tbmaddux/
_.-' '._ "From the essence of pure stoke springs all creation."

Timothy B. Maddux

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fle...@thegrid.net

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Good idea about setting a date for the World Surf Day. I suggest the
Spring equinox in March.
--

_/ _/ _/ _/ fle...@thegrid.net

Charles Whitacre Cushman 3

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where would me meet?
charlie

Rick Ciaccio

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tbma...@alumnae.caltech.edu (Timothy B. Maddux) wrote:

>In article <32ec79e4...@news.demon.co.uk>,
>Ric Harwood <r...@discoveryinternational.com> wrote:
>>Possibly May or June would be good, then it is warm enough to get
>>some of our wimps back into the water, but the UK is less likely to
>>get completely skunked than later in the summer.

>How about a weekend (more participation likely)?
>How does the 24th-25th of May sound (which also
>happens to be a U.S. national holiday)?

>The first day of (North Hemi) summer might
>be good, that's also on a weekend, the 21st-22nd
>of June.

This time frame sounds *very* good to me. Next question is, where? The last 2
years we have had a very strong series of south swells in So Cal in late May /
June. Warm water, killer spots, I think So Cal is the place. :-)

>I'd be happy to be the email victim/collator
>of reports.

Lets get started !

>--
> .-``'. Timothy B. Maddux, Ocean Engineering Lab, UCSB
> .` .`~ http://www.engineering.ucsb.edu/~tbmaddux/
> _.-' '._ "From the essence of pure stoke springs all creation."


Rick Ciaccio
------------------------------------------
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Ric Harwood

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In alt.surfing, <32EC3...@cats.ucsc.edu>, Stephen Hull
<sh...@cats.ucsc.edu>, Stephen Hull wrote:

<SNIP> how to get a beach bash started.

>This is the basic "field of dreams" model, "Build it and they will
>come."
>
>I'd like to attend but I need details before I can make a commitment. I
>suspect everyone is waiting for someone else to make a move.

I'd agree, and I think that we could be half way there already.
Crazy Joe has offered his place sometime before June, with some ent's
laid on.

Perhaps we can arrange a UK one at the same time.

How about 3-5 or 24-25th May? Both UK Bank holidays, the latter at
the start of school half term and before College exams, should suit
the max number of people here. [It's also tends to be a bit of a zoo,
so location choice is important.]

Probably Somewhere like Watergate, Perran or Llangeneth?
Plus Crazy Joes for those able to get there.

Ric Harwood

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In alt.surfing, <5ck0re$o...@gap.cco.caltech.edu>,
tbma...@alumnae.caltech.edu (Timothy B. Maddux), Timothy B. Maddux
wrote:

>In article <32ec79e4...@news.demon.co.uk>,
>Ric Harwood <r...@discoveryinternational.com> wrote:
>>Possibly May or June would be good, then it is warm enough to get
>>some of our wimps back into the water, but the UK is less likely to
>>get completely skunked than later in the summer.
>
>How about a weekend (more participation likely)?
>How does the 24th-25th of May sound (which also
>happens to be a U.S. national holiday)?

Sounds good. That's the first w/e of school Half term. Also a UK bank
holiday, as mentioned in a post above.

Is it worth trying to beach bash it at at the same time?
If you can join the fun at one of the gatherings then great, if not
catch a wave and post a report.

>The first day of (North Hemi) summer might
>be good, that's also on a weekend, the 21st-22nd
>of June.

Plus near the summer solstice and a Full moon. Also a cool date.

Timothy B. Maddux

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Clarification (I've gotten some email responses about this),
what I describe as "World Surf Day '97" would not entail anyone
actually meeting-up, but rather everyone surfing wherever they
want on the day we decide (all over the world). Then send
someone (me) the report(s), I'll collate them and post the
results!

Lurkers of course would be greatly encouraged to participate.
A great time to get started on posting reports.

Is it worth trying?

Your Name Here

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You have some great ideas. Mabye you can help me. I have a special sound
system that can run for miles down the beach and we use it for our local surf
contests, sand castle building contests, and festivals. It really make the
event much more productive since everyone, even the surfers can clearly hear
the announcements, music, etc. Since everyone in the sound company surfs we
would like to demo or provide this service all over. If you have any advice
or questions please let me know.

Thanks,Roger rsch...@spdc.ti.com

will travel.


In article <32EC3...@cats.ucsc.edu>, sh...@cats.ucsc.edu says...


>
>Stephen Hull wrote:
>[Comments snipped]
>
>As a semi-professional organizational development "expert" specializing
>in non-organizations like alt.surfing, this will not ever get off the
>ground unless the following happens:
>
>It starts with regional gatherings to which everyone is invited. (East
>Coast US, West Coast US, Europe, Hawaii, Aussie, Kiwi, Japan, South
>Africa, etc.)
>
>We don't wait for everyone in the newsgroup to agree on a
>time/place/etc.
>
>Some group of folks is willing to "host" it, which means they decide it
>will be at XX place, at XX time, and will involve XX activities.
>
>Offer something everyone can take home with them.(t-shirt, awards,
>etc.)if you can't find sponsers who will do it, and participants need to
>chip in for them, so be it. I'm sure if we are willing to go to the
>trouble of attending we can chip in a bit to make it worthwhile.
>
>Post an invitation with proposed specifics and see how many takers, then
>develop details based on estimated numbers.
>
>Post an itinerary. Keep it simple to start. If there's a decent
>turnout, and everyone has a good time, others will try to outdo it next
>time.
>
>Give everyone about 3-4 months advance notice. If you are relying on
>state parks or campgrounds in Cali maybe a little more so reservations
>can get in.
>

>This is the basic "field of dreams" model, "Build it and they will
>come."
>
>I'd like to attend but I need details before I can make a commitment. I
>suspect everyone is waiting for someone else to make a move.
>

>da hulk, MBS


R. Jackson

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On 28 Jan 1997, Timothy B. Maddux wrote:

> >Possibly May or June would be good.....

> .....The first day of (North Hemi) summer might


> be good, that's also on a weekend, the 21st-22nd
> of June.

skool ain't out until june 13th, for those of us on the
quarter system. i think the idea of a surf-in would work -
don't drop it so fast. come late june, i'd travel back to
hawaii, maybe even so-cal if i was forced to.

hey, the front page of the times is small town, guys. you
could take this "nationwide", and even further if you could
make the cover of time. hell, i could get the folks across
town at "outside online" to cover it myself! if you're going
to do it, you have to do it BIG - all you big mouths out there...
...don't you have something you want to tell the world? then build
a stage...

ranjack

"to everything, there is a season...
...a time to make waves - a time to surf them"

Timothy B. Maddux

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In article <32ef54dd...@news.demon.co.uk>,

Ric Harwood <r...@discoveryinternational.com> wrote:
>Is it worth trying to beach bash it at at the same time?
>If you can join the fun at one of the gatherings then great, if not
>catch a wave and post a report.

I don't see why not, though in principle they
are pretty different notions. W.R.T. the beach
bash, Stephen Hull had what I thought was an
excellent set of points about trying to start
the thing up locally.

Perhaps the two could be somehow amalgamated, do several
beach bashes around the planet and post reports on them?

So far the 21st-22nd of June seems to be getting
favorable feedback.

Ric Harwood

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In alt.surfing, <5cp81e$h...@gap.cco.caltech.edu>,

tbma...@alumnae.caltech.edu (Timothy B. Maddux), Timothy B. Maddux
wrote:

>Clarification (I've gotten some email responses about this),


>what I describe as "World Surf Day '97" would not entail anyone
>actually meeting-up, but rather everyone surfing wherever they
>want on the day we decide (all over the world). Then send
>someone (me) the report(s), I'll collate them and post the
>results!

Do we want to do this at the same time as the beach bash, or
deliberately chose two different w/e's?


>Is it worth trying?

Yes!

Peter Watkinson

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On Wed, 29 Jan 1997 22:20:32 GMT, ri...@mesagroup.com (Rick Ciaccio)
wrote:

>tbma...@alumnae.caltech.edu (Timothy B. Maddux) wrote:
>

>>In article <32ec79e4...@news.demon.co.uk>,


>>Ric Harwood <r...@discoveryinternational.com> wrote:
>>>Possibly May or June would be good, then it is warm enough to get
>>>some of our wimps back into the water, but the UK is less likely to
>>>get completely skunked than later in the summer.
>
>>How about a weekend (more participation likely)?
>>How does the 24th-25th of May sound (which also
>>happens to be a U.S. national holiday)?
>

>>The first day of (North Hemi) summer might
>>be good, that's also on a weekend, the 21st-22nd
>>of June.
>

>This time frame sounds *very* good to me. Next question is, where? The last 2
>years we have had a very strong series of south swells in So Cal in late May /
>June. Warm water, killer spots, I think So Cal is the place. :-)
>
>>I'd be happy to be the email victim/collator
>>of reports.
>
>Lets get started !
>

>>--
>> .-``'. Timothy B. Maddux, Ocean Engineering Lab, UCSB
>> .` .`~ http://www.engineering.ucsb.edu/~tbmaddux/
>> _.-' '._ "From the essence of pure stoke springs all creation."
>
>

>Rick Ciaccio
>------------------------------------------
>Wedge Preservation Society - www.wedge.org
>Mesa Internet Servers - www.mesagroup.com
>


How about a world flame day.

Pick a person/subject in a newsgroup flame the f**n out of them/it and
cross post it to alt.surfing.....

Oh well maybe not

Sounds like a lot of fun though..

Could be good trick to try out on biz.* alt.religion and
alt.bestskagroup in revenge for all the junk that's ended up in here
lately.


Kenneth Powell

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tbma...@alumnae.caltech.edu (Timothy B. Maddux) wrote:

>Is it worth trying?

May 24-25? I'll be surfing and can be posting! (It'll be cold...)


--
k...@iways.com
(Kenneth Powell)

Helge Weissig

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Sounds like something is brewing here. I am definitely interested but
most likely limited to the right coast this year. However, I promise
some Surfrider support :)

As for the date, how about Clean Water Day (sometime in August) or to-
gether with this years 10,000 person paddle in Ocean Beach (SD)? That
might actually be on Clean Water Day....

for the ocean,
h.


/----------------------------------------------------------------------
/ Helge Weissig
/ San Diego County Chapter, Surfrider Foundation
/ http://www.sdsc.edu/~sdccsf/ info line: (619) 792 9940
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/ lynx NOW!!" -- somewhere out there

Dano

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Sort of like the "Day In The Life Of..." photo book series, but
coordinated by the Internet.
The media would love it. But appeasing those weasels doesn't make me too
happy...

Dano

Not lurking any longer....


> Clarification (I've gotten some email responses about this),
> what I describe as "World Surf Day '97" would not entail anyone
> actually meeting-up, but rather everyone surfing wherever they
> want on the day we decide (all over the world). Then send
> someone (me) the report(s), I'll collate them and post the
> results!
>

> Lurkers of course would be greatly encouraged to participate.

--
Pray for surf!

Ric Harwood

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In alt.surfing,
<Pine.A41.3.95b.97013...@homer23.u.washington.edu>,

"R. Jackson" <ran...@u.washington.edu>, R. Jackson wrote:

>hey, the front page of the times is small town, guys. you
>could take this "nationwide", and even further if you could
>make the cover of time. hell, i could get the folks across
>town at "outside online" to cover it myself! if you're going


'Tis an idea. As long as we finalise dates for the Word surf day,
[or the beach bash] soon enough we could take it out to the paper
press.

pto...@aol.com

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In article <5crurh$3...@rosebud.sdsc.edu>, hel...@surfer.sdsc.edu (Helge
Weissig) writes:

>As for the date, how about Clean Water Day (sometime in August)

Ooh.. that's a scarey date ! Got a feeling that might clash with Flat
Surf Day [Northern Hemi]. I'm betting on 24th-25th of May or 21st-22nd
of June [providing I don't manage to scam a ticket to Glastonbury].

Nancy Jean Travis

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Timothy B. Maddux wrote:
>
> Clarification (I've gotten some email responses about this),
> what I describe as "World Surf Day '97" would not entail anyone
> actually meeting-up, but rather everyone surfing wherever they
> want on the day we decide (all over the world). Then send
> someone (me) the report(s), I'll collate them and post the
> results!

YAAAAR!! It so happens I was just reading my old 1993 Tide
Log/journal, a very good year. Doesn't everybody read old
tide books fark! Soooo April 3rd was out first World Surf Day,
1993. We tried to set it as close to April Fools Day as
possible as I recall. Also, my journal notes say we took a
non-surfer friend (wind surfer) Dean out for his christening
that day and the poor bastard forgot he had no sail to hang
on to...elevator dropped an 8 footer and I'll neva forget the
look on his face when he hit the pit and realized HE DIDN"T
KNOW HOW TO TURN YET! Yeah! I had dropped in on him (or course)
so I got a close up look at it, I couldn't believe he was goin!!!
That was before he knew better ;-) Also same journal, same first
World Surf Day, we had a contest to see who could get a
J out into the lineup dry and there were three successful
entries...you can imagine the crew with paper towels and
baggies trying to pass this reef around without getting it
wet and snuffing it out.....THEN to realize we were bonged,
paranoid and the surf was 8 to 10 backs. Ah 1993, let's
definitely repeat that !!!!! April Fools Day or close to
Easter will be the time....I volunteer to surf Gnarabup,
someone has to go oooooooB-)

Fang the Feral

ps Hello Mom

Nancy Jean Travis

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Your Name Here (Nancy, aka Hey You) wrote:
>
> You have some great ideas. Mabye you can help me. I have a special sound
> system that can run for miles down the beach and we use it for our local surf
> contests, sand castle building contests, and festivals. It really make the

FARK except the sand castles.

> event much more productive since everyone, even the surfers can clearly hear
> the announcements, music, etc.


WHAT WHAT WHAT did ja say? Anarchists aginst announcements, etc.

> Since everyone in the sound company surfs we
> would like to demo or provide this service all over.

Go surfin. Actually no insult intended Rog but silence is
as golden as swell is ..... swell

> If you have any advice

You didnt have to ask ;-)


.
>
> In article <32EC3...@cats.ucsc.edu>, sh...@cats.ucsc.edu says...
> >
> >Stephen Hull wrote:
> >[Comments snipped]
> >
> >As a semi-professional organizational development "expert" specializing
> >in non-organizations like alt.surfing, this will not ever get off the
> >ground unless the following happens:

Hull...
Excuse my ignorance if this is off topic but i've been away....
I assume you mean world surf day.... This DO get off the ground because
it is not an event it is a happenin'

We don't get together-----we get away...as far out as......!
See ya out there.

fang the feral

Timothy B. Maddux

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In article <32F546...@surfergrrl.com>,
Nancy Jean Travis <fa...@surfergrrl.com> wrote:
>... we had a contest to see who could get a
>J out into the lineup dry...

Wow. I haven't heard Fang talk about *that*
kind of stuff since that old recipe with the
green butter...

Ok, it seems like there's enough support for
the idea in general. We've got March 24th-25th,
March 29th-30th (Easter, close to the April
Fools mark), June 21st-22nd. Any other nominations?
Should we vote?

Ben Tye

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Ben Tye

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Ric,

I'd be well up for a meet up in the UK, we could get all the Swansea Surf
Page regulars in as well.

Count me in,

Ben Tye

aka Skinny Benny

John Althouse

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Super idea, I surf and am professional photographer, would liek to join
in if it's a hap...
--
John
...all things are connected...

Larry Carlson

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Timothy B. Maddux (tbma...@alumnae.caltech.edu) wrote:

: Ok, it seems like there's enough support for


: the idea in general. We've got March 24th-25th,
: March 29th-30th (Easter, close to the April
: Fools mark), June 21st-22nd. Any other nominations?
: Should we vote?

It's good to hear from fang, finally (but it could be my server, too)
but I still vote for late may early June. Hopefully I'll be by a beach
by then......

=====================================================================================

How can you have a good life if you surf?
Stay wet.......and tan...
Peace.

Larry S Carlson

Helge Weissig

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In article <19970201190...@ladder01.news.aol.com>,

hmmm... the year before last it was indeed kinda flat. Last year it was
overhead on the big sets I was told. Anyways, late spring is probably a
safer bet and I am still game :))

gadg...@aol.com

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I vote for 24-26th may, UK Spring bank holiday.

Same goes for the Beach Bash.
If I'm gonna surf in a crowd, I'd rather it's an
alt.surfing crowd. Somewhere near Newquay is
probably a practical and democratic option
[that'll piss off the Welsh and Scots].

Hang on, hang on ! I've got a better way of
pissing off the Scots.
Lets all scoot up to T-land [Scotland's top end], we
keep hearing about how good it gets. If we do it
in mid June, we can roll out of the pub at 11pm a
nd go "surfin' in the gloamin' ".
Has this got legs?

--------------------------------------------------------------------------
Gadget Bude, Cornwall, UK email: gadg...@aol.com
"Silence is not only golden; it is seldom misquoted."
-- Bob Monkhouse
--------------------------------------------------------------------------


Surfer Bob

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>Foondoggy wrote:
> I vote for the Outer Banks in Sept. or Oct...
> -Foondoggy (North Carolina motto "Party we Must!")... Although
>maybe we should make use of Foon's beachfront house, before it gets
>blown/swept away.

So I wrote:
Shit man, I would LOVE to surf the outer banks. I can't think of a
better host than The Foonz. Wouldn't we need marine access via some high
powered foonboat or other though?

Then Foon wrote further:
> Maybe a simultaneous bash could happen. One on the west coast
> somewhere, and then one on the Outer Banks for we east coasters.

So I wrote further:
What a good idea. This is a very real world solution. Maybe our UK
contingent can scrape together a few Europeans for a surf over there
too. Bottom line is with plans to date, I'm pretty max-ed out for '97
vacation. I'd be much more likely to attend a west coast deal in '97.

How about annual (or biannual, or whatever) east and west coast events,
and attend the other coast one if you can, the same coast one if it's
all you can manage? I'll do W coast this year and plan for the Outer
Banks in '98.

BTW, when are we going to all go mindsurfing on Lake Erie with Surff?

Stoked,
Surfer Bob

Stephen Hull

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Ric Harwood wrote:
[my stuff snipped]

> >I'd like to attend but I need details before I can make a commitment. I
> >suspect everyone is waiting for someone else to make a move.
>

> I'd agree, and I think that we could be half way there already.
> Crazy Joe has offered his place sometime before June, with some ent's
> laid on.

Not sure exactly where this location is...

>
[ric's cool european suggestions]

I have been out sick for a while (flu) but I like the idea of
piggybacking on an existing event...

How's this...

Hold a West Coast US day on a weekend concurrent with the Huntington
Beach OP Pro or another of the big surf events they host during
July/August. The advantages include central SoCal access, public
beaches, decent weather, good chance of a south swell...

Surf, tunes, BBQ...I could dig it.

da hulk,RSO

zpj...@unl.ac.uk

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In article <5d789g$8...@pleides.cloudnet.com>, sur...@antares.cloudnet.com (Larry Carlson) writes:
>Timothy B. Maddux (tbma...@alumnae.caltech.edu) wrote:
>
>: Ok, it seems like there's enough support for
>: the idea in general. We've got March 24th-25th,
>: March 29th-30th (Easter, close to the April
>: Fools mark), June 21st-22nd. Any other nominations?
>: Should we vote?
>

There's more chance of a swell over here in England than in June, so
March would be better for us.


James
London Surf Club
http://www.unl.ac.uk/surfing/lsc.html

Nancy Jean Travis

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I vote Easter. As a born again surfer...and again and a gin...
Close enuff to April Fools Day to humor Huey aswell.

Fang

Dano

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In article <19970204212...@ladder01.news.aol.com>,
gadg...@aol.com wrote:

> I vote for 24-26th may, UK Spring bank holiday.
>

Geez, if we make it late May early June then it's gonna stink here in
SoCal....either it'll be flat and choppy or it'll be flat and really
choppy...with fog.

Dano

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Feb 11, 1997, 3:00:00 AM2/11/97
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da...@west.nest (Dano) writes:

>Geez, if we make it late May early June then it's gonna stink here in
>SoCal....either it'll be flat and choppy or it'll be flat and really
>choppy...with fog.

Valid point. I suppose it would have to be a
day that would give a fair chance of decent
swell for both Northern and Southern hemi's.
Spring or Autumn equinox might be goodies.
Weekends of March 29-30 and April 5-6.

Autumn is often better for swell and warm
water in the Northern hemi. How about
Sept 20-21, 27-28 or Oct 4-5?

Autumn is the one I would go for, if I was
thinking purely about the conditions.

I suppose the Easter weekend [March 29-30]
has to be the one though. Gives the hard
workers and kiddies a chance. Unless family
commitments are a problem.

I sometimes wonder why we are so keen to meet up.
Most of the time we are bitching about surfing in a
crowd... and here we are desparate to huddle.

Herd instinct must be strong.


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