The Shame of San Francisco - Jennifer Usher - Speaks!
Nomen Nescio
the groups and making disparaging remarks
about post-operative TS women (a group which you
will never be included within).
Have you tricked any healh care pros to
give you another pregnancy test lately?
Maybe you should stop drinking and eating
all that meat so you might lose that
pot-belly (very manly stature, by the way).
May you get everything you deserve!
Jennifer Usher, aka, <true_tra...@yahoo.com> wrote in message news:1124585087.6...@f14g2000cwb.googlegroups.com...
> Okay, since the last time I delurked, William has continued to provoke
> and flame. Now he is on one of his "lets all get along kicks," which
> actually means, "Let me say anything I want, but dont anyone dare
> disagree with me."
>
> The bottom line on Blanchard and Bailey is, they are OLD news. They
> are NOT taken seriously by anyone with any real credibility in the
> fields of research or treatment. Bailey, in particular, is a joke.
> They set out to discredit transsexuals and failed. Blanchard was never
> of any significance, and as I said, Bailey is a joke. His study on
> bisexuals has really made him look foolish. It is not worth the time
> or bandwidth to argue with Arune on this. He is whoring for a lost
> cause.
>
> Oh, and I recall the last time I was here that Lyle made a claim that I
> could not conceive fo a "transgender" person being happy or successful
> without SRS. I never got around to responding. The actual truth is, I
> know a number of such people, but Lyle is clearly not one of them..
>
> You see, Arune and Lyle are self-hating. They have never really
> succeeded in anything as regards their imagined womanhood. And they
> feel a compulsion to impose there self-hatred on others. As I have
> pointed out, they dont just describe themselves, they try to force
> their self-hating labels on others. They didnt make the cut (yes, I
> think that pun was intended) and they cannot remotely stand the idea
> that anyone else has either. They are incredibly insecure, and they go
> beserk when others are not.
>
> For example, look at how they both react to any hint that they may not
> be really women. Someone says that to me, and yes, it has happened,
> and I have a good chuckle, and tell them that while they are entitled
> to there opinion, it makes no difference. You see, someone telling me
> I am a man would make no difference, simply because I know better.
> Someone tells that to one of them, and it simply confirms what they are
> trying to deny.
>
> Well, I apologize for not honoring the illusion that there is some new
> outbreak of peace here. The first time someone disagrees with Arune,
> or even mentions that someone might be a man, things will erupt. I
> watched the hilarity when one new poster, I think Misu was her name,
> just hinted that some here might be men. Arune immediately went on the
> defensive.
>
> No, this place is not worth much time, but it does warrant the
> occasional visit to make a few comments.
>
> And again, leopards, as they say, dont change their spots. The only
> way there will ever be peace here is when the men leave. And I dont
> seem Lyle and William doing that. After all, it wouldnt be manly.
>
Willow Arune
What a shame.
Usher, please take a look that the post form you mentor, a
Andréa. Self loathing? You got it - her. AG - her too. Read that, take
100 aspirin, and see us all in the morning...I know you continue to apply
male pronouns to females. Do you do that at work as well, and shall I
again notify your employer?
TTFN,
Willow
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"Nomen Nescio" <nob...@dizum.com> wrote in message
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Mable the Storm Goat
"Willow Arune" <pang...@shaw.ca> wrote:
> Two thing that Jennifer Usher still walks the earth!]
>
> What a shame.
>
> Usher, please take a look that the post form you mentor, a
> Andréa. Self loathing? You got it - her. AG - her too. Read that,
> take 100 aspirin, and see us all in the morning...I know you continue
> to apply male pronouns to females. Do you do that at work as well,
> and shall I again notify your employer?
>
> TTFN,
> Willow
"true_transsexual" is not Jennifer Usher.
And I wish to point out that the word of the anon poster is mighty thin
evidence. You may want to look into raising your threshold for action
just a tad there, Willow.
:)
--mtsg
Mable the Storm Goat
:)
--mtsg
maryanne
"Willow Arune" <pang...@shaw.ca> wrote in message
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> Two thing that Jennifer Usher still walks the earth!]
>
> What a shame.
>
> Usher, please take a look that the post form you mentor, a
> Andréa. Self loathing? You got it - her. AG - her too. Read that, take
> 100 aspirin, and see us all in the morning...I know you continue to apply
> male pronouns to females. Do you do that at work as well, and shall I
> again notify your employer?
>
> TTFN,
> Willow
Willow,
I just finished sticking my neck out for you by asking that person who
attacked you again to please let it go. You are really a beauty! You
deserve whatever happens. You instigate people into saying nasty things
about you...then you play dumb, say that it is their fault and you can't
even atone for you own stupid mistakes.
I'm out of here. Have fun making a mess of it all over again. :(
m...................
Sandra
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I seemed to have done the same thing in a different thread. I wonder if
it's the phase of the moon or I just got a tad brain-dead from all the
peace and quiet. I'm sure Willow will agree that peace is an inherently
boring state. Try watching a novel or movie or television show that has
no conflict and you'll see what I mean. Conflict is so much more
entertaining isn't it. :P
Sandra
Willow Arune
I am indeed restraining replies, very much so. The comments quoted from
James are James' comments, make of them what you will. The aspirin
reference was intended as fun, to show that her remarks were not taken
seriously.
And yes, assuming this to be Usher, I do not believe she should work in an
organization which attempts to deal with TG matters when she hates TGs and
calls them by male pronouns. Do you think otherwise. I mean, if a person
such as Usher were hired by a TG group in your area, knowing what you know
of her thinking and hates, would you want that??? After all, she only kept
her job by stating to her employer that she would not venture here and make
nasty remarks about other TS or TG, to keep her hates to herself. IF she is
here doing the same, she should be fired.
A person who is bigoted and hates TG or AG TS or other TS not "true
transsexuals" should not be working with an agency that purports to help all
tG residents of an area. It is like hiring a member of the KKK to cater a
meeting if the NAACP. Will she call other tS or TG that she does not
approve of "he"??
TTFN,
Willow
Will
"maryanne" <notme...@whatever.com> wrote in message
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Willow Arune
If this was Usher, which it apparently not, yes I would indeed do so. She
kept her job by agreeing to stay off this list and stop insulting other tS
and TGs. If she breaks that pledge, she should be fired.
TTFN,
Willow
""E"" <now...@nowhere.com> wrote in message
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>
>
> X-No-Archive: yes
>
> Willow Arune wrote:
> > Two thing that Jennifer Usher still walks the earth!]
> >
> > What a shame.
> >
> > Usher, please take a look that the post form you mentor, a
> > Andréa. Self loathing? You got it - her. AG - her too. Read that,
> > take 100 aspirin, and see us all in the morning...I know you continue
> > to apply male pronouns to females. Do you do that at work as well,
> > and shall I again notify your employer?
>
> God.....what a nasty sore you are....................
>
>
Willow Arune
Certainly discussion must have two or more sides.
I have no problem with that. It is easy to do so and remain civil, without
insulting anyone. Gratuitous insults merely serve to continue the anger.
Nor was I insulting Usher - but rather reminding her (if it was her) of the
pledge she make to keep her job.
James herself mentions self-loathing and such. Not my quote - hers.
TTFN,
Willow
"Sandra" <Sand...@notmyrealaddy.com> wrote in message
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pmb...@yahoo.com
REGARDLESS.
It is repugnant to feel that someone can be so petty as to try and hurt
another.
there is very little difference between trolling and outing.
If anyone can not live with the coments on a newsgroup they should
leave.
rev Pauline Overby
Mable the Storm Goat
"Willow Arune" <pang...@shaw.ca> wrote:
> Please see my reply to Maryanne below.
>
> If this was Usher, which it apparently not, yes I would indeed do so.
> She kept her job by agreeing to stay off this list and stop insulting
> other tS and TGs. If she breaks that pledge, she should be fired.
>
That is a misrepresentation of the facts.
The only thing JU got in trouble over was posting while on the clock.
No company can fire a person (not yet in the USA anyway) for posting to
usenet, lol.
--mtsg
Willow Arune
Any organization that treats a special type of people would be damn foolish
to retain a person who hates that same type of person, who thinks herself
"superior" to those who are clients. As stated earlier, the NAACP would
not employ a KKK member as a caterer.
When a person cannot limit their hatred and lets is show when dealing with
customers or clients, or is public in stating her dislike for such types, on
Usenet or not, the employer must be concerned.
TTFN,
Willow
"Mable the Storm Goat" <mable_the_...@yodelayhee.hoo> wrote in
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Willow Arune
Having been outed here for years now, I find it particularly offensive.
Thankfully, as I tend to wards the open side of the ledger, it does not have
negative ramifications.
Andrea James has made outing an art form, not only with myself but with
several others. That is a very ugly thing, yet one which has been
tolerated by the trans community as they have been led down a path.
Angelika knows that well. Others here adopted the practise, in what can
only be viewed as a poor imitation of their mistresses tactics. Andrea was
never as crude as those who practised their art here.
Given the passage of time, it is to be hoped that more will finally see some
light and get off the path chosen for them by powers unknown.
TTFN,
Willow
<pmb...@yahoo.com> wrote in message
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Mable the Storm Goat
"Willow Arune" <pang...@shaw.ca> wrote:
> If that is what you elect to believe, please feel free.
>
> Any organization that treats a special type of people would be damn
> foolish to retain a person who hates that same type of person, who
> thinks herself "superior" to those who are clients. As stated
> earlier, the NAACP would not employ a KKK member as a caterer.
>
> When a person cannot limit their hatred and lets is show when dealing
> with customers or clients, or is public in stating her dislike for
> such types, on Usenet or not, the employer must be concerned.
>
Ironically she hasn't been here in a long time yet you are still
grumbling about her and her "hatred".
--mtsg
Willow Arune
encouraged. Signs of it linger still.
It appeared she had returned, and if so I was very opposed to that and would
have taken steps to insure that return was brief. As it turn out, it was
not here, so this threat about a non-existent return can end.
I do not grumble about her hatred. I despise it and all she stood for. My
grumbles have more to do with the aspects of it that surface still.
TTFN,
Willow
"Mable the Storm Goat" <mable_the_...@yodelayhee.hoo> wrote in
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Mable the Storm Goat
"Willow Arune" <pang...@shaw.ca> wrote:
> Her hatred permeated this group for far to long, unopposed and even
> encouraged. Signs of it linger still.
>
> It appeared she had returned, and if so I was very opposed to that and
> would have taken steps to insure that return was brief.
>
Silly girl, you cannot ensure a given person doesn't post here no
matter how strongly you may feel about it. This is a public forum and
anyone can post here.
>
>As it turn
> out, it was not here, so this threat about a non-existent return can
> end.
>
I can understand you classifying her as a nuisance but a threat?
If we are to change this place the first thing we must do is put it in
perspective: it's a *usenet*group*, and that is all it is. The posts
here will not likely influence policy anywhere. Any
(hypothetical) "offensive opinions" are a threat to *no*one*, they are
just a bunch of words on usenet.
Given all that maintaining the peace really should be a simple matter.
Can't we all just be self-programming?
:)
--mtsg
Willow Arune
Andrea James and Lynn Conway did most of that, with a little help from those
here.
TTFN,
Willow
""E"" <now...@nowhere.com> wrote in message
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> X-No-Archive: yes
>
> Willow Arune wrote:
> > I agree.
> >
> > Having been outed here for years now, I find it particularly
> > offensive. Thankfully, as I tend to wards the open side of the
> > ledger, it does not have negative ramifications.
>
> How could you possibly be outed? You yourself have posted your name,
address
> and email address all over the web. You have posted links to newspaper
> articles which used your old name. What is left to out?
>
>