Why are Sprog Poppers So Important?
TyphonBlue
saintly MOTHER being trotted out, benefits and breaks being piled on... why?
Why has it changed so much?
Because the gubmint is seeing a derth of the ever-so-important angelic WHITE
baby in the future. Yep, birth rates are dropping amongst whites and they
are terrified of being "overrun" by minorities.
So whenever you see yet another squicky moment of mombie adoration, another
scene of the fleshloaf being held above all, remember that it's being done
in responce to a declining population. I find that thought comforting.
That and visions of a virulent flu epidemic on the scale of 1918, (the
estimates range from 1/10th to 1/4th of the population extingushed so today
that would be 600 mill to 1.5 billion LESS people.) or world war three
(fought with these irritating teenagers who seem to need something to do.
Would being blown to smithereens fit the bill?), or mass suicide... Makes
Typhon very, very happy.
Typhon (NEGATIVE population growth NOW)
Who thinks entirely too many humans that don't seem to be benefiting either
themselves or anyone else exist. Who also thinks everyone should start out
sterile and have to give a very *good* reason why they should have kids (I'm
talking a 50 page proposal (points for creativity), plus relevant education,
plus genetic tests... etc.). Why should artists have to go through a series
of hoops to get money to sponsor activities that will enrich the world when
the average breeder only has to spread her legs?
nosp...@my-deja.com
TyphonBlue <fear...@home.com> wrote:
> Pregnancies are being encouraged, the cult of the all-knowing, loving
and
> saintly MOTHER being trotted out, benefits and breaks being piled
on... why?
>
> Why has it changed so much?
>
> Because the gubmint is seeing a derth of the ever-so-important
angelic WHITE
> baby in the future. Yep, birth rates are dropping amongst whites and
they
> are terrified of being "overrun" by minorities.
That is what the pro-lifers are all about. Whenever I do clinic
security, I get to hear the pro-life cunts yell about "adoption being
an option" to the white patients. The only thing I hear targeted
towards the African-American women is, "Don't murder your bebbee." Of
course there is a huge market for the sale of white newborns under the
guise of "adoption fees" for twitching infertile whitebread couples.
These pure white darlings wouldn't dream of adopting a Black or Latin
baby. And they certainly don't want to adopt the older white troubled
children that are in foster homes much less take in a non-white kid
with problems.
> So whenever you see yet another squicky moment of mombie adoration,
another
> scene of the fleshloaf being held above all, remember that it's being
done
> in responce to a declining population.
Also, the conservatives and corporate America want more births so that
the need for more low-paid workers is filled. Even though people,
especially breeders, bemoan the state of Third World nations with the
booming birth rates, the religious right refuses to allow any type of
birth control or abortion services in those countries because the
church and big business can keep these people under control through
poverty, illiteracy, and intimidation. If the Third Worlders would
stop the massive breeding and be self-sufficient, the Americans would
have no one to exploit for the luxury of cheap discount store clothing
or the coveted Nikes. The OPEC nations are the bane of the US because
they refuse to be intimidated by greedy Americans demanding that they
sell THEIR oil to the US at reduced rates. As a courier, I hope that
oil prices do go down but I understand that the oil is the property of
the OPEC nations and that they can sell THEIR product for whatever they
wish.
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Whytetrash
TyphonBlue <fear...@home.com> wrote:
> Pregnancies are being encouraged, the cult of the all-knowing, loving
and
> saintly MOTHER being trotted out, benefits and breaks being piled
on... why?
>
> Why has it changed so much?
>
> Because the gubmint is seeing a derth of the ever-so-important
angelic WHITE
> baby in the future. Yep, birth rates are dropping amongst whites and
they
> are terrified of being "overrun" by minorities.
I'm all for negative population growth. In fact, I think the majority
of humans could make the world a better place by dropping off the face
of it.
But if the U.S. government were really terrified of being overrun by
nonwhite 'minorities', then it should dramatically curtail its current
policy of allowing 1 million or so nonwhites to immigrate into the U.S.
every year.
>
> So whenever you see yet another squicky moment of mombie adoration,
another
> scene of the fleshloaf being held above all, remember that it's being
done
> in responce to a declining population. I find that thought comforting.
>
> That and visions of a virulent flu epidemic on the scale of 1918, (the
> estimates range from 1/10th to 1/4th of the population extingushed so
today
> that would be 600 mill to 1.5 billion LESS people.) or world war three
> (fought with these irritating teenagers who seem to need something to
do.
> Would being blown to smithereens fit the bill?), or mass suicide...
Makes
> Typhon very, very happy.
>
> Typhon (NEGATIVE population growth NOW)
>
> Who thinks entirely too many humans that don't seem to be benefiting
either
> themselves or anyone else exist. Who also thinks everyone should
start out
> sterile and have to give a very *good* reason why they should have
kids (I'm
> talking a 50 page proposal (points for creativity), plus relevant
education,
> plus genetic tests... etc.). Why should artists have to go through a
series
> of hoops to get money to sponsor activities that will enrich the
world when
> the average breeder only has to spread her legs?
>
>
Noelle
> That is what the pro-lifers are all about. Whenever I do clinic
> security, I get to hear the pro-life cunts yell about "adoption being
> an option" to the white patients. The only thing I hear targeted
> towards the African-American women is, "Don't murder your bebbee." Of
> course there is a huge market for the sale of white newborns under the
> guise of "adoption fees" for twitching infertile whitebread couples.
> These pure white darlings wouldn't dream of adopting a Black or Latin
> baby. And they certainly don't want to adopt the older white troubled
> children that are in foster homes much less take in a non-white kid
> with problems.
If you've done clinic security, you probably have a better handle on the
situation than I do, but this issue has been raised in this NG before, and
my answer has been: Aren't obstacles placed by agencies in the way of white
parents who want to adopt minority babies? I've heard time and again that
white parents are specifically discouraged from doing so, because of fear
that the baby needs to be raised in his or her own culture, something a
white couple would presumably not be able to do satisfactorily. Don't blame
everything on the parents. Sometimes it's the well-meaning agencies or
social workers that keep minority babies from being adopted outside their
ethnic group.
I know that this was the case with my own parents, who lived in a small,
Southern, 99% white town in the late 60s and early 70s (and who still live
there). They said time and again that they didn't care as long as the baby
was a girl (and I'm sure some people would criticize them for that), but
they were not insensitive to the possible outcome of trying to raise a
non-Caucasian baby in a Caucasian town. I had a friend when I was growing
up, a Vietnamese girl who'd been adopted by white parents. She moved away
when I was pretty young, so I really can't say what her situation was like,
but I do know that the agency that handled my parents' adoption of me tried
to find a white baby without being asked. That was in 1971. I don't know
what it's like now.*
I'm not saying that the situation you describe doesn't exist, just that
there might be more than one reason why brown or black babies aren't ending
up with white parents. Have you seen the movie "Losing Isaiah"?
*That was after they had been turned down by agency after agency. Several
times because they did not live in Dallas, and once because they weren't
Baptist. They ended up dealing with Dallas County Child Welfare.
--
Omnia mutantur, nihil interit.
http://www.fastlane.net/~gnoelle
hereti...@my-deja.com
"Noelle" <gno...@fastlane.net> wrote:
snip
> If you've done clinic security, you probably have a better handle on
the
> situation than I do, but this issue has been raised in this NG before,
and
> my answer has been: Aren't obstacles placed by agencies in the way of
white
> parents who want to adopt minority babies?
No. That is a myth. Sort of like the one about Vietnam vets being
spit on--no one can actually find a real case where it happened, but
"everyone knows" it happened.
IMO those who claim they were given a hard time adopting were
rejected for lots of reasons.
Actually, I think we should have the same qualifiers for anyone
who wants to breed, they should have to follow the same standards
adoptive parents have to live up to.
> I've heard time and again
that
> white parents are specifically discouraged from doing so, because of
fear
> that the baby needs to be raised in his or her own culture,
Some feel that way, but I'd like to see some actual peoplr who
have been turned down for that reason, not for being unfit
in other ways. Do you really think the agencies will
deliberately keep any kids out of homes when they are so
short of adoptive parents?
> something
a
> white couple would presumably not be able to do satisfactorily.
No, it's more the white couples want to think that they're
"not wanted" so they don't even try. But they don't want
a kid who won't be a YuppiePuppieBabyGaphole, and face it,
only a cute little Asian girl is considered as marketable
as a white infant. Almost.
> Don't
blame
> everything on the parents.
Wannabes who don't want anything but a healthy white infant
and find all kinds of reasons why they "can't" take in a kid
who needs a home.
> Sometimes it's the well-meaning agencies or
> social workers that keep minority babies from being adopted outside
their
> ethnic group.
YEah, right, and a cousin of a man I used to work with had
a friend whose cousin was spit on in the San Francisco airport
when coming back from "nam.
Oh, yes, and let's not forget about all the bras that feminists
burned (there was no such burning, btw, that's another myth,
you gullible twit. What did happen was some women tossed girdles
and other really awful undergarments in a garbage can while
protesting a beauty contest. The reporter made the whole thing up)
> I know that this was the case with my own parents, who lived in a
small,
> Southern, 99% white town in the late 60s and early 70s (and who still
live
> there). They said time and again that they didn't care as long as the
baby
> was a girl (and I'm sure some people would criticize them for that),
but
> they were not insensitive to the possible outcome of trying to raise a
> non-Caucasian baby in a Caucasian town.
I'm SOOOOOOOO sure. Oh, yeah.
And yes, the fact that they only wanted a GIRL is very significant.
Think about it.
> I had a friend when I was
growing
> up, a Vietnamese girl who'd been adopted by white parents. She moved
away
> when I was pretty young, so I really can't say what her situation was
like,
> but I do know that the agency that handled my parents' adoption of me
tried
> to find a white baby without being asked. That was in 1971. I don't
know
> what it's like now.*
What's different now is that there are no more White Girl Baby Farms,
the old Unwed Mother's Broodfarms. According to Rickie Solinger,
author of -Wake Up,, Little Susie- white women were coerced into
adopting out healthy infants (unhealthy ones would be forced on
the birth mother, even if she had agreed to adoption), even
labeling those who refused as mentally ill, whereas black women
were not in the least encouraged to adopt out, since it was felt
that they were "like that", ie, amoral and not worth bothering with.
LOTS has changed since 1971
Including Roe v Wade.
> I'm not saying that the situation you describe doesn't exist,
But you are SURE all those friends of friends are RIGHT about
all those agencies who prefer to let kids die in institutions
rather than let middle class whites adopt them.
Yeah, right.
Did I ever tell you about this guy I knew, well, when he
came back from Vietnam . . . .
> just
that
> there might be more than one reason why brown or black babies aren't
ending
> up with white parents. Have you seen the movie "Losing Isaiah"?
Have you seen 'Fatal Attraction'? We all know single career gals want
to kill the pets of the married men they rape.
Boy, are you gullible.
nosp...@my-deja.com
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>
> > That is what the pro-lifers are all about. Whenever I do clinic
> > security, I get to hear the pro-life cunts yell about "adoption
being
> > an option" to the white patients. The only thing I hear targeted
> > towards the African-American women is, "Don't murder your bebbee."
Of
> > course there is a huge market for the sale of white newborns under
the
> > guise of "adoption fees" for twitching infertile whitebread couples.
> > These pure white darlings wouldn't dream of adopting a Black or
Latin
> > baby. And they certainly don't want to adopt the older white
troubled
> > children that are in foster homes much less take in a non-white kid
> > with problems.
>
white child but it isn't the fundamentalists who are vying for a child
of color for adoption. The rightwing Christians seek out white babies
to adopt and the pro-lifers are more than happy to accomodate them
since fair-skinned crib lizards are worth alot of money. Most of the
people who want to adopt a Black or Latin child usually do so out of a
desire to honestly help a needy kid. The majority of the twitching
infertile wannabe-breeder sows or religious nuts only want the "pure"
lily-white babies.
nosp...@my-deja.com
> No, it's more the white couples want to think that they're
> "not wanted" so they don't even try. But they don't want
> a kid who won't be a YuppiePuppieBabyGaphole, and face it,
> only a cute little Asian girl is considered as marketable
> as a white infant. Almost.
>
my mind on that one! A former friend, a pro-life Catholic, has a
brother and sister-in-law who have adopted two Chinese-born girls.
These pious pro-lifers would not even think of taking in an American-
born impoverished Black kid. Asians seem to be the next acceptable
alternative to the coveted white fleshloaves since they are considered
the "model" minority. If wannabe-breeders cannot purchase a white
newborn, they can fly to the Orient to buy an Asian substitute.
hereti...@my-deja.com
Uh . ... I kinda hate to bring this up . . ..
but I think it's a lot more sordid than this.
We know that sexual abuse of girls is VERY common.
And Asian girls are thought to be . . . .uh, more submissive
and exotic. So if you've got Short Eyes, you'd want a nice,
submissive, exotic little girl . .. can you say Soon Li Previn . ..
thank heavens for little girls, eh, Woody?
Whereas, adopting a black boy, who will grow up to
have a functioning penis . .. well,
THAT'S DIFFERENT!
Noelle
news:8ro81n$s8s$1...@nnrp1.deja.com...
> you gullible twit. What did happen was some women tossed girdles
Ah. I wondered when I was going to be the lucky recipient of your stellar
namecalling abilities. Oh well. Now I can put a gold star in the blank.
> I'm SOOOOOOOO sure. Oh, yeah.
> And yes, the fact that they only wanted a GIRL is very significant.
> Think about it.
Heretic, I enjoy your posts and respect you as a CF woman, but you know
nothing about my parents or my adoption other than what I've told you, so
I'm going to let this slide. You'll pardon me if I believe that what my
parents tell me about their experiences and motivations has slightly more
credibility with me than what YOU tell me about same.
> But you are SURE all those friends of friends are RIGHT about
> all those agencies who prefer to let kids die in institutions
> rather than let middle class whites adopt them.
Did I say I was sure? Did I claim this as fact? Did I even mention "friends
of friends"? I just offered it up as a consideration.
> Boy, are you gullible.
Boy, are you spiteful. Watch that hair-trigger on your venom-thrower.
nosp...@my-deja.com
>
> Uh . ... I kinda hate to bring this up . . ..
> but I think it's a lot more sordid than this.
> We know that sexual abuse of girls is VERY common.
> And Asian girls are thought to be . . . .uh, more submissive
> and exotic. So if you've got Short Eyes, you'd want a nice,
> submissive, exotic little girl . .. can you say Soon Li Previn . ..
> thank heavens for little girls, eh, Woody?
Good point! I notice that it is mostly Asian girls who are adopted. I
rarely hear anything of Asian boys being brought to the States for
adoption yet the news cameras are always filming the Chinese little
girls faces along with the beaming adopting couples. In a few years, I
wouldn't be surprised to hear of adopted Asian girls coming out of the
closet telling of how their adoptive "fathers" molested them. I bet
ol' Woody was just waiting for Soon Li Previn to "mature" for his sick
pleasure. Yet this fucker wonders why Mia Farrow was so upset when
his "affair" with the adopted DAUGHTER went public!!!!
> Whereas, adopting a black boy, who will grow up to
> have a functioning penis . .. well,
> THAT'S DIFFERENT!
One rabid pro-lifer on the iVillage Abortion Debate Board, a follower
of the Jehovah's Witness cult, pats herself on the back for adopting
Black girls. Interesting that she did not adopt Black boys. Does she
plan on using the girls as slave "mammies" to take care of her home or
any other children she may have? Of course the JW cunt wants abortion
criminalized so that she and others like her can be guaranteed a
constant fresh supply of crib lizards. One of her adopted kids was
harvested from a woman who got pregnant due to being raped. That is
really sick to benefit from a woman who was sexually assaulted.
IleneB
There are rarely, if ever, Chinese boys *available* for adoption,
whereas the cultural denigration of girls coupled with the government
restrictions on breeding have led to millions of abandoned girls.
Ilene B
nosp...@my-deja.com
IleneB <ile...@shore.net> wrote:
>
> There are rarely, if ever, Chinese boys *available* for adoption,
> whereas the cultural denigration of girls coupled with the government
> restrictions on breeding have led to millions of abandoned girls.
>
> Ilene B
>
marriage-age girls for the Asian men since girls were not the desired
sex which led to abandonment.
hereti...@my-deja.com
nosp...@my-deja.com wrote:
snip
> One thing I heard about China is that the there was a shortage of
> marriage-age girls for the Asian men since girls were not the desired
> sex which led to abandonment.
(snicker)
Now, if that's doesn't prove karma exists . . ..
I am all in favor of sex-selection of sproggen.
That way, the next generation of women will be . . ..
wow, can you IMAGINE the PARADISE . . . . all those men,
so little competition . .. .
I can see the articles in future Playboys, about how to
get your girlfriend to commit . . . .
nosp...@my-deja.com
China since there won't be a bevy of breeders lowballing on dowries to
get the coveted husband for their daughters.
IleneB
Apparently not. They become a more valuable commodity, but still not
people. Women are being kidnapped and forced to China from other nice
places, like Malaysia.
I don't think dowries are much involved in China- certainly not the
way they are in India.
ilene B
Kent
: Good point! I notice that it is mostly Asian girls who are adopted. I
: rarely hear anything of Asian boys being brought to the States for
: adoption yet the news cameras are always filming the Chinese little
: girls faces along with the beaming adopting couples. In a few years, I
: wouldn't be surprised to hear of adopted Asian girls coming out of the
Actually, the reason for this is the premium, even more in Asian cultures
than here, put on the Mighty Golden SON...so it's the unwanted daughters
that are being put up for adoption, not the boys.
Kent
William Malverson
> > parents who want to adopt minority babies?
>
> No. That is a myth. Sort of like the one about Vietnam vets being
> spit on--no one can actually find a real case where it happened, but
> "everyone knows" it happened.
>
The National Association of Black Social Workers disagrees with you.
http://www.rtc.pdx.edu/fp/spring96/transrac.htm
"The case against transracial adoption"
Will
Keine Kinder
nosp...@my-deja.com wrote:
> The demand for Asian infants was going to be my next topic. You read
> my mind on that one! A former friend, a pro-life Catholic, has a
> brother and sister-in-law who have adopted two Chinese-born girls.
> These pious pro-lifers would not even think of taking in an American-
> born impoverished Black kid. Asians seem to be the next acceptable
> alternative to the coveted white fleshloaves since they are considered
> the "model" minority. If wannabe-breeders cannot purchase a white
> newborn, they can fly to the Orient to buy an Asian substitute.
Ah, nosprogs, do NOT get me started on this. I'm biracial. I made damn
sure I got snipped. I'd love for some pro-lifer to pull the "well, you
can adopt it out" mess on me should I ever need an abortion. Yeah,
lady, I'll reconsider if you would like to adopt my quadroon nappy-
haired baby. No? Didn't think so.
Some of these people ought to put their money where their mouthes are.
-Shauntee
Gutterboy
>Asians seem to be the next acceptable
>alternative to the coveted white fleshloaves since they are considered
>the "model" minority. If wannabe-breeders cannot purchase a white
>newborn, they can fly to the Orient to buy an Asian substitute.
And -- as Mia Farrow has so amply demonstrated -- one hour later, you're ready
for another one.
Gutterboy
-----------------
"Mass media should not be blamed for the failure of busy, selfish parents to
provide high culture and intellectual stimulation at home." -- Camille Paglia
Gutterboy
>Ah, nosprogs, do NOT get me started on this. I'm biracial. I made damn
>sure I got snipped. I'd love for some pro-lifer to pull the "well, you
>can adopt it out" mess on me should I ever need an abortion. Yeah,
>lady, I'll reconsider if you would like to adopt my quadroon nappy-
>haired baby. No? Didn't think so.
You could always try a casting director. I hear that quadroon nappy-haired
babies are quite in demand for pudding commercials.
Keine Kinder
gutte...@aol.commeilfaut (Gutterboy) wrote:
>
> You could always try a casting director. I hear that quadroon nappy-
haired
> babies are quite in demand for pudding commercials.
>
> Gutterboy
*sprays monitor with water* *ROFLMAO*
Ah....I *NEEDED* a good laugh after the day I've had. Perhaps Bill
Cosby would be the casting director.
Or maybe I'll marinate for 12 hours and bake at 350 degrees. :)
Talk about uses for a sprog...
Jim
>In article <ORLD5.1341$G5.2...@read1.centurytel.net>,
> "Noelle" <gno...@fastlane.net> wrote:
>snip
>> If you've done clinic security, you probably have a better handle on
>the
>> situation than I do, but this issue has been raised in this NG before,
>and
>> my answer has been: Aren't obstacles placed by agencies in the way of
>white
>> parents who want to adopt minority babies?
>
>No. That is a myth. Sort of like the one about Vietnam vets being
>spit on--no one can actually find a real case where it happened, but
>"everyone knows" it happened.
>
Actually, it has. From yesterday's Asbury Park Press:
http://www.app.com/news/backstories.pl?id=309502&paper=0
DYFS denies it, but they are not to be trusted.
Jim
hereti...@my-deja.com
because of one issue: race.
From the article:
The caseworker "stood in my living room and said, 'If I had
an African-American home (available)
today, I would take him from you,' " recalled Means, 60, a
retired psychology professor who lives in
Princeton. "I thought about leaving the country (with Rocky).
. . . It was hard to sleep, hard to think
clearly."
{the operational word here is IF. Fact is, there aren't enough
black homes for the children who need them, which is why plenty
of white parents DO foster and adopt black children. But keep reading:}
DYFS says it does not use race as a factor in adoptions. But
race matters in the state child-protection
system, according to an Asbury Park Press review of
child-welfare data and interviews with caregivers
and caseworkers.
Twice as many black children than white children are in
foster care. Black children remain in foster care a third longer, on
average, than
white children, and black children wait longer for adoptive
parents. It is harder to find foster homes for black children,
caseworkers and
foster parents say.
Experts, DYFS officials, foster parents and caseworkers cite
various reasons for such disparities, including poverty, racism and a
tendency
for caseworkers and foster and adoptive parents to make
decisions based on race.
{note the LAST LINE there. Foster and adoptive parents PREFER
white kids.}
bry...@my-deja.com
TyphonBlue <fear...@home.com> wrote:
> Pregnancies are being encouraged, the cult of the all-knowing, loving
and
> saintly MOTHER being trotted out, benefits and breaks being piled
on... why?
[reasonectomy]
> Who thinks entirely too many humans that don't seem to be benefiting
either
> themselves or anyone else exist. Who also thinks everyone should
start out
> sterile and have to give a very *good* reason why they should have
kids (I'm
> talking a 50 page proposal (points for creativity), plus relevant
education,
> plus genetic tests... etc.). Why should artists have to go through a
series
> of hoops to get money to sponsor activities that will enrich the
world when
> the average breeder only has to spread her legs?
you've been reading Sheri Tepper, haven't you?
bry...@my-deja.com
> > "not wanted" so they don't even try. But they don't want
> > a kid who won't be a YuppiePuppieBabyGaphole, and face it,
> > only a cute little Asian girl is considered as marketable
> > as a white infant. Almost.
i will say at this point that i do know a lovely couple who had a sprog
of their own and didn't want any more, but did want to help out some
child in need. so they adopted a little korean boy who had more
medical problems than even god could've dreamed up. i also know a
lesbian couple who have adopted two lovely girls from romania, where
they were truly suffering through hell, instead of trying to breed
their own.
however, you're right. most sproggenpopperen do not want black kids,
disabled kids, anything but the perfect little sprog, preferably white
and blond.
> The demand for Asian infants was going to be my next topic. You read
> my mind on that one! A former friend, a pro-life Catholic, has a
> brother and sister-in-law who have adopted two Chinese-born girls.
> These pious pro-lifers would not even think of taking in an American-
> born impoverished Black kid. Asians seem to be the next acceptable
> alternative to the coveted white fleshloaves since they are
considered
> the "model" minority. If wannabe-breeders cannot purchase a white
> newborn, they can fly to the Orient to buy an Asian substitute.
or Central or South America where they can pay for some sproggenpopper
to pop Dear Dickhead's spermworms.
the irony of human flesh for sale seems to completely escape these
maroons.
bry...@my-deja.com
hereti...@my-deja.com wrote:
> In article <8rqfou$ddo$1...@nnrp1.deja.com>,
> nosp...@my-deja.com wrote:
> > One thing I heard about China is that the there was a shortage of
> > marriage-age girls for the Asian men since girls were not the
desired
> > sex which led to abandonment.
> (snicker)
> Now, if that's doesn't prove karma exists . . ..
> I am all in favor of sex-selection of sproggen.
> That way, the next generation of women will be . . ..
> wow, can you IMAGINE the PARADISE . . . . all those men,
> so little competition . .. .
unfortunately, the reality is that raiders now descend on villages,
murder all the adults and the male children, and steal all the young
women of childbearing age and under. many of them are raped and
tortured. those who die from ill treatment, or who are not considered
attractive enough to fetch a good price are abandoned, left to die.
the others are sold into what amounts to slavery. because women are
denigrated, they have no status from which to negotiate. it is only
now that the government is starting to exact harsh penalties for the
trade in female flesh.
bry...@my-deja.com
IleneB <ile...@shore.net> wrote:
>
> Apparently not. They become a more valuable commodity, but still not
> people. Women are being kidnapped and forced to China from other nice
> places, like Malaysia.
and korea, and taiwan, and hongkong.
> I don't think dowries are much involved in China- certainly not the
> way they are in India.
no, it was customary in China (pre-1949) for the groom's family to pay
the bride-price. whereas the dowry in india began as a form of
inheritable property for WOMEN. originally, even the king could not
touch a penny of a woman's dowry. That money was hers and hers alone.
hereti...@my-deja.com
bry...@my-deja.com wrote:
> In article <8rqgt0$e94$1...@nnrp1.deja.com>,
> hereti...@my-deja.com wrote:
> > In article <8rqfou$ddo$1...@nnrp1.deja.com>,
> > nosp...@my-deja.com wrote:
>
> > > One thing I heard about China is that the there was a shortage of
> > > marriage-age girls for the Asian men since girls were not the
> desired
> > > sex which led to abandonment.
>
> > (snicker)
> > Now, if that's doesn't prove karma exists . . ..
>
> > I am all in favor of sex-selection of sproggen.
>
> > That way, the next generation of women will be . . ..
> > wow, can you IMAGINE the PARADISE . . . . all those men,
> > so little competition . .. .
>
> unfortunately, the reality is that raiders now descend on villages,
> murder all the adults and the male children, and steal all the young
> women of childbearing age and under.
HEY, that's exactly what Moses did to the Midianites . ..
but I don't think that is very common. There are police in
all those places, you know, and the Chinese penal system is
quite . . ..severe.
I'm beginning to think this is kinda like the Chinese Fetus Soup story.
> many of them are raped and
> tortured.
Ya know what? Women are raped and tortured everywhere.
Because there are more women than is needed. Look what is
happening to the women in the former Soviet Union.
It's all about overpopulation and not enough resources to
go around, plus the meme that infected our species
a few thousand years ago that made many of our species
believe that those with a penis are superior to those
with a vagina. As long as half the population has
no option but to crank out crotchdroppings, the oversupply
of humans will continue. This means even more oppression
of women. Because the menfolks will try to make sure that
they won't have to compete against half the population.
This is why the current Family Uber Alles propaganda is
hitting us; what better way to make sure women can't
compete on a level playing field than to entrap them
by sprogging? And what better way to trap men into
corporate indentured servitude by saddling them with
dependents? Capitalism is a Ponzi scheme, and it needs
an oversupply of workers to keep wages down.
Keep in mind that it was the Black Death that made serfs
too expensive.
So perhaps the only way to kill off the meme is to let
it run its course. Now that sex selection is getting
easier to do, eventually all those countries will be
short of breeding females. I am all in favor of it.
But I am afraid it's too late to reverse the damage done
to the ecosystem, so in a generation, it will be a moot point.
Oh well. I had a really good life, and a wonderful childhood,
and I feel sorry for the sprogs of today.
Just don't blame me! I didn't breed.
That is why when women are abused, it's "cultural" but
when men are, it's "political" and must be stopped!
> those who die from ill treatment, or who are not considered
> attractive enough to fetch a good price are abandoned, left to die.
Yes, even fewer breeding sows.
> the others are sold into what amounts to slavery. because women are
> denigrated, they have no status from which to negotiate. it is only
> now that the government is starting to exact harsh penalties for the
> trade in female flesh.
Oh, with overpopulation making even men redundant and unneeded,
I'd say that sexual slavery will become the norm. They will
want to eliminate more women from the labor market, just like
after WWII.
I don't have much hope for the future.
But so what, if The(ir) children are our future, THEY get to
deal with all the shit.
Noelle
> i will say at this point that i do know a lovely couple who had a sprog
> of their own and didn't want any more, but did want to help out some
> child in need. so they adopted a little korean boy who had more
> medical problems than even god could've dreamed up. i also know a
> lesbian couple who have adopted two lovely girls from romania, where
> they were truly suffering through hell, instead of trying to breed
> their own.
I know a little bit about the Romanian orphanage situation (directly
traceable to Ceausescu's "birth squads" and dictates that all women must
bear 5 children). Malnutrition, disease, and over half of Europe's cases of
pediatric AIDS. "Hell" is right, but people will still be criticized,
because, after all, Romanians are white. Likewise with Russian children, and
it seems the Russians have been suffering as long as anyone can remember.
> however, you're right. most sproggenpopperen do not want black kids,
> disabled kids, anything but the perfect little sprog, preferably white
> and blond.
I just have to say that I love the word "sproggenpopperen." It just rolls
off the tongue. :)
> or Central or South America where they can pay for some sproggenpopper
> to pop Dear Dickhead's spermworms.
>
> the irony of human flesh for sale seems to completely escape these
> maroons.
As an adoptee, I think that the various flaming hoops such as in-vitro, AI,
surrogate mothering, and other infertility treatments that baby-crazed
couples jump through are worse than wrong, they are obscene. I'm remembering
something from the back of my brain that was brought up on here once: a
group of infertile couples being asked whether they would rather be parents,
or pregnant. Those who said they just wanted to be parents were willing to
adopt. Those who just wanted to be pregnant were the hoop-jumpers (Source,
anyone?).
Having one's own biological children seems to be far, far too easy for most
people, and the adoption process seems unnecessarily strenuous. Where's the
middle ground? I wish there were some way to make it harder for people to
have their own (licensing? training? screening? the libertarian in me rebels
at the thought of more government regulation), while at the same time
opening up the avenues for people who wished to adopt (and could prove
financial and emotional stability).
I remember seeing something a few months ago on some show or another,
perhaps it was Montel Williams, where a retired couple adopted an entire
family of kids, something like 11 kids IIRC, stair-stepped from 6 or so to
17 or 18 years in age. The couple was white. The kids were Hispanic. I
thought taking on so many kids at once was crazy but admirable, especially
at the adoptive parents' age, and I definitely admired them for not breaking
up the siblings. These kids had been through horrors with their biological
family.
bry...@my-deja.com
"Noelle" <gno...@fastlane.net> wrote:
> <bry...@my-deja.com> wrote in message
news:8s073j$vcu$1...@nnrp1.deja.com...
[adoptectomy]
> I know a little bit about the Romanian orphanage situation (directly
> traceable to Ceausescu's "birth squads" and dictates that all women
> must bear 5 children). Malnutrition, disease, and over half of
> Europe's cases of pediatric AIDS. "Hell" is right, but people will
> still be criticized, because, after all, Romanians are white.
true. and the adopters were a white lesbian couple. they considered
adopting nonwhite children, but were not accepted (this was about 5
years ago) because the DSS did not, at that time, permit "homos" to
adopt, regardless of the stability of their relationship, the financial
circumstances, etc. their little girl, when they got her, had bedsores
from being tied to her bed for days on end because there was
insufficient labor to ensure she was turned over regularly. the skin
crawls.
[russianectomy]
> I just have to say that I love the word "sproggenpopperen." It just
> rolls off the tongue. :)
%^) yer welcome to share it.
[selfectomy]
Sheri S. Tepper proposes (in several of her excellent novels) that
before a child can be conceived, between two and five solvent adults
sign documentation certifying that they will be liable for all the
child's needs and for the consequences of its behaviour. That's
"taking a village" to a logical conclusion, instead of just breeding
for the sake of owning a fucktrophy and future asswipe.
> I remember seeing something a few months ago on some show or another,
> perhaps it was Montel Williams, where a retired couple adopted an
entire
> family of kids, something like 11 kids IIRC, stair-stepped from 6 or
so to
> 17 or 18 years in age. The couple was white. The kids were Hispanic.
I
> thought taking on so many kids at once was crazy but admirable,
especially
> at the adoptive parents' age, and I definitely admired them for not
breaking
> up the siblings. These kids had been through horrors with their
biological
> family.
i hope they never had cause to regret what they did. abused children,
just like abused animals, require a lot of work to rehabilitate. but
kudos to these people for seeing the importance of this issue, instead
of attempting to overpopulate the world with clones of their own.