Re: Hyperactivity Drugs Found Wanting
Probert@lumbercartel.com Mark Probert
"Jan" <jdrew...@aol.com> wrote in message
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> http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/health/3974399.stm
Thank you Jan for posting an article supporting the use of pharmacotherapy
and pointing out where improvement is stil needed.
Hopefully, research will lead to longer acting medications and allow kids to
have a full day of positive experiences.
However, you should take note that there are dcotrs who are now suggesting
medication in the late afternoon for the reasons that this study
describes.Many believe that methylpheniate taken three times a day should be
the norm.
> > Hyperactivity drugs found wanting
>
>
> Children with ADHD find it hard to concentrate
> Parents of hyperactive children say drugs often fail to damp down symptoms
at
> crucial times of day.
> Research suggests children with Attention Deficit Hyperactivity Disorder
> disrupt family life most in the mornings and early evenings.
This has been well known in the AD/HD community for years.
> Doctors believe current treatments should be effective at these times -
but a
> study found this often does not tally with parents' experiences.
Quite true.
> An ADHD 24/7 campaign has been launched to provide practical help.
Damn good idea.
> ADHD affects an estimated 3-7% of school-aged children - roughly two
children
> in every classroom.
And this is from England, where they have been in denial for years.
> Symptoms include inattention, hyperactivity and impulsiveness.
>
> Survey findings
> Almost half of parents agree that ADHD has had a severe impact on family
life
> as a whole, limiting family activities and outings
Agreed. Barkely has pointed out that parents undergo an incredible amount of
stress.
> 53% of families avoid going out to public places and 23% avoid eating out
Interesting. Perhaps this is not so in the US, since we do a lot more fast
food.
> 39% of parents experience difficulty getting their child with ADHD dressed
and
> ready for school
Old news in asad.
> 59% say their child finds it difficult to sit through breakfast
Same.
> 68% experience difficulties getting equipment ready for school
Yessir. That is why the night before was invented.
> 53% of families avoid going out to public places and 23% avoid eating out
Repeated.
> A study conducted to tie in with the new campaign found that 85% of
doctors
> believe that current ADHD treatments should control symptoms from 8am to
9am,
> whereas just 62% of parents agree that this is the case in reality.
Interesting. Doctors should listen to their patients more. An all day
treatment should be developed.
> Similarly, 60% of doctors expect treatments to still be effective from 5pm
to
> 7pm - but just 45% of parents feel that symptoms are under control at this
> time.
An all day treatment should be developed, or a third dose of medication
administered when Johnny comes home from school.
> Although most parents and doctors agree that ADHD medication completely
wears
> off between 7pm and 9pm, for a significant minority of parents (17%),
symptom
> relief has already ended by 5pm.
Old news.
> The research also found that over 90% of parents believe their child's
ADHD has
> a moderate or severe impact on family life
Agrees with my experience.
> Big impact
>
> Dr David Coghill, senior lecturer in child and adolescent psychiatry at
the
> University of Dundee, said: "ADHD is a 24-hour condition and the busiest
times
> of the day for the family - mornings and evenings - can be the most
stressful
> for parents and children alike.
>
> "As a result, we know that affected children can miss out on friendships,
> after-school activities and hobbies whilst family time is constantly
disrupted.
>
> "The daily and constant chaos that ADHD can cause impacts not only on the
> development of the child with the disorder, but also affects his or her
> siblings, the wider family, school and community."
This is coming from what is commonly referred to as a very smart doctor.
> Dr Morris Zwi, a consultant child and adolescent psychiatrist at the
Richmond
> Royal Hospital, London, told the BBC News website that commonly prescribed
ADHD
> medications - such as methylphenidate and dextro-amphetamine - were short
> lasting.
Quite true, and this is why they are not addictive.
> He said medication could not be taken later on in the day because it often
> affected sleep.
Some people claim it helps their minds settle down and they sleep better.
> "I always tell parents that medication will help their child at school
> predominantly and that they will not see much of the benefits, except at
> weekends."
>
> Andrea Bilbow, chief executive of ADDISS added: "ADHD affects everybody in
the
> family, not just the diagnosed child and this is especially true at the
most
> stressful times of the day before medication takes effect and after it has
worn
> off.
>
> "This campaign will hopefully raise awareness of the family impact of ADHD
and
> by giving practical advice and support, will help to take the pressure off
some
> of the day's stress points."
>
> It will offer practical hints and tips and contact details for
organisations
> that can help.
>
> An information leaflet is available by telephoning 01256 315999 or
emailing
> AD...@familystresspoints.co.uk
>
> The survey involved 70 paediatricians, 55 child and adolescent
psychiatrists,
> 101 parents of children with ADHD who were receiving treatment for the
> condition and 147 parents who know a child with ADHD.
Thank you, Jan, for posting an article which is supportive of using
medication to help children.
Please repost?
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Opera Maestro
<< > Doctors believe current treatments should be effective at these times -
but a
> study found this often does not tally with parents' experiences.
Quite true.
> An ADHD 24/7 campaign has been launched to provide practical help.
Damn good idea. >>
I do not second that thought.
<< roughly two
children
> in every classroom.
<And this is from England, where they have been in denial for years.>
> Symptoms include inattention, hyperactivity and impulsiveness. >>
Denial, we have discussed enough!
<< Agreed. Barkely has pointed out that parents undergo an incredible amount of
stress. >>
Stressed?
I am,
Hell Yes!
[no not a parent]
Thank you for asking.
In any case,
As for sites,
Are you referring to the following
Sources?
"Barkley's Famous Dog Quotations,"
16th ed., Pitter Pat Press,
New Ork City.
I own my own collector's edition ~
Bequeathed to me my late,
Great Uncle Felix
Patrick Rouggly Keaney ~
The esteemed San Francisico physician,
His wife, her name,
Blakley Cuyler Logan.
Probert@lumbercartel.com Mark Probert
"Opera Maestro " <virg...@aol.commentary> wrote in message
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> [MarkProbert]
> << > Doctors believe current treatments should be effective at these
times -
> but a
> > study found this often does not tally with parents' experiences.
>
> Quite true.
>
> > An ADHD 24/7 campaign has been launched to provide practical help.
>
> Damn good idea. >>
>
> I do not second that thought.
I favor the idea simply because those times when there is no control, the
person/kid can be scarred. I feel that the repetitive cycling between levels
of control is, in the long run, damaging to the person. It should most
definitely be an option for those who feel they need it.
> << roughly two
> children
> > in every classroom.
>
> <And this is from England, where they have been in denial for years.>
>
> > Symptoms include inattention, hyperactivity and impulsiveness. >>
>
> Denial, we have discussed enough!
Sorry, but 'news' is news.
> << Agreed. Barkely has pointed out that parents undergo an incredible
amount of
> stress. >>
>
> Stressed?
> I am,
> Hell Yes!
> [no not a parent]
> Thank you for asking.
I understand your point and do not wihs to diminish the stress that a person
with AD/HD undergoes. However, the simple fact is that parents of AD/HD kids
need far more support than what is available now. Our kids take up much more
time than the NT's, and, there is damn little time left for the parent.
With OS now 21 and doing well, we finally found a respite program where my
younger son can attend. His first weekend away wil be Thanksgiving. This is
our fist time 'off' since 6/4/88 (that is not a typo), as our family has
steadfastly found one excuse after another to avoid giving us a weekend
break. He wil lbe away at a camp and with g/f #1 and g/f #2, while the three
sets of parents just have a normal, average, weekend. We are going to see a
Broadway show.
Yes, stress of caregivers is a major concern.
> In any case,
> As for sites,
> Are you referring to the following
> Sources?
Russell Barkley, Ph. D.
Opera Maestro
<< > In any case,
> As for sites,
> Are you referring to the following
> Sources?
Russell Barkley, Ph. D. >>
O I know that barking
Jack Russell!
....A far cry from Normal.
It was the white Jack Russell, Fobbie*~
Cleverly en Masque Noir ~
Strolling slowly behind, rolling her Enfant Stroller
— perfectly still,
And impatiently looking after her stroller of puppies ~
Fobbie, yes, was approximating, checking her pocket watch,
As if she had lost something...
[*AKA Wobbit; yes, she's registered,
Has papers, too.]
For those NOT
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Good blood lines...
Got papers, too.
Great jeans.
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>
> "Opera Maestro " <virg...@aol.commentary> wrote in message
> news:20041104020603...@mb-m01.aol.com...
>> [MarkProbert]
>> << > Doctors believe current treatments should be effective at these
> times -
>> but a
>> > study found this often does not tally with parents' experiences.
>>
>> Quite true.
>>
>> > An ADHD 24/7 campaign has been launched to provide practical help.
>>
>> Damn good idea. >>
>>
>> I do not second that thought.
>
> I favor the idea simply because those times when there is no control, the
> person/kid can be scarred. I feel that the repetitive cycling between
> levels of control is, in the long run, damaging to the person. It should
> most definitely be an option for those who feel they need it.
I'd intuited this, but never put it into words. I definitely agree.
--
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Appeal to sympathy for its decay.
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P W
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Probert@lumbercartel.com Mark Probert
"P W" <nicN...@webtv.net> wrote in message news:1862-418...@storefull-3174.bay.webtv.net...I have 3 sons ages 14, 11 and 9 whom all have been diagnosed with adah,
and given adderall for this. I've been told that since they have been
diagnosed by a dr, that they are eligible for SSI? anyone know anything
about this?
They were just given the addrall today so i havnt had the chance to see
how its going to affect them, i sure do hope it helps them..
thanks..
patti
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