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MKSheppard

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Mar 3, 2001, 10:43:40 AM3/3/01
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About Cold War showdowns:
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A special unit arrived in Baumholder near the French border in fall 1953.
It added six 280mm guns to the dozen or so already there. (The original
"Atomic Annie" was assigned to the 265th FA Bn., which arrived in November.)

This atomic cannon -- known as "Eisenhower's Folly" -- was capable of firing
a round 30 miles with pinpoint accuracy. Each unit had a secret alert area
where it was set up to fire.

For political reasons, the 280mm cannon was later replaced by vastly inferior
Honest John rockets.

All four "atomic" FA battalions (867th, 868th, 264th and 265th) were inactivated
in Germany in June 1958.

Rolland L. Marshall, 1953-54
868th Field Artillery Battalion

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Being on the Czech-East German border with a unit that was "nuclear-capable"
(two 280mm cannons), Soviet "liaison teams" were always trying get information
about our outfit. Tensions were especially high after Khrushchev closed the Autobahn
to Berlin on May 16, 1959. My battery was moved to Vilseck as part of a 4th Armored
Division task force.

At the time of the closing, U.S. and Soviet tanks faced off against each other at close
range. Our battery received a fire mission with the command, "Do Not Load." But my
gun was laid on target. That was the scariest moment of my life. I did not want to be the
lieutenant who fired the first round of a nuclear war.

S. Vaughn Binzer, May 1959
1st Gun Plt., C Btry., 3rd Gun Bn.,
39th Artillery, 7th Army

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I served eight border tours comprising 103 missions as a ground
surveillance radar crewman. During one mission supporting the
2nd ACR in July 1978, I heard a burst of gunfire that from all signs
obviously killed someone attempting to flee from Czechoslovakia.
But the rules of engagement prevented U.S. soldiers from helping.
They were summed up by the acronym SHOP (Self-Defense-Hostile
Act-On Orders-Prevent Illegal Capture). We could only fire in a defector's
defense.

Almost two years later on my last mission near the same spot, I watched
through a pair of night vision goggles as a defector set off a trip flare and
then fell to his knees. Then five Czech border guards beat him to death
with their flashlights, finally throwing his limp form into the back of a truck.

Thomas A. Bisping, 1978-79
Trp. C, 1st Sqdn., 1st Cav


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The Cycle of Warfare:
If the INFANTRY fails, send in some ARMOR, if the
ARMOR Fails Call in ARTY, if ARTY Fails, Call in
TACAIR, if TACAIR fails, Try DIPLOMACY. If Diplomacy
Fails, Send in the INFANTRY

LT.Hit-Man

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Mar 3, 2001, 1:37:01 PM3/3/01
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Man that is some nasty ass shit.
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" When it comes to a fan fic review
everyone get's to play."
- LT.Hit-Man

Stuart Mackey

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Mar 3, 2001, 8:29:17 PM3/3/01
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MKSheppard <ryan...@erols.com> wrote in message
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> http://www.vfw.org/magazine/mar99/32.shtml
>
> About Cold War showdowns:

Another thing is that the Soviets used the old nazi era concentration camps
in east Germany into the 50's and used forced east German labour to work to
death in uranium mines.
Such nice guys huh?


Deimos Anomaly

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Mar 4, 2001, 10:14:54 AM3/4/01
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> Almost two years later on my last mission near the same spot, I watched
> through a pair of night vision goggles as a defector set off a trip flare and
> then fell to his knees. Then five Czech border guards beat him to death
> with their flashlights, finally throwing his limp form into the back of a truck.


Damn it man this guy had no guts at all. If it was me, fuck, let the
regulations be damned: I'd have got out a sniper rifle and at least
"kneecapped" those murderous commie bastards, to let that guy escape to
safety.

Kyle

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Mar 4, 2001, 4:55:53 PM3/4/01
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Deimos Anomaly wrote:

> Damn it man this guy had no guts at all. If it was me, fuck, let the
> regulations be damned: I'd have got out a sniper rifle and at least
> "kneecapped" those murderous commie bastards, to let that guy escape to
> safety.

Once again Deimos sounds like a thirteen year old trying to sound tough.

--
Kyle
"My computer is a rebel acting all fine, and just like that paying me
no mind, what's up is it's program overcome by a glitch, is it becoming
conscious and if so ain't that a bitch." 311 Evolution

Deimos Anomaly

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Mar 5, 2001, 1:45:44 PM3/5/01
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Kyle wrote:
>
> Deimos Anomaly wrote:
>
> > Damn it man this guy had no guts at all. If it was me, fuck, let the
> > regulations be damned: I'd have got out a sniper rifle and at least
> > "kneecapped" those murderous commie bastards, to let that guy escape to
> > safety.
>
> Once again Deimos sounds like a thirteen year old trying to sound tough.

Kyle, why the fuck must you try to demean me with every post, accusing
me of being immature. You need to go shove your crazy personal vendetta
up your ass. If, oh, CHUCK had posted that reply, would you have said he
sounded like "a thirteen year old?".

I thought not.

Dalton

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Mar 5, 2001, 2:01:23 PM3/5/01
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Deimos Anomaly wrote:
>
> Kyle wrote:
> >
> > Deimos Anomaly wrote:
> >
> > > Damn it man this guy had no guts at all. If it was me, fuck, let the
> > > regulations be damned: I'd have got out a sniper rifle and at least
> > > "kneecapped" those murderous commie bastards, to let that guy escape to
> > > safety.
> >
> > Once again Deimos sounds like a thirteen year old trying to sound tough.
>
> Kyle, why the fuck must you try to demean me with every post, accusing
> me of being immature.

Because you are?

> You need to go shove your crazy personal vendetta
> up your ass.

And you need to grow up a bit and stop trying to ignite flamewars.

> If, oh, CHUCK had posted that reply, would you have said he
> sounded like "a thirteen year old?".
>
> I thought not.

Except that Chuck wouldn't post that, at least not in that fashion, so
what you just said is a complete red herring.

--
Rob Dalton
http://daltonator.net

"Remember, you can't polish a turd." ---Wayne Poe

rob.wn5

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Mar 5, 2001, 2:08:51 PM3/5/01
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"Deimos Anomaly" <samuelj...@aol.com> wrote in message
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If Chuck had posted that as a reply, I for one would have been very
surprised. You will note however that Chuck did not post that, You did, and
he is extremely unlikely to ever post something as juvenile or stupid in
the future.

>
> I thought not.

Because Chuck didn't and wouldn't, stop putting up Red Herrings.

Rob Wilson

Deimos Anomaly

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Mar 5, 2001, 2:53:03 PM3/5/01
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Dalton wrote:
>
> Deimos Anomaly wrote:
> >
> > Kyle wrote:
> > >
> > > Deimos Anomaly wrote:
> > >
> > > > Damn it man this guy had no guts at all. If it was me, fuck, let the
> > > > regulations be damned: I'd have got out a sniper rifle and at least
> > > > "kneecapped" those murderous commie bastards, to let that guy escape to
> > > > safety.
> > >
> > > Once again Deimos sounds like a thirteen year old trying to sound tough.
> >
> > Kyle, why the fuck must you try to demean me with every post, accusing
> > me of being immature.
>
> Because you are?
>
> > You need to go shove your crazy personal vendetta
> > up your ass.
>
> And you need to grow up a bit and stop trying to ignite flamewars.

Oh, this is great. Kyle can insult me by comparing me to a 13-year-old,
and that's just fine. But when I reply in kind, suddenly I'm trying to
ignite a flamewar! Great logic there.

I don't want to be libelous, but it seems to me that your estimation of
wether a person is trying to start a flamewar or not runs ENTIRELY along
party lines.

Dalton

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Mar 5, 2001, 3:01:25 PM3/5/01
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Deimos Anomaly wrote:
>
> Dalton wrote:
> >
> > Deimos Anomaly wrote:
> > >
> > > Kyle wrote:
> > > >
> > > > Deimos Anomaly wrote:
> > > >
> > > > > Damn it man this guy had no guts at all. If it was me, fuck, let the
> > > > > regulations be damned: I'd have got out a sniper rifle and at least
> > > > > "kneecapped" those murderous commie bastards, to let that guy escape to
> > > > > safety.
> > > >
> > > > Once again Deimos sounds like a thirteen year old trying to sound tough.
> > >
> > > Kyle, why the fuck must you try to demean me with every post, accusing
> > > me of being immature.
> >
> > Because you are?
> >
> > > You need to go shove your crazy personal vendetta
> > > up your ass.
> >
> > And you need to grow up a bit and stop trying to ignite flamewars.
>
> Oh, this is great. Kyle can insult me by comparing me to a 13-year-old,
> and that's just fine. But when I reply in kind, suddenly I'm trying to
> ignite a flamewar! Great logic there.

How about the Spacebattles FAQ? The Kynes FAQ? Your little destructive
forays into Spacebattles? Attempts to incite invasions?

> I don't want to be libelous, but it seems to me that your estimation of
> wether a person is trying to start a flamewar or not runs ENTIRELY along
> party lines.

And it seems to me that you're hooked on this whole "evil warsie
conspiracy" disease that's rampant among you and your trektard friends.
I don't give a shit who you are: if you're trying to start a flamewar, I
will call you out. Just like I did with Ryan Spickard. Remember the
schism I had with Kynes a while back, chico??? I guess that means you're
wrong yet again.

--
Rob Dalton
http://daltonator.net

"Even the smallest person can change the course of the future."

Graeme Dice

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Mar 6, 2001, 7:47:44 PM3/6/01
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And start a nuclear war while you're at it.

Real smart there.

Graeme Dice
--
The bear and Carl lived together in the cave for several
years until, one day, the true savagery of Nature being
unleashed, Carl killed and ate him.
-- The Prehistory of The Far Side / Gary Larson

Matthew Hyde

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Mar 13, 2001, 8:39:05 AM3/13/01
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Yah I wish you could too

--
Matt Hyde
906-487-3406
mdo...@mtu.edu

Matthew Hyde

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Mar 13, 2001, 8:40:55 AM3/13/01
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If he did, though, it would have a whole script and one liners and
dancing bears and a Portuguese sex midget, stuff like that

rob.wn5

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Mar 13, 2001, 8:02:24 PM3/13/01
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"Matthew Hyde" <mdo...@mtu.edu> wrote in message
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LOL
Yeah, you have to love Chucks ability to write Portuguese Sex Midgets as
sympathetic characters. :-)

Rob Wilson

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