Worst part about SuperBowl XL...
The REAL PA Coug Fan
guys wearing camouflage pants, L.A. Gear sneakers and Stealers' jackets that
reek of nicotine and B.O. Trust me: It'll be 90 degrees in August and all
you see on the horizon are mullets, whispy mustaches and Stealers' puffy
jackets. You can't make this shit up, it's really like that all over the
freakin' place. It's sort of like when you watch those informercials for
poor people in 3rd world countries...it's sad, very sad. I'm quite sure
that in many a Pennsylslovakian household this year, a child will go
unvaccinated so dad can buy a Stealers' jersey and stickers for his
Trans-Am.
Oh Appalachia, so proud in spite of your poverty and filth.
BTW: On Seattle's plus side, they're still poor white trash and we're the
Kings of Cool and Style, so we got that going for us. Well, plus education,
well-paying jobs, teeth, and no cholera.
Mister Hand
> ...is that Central Pennsylslovakia is now populated by millions of white
Bad troll. Bad! No biscuit!
Scotty
"The REAL PA Coug Fan"
message news:yMCdnSb3rKD...@suscom.com...
Kurt Cocaine, er Cobain.
Nuff said?
The REAL PA Coug Fan
like a plate of week-old Maryland crabcakes.
Now if you want to give me something, crawl up on that bridge and start
strummin' that banjo, 'kay? If you're good, I'll even give your Ronny Cox's
autograph.
SteelerFan_From_J-town
The REAL PA Coug Fan wrote:
> BTW: On Seattle's plus side, they're still poor white trash and we're the
> Kings of Cool and Style, so we got that going for us. Well, plus education,
> well-paying jobs, teeth, and no cholera.
And you live in Central PA? I bet you don't dare say this crap to your
neighbors. I know I would have to kick your ass.
The REAL PA Coug Fan
PS: I liked you a lot better when you lived in that shed in my backyard and
drank paint all day.
The REAL PA Coug Fan
"SteelerFan_From_J-town" <SteelerFan_...@hotmail.com> wrote in
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> And you live in Central PA? I bet you don't dare say this crap to your
> neighbors. I know I would have to kick your ass.
Ha! Most of my neighbors are from Maryland, having sold their houses for
big $$$ and moved up to Pennsylslovakia to buy mini-mansions. It's sort of
like moving to Costa Rica or Baja California, except there is poverty here.
Most Saturdays it's "Fear the Turtle" in my neighborhood, Sundays are for
Ravens/Redskins. However, if I drive up the road twenty miles, it's
Pennsylslovakian sports schizophrenia: People just wear the gear of
whichever team is playing better, Eagles or Stealers. Matter of fact, same
goes for the Pirates and Phillies.
That being said, it's been nice talking to you Johnboy. Now go and put down
that fancy readin' book and get some shut-eye: You, Pa and Grandad have a
lot of lumber to cut at the mill tomorrow.
Lonnie
> And you live in Central PA? I bet you don't dare say this crap to your
> neighbors. I know I would have to kick your ass.
No. You know that you would have to *try* to kick his ass. One is a
threat and the other is bullshit bravado.
He has already thumped your collective asses in this thread, so my
money is on PA Coug Fan.
Lonnie, kicking back at the Sanctuary
Mister Hand
T_T
Mister Hand
He sure has. We're all in awe of his wit.
SteelerFan_From_J-town
to stick up for him. I'm sure he is thumping yours as well. Say
what you will Steelers are still the Champions and Seattle is still
crying. " Oh the refs stole the game from us...". Just admit that
the Seahawks can't catch, throw, punt or kick a field goal when the
pressure is on them.
The REAL PA Coug Fan
"Mister Hand" <miste...@hotmail.com> wrote in message
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> He sure has. We're all in awe of his wit.
Yeah, but I'm in awe of your Bronco II.
PS: That's a sweet "Bassmaster" tat.
Scotty
> The only thing he is thumping is his own penis. Well now that
you have
> to stick up for him. I'm sure he is thumping yours as well.
Say
> what you will Steelers are still the Champions and Seattle is
still
> crying. " Oh the refs stole the game from us...". Just admit
that
> the Seahawks can't catch, throw, punt or kick a field goal when
the
> pressure is on them.
or tell time.
miste...@hotmail.com
What's a Bassmaster tat?
Speeed Racer!
"Lonnie" <lonnie...@gmail.com> wrote in message
news:1139596766.6...@g47g2000cwa.googlegroups.com...
> SteelerFan_From_J-town wrote:
>
> > And you live in Central PA? I bet you don't dare say this crap to your
> > neighbors. I know I would have to kick your ass.
>
> No. You know that you would have to *try* to kick his ass. One is a
> threat and the other is bullshit bravado.
And YOU know all about bullshit huh, loonie?
Tell me about that push-off play again, assclown...
>
> He has already thumped your collective asses in this thread, so my
> money is on PA Coug Fan.
>
> looney, looney,....looney, didn't you lose enough money by betting on
the seachickens to win the SB?
It's pretty obvious that you've never been to Central Pa.
They grow them boys big over there.
They'd twist your scrawny ass little latte sipping neck into a pretzel.
What a tool.....
>
Lonnie
> Boy, you got that right! There is no way an inbred assclown such as myself
> could ever hope of taking on a Seahawk fan in a battle of wits! Shit! I'm
> unarmed!!!
I'm very glad to see you realize the futility of your actions
> Crap, time to go back to work at Jiffy Lube
Well, we wouldn't want you to miss work.
Lonnie, kicking back at the Colorado Seahawk Sanctuary
The REAL PA Coug Fan
"SteelerFan_From_J-town" <SteelerFan_...@hotmail.com> wrote in
message news:1139597064.4...@g44g2000cwa.googlegroups.com...
> Just admit that the Seahawks can't catch, throw, punt or kick a field goal
> when the
> pressure is on them.
My list of things Pennsylslovakians can/like/often do...
1) Be a father and an uncle to the same child.
2) Get a PhD in "primer and Bondo."
3) Articulately debate the merits of a "Manwich."
4) Become sexually aroused by a mudflap.
5) Pretend they are southerners and didn't lose the Civil War.
6) Make his/her/it's pair of pants last five years.
7) Join a militia.
8) Think catalytic converters are evidence of the "New World Order."
9) Throw "Easy Cheese" and "Aqua Net" cans in their "trash barrel."
10) Put wings, scoops and "Dale Jr." stickers on their Cavaliers.
So many observations, so little time. Maybe I'll add some more tomorrow,
starting with...
...11) Be an Eagles OR Steelers fan, whichever is more convenient on any
given Monday morning.
SteelerFan_From_J-town
kindergarten and change people's words. Well sorry Lonnie but I
graduated High School quite a few years ago, and don't really feel like
acting childish anymore. Not all Pennsylvanians are unemployed. I for
one have a great job fixing computers and networking equipment for the
State of Pennsylvania. I wouldn't be surprised if I make more than you
and you Ass buddy combined. But income has nothing to do with what is
going on. The Super Bowl is over. And aside from the Pro-Bowl, this
football season is over. Next year if your Seahawks are good enough we
will see each other again in Super Bowl XLI.
Wavy G
...and Super Bowl winners! lol
Tony
The worst part of SuperBowl XL is that we have to listen to you sore losers,
who can't support your position with facts and have to resort to sad
elementary school playground recess insults, for the next 3 months...
..or perhaps not...
-->plonk<--
Go Away...
gammon...@yahoo.com
and check out the parts of this thread that are not being cross posted.
Even the folks over there think that this guy is acting like a total
jackass.
Hey "Coug Fan", if you are so well-educated and you hate it so much
in Central PA, then here is a proposal for you. Get a different job
and RELOCATE. Not that hard of a concept, is it? I mean, you must
have a WORLD of opportunities available to you, right? LOL.
My guess is that you are either truly a self-loathing degenerate that
embodies everything that you detest outwardly in this and other
newsgroups, or you are 12 years old and you don't have any choice but
to live with your folks and use their computer when they are busy
trying to avoid you.
Since I am sure you will have to have the last word here - go right
ahead. I promise I'll let you have it. After all, that seems to be
the only way to get you to STFU.
Lonnie
> Oh I see how you want it to be.
You are conviently forgetting about your homosexual comment. I'm not
proud of my reply, but shit happens.
I agree, the SB is over and it is time to look towards the '06 season.
The Seahawks have three main FA situations to deal with, and if they do
things are looking pretty damn good.
Now, this is not a comment intended to raise anyones ire, but I believe
that the Steelers will have a tougher time making it back to the SB
then the Seahawks. The Steelers rode an incredible wave of momentum to
close out the season and into the SB. Repeating *that* is almost
impossible. Can they do it? Maybe, anything can happen, right?
If everything goes right, my Seahawks will be waiting for you in Miami.
Good luck.
Seriously. Good luck.
Lonnie, kicking back by the fire at the Colorado Seahawk Sanctuary
The REAL PA Coug Fan
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> If you are interested in a real laugh, head over to the Hawks newsgroup
> and check out the parts of this thread that are not being cross posted.
> Even the folks over there think that this guy is acting like a total
> jackass.
Settle down. You're getting pretty excited...keep this up and you might
blow a load of children in your pants.
> Hey "Coug Fan", if you are so well-educated and you hate it so much
> in Central PA, then here is a proposal for you. Get a different job
> and RELOCATE. Not that hard of a concept, is it? I mean, you must
> have a WORLD of opportunities available to you, right? LOL.
Yeah but look at it this way: If I left my job in Pennsylslovakia and
moved, I'd be very unique. Right? Oh wait, I forgot about that "rust belt
thingy" and all the people with "dope skillz" leaving for greener pastures.
> My guess is that you are either truly a self-loathing degenerate that
> embodies everything that you detest outwardly in this and other
> newsgroups, or you are 12 years old and you don't have any choice but
> to live with your folks and use their computer when they are busy
> trying to avoid you.
Hmmm...you like to think about me as a twelve year, eh? What are you gonna
do next? Try to get me to meet you somewhere? Offer me candy?
This could be a "Dateline" exclusive, if you catch my drift.
> Since I am sure you will have to have the last word here - go right
> ahead. I promise I'll let you have it. After all, that seems to be
> the only way to get you to STFU.
To quote you, "LOL." I like "LOL." it's so 1997ish. It's like, "Hey, I
just got this WebTV box and I can surf the worldwideweb on my television. I
bet you are jealous, LOL. ;-) xoxo." Yeah, I like LOL and STFU. Oh, I
just cracked myself up. Sure wish I could use one of them there emoticons
to illustrate my glee. ROTFLMAO! Oops, I gotta go: Seems some Germans are
knocking "the Wall" down. See ya'.
Mister Hand
> news:1139602238....@z14g2000cwz.googlegroups.com...
> > If you are interested in a real laugh, head over to the Hawks newsgroup
> > and check out the parts of this thread that are not being cross posted.
> > Even the folks over there think that this guy is acting like a total
> > jackass.
>
> Settle down. You're getting pretty excited...keep this up and you might
> blow a load of children in your pants.
ha....................ha..........................................................ha
Morgan Buchanan
I'll agre that the Steelers have a tougher road in 2006 than the
Seahawks, but I'll say that the primary reason is "NFC West". The
Seahawks are a TERRIFIC team, but that's a SAD division. If the
Seahawks manage to lose the division, it's going to be a titanic
post-superbowl swoon, epic even. I just can't see how they can lose
that division next year.
Jim
Or in your case boyfriend? Thanks for stopping by asshole.
Mulligan
> Now, this is not a comment intended to raise anyones ire, but I believe
> that the Steelers will have a tougher time making it back to the SB
> then the Seahawks. The Steelers rode an incredible wave of momentum to
> close out the season and into the SB. Repeating *that* is almost
> impossible. Can they do it? Maybe, anything can happen, right?
>
> If everything goes right, my Seahawks will be waiting for you in Miami.
> Good luck.
>
> Seriously. Good luck.
>
> Lonnie, kicking back by the fire at the Colorado Seahawk Sanctuary
LOL....So next year when we "again" tell you that the Seahawks had an easier
schedule than
the Steelers there won't be any debate....or will there again???!!!
Riiiight
Dave
Mr. Brian Allen
> that the Steelers will have a tougher time making it back to the SB
> then the Seahawks.
Well no shit. It might have something to do with the fact that the AFC is
clearly better than the NFC.
Mr. Brian Allen
Dude, we get it. You think Pennsylvania is rednickish. It was kinda funny
for a post or two, but now it's getting stale. Please move on.
Mr. Brian Allen
> blow a load of children in your pants.
Worst..... joke.... ever.
Morgan Buchanan
Well, next year the Seahawks have a 1st place schedule and we have a 2nd
place schedule. LOL Of course, we've all decided that SoS means nothing,
right? LMAO
Mulligan
> Well, next year the Seahawks have a 1st place schedule and we have a 2nd
> place schedule. LOL Of course, we've all decided that SoS means nothing,
> right? LMAO
Yes and no....depends on what excuse you need :) At least next year Seattle
can tell us how much stronger they are because of "their" SoS......makes my
head hurt.
Dave
wolfbane
"The REAL PA Coug Fan"
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> ...is that Central Pennsylslovakia is now populated by millions of white
> guys wearing camouflage pants, L.A. Gear sneakers and Stealers' jackets
> that reek of nicotine and B.O. Trust me: It'll be 90 degrees in August
> and all you see on the horizon are mullets, whispy mustaches and Stealers'
> puffy jackets. You can't make this shit up, it's really like that all
> over the freakin' place. It's sort of like when you watch those
> informercials for poor people in 3rd world countries...it's sad, very sad.
> I'm quite sure that in many a Pennsylslovakian household this year, a
> child will go unvaccinated so dad can buy a Stealers' jersey and stickers
> for his Trans-Am.
>
> Oh Appalachia, so proud in spite of your poverty and filth.
>
> BTW: On Seattle's plus side, they're still poor white trash and we're the
> Kings of Cool and Style, so we got that going for us. Well, plus
> education, well-paying jobs, teeth, and no cholera.
Hey Coug! We'll be back better than EVER! As far as the stealers fans, in
their mind they've already lost the football high that comes with the SB
win-(or should i say stolen property). They can't talk shit to nobody!
NOBODY!
wolfbane
eddie wilson
games, an ass-kicking of Biblical proportion.
Morgan Buchanan
Dude. Come on now. The ELITE of the conferences were a very different
story. If you want to compare the 49ers and Texans, by my guest. The
NFC Playoff teams were 12-12 against the AFC. That includes games
against dregs. The AFC playoff teams were 20-4 against the NFC.
rickra...@netscape.net
balls if his big ass chin wouldn't keep getting in the way! You guys
have no life. You'll gloat over this one for thirty years just like
you're pathetic "Steelers of the 70s." Stop thinking the world
revolves around Pittsburgh because it's a Shithole! Lot's of love!
Rickyrick
Scotty
"Lonnie" <lonnie...@gmail.com> wrote
right, my Seahawks will be waiting for you in Miami.
> Good luck.
>
> Seriously. Good luck.
>
Sanctuary
Do you think your Seahawks will 'throw' any of their regular
season games next year, or wait till they're back in the SB ?
S
Scotty
"The REAL PA Coug Fan"
<Cou...@StuckInWhiteTrashLoserVillePennsylslovakia.com> wrote in
>
> "SteelerFan_From_J-town" <SteelerFan_...@hotmail.com>
wrote in
> message
news:1139597064.4...@g44g2000cwa.googlegroups.com...
>
> > Just admit that the Seahawks can't catch, throw, punt or kick
a field goal
> > when the
> > pressure is on them.
>
> My list of things Pennsylslovakians can/like/often do...
>
> 1) Be a father and an uncle to the same child.
> 2) Get a PhD in "primer and Bondo."
> 3) Articulately debate the merits of a "Manwich."
Ha ha ha, holy shit this is funny, I'm eating a Manwich right
now.
S
idiot detector
"Morgan Buchanan" <morganb...@sbcglobal.net> wrote in message
news:e68Hf.54734$PL5....@newssvr11.news.prodigy.com...
At times you can actually come across as bright. Not this time. I don't
recall anybody here stating SOS was irrelevant. What I recall is that you
and your buddies were basically stating that the hawks were overrated due to
their SOS. Your position almost is that a team with a winning record and a
weak SOS must be crap because they played crap teams. I don't follow your
logic, or lack of.
Morgan Buchanan
>
> At times you can actually come across as bright. Not this time. I don't
> recall anybody here stating SOS was irrelevant. What I recall is that you
> and your buddies were basically stating that the hawks were overrated due to
> their SOS. Your position almost is that a team with a winning record and a
> weak SOS must be crap because they played crap teams. I don't follow your
> logic, or lack of.
>
>
Sigh. I never said that. People wanted to SAY I said that, but I never
said that.
All I ever said was "teams that persevere against schedules with really
tough teams seem to be more successful in the playoffs, regardless of
regular season record."
As an example, last year the Patriots were pushed in their division by a
playoff team, while the Steelers cake-walked to 15-1. Who won the AFCC
and then the Super Bowl? But this year the Steelers had a worse regular
season record and even LOST the division, while the Patriots played in a
division without another playoff team. Patriots out in the Divisional
round of the playoffs and the Steelers sweep through 1, 2 and 3 to go to
the SUper Bowl.
idiot detector
I agree with your points and perhaps I had you confused with someone else.
But, your snide reference that "SOS means nothing " was taken on my behalf
as implying that hawk fans were stating that SOS was irrelevant. Perhpas
again, I am mistaken.
Lonnie
> LOL....So next year when we "again" tell you that the Seahawks had an easier
> schedule than
> the Steelers there won't be any debate....or will there again???!!!
> Riiiight
See, that is one of the biggest problems with you Steeler fans right
there. You "think" you know something, and therefore you feel it is a
god given right to show your ignorance to the entire world. This is
really sad, especially in light of the fact that Morgan and I were on
the verge of closing this chapter off.
See ya Assclown...
*PLONK*!
Lonnie, loading up the killfile at the Colorado Seahawk Sanctuary
Morgan Buchanan
No, you didn't mistake me for someone else. My comment was FAR from
snide. I was laughing at the previous blow up, because we're now trying
to decide who has the tougher road to the super bowl next year, and
there is NOTHING to look at EXCEPT strength of schedule...whether that's
using statistical analysis of it or just looking at the teams each plays.
David
I agree with the merit in MB's argument. Teams that are battle-hardened,
battle-tested frequently fare better than their record might imply. In
addition to the examples cited by Morgan, recall whatever teams in those
early nineties years that won the NFC East was gonna be a real bitch in the
post-season. They were all tough (except the Cards who don't count).
Dallas, Philly, Washington, the New York Giants. For a stretch there, three
of those four teams to win the NFC East won 5 Super Bowls in 6 years - and
this was back when the 'Niners cakewalked through the NFC West year in and
year out.
Just weighing in to support Morgan's point.
D
David
That shut "Mr. Biblical proportion" up pretty nicely.
David
If you're "stuck" in an area like you portray, you're worse of a turd than
they are. Just pack up and leave, goober. What's holding you back?
Or is it maybe that your shtick is to pretend you're chin-deep in
Appalachia?
Either way, you bust out some good zingers - so keep posting as far as I'm
concerned. Hammer me if you like - I'd dig it.
D
"The REAL PA Coug Fan"
<Cou...@StuckInWhiteTrashLoserVillePennsylslovakia.com> wrote in message
news:5e-dnacF6r4...@suscom.com...
>
> "SteelerFan_From_J-town" <SteelerFan_...@hotmail.com> wrote in
> message news:1139597064.4...@g44g2000cwa.googlegroups.com...
>
>> Just admit that the Seahawks can't catch, throw, punt or kick a field
>> goal when the
>> pressure is on them.
>
> My list of things Pennsylslovakians can/like/often do...
>
> 1) Be a father and an uncle to the same child.
> 2) Get a PhD in "primer and Bondo."
> 3) Articulately debate the merits of a "Manwich."
> 4) Become sexually aroused by a mudflap.
> 5) Pretend they are southerners and didn't lose the Civil War.
> 6) Make his/her/it's pair of pants last five years.
> 7) Join a militia.
> 8) Think catalytic converters are evidence of the "New World Order."
> 9) Throw "Easy Cheese" and "Aqua Net" cans in their "trash barrel."
> 10) Put wings, scoops and "Dale Jr." stickers on their Cavaliers.
>
> So many observations, so little time. Maybe I'll add some more tomorrow,
> starting with...
>
> ...11) Be an Eagles OR Steelers fan, whichever is more convenient on any
> given Monday morning.
>
>
Mr. Brian Allen
It's not even about numbers. Anybody that watched and compared the AFC to
the NFC this year could clearly see that the AFC was better. They have
better teams, individual players, coaches, etc... There's no comparison.
It's almost as in favor for the AFC now as it was for the NFC in the late
80's and early 90's.
Joe Cipale
> The REAL PA Coug Fan wrote:
>
>>...is that Central Pennsylslovakia is now populated by millions of white
>
>
> Bad troll. Bad! No biscuit!
>
truth hurt dude?
Joe Cipale
> The only thing he is thumping is his own penis.
damn... what IS it with the steeler fans and their love of the male
genitalia?
Joe Cipale
> The REAL PA Coug Fan wrote:
>
>>Kings of Cool and Style, so we got that going for us. Well, plus education,
>>well-paying jobs, teeth, and no cholera.
>
>
> neighbors. I know I would have to kick your ass.
>
And we would all laugh as he bitch-slaps your butt back to
pennsylachia.. or wherever the hell it
is inbred gorillas like you come from...
eddie wilson
And it's totally meaningless. People use the term AFC team as if it
were a brand name. As if they are better BECAUSE of their affiliation
with that conference. It's an artificial seperation of the 32 teams.
It's got no basis in fact.
(Now, if you were to argue that there's a difference in players
according to where they are born, that's another story. I'm sure
everyone from PA, FL, TX... can have fun with that.)
Saying the AFC is better is just fiction. It doesn't exist. It's
merely an abstract.
Also, if the AFC was so tough, how could they lose 3 of 4 to the
Eagles? And Rams?
Morgan Buchanan
The separation is artificial, but as teams rise and fall, they rise and
fall at different rates. At various times one artificial group will
have more quality teams than the other. It has nothing to do with the
"afc/nfc" thing, that's just how we happen to codify them. While one
conference is enjoying a slight advantage, it may accelerate due to
those teams facing tougher competition. But eventually things happen to
knock them off that pedestal. Players age, teams get in salary cap
trouble by spending tomorrow's cash today, and so on.
The edge the AFC currently has is due to the teams being better, not the
other way around, which would be the teams are better merely because
they're in the AFC. And this is just an averaging thing. The Seahawks
would be a top team in the AFC as well. But to think that on average
each conference is equal is quite mistaken.
eddie wilson
going 8-8 every year.
Morgan Buchanan
> 34 to 30 is damn close to equal. As for averaging... NFL teams average
> going 8-8 every year.
>
But 12-12 vs 20-4 isn't very freaking equal, is it? NFC Playoff teams
vs. the AFC = 12 wins for the NFC, 12 wins for the AFC. AFC playoff
teams vs. the NFC = 20 wins for the AFC, 4 wins for the NFC.
I said it in another thread. If you want to compare the 49ers and the
Texans, be my guest. But don't expect me to read, follow or care. The
elite of the AFC is currently a step ahead of the Elite of the NFC. If
you held a round robin tourney where the 6 NFC playoff teams played each
of the 6 AFC playoff teams, the AFC would win a noticeable number more
of those games. Seattle may be the only team from the NFC to have a
winning record in that scenario.
It used to be the other way. 16 or so superbowls in a row is pretty
significant. Now it's the AFC way. 7 out of the last 9. I'm not
suggesting that there aren't good teams in the NFC. Not at all. I'd
never even suggest that the worst team in the league is incapable of
beating the best team in the league. On any given Sunday and all that,
which is why they play the games. When I'm galking about average, I'm
not talking about records, I'm talking about "team quality" which is
hard to quantify, but like pornography, we generally know it when we see
it.
David
"eddie wilson" <rquig...@rcn.com> wrote in message
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Ed, you gotta learn to distinguish what is and isn't a causal relation.
Seriously.
David
> 34 to 30 is damn close to equal. As for averaging... NFL teams average
> going 8-8 every year.
>
Ed still doesn't get it ........... even when it's spelled out in plain
english and no one anywhere agrees with him. Ohhhhhhhhhhhhh Eddie.....
eddie wilson
non-playoff teams is misleading. The term AFC teams means all of them,
not just the ones that support a theory.
You know, there is a group of teams that has a signifigant competitive
edge. Eastern Time Zone teams won~72 to 54 IIRC.
Don't forget 3 in a row and 4 of 5 SBs won by teams coached by a guy
named Bill.
Morgan Buchanan
Ok. Enjoy your world. What color is the sky, by the way?
David
Ed,
Your problem is you don't seem to know what statistics should be selected.
Nobody cares about the stat you choose to focus on - it's meaningless. It's
ridiculous, but you're none the wiser.
Think of it this way. Imagine you have a group of guys with full heads of
hair in one room but not a lot of hair otherwise - whereas in the other
room, you have a bunch of guys with bald heads but plenty of furry thickets
of coarse, heavy hair all over their back and rest of their body.
In your twisted logic, both samplings of people are equal if the follicle
count is the same.
Wrong answer. You have to look to the heart of the issue - you need to
recognize what component(s) of the information is actually useful.
Does this analogy resonate in any way with you???
D
eddie wilson
value on drawing a distinction between conferences. It's true from
time to time that teams wearing certain colors win alot. Doesn't mean
a thing.
As for my choice of stats, it's won me a bit of money over the years
betting on Eastern teams.
Thanks, it's been fun. Later.
Skeets
world?
what about the midwestern time zones?
i thought the seasquawk fans bragged about being "smart?"
eddie, the importance of the afc's elite teams being betetr than the
nfc's elite teams is that the two conferences meet in the SB. the team
from the afc has to play better teams in the playoffs to make the big
show (the one's that kicked dirt in the face of the nfc, not the
texans).
that means that when they get to the SB, they don't have to push off
dbs to get open, hold defensive ends to make plays, the convert on 3rd
and 28, they have 75 yard, SB record setting runs and their trick plays
generally work out better - they've actually already played and beaten
very good teams and have done a better job perfecting their technique.
got it now? sheeeesh!
reading for comprehension isn't your strong suit.
lonnie...@gmail.com
> > Now, this is not a comment intended to raise anyones ire, but I believe
> > that the Steelers will have a tougher time making it back to the SB
> > then the Seahawks.
>
> Well no shit. It might have something to do with the fact that the AFC is
> clearly better than the NFC.
Well, I was speaking in context of talent rather than conference. The
Steelers are good, but without a goodly amount of luck they would not
have made it to playoffs let alone the SB.
I didn't want to word it that way originally because I'm actually
trying to play nice with you folks. I don't mean to slam the Steelers
one bit, but I am not sold on R-Berger and he could prove to be your
Achiles Heal next year.
Lonnie, kicking back at the Colorado Seahawk Sanctuary
lonnie...@gmail.com
Lonnie
> I'll agre that the Steelers have a tougher road in 2006 than the
> Seahawks, but I'll say that the primary reason is "NFC West". The
> Seahawks are a TERRIFIC team, but that's a SAD division. If the
> Seahawks manage to lose the division, it's going to be a titanic
> post-superbowl swoon, epic even. I just can't see how they can lose
> that division next year.
I can't and won't argue about the depth of competition in the NFC West.
A team of Seattle's caliber would almost have to try to lose it.
Lonnie, kicking back at the Sanctuary
Morgan Buchanan
DUDE. You don't know bubkus about the Steelers. If they had any LUCK,
they wouldn't have lost thier star QB for as many games as they did.
One win over one of the crap teams they lost to but the slimmest of
margins and they're division champs. They got hit by bad luck to BE ON
THE BUBBLE, not the other way around, getting hit by good luck to make
the playoffs. Know your facts.
Don't be sold on him. Say it's a team game. That's fine. And I agree
that it's a team game and he's not perfect. All I know is, our record
with him is a huge margin better than our record without him.
Morgan Buchanan
I'm glad you didn't take that as a slam on Seattle, as it's not. Now,
if they lose the division next year, I'll slam them for THAT, but I'll
be in line behind every Seahawk fan on the planet, I'm sure.
eddie wilson
At least I don't incorrectly assume what anyone's favorite team may be.
Flint
> The edge the AFC currently has is due to the teams being better, not the
> other way around, which would be the teams are better merely because
> they're in the AFC. And this is just an averaging thing. The Seahawks
> would be a top team in the AFC as well. But to think that on average
> each conference is equal is quite mistaken.
I'm not so sure about that. Before the Seahawks went to the NFC as a
result of league realignment, they weren't a 'top' team when they were
still in the AFC west. They had a couple years of being contenders, but
thats about it AFAIR. Undoubtedly, Holmgren elevated their play, but I
still maintain they were, and still are something of a paper tiger.
As for the AFC/NFC thing in general, I have to disagree here as well. I
do think the AFC is the inherently stronger conference >right now<. No,
the AFC isn't the better conference simply by default, but it is the
stronger conference by virtue of a combination of things, and right now
it seems to enjoy an edge in two significant areas: cap management and
quality coaching.
-Rick
Morgan Buchanan
Dude, that sort of proves the point, don't you think? A middle of the
road AFC team goes to the NFC in the middle of an AFC dominant period in
history and all of a sudden, they're a top NFC team?
Wait...I'm confused. We have to agree to disagree, then you say the AFC
is an inherently stronger conference right now, which is ALL I WAS
SAYING. I'm not suggesting that it has always been so, I'm saying RIGHT
NOW and for the past few years the balance of power has been there. It
will change again. Then again. Then again.
Scotty
<lonnie...@gmail.com> wrote
>
> Well, I was speaking in context of talent rather than
conference. The
> Steelers are good, but without a goodly amount of luck
they would not
> have made it to playoffs let alone the SB.
yet we have the trophy. Ironic, ain't it?
S