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Valmont Industries

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Jul 8, 1999, 3:00:00 AM7/8/99
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I think the spurs will have a pretty quiet offseason. Will is probably gone.
The raptors, wizards, kings, and yes even the lovable jazz have all shown
interest. He has said many times that he wouldn't mind wants more minutes
and i also think he wouldn't mind the 10-20 mil he can get from those teams.
The most the spurs would pay for a backup big man is around 2-4 mil per. L.
Wright is asking for around 6 per, Outlaw also wants about 6 per, and
Polynice is a head case. There is no way the spurs would/should sign him. He
thinks he is the greatest thing to happen to basketball since Jordan. if he
makes a shot (not very often) he runs up the court like he just hit a game
winner. His teammates are like "dude its 6 to 4, calm down". One time when
he was on Sac he was quoted as saying "if they just passed me the ball more
i could average 30...instead of Richmond shooting threes, they should just
pass it to me down low". Sorry about the rant, but i hate that guy. A good
backup big man could be a guy like Mark Bryant. He won't demand a big
contract and he can come in and bang, play defense, and rebound. Gerald King
might be good enough to play back up center, it all depends on how he plays
in the summer leagues. He showed some good post moves in garbage time last
year and he is 6'9 to 6'10 which is about the size the spurs are looking
for.
I agree about what y'all are saying about JJ. If he thinks he is lucky to be
in this position, he will re-sign. If he thinks that he has become a star,
he will sign somewhere else. We would miss him and i am almost certain he
would struggle if he moved to a different team. The spurs are a perfect fit
for him. Talking about perfect fits, Malik just fits the spurs perfectly.
His height (or lack of) doesn't hurt him because he is always on the court
with either duncan or dave. If he did decide to sign with another team, i
think he would also struggle because of his height.

The spurs did the right thing in this draft. They didn't need any more
contracts and they got two guys who could be solid players in the future.
And if not, it doesn't really matter because we don't owe them any money. It
will be interesting to see how last years 2nd round pick Derrick Dial does
in the coming summer league. The coaches seem impressed with what he did
last year in greece. He average about 19 points and that was good enough for
the leading scorer on his team. He was also in the league leader in three
pointers made. His shooting percentages were not great (about 42% overall,
35% at threes), but that is to be expected for the leading scorer on a bad
team (his team was 10-16 overall, 0-13 on the road). His only problem is
that his role would be the same as steve kerr. He is taller than steve kerr
(6'5) and is a better defender, but it is always good to have a proven
winner like kerr.

Talking about kerr, it wouldn't shock me if he isn't a spur next year. He
might be part of a sign and trade with Will. One trade that is possible is
will and kerr to washington for cheaney and terry davis. that would be a
pretty good trade, but i am not a huge terry davis fan. Kerr is a good
player but last year he didn't really fit well with the spurs. the spurs are
a defensive team and the weakest part of kerr's game is his defense. but
this season the spurs have a training camp and can find a way to fit him
into the team.

the players that the spurs might go after is a player like dale ellis. he is
a veteran that is only playing now to get a ring, and the spurs can never
have too much outside shooting. hopefully there will be players that will
want a ring and sign with the spurs for less money.

the backup point is another question for the spurs. they might go after a
veteran point like greg anthoney or terry porter if they are not confident
with antonio daniels. personally, i think daniels will be a very good player
one day and that they should give him some more minutes next year to get him
ready for when it is his team. all he needs to do is get the mental part of
the game down because he has all the physical skills.

it looks like pop is planing to sign a lot of players next offseason. the
only spur under contract for the season after next is steve kerr. with all
that cap room, pop will probably try hard to sign sprewell. pop and him are
good friends and i think sprewell would be a great compliment to duncan.
other players he could go after are ron mercer and derek anderson. after
signing the free agents he would then re-sign duncan, robinson, elliott, aj
etc. (if we get the arena that is)

lets just hope that duncan won't have to play a lot these upcoming pre
olympic games. and then we can see how the spurs players (daniels,dial,
king, williams)play in the summer leagues.


Spurs Fan

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Jul 8, 1999, 3:00:00 AM7/8/99
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Valmont Industries wrote:

> I think the spurs will have a pretty quiet offseason. Will is probably
> gone.
> The raptors, wizards, kings, and yes even the lovable jazz have all
> shown
> interest. He has said many times that he wouldn't mind wants more
> minutes
> and i also think he wouldn't mind the 10-20 mil he can get from those
> teams.
> The most the spurs would pay for a backup big man is around 2-4 mil
> per.

You get what you pay for. Remember that.


> A good
> backup big man could be a guy like Mark Bryant.

Perhaps, yet undersized.

> He won't demand a big
> contract and he can come in and bang, play defense, and rebound.
> Gerald King
> might be good enough to play back up center,

Hmm....dunno about that....

> I agree about what y'all are saying about JJ. If he thinks he is lucky
> to be
> in this position, he will re-sign. If he thinks that he has become a
> star,
> he will sign somewhere else. We would miss him and i am almost certain
> he
> would struggle if he moved to a different team. The spurs are a
> perfect fit
> for him.

Jackson is staying.

> The spurs did the right thing in this draft. They didn't need any more
>
> contracts and they got two guys who could be solid players in the
> future.
> And if not, it doesn't really matter because we don't owe them any
> money.

YES.

> His only problem is
> that his role would be the same as steve kerr.

what do you mean by that? Kerr was the 2guard and also playedsome one.
If he can create opportunities to score for himself,
the Spurs will go to him at times, in order to add a little variety
to the offense.

> He is taller than steve kerr
> (6'5) and is a better defender, but it is always good to have a proven
>
> winner like kerr.

yes

> Kerr is a good
> player but last year he didn't really fit well with the spurs. the
> spurs are
> a defensive team and the weakest part of kerr's game is his defense.
> but
> this season the spurs have a training camp and can find a way to fit
> him
> into the team.

Still, Kerr feeding Duncan in the post is worth keeping him.

> the players that the spurs might go after is a player like dale ellis.
> he is
> a veteran that is only playing now to get a ring, and the spurs can
> never
> have too much outside shooting. hopefully there will be players that
> will
> want a ring and sign with the spurs for less money.

yes, but Ellis is under contract with Orlando until 2001, when he'llbe
eligible for Medicare. But, yes, he would be a good addition if the
Magic does release him.

> the backup point is another question for the spurs.

Not really. Daniels should flourish in that role.

> they might go after a
> veteran point like greg anthoney or terry porter

Hmmm.....it would be nice to have another ball handler on theteam, but I
don't see a roster spot for one of them, as of right
now.....

> if they are not confident
> with antonio daniels. personally, i think daniels will be a very good
> player
> one day and that they should give him some more minutes next year to
> get him
> ready for when it is his team. all he needs to do is get the mental
> part of
> the game down because he has all the physical skills.

Yes.


>
>
> it looks like pop is planing to sign a lot of players next offseason.

oh yeah, Eddie Jones, Sprewell, Mercer, McGrady, Grant Hill,
etc...willall be free agents in the summer of 2000. Don't be surprised
if
Sprewell is in the silver and black in 2000.


> the
> only spur under contract for the season after next is steve kerr. with
> all
> that cap room, pop will probably try hard to sign sprewell. pop and
> him are
> good friends and i think sprewell would be a great compliment to
> duncan.
> other players he could go after are ron mercer and derek anderson.
> after
> signing the free agents he would then re-sign duncan, robinson,
> elliott, aj
> etc. (if we get the arena that is)

The Spurs should be able to clear some sizable cap room if Robinson,AJ,
and Elliott are cooperative in the structure of their contracts....

The Village Idiot

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Jul 11, 1999, 3:00:00 AM7/11/99
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In article <3788d1c5....@news.flash.net>, no-...@flash.net (Peter
Kelly) wrote:
> Just Say No to Sprewell. The Spurs don't need him. While he might be
> an improvement, he isn't worth the risk. The Spurs have won it all
> with character and integrity. Let's keep winning the same way.

I was pretty disappointed with Sprewell after the chocking incident, but
after seeing the way he carried himself in the playoffs, I'm not so sure
that there wasn't more to that story. He showed a lot of class and was a
pretty gracious loser, even though he almost single handedly carried New
York to a game 6. A lot of people were saying that PJ was just as much to
blame for the incident.

That being said, I don't think the Spurs should monkey with the team that
much. Whay change what works?


Spurn

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Jul 11, 1999, 3:00:00 AM7/11/99
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>
>That being said, I don't think the Spurs should monkey with the team that
>much. Whay change what works?


Because we don't want to end up like Houston. Now I would he happy
with 2 titles, but the Spurs have an opportunity to build a dynasty.
In 2000, Spurs could afford Spree, Eddie Jones or Ron Mercer. If
Daniels works out at PG and the Spurs signed Mercer, we could be set
at PF (or Tim can move to C), SG and PG for TEN+ years. All we would
need is a couple of solid guys to fill the other two spots and we are
set. Barring injury, Sean is probably good for 4 to 5 more years. Dave
and AJ might be good for 3 years as starters or maybe even longer as
bench players. Our biggest problem is for how much longer can Elie be
effective? I say ONE more year---actually, I think he should be on
thebench already. JJ is proabably good for 3 or 4 more years on the
bench.

Spree could have us set for 6 years at SG, Eddie for 7 years.

The player I value the most at SG is Eddie, but because of Mercer's
youth, I would be leaning towards him.

This summer, I would like the Spurs to pick up a filler at SG (fill
the starting spot until 2000 when we can sign one of the above).
A guy that comes to mind is 28 year old Calbert Cheaney. He could
start for us next season at SG and in 2000 he could back up both SF
and SG.


The Village Idiot

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Jul 13, 1999, 3:00:00 AM7/13/99
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In article <3788ef1c...@news.earthlink.net>, mkher...@earthlink.net
(Spurn) wrote:

> Because we don't want to end up like Houston. Now I would he happy
> with 2 titles, but the Spurs have an opportunity to build a dynasty.
> In 2000, Spurs could afford Spree, Eddie Jones or Ron Mercer.

I don't see why the Celtics would let him go, but I'd take Mercer in a
heartbeat. He's the most underrated player on that team. Walker's the most
overrated.


Spurn

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Jul 14, 1999, 3:00:00 AM7/14/99
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>I don't see why the Celtics would let him go, but I'd take Mercer in a
>heartbeat. He's the most underrated player on that team. Walker's the most
>overrated.
>

Mercer has had his fill of Rick Pittino. More importantly, the C's
don't think Mercer is worth the max deal. I ASSUMED he would get the
max, but so far in contract extension talks C's are nowhere near the
max.


Spurs Fan

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Jul 14, 1999, 3:00:00 AM7/14/99
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Peter Kelly wrote:

> Just Say No to Sprewell. The Spurs don't need him. While he might be
>
> an improvement, he isn't worth the risk.

And that risk is what? He looks to Pop "like a father", AJand DRob have
both stated that they would have no problem playing
with him.

Looks like AJ and DRob understand the concept of forgiveness better
than yourself.


> The Spurs have won it all
> with character and integrity. Let's keep winning the same way.
>

hmm...."character and integrity"...what exactly do those words mean?

I hate to burst your bubble, but the Spurs don't have a monopoly
on that....


Spurs Fan

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Spurs Fan

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The Village Idiot wrote:

> I was pretty disappointed with Sprewell after the chocking incident,
> but
> after seeing the way he carried himself in the playoffs, I'm not so
> sure
> that there wasn't more to that story. He showed a lot of class and was
> a
> pretty gracious loser, even though he almost single handedly carried
> New
> York to a game 6. A lot of people were saying that PJ was just as much
> to
> blame for the incident.

Sprewell shouldn't have done what he did, but have people given up
on forgiveness? Man, no wonder there's a lot of screwed up things and
people in this world......


> That being said, I don't think the Spurs should monkey with the team
> that
> much. Whay change what works?

Well, the original poster, I believe, is referring to next offseason,
when
Sprewell is a free agent and the Spurs should be able to create some cap

room to bring in a "big-name" free agent...

For next season, I think you're right. This team has one more year's
time together before the Spurs will certainly have to retool and get
younger

Spurs Fan

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Jul 14, 1999, 3:00:00 AM7/14/99
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Spurn wrote:

> >
> >That being said, I don't think the Spurs should monkey with the team
> that
> >much. Whay change what works?
>

> Because we don't want to end up like Houston. Now I would he happy
> with 2 titles, but the Spurs have an opportunity to build a dynasty.

> In 2000, Spurs could afford Spree, Eddie Jones or Ron Mercer. If
> Daniels works out at PG and the Spurs signed Mercer, we could be set
> at PF (or Tim can move to C), SG and PG for TEN+ years.

Yes, one more year with the current roster, then get younger......


> All we would
> need is a couple of solid guys to fill the other two spots and we are
> set. Barring injury, Sean is probably good for 4 to 5 more years.

Hmm.....maybe about 3 more seasons as a starter.

> Dave
> and AJ might be good for 3 years as starters or maybe even longer as
> bench players.

DRob can play as long as his back holds up. I mean, he could play
another5 seasons if he was relatively healthy and he still wanted to
play.
As for AJ, I see him starting for one more season, with Daniels getting
more
PT, then AJ going to the bench and Daniels starting....


> Our biggest problem is for how much longer can Elie be
> effective? I say ONE more year---actually, I think he should be on
> thebench already. JJ is proabably good for 3 or 4 more years on the
> bench.

After next season, a lot of the old guys will be gone, most
likely....Kerr, Elie, Kersey, for example.

The Spurs will get younger in 2000.


> Spree could have us set for 6 years at SG, Eddie for 7 years.

Hmm.....Spree will be 30 in 2000, Jones, 29.....

> The player I value the most at SG is Eddie, but because of Mercer's
> youth, I would be leaning towards him.

True, but just how good is he? If there was one free agent I'd like
theSpurs to get, it'd be Grant Hill, who will be available in 2000.

> This summer, I would like the Spurs to pick up a filler at SG (fill
> the starting spot until 2000 when we can sign one of the above).
> A guy that comes to mind is 28 year old Calbert Cheaney. He could
> start for us next season at SG and in 2000 he could back up both SF
> and SG.

But Cheaney will want to be more than just 'filler'...and be paid more
than what 'filler' would be paid.

What you'll see at the 2 spot this next season will be a platoon of
Elie/Jackson/Kerr/Dial...the Spurs will go with that until they
can bringin some backcourt talent in 2000.

Albert Chang

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Sorry to jump in with an unrelated topic, my ISP doesn't allow
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The Village Idiot

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Jul 17, 1999, 3:00:00 AM7/17/99
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In article <378C9AE2...@99NBAchamps.com>, Spurs Fan
<sp...@99NBAchamps.com> wrote:
> As for AJ, I see him starting for one more season, with Daniels getting
> more PT, then AJ going to the bench and Daniels starting....

I think AJ will still start for another two or three years, and Daniels will
be brought along very slowly, and evaluated along the way. AJ keeps himself
in unbelievable physical condition. I could easily see him starting when
he's 36 or 37. Few players are more dedicated to their conditioning.

What's really amazing is that NONE of the Spurs were out of shape right from
the start, even though it looked like the lockout would kill the season.

> After next season, a lot of the old guys will be gone, most
> likely....Kerr, Elie, Kersey, for example.

From what I remember, Kerr was given a five year front-loaded deal from San
Antonio (well, technically Chicago, and then traded to S.A. for Person) He's
got four more left, and the contract supposedly counts less against the cap
with every year.

>If there was one free agent I'd like the Spurs to get, it'd be Grant


>Hill, who will be available in 2000.

I guess we can all submit a wish list, eh? That would be a remarkable
combination, but Hill is a guaranteed 71 million dollar player, and Detroit
won't let him get away without ample compensation.

> What you'll see at the 2 spot this next season will be a platoon of
> Elie/Jackson/Kerr/Dial...the Spurs will go with that until they
> can bringin some backcourt talent in 2000.

I really don't see any free agents flocking to the San Antonio gravy train,
unless they get the arena issue resolved, resign Duncan for the long haul,
and prove that they're a perennial contender. If they can succeed in
accomplishing all these things, then you might see some major players
looking South for the next ten years.

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