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Lies My Psychology Professors Taught Me
by Dave McGowan

[New] technologies are conditioning a growing segment of the society
to regard all deviance as sickness and to accept increasingly narrow
standards of acceptable behavior as scientifically normative ...
Together the new programs and technologies are part of a burgeoning
establishment involving welfare institutions, universities,
hospitals, the drug industry, government at all levels, and organized
psychiatry (itself in large part a creation of government) ... The
ideal, in the view of the behaviorists, is the paranoid's dream, a
method so smooth that no one will know his behavior is being
manipulated and against which no resistance is therefore possible ...
There is no longer a set of impositions which he can regard as unjust
or capricious and against which he can dream of rebelling. To
entertain such dreams would be madness. Gradually, even the ability
to imagine alternatives begins to fade. This is, after all, not only
the best of all possible worlds; it is the only one.
Peter Schrag Mind Control, Pantheon, 1978

I have a degree in psychology from UCLA. I don't know exactly where
it is, though I'm sure it's safely filed away somewhere. It's not
really worth much though. I don't mean that it doesn't have much
value in the job market, though that is surely the case. No, it isn't
worth much because it was awarded to me on the supposition that I had
gained a substantial level of knowledge about the field of
psychology, which in hindsight was clearly a faulty premise.
It's not that I didn't try to learn. I actually did a very
good job of regurgitating back the information that was presented to
me, even graduating with honors. No, the problem was that - despite
the exalted reputation of the UCLA psychology department - none of my
professors seemed to be particularly interested in teaching me what
psychology is really about.
I have a much better understanding now, though I had to fill
in many of the gaps in my education on my own. Doing so, by the way,
took considerably less time than the four years I spent being spoon-
fed pseudo-knowledge at college. Society doesn't place any value on
the acquisition of such knowledge however, so I don't have any kind
of degree for my post-college education. Nevertheless, I thought I'd
pass along some of the information that I wasn't formally taught, for
whatever it's worth.
One thing I was taught was that John Watson is a much revered
figure in the field of psychology, considered the father of
'behaviorism.' Watson, who began his career in 1908 as a professor of
psychology and the director of the psychological laboratory at Johns
Hopkins University, was perhaps most notable for venturing into the
field of infant study in 1918 - at the time a largely unexplored area
of research.
Watson conditioned a fear response in an infant identified
only as 'Little Albert,' afterwards triumphantly declaring that "men
are built, not born." Ten years later, Watson penned what was at the
time considered the bible of child-rearing, Psychological Care of
Infant and Child, assuming the mantle that would later be worn by Dr.
Spock.
Unfortunately, there are a couple of elements of this story
that seem to have been omitted from my textbooks, one of which is
that Little Albert was not just some random infant; he was, in fact,
the illegitimate son of the good doctor himself. And how did the
reigning expert on childcare fare as a father? Not too well, it
seems: Albert Watson was so traumatized by his upbringing at the
hands of his father that he committed suicide shortly after reaching
adulthood.
Watson had long since left his position at Johns Hopkins
amidst a nasty divorce from his first wife, presumably precipitated
by her displeasure with the revelation that Watson's experiments had
included impregnating his nurse and torturing their resultant
offspring. In 1921, Watson headed for Madison Avenue where he put the
behavior modification expertise he had acquired by traumatizing
infants to work on a society-wide level, ushering in the era of
modern propaganda (oops, I meant to say advertising). Along the way,
he would find U.S. intelligence services to be an excellent source of
funding, as would all the characters in this sordid tale.
Following closely in the footsteps of Dr. Watson was B.F.
Skinner, the other revered figure in the behaviorist school of
psychology. Skinner - who had received a defense grant during World
War II to study the training of pigeons for use as part of an early
missile guidance system (I don't just make this shit up) - invented
what he termed the 'Air Crib' in 1945, which was essentially a
sensory deprivation chamber built specifically for infants.
Like Watson, he used his own child as a human guinea pig,
raising her in the thermostatically controlled, sound-proof isolation
chamber for the first two years of her life, cut off from human
contact. Skinner ultimately followed a bit too closely in the
footsteps of his mentor; Debby Skinner, like Albert Watson, committed
suicide in her twenties.
In 1948, Skinner joined the faculty of Harvard, putting him
in the company of such luminaries as Dr. Martin Orne, the head of the
Office of Naval Research's Committee on Hypnosis and later a
prominent member of the False Memory Syndrome Foundation. Skinner and
Orne - as well as numerous others at Harvard, including Timothy Leary
and Richard Alpert - received heavy funding from both the CIA and the
U.S. Army.
In 1971, Skinner published an unabashedly fascistic diatribe
entitled Beyond Freedom and Dignity, advocating a dystopian society
in which freedom and dignity were outmoded concepts. It earned him a
cover story in Time magazine and the honor of having his work named
the most important book of the year by the New York Times.
Also on board at Harvard at the time was Dr. Henry Murray,
overseeing the work of Leary's Psychedelic Drug Research Program and
various other CIA-funded projects. So deified was this man during my
years at UCLA that an entire undergraduate course focused almost
exclusively on his supposedly brilliant work. Yet during that course,
no mention was ever made of the fact that Murray was a fully owned
asset of the intelligence community. Recruited during World War II by
none other than Wild Bill Donovan, Murray was put to work running the
Personality Assessments section of the OSS.
Murray's best known contribution to the field of personality
assessment - the Thematic Apperception Test (TAT) - was in fact
developed as a tool of the U.S. military/intelligence complex. After
the war, Murray was one of the key players in the CIA's MK-ULTRA
projects, studying various methods of achieving control of the human
mind. One of his best research subjects during his days at Harvard
was a young undergraduate by the name of Theodore Kaczynski.
Perhaps even more revered than Murray was Dr. Louis Jolyon
West, the head of the UCLA Psychiatry Department and the director of
the prestigious UCLA Neuropsychiatric Institute. Dr. West was another
prominent participant in the MK-ULTRA program who would eventually
wind up on the board of the False Memory Syndrome Foundation. His
work with the military/intelligence community began at least as far
back as 1958, when he conducted studies funded by the U.S. Air Force
in surviving torture as a prisoner-of-war.
If you're wondering how it is possible to study the
conditioning of soldiers to survive torture without inflicting that
very same torture in the process, the answer is simple: it isn't. A
few years later, West achieved a moment of fame when he injected a
beloved elephant at the Oklahoma City Zoo with a massive 300,00
microgram dose of LSD to observe how it would react; Tusko's reaction
was to promptly drop dead.
In 1964, West was called upon to evaluate the 'mental state'
of a man by the name of Jack Ruby, at the time being held pending
trial for the murder of Lee Harvey Oswald. West quickly determined
that Ruby was delusional, based on his obviously absurd belief that
there was some sort of fascist conspiracy behind the assassination of
President Kennedy. Dr. Jolly, as he was known to colleagues, ordered
Ruby drugged with 'happy pills.' Ruby subsequently died of cancer,
which he maintained he had been deliberately infected with. Having
finished up that assignment, the doctor soon after found himself a
crash-pad in the Haight where he could 'observe' the acid subculture
in its native environment by drugging unwitting 'subjects.'
West is probably most notorious for proposing in 1972 to then
California Governor Ronald Reagan the creation of a Center for the
Study and Reduction of Violence, to be built on a remote abandoned
missile test site in the Santa Monica Mountains. Among his earliest
recruits were Leonard Rubenstein, formerly a top aide to Dr. David
Ewen Cameron, as well as two South American doctors who had also
worked for Cameron - one to run the shock room and the other to run
the psychosurgery suite.
At the time, the two were employed at 'detention centers' in Paraguay
and Chile, which is a nice way of saying that they were working at
torture/interrogation centers run by Nazi exile communities (many of
these detention centers - including the notorious Colonia Dignidad in
Chile - still exist to this day).
Also recruited by West was Dr. Frank Ervin, one of a trio of
Harvard psychosurgeons who had not long before proposed lobotomy as
the solution to urban 'rioting'. The center was to work in
conjunction with California law enforcement and had secured large
grants from the U.S. Law Enforcement Assistance Administration and
the National Institute of Mental Health. These two organizations had
forged a close alliance in 1970 with the encouragement of the Nixon
Administration, with both of them heavily involved in funding MK-
ULTRA projects. There were to be psychologists, physicians and
sociologists on board - mostly recruited from among West's disciples
at the Neuropsychiatric Institute - as well as lawyers, police
officers, probation officers and clergymen.
The goal of the center was to identify 'predelinquents' and
treat them before their 'deviance' and supposed propensity for
violence could be manifest. The team believed that predelinquents
could be identified on the basis of several factors: socioeconomic
status (poor), age (young), ethnicity (black), and sex (males).
Treatments under consideration included electroshock, chemical
castration, experimental drug therapy, and psychosurgery -- better
known as lobotomy (the 'surgical' destruction of the frontal lobes of
the brain).
Lobotomy was, curiously enough, developed in fascist Portugal
in 1935 by Dr. Egaz Moniz as a tool of social control. It was
introduced to America the following year by James Watts and Walter
Freeman, the latter of whom would later boast of having personally
performed over 4,000 lobotomies in the United States, for all of the
following 'conditions': apprehension, anxiety, depression,
compulsions, obsessions, drug addiction, and sexual deviance.
By the post-war years, lobotomy was big business, warmly
embraced by the Veteran's Administration and heartily recommended for
vets suffering from combat-related 'disorders.' Moniz's procedure did
not prove too popular with his patients however. In 1939 he was shot
and partially paralyzed by a former patient. Sixteen years later,
another former patient finished the job, beating Nobel laureate Moniz
to death.
Electro-shock therapy was likewise an import from fascist
Europe, developed by Ugo Cerletti in Italy in 1938. Appropriately
enough, this 'medical advance' was based on Cerletti's observation of
cattle being jolted into submission as they were being led to
slaughter. Another form of shock therapy - insulin shock - was
introduced by Sakel in fascist Austria just a few years earlier.
One name that never came up in my years at UCLA was that of
the aforementioned Dr. David Ewen Cameron. Considering that Cameron
is probably the most honored North American psychiatrist of the last
half-century, this appears in retrospect a rather remarkable
omission. During his career, Cameron founded the Canadian Mental
Health Association and served as chairman of the Canadian Scientific
Planning Committee, president of the American Psychiatric
Association, president of the Canadian Psychiatric Association, and
the first president of the World Association of Psychiatrists. He was
also the psychiatrist most thoroughly co-opted by U.S. intelligence
services in all of North America.
His intelligence career began at least as early as 1941, when
he was sent by Allen Dulles to England on behalf of the OSS to
'ascertain the state of mind' of Rudolph Hess, Hitler's right-hand
man who had supposedly 'defected' to the UK. Cameron was during this
time a member of the Military Mobilization Committee of the American
Psychiatric Association, in which capacity he also worked closely
with Dulles.
By 1943, Cameron had founded the Allan Memorial Institute in
Montreal with a generous grant from (where else?) the Rockefeller
Foundation. The institute continued to receive lavish support from
the Rockefellers for at least the next decade, as well as the
generous support of the CIA through various funding conduits.
In 1946, Cameron helped craft the Nuremberg Code on medical
research, setting ethical guidelines for human research that were
perhaps nowhere more flagrantly ignored than at his own Institute.
Cameron's MK-ULTRA operation conducted what were undoubtedly among
the most appalling of the CIA-funded mind control experiments (those
that are well documented, anyway), utilizing what he euphemistically
termed 'depatterning' and 'psychic driving.'
During the depatterning phase, the objective was to
completely obliterate the existing personality. This was done by
restraining the victims (oops, I meant patients) for weeks on end and
subjecting them to massive doses of drugs and repeated electroshock
treatments. Cameron preferred the Page-Russell electroshock technique
- controversial even among the shock docs of the time - which
employed six consecutive shocks rather than just one big jolt. This
wasn't quite enough for Cameron though, so he cranked up the power to
as much as twenty times the normal strength, and administered the
'treatment' two or three times a day. Concurrently given three times
a day were drug cocktails containing every combination of
incapacitating and mind-altering drug imaginable.
Following some two months of this medical torture, patients
were then subjected to psychic driving, during which they were again
incapacitated by drugs - including curare, a paralyzing agent which
can be lethal - while taped messages were played continuously through
speakers placed in pillows or in helmets the unfortunate victims were
forced to wear. This also went on for weeks on end, with the subjects
remaining drug-addled throughout the process. Cameron experimented
with other techniques as well, including psychosurgery and the
extensive use of LSD; one woman was kept locked in a small box for
thirty-five consecutive days.
In 1960, Cameron was asked by Allen Dulles to evaluate the
mental state of U-2 pilot Francis Gary Powers upon his return from
the Soviet Union. So impressed was Dulles with Cameron's assessment
of Powers that he next had him draft a psychological profile of
Patrice Lumumba - the first Prime Minister of the newly independent
Congo - to determine what the most efficient means of assassinating
him might be.
Premier spymaster William Buckley took the agency's file on
Lumumba to Montreal for Cameron's review; by January of the following
year, Lumumba was dead, his body dissolved in acid after enduring a
month of barbaric torture. As for Buckley, he would later be present
at both the attempted assassination of Pope John Paul and the
successful assassination of Egyptian President Anwar Sadat, whose
security forces he had personally trained.
Working with Cameron on his experiments - some of which are
believed by some researchers to have been terminal - were Leonard
Rubenstein, an Englishman and former member of the British Army's
Royal Signal Corp, and Jan Zielinski, a Polish-born engineer who knew
only limited English and rarely spoke. These two built a 'grid room'
and an isolation chamber in the basement of Allan Memorial and were
given unlimited access to patients, despite the fact that neither had
any formal medical training or qualifications. Also on board was Dr.
Hassam Azima - rumored to be a blood relative of the U.S.-installed
Shah of Iran - and Dr. Wilder Penfield, a prominent neurologist.
Penfield was one of the pioneers in the field of
electromagnetic control of the brain in the 1960's. Most prominent in
this area of research was Dr. Jose M.R. Delgado, who made the front
page of the New York Times when one of his remote-controlled brain
implants stopped a charging bull dead in its tracks. Delgado - who
brought his ideas here from fascist Spain and was heavily funded by
the CIA - was an open advocate of a psychologically controlled
totalitarian society. Probably nowhere can the true nature of
psychology be better discerned than from the words of this Dr.
Strangelove.
In his Orwellian titled book, Physical Control of the Mind:
Toward a Psychocivilized Society, Delgado wrote that "the integration
of neurophysiological and psychological principles [would lead] to a
more intelligent education, starting from the moment of birth and
continuing throughout life, with the preconceived plan of escaping
from the blind forces of chance and of influencing cerebral
mechanisms and mental structure in order to create a future man with
greater personal freedom and originality, a member of a
psychocivilized society, happier, less destructive, and better
balanced than present man."
He supported the mass drugging of America with
"tranquilizers, energizers, and other psychoactive drugs," which he
claimed were "highly beneficial both for patients and for relatively
normal persons who need pharmacological help to cope with the
pressures of civilized life." Lobotomy was proposed as the answer to
crime: "the possibility of surgical rehabilitation of criminals has
been considered by several scientists as more humane, more promising,
and less damaging for the individual than his incarceration for
life."
Delgado also made the rather remarkable observation that: "In
some old plantations slaves behaved very well, worked hard, were
submissive to their masters, and were probably happier than some of
the free blacks in modern ghettos." Ahh, the good old days. Delgado
next noted that: "In several dictatorial countries the general
population is skillful, productive, well behaved, and perhaps as
happy as those in more democratic societies."
Five years after penning his manifesto, Delgado appeared
before the U.S. Congress and proclaimed: "We need a program of
psychosurgery for political control of our society. The purpose is
physical control of the mind. Everyone who deviates from the given
norm can be surgically mutilated ... The individual may think that
the most important reality is his own existence, but this is only his
personal point of view. This lacks historical perspective ... Man
does not have the right to develop his own mind." Such talk earned
Delgado funding from the Office of Naval Research, the Air Force Aero-
Medical Research Laboratory, and the Public Health Foundation of
Boston.

********************
What has been covered here barely scratches the surface of
the lies and omissions that characterized my education in the field
of psychology. There is considerably more that could be said on the
subject. I could mention, for instance, that two of the most widely
referenced psychological studies - Philip Zimbardo's Stanford Prison
experiment and Stanley Milgram's obedience studies - were funded by,
and performed at the request of, U.S. military and intelligence
services.
I could also mention that the National Institute of Mental
Health (NIMH) - created in 1946 by the congressional National Mental
Health Act - was borne of the combined efforts of Robert H. Felix
(head of the military's Division of Mental Hygiene during World War
II), General Lewis Hershey (director of the Selective Service
System), and the chief psychiatrists of the Army and the Navy. In
fact, the Diagnostic and Statistical Manual of Mental Disorders - the
bible of modern psychiatry - was also an invention of the
military/intelligence complex, developed during World War II by
Brigadier General William Menninger to codify 'deviant' behavior, and
later institutionalized by the APA.
And of course I would be remiss were I not to note that the
twin pillars of psychoanalysis, Sigmund Freud and Carl Jung, were
both fascist sympathizers. In 1933 - the year that Adolf Hitler and
the Nazi Party ascended to power - Germany's influential Journal of
Psychotherapy published an article by Dr. M.H. Goering, a cousin of
Hermann Goering, urging psychotherapists to make "a serious
scientific study of Adolf Hitler's fundamental work Mein Kampf, and
to recognize it as a basic work." The editor of the journal openly
calling for the Nazification of psychotherapy was Dr. Carl Gustav
Jung.
Sigmund Freud had close ties to the Reich as well,
particularly to a man named George Viereck - the illegitimate
grandson of the Kaiser who had ties to SS Reichsfuhrer Heinrich
Himmler and was perhaps the most avid supporter of Nazism in America.
Viereck ran an extensive pro-Hitler propaganda operation that
included having a U.S. Senator on his payroll - Ernest Lundeen from
Minnesota - whose hastily scheduled flight out of Washington
following the revelation of his connection to Viereck conveniently
crashed on August 31, 1940, as such flights are prone to do.
In 1926, Viereck interviewed Freud - whom he had known for
many years - on the subject of anti-Semitism, and in 1930 published
that interview in a collection entitled Glimpses of the Great. Freud
would later state that: "I can highly recommend the Gestapo to
everyone." And since wherever Nazis congregate, U.S. intelligence is
never far away, it's not surprising that Freud had impressive
connections to the 'Old Boys' network as well. Particularly close was
William Bullit, who spent several months working with Freud in Vienna
and personally escorted the doctor out of the country.
What then is this thing we call 'psychology'? Put in the
simplest possible terms, it is just another appendage of the national
security infrastructure designed to attain social control and enforce
conformity to the fascist state. It in fact is nearly
indistinguishable from the American criminal justice/penal system.
There is at least one major difference though - the psychiatrist is
allowed to serve as prosecutor, judge and jury in seeking the
involuntary confinement of 'deviants' in mental institutions that are
indiscernible in form and function from America's rapidly growing
prison complex.
The harsh reality is that psychology has little to do with
bettering the human condition and alleviating suffering, and
everything to do with lending legitimacy to the corporate capitalist
state and justifying as individual failings the ever increasing
levels of suffering inflicted by the state onto society. As Frederick
Winslow Taylor - the exalted father of 'scientific management,' an
early euphemism for the deskilling of labor and the reduction of the
American labor force to interchangeable, easily exploited automatons
- so succinctly stated many decades ago: "in the past the man had
been first; in the future the system must be first."
Not long ago, my teenage daughter asked me why it was that so
many people she has met in her life suffer from low self-esteem. Why
indeed? The answer, it turns out, is quite simple: we are all victims
of one of the big lies of American society - the one that says that
if we educate ourselves, work hard, and apply our talents, there is
absolutely nothing we cannot achieve.
We are taught from birth that anyone in this great country can rise
up to the highest strata of society if they so choose, that if we
have the drive and ability, nothing can hold us back. George W. Bush
articulated this very message from the campaign trail recently when
he said: "One of the wonderful things about America is, it doesn't
matter who you are or where you're from. If you work hard, dream big,
the notion of owning your own business applies to everybody."
Conversely, if we should fail we have no one but ourselves to
blame, for we must not be smart enough, talented enough, or educated
enough - or we just didn't try hard enough. The brutal reality though
is that in the real world, the sons of the rich and powerful will
assume their fathers' seats in the boardrooms of America regardless
of their qualifications (George, Jr. being a prime example), while
the most talented of kids from America's 'inner cities' will live and
die without ever seeing the world beyond the confines of their
neighborhoods.
That is the reality for the majority of Americans. And yet we
are encouraged, in fact required, to set goals for ourselves that are
impossible to attain, to buy into the Big Lie. When we inevitably
fail to achieve these goals, which the social structure has
deliberately put out of our reach, we are required to blame only
ourselves. The system has not failed you, you have failed because you
are a fucking loser. You're too fucking lazy to succeed. You're too
fucking stupid to succeed. So stop looking for scapegoats and accept
the fact that you determine your own fate.
That is what the system would have you believe. And it is, in
the final analysis, the psychologist's primary job to reinforce that
message. That is why it is that the nation that heralds itself as the
truest form of 'democracy' is home to more psychiatrists,
psychologists, therapists, counselors, social workers, and psychic
friends than any nation in the world. Not coincidentally, that same
nation is also home to the world's largest penal system. That,
apparently, is the price we pay for 'freedom' in this country, a
peculiar kind of freedom that does not include the right to engage in
any sort of 'deviant' behavior.
Freedom of that type, it seems, could conceivably pose a
threat to the powers that be, lest too many people begin to question
the 'right' of the wealthy and powerful to maintain their positions
at the top of the food chain at the expense of the psychologically
enslaved masses whose labors serve to fatten their investment
portfolios. Better that we remain, in the words of George Orwell, in
a state of "controlled insanity" -- for nothing could pose a greater
threat to the system than a sane population fighting for survival in
an insane world.


People's Commissar

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Del,

I know about at least one experiment with an infant, inducing fear.
Everytime the child picked up something it enjoyed, something that brought a
smile of joy on its tiny face, a loud, terrifying gong would sound off
causing the infant to drop the object and cry. Soon, all objects were
things to be feared. What, these educated imbeciles don't realize that the
burnt child avoids the fire? There is also some horrific documentation in a
book called "Slaughter of the Innocent" by Hans Ruesch. Bantam Books, 1978.
I never finished the book, it was too painful to read.

Just by observing other primates, it should be obvious that infants need to
be held, cuddled, and exposed to a lot of enjoyable stimuli. This shit
makes me cry - it's horrible. The MEN who did it should be shot for hell's
sakes. SHOT. That was a tiny life they had in their care - and they
destroyed it. Why did they do it? Don't give me guff about "well, gov,
well, military, well to find out." That's not the "why" I'm asking. What
was done to THEM as children, that they could do such things to a brand new
life. What kind of THINGS are they, that they could do this? Where was
their human/animal sense of decency? Where was their HUMANITY?

There was a seriously documented expose of the Unibomber and what happened
to him in college. He volunteered to be part of an experiment where they
subjected students to brainwashing techques currently used (at the time) in
Korea. After this happened to him, he dropped out of college and the rest
is history, known. On this I don't have the facts, never noted it down,
but they're out there.

Unfortunately, the entire story trails off into what I'd call paranoid
leaps. You should read BF Skinner (he was a Pavlovian) "Beyond Freedom and
Dignity" and understand what he is actually saying.

TJ

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Victor Le Nettoyeur

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"People's Commissar" <tanija...@myself.com> wrote:

~snip~

>There was a seriously documented expose of the Unibomber and what happened
>to him in college. He volunteered to be part of an experiment where they
>subjected students to brainwashing techques currently used (at the time)
>in
>Korea. After this happened to him, he dropped out of college and the rest
>is history, known. On this I don't have the facts, never noted it down,
>but they're out there.

I heard that version. I also heard a different one that indicated
Kaczynski was the subject of L.S.D. experiments by the CIA. I actually
went looking for some evidence of any of these stories and didn't find
any.

Based upon the lack of corroboration as well as the similar stories
circulating about other notorious people (McVeigh, Manson, etc.) I am
pretty skeptical.

Even so, it would be interesting if something verifiable surfaced. (Even
something as simple as Kaczynski mentioning the study). There may well be
some evidence out there, but I haven't seen it yet.

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Weak and transitory is man. Already is he behind you, and once again you
find yourself in endless space, in the vast expanses of the inmost
infinity...
-Carl Jung


Chris Applegate

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"Delila" <bre...@home.com> wrote in message
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> Following closely in the footsteps of Dr. Watson was B.F.
> Skinner, the other revered figure in the behaviorist school of
> psychology. Skinner - who had received a defense grant during World
> War II to study the training of pigeons for use as part of an early
> missile guidance system (I don't just make this shit up) - invented
> what he termed the 'Air Crib' in 1945, which was essentially a
> sensory deprivation chamber built specifically for infants.
> Like Watson, he used his own child as a human guinea pig,
> raising her in the thermostatically controlled, sound-proof isolation
> chamber for the first two years of her life, cut off from human
> contact. Skinner ultimately followed a bit too closely in the
> footsteps of his mentor; Debby Skinner, like Albert Watson, committed
> suicide in her twenties.

The air crib is not the Skinner box. Deborah Skinner Buzan didn't go
psychotic, commit suicide, or sue her father; neither (so far as I know) did
Skinner's grandchildren, two of whom also spent their nights in an air crib.
See "B.F. Skinner on Improving the World," Washington Post, 11 December
1985. Her husband's homepage, at
http://www.copri.dk/copri/researchers/buzan/bb.htm, doesn't mention anything
about being a widower, so I must assume that she's quite alive.

See also http://www.urbanlegends.com/medical/skinner_box.html

CDA


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In alt.satanism People's Commissar <tanija...@myself.com> wrote:
> Del,

> I know about at least one experiment with an infant, inducing fear.
> Everytime the child picked up something it enjoyed, something that brought a
> smile of joy on its tiny face, a loud, terrifying gong would sound off
> causing the infant to drop the object and cry. Soon, all objects were
> things to be feared. What, these educated imbeciles don't realize that the
> burnt child avoids the fire? There is also some horrific documentation in a
> book called "Slaughter of the Innocent" by Hans Ruesch. Bantam Books, 1978.
> I never finished the book, it was too painful to read.

> Just by observing other primates, it should be obvious that infants need to
> be held, cuddled, and exposed to a lot of enjoyable stimuli. This shit
> makes me cry - it's horrible. The MEN who did it should be shot for hell's
> sakes. SHOT. That was a tiny life they had in their care - and they
> destroyed it. Why did they do it? Don't give me guff about "well, gov,
> well, military, well to find out." That's not the "why" I'm asking. What
> was done to THEM as children, that they could do such things to a brand new
> life. What kind of THINGS are they, that they could do this? Where was
> their human/animal sense of decency? Where was their HUMANITY?

Humanity? Humanity is a myth propegated by a few loud individuals who wish
desparately that humans arent highly territorial and massively reactionary
animals.

> There was a seriously documented expose of the Unibomber and what happened
> to him in college. He volunteered to be part of an experiment where they
> subjected students to brainwashing techques currently used (at the time) in
> Korea. After this happened to him, he dropped out of college and the rest
> is history, known. On this I don't have the facts, never noted it down,
> but they're out there.

> Unfortunately, the entire story trails off into what I'd call paranoid
> leaps. You should read BF Skinner (he was a Pavlovian) "Beyond Freedom and
> Dignity" and understand what he is actually saying.

BF Skinner is actually generally seen in the field of psychology as an
unfortunate pioneer; his theorizing is *generally* sound, his invention
is *generally* unique and useful, but his methods are almost universally
noted as barbaric and unnessesary. I myself noticed quite early on in
my college psychology studies (which spanned undergrad and gradschool)
that BF Skinner was not much more than a footnote in the history of psychology,
and that the theories of the behaviorists who came after him were much
more noteworthy. Researchers in this and related fields to watch carefully
these days include Stanislav Groff, Oliver Sacks, Ralph Metzgar and
Helena Bonny.


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Delila

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People's Commissar wrote:
>
> Del,
>
> I know about at least one experiment with an infant, inducing fear.
> Everytime the child picked up something it enjoyed, something that brought a
> smile of joy on its tiny face, a loud, terrifying gong would sound off
> causing the infant to drop the object and cry. Soon, all objects were
> things to be feared. What, these educated imbeciles don't realize that the
> burnt child avoids the fire? There is also some horrific documentation in a
> book called "Slaughter of the Innocent" by Hans Ruesch. Bantam Books, 1978.
> I never finished the book, it was too painful to read.
>


Years ago, I read part of a book called "When Rabbit Howls" (I think
that's what it was called) and it put me into such a deep depression,
that I couldn't finish it, either. It's about a little girl how was
regularly raped by her stepfather, and developed Multiple Personality
Disorder to deal with this pain.

> Just by observing other primates, it should be obvious that infants need to
> be held, cuddled, and exposed to a lot of enjoyable stimuli. This shit
> makes me cry - it's horrible. The MEN who did it should be shot for hell's
> sakes. SHOT.

I agree. It's obvious, if you'd do something like that, what the end
result will be. They did animal experiments like that, where they
induced pain in the animals every time they tried to eat. Eventually,
the animals didn't eat anymore and starved to death. I could have
predicted a result like that, anybody with a little common sense could.

That was a tiny life they had in their care - and they
> destroyed it. Why did they do it? Don't give me guff about "well, gov,
> well, military, well to find out." That's not the "why" I'm asking. What
> was done to THEM as children, that they could do such things to a brand new
> life. What kind of THINGS are they, that they could do this? Where was
> their human/animal sense of decency? Where was their HUMANITY?
>


I think that's it. They themselves must have been abused/tortured
severely as children to be even able to conceive of something like that.

> There was a seriously documented expose of the Unibomber and what happened
> to him in college. He volunteered to be part of an experiment where they
> subjected students to brainwashing techques currently used (at the time) in
> Korea. After this happened to him, he dropped out of college and the rest
> is history, known. On this I don't have the facts, never noted it down,
> but they're out there.
>


His mother said, that when he was eight months old, he got sick and she
had to put him into the hospital and leave him there for a week, two
weeks? I don't remember how long. Up until that time, he was a happy,
healthy baby, but when she picked him up after he was 'well' again, he
was like a rag doll. Nothing at all like the child she'd dropped off.
Something could have been done to him there.

> Unfortunately, the entire story trails off into what I'd call paranoid
> leaps. You should read BF Skinner (he was a Pavlovian) "Beyond Freedom and
> Dignity" and understand what he is actually saying.
>
>

I liked the part at the end of the article where the author talks about
the 'big lie'. I'll add the book title and author's name to my list of
books to read.

D.

Delila

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Victor Le Nettoyeur wrote:
>
>
>
> I heard that version. I also heard a different one that indicated
> Kaczynski was the subject of L.S.D. experiments by the CIA. I actually
> went looking for some evidence of any of these stories and didn't find
> any.
>
> Based upon the lack of corroboration as well as the similar stories
> circulating about other notorious people (McVeigh, Manson, etc.) I am
> pretty skeptical.
>
> Even so, it would be interesting if something verifiable surfaced. (Even
> something as simple as Kaczynski mentioning the study). There may well be
> some evidence out there, but I haven't seen it yet.
>
>

They're always very good at covering their tracks.


D.

Rev Fredric L. Rice

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Delila <bre...@home.com> wrote:

>Lies My Psychology Professors Taught Me by Dave McGowan

This is your brain on Scientology, folks. Mental heath on one
side, the Scientology cult on the other. Which do you perfeer?

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> Lies My Psychology Professors Taught Me
> by Dave McGowan

Damn shit, way to go. What this country needs is more defectors to truth.

Walter

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Oh, on NPR, one of the teachers that knew about him in that college - and
the experiment - he was talking.

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James R. Rose

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An entry concerning some of the experimentations by psychologists. I
would not discount Skinner's contribution to psychology. Behvioral and
environmental engineering is in our infrastructural design. There were
many contributors over the past century to the development of the
human organism. Here is one:

Ecclesiastes :: The Segregated Fields ::: The psychosamatic theory
has been restated by Hans Selye (1950) in terms of what he calls the
"general adaptation syndrome."Selye pictures the reaction of the
organism(u or me)to stress (any trauma,infectionary invasion,etc.) as
following a regular pattern which consists of three stages.The first
stage is an initial defense response (a homeostatic reaction,an
automatic,more or less reflex of an adjustment nature,e.g., shivering
to cold or perspiring to heat).The initial defense reaction he labels
the "alarm stage," where the organism's adjustment forces are
mobilized following an initial period of underactivity.A second
stage-that of "resistance"-then follows,and finally a stage of
exhaustion,in which the defenses fall apart if they have been
inadequate.While the picture drawn by Selye may be appropriate for
many ailments which beset us,it is generally accepted as a description
of how psychosomatic disorders develope and mature.Some evidence for
this view has been accumulated in observations on rats put into
chronic stress conditions;the Selye view is assumed to apply to all
stress situations if these continue long enough for the several stages
to develope. [From B.K.Bugelski,An Introduction to
Psychology(1973)][see also Liddell(1944) & Brady(1958) in other
entries concerning mind control,voice FM and criminal hypnosis for
artificially created stress and pain and aches-sleep
deprivation-control of muscles and tendons causing aches and pains
chronic fatigue thereof-as drives of goading intimidation]Since we
cannot hope to discuss all possible directions and intensities of
behavior in the context of "control,"let us examine two kinds of
situations that are presumably commonly considered undesirable and
which we might want to control-the patterns of fear and
anger.Experimental studies involving fear have been generally
restricted to animals,where some strong stimulation like shock can be
employed without social difficulties.When rats or dogs learn to
perform an avoidance response in an "anxiety" situation,it is normally
observed that the animals are extremely in the behavior patterns
involved.If dogs are shocked in the presence of some signal like a
buzzer until they jump a hurdle,they will continue jumping the hurdle
after only a few trials until the experimenter gets tired of sounding
the buzzer.In one well known study(Solomon,Kamin,and Wynne,1953),the
experimenters deliberately set about to eliminate the hurdle-jumping
behavior and watched dogs jump and jump until they had cleared the
hurdle 800 times in succession with no sign that they were ever going
to give up. Some experimenters(N.Miller,1948)report similar
persistence with rats in avoidance learning,the rats repeating some
pattern for hundreds of trials,even though they have not been shocked
since trial ten or trial four.Even when the animals are prevented from
jumping by additional barriers or by being punished for jumping,there
is difficulty in eliminating the behavior;and,in the case of
punishment for jumping,the animal has not lost any fears,it has
aquired new ones.It appears that avoidance behavior is extremely
resistant to extinction.This observation has led to the conclusion
that in avoidance behavior there is a source of reinforcement which is
stregthening or maintaining the behavior;and ,if this is the case,the
behavior will get more solidly established with each presentation of
the stimulus than it was before.From our earlier description of
avoidance learning,it appears that once the fear reaction is
aquired,it will continue to occur to the conditioned stimulus for some
time in the absence of the unconditioned stimulus(especially if the
unconditioned stimulus is extremely potent,as in the Solomon et al
study cited above). The ommission of the unconditioned
stimulus,however, can provide an occassion for some response
competative with fear to occur at the time of the occurrence of the
conditioned stimulus,so that counterconditioning can begin and result
in extinction of the fear response.Such counterconditioning,as we
shall see,is the only known basis for the elimination of fears.[one
must remember that we are dealing with criminal hypnosis at a distance
so any variables discussed can readily be multiplied and altered
surepitiously as an artificially created mechanism thereof,to increase
any adverse affects that may be causated]

James

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Robert Brenner

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Could the problem be that she left the child at the hospital. Just the act of
leaving the child could have been enough to cause great trauma to the child. The
hospital wouldn't have had to do anything and the change would happen. Why would
you think the child, no matter how young, wouldn't feel abandoned by its mother
even if it was only for a short while?

Bob Brenner

.

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People's Commissar <tanija...@myself.com> wrote:
> Oh, on NPR, one of the teachers that knew about him in that college - and
> the experiment - he was talking.

Bah, everyone has a story to tell. You should hear what the late kerry thornley had to
say about the guy everyone thinks killed kennedy.

Or what abbie hoffman's kid says about his death.

Delila

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Robert Brenner wrote:
>
> Could the problem be that she left the child at the hospital. Just the act of
> leaving the child could have been enough to cause great trauma to the child. The
> hospital wouldn't have had to do anything and the change would happen. Why would
> you think the child, no matter how young, wouldn't feel abandoned by its mother
> even if it was only for a short while?
>
>


Of course, I have thought about that. And yes, I agree, that in itself
could have caused psychological damage. But back in those days
(1940s/50s) this was the norm. This happened to many other sick
children. The mothers were not allowed to stay with them or even visit
them. And they, as far as I know, came out of it okay.

D.

Robert Brenner

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Remember it is not what happens that causes a problem. It is the emotional response
that causes problems for people. So two people facing the same situation will respond
differently. One may be affected by the incident for life and the other will be
unaffected.

My job, as a hypnotherapist, is to change the response to the initial incident even it
it happened many years ago.

Bob

GUlLLOTlNA

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>I know about at least one experiment with an infant, inducing fear.>>

Ah, the infamous white stuffed-rabbit experiment. Phyl does at least a -little-
reading.

Try absorbing the rest of the text sometime.

>This sh*t makes me cry - it's horrible. The MEN who did it should be shot for
hell's sakes. SHOT. >>

Boo-hoo-hoo....tender mercy from Phyl the Mongo-queen. How touching.

The child grew up to be a happy, healthy, normal adult.

And why on earth would -you- care? After all, the child was ::gasp of sheer
horror:: WHITE!
We all know you hate "White" people.... you should be rejoicing, rather like
you were reveling in the destruction of the Central-Park jogger. She was white,
after all.

One less 'goyim' cluttering the earth, eh?

>That was a tiny life they had in their care - and they destroyed it. Why did
they do it?>>

Bathos! No long term effects to the child. But even had there been, like I said
before, it was a "WHITE!" child and if it got "destroyed," well & good.

Right, Phyl?

>Where was their HUMANITY?>>

Where is yours? This is rich, coming from you!

>There was a seriously documented expose of the Unibomber and what happened to
him in college. >>

::snippity-doo-dah to apocryphal story about the poor, beleagured Unibomber::

Yeah, everyone's got an excuse.
Even -you- have an excuse, Headbump-Lady.

The rest of us sane, rational people grow weary of you crazy-people's excuses.
Tell it to your therapist.

I find your reference to B.F. Skinner quite amusing. You yourself exhibit less
learning ability than the average lab-rat.

If only they made Skinner boxes sized for humans...

In derision:
Lisa,
bona-fide "hate-cult of one" and non-Jew Extraordinaire.

GUlLLOTlNA

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>Could the problem be that she left the child at the hospital. Just the act of
leaving the child could have been enough to cause great trauma to the child.>>

I doubt the child was left -alone- at the hospital for any length of time. SOP
in those type of experiments is that the mother is in another room behind a
1-way mirror, watching the experiment.
Mommy may have been out of the room/the child's sight, but she wasn't far off,
and the child went home with her at the end of the day.

I apologize if this interferes with anyone's Evil Psychologist Conspiracy
theory. If you desire proof of Evil Psychiatrists, why not do a bit of research
into psychologists' treatment of animals? There you'll find -plenty- to keep
you up at night.

L.

Nouser

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Shut the fuck up, you stupid bitch. Can't you see that no one responds to
your stupid shit except us anons?

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