Under Attack
Chief Thracian
minions) for using biological warfare on homosexuals, starting with
HIV, and now this new, highly-contagious (skin-contact) strain of
flesh-eating virus...or MRSA meaning "methicillin-resistant
Staphylococcus aureus".
This is nothing less than anti-gay biological warfare, and the use of
homosexuals as a pool of human Guinea pigs.
Check out the S.F. Chronicle's "gay flesh eating" map (which appeared
on their front page, January 15):
The 94114 zip code (the Castro) is bright red...like a bull's eye.
It's a blatant attack, both psychological and biological to terrorize
and decimate our gay ranks. And they're not too covert about it. What
does this map really suggest? "Gays are code red, same as Islamic
terrorists!"
Can you imagine restaurants, coffeehouses, shops and bars shutting
down, 'cause tourists (and even SF denizens) fear exposure? And
heteros shunning any physical proximity towards gays (forget about
shaking hands)...and gays afraid of each other! See the homophobes
strike back: our very own Kristallnacht. Shops all around the Castro
boarded up, windows smashed, fires lit! Why stop with Gay Mecca's
epicenter? Every queer-centric urban community will suffer extreme
hostility. Boston, Los Angeles, Chicago, D.C., Seattle, Atlanta,
Miami, Philadelphia, et cetera. (Why stop with the United States? No
reason. There goes Amsterdam, Sydney, Guadalajara, Toronto, London,
Cape Town, Paris, Hong Kong, et al. Good thing we're not an
inter-galactic civilization at this juncture!)
Just imagine what the radio shock jocks such as Michael Savage and
Rush Limbaugh will have to say about this! And what about the churches
this Sunday: what hateful poison will they spew from the pulpit, all
across our sorry nation! (Let's not forget the Mosques, no friend
they!) Believe you me, I'll be listening to the radio, scouring the
newspapers and online reports to bring the pieces together into one
Ugly Big Picture! (Before I'm rounded up myself by Neocon Brown Shirts
or, more optimistically, find hidden sanctuary.)
Outspoken queer activists will be very much a target of social
scapegoating, and silenced in one way or another. (Possibly arrested
and tried for treason, unless we can somehow access a sort of Gay
Underground Railroad!) Censorship of all things gay! Verboten to wear
a pink triangle, and anything else deemed homosexual. (There go the
lavender handbags, gentlemen!) Males will fear walking the streets
without a female on their arm. (Poor ladies, how we guys use you, both
straight and gay!)
I don't think I'm being alarmist at all, but this STINKS of an
outright attack upon our community, via media/gov't/medical
manipulation.
Gays THIRTEEN times more likely to catch this virus? A suspicious
number indeed...like they're laughing in our faces, believing there's
nothing we can do about it. Why not twelve or eight or four or fifteen
times as likely? May as well claim we're 666 times as likely! It's
like: they want to be blatant but not that blatant. No, not quite yet,
but once society starts rounding up queers for isolation, Then all
bets will be off, beyond blatant...it will be outright persecution!
Can you say "holocaust?" We gays will very soon be regarded as
dangerous vessels of fatal disease, thus isolated in ghetto-type
concentration camps. San Francisco, Gay Mecca, the epicenter? Don't
they really mean "Bull's eye"? What This Cult is doing, is playing
into majority belief that gays are intrinsically filthy, and it's time
to put the kibosh on our brazen dare to demand equal rights.
Just like when it seemed full steam ahead for our rights in the early
70's, a mysterious virus (and consequent resurgence of homophobic
vitriol) blocked our movement in a halting screech. Now, some 25 years
later (of much struggling and grief borne, I might add) we've won some
gay marriage/partnership rights in various states, and other political
inroads and...whaddya know...ANOTHER even MORE virulent and contagious
virus crashes the party!
AND Al-Qaeda has officially declared a jihad on all gay politicos,
starting with the gay Mayor of Paris.
These are NOT coincidences, Queer Reader. This is a trans-national
sabotage of gays by the global power elite. Holocaust II is on! I'm
just one of the first to see the big picture. I've always been ahead
of the times, labeled "paranoid" by elite types in order to obfuscate
my insightful conclusions, and those of other concerned gay activists
(albeit a handful).
I am full aware that contemporary governments and cults employ
biological weapons in their arsenal of terror. (Gee, isn't that how we
founded our nation, with small-pox blankets gifted to the natives? The
great Amerikan tradition lives on!) And when pushed against the wall
(as homosexuals seem thus threatened), just how do you think some of
us will react, out of desperate crisis?
Why, we'll retaliate. Turning the same biological weapons used upon us
(HIV and MRSA) by our enemies against our enemies. And just who is the
enemy? Anyone who professes the terror and death of non-heteros...duh!
Granted, many of our spineless queer brethren (and sistren) will
obligingly march to their doom...either to biological research centers
for experimentation, or (if already a bare husk of mortality thanks to
medical sabotage) to death camps.
But what about the brave handful of spirited queers who refuse to go
down without a fight? Do you really think some of us will not
retaliate with biological force? Of course, there's always the
ubiquitous gun. But firearms will not invite seduction of our enemies,
where we can get really close to them and infect them with the very
same microbes they gleefully injected into us!
In the wee hours while the enemy is sound asleep and murmuring
contented snorts (after giving him the best fuck in his life), we'll
quietly slip out of bed, put on our latex gloves, and tenderly
administer the invisible agent (in dessicated form, most likely) to
his exposed, livid flesh. Then silently slip away, like the proverbial
thief in the night.
Hearken! I am neither professing such a horrid form of counterattack,
nor intend to carry it out myself. For we'd then be no better than our
enemies, correct? (I could be wrong here, just playing Angel's
Advocate. After all, it was a noble thing for the Allied Resistance to
blow up Nazi trains and their centers of power, don't you agree?) But
I am being honest here, knowing the nature of, er, human nature. For
it is always the case (as history proves time and time again) that a
handful of a severely threatened minority will respond with violent
and terrorist strategies, to their perceived oppressor. For they have
nothing to lose; death is a mere trifle at that point (no more
nuisance than a pimple on one's butt).
Sinqueerly yours,
Zeke Krahlin
--
Steal This Blog!
http://www.gay-bible.org/steal
Ares, God of War
(Chief Thracian) wrote:
>As if AIDS weren't enough! I charge the government (and all associated
>minions) for using biological warfare on homosexuals, starting with
>HIV, and now this new, highly-contagious (skin-contact) strain of
>flesh-eating virus...or MRSA meaning "methicillin-resistant
>Staphylococcus aureus".
Except for one flaw.....aids affects heterosexuals too.
Noinden
priivate> wrote:
> On Wed, 16 Jan 2008 21:46:30 GMT, chief_thracia...@SPAMyahoo.com
Ahh but Zekey baby here would like to wipe them off the face of the
planet (go look at the long history this "gentleman" has with
hetrophobia). He's ammusing like a capering jester when he rants on
the street (I've seen in when in SF) but thats about it.
Chief Thracian
Quoting from the (Jan. 17th issue of the) S.F. Bay Times article
Staph Infections In The Castro Causing Community Uproar
http://www.sfbaytimes.com/?sec=article&article_id=7331
--begin quotes:
Some critics are cynical about the study - especially that it focused
on the Castro and not other areas of the City, such as South of
Market. Others are angry that the notion of gay sex is being hyped as
the cause. According to the Center for Disease Control and Prevention,
the bacteria affect only about one percent of the population, which
has prompted several doctors to propose that fears of the bacteria
might be overblown.
The Human Rights Campaign has stated that this is a case of rightwing
bigots returning to 1980 HIV/AIDS fear-mongering tactics. "We saw this
kind of hysteria in the early 1980's around HIV/AIDS," said HRC
President Joe Solmonese. "I'll be damned if we will sit idly by in
2008 and let them perpetrate that type of anti-gay hysteria again
without calling them out on it." Based on a Jan. 15 story by the
Reuters News Agency about a new strain of staph infection affecting
gay men, the rightwing group, Concerned Women for America, well known
for its bigotry, took the opportunity to promote its anti-gay hatred.
HRC's Solmonese called CWA's statements "lies and distortions."
--end quotes
Moving on to ANOTHER gay rag out of Frisco, The Bay Area Reporter
(B.A.R.), I now quote from article
Data on staph links gays
http://www.ebar.com/news/article.php?sec=news&article=2612
--begin quotes:
Binh An Diep, PhD, a researcher at UCSF and the lead author of the
study, said part of the reason why he conducted the study was to help
empower gay men to take better care of their own health. It was
published online in the Annals of Internal Medicine on January 14.
However, Diep made several statements in a news release that fanned
the flames of homophobia. Anti-gay groups seized on the study, with
one calling gay men a "public health hazard."
Given the hysteria in much of the media coverage of the recent studies
on MRSA, Diep said that he is concerned there will be a possible
backlash against the gay community
--end quotes
What? A RESEARCHER aware that his words were poorly chosen,
nonetheless goes on record as possibly FOMENTING severe backlash
against sexual minorities! Which backlash threatens to spread WAY
beyond "Gay Mecca," spilling over into ALL gay communities in major
urban centers WORLDWIDE...as I have already iterated some paragraphs
above. Now, allow me to provide several MORE quotes from that same
article, to ALLEVIATE the needless (though apparently INTENTIONAL)
angst created out of these irresponsible mouths of "concerned" and
"gay friendly" researchers such as Binh Dipwad:
--begin quotes:
San Francisco physician William Owen told the Bay Area Reporter
Tuesday that he sees little new in the latest study....
Diep found the annual incidence of USA300 infection per 100,000
persons was 275 cases, while the incidence of the MDR variant was 26
cases in all of San Francisco....
The Castro District (Zip code 94114) had the highest percentage (25.7
percent) of male same-sex couples in the United States, and a MDR
USA300 incidence rate per 100,000 of 170 cases. However, the total
number of cases in an individual Zip code is small and so the
statistical confidence interval is large; one should we wary of
drawing too many conclusions from the subset analysis.
'Diep said they saw little difference among HIV-positive patients in
terms of acquisition of MRSA, disease progression, or response to
therapy. However, most of those patients had a CD4 count greater than
200. Significant risks of opportunistic infections often are not seen
until the CD4 count drops below 100, and the number of patients in
that category was too small for meaningful analysis.
--end quotes
Now, about the S.F. Chronicle, which newspaper here in our Unkind
Metropolis, REPORTED this hysterical claptrap with a vivid red MAP of
The Castro to INTIMIDATE and FRIGHTEN the populace...and STIR UP
homophobia and violence against our long-suffering community:
This is not the FIRST time the Chronicle has sold out to the Religious
Reich. On August 16, 1999, they accepted $35,000 to publish a
full-page anti-gay ad, claiming that we sexual minorities can be
cured!
http://www.gay-bible.org/truetales/6_shame1.htm
See my essay "Hetero Shame Week" for more details on THAT shameful
matter.
http://www.gay-bible.org/truetales/6_shame.htm
(Thank your lucky ass-teroids a scant good folks like me keep RECORDS
and pay CLOSE ATTENTION to seemingly unrelated affairs! If I had to
hold down a regular job to survive, instead of collecting a gov't
disabilty stipend, I could NEVER have been so dedicated.)
The only thing GOOD coming out of this Dark Affair, is as a textbook
example of how This Zodiac Cult operates...either "Dieply" hidden or,
in this case, when out in the open, done so with a "Diep" crocodile
smile, a.k.a. "friendly fire". In closing, please take a concise
moment to embed in your juicy cerebrum, the face of Our Newest Enemy,
traitor to our cause:
http://www.gay-bible.org/truetales/Larkin/2008-01-17_H.jpg
1X2Willows
"Chief Thracian" <chief_th...@SPAMyahoo.com> wrote in message
news:47916f36...@amsterdam.newsgroups-download.com...
This is interesting.
odub...@comcast.net
>
> This is interesting.- Hide quoted text -
>
I'd think that any group where immune system deficiencies are greater
would also have a higher susceptibility to opportunistic infections.
Additionally populations that have a greater amount of interaction and
skin contact would also tend to show higher incidences of infection
(like schools and universities, all other things being equal).
Finally, hospitals are breeding grounds and exercise gymnasiums for
such things.
I suspect that we are surrounded by such things all the time but that
a healthy immune system automatically defends against such things. Of
course, in this day and age of incomplete verification of genetically
altered and altering drugs, foods, products and microorganisms, rapid
change and mutation is occurring that potentially could turn
beneficial substances into killers. A higher rate of allergies (as it
seems to me is occurring) would be evidence of such mutations.
Searles
Chief Thracian
<nos...@least.invalid> wrote:
>This is interesting.
Thank you, 1X2Willows! You can read the same piece, but with
illustrations and a NEW part added, which is a letter to the editor I
just e-mailed, excoriating Dr. Diep. Entitled: "Yummy Hetero Flesh".
Remains to be seen yet, whether my letter gets printed. For nonce,
view it here:
http://ezekielk.tblog.com/post/1969971840
BTW, if you find THAT piece interesting, I believe you'll find "Steal
This Blog" captivating.
-Zekester
Chief Thracian
address priivate> wrote:
>Except for one flaw.....aids affects heterosexuals too.
But NOT with the extreme STIGMATIZATION that gays suffer. Hetero AIDS
victims are regarded "innocent" victims, and gays are blamed for
spreading it. Same thing now going on with this new MRSA virus.
It's all social engineering: scapegoating gays to terrorize people. In
hopes starting Holocaust 2...only homosexuals are the main target this
time around.
Got any more "intelligent" observations to make, o God of Wart?
Chief Thracian
wrote:
>Ahh but Zekey baby here would like to wipe them off the face of the
>planet
That's a GROSS exaggeration of my position, you homophobic bum. I only
desire HOMOPHOBES wiped off the face of this planet. NOT truly
gay-friendly heteros.
'Cause HOMOPHOBES are also women-rapers, child abusers, racists, and
overall, a POX upon humanity. If you're not sure just WHO I'm talking
about, go look in a mirror.
>(go look at the long history this "gentleman" has with
>hetrophobia).
Oh, barfolicious! Accusing a gay person of heterophobia is like
accusing a Jew of Naziphobia. It's hateful jerkwads like you, who
inspire me to compose pieces like:
Hetero Shame Week
http://www.gay-bible.org/truetales/6_shame.htm
>He's ammusing like a capering jester when he rants on
>the street (I've seen in when in SF) but thats about it.
FYI, I can't do my skits on the streets of the Castro any more,
because of the rampant HOMOPHOBIA among so many homeless. And the cops
do NOTHING to make gays feel safe in our own neighborhoods. San
Francisco is no Gay Mecca...they sold us down the river. That's why we
are going to have a civil war, with gays coming out ON TOP.
Thanks for the free advertising, you hetero goofball, you!
Chief Thracian
LETTER TO THE EDITOR (Bay Area Reporter and S.F. Bay Times)
Date: January 19, 2008
Subject: Yummy Hetero Flesh
Dear Editor:
Check out this "gay flesh-eating" map (front page, S.F. Chronicle,
Jan. 15):
The 94114 zip code (Eureka Valley a.k.a. The Castro) is bright
red...like a bull's eye. It's a blatant attack, both psychological and
biological, to terrorize and decimate our gay ranks. And they're not
too covert about it. What does this map really suggest? Gays are CODE
RED, same as Islamic terrorists! (This isn't just a flesh-eating
virus: it's a GAY flesh-eating virus...and a most virulent one at
that! We're not just baby eaters any more. Yay!)
Quoting a recent article regarding this new variant of the MRSA virus
(Bay Area Reporter, Jan. 17):
"Diep made several statements in a news release that fanned the flames
of homophobia. Anti-gay groups seized on the study, with one calling
gay men a public health hazard."
What? A UCSF researcher, Dr. Binh An Diep, aware that his words were
poorly chosen, nonetheless goes on record as possibly fomenting severe
backlash against sexual minorities! Which backlash threatens to spread
way beyond "Gay Mecca," spilling over into all gay communities in
major urban centers worldwide.
I fully agree with one pro-gay organization's position, as reported in
the S.F. Bay Times article dated Jan. 17:
"The Human Rights Campaign has stated that this is a case of rightwing
bigots returning to 1980 HIV/AIDS fear-mongering tactics."
But it is not enough to point our fingers at those fundamentalist and
right-wing groups jumping all over these skewed statistics. We must
also roundly condemn those people originally responsible for
broadcasting such homophobic tripe, who hold important positions in
the medical field, claiming to be friends of the LGBT community.
Starting with Dr. Diep, who heads this particular MRSA project.
Just who are you, Dr. Binh "Dipwad"? A pious Christian infiltrating
our queer community in order to poison us with a new infection, to
foment further anti-queer backlash? Or perhaps you're a gay man
yourself, whose desire for world fame (along with that of your
associates) far outweighs any true desire to honor the Hippocratic
Oath? You would not be the first opportunist to piggy-back onto our
long-suffering community for your own vainglory, no matter what damage
wrought upon those groups you claim to heal!
Quoting again from the same B.A. R. article:
"Given the hysteria in much of the media coverage of the recent
studies on MRSA, Diep said that he is concerned there will be a
possible backlash against the gay community."
Dr. Dipwad, put this in your syringe and sit on it: We queers can do
without your perverted sort of "concern". As the saying goes: "With
friends like you, who needs enemies?" I hope you lose your job and
find yourself begging in the streets. Or at best: slinging hash in the
Tenderloin.
As for the S.F. Chronicle:
This is not the first time the Chronicle has sold out to the Religious
Reich. On August 16, 1998, they accepted $35,000 to publish a
full-page anti-gay ad, claiming that we sexual minorities can be
cured! You can view that horrid ad, as well as read outraged responses
(and the Chronicle's own, smug defense) here:
This medical scandal of homophobic and media intrigue causes me to
question:
Is S.F. General in cahoots with the UCSF med center, to use gay people
as Guinea pigs for their medical experiments? And since the vast
majority of MRSA infections remain a hospital-borne plague, just WHO
should we fear more: homosexuals or hetero-run hospitals?
Chief Thracian
>I'd think that any group where immune system deficiencies are greater
>would also have a higher susceptibility to opportunistic infections.
Of course. But we now live in a society that is a Death Cult, and
profits need to increase via more illness and death. I don't care how
healthy you are, your life is in danger by the medical profession. And
gays are the target for biological experimentation. There is a whole
CONSPIRACY going on here. What you say is quite true, albeit just the
tip of the proverbial iceberg!
>Additionally populations that have a greater amount of interaction and
>skin contact would also tend to show higher incidences of infection
>(like schools and universities, all other things being equal).
But you can't tell me that homosexuals have a greater propensity for
skin contact than heteros. Else why the continued populatiry of
straight whorehouses, sex clubs and strip joints?
>Finally, hospitals are breeding grounds and exercise gymnasiums for
>such things.
Indeed! All it takes is for Amerikan Nazi scientists to culture
dangerous microbes and SPREAD them through the populace in the most
vulnerable locations, such as those you just listed. And SCAPEGOAT a
particular group that is ALREADY despised.
Let's see, who could that be? A queer query indeed.
>I suspect that we are surrounded by such things all the time but that
>a healthy immune system automatically defends against such things.
WHO can have a healthy immune system in a most STRESSFUL world, where
we are INUNDATED by toxins from everywhere: the water, air, food,
noise, frightening news, war, etc.? You can only do SO MUCH to give
yourself the greatest advantage. But even if you're a
mult-billionaire, you're still breathing the same air and walking the
same planet.
>Of
>course, in this day and age of incomplete verification of genetically
>altered and altering drugs, foods, products and microorganisms, rapid
>change and mutation is occurring that potentially could turn
>beneficial substances into killers.
Oh, I jumped the gun...didn't read your next paragraph before
responding to the one above. Very good.
>A higher rate of allergies (as it
>seems to me is occurring) would be evidence of such mutations.
EXACTLY what's going on.
Thanks for your worthy input.
Seamus
wrote:
> >Ahh but Zekey baby here would like to wipe them off the face of the
> >planet
>
> That's a GROSS exaggeration of my position, you homophobic bum.
Right, 'cause anyone who disagrees with you is automatically a
homophobe, right?
Seamus
wrote:
Your personal angst is getting in the way of your cause.
1X2Willows
You're welcome.
Can't say I've been an avid and supporting reader of your posts in the
past. They're usually a bit extreme, militant gay, borderline hysterical
for my straight as an arrow taste. For example, I don't see any need
for dualist designations such as Gay Pride or Hetero Shame. Being
a friend of the multitudes of gray between white and black myself,
I'd prefer slogans like "Sexual Tolerance" uniting the two.
However, I do agree with you on several points in this case.
First, this statistic in the article you quote, no doubt about it, must be
one of the most sensational pieces of junk science I've ever seen.
I mean... where and how are the missing numbers represented?
What's with 1-13 cases per 100'000? 22-34? 49? 57-169?
Who got paid to deliver such utterly unscientific garbage and by whom?
Who owns the SF Chronicle these days anyway?
Questions questions questions...
Second, I don't know but please enlighten me. Are there even 100'000
people living in the Castro district? Of course, that red number 170
(!!!ALERT-ALERT!!!) looks very scary to the common observer but that
might as well have beeen the desired goal. If there were only 50'000,
that would push the number of real cases down to two digits and so on.
Not so blatantly impressive anymore. In effect, that number means 0,17 %
which sounds, compared to other percentages of 'normal' civilatory ailments,
rather unspectacular. Is someone trying to create a media hype?
Sure looks like it.
Then we have the current political climate and its obvious slide to the
right, where promoted "ideal" values and lifestyles are concerned.
When HIV went off under the 68 generation and their kids like an IED
under a Humvee in Tikrit, it effectively dealt a death blow to the sexual
revolution and returned the following generations to a state of puritanism
and fear as it ever was before. At the time, I was very interested in the
reasons behind the HIV epidemic but never got a satisfying answer.
By now, no one asks anymore because everyone is occupied enough
with prevention, keeping it under control and the hunt for a cure.
There's a method to the madness IMO.
But... where did it really come from anyway?
Personally, I always like a good conspiracy theory (emphasis on "good" ;)
yet all the creative answers I've seen in three decades still stink to the
high heavens, which almost leaves only a deliberate plant as an acceptable
reason which would make sense.
So now, you're informing us of this brand new outbreak of something
entirely different but once again, never existed before. I don't only find
that highly interesting as outlined above but I'll say this reeks indeed.
In any case, good luck and good health to you and all your loved ones.
Dan
Chief Thracian
<midwi...@hotmail.co.uk> wrote:
>Not once - not ONCE - have I heard
>anyone, media or not, suggest that the spread of MRSA is anything at all
>to do with sexuality.
Bollocks. I just REFERENCED a news source that is precisely
stigmatizing gay people for spreading MSRS: The SF Chronicle, and a
USCF medical research team.
There are also OODLES of non-religious news reports stigmatizing gays
in like manner.
>As far as I can see, the only person attempting to scapegoat gays in
>connection with MRSA is you.
Liar. Homophobe.
Chief Thracian
<nos...@least.invalid> wrote:
>Can't say I've been an avid and supporting reader of your posts in the
>past. They're usually a bit extreme, militant gay, borderline hysterical
>for my straight as an arrow taste.
They only SEEM that way, because I am ahead of the times. As anti-gay
witch hunts take off, you'll remember my vociferous declarations and
say to yourself:
"My god, the little fucker was right all along!"
For I INTENTIONALLY wrote my pieces to stick in the memory of ANYONE
who reads 'em. It is my INVESTMENT for a future time, to PROVE to as
many as possibly, my totally ACCURATE gift of prophecy.
Just be clear on one thing above all others: I come out of the PAGAN
tradition, NOT Xian.
The PRICE Goddess ask me to pay for such outspoken claims, was
humiliation...which included people perceiving me as a ditzy, paranoic
faggot. Let me tell you this: my calling is far from easy!
>For example, I don't see any need
>for dualist designations such as Gay Pride or Hetero Shame.
I do! We need to UNDERLINE the absolute heinousness of heterosexism,
which is NOT being done at all via our conventional "pride"
celebrations...all of which have been sold out to HETERO-dominated
commercialism.
>Being
>a friend of the multitudes of gray between white and black myself,
>I'd prefer slogans like "Sexual Tolerance" uniting the two.
How horridly bland. Mush. Oatmeal. Pap. Farina.
>However, I do agree with you on several points in this case.
Yes, let's get back on track here! :b
>First, this statistic in the article you quote, no doubt about it, must be
>one of the most sensational pieces of junk science I've ever seen.
THANK YOU.
>Who got paid to deliver such utterly unscientific garbage and by whom?
>Who owns the SF Chronicle these days anyway?
Don't limit your outrage to the media. It is OBVIOUSLY a ploy of the
medical profession, too. S.F. General Hospital AND the UCSF medical
researchers.
>Is someone trying to create a media hype?
>Sure looks like it.
THANK YOU. But "media type" is too general a term, too gentle. This is
an outright ATTACK upon gay people, intended to foment a holocaust.
There are some very intelligent and clever types behind all this. They
are DANGEROUS...and intend to get as many heteros to bash gays as
possible.
>Then we have the current political climate and its obvious slide to the
>right, where promoted "ideal" values and lifestyles are concerned.
It's been "current" since the Democrats went centrist, and Bush
shortly after that, usurped the throne.
>By now, no one asks anymore because everyone is occupied enough
>with prevention, keeping it under control and the hunt for a cure.
Fortunately, some us CONTINUE to question. We are like pitbulls with
our jaws clamped on the legs and arms of our enemies. WE WON'T LET GO
until we have the REAL answers!
Because if we don't get the truth outta them, gays will be in an even
WORSE situation. Which is PRECISELY what is threatening to occur via
this MRSA intrigue...thanks in no small part to the fact that MOST
have stopped questioning the reality of how HIV was first spread among
homosexuals.
But some of us have STRONG suspicions, and have been working
DILIGENTLY to gather more and more evidence.
>There's a method to the madness IMO.
The madness of a death cult: Disciples of the Zodiac Killer. How
they've matured over the decades, and infiltrated many levels and
aspects of society, is all revealed in my book, Friendly Ghost
Detective Agency. I don't get into the details of this cult until
Chapter 6 ("Letters German"). But I've written each chapter to stand
alone w/o any loss of understanding or enjoyment to the rest of my
non-fiction opus.
The book's online version will ALWAYS remain free, no strings
attached, to emphasize the veracity of my work...that I'm not out for
the money so much as to blow the whistle against a very evil force
that threatens the well being of our entire nation AND the world.
So here are a few sub-chapters of Part 6, that will introduce you to
this horrid cult, and how they got started, and how they operate:
I Don't Trust Roman, Here's Why
http://www.gay-bible.org/truetales/Larkin/FG_06-C.htm
First Letter
http://www.gay-bible.org/truetales/Larkin/FG_06-F.htm
There's a Succubus Born Every Minute
http://www.gay-bible.org/truetales/Larkin/FG_06-H.htm
Lord of the Drug Rings
http://www.gay-bible.org/truetales/Larkin/FG_06-M.htm
Disbelief: the Weakest Link
http://www.gay-bible.org/truetales/Larkin/FG_06-R.htm
And of course, what I've most recently posted to newsgroups:
Under Attack
http://www.gay-bible.org/truetales/Larkin/FG_06-T.htm
>So now, you're informing us of this brand new outbreak of something
>entirely different but once again, never existed before. I don't only find
>that highly interesting as outlined above but I'll say this reeks indeed.
>
>In any case, good luck and good health to you and all your loved ones.
THANK YOU! It THRILLS me to hear one's appreciation for my good works,
BY one who previously did not GRASP my attempts to alert people, as
well as spare my gay brothers further persecution.
Seamus
wrote:
> On Sun, 20 Jan 2008 09:33:22 -0600, Midwinter
>
> >Not once - not ONCE - have I heard
> >anyone, media or not, suggest that the spread of MRSA is anything at all
> >to do with sexuality.
>
> Bollocks. I just REFERENCED a news source that is precisely
> stigmatizing gay people for spreading MSRS: The SF Chronicle, and a
> USCF medical research team.
Actually, Midwinter is spot-on.
> There are also OODLES of non-religious news reports stigmatizing gays
> in like manner.
So? Anyone with a brain will ignore these reports.
> >As far as I can see, the only person attempting to scapegoat gays in
> >connection with MRSA is you.
>
> Liar. Homophobe.
You're a staplehead. Get the fuck over yourself.
Jack Slutmuffin
malice, ignorance, and a desire for power OVER pleasure, or even worse
power AS pleasure. It's absolutely true the medical community
increasingly is driven by bottom lines and the insatiable greedy need
for more profits, ALL people not of the Ruling Elite are targeted,
though not simultaneously for dispossession and very likely
processing.
I have had disturbing previsions of this outbreak being the beginning
of even larger plague, ala V for Vendetta, and one of the elements
leading to what seems to be an inevitable "civil" conflict this nation
is fast approaching. As a gay mutant myself, I know that I'm targetted
for more than one reason, which is why I am personally seeking to
cultivate every possible weapon at my dispossal, a beserker seidhr:
BELIEVE. I attempt to stregnthen my body, mind, senses; taking up
contracts with entities that can tilt luck and prosperity my way,
while working on building communication/persuasion skills, inculcating
a special kind of fear in my enemies, and slowly building a gang up of
defenders.
Things are going to get much much worse, I don't want to mince words
about it, nuclear war would at least be like euthenasia compared to
whats coming down the time pipeline. People are killing themselves and
their kids, murderous rampages, new new deadly diseases (what makes it
worse is as many of them are DESIGNED as have "naturally" adapted to a
medical treatements so as to become aeonicidal agents). The whole
human race is at stake.
Sexual freedoms are always attacked. They pose a direct and primal
threat to the system of stress TOWARDS consumption. Our whole earth is
suffering from a form of AIDS, and our species is being manipulated by
bad programming as a viral and bacteriological agent of self-
Holocaust. Why? I don't know, and what I do know I probably shouldn't
say cause theres not an aweful lot you can do about it except STAY
ALIVE, GET STRONGER, BUILD YOU OWN KIND OF FAMILIES/SUPPORT NETWORKS,
FIND FRIENDS IN HIGH PLACES (and I don't necessarily mean humans
either), DEVELOP YOUR TALENTS. Militance is healthy to a degree, but
move too far too fast and thats exactly what the enemy wants. Sun Tzu:
Make your enemies move to your beat, not vice versa (paraphrased o'
course)
MSRA is very likely going to make a jump across the barrier very soon,
I'm suprised it hasn't done so already, and if they do start spreading
it to other queer communities then perhaps a secretive backlash would
be in order. Qiyamash: DECEPTION, act straight, go into wholesome,
nice clean aryan xtian communities and do the ol' poi-sun da waata
sup=pli deal, if they do it strike back, but don't get caught:
Disclaimer the last parygwaph was just fur entertainment purposes. I
don't avow violence, except in cases of self-defense as supported by
the LAW OF THE LAND. /Jungle.
Study medicine, chinese, allopathic, homeopathic, or make sure you
know someone who does, don't rely on the Amerikan Medeadical
Deathstablisment alone. Be smart, savvy, instinctual, and trust your
body's innate intelligence over your ego's sometimes unreliable
promptings.
The Horned Gods entwined would desire nothing less from their zealous
warrior-lovers, nothing less
Cordially yours,
Jack Slutmuffin: Sorceror, Dervish, Time Splicer, Heretic, Conjuror,
Potentate of the Pudenda, Shaman, Metaprimate
Dr. Haha Lungs book ASSASSIN and Zeek's The Art of Shen Ku as well as
Hakim Bey's articles on the tongs www.hermetic.com can be very very
helpful
Noon-Air
"Seamus" <fomori...@gmail.com> wrote in message
news:72980e25-306d-4dbc...@e25g2000prg.googlegroups.com...
Maybe you guys should get a room??
Jack Slutmuffin
> chief_thracia...@SPAMyahoo.com (Chief Thracian) said :
>
> >>Not once - not ONCE - have I heard
> >>anyone, media or not, suggest that the spread of MRSA is anything at
> >>all to do with sexuality.
>
> > Bollocks. I just REFERENCED a news source that is precisely
> > stigmatizing gay people for spreading MSRS: The SF Chronicle, and a
> > USCF medical research team.
>
> heard anyone suggest that the spread of MRSA is anything at all to do
> with sexuality.
>
> Well, anyone until you, that is.
>
> Now, let's actually read that source, shall we? See what it says?
>
> "A new variety of staph bacteria ... is spreading among gay men in San
> Francisco"
>
> Is this an attack on gay men, or is it a report stating a fact? You
> obviously *want* it to be an attack on gay men so you can do ostentious
> indignation. But to do that, you'll have to find a way to disprove, or
> at least cast serious doubt on, the statement. If the statement is
> factual, then you will have to work very hard indeed in order to turn it
> into anti-gay propaganda. Bacteria don't care whether we're gay or
> straight, as a rule: if they can find a way in, they'll get in.
>
> "The culprit is a form of MRSA ... circulating outside medical settings,
> afflicting anyone from injection-drug users to elementary school
> students."
>
> So quite clear, then, that it affects a wide range of people. Far from
> the implication you've made that the article is targeting gay men.
>
> "The study estimated that 200 cases of this highly drug-resistant
> variant are turning up in San Francisco each year, mostly among gay
> men."
>
> Here we've got the statement that gets closest to the claims you made -
> and it's still not terribly convincing: again, you need to provide some
> substantial reason (discounting your hypersensitivity) to believe that
> they are false or misrepresented.
>
> "Chambers stressed that some people, no matter how fastidious, could be
> more prone than others to staph infections. They could have unknown
> genetic traits or a history of antibiotic use that raises the risk."
>
> Again, we have a statement with regard to the risk factors that makes it
> clear that *anyone* could potentially be at risk.
>
> > There are also OODLES of non-religious news reports stigmatizing gays
> > in like manner.
>
> I don't think I mentioned it, did I? Is this a religious issue for you,
> then?
>
> >>As far as I can see, the only person attempting to scapegoat gays in
> >>connection with MRSA is you.
>
> > Liar. Homophobe.
>
> fact remains that you're the first person I've ever seen make an
> association between MRSA and sexuality. Even the article you've cited
> doesn't make any claims that gay men are to blame, or are the sole hosts
> of this infection. All it says is that certain activities common
> amongst gay men can increase the risk of infection.
>
> There is a choice to be made: if it is the case that a certain type of
> activity increases the risk of infection, should the medical services
> withhold that information for fear that *you* might choose to be
> offended by it? Or should the information be released and the public
> allowed to make informed decisions and take the relevant precautions to
> reduce their risk of infection? Should your hair-trigger sensibilities
> take precedence over the possible benefits of accurate health
> information?
In the minds of many amerikans it doesn't matter whether or not
anybody implied it at all. Just hearing it under the terms of 'higher-
rate by this much' is enough to make a lot of really stupid people
think even more idiotic thoughts than they did a few moments before.
Can it be helped? Probably not, a wiser man than me once said that
most conspiracies are just accidents forcing more accidents until it's
such a mess no one could even believe such a monstrosity could be
caused by an accident. Never underestimate the ignorance of the
misinformed.
Noon-Air
"Jack Slutmuffin" <zevill...@yahoo.com> wrote in message
news:bcaadbe9-86bf-413c...@i7g2000prf.googlegroups.com...
Never underestimate the power of stoopid people in large groups either.
Jack Slutmuffin
> "Jack Slutmuffin" <zevillkaa...@yahoo.com> wrote in message
>
> - Show quoted text -
Touche'
Chief Thracian
<fomori...@gmail.com> wrote:
>Right, 'cause anyone who disagrees with you is automatically a
>homophobe, right?
I don't know where you get THAT idea from. Except that OBVIOUSLY
homophobes will do everything they can to obfuscate my statements, and
make me look like an absolute fool. So of COURSE they'll disagree with
me...or at least, attempt to demonize me with statements like;
"Right, 'cause anyone who disagrees with you is automatically a
homophobe, right?"
And then, OBVIOUSLY, other homophobes will piggy-back upon such false
accusations, because they are bullies, and LOVE to gang up on outspoke
queers.
It's a Nazi-style tactic, by repeating the lie over and over again,
some decent gays will get worn out and discouraged...and give up.
You want ME to give up, don't you?
Chief Thracian
<zevill...@yahoo.com> wrote:
>In the minds of many amerikans it doesn't matter whether or not
>anybody implied it at all. Just hearing it under the terms of 'higher-
>rate by this much' is enough to make a lot of really stupid people
>think even more idiotic thoughts than they did a few moments before.
>Can it be helped? Probably not, a wiser man than me once said that
>most conspiracies are just accidents forcing more accidents until it's
>such a mess no one could even believe such a monstrosity could be
>caused by an accident. Never underestimate the ignorance of the
>misinformed.
Very well said, Jack...only let me add one more aspect to your astute
conclusion:
Those in power can MANIPULATE this tendency for accidents to snowball
into conspiracy, by tossing in their OWN snowballs at strategic
moments and places. There ARE real conspiracies that occur withOUT
accidental mishaps. But the power elite can TAKE ADVANTAGE of this
tendency for paranoia and gossip to spin out of control, in a society
composed MOSTLY of hysterical knuckleheads. MOST of whom are ALSO
extremely hateful against homosexuals. (And some homos are ALSO
knuckleheads, thus become TURNCOATS to their own cause for gay
liberation.)
Chief Thracian
<midwi...@hotmail.co.uk> wrote:
>So quite clear, then, that it affects a wide range of people. Far from
>the implication you've made that the article is targeting gay men.
Nope, you are twisting the article's stigmatizing of gays. If you
don't get that from the article, then you are a goon and a deceiver.
I mean, really: a MAP of San Francisco showing The Castro all lit up
in bright red, as the EPICENTER of MRSA, then EQUATING that to gay
people. Intentionally SKEWED statistics to stigmatize gay people.
YOU know what you are doing: you are PURPOSELY thwarting my clear
explanation of the LIES stated in these MRSA articles.
Chief Thracian
<fomori...@gmail.com> wrote:
>You're a staplehead. Get the fuck over yourself.
I don't care WHAT anyone calls me. I speak the unadulterated TRUTH.
Get over YOUR homophobia. Any straight person (or bisexual) who
INSISTS on being the last word re. gay rights is a SABOTEUR.
Chief Thracian
<fomori...@gmail.com> wrote:
>Your personal angst is getting in the way of your cause.
You WISH.
Actually, my personal angst MOTIVATES my cause, and INSPIRES my
writing and other aspects of my activism.
I am FINELY TUNED to My Great Cause. YOU, poor breeder sucker, are
simply JEALOUS.
Chief Thracian
wrote:
>Maybe you guys should get a room??
Seamus and Midwinter. :D
Seamus
ranted:
> >Your personal angst is getting in the way of your cause.
>
> You WISH.
Observation, sir.
> Actually, my personal angst MOTIVATES my cause, and INSPIRES my
> writing and other aspects of my activism.
Nope. It actually makes you sound like a raving paranoid tinfoil-clad
nutter.
> I am FINELY TUNED to My Great Cause. YOU, poor breeder sucker, are
> simply JEALOUS.
Hardly. I'm not jealous of conspiracy theorists.
I'm not - believe me when I say this - NOT criticizing you based on
your sexual orientation. I'm criticizing you based on the fact that
any time someone disagree with you, even on the slightest basis, you
immediately play the G card.
Try prying the staples out of your wrist. Then people might take you
seriously.
Seamus
> Any idea why I can't see your posts? I can see posts from 'Chief
> Thracian' (for what they're worth so far), but only his replies to you.
>
> (My email's actually real, incidentally, if you've a moment.)
Noted and responded. :)
sarchasm
> (Chief Thracian) said :
>
> > I don't care WHAT anyone calls me. I speak the unadulterated TRUTH.
> > Get over YOUR homophobia. Any straight person (or bisexual) who
> > INSISTS on being the last word re. gay rights is a SABOTEUR.
>
> sexuality? Could it be your preconceptions and prejudices?
The OP is a militant for his cause; relying on his own knee-jerk reactions
while using the sweeping generalities of falicious premise to accuse others
of nonexistant knee-jerk reaction. That's so uncommon on usenet - you're
shocked and aghast too, aren't ya?
sarchasm
> Seamus <fomori...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> >Right, 'cause anyone who disagrees with you is automatically a
> >homophobe, right?
>
> I don't know where you get THAT idea from.
Probably from you:
"Chief Thracian" <chief_th...@SPAMyahoo.com> wrote in message
news:4792db2d...@amsterdam.newsgroups-download.com...
"That's a GROSS exaggeration of my position, you homophobic bum."
Seamus
wrote:
> On Sun, 20 Jan 2008 11:30:31 -0800 (PST), Seamus
>
> >You're a staplehead. Get the fuck over yourself.
>
> I don't care WHAT anyone calls me.
Your actions and knee-jerk accusations say otherwise.
> I speak the unadulterated TRUTH.
Insofar as your deluded, vindicative mind sees it.
> Get over YOUR homophobia. Any straight person (or bisexual) who
> INSISTS on being the last word re. gay rights is a SABOTEUR.
Personally, I have no problem with gay rights.
"You hate me because I'm [$minority]! You're a [$bias]-ist!" "No. I'm
annoyed with you because you're being an asshole. The fact that you
happen to be [$minority] has no bearing on that whatsoever."
sarchasm
> > >You're a staplehead. Get the fuck over yourself.
> >
> > I don't care WHAT anyone calls me.
>
> Your actions and knee-jerk accusations say otherwise.
>
> > I speak the unadulterated TRUTH.
>
> Insofar as your deluded, vindicative mind sees it.
>
> > Get over YOUR homophobia. Any straight person (or bisexual) who
> > INSISTS on being the last word re. gay rights is a SABOTEUR.
>
> Personally, I have no problem with gay rights.
>
> "You hate me because I'm [$minority]! You're a [$bias]-ist!" "No. I'm
> annoyed with you because you're being an asshole. The fact that you
> happen to be [$minority] has no bearing on that whatsoever."
Which just goes to show that being an asshole knows no preference-boundries.
Congrats to CT for demonstrating such equality with other
militant-fundies-on-a mission-lacking-basic-logic. You've shown most
adaquately that gays can be as stupid as straights. Rock on, man! (or
whatever).
odub...@comcast.net
> "You hate me because I'm [$minority]! You're a [$bias]-ist!" "No. I'm
> annoyed with you because you're being an asshole. The fact that you
> happen to be [$minority] has no bearing on that whatsoever."
Now all we have to do is declare the varibles and execute the script.
Enterprising eejits will develop an entire class for such things so
that they can inherit their ideas from it while maintaining the same
structure in their responses. Some will request a break while others
will keep the for and never see then. The key to getting anywhere will
remain a diamond on a chart rather than a decison in a box.
This is a Perl if ever I saw one.
Searles
sarchasm
> "sarchasm" <sar....@yahoo.com> said :
>
> > That's so uncommon on usenet - you're
> > shocked and aghast too, aren't ya?
>
As it should be. What's next, clubbing gay baby seals?
the_virt...@yahoo.com
priivate> wrote:
> On Wed, 16 Jan 2008 21:46:30 GMT, chief_thracia...@SPAMyahoo.com
>
> (Chief Thracian) wrote:
> >As if AIDS weren't enough! I charge the government (and all associated
> >minions) for using biological warfare on homosexuals, starting with
> >HIV, and now this new, highly-contagious (skin-contact) strain of
> >flesh-eating virus...or MRSA meaning "methicillin-resistant
> >Staphylococcus aureus".
>
> Except for one flaw.....aids affects heterosexuals too.
Actually, I live in SF, and most of the patients who get this are not
gay. It's been in the IV drug users for some time, has spread in gyms
and locker rooms in high schools, NOT in the drama departments in high
schools .. .
the_virt...@yahoo.com
> On Jan 18, 11:16 pm, "1X2Willows" <nos...@least.invalid> wrote:
>
>
>
> > This is interesting.- Hide quoted text -
> I'd think that any group where immune system deficiencies are greater
> would also have a higher susceptibility to opportunistic infections.
BINGO. This is very true of TB infections as well. Gays are more
"hooked up" with medical care and are more likelty to report
infections. This bug first manifested in IV drug users, but not many
people outside the ER cared very much. Now it's spreading to people
more "useful" and thus, the hysteria begins.
> Additionally populations that have a greater amount of interaction and
> skin contact would also tend to show higher incidences of infection
> (like schools and universities, all other things being equal).
> Finally, hospitals are breeding grounds and exercise gymnasiums for
> such things.
>
> I suspect that we are surrounded by such things all the time but that
> a healthy immune system automatically defends against such things. Of
> course, in this day and age of incomplete verification of genetically
> altered and altering drugs, foods, products and microorganisms, rapid
> change and mutation is occurring that potentially could turn
> beneficial substances into killers. A higher rate of allergies (as it
> seems to me is occurring) would be evidence of such mutations.
>
> Searles
1X2Willows
<the_virt...@yahoo.com> wrote in message
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~~~~~~~~~~~~
Now when you say "this" as in "who get this", do you mean AIDS or MRSA?
Dan
Jack Slutmuffin
wrote:
> On Sun, 20 Jan 2008 19:51:24 -0800 (PST), Jack Slutmuffin
>
So sadly true.
Chief Thracian
<midwi...@hotmail.co.uk> wrote:
>I'm sure he's lovely - but he's not my type.
Which is...under a rock.
Chief Thracian
<midwi...@hotmail.co.uk> wrote:
>And on what basis do you make ANY judgements about other posters'
>sexuality? Could it be your preconceptions and prejudices?
I can smell breeder meat a mile away.
Comes with the gaydar...a survival mechanism that evolves out of a
society which terrorizes homosexuals as a built-in norm. One becomes
more psychically attuned, when survival is at stake.
I also conclude that also explains the ultimate succees of our allied
forces against the Nazis. We developed the psychic edge, so to speak.
Chief Thracian
wrote:
>The OP is a militant for his cause; relying on his own knee-jerk reactions
>while using the sweeping generalities of falicious premise to accuse others
>of nonexistant knee-jerk reaction.
The ONLY fallacious premise going on here, is the notion that any gay
person who speaks in outrage is paranoid, not observing with a clear
vision.
You MIGHT consider that what YOU define as "knee-jerk" is my own
unique method of fighting fire with fire (when you consider the brutal
tactics employed by homophobes).
Have fun thinkin' about THAT one!
Chief Thracian
<midwi...@hotmail.co.uk> wrote:
>Intentionally skewed? Well, like I said, you'll have to provide evidence
>of that - and your personal obsession with blaming everything on gay
>people doesn't count.
The EVIDENCE was provided in my followup article. Don't you know how
to read? It was two LINKS to two different gay papers out of San
Francisco, with opinions by other, well informed folks. Here:
http://www.sfbaytimes.com/?sec=article&article_id=7331
and here:
http://www.ebar.com/news/article.php?sec=news&article=2612
I suggest however, you RE-read my original post AND its update, only
this time SLOWLY, so you won't ask me the very questions that were
already ANSWERED in those two pieces. Just go here:
http://www.gay-bible.org/truetales/Larkin/FG_06-T.htm
>Nope: what I'm doing is pointing out your hypersensitivity - your
>disproportionate reaction to an article that doesn't blame gay people for
>anything. What the article says is that gay men may be more at risk due
>to the activity they engage in.
Nope, it says more than that. The DATA is SKEWED, based upon a very
SMALL number of patients. I'm not the one being hypersensitive...it
is the Chronicle news reporter that is, AND the researchers...IOW:
homophobic. A bright red map of The Castro highlighting MRSA cases,
which number around FIVE for that entire area.
>Now, that's valuable information for the
>gay community in the affected area. What it certainly DOESN'T say is
>that gay men are to blame for it. In fact, the article makes it quite
>clear that *anyone* could potentially fall victim to this infection.
AFTER spewing disinformation about the results, and about how gays are
THIRTEEN TIMES more like to catch it...based on clearly and
intentionaly SKEWED data. (Thirteen? Ha! If you believe that choice of
number WASN'T a deliberate attempt to laugh in our gay faces, I have a
bridge in Brooklyn to sell you.)
>But you didn't answer my question: should medical information be made
>available to the public so that they can consider it; or should it be
>suppressed if it offends you?
Medical DISinformation should ALWAYS be suppressed. It's nothing more
than Nazi propaganda. You seem to know a thing or two about
disinformation...at least, how to keep it flowing.
I mean, c'mon, OTHERS in newsgroups DO agree with me, that something
fishy is going on, including one right here in this thread, who is
ALSO heterosexual (thus less likely to have any bias in FAVOR of gay
activists like myself): "1X2Willows".
Chief Thracian
wrote:
>Which just goes to show that being an asshole knows no preference-boundries.
>Congrats to CT for demonstrating such equality with other
>militant-fundies-on-a mission-lacking-basic-logic. You've shown most
>adaquately that gays can be as stupid as straights. Rock on, man! (or
>whatever).
Typical, bratty homophobe. Can't even do a reasonable job to sound
convincing.
Chief Thracian
<midwi...@hotmail.co.uk> wrote:
>Deeply. My faith in humanity has been shaken to its very foundation.
You deserve a swift BOOT to your very foundation.
Chief Thracian
<nos...@least.invalid> wrote:
>Actually, I live in SF, and most of the patients who get this are not
>gay. It's been in the IV drug users for some time, has spread in gyms
>and locker rooms in high schools, NOT in the drama departments in high
>schools .. .
And because drug users and homeless are treated like pariahs, thus
denied DECENT health care and housing...they become a human petri dish
that NURTURES and SPREADS harmful microbes. It is NOT simply a matter
of using germicides too much and too often.
I might add here, that among those two groups, it is the sexual
minority of EITHER group, that is treated the WORST. For the others,
who play hetero, they STILL have the advantage over queers, in many
ways. InCLUDing being less likely to be bashed, or not as often.
Not to mention the shelters and free meals...MOST of which are
provided by homophobic churches.
Chief Thracian
wrote:
>As it should be. What's next, clubbing gay baby seals?
You homophobes just can't stay away from thoughts of VIOLENCE, when
talking about gays, can you? Even in jest. (Which, come to think of
it, is the WORST.)
Chief Thracian
wrote:
>Probably from you:
>"Chief Thracian" <chief_th...@SPAMyahoo.com> wrote in message
>news:4792db2d...@amsterdam.newsgroups-download.com...
>
>"That's a GROSS exaggeration of my position, you homophobic bum."
That, dear loser 'phobe, is simply calling a spade a spade. It is to
be EXPECTED of bigots to twist my words around. YOU, however, do a
most sorry job of it.
Chief Thracian
your own hole, now jump in. Written by someone whom I've never met,
nor heard of before this:
Mainstream media blow it -- again
http://www.ebar.com/openforum/opforum.php?sec=letters
Once again gay men are depicted as a problem. Sabin Russell's January
15 article in the San Francisco Chronicle "Lethal new bacteria --
S.F. an epicenter" admits to a general lack of scientific knowledge.
Russell states that MRSA might be sexually transmitted. Well, duh,
it's spread via skin-skin or skin-surface contact, and that would
include sexual contact as well as contact with, oh say, infected
doorknobs. And yet, Russell feels there's enough evidence to point an
accusatory and sensationalistic finger (the middle one, I suspect) at
SF's gay community. Gee, that's new. Unfortunately, Russell
selectively manages to leave out the extremely high incidence of
infections from elementary and high school gyms and locker rooms.
So SF's gay community is the "epicenter"? What colorful gay-phobic
imagery, definitely more appropriate for the front page of the
Enquirer. Russell provides some statistics re: the denizens of the
94114 Zip code, which just so happens to be in close proximity to SF
General Hospital, therefore a natural place to turn for medical
assistance and exposure. Yet the Zip code 94114 also includes the
predominantly non-gay Noe Valley. And anyone notice all the straight
folks (and baby strollers, etc.) in the Castro? It ain't just gay.
And note that these gay-phobic "facts" are based solely on
epidemiology – the same methodology that "proved" poppers cause AIDS.
But wait, it doesn't.
Does SF General Hospital have any responsibility for the development
and spread of MRSA? SF General admits they've known it's a problem
since 2001, and they've neither cleared out the problem nor stopped
infecting their patients. Why doesn't Russell point that lurid finger
in their direction? Or is it easier to blame the victims whose trust
was violated when they were exposed to this staph bacteria while
seeking medical care?
Also note, doctors claim that by simply cleaning up with soap and
water, you can minimize catching MRSA. Too bad the health department
closed the bathhouses, where people could easily shower after sex. And
anyone notice how the closure did not stop the spread of AIDS?
Buried at the end of the article is the admission that the key factor
might be over-use of antibiotics (a factor not limited to gays living
in the 94114 Zip code), which is probably the fault of an
over-prescribing medical community.
But, hey, when in doubt, blame the fags.
Tom W. Kelly
San Francisco
--end of article
Contrast THIS letter with your own crude words, and what does this
make you look like? A HOMOPHOBE. Jerkwad breeders.
WAIT, I'm not finished. Don't leave this thread yet. Don't I DESERVE
the sheer pleasure of rubbing your own breeder-polluted feces in your
own butt-ugly hetero mugs? (Don't worry, my friends, I'm wearing
osmosis-proof disposable gloves. I won't catch ANY breeder infection.
I also have their MOUTHS gagged, so they can't SPIT any of their
contagious hetero VENOM in my direction.)
There's also THIS news article:
UCSF apologizes for MRSA release
http://www.ebar.com/news/article.php?sec=news&article=2636
Too long to post in its entirety here, but I want to include these
excerpt:
--begin excerpts:
Binh An Diep, 29, the post-doctoral researcher who was the lead author
of the paper, expressed his "regret having made the statement
regarding a potential spread of the new multi-drug-resistant strain of
USA300 into the 'general population.' I deeply apologize for this
offensive jargon as men who have sex with men are part of the general
population," he wrote in an e-mail exchange with a reporter....
Because of its location and the fact that it was first out of the
gate, the Chronicle story set the tone for much of the subsequent
media coverage. The widely distributed Associated Press story was
basically a rewrite of the Chronicle article.
The New York Times article led with a sensationalist focus on the
"flesh-eating" potential for the MRSA strain and its spread "most
easily through anal intercourse."
--end excerpts
I end by quoting Midwhiner's rude remark to me (one among many):
>discounting your hypersensitivity
Right, my justified OUTRAGE is simply "hypersensitivity".
Oh, and this one too:
>"Pay attention: *I* have never heard anyone suggest
>that the spread of MRSA is anything at all to do with sexuality."
No, breeder loser, YOU pay attention. The reason YOU claim to have not
heard anyone suggest this, is because you INTENTIONALLY sabotage gay
activists. I won't go so far as to accuse you of being a PLANT for the
religious right...as there are so MANY homophobe-Nazis all too EAGER
to bash and lambast us queers voluntarily, who needs to organize 'em!
Pay attention: STOP deriding and trivializing gay activists like
myself. WE KNOW WHAT WE ARE DOING. You have shown your TRUE colors: as
intentional SABOTEUR of gay rights, wherever and whenever you get the
chance.
NO ONE who is NOT out of the closet homosexual, has ANY right to have
the last word on the matter of GAY rights. Not the least of which is
your SMARMY, DISEASE-RIDDEN self, Midwhiner.
--
Zeke Krahlin
http://www.gay-bible.org
1X2Willows
> [ad hominem insults snipped]
>
> ... Sabin Russell's January 15 article in the San Francisco Chronicle
> "Lethal new bacteria -- S.F. an epicenter" ...
Yes of course.
Now we're getting the fall-out of the original article you posted.
Surprised?
I thought not.
Dan
1X2Willows
> [....]
> I mean, c'mon, OTHERS in newsgroups DO agree with me, that something
> fishy is going on, including one right here in this thread, who is
> ALSO heterosexual (thus less likely to have any bias in FAVOR of gay
> activists like myself): "1X2Willows".
So far, I am indeed of the opinion that the original article was
presented in a way so as to imply without explicitly saying so,
that homosexual men are responsible for the outbreak of a new
'bug' which has the potential to endanger society as a whole.
No doubt.
Dan
Eloyhm Dynablow
> except when those activists have such an obvious chip on their shoulder,
> and such a determined lack of objectivity, as you appear to.
There is no objectivity; there is humor, patience as well as pain, and
urgency.
Whose objectivity do you speak off? All Objectivity is biased one way
or another by 'science' in its charnal academia, 'politics' by
expediency or beauracracy, 'religion' by dogma and bigotry,
'sexuality' by personal taste. Relativity isn't a haven either. Each
one of lives in their world, the world of others, and the world of The
Other.
Chief Thracian
<nos...@least.invalid> wrote:
>Yes of course.
>Now we're getting the fall-out of the original article you posted.
Thank God for OTHERS in the gay community for keeping on their toes!
Notice the sudden SILENCE of my breeder antagonists in this thread
(midwhiner, scarjism, coot, et al.) It is SO EASY these days for gay
people to discern between TRULY gay-friendly heteros and those OTHERS
("breeder thugs"). For the times they are a-changin', and the gay
bashers now have MORE than enough rope to hang themselves. (Rope
length being 100 times their penis size. Ergo: 100 inches.)
Thanks for your intelligent and compassionate contributions to this
important thread, Dan. I'm very PROUD of the good folks that make up
our queer family, along with those outsiders who nonetheless give us
their unhesitant support. Someday I'll take you out for dinner.
(Keep this post somewhere, and print it out to REMIND me. 'Cause I'll
probably forget about you as I become world FAMOUS. By then, I'll be
EASY to contact, and be OOZING moolah! (My gay-bible.org home page
includes an e-mail link.)
Seamus
wrote:
> Typical, bratty homophobe. Can't even do a reasonable job to sound
> convincing.
Translation: LOOK AT ME! I'M A COCKBITER! YOU CAN'T HATE ME THOUGH,
'CAUSE I'LL CALL YOU A HOMOPHOBE! I CAN BE AS MUCH OF A COMPLETE
ASSHOLE AS I WANT, AND I'LL JUST LABEL ANYONE WHO DISAGREES WITH ME!
Seriously, grow the fuck up. You're probably just doing it for the
angst.
sarchasm
>
> >Probably from you:
> >"Chief Thracian" <chief_th...@SPAMyahoo.com> wrote in message
> >news:4792db2d...@amsterdam.newsgroups-download.com...
> >
> >"That's a GROSS exaggeration of my position, you homophobic bum."
>
> That, dear loser 'phobe, is simply calling a spade a spade. It is to
> be EXPECTED of bigots to twist my words around.
They're your own words, dumbass. Eat them or shove them up your ass as
preferred.
Seamus
wrote:
<snip>
Check your facts there, Zeke. None of us hate gays - we just despise
the self-righteous extremist ones that make real gblt people roll
their eyes and shake their heads.
sarchasm
your're gay?
Seamus
wrote:
> On Tue, 22 Jan 2008 04:13:41 -0600, Midwinter
>
> >Deeply. My faith in humanity has been shaken to its very foundation.
>
> You deserve a swift BOOT to your very foundation.
Glass closets and stones, son.
sarchasm
> "sarchasm" <sar....@yahoo.com> wrote:
>
> >The OP is a militant for his cause; relying on his own knee-jerk
reactions
> >while using the sweeping generalities of falicious premise to accuse
others
> >of nonexistant knee-jerk reaction.
>
> The ONLY fallacious premise going on here, is the notion that any gay
> person who speaks in outrage is paranoid, not observing with a clear
> vision.
The only person throwing that 'paranoid' strawman out there is you,
knee-jerk.
>
> You MIGHT consider that what YOU define as "knee-jerk" is my own
> unique method of ...
... being a militant hetero-basher. Yeah, you own words aren't even close
to being opaque, even without the emphasis.
sarchasm
estimate.
Jim
"Seamus" <fomori...@gmail.com> wrote in message
news:1464a0fd-02f2-4df9...@i72g2000hsd.googlegroups.com...
Besides there would be no modern druidry if it were not for the gays.
truthinc.
>> the self-righteous extremist ones that make real gblt people roll
>> their eyes and shake their heads.
other side.........the extremists who believe that even if someone
looks "gay" they have the right to kill them or smash them
over the head with a crow bar.
You'd be an extremist too with that kind of hatred against you.
Chief Thracian
your scat in your breeder mugs, Midwhiner, scarjism, coot, et al):
Deja AIDS All Over Again
http://www.sfbaytimes.com/index.php?sec=article&article_id=7396
--quote:
"FLESH EATING SUPER BUG SPREADS AMONG GAYS"
That headline and variations of it appeared around the world this past
week as the mainstream media went into panic overdrive in response to
research showing gay men in San Francisco and several other urban
areas were at a higher risk of infection from a drug-resistant form of
staph infection.
--end quote
PAY ATTENTION, homopobes: "That headline and variations of it APPEARED
AROUND THE WORLD". Ergo, all YOU'VE done, Midwhiner, is show to all
the Usenet world, what a gay-hating IGNORMAUS breeder you are. Ha, ha.
ROTFLMAO.
And since you're from England, Midwhiner, you MIGHT try to excuse your
ignorance by claiming no such homophobic article appearing in any
British journal that you know of. So I now quote from that same
article:
"One London tabloid even dubbed MRSA 'the new HIV.'"
Crain is a gay columnist BTW, who was recently bashed to within an
INCH of his life in formerly gay-friendly Holland, thanks to hetero
ignoramuses who like YOU dipwads, who don't give a FUCK about gay
people, instead constantly DERIDE and TRIVIIALIZE our paiticipation in
public forums. (And wilfully IGNORE our plight, while FEIGNING
gay-friendliness.) Read about his bashing here:
The science of anti-gay hate
http://citizenchris.typepad.com/citizenchris/2007/12/the-science-of.html
Chief Thracian
wrote:
>Oddly, most gays around here appear much brighter than you - are you sure
>your're gay?
Are you sure you're hominid? You seem to SLITHER around.
Chief Thracian
wrote:
>... being a militant hetero-basher. Yeah, you own words aren't even close
>to being opaque, even without the emphasis.
Your wit is dim,
Take it on the chin.
You surely ain't the FIRST breeder
Who lacks a sense of humor.
Then again, maybe your brain
Is burdened by a tumor
(Which in others is simply called "thought",
Something which to this thread,
YOU'VE never brought.)
Chief Thracian
wrote:
>My post stands corrected; you are even dumber than the originally low
>estimate.
You're so foul, even the rock you crawled under rejects you, breeder
pervert!
NATURALLY, you refuse to acknowledge my truth in reporting, along with
all the reliable BACKUP I've provided. You're a SORE loser. Typical
hetero scum!
Chief Thracian
wrote:
>They're your own words, dumbass. Eat them or shove them up your ass as
>preferred.
For someone who pretends hetero, you're sure focused on male private
parts! I ABHOR closet types...they're nothing but back stabbers.
Chief Thracian
wrote:
>Besides there would be no modern druidry if it were not for the gays.
EXCELLENT. You may consider me one such...as all too evident when you
visit my web site. Again, thanks.
Chief Thracian
>What you're missing here is you have to balance the extremists on the
>other side.........the extremists who believe that even if someone
>looks "gay" they have the right to kill them or smash them
>over the head with a crow bar.
>
>You'd be an extremist too with that kind of hatred against you.
Well said, amigo!
Chief Thracian
wrote:
>Besides there would be no modern druidry if it were not for the gays.
Got a poem for ya (writ by yours truly):
ACROSTIC TO AIREN
by
Ezekiel Joseph Krahlin (Soon to be "Airen Jay Kells")
Druid Extraordinaire
1.
C ool-weather Bird of Paradise, spread your
O range wings of Kilkenny's Celtic dawn over my
P allid fields of scorched flesh and charred bones.
P hoenix rising to your lips, I am
E ire's promise of the Emerald Eye
R esurrected from the fires of Christian wars.
A iren, Christ of Ireland and Dragon of the Stone,
N ever turn your back on the Little People.
G reen clover bends in the shadow of your steps while
E agles pluck St. Patrick's bones and
L eprechauns dance rings around your copper-penny hair.
2.
O my gay brothers and sisters of Airen's Land,
You have suffered o'er much.
'Tis time for your shackles to drop to the ground,
And your wings to sprout!
Lead the way to revolution,
Druid Republic arise in Emerald Splendor!
Thou art LEADERS over breeders!
Fear not the lash, the tongue, the gun,
For you ARE now INVINCIBLE!
Give the curs-ed heteros HELL
If such be your pleasure.
For NO straight person can even come close
To your measure
Of sacrifice, pride, wisdom and treasure!
BLAST the Blarney Stone to Kingdom Cum,
No kisses shall evermore be wasted
On deceptive straight tongue
While Jesus yearns to love his BROTHER,
Because thou art so very well hung!
Guilt is not the ruler of innocent lamb,
Nor Catholic dogma
That would have us DAMNED
For everlasting TIME,
'Cause brotherly love they deem
The ULTIMATE crime!
Arise triumphant, O Celtic Nation, in all your Lavender Glory!
Gay leaders EMERGE from Belfast's cinders
Of Christian strife.
Gaelic midwife,
Be not concerned with gender.
Ye are not to judge who packs the fudge,
But only with dismember
Of stillborn legal bodies
And intentional DECEIT that dis-remembers
Eire's noble history
Of same-sex love whose breath keeps aglow
Those pagan embers.
Seamus
wrote:
> On Thu, 24 Jan 2008 23:16:43 -0700, "sarchasm" <sar.ch...@yahoo.com>
> wrote:
>
> >They're your own words, dumbass. Eat them or shove them up your ass as
> >preferred.
>
> For someone who pretends hetero, you're sure focused on male private
> parts! I ABHOR closet types...they're nothing but back stabbers.
You're a closet hetero, Zeke. Either that, or the stupidest gay man
I've had the pleasure of discourse with.
Chief Thracian
<midwi...@hotmail.co.uk> wrote:
FYI Midwhiner: I see you have your messages set to self-erase on
January 27. However, I've DOWNLOADED the entire thread already, and am
KEEPING all contents for the record. AND for public viewing...er, I
mean "shaming".
You can run, but you can't hide!
Seamus
> >> Check your facts there, Zeke. None of us hate gays - we just despise
> >> the self-righteous extremist ones that make real gblt people roll
> >> their eyes and shake their heads.
Extremists of any creed or color are a sick breed.
> You'd be an extremist too with that kind of hatred against you.
I think not. Smokers have to put up with straight-edgers who're more
than happy to tear the cig from their fingers, burn them with it an
then thrash them within an inch of death.
Gays and other minorities have to put up with the same from complete
chavs, and people like me have to put up with the exact same thing
from militant gays who can no longer discern friend from foe, and have
resorted to calling anything hetero a "breeder" (as if that's an
insult?) and use it as a license to be a total ass.
Seamus
wrote:
> On Fri, 25 Jan 2008 06:20:07 -0800, "Jim" <stonelo...@softcom.net>
> wrote:
>
> >Besides there would be no modern druidry if it were not for the gays.
>
> EXCELLENT. You may consider me one such...as all too evident when you
> visit my web site. Again, thanks.
You're a druid, but you're a raging, angsty, violent chav. Sort of
defeats the purpose.
Medusa Slox
: On Jan 25, 1:16 pm, chief_thracia...@SPAMyahoo.com (Chief Thracian)
I'm rather sure that an ass isn't just a MALE private part.
***Looks in the mirror****
Yes, quite sure.
Medusa Slox
Chief Thracian
<midwi...@hotmail.co.uk> wrote:
>The big problem is that such a supposed supporter of gay
>rights probably does more harm to the public perception of gay people than
>any number of 'bashers'.
False premise. Nice try though, albeit weak. The HATRED and DAMAGE
already existant by breeders could NEVER be trumped by even the most
OUTRAGEOUS accusations by ANY gay person, ANYWHERE in the world.
Chief Thracian
<midwi...@hotmail.co.uk> wrote:
>Go for it. I stand by everything I've said. And I'm still waiting for
>your data.
Already posted several days ago. In this thread. If you're too feeble
minded to track it down, that's YOUR problem.
Seamus
wrote:
> >Go for it. I stand by everything I've said. And I'm still waiting for
> >your data.
>
> Already posted several days ago. In this thread. If you're too feeble
> minded to track it down, that's YOUR problem.
Oh, she meant RELEVANT data. Sorry about that.
Chief Thracian
<midwi...@hotmail.co.uk> wrote:
>Genius. McGonagall is reborn.
: D
I once knew a teen called Nick
Who possessed an exCEEDingly big dick,
But when he dropped his pants
All I saw there were ants,
So I said: "No thanks, I'll just take a lick."
Chief Thracian
<midwi...@hotmail.co.uk> wrote:
>Genius. McGonagall is reborn.
Thanks to you, I just joined McGonagall Online's gem-of-the-day
mailing list.
http://www.mcgonagall-online.org.uk/
(This doesn't let you off the hook regarding the GAY issue BTW, just
the TAY issue. Ah-choo-choo-choo!)
sarchasm
> chief_th...@SPAMyahoo.com (Chief Thracian) said :
>
> > The ONLY fallacious premise going on here, is the notion that any gay
> > person who speaks in outrage is paranoid, not observing with a clear
> > vision.
>
> No: anyone who takes massive personal offence at a single report that's at
> best ambiguous, then suggests some massive anti-gay conspiracy involving
> disinformation and "Nazi propaganda", and becomes abusive and accusatory
to
> anyone who questions their conclusions is probably not observing with a
> clear vision. The big problem is that such a supposed supporter of gay
> rights probably does more harm to the public perception of gay people than
> any number of 'bashers'.
Well said.
>
> Calm down a tad, demonstrate some rational objectivity, support your
claims
> and conclusions, and I might start taking you a little more seriously.
'Might' being a key qualifier here.
sarchasm
sarchasm
That'll be presented at the next anti-anti-gay cult bash next Wednesday.
Don't be late. Bring chips.
Chief Thracian
<midwi...@hotmail.co.uk> wrote:
>Ah, no. See, that would be a couple of articles plus your otherwise
>unsubstantiated claims that the data was deliberately skewed, that it's
>"Nazi propaganda", and that there's some sort of conspiracy going on to
>defame gay people.
You intentionally TRIVIALIZE the news reference I provided. The data
WAS skewed deliberately, for which the medical and news culprits were
reprimanded by various savvy and concerned SF citizens. Their skewing
data against an already persecuted minority is PRECISELY a Nazi style
tactic.
So the first two points you made are invalid, and OBVIOUSLY an attempt
to support your heterocentric ARROGANCE. When the Chronicle's article
came out, I was the FIRST to denounce their skulduggery, as well as
that of SF General Hospital and the UC Med Center. Within several
days, other outraged citizens spoke up with the SAME accusations as
yours truly...stopping short however, with seeing the PATTERN of an
orchestrated attempt to foment social ANTAGONISM against gays.
>Like I said, I await the data that you have obtained scientifically, with
>which you are going to show the inaccuracy of that provided by these other
>researchers.
I have a KEEN intuition that sees more readily, obvious connections
between events that eludes many others. ESPECIALLY when it comes to
gay issues (my specialty), since the MAJORITY of citizens are already
BIASED against gays, and thus, like you, are EAGER to jump all over
the rare gay activist who is blowing the whistle against an OBVIOUS
conspiracy.
The evidence you expect, is the last to come in, but I assure you it
will. My whistle blowing--which is based on CIRCUMSTANCIAL evidence
(albeit overwhelming)--will FACILITATE those outraged persons who have
ACCESS to solid evidence, which is unavailable to yours truly.
You didn't even ACKNOWLEDGE the veracity of my pointing out the
homophobic slant of the SF Chronicle and Dr. Binh Diep...after other
reporters and letter writers chimed in, giving ME affirmation of my
claim You PERSISTED with your original stance, even AFTER
circumstancial evidence proved CLEARLY the intent (or "conspiracy") of
some people and institutions to blame homosexuals, and to gain fame
and glory by their LIES.
This indicates you maintain a cruel bias AGAINST queers, rather than a
neutral position. The MAJORITY of people are readily to BELIEVE that
gays are at higher risk to MRSA, as well as SPREADERS of this horrid
bacteria...due to their ugly BIAS against gays. And that gay sex is
NATURALLY far more filthier than hetero sex (citing butt-fucking as
the cause, regardless than straights partake in same with considerably
frequency. Implying that queer feces harbors more diseases than
breeder feces! (After all, aren't they natural carriers of plague?)
Dr. Diep et al were shoved into a corner and had to APOLOGIZE for
their erroneous and poorly gathered data. The ONLY reason why
intelligent people would commit such a horrid act of homophobic
bigotry, is because that was their PLAN in the first place. This is NO
accident, and I am totally sick and tired of heteros in power who
CONTINUE to play the old "faggots are filthy" card in order to gain
glory, wealth, and power.
Since YOU are not even willing to acknowledge the ACCURACY of my claim
of these culprits presenting CLEARLY skewed data as an underhanded and
prejudiced tactic, even when the EVIDENCE came pouring in...
I must CONCLUDE that your are a malicious breeder who will NEVER stop
demeaing gays until his last breath (and may THAT come soon)...while
doing his very, very best to appear "gay friendly".
I got your number.
Chief Thracian
wrote:
>That'll be presented at the next anti-anti-gay cult bash next Wednesday.
>Don't be late. Bring chips.
Have you EVER contributed any sort of POSITIVE support of gay people?
Have you EVER confronted someone for calling another "faggot" in
public, told him that was plain WRONG?
Judging by your flippant participation in this thread--treating gay
bashing as if it were a silly joke--I'd say no, you never have.