Koos on Freya's death - In his own words

[John Dorsay]

Again, I have removed most of the insane formatting. I have not
altered the insane text.

https://groups.google.com/group/misc.education/msg/34217f0ff3c1964e?dmode=source&output=gplain&noredirect


The Mozart Effect Getting Someone Out Of Extreme Hate

16 October 2002

It looks like I got Freya out of her extreme Hate of Life, that she
was put into* by her extremely Ugly and Hateful raven-mother Jutta
Joos and her "friends" Richard Reiss and L.

Ron Hubbard by which she wanted to and managed to commit suicide, on
Christmas Day.

That I got her out of her extreme Hate of Life now, apparently
happened (slightly before 02:30 UTC (GMT) 16 Oct 2002) today as a
direct result of the Mozart Effect and with the help of Michael who
connected to that music and to Civilization which it stands for.

Upon his request, I suggested to Michael yesterday, to listen to the
fragment of Mozart Piano Concerto Eleven - Third Movement, played by
Derek Han, that is indicated in - 'Mozart - Remembering Heaven Or
Civilization' (16 Sept 2002)
http://groups.google.com/groups?selm=c26a56d.0209160201.65828d6%40posting.google.com&oe=utf-8&output=gplain
and in - 'True Leadership of Johann Sebastian Bach Through His
Music' (22 Sept 2002)
http://groups.google.com/groups?selm=3b6f518d.0209220319.55453ee0%40posting.google.com&oe=utf-8&output=gplain
His connecting to Civilization, made it easy enough for me to hold
a viewpoint on Freya's extreme Hate of Life, and for me to caringly
confront her with her being in that condition, and to confront her,
equally caringly, with the fact that I am going to inform everyone
about it so that they know what and whom she is not standing up to
but giving in to.

I am talking of course about the person, the soul, of Freya.

And whether she is born again or not yet, is really immaterial.

I have to mention that for the freaks, the deluding, deformed souls,
and for the deluding charlatans and quacks, and also for those that
are deluded into still "Believing In The Stork" - meaning those who
still believe that they came from 'no-where' when they were born -
all of whom are likely to read this.

'Believing in the stork' - that babies come from the stork [a big
bird with a very long bill or bird-mouth] - was a mechanism to hide
unallowed sexual activities.

That 'explanation' for the arrival of babies, then of course had to
be logically extended to marital relations as well, as both
relations produced babies.

That is how it was used.

'Believing People Are "New" When Born' is a mechanism to hide
criminal minds - like reborn Nazis and other mass-murderers and so on.

A delusion, unfortunately, that Simon Wiesenthal helped spreading
and unwittingly helped being believed.

If you can't see other's past lives or their soul, you might as well
call yourself 'Sitting Duck' - because you are not going to know
whom you are dealing with and are supporting.

Or quite on the other hand, you might as well call yourself 'Lame
Duck' because you are not going to know whom you FAIL to connect
with and FAIL to support.

And if you don't know your own past lives - well...

Koos Nolst Trenite "Cause Trinity" human rights philosopher and poet
* Footnote: As extensively published about and by them in the
RI-Bulletins.

References:
- 'Remembering Because Of Lindsay Lohan, And 'The Parent Trap'' (3
Aug 2002 - issued 24 Sept 2002)
http://groups.google.com/groups?selm=3b6f518d.0209241608.52b21330%40posting.google.com&oe=utf-8&output=gplain

- 'Past Lives and Rationality' (12 Sept 2002)
http://groups.google.com/groups?selm=3b6f518d.0209132219.71b5cf63%40posting.google.com&oe=utf-8&output=gplain

- 'Defining Love and Hate - A Law of Life (Definition)' (29 July
2002)
http://groups.google.com/groups?selm=9ed8f96d.0208041252.218c3dc6%40posting.google.com&oe=utf-8&output=gplain

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[Davis]

Thank you very much for these "reprints" -- the portrait they paint is indeed
very disturbing.

Do you know what ever happened to Jutta? Did she manage to escape with her
health and sanity (and hopefully her life) intact?

Although Scientology claims to be "making the able more able" -- the sad
reality is that it makes the insane and deluded MORE insane and deluded.

I was also looking through old A.R.S. posts, and I was sorry to see (though
not surprised) that your wife got dragged into it, John.

[John Dorsay]

On 5/19/2013 11:22 AM, Davis wrote:
>
> Thank you very much for these "reprints" -- the portrait they paint is indeed
> very disturbing.
>
> Do you know what ever happened to Jutta? Did she manage to escape with her
> health and sanity (and hopefully her life) intact?

I'm afraid I don't know. I wish I did.

> Although Scientology claims to be "making the able more able" -- the sad
> reality is that it makes the insane and deluded MORE insane and deluded.
>
> I was also looking through old A.R.S. posts, and I was sorry to see (though
> not surprised) that your wife got dragged into it, John.

Yeah, that happened a couple of times. As far as I know, neither the
culties (back in the 90s) nor Kook Tom K (in the last year or two)
ever acted on their threats to try and cause her problems with her
career.

That's not to say they never did, of course, but to the best of my
knowledge they did not. But net.kooks seem convinced that insane
anonymous allegations will result in immediate turmoil for their
targets, when in reality insane anonymous allegations are most
likely to just be ignored. So maybe they did and we just never heard.

Still, even if there were no complaints directed at my wife, it is
unsettling when kooks take the trouble to identify workplaces and
employment details of family members. One never knows how much
further they may go. Sick stuff.

Some years back the cult launched a smear campaign against Gregg
Hagglund's wife, who was a school teacher at the time (I haven't had
any contact with Gregg for 10 years or more; he and his wife may
both be retired now). Anyway, the culties actually phoned the school
- several times - where Gregg's wife worked, and made all kinds of
insane allegations about her. The school told Gregg's wife about the
phone calls, and IIRC helped Gregg and his wife to track down the
origin of the crank calls.

It is possible, although I think very unlikely, that the cult and/or
Kook Tom K actually contacted my wife's employer to complain about
her or me. But I am pretty sure she would have been told if such a
thing had happened, which leads me to believe it never did. Still,
even the threat is pretty warped. Nice cult (and nice self-described
critic).


John