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Out_Of_The_Dark

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Mar 26, 2008, 11:48:49 PM3/26/08
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This really disgusted me for the mere fact that the public
scientologists had to step in and try to help because the failures of
Scientology left elderly members with little to no planning or
finances. That goes for Public members, staff members and Sea Org
members. Here's a bit of what they have done over the years and when
their purposes are. Not the 'new body shopping' consultant blurb.
Scientology lunacy at it's best:
New Era Seniors International (NESI)
Creating a New Reality of Aging
Carolyn Holt, E.D.
323.661.1903
1405 N. New Hampshire Ave. #207
Los Angeles, CA
90027
Two main kinds of activities:
1. helping individual seniors find solutions to particular
problems, through referrals to community resources, to
members of our barter group, and the like. There is a vast
array of community resources for seniors and we show you
how to tap into it.
2. setting up programs to help large numbers of seniors,
such as an assist-givers network by zip code, disseminating
information about legal rudiments for end-of-life issues,,
and eventually a complete retirement facility of our own.
--------------------------------------------------
(c) 1998 New Era Seniors Inc. ( means been around at least that long)

LIFE TRANSITION POSTING

NESI proudly welcomes its new "Life Transition" Consultant, Julie
Schwartz. Julie is very experienced in helping those who have decided
the time has come to move on. She helps them wrap up their cycles and
takes them shopping for a new body! There's nothing like being at
cause over one's future! Wonderful! Just wonderful! Welcome Julie.
http://www.dwebsite.com/g5-bin/client.cgi?G5button=2867&categoryID=525&articleID=573

Founder and Trustee NESI - Suesan Walker:
Suesan first conceived of the idea for NESI some years ago and it was
formed and registered as a public benefit, not-for-profit, tax-exempt
organization, originally under the name of "The Crepuscule" (meaning
the twilight or dusk). Although the name was loved by a few it was not
understood by the many and a survey resulted in the current very
popular name of New Era Seniors International (NESI), which has all
the same tax exempt qualifications.
As an owner and CEO, Suesan currently runs a consulting and grant-
writing business called
Et Cetera from her new home in Clearwater, Florida where she keeps a
guiding eye on NESI's progress, works with other local nonprofits and
serves on the B of Dir. for Clearwater Community Volunteers.
Prior to her move to Florida, Suesan has been the driving force for
obtaining grants for the Hollywood Education & Literacy Project Int.
in Hollywood and remains on their Board of Directors. Additionally she
is on the Advisory Board of the Boys and Girls Club of Hollywood and
continues to work with a number of nonprofits in California. Suesan is
also the Founder of the Glenn County Seniors Centers in North
California.
Of NESI, Suesan says, "Working with the Glenn County and as a Senior
Advocate, I ran into elder abuse both in and out of nursing homes as
well as seniors and their families trying to work through the maze of
government paperwork to get help with problems. After moving back to
Los Angeles I was approached numerous times to help with difficulties
that some of the senior members of our group were encountering and
decided that we really needed to tackle this area. I told a couple of
friends about the idea and they were right behind it and off we went.
NESI has stayed strong to the original vision and the expanded Board
of Directors is doing an incredible job of creating new programs and
expanding membership." [..]

]..] Founding members are welcomed to NESI and are listed here and all
future NESI NEWS newsletters will welcome our new members.
From the USA: Suesan Walker, Barry N Watson, Carolyn Holt, Peggy
Barnes, Sandra Baikie, Mark Kevitt, Joan Kevitt, Constance Silton Lynn
Peters Rebecca Weiss Sara Smith Marilyn Carvin Kenneth Barrett Hedy
Oliver Frances Jackson David Carlson Richard Coanda Laura Masters
Barbara Bourgeous Kathleen Gregg Sharron Goldwasser Elfreda Karle
Dorothy Livengood Eldon Kaufman Ron Suiter
Donnella Frost Sue Zenger David Hunter Pat Curtis David Curtis Cheryl
Schawalbe Marcia Powell Willard Michlin Clare Anahu Judith Townsend
Marti Marshal Virjinia Smedberg Shana Daum Rebecca Mate Marilyn Totten
Pam Kilpatrick Dick Dimmock Marie Dimmock Scott Campbell Karry
Campbell Pamela Blehert Dean Blehert Aileen Cronin Julie Schwartz
David Holt From New Zealand: Alison Axford Lynnaire Liversedge Vicky
Casement Mary Stevens
http://www.dwebsite.com/g5-bin/client.cgi?G5button=2867&categoryID=525&articleID=806

CARE FACILITY OPERATING
NESI members Scott and Karry Campbell are operating a three-person
care facility in Laguna Hills, Southern California. One of the persons
being well cared for there is Bud Suiter, the 90 year old father of
NESI member Ron Suiter. Under their excellent spiritual and
nutritional care at "Karry's Elder Care" Bud has made a wonderful
recovery back to health after being in a rather bad way.
The Board of Directors made a personal visit to this wonderful
facility and held a meeting to set the course for planning, obtaining,
opening and operating a much larger facility. Present at the meeting
were: NESI President, Barry Nelson Watson; Board Member and Executive
Director, Carolyn Holt; Board Member, Peggy Barnes; members, Ron
Suiter, Scott Campbell, Karry Campbell; and Bud Suiter.
WELCOME NEW MEMBERS
The following new members are welcomed: From the USA: Robyn Robichaux
Blue Monroe Malcolm Anderson Mario Feninger Suzanne Van der Merwe
Polly Hertz Laura Malm Tom Lynch Lowell Alexander Merry Alexander
TRANSITIONING FROM ONE LIFE TO THE NEXT - AND YOU DOING IT AT CAUSE!
New Era Seniors is putting on a fascinating seminar for those of you
in the Los Angeles area.

We are going to try to arrange to get this to those of you in other
areas before too long.
http://www.dwebsite.com/g5-bin/client.cgi?G5button=2867&categoryID=525&articleID=805

NESI NEWS Newsletters

NESI NEWS #5 (Volume 1, Issue 5)
NEW ERA SENIORS INTERNATIONAL
THE UN-RETIREMENT PEOPLE

INTRODUCING NEW ERA SENIORS Executive Director
CAROLYN HOLT

Carolyn was born in Flint Michigan as the daughter of a minister. She
went to college in PA and spent a year in Newark NJ as an apprentice/
helper in a foster care home for little girls. She went to graduate
school in New York City and spent two years working in St. Luke's
Hospital. She also worked in Beth Israel Hospital, and the East
Midtown Services for Older People.
She met many people who'd somehow lived through the Holocaust with
concentration camp numbers on their arms.
Carolyn has a Master's degree in Social Work, (individual casework as
opposed to group work or community organization). She has 17 years
paid experience in hospitals, medical clinics and senior multipurpose
service centers, both in California and in New York - and several
years unpaid experience recently.
Carolyn learned of our organization - which was then called The
Crepuscule (meaning twilight or dusk) and later renamed New Era
Seniors International - NESI, in the late '90's and later joined us to
add her considerable and valuable experience and expertise.
Carolyn shares the groups concerns that older Church Members who have
committed their lives to the Church (whether on staff or not), who
have not set aside for their older years, will have to scrape
ignominiously along on just Social Security, and will see no physical
universe reward for all the good they have done.
She shares our concern that older Church Members without proper health-
care- powers-of-attorney will have a physical or emotional crisis and
get sucked into the mental health care system and be mistreated and
damaged by psychiatry.
Carolyn wants to help ensure that older members do not give in to
physical deterioration, keep upbeat looking for things to do, and do
what they can do.
She knows exercise, keeping involved with others and having fun are
important.
WELCOME NEW MEMBERS
The following new members are welcomed: From the USA: Lorrie O'Brien
Andrea Costello Carlos Carias Roberta Perry Tania Skrabak Anita Warren
Lynn Campbell Claire Fromer From Australia: Barbara Dowling

HOMEOWNER AND RENTER ASSISTANCE CLAIMS

IT'S TIME TO FILE THE HOMEOWNER AND RENTER ASSISTANCE CLAIMS
The Franchise tax Board began accepting 2007 homeowner and renter
assistance claims July 1,
2007 and will continue accepting claims through June 30, 2008.
Homeowner's assistance is an annual payment from the state based on
part of the property taxes
assessed and paid on your home. Eligible homeowners may receive up to
139% of the property
taxes paid on the first $34,000 of the value of the home in 2006.
Renter's assistance is also an annual payment from the state on part
of the property taxes you
paid indirectly when you paid your rent.
The 2007 claims are based on your 2006 income. The maximum total
household income for
2006 calendar year is $42,770 and the maximum gross household income
for 2006 calendar
$77,762.
The maximum payment allowed for 2007 claim year is
$472.60 for homeowners and
$347.50 for renters.
Most checks are mailed within 15 weeks from the date the claim was
filed.
Eligibility: You must meet any one of these requirements.
62 years or older
Blind
Disabled
You can get a home owner claim form (FTB 9000H)at :
http://www.ftb.ca.gov/forms/07_forms/07_9000hm.pdf?refresh=79919
Renters claim form (FTB 9000R) at:
http://www.ftb.ca.gov/forms/07_forms/07_9000rm.pdf?refresh=79919
If you don't have access to a computer send us a stamped self-
addressed envelope to: NESI
1405 N. New Hampshire #207, Hollywood, CA 90027 and we'll mail you a
form. Just let us know

Write to: NESI NEWS Editor with news,
1405 N New Hampshire Ave. #207
Los Angeles, CA 90027, USA
Fax: 323-665-2152
Website: http://www.NewEraSeniors.org
(c) 2006
http://www.dwebsite.com/g5-bin/client.cgi?G5button=2867&categoryID=525&articleID=912

NEW ERA SENIORS INC
1405 N NEW HAMPSHIRE AVE APT 207
HOLLYWOOD, CA 90027-6033

Financial Snapshot
Revenue: $0
Assets: $0
Codes
EIN: 954691398
NTEE: E91 - NURSING FACILITIES
ERI NTEE: E99 - HEALTH CARE N.E.C.
Group Exemption Number: 0000
SubSection: 03 - Charitable Organizations
Affiliate: 3 - Independent - This code is used if the organization is
an independent organization or an independent auxiliary (i.e., not
affiliated with a National, Regional, or Geographic grouping of
organizations).
Classification: 1 - Corporation
Deductibility: 1 - Contributions are deductible.
Foundation: 15 - Organization which receives a substantial part of
its support from a governmental unit or the general public
Filing Requirement: 020 -
Activity Code(s): 000 -
000 -
000 -

Form 990's
Below are a list of IRS Form 990 Tax Returns for Exempt Organizations
relating to NEW ERA SENIORS INC. Please click a link to display the
PDF form. (Document size is indicated at right.)

Address
NEW ERA SENIORS INC
1405 N NEW HAMPSHIRE AVE APT 207
HOLLYWOOD, CA 90027-6033

FormName (EIN_YEAR_HEX) File Size
-- --
No Documents found for NEW ERA SENIORS INC.
Documents may not have been scanned or organization not required to
file.

New Era Seniors International (NESI) the Un-Retirement People
EDEN LIVING FACILITIES FOR SENIORS

An initiative of New Era Seniors Inc (NESI)

When NESI was founded one of the primary purposes was to provide
graceful, affordable living for seniors. In order to make this dream
happen faster we are creating a for-profit arm for New Era Seniors
that will create these living facilitate.

In this manner we not only provide the facilities and services but
also create an opportunity for both large and small investors. NESI
would be a majority stock holder and funds would flow to NESI for
operation expenses and into a special trust for assistance with senior
living.

We are presently conducting feasibility studies and would appreciate
your taking the time to fill out and return the following survey. You
can email to me at sues...@msn.com or mail to New Era Seniors, 1405
N. New Hampshire #207, Hollywood, CA 90027 [..]
( Read the survey, lol)
http://www.dwebsite.com/g5-bin/client.cgi?G5button=2870

perhaps this is what EDEN became? Either that or it's related to Ebony
Awakening, which Suesan Walker & the Best's are also board members
of:
ALAFIA COMMUNITY LAND TRUST INC
http://www.sunbiz.org/pdf/80753648.pdf
Detail by Officer/Registered Agent Name
Florida Non Profit Corporation
ALAFIA COMMUNITY LAND TRUST, INC.
Filing Information
Document Number N06000008677
FEI Number 562609904
Date Filed 08/16/2006
State FL
Status ACTIVE

Principal Address
1500 SAN ROY DRIVE
DUNEDIN FL 34698
Changed 05/04/2007
Mailing Address
1500 SAN ROY DRIVE
DUNEDIN FL 34698
Changed 05/04/2007
Registered Agent Name & Address
BEST, KAREN
1500 SAN ROY DRIVE
DUNEDIN FL 34698 US
Officer/Director Detail
Name & Address
Title C
HALLBACK, DONALD
1112 WEST MADISON STREET
PLANT CITY FL 33563
Title C
BEST, GLENN E
1500 SAN ROY DRIVE
DUNEDIN FL 34698
Title ST
BEST, KAREN
1500 SAN ROY DRIVE
DUNEDIN FL 34698
Title D
HAMILTON, STEPHANIE
1709 BALMORAL STREET
CLEARWATER FL 33756
Title D
WALKER, SUESAN
6530 ANNIE OAKLEY DRIVE #1827
HENDERSON NV 89014
Title D
VALTIN, PATRICK
1988 FREEDOM DRIVE
CLEARWATER FL 33755
Annual Reports
Report Year Filed Date
2007 05/04/2007
05/04/2007 -- ANNUAL REPORT
http://www.sunbiz.org/pdf/60648996.pdf

barb

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Mar 27, 2008, 3:13:55 AM3/27/08
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HOLY <BUMP> FUCKING <BUMP> SHIT!
YOU HAVE GOT TO BE KIDDING ME! OMFG! On top of Chuck's post about some
brain damaged woman rattling around, this really takes the caek. And the
caek is a lie!

Preying on the elderly? Is there no level this cult won't stoop to to
scrape up a few old folk's remaining savings???

DOWN WITH THIS SORT OF THING! NOW!

--
Barb
Chaplain, ARSCC (wdne)
I can haz Legion?

“I think that the protections that we enjoy for freedom of worship exist
so long as we don’t step over the line. When religious worship and
belief cross over into things like fraud, victimization of others and
the disruption of the political arena, that protection is no longer
appropriate.”

--Robert Goff
Professor Emeritus, UCSC

AnonymousNasty

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Mar 27, 2008, 2:25:39 AM3/27/08
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> >http://www.dwebsite.com/g5-bin/client.cgi?G5button=2867&categoryID=52...
> >http://www.dwebsite.com/g5-bin/client.cgi?G5button=2867&categoryID=52...

>
> > CARE FACILITY OPERATING
> > NESI members Scott and Karry Campbell are operating a three-person
> > care facility in Laguna Hills, Southern California. One of the persons
> > being well cared for there is Bud Suiter, the 90 year old father of
> > NESI member Ron Suiter. Under their excellent spiritual and
> > nutritional care at "Karry's Elder Care" Bud has made a wonderful
> > recovery back to health after being in a rather bad way.
> > The Board of Directors made a personal visit to this wonderful
> > facility and held a meeting to set the course for planning, obtaining,
> > opening and operating a much larger facility. Present at the meeting
> > were: NESI President, Barry Nelson Watson; Board Member and Executive
> > Director, Carolyn Holt; Board Member, Peggy Barnes; members, Ron
> > Suiter, Scott Campbell, Karry Campbell; and Bud Suiter.
> > WELCOME NEW MEMBERS
> > The following new members are welcomed: From the USA: Robyn Robichaux
> > Blue Monroe Malcolm Anderson Mario Feninger Suzanne Van der Merwe
> > Polly Hertz Laura Malm Tom Lynch Lowell Alexander Merry Alexander
> > TRANSITIONING FROM ONE LIFE TO THE NEXT - AND YOU DOING IT AT CAUSE!
> > New Era Seniors is putting on a fascinating seminar for those of you
> > in the Los Angeles area.
>
> > We are going to try to arrange to get this to those of you in other
> > areas before too long.
> >http://www.dwebsite.com/g5-bin/client.cgi?G5button=2867&categoryID=52...
> >http://www.dwebsite.com/g5-bin/client.cgi?G5button=2867&categoryID=52...
> > can email to me at suesan...@msn.com or mail to New Era Seniors, 1405

So this part of my question too, what is to be done for eldery members
and the kids brought up in Scietology to help them move on from the
cult.
$cietology Kill$

AnonymousNasty

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Mar 27, 2008, 2:27:21 AM3/27/08
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> ...
>
> read more »- Hide quoted text -
>
> - Show quoted text -

Question, what do us Anons and supporters do if some from "the dark
side" literally walk out of the orgs and says help...it is bound to
happen sooner or later. Do we take them at face value or do we think
about how the cult is really good at games of deception. And again I
mention an underground rail road for these people because of
Operation
Reconnect. Maybe this already exists for former members (Ex-
Scietolgykids.org) or those trying to escape literally. I am not
asking for details but I would feel better knowing that there is some
plan to help these people because they usually leave with no job and
sometimes no family, because they might be leaving family behind. No
where to go, or no one to go to because they literally do not know
what to do. And I would think they have been so brainwashed to think
we hate them and will not help them. Are there good deprogrammers
specifically for $cietology.
$cietology Kill$

Android Cat

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Mar 27, 2008, 2:41:16 AM3/27/08
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Kim P

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Mar 27, 2008, 6:52:29 AM3/27/08
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Helps them wrap up their cycles and shopping for a new body? Anyone else
find this disturbing or is it just me?

KIm P

Hartley Patterson

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Mar 27, 2008, 8:20:58 AM3/27/08
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xscilen...@yahoo.com:

> This really disgusted me for the mere fact that the public
> scientologists had to step in and try to help because the failures of
> Scientology left elderly members with little to no planning or
> finances. That goes for Public members, staff members and Sea Org
> members. Here's a bit of what they have done over the years and when
> their purposes are. Not the 'new body shopping' consultant blurb.
> Scientology lunacy at it's best:

Non productive people are so despised in by the fanatics running the cult
that helping them has to be disguised as something else otherwise the
project will be shut down.

Volunteer Ministers aren't rescuing disaster victims, they are
disseminating.
Delphi isn't teaching children, it's making new staff.
This project is getting people ready for their next life as
Scientologists.
Helping other charities is actually safepointing.


--
Hartley Patterson
http://www.newsfrombree.co.uk
http://news-from-bree.blogspot.com

Out_Of_The_Dark

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Mar 27, 2008, 8:43:17 AM3/27/08
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On Mar 27, 8:20 am, Hartley Patterson <hptt...@daisy.freeserve.co.uk>
wrote:
> xscilentolog...@yahoo.com:

Exactly, although I don't think the reality of it is evident to the
scientologists involved in this. It's all part of being programmed to
fit in somewhere and be of some help in 'clearing the planet' or risk
the consequences. The member s who join are actually people in need of
guidence or finances or help. These are the scientologists who grew up
to find that they were'nt as Clear or OT as they thought.
I don't see how wogs can be included in this 'body shopping' thing. I
wonder how this nonprofit group explains that to wogs that are
supposed to be included in the services and to the government.

There is undoubtedly more going on here.

R. Hill

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Mar 27, 2008, 9:24:14 AM3/27/08
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On Mar 27, 6:52 am, Kim P <yduzitmat...@cogeco.ca> wrote:
> Out_Of_The_Dark wrote:

<snip>

> > LIFE TRANSITION POSTING
>
> > NESI proudly welcomes its new "Life Transition" Consultant, Julie
> > Schwartz. Julie is very experienced in helping those who have decided
> > the time has come to move on. She helps them wrap up their cycles and
> > takes them shopping for a new body! There's nothing like being at
> > cause over one's future! Wonderful! Just wonderful! Welcome Julie.

> >http://www.dwebsite.com/g5-bin/client.cgi?G5button=2867&categoryID=52...


>
> Helps them wrap up their cycles and shopping for a new body? Anyone else
> find this disturbing or is it just me?
>
> KIm P

That supports that "end of cycle" (EOC) is used in Scientology as
dying, "dropping the body." I always found curious that Vicki Aznaran
in her recant affidavit expressly denied that EOC was used in
Scientology terminology. Her whole recant affidavit doesn't hold water
with all the materials available from other sources, and the fact that
she thought EOC needed to be expressly denied suggest to me that David
Miscavige has particular concerns to have the expression associated
with him and the Church of Scientology...

<snip>

Skipper

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Mar 27, 2008, 10:03:14 AM3/27/08
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In article
<c9460b55-fc1f-4359...@e60g2000hsh.googlegroups.com>, R.
Hill <rh...@xenu-directory.net> wrote:

Rick and Vicki Aznaran are two of the most fake people I ever met.
Never liked them in or out of the church. Word that rhymes with sores.

barb

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Mar 27, 2008, 11:46:47 AM3/27/08
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It's not just you. This is also disturbing:


"1. helping individual seniors find solutions to particular problems,
through referrals to community resources, to members of our barter
group, and the like. There is a vast array of community resources for
seniors and we show you how to tap into it."

BARTER GROUP? "Hey, trade ya this shiny quarter for that silly old ring
you got on..." As to the rest, it sounds like the cult is once again
being parasitic, tapping into community resources they didn't contribute
to. Man, this shit disgusts me on so many levels!

Lermanet.com Exposing the CON for over 10 years!

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Mar 27, 2008, 11:42:01 AM3/27/08
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On Mar 27, 11:46 am, barb <xenub...@netscape.net> wrote:
> Kim P wrote:
> > Out_Of_The_Dark wrote:
> >> This really disgusted me for the mere fact that the public
> >> scientologists had to step in and try to help because the failures of
> >> Scientology left elderly members with little to no planning or
> >> finances. That goes for  Public members, staff members and Sea Org
> >> members. Here's a bit of what they have done over the years and when
> >> their purposes are. Not the 'new body shopping' consultant blurb.
> >> Scientology lunacy at it's best:
...
>
> read more »

I guess they did not attain those super duper OT powers as they had
been led to believe they would. Imagine putting off everything that a
normal prudent person would because you hught one day you would become
an ubermensch.

Yes this is disgusting, but this is $cientology.

Tory told a story of going to meet an old staff member she knew at
AOLA, a lifetime sea org member, when she found her in a seedy old
folks home, she was crying.. saying.. "but I don't know HOW to drop my
body"

Note to any OSA staff reading this:

if you escape Lisa McPherson's end, the above could be your future in
scientology
now look at that picture of Hubbard or Miscavige and shout:

Hip Hip Hurray!
Hip Hip Hurray!
Hop Skip Away!
from $cientology.
TODAY..

regards
Arnie Lerma
tel: 703-241-1498
http://ocmb.lermanet.us/discussion/viewtopic.php?t=381
http://www.Lermanet.com Exposing the CON
WE COME BACK
for our friends and family
to get them out of scientology
before they end up here:
http://www.whyaretheydead.net

Hey kids, LAUGH at Scientology today!
http://www.lermanet.us/SPEpisode912TrappedintheCloset.rm

Tom N

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Mar 27, 2008, 1:54:31 PM3/27/08
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On Mar 26, 8:48 pm, Out_Of_The_Dark <xscilentolog...@yahoo.com> wrote:
> This really disgusted me for the mere fact that the public
> scientologists had to step in and try to help because the failures of
> Scientology left elderly members with little to no planning or
> finances.

Sorry. I don't believe you. You are clearly established as an anti-
Scientology
fanatic who will not hesitate to lie in order to harm the Church of
Scientology.

Even if your assertions have some truth in them, this sort of thing is
hardly limited to any one organization. There are scores of millions
of seniors all over the U.S. and Europe and the Commonwealth who
are wards of the State because the companies and organizations
they belonged to didn't provide them with adequate retirements.

So you are presenting a distorted picture at best, deliberately,
because you aren't interested in helping these seniors at all,
you are just interested in hurting the Church of Scientology.

You are disgusting, you filthy, lying, deceiving bigot.

<snip>

Tom Newton

jeffrey...@gmail.com

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Mar 27, 2008, 2:06:05 PM3/27/08
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Come to the Church of Scientology, where for just $150,000, you, too,
can make baseless assertions and pass them off as fact, just like our
glorious leader Ron Hubbard!

I'm disappointed. You'd think with as much as you have to pay for
brainwashing services they'd at least teach you elementary logic.

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