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Extremely suspicious police behavior in Atlanta

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henri

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Mar 15, 2008, 3:09:55 PM3/15/08
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On the channels, I've seen some reports of very odd behavior
by the Atlanta Police, including carting off a couple protesters,
being overtly intimidating, and pulling over motorists who honk
or express approval of the protests.

Any ideas as to whether there's a corrupt process going on here,
and if so, who is responsible? It seems to deserve investigation.

Ramona

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Mar 15, 2008, 3:13:51 PM3/15/08
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Atlanta police corrupt? Are you kidding?!! It is very corrupt, plus
top it off with very bad tornadic weather today and you get very
irritable. Wish I could be there. The unconfirmed info was that two
were arrested for noise ordinance violations.

Ramona

Anonology

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Mar 15, 2008, 3:15:48 PM3/15/08
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On Mar 15, 3:09 pm, henri <he...@nowhere.com> wrote:

there was a tornado that hit downtown Atlanta last night... police are
advising nobody go into downtown at all...

henri

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Mar 15, 2008, 3:16:58 PM3/15/08
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Anything more? Because I recall last time, they showed up with
horseback riot police and made an utterly disproportionate display
of force. The "natural" reaction to that, assuming they'd been
duped by wild horseshit from the cult, would be not to repeat it.

The fact they're doing the same kind of shit, and have even intensified
the harassment to innocent passersby, indicates something more than
just routine police stupidity.

Ramona

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Mar 15, 2008, 3:22:39 PM3/15/08
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The tornado downtown was indeed last night and many streets are
blocked off. Another tornado hit just west of here a few hours ago.
But, the CO$ is not in those areas.

The atlanta and vicinity cops are notorious for being corrupt. I live
in the area and often hear of people (officers and up) leaving the
force to go to the "big house." http://www.nytimes.com/2007/04/27/us/27atlanta.html?ref=us
Here is only a start. Again VERY corrupt. You do know that even the
former major lives in one of those special 3 square meal a day
residences?

Ramona

Ramona

henri

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Mar 15, 2008, 3:29:53 PM3/15/08
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I'd forgotten that, but it fits in with what I've heard about Atlanta in
general. This seems, though, like they've been specifically corrupted
by SCIENTOLOGY. If so, there's probably a point or points of contact,
and perhaps that person or person's position is precarious already.

Ramona

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Mar 15, 2008, 3:38:07 PM3/15/08
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On Mar 15, 3:29 pm, henri <he...@nowhere.com> wrote:

> On Sat, 15 Mar 2008 12:22:39 -0700 (PDT), Ramona <atlram...@gmail.com> wrote:
> >On Mar 15, 3:15 pm, Anonology <shroomiga...@yahoo.com> wrote:
> >> On Mar 15, 3:09 pm, henri <he...@nowhere.com> wrote:
> >> > On the channels, I've seen some reports of very odd behavior
> >> > by the Atlanta Police, including carting off a couple protesters,
> >> > being overtly intimidating, and pulling over motorists who honk
> >> > or express approval of the protests.
> >> > Any ideas as to whether there's a corrupt process going on here,
> >> > and if so, who is responsible? It seems to deserve investigation.
> >> there was a tornado that hit downtown Atlanta last night... police are
> >> advising nobody go into downtown at all...
> >The tornado downtown was indeed last night and many streets are
> >blocked off. Another tornado hit just west of here a few hours ago.
> >But, the CO$ is not in those areas.
> >The atlanta and vicinity cops are notorious for being corrupt. I live
> >in the area and often hear of people (officers and up) leaving the
> >force to go to the "big house." http://www.nytimes.com/2007/04/27/us/27atlanta.html?ref=us
> >Here is only a start. Again VERY corrupt. You do know that even the
> >former major lives in one of those special 3 square meal a day
> >residences?
>
> I'd forgotten that, but it fits in with what I've heard about Atlanta in
> general. This seems, though, like they've been specifically corrupted
> by SCIENTOLOGY.

It's a "show me the money" police force. Back to the
basement....tornado stuff again.

R

Kim P

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Mar 15, 2008, 6:54:24 PM3/15/08
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I am wondering if it has to do with the tornado last night? Maybe a
protest was just too much for the cops to have to deal with after the
storm hit?

Just thinking out loud...tired just got back from Toronto protest which
was great - around 300 people give or take and scientology shut right up
with all the windows covered to hide from the entheta.

Was a good protest - more later

Kim P

ethercat

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Mar 15, 2008, 7:04:49 PM3/15/08
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There was indeed some suspicious behavior on the part of the police
today. First, let me make clear that it is not the Atlanta police we
are dealing with, but the DeKalb County police. This is not to say
the Atlanta police are clean, but just to clarify that the "Atlanta
org" is in unincorporated DeKalb County, so their police are the ones
we are speaking of.

The riot squad was there again. I had called a Sgt. J. Smith, of
the North Precinct on Monday, to make sure they had been notified, and
whether we needed a permit. He had told me that they had been
notified, and that as long as it would be similar to the last one,
that we wouldn't be blocking off the street, or going into the street
to march, that we did not need a permit. I searched on municode.com
in the DeKalb County laws, and could not find any indication that we
needed a permit, unless we were a "parade."

A couple of the Anons were using a bullhorn and, apparently, that
was what got them arrested, though I do not know for sure. The police
must have had the party van behind the org, so those arrested were
walked past the entrance to the org.

After that, anyone who honked in support was pulled over by a
seemingly endless supply of motorcycle police. Ditto, anyone who
slowed down to look at our signs, or to take a flyer.

Toward the end of the picket, two of the police came over and spoke
to a crowd of anons. I had made it a point not to cluster into a
crowd, preferring to be in the open in case anything happened, I was
visible, so I didn't hear what he had to say. He asked for a "leader"
and someone who has been calling himself "Atlanta SP" on
enturbulation.org stepped forth. I have never heard of, or met, and
didn't recognize this guy, who claims to be "declared SP6." He went
across the street and spoke to the police. Then we were told that we
needed to tell them when we were leaving, and that we would have to
leave a few at a time, because if we all left together, we would be
considered to be having a parade without a permit.

I told an anon with a louder voice than I have that it had been
Sgt. J. Smith I had talked to, and the Captain (don't have a name yet)
said that he had exceeded his authority (or words to that effect).

Wynot and I left soon after that. I may have more to say in a
report later, but wanted to answer this post now.

ethercat

P.S. Ramona, will you please email me?

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ethercat

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Mar 15, 2008, 7:09:14 PM3/15/08
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On Sat, 15 Mar 2008 19:04:49 -0400, ethercat <ethe...@ethercat.com>
wrote:

> After that, anyone who honked in support was pulled over by a
>seemingly endless supply of motorcycle police. Ditto, anyone who
>slowed down to look at our signs, or to take a flyer.

I forgot to add that some quick-thinking anons made signs that said
"Don't honk!" for each end of the street, to keep the innocent
citizens from being cited for supporting our cause.

ethercat

cultxpt

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Mar 15, 2008, 9:07:15 PM3/15/08
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On Mar 15, 12:09 pm, henri <he...@nowhere.com> wrote:
> On the channels, I've seen some reports of very odd behavior
> by theAtlantaPolice, including carting off a couple protesters,

> being overtly intimidating, and pulling over motorists who honk
> or express approval of the protests.
>
> Any ideas as to whether there's a corrupt process going on here,
> and if so, who is responsible?  It seems to deserve investigation.

http://picasaweb.google.com/IgnatiousjReilly/ScientologyProtestInAtlantaMarch15

Why do they think they need a riot squad to cover peaceful protesters?
Who has the ear of the Atlanta police that is feeding them crap?

henri

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Mar 15, 2008, 9:14:52 PM3/15/08
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>http://picasaweb.google.com/IgnatiousjReilly/ScientologyProtestInAtlantaMarch15

They were present with horseback riot cops last time, too, so they were
obviously aware by the time this protest rolled around that the protesters
were harmless.

The natural response would have been to scale back a useless expenditure
of police resources. Instead, they ramped up the harassment, and even
started harassing innocent motorists who so much as slowed down to
read the signs, or honked in approval.

There's something fishy going on. I do not believe this is either routine
police stupidity or incompetence.

Anonymo...@gmail.com

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Mar 15, 2008, 10:01:17 PM3/15/08
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> I told an anon with a louder voice than I have that it had been
> Sgt. J. Smith I had talked to, and the Captain (don't have a name yet)
> said that he had exceeded his authority (or words to that effect).

Sgt. J. Smith is the Administrative Sgt for DCPD North Precinct.

Captain M. Yarbrough is the Assistant Precinct Commander

http://www.dekalbpolice.com/precincts_north.html

Here is various contact info if anyone wants to get in touch.


North Precinct (across from Perimeter Mall)
4453 Ashford Dunwoody Road
Atlanta, GA 30346
404-297-3950 & Fax 404-297-3863

Precinct Commander, Major D.B. Calhoun
dbca...@co.dekalb.ga.us

Asst. Precinct Commander, Captain M.P. Yarbrough
mpyar...@co.dekalb.ga.us

Business Relations MPO W.L. Swann 404-294-2673 d
ekalbpol...@yahoo.com

Public Education Specialist, Al Fowler 404-294-2558
alfo...@co.dekalb.ga.us

404-297-2000 Police Services Information
404-294-2858 Crime Prevention / Neighborhood Watch
404-294-2625 Criminal Investigations / Detectives
404-294-2911 Non Emergency Number

ethercat

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Mar 15, 2008, 10:16:07 PM3/15/08
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On Sat, 15 Mar 2008 19:01:17 -0700 (PDT), Anonymo...@gmail.com
wrote:

Thank you for this information.

ethercat

Anonymo...@gmail.com

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Mar 15, 2008, 10:33:18 PM3/15/08
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On Mar 15, 9:16 pm, ethercat <ether...@ethercat.com> wrote:

>
> Thank you for this information.
>

Quite welcome. The super powers of my Internet-Thetan are at your
disposal. ;)

BigBeard

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Mar 15, 2008, 10:39:22 PM3/15/08
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"henri" <he...@nowhere.com> wrote in message
news:c1tot3th4qf9js3v4...@4ax.com...

Were these "off duty" cops being paid for their time by Cof$, or were
they there on an "assigned duty" basis??

It could be the difference in how they were behaving.

BigBeard
Katana ko chi, SPsoo

Anonymo...@gmail.com

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Mar 15, 2008, 11:14:47 PM3/15/08
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Could someone cross-post the contact info to the similar thread at
OCMB please?

Gregg Hagglund

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Mar 16, 2008, 12:17:31 AM3/16/08
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On Sat, 15 Mar 2008 18:07:15 -0700 (PDT), cultxpt <cul...@gmail.com>
wrote:

>On Mar 15, 12:09 pm, henri <he...@nowhere.com> wrote:

This is an example of the "bonuses for arrests" contracts C0$ signs
with hires in the US.

IMHO Atlanta will need to get a lawyer (ACLU) and file an injunction
against police overstepping their bounds.
The no permit advice given was an obvious set up.

Shameful and overt corruption of police.
I hope the local media rip them a new one.

GH SP7

realpch

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Mar 15, 2008, 6:01:00 PM3/15/08
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One way or another, the police would seem to have been of the opinion
that it was incumbent upon themselves to provide some value for the
expenditure. Silly waste!

Perhaps practicing for the day the oil runs out...

Peach
--
Extra! Extra! Read All About It!
Save some dough, save some grief:
http://www.xenu.net
http://www.scientology-lies.com

Ramona

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Mar 16, 2008, 8:02:44 AM3/16/08
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On Mar 16, 12:17 am, Gregg Hagglund <elro...@cogeco.ca> wrote:
> On Sat, 15 Mar 2008 18:07:15 -0700 (PDT), cultxpt <cult...@gmail.com>

> wrote:
>
> >On Mar 15, 12:09 pm, henri <he...@nowhere.com> wrote:
> >> On the channels, I've seen some reports of very odd behavior
> >> by theAtlantaPolice, including carting off a couple protesters,
> >> being overtly intimidating, and pulling over motorists who honk
> >> or express approval of the protests.
>
> >> Any ideas as to whether there's a corrupt process going on here,
> >> and if so, who is responsible? It seems to deserve investigation.
>
> >http://picasaweb.google.com/IgnatiousjReilly/ScientologyProtestInAtla...

>
> >Why do they think they need a riot squad to cover peaceful protesters?
> >Who has the ear of the Atlanta police that is feeding them crap?
>
> This is an example of the "bonuses for arrests" contracts C0$ signs
> with hires in the US.
>
> IMHO Atlanta will need to get a lawyer (ACLU) and file an injunction
> against police overstepping their bounds.
> The no permit advice given was an obvious set up.
>
> Shameful and overt corruption of police.
> I hope the local media rip them a new one.
>
> GH SP7

Here are the names I wrote to at the AJC, Atlanta Journal
Constitution:
jdwa...@ajc.com,
insi...@ajc.com,
news...@ajc.com,
jmal...@ajc.com,
ml...@ajc.com,
lco...@ajc.com,
ghan...@ajc.com,

Tom N

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Mar 16, 2008, 8:59:32 AM3/16/08
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On Mar 15, 12:09 pm, henri <he...@nowhere.com> wrote:
> On the channels, I've seen some reports of very odd behavior
> by the Atlanta Police, including carting off a couple protesters,
> being overtly intimidating, and pulling over motorists who honk
> or express approval of the protests.

Nothing odd about that. What the hell makes you think you
are welcome in these communities?

Not many people want freaks wearing masks running around
preaching hatred.

Duh.

>
> Any ideas as to whether there's a corrupt process going on here,
> and if so, who is responsible? It seems to deserve investigation.

You need a psychologist to investigate what remains of your mind.

> Subject: Extremely suspicious police behavior in Atlanta

Let's talk about "suspicious behavior".

Do you think that just maybe a bunch of people hiding behind
halloween masks and waving signs that are either non-sensical
to the average person, or obviously preaching hatred of a religious
minority, harassing an organization that has never seriously bothered
anyone in the community it has long resided in, might qualify as
"suspicious behavior"?

I mean, just how stupid ARE you people?

Infinitely, apparently.

Tom Newton

--
calhobbit (at) | The Truth will set you free:
gmail [DOT] com | http://www.sethcenter.com

Skipper

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Mar 16, 2008, 9:04:20 AM3/16/08
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In article
<7d840f7f-5850-4775...@e10g2000prf.googlegroups.com>,
Tom N <simple...@gmail.com> wrote:

> Not many people want freaks wearing masks running around
> preaching hatred.
>
> Duh.

Hey, welfare Alan. Nobody did that. Duh.

Is anyone there to wipe the drool off as you type?

Kim P

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Mar 16, 2008, 9:57:17 AM3/16/08
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HAving watched the videos and seen more pictures I agree with you -
there is something off here. Just think now the cult can claim see
there were arrests made at the last picket - we need more protection and
an injunction.

There is just something not right and it smells BAD.

Kim P

Scientology is a cult

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Mar 16, 2008, 9:11:07 AM3/16/08
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Kim P <yduzit...@cogeco.ca> wrote in
news:47dd26fd$1...@news2.lightlink.com:

Corruption is a top-down affair in Dekalb.

http://digg.com/world_news/Dekalb_cops_anonymously_protest_Dekalb_police_
chief


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jerald

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Mar 16, 2008, 10:12:43 AM3/16/08
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The whole thing was odd from the reports and video's I have seen.
They took things way over the line. Pulling people over for
honking? That's been unheard of since the 60's. And the riot ware
was to scare protesters period, not for their own protection.

Maybe next one we all chip and an ask a good lawyer to be there to
represent the picketers on scene.

jerald

Android Cat

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Mar 16, 2008, 11:24:14 AM3/16/08
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Scientology is a cult wrote:
> Kim P <yduzit...@cogeco.ca> wrote in
> news:47dd26fd$1...@news2.lightlink.com:

>> HAving watched the videos and seen more pictures I agree with you -


>> there is something off here. Just think now the cult can claim see
>> there were arrests made at the last picket - we need more protection
>> and an injunction.
>>
>> There is just something not right and it smells BAD.
>
> Corruption is a top-down affair in Dekalb.
>
> http://digg.com/world_news/Dekalb_cops_anonymously_protest_Dekalb_police_
> chief

Un-wrapped link:
http://digg.com/world_news/Dekalb_cops_anonymously_protest_Dekalb_police_chief

Blog that the Digg points to:
http://dekalbofficersspeak.blogspot.com/

Link to story on Chief Bolton in Dallas:
http://www.dallasobserver.com/2003-01-16/news/dallas-chief-problem/

--
Ron of that ilk.

Patm...@yahoo.com

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Mar 17, 2008, 12:37:39 AM3/17/08
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On Mar 16, 10:24 am, "Android Cat" <androidca...@hotmail.com> wrote:
> Scientology is a cult wrote:
>
> > Kim P <yduzitmat...@cogeco.ca> wrote in

> >news:47dd26fd$1...@news2.lightlink.com:
> >> HAving watched the videos and seen more pictures I agree with you -
> >> there is something off here.  Just think now the cult can claim see
> >> there were arrests made at the last picket - we need more protection
> >> and an injunction.
>
> >> There is just something not right and it smells BAD.
>
> > Corruption is a top-down affair in Dekalb.
>
> >http://digg.com/world_news/Dekalb_cops_anonymously_protest_Dekalb_pol...
> > chief
>
> Un-wrapped link:http://digg.com/world_news/Dekalb_cops_anonymously_protest_Dekalb_pol...

>
> Blog that the Digg points to:http://dekalbofficersspeak.blogspot.com/
>
> Link to story on Chief Bolton in Dallas:http://www.dallasobserver.com/2003-01-16/news/dallas-chief-problem/
>
> --
> Ron of that ilk.

Links and videos:
http://dekalbforshame.blogspot.com/

RolandRB

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Mar 17, 2008, 12:49:41 AM3/17/08
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> Katana ko chi, SPsoo- Hide quoted text -
>
> - Show quoted text -

If they marched the two protestors they arrested INTO Org property
then it seems to me that they were cops paid by the Co$.

laure...@hotmail.com

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Mar 24, 2008, 8:10:15 AM3/24/08
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I am thinking that even if they were "on duty" they had to arrest
SOMEONE for SOMETHING due to the fact that the tax payers are paying
for them to stand around looking silly. The guy in charge had to offer
something for his efforts in helping the Co$.

AnonymousNasty

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> something for his efforts in helping the Co$.- Hide quoted text -

>
> - Show quoted text -

KEEP YOUR FRIENDS CLOSE AND YOUR ENEMIES CLOSER IN THIS CASE. A MUST
READ FOR EVERYONE IN ANONYMOUS AND THEIR SUPPORTERS;

Dekalb Officers

This blog page was established so DeKalb County Police Officers
including their family and friends may have a place to hold
discussions, post news and vent without fear of retribution. -Note:
This site is not affiliated with any government entity or law
enforcement agency.

Sunday, March 23, 2008
WeFiveCampers Says;

Word around the campground is Terrell wasn't satisfied with his
Chevrolet Suburban. So he traded up to a Range Rover! I guess soon he
will not be satisfied with the American Eagle ICP Campers and move up
to a Prevost.

If Bolton gets the other 2 campers he wants, do I have to change my
name to WeSevenCampers?

We miss you at the mountain TeBo!

Posted by dekalbofficers at 4:35 PM 0 comments
A Current Vet Responds to Retired Anonymous Vet:

Hey Retired Anonymous Vet, not everyone is getting raises. I've been
around awhile myself and hit the lottery with the Price Waterhouse
Study. But that was when Liane Levitan was CEO. That has been almost 8
years now. And that my friend is when I got my last substantial raise.

No, not the same folks are getting raises. You have Terrell's "Acting
Command Staff" working in higher positions without the pay. You have
Captains doing a Majors duty without the pay; you have Majors doing an
Assistant Chiefs duty without the pay.

Just another way for Bolton to have his little lap dogs jumping around
at his feet, just begging to get promoted. Enough to make you sick!
Some of those men used to have dignity.

Posted by dekalbofficers at 4:20 PM 0 comments
A Retired Anonymous Veteran Comments:

I'm retired but I was one of the "winners" that got all the raises
after the Price Waterhouse study. I cannot believe that they were
giving the same people raises over and over.I started to feel guilty.
From my perspective, DKPD started it's downhill slide after Dick Hand
left. One of the main reasons I took an early retirement was all the
interference from Decatur and the higher command staff didn't have the
gut's to draw the line. DKPD lost a lot of good experience with guy's
that retired early because of interference from Decatur and all the
unnecessary crap that went on...Get some supervisors with gonads and
smarts and start backing the officers instead of all the PR
junk ....start policing with gusto again...It's a war out there! Will
the new CEO have a big security detail like Jones too?

Posted by dekalbofficers at 4:18 PM 0 comments
Get Those Phones Ringing and Those Emails Written March 24, 2008!

Here are the telephone listings and email addresses for all the
commissioners. Be sure you, your family and friends call and/or write
to voice support for an across the board raise for all DeKalb County
police officers. Be sure to show your support in uniform Tuesday March
25, 2008 at the Maloof Building beginning at 9:00 AM.

You can still show your support if you do not live in Dekalb County.
Don't feel alone, only 2 people within the "Executive Command Staff"
live inside DeKalb County. Even the Chief of Police lives in Dallas
Texas!

* Elaine Boyer District 1: 404-371-2844 or njmc...@co.dekalb.ga.us
* Jeff Rader District 2: 404- 371-2863 or jrr...@co.dekalb.ga.us
* Larry Johnson District 3: 404- 371-2425 or
larryj...@co.dekalb.ga.us
* Burrell Ellis District 4: 404-371-4749 or Bur...@BurrellEllis.com
* Lee May: District 5: 404-371-4745 or lm...@co.dekalb.ga.us
* Kathie Gannon Super District 6: 404-371-4909 or
kga...@co.dekalb.ga.us
* Connie Stokes Super District 7: 404-371-3053 or
connie...@co.dekalb.ga.us

Posted by dekalbofficers at 12:09 PM 0 comments
Saturday, March 22, 2008
Anonymous Comments on Fun Run In Rockdale County:

Great job to every officer that ran in the fun run that Rockdale put
on for Barker and Bryant. It was great to see law enforcement get
together for a great cause!
But where were the majority of Dekalb officers and command staff?
where was Bolton?

Posted by dekalbofficers at 7:12 PM 0 comments
What's Wrong With Terrell?

The first 1 minute of the video is just an audible of the breaking
news of Bolton being fired in Dallas. At 1 minute, the video begins
with Bolton addressing the city counsel.


Posted by dekalbofficers at 12:16 PM 1 comments
SHOW THEM WE MEAN IT!


The Board of Commissioners meet Tuesday March 25, 2008. During this
meeting they will address a pay raise for the police department,
either for the MPO's and/or an across the board.

BE THERE IN UNIFORM! Or at least have your friends and families call
your commissioner and Vernon and demand a raise. Even if you live
outside the county (like ALL the Command Staff) you can still call.

Posted by dekalbofficers at 8:00 AM 0 comments
Anonymous Says:

I am so disappointed with our leadership. This new chief we have has
to be the worst we ever had. What is even sadder is I have lost
respect for all of the Chief's administration. All they do is kiss
butt and fail to understand why officers are leaving. You have three
Sergeants who are in the property room because the chief doesn't like
them. 2 of 3 captains in communications because the chief doesn't like
them. Two sergeants in Code enforcement for the same above reasons.
WHY????? TEE BO, I HOPE YOU AND YOUR A#$ KISSERS READ THIS " YOU SUCK
AS A CHIEF!! AND YOUR THE WORST KIND OF HUMAN BEING BY SAYING YOU
WOULD HAVE TAKEN THOSE BULLETS FOR BARKER AND BRYANT. WE ALL KNOW YOUR
A COWARD!!!

Posted by dekalbofficers at 7:13 AM 0 comments
Sgt. Friendly Says:

DeKalb will remain as it is until the officers decide that NO AMOUNT
OF MONEY IS ADEQUATE PAY FOR ENDURING THE FOOLISHNESS AND DANGER THAT
GOES ALONG WITH THAT JOB IN THAT PLACE. The politicians, that
micromanage the department to death, need to leave policing to the
police, and stop being there for their personal enrichment and start
being there for public service. And the public finally needs to get
fed up with being victims of these politicians and criminals and vote
some competence into office. The root core of the problem with the
department does not lie within the department. The fox is watching the
hen house in DeKalb! Do you have an answer to my question?

Posted by dekalbofficers at 7:10 AM 0 comments
Friday, March 21, 2008
Vernon Still Takes Us for Suckers and Still Knowingly Makes False
Statements

In March of 2004, Vernon Jones decided that he would decline a raise
that he wasn't even guaranteed of getting, he called a press
conference in his office and said he was demonstrating "leadership and
sacrifice" by not accepting the pay increase.

Jones would only get the raise if he won reelection, which he did in
the August 2004 Primary (he faced no opposition in the November
General Election) In April 2005, Jones decided to accept his raise
from $99,274 to $144,491 and requested back pay since January, when
the raise was to take affect.

Dunwoody resident Bob Lundsten said then, "I am not really surprised.
Because Mr. Jones has a knack for doing things that always seems to
upset the public,". "What bothers me is that this reversal of decision
and his announcement to take the money is exactly the reason people
across the country do not trust politicians. First, he says back
during the election season that he would not take the raise, removing
it from the politics of re-election. A couple months after during the
budget battles and budget public hearing in Dunwoody, (the CEO's
assistant) Mr. (Richard) Stogner was asked again whether the CEO will
be taking the pay increase and again the answer is no, once again
diffusing a potential political battle."

Lundsten said his argument is not against the salary increase, but the
manner and timing in which Jones took it.

"As an elected public official, there is a level of trust that Mr.
Jones has with the citizens of DeKalb that he must maintain. He broke
that trust," Lundsten said. "He knew his economic situation and
responsibilities when he first refused the raise. He took advantage of
the political benefits of publicly declining the raise and waited till
the season changed. He played us all for suckers."

Mr. Lundsten went on to say; "I really have no issue with the pay
involved since that is what was decided as compensation for the
position," Wright said. "It is not appropriate for me to comment
specifically regarding CEO Jones on this issue but I do not think
politicians should ever make knowingly false statements to the public.
I believe it is paramount that politicians be forthright and honest to
their respective shareholders, the constituents."

Posted by dekalbofficers at 6:59 PM 1 comments
Anonymous Says:

you want to be like the old days??? number #1 next to
CHP????..Remember the perps even told you..don't go to dekalb they
will f%@# you up or you'll be in grady!!!..lets quit being warm kind
and fuzzy...cut the lead off the dogs and lets get back to policing
the way it needs to be...granted we are short...lack of
officers....let the supervisiors handle the complaints at a "common
sense" level and let the officers do thier job....and let training put
better quality grunts through the academy instead of holding a mirror
under thier nose to see if they make fog on the glass!!!..Basic police
101....you want answers??? talk to a veteran officer...they'll tell
you were we need to start!!! before they leave.

Posted by dekalbofficers at 6:44 PM 0 comments
Veteran Officer Says:

J.T,

Congrats on the new assignment with John's Creek.

Congrats to John's Creek.... You've obviously recognized quality that
Dekalb has not. I'm sure J.T. is not coming alone.

I hope Dunwoody is taking notes.

Like I've said before....Dekalb has become a training ground for the
feds and the local departments around us. Your relatively high badge
number bears that out.

When will Dekalb realize they're letting a good department leave one
officer at a time?

Officers are putting in their required year and a half to two years
and leaving.

Please, give us the leadership and resources that were once the norm.

Posted by dekalbofficers at 1:34 PM 1 comments
Anonymous Says:

I wish the department could return to that time of greatness. What a
wonderful place to work. If people will wake up and realized it's not
the pay but the leadership that we have in place for the leaving and
demised. Like that Officer who is leaving, you can tell it was a hard
choice for him to make. He probably was one of the best we had working
here. I hope 2009 will make this place a turn around department. We
need new non-political leadership.

Posted by dekalbofficers at 1:30 PM 0 comments
Sgt. Friendly Says:

A question was raised many years ago about the conditions within the
DeKalb County Police Department and no one had a decent answer. Maybe
now is the time for this question to be answered fully. As posed
several years ago, the question was:

"How do you take the number one (1) department on the entire east
coast, and the number two (2) department in the entire nation (second
only to LAPD) and, in a matter of just a very few years, bring it to
the point where it is today?"

Now don't tell me that the DeKalb County Police Department is better
than it was a few years ago. I know better. I was there. High pay,
high morale, top of the line equipment, knowledgeable and supportive
supervisors (all the way up the line), officers who relied on their
abilities as a Police Officer..........not entirely on technology to
make good cases, and a spirit of camaraderie unequaled in any
department in the southeast. All these things left the DeKalb County
Police Department several years ago and they will not return under
these conditions. Now answer me................why?

Posted by dekalbofficers at 6:51 AM 2 comments
Thursday, March 20, 2008
DeKalb audit find firms got paid far more than contracts allowed
(Link)

Somebody needs to go to prison! Our computer and radio system are in
shambles. Instead of stepping forward with technology, we are leaping
backwards. We need an investigation on the ground within the police
department. Shouldn't take long before the indictments and pleas
bargains come forth.
Of course Bolton would never allow an independent audit or even an
federal investigation into the handling our computer systems. Why are
self taught master police officers running the show? We can have
preachers and lawyers on the payroll, but why not professional I.T.
people?

Posted by dekalbofficers at 7:01 PM 1 comments

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