The Profit movie - Early reviews
JAFAW
"This is a bad b-movie, I mean really bad. I'm not sure if I can actually
watch the whole thing."
- Skeptic1337
Michael Pattinson
This user usually has a bad opinion of a lot of things IMHO
;-)
He is a skeptic after all...
lol
John Dorsay
Shitty movie is shitty. Torrent doesn't fix that.
John
EvilZoe
I thought it was made pretty clear that the movie wasn't a great
one...lol
That doesn't mean I don't want to see it.
JAFAW
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> "This is a bad b-movie, I mean really bad. I'm not sure if I can actually
> watch the whole thing."
> - Skeptic1337
>
>
"So bad its good"? Like an ed-wood thing?
"No... more like Michael Bay's shit, only worse.
Seriously.
Worse than Armageddon.
And on other notes, worse than Doomsday and VanHelsing... COMBINED!"
- Deadface
These reviews so far just makes me really, really want to see for myself how
bad it is.
JAFAW
"I don't think you are being harsh enough as to the utter suck that is this
movie.
I had to watch it once just to see it and shall never.
Still seeding it for another week but after that this fucker is gone from my
drives and I shall dance with joy.
Yes it's so bad you actually have to judge for your self, but don't say you
haven't been warned."
- Skeptic1337
;)
cultxpt
But the mental patient; his timing, emotion, and pathos was something
else huh?
John Dorsay
Only part of the movie worth watching.
(Yes, I know)
John
JAFAW
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That has to be one of the biggest driving forces for downloading the movie.
How could we possibly miss your scenes ;).
EvilZoe
I will watch the movie in anticipation simply because I wish to see
you with hot nurse...lol
xenu...@gmail.com
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PEOPLE PLEASE!!! THIS IS NOT ABOUT REVIEWING A MOVIE!!!!
IT'S ABOUT GETTING A MOVIE OUT THERE THAT THE SCILONS DIDNT WANT YOU
TO HAVE -
OWN IT - SEED IT -
DONT EVEN WATCH IT......
JUST LET THE SCILONS SPEND MANY MORE MILLIIONS TO TRY TO DISCREDIT
IT!!!!
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Opti
whatever...I liked the 8 minute trailer i saw.
JAFAW
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DONT EVEN WATCH IT......
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This thread is about reviewing the movie, and is titled as such.
You are asking the impossible, that is, for people to shut up.
EvilZoe
Dude, relax.
Who the fuck cares if some of us watch it? Besides, I like to see my
friends in movies, regardless of how bad...lol
formerlyfooled
You can't force people to like something. Every parent learns that
lesson quickly.
Mark Bunker
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> > "JAFAW" <a...@anon.net> wrote in message
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> > > "This is a bad b-movie, I mean really bad. I'm not sure if I can
> actually
> > > watch the whole thing."
> > > - Skeptic1337
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> > "So bad its good"? Like an ed-wood thing?
>
> > "No... more like Michael Bay's shit, only worse.
> > Seriously.
> > Worse than Armageddon.
> > And on other notes, worse than Doomsday and VanHelsing... COMBINED!"
> > - Deadface
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> > These reviews so far just makes me really, really want to see for myself
> how
> > bad it is.
>
> "I don't think you are being harsh enough as to the utter suck that is this
> movie.
> I had to watch it once just to see it and shall never.
> Still seeding it for another week but after that this fucker is gone from my
> drives and I shall dance with joy.
> Yes it's so bad you actually have to judge for your self, but don't say you
> haven't been warned."
> - Skeptic1337
>
>
> - Show quoted text -
Clearly what people are downloading is a 3rd generation AVID copy of
the movie that does not do justice to the sheer poetry of the
filmmaking.
If you saw a first generation version, you'd realize the writing,
acting and direction are all genius.
Especially the mental patient. Bravo, Mr. Patient!
Mark Bunker
Welcome to "Inside the Extra's Studio" where tonight our stage is
graced by one of the cinema's shining stars, whose performance as a
patient locked inside an institution made seemingly of cardboard walls
brings a First Generation brilliance to a Third Generation movie.
Master Jacobsen, we await your response to the questions first posed
by my mentor Bernard Pivot:
1. What is your favorite word?
2. What is your least favorite word.
3. What sound do you love?
4. What sound do you hate?
5. Should Marcabian Implant Stations exist on Mars or on Venus, what
would you like to hear Xenu say as he straps you into a theater seat
to watch the continuous screening of "The Profit" for three straight
days?
EvilZoe
LOL!
You're so fucking awesome, Mark....hehehe
Opti
atrocity. That for the 10 million dollar budget, they could have and
should have gotten a much better film. Actually, I am pretty sure he
said that live. Not in those exact words, but you get gist of what I
am saying.
xenu...@gmail.com
THE MOVIE IS OUT!!!!
BIG TIME!!!!
WHO CARES ABOUT WHAT ANYONE THINKS!!!
JAFAW
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Oooo you are such a card ;)
feministe
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> "This is a bad b-movie, I mean really bad. I'm not sure if I can actually
> watch the whole thing."
> - Skeptic1337
>
>
I was not of this opinion :m methinks it's a good education film, but
probably not a "all-public" one unless presented by some knowing person.
That could perhaps be used by adding at some choosen scenes a short
explanation or witnessing of such and such aspects.
r
Alexia Death
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> THE MOVIE IS OUT!!!!
>
> BIG TIME!!!!
>
> WHO CARES ABOUT WHAT ANYONE THINKS!!!
It is out! And so it is a WIN if many people review it even if they
say it SUCKS! :) Being bad is no cause to allow censorship :) And
being censored is no cause to assume its good:)
Alexia Death
> "JAFAW" <a...@anon.net> a écrit dans le message denews:VX_Ej.1120$4f4...@newsfe6-win.ntli.net...
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>
>
> > "This is a bad b-movie, I mean really bad. I'm not sure if I can actually
> > watch the whole thing."
> > - Skeptic1337
>
> I was not of this opinion :m methinks it's a good education film, but
> probably not a "all-public" one unless presented by some knowing person.
> That could perhaps be used by adding at some choosen scenes a short
> explanation or witnessing of such and such aspects.
>
> r
I suspect the good bits will surface on youtube in no time part of
various anon productions :)
OldRookie
JAFAW
"feministe" <femi...@free.fr> wrote in message
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All reviews, good or bad are welcome.
barb
It's the thought that counts.
--
Barb
Chaplain, ARSCC (wdne)
I can haz Legion?
“I think that the protections that we enjoy for freedom of worship exist
so long as we don’t step over the line. When religious worship and
belief cross over into things like fraud, victimization of others and
the disruption of the political arena, that protection is no longer
appropriate.”
--Robert Goff
Professor Emeritus, UCSC
John Dorsay
> John Dorsay wrote:
>> JAFAW wrote:
>>> "This is a bad b-movie, I mean really bad. I'm not sure if I can
>>> actually
>>> watch the whole thing."
>>> - Skeptic1337
>>
>> Shitty movie is shitty. Torrent doesn't fix that.
>>
>>
>>
>> John
>>
>
> It's the thought that counts.
Yeah :)
VWD Anon!
John
cultxpt
>
> > On Mar 21, 8:22 pm, "JAFAW" <a...@anon.net> wrote:
>
> > > "This is a bad b-movie, I mean really bad. I'm not sure if I can actually
> > > watch the whole thing."
> > > - Skeptic1337
>
> > But the mental patient; his timing, emotion, and pathos was something
> > else huh?
>
> Welcome to "Inside the Extra's Studio" where tonight our stage is
> graced by one of the cinema's shining stars, whose performance as a
> patient locked inside an institution made seemingly of cardboard walls
> brings a First Generation brilliance to a Third Generation movie.
>
> Master Jacobsen, we await your response to the questions first posed
> by my mentor Bernard Pivot:
>
> 1. What is your favorite word?
squish
>
> 2. What is your least favorite word.
were
>
> 3. What sound do you love?
>
Something being squished
> 4. What sound do you hate?
the door to my room being locked from the outside.
>
> 5. Should Marcabian Implant Stations exist on Mars or on Venus, what
> would you like to hear Xenu say as he straps you into a theater seat
> to watch the continuous screening of "The Profit" for three straight
> days?
If you want more popcorn, just ask.
Gertie
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> > > "This is a bad b-movie, I mean really bad. I'm not sure if I can
> actually
> > > watch the whole thing."
> > > - Skeptic1337
>
> > I was not of this opinion :m methinks it's a good education film, but
> > probably not a "all-public" one unless presented by some knowing person.
> > That could perhaps be used by adding at some choosen scenes a short
> > explanation or witnessing of such and such aspects.
>
> > r
>
> All reviews, good or bad are welcome.
Eurythmics, boobies, gay kissin' -- there's something for everyone --
what's not to love?
scientol...@live.com
> I suspect the good bits will surface on youtube in no time part of
> various anon productions :)
Skipper
<f8938cbc-e90f-4a1d...@i7g2000prf.googlegroups.com>,
<scientol...@live.com> wrote:
I love this one. Jesse Prince cameo, Jack Parsons and Satan, and
Elwrong at his complete most evilness AND impotent.
LULZ
Eldon
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>
>
> > "This is a bad b-movie, I mean really bad. I'm not sure if I can actually
> > watch the whole thing."
> > - Skeptic1337
>
>
> "No... more like Michael Bay's shit, only worse.
> Seriously.
> Worse than Armageddon.
> And on other notes, worse than Doomsday and VanHelsing... COMBINED!"
> - Deadface
>
> These reviews so far just makes me really, really want to see for myself how
> bad it is.
Well, I just got through the fourth YouTube segment (of eight I see on
the list so far. I thought it picked up pretty nicely there starting
with the scene where he hypnotized the lady psychologist and stole her
notes ;-)
Out_Of_The_Dark
>
> - Show quoted text -
Glad you posted this. I'm catching it at youtubes now as a result.
So much quicker and safer.
Mary
barb
It can't possibly be as bad as Battlefield Earth!
jackson.vane
something worse than fail.
Eldon
> Alexia Death wrote:
> > On Mar 22, 9:28 am, xenu1...@gmail.com wrote:
> >> THE MOVIE IS OUT!!!!
>
> >> BIG TIME!!!!
>
> >> WHO CARES ABOUT WHAT ANYONE THINKS!!!
>
> > It is out! And so it is a WIN if many people review it even if they
> > say it SUCKS! :) Being bad is no cause to allow censorship :) And
> > being censored is no cause to assume its good:)
>
> It can't possibly be as bad as Battlefield Earth!
No way. In fact, I thought certain bits were pretty good. The script
and editing sort of lag and drag half the time, but it wasn't all that
badly done in my opinion.
Not sure the autobiographical narrative was appropriate. That sort of
continually got in the way for me.
butterflygrrrl
> > 1. What is your favorite word?
> squish
> > 2. What is your least favorite word.
> were
> > 3. What sound do you love?
> Something being squished
> > 4. What sound do you hate?
> the door to my room being locked from the outside.
> > 5. Should Marcabian Implant Stations exist on Mars or on Venus, what
> > would you like to hear Xenu say as he straps you into a theater seat
> > to watch the continuous screening of "The Profit" for three straight
> > days?
> If you want more popcorn, just ask.
Ohmigosh, I nearly peed myself laughing!
Good one!
Fredric L. Rice
>"This is a bad b-movie, I mean really bad. I'm not sure if I can actually
>watch the whole thing."
>- Skeptic1337
LOL! The usual response is "so?" The whole swatting point was to
underscore the insanity of L. Ron Hubbard and his fellow gangsters.
1337, by the way, is short hand for "elite" -- a hacker wannabe.
---
Anonymous = Herd of Cats Latched on to the Same Wildebeest
Skipper
<FR...@SkepticTank.Org> wrote:
> "JAFAW" <an...@anon.net> wrote:
>
> >"This is a bad b-movie, I mean really bad. I'm not sure if I can actually
> >watch the whole thing."
> >- Skeptic1337
>
> LOL! The usual response is "so?" The whole swatting point was to
> underscore the insanity of L. Ron Hubbard and his fellow gangsters.
>
> 1337, by the way, is short hand for "elite" -- a hacker wannabe.
I thought what bit I saw of it was great. No name actors, not a studio
production, but very good production value and a decent enough script
that is apparently telling a big story in nice shorthand.
Out_Of_The_Dark
> On Mar 21, 8:22 pm, "JAFAW" <a...@anon.net> wrote:
>
> > "This is a bad b-movie, I mean really bad. I'm not sure if I can actually
> > watch the whole thing."
> > - Skeptic1337
>
> else huh?
So fun to see you, Minton & Jesse.
Jeff, you did an excellent job as Mr Williams!! Jesse Prince as Mr
Johnson Minton were very good, too! Who was Mr Simmons?, lol!
Lulu Belle
> "This is a bad b-movie, I mean really bad. I'm not sure if I can actually
> watch the whole thing."
> - Skeptic1337
http://ocmb.xenu.net/ocmb/viewtopic.php?t=26368&postorder=asc&start=75
Well, folks, The Profit is undoubtedly a terrible movie on many fronts
- but all that aside - the laughable truth is that - (as pointed out
above) - had the cult left it alone, it would have died a death in the
cinemas and nobody, but nobody, would ever have heard of it.
But no! The cult has a serious footbullet dependency issue so here we
are again with a YAF - Yet Another Footbullet. No one is pretending
that this is anything but an appalling piece of film-making - it's not
even badly funny enough to achieve "cult" status à la Ed Wood. The
lulz in downloading this and spreading it around are based purely on
the fact that it was heavily opposed by the cult of Scientology - and
spreading it around will piss off David "Fecal" Miscavige . Talk about
Karma. Talk about being the effect of anything you resist (Lafatty
doctrine). So here we have another example of the cult unimaginatively
following the book of rools: "Always attack, never defend." If only
Lafatty had written some policy saying: "Take a chill-pill and
forgeddaboudit." This actually would have been the correct course of
action at the time.
The Profit could have taken an amusing turn here if L. Conrad Powers
had formed SMERSH, put his pinky to his mouth and demanded "One
Million dollars" or... "I will unleash Scientology on the world." Oh
God! Pay up quick! Anything but that! But it's not that kind of movie.
The leader of SciMind, L. Conrad Powers, is vaguely psychotic and
fraudulent - but nothing in this movie really conveys the actual
dirtbag that was L. Ron Hubbard in terms of charisma, hypnotic powers,
greed, manipulation, paranoia, criminality and general insanity.
Having said all that - there is ample material here for memes and lulz
- and I'm sure many will follow.
"I think we're not supposed to read it."
"What, our dicks are going to fall off?"
With the TobleRon-meter they can... "conquer the whole planet - just
like the aliens."
"The tech is true, the tech is true, the tech is true..."
So, mostly very yawn - but if you're high on 'shrooms or Jamaican
horticultural products, you might get some laughs.
JAFAW
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Iggy
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On Mar 21, 11:24 pm, EvilZoe <evil...@gmail.com> wrote:
> On Mar 21, 11:10 pm, cultxpt <cult...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> > On Mar 21, 8:22 pm, "JAFAW" <a...@anon.net> wrote:
>
> > > "This is a bad b-movie, I mean really bad. I'm not sure if I can
> > > actually
> > > watch the whole thing."
> > > - Skeptic1337
>
> > else huh?
>
> you with hot nurse...lol
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PEOPLE PLEASE!!! THIS IS NOT ABOUT REVIEWING A MOVIE!!!!
IT'S ABOUT GETTING A MOVIE OUT THERE THAT THE SCILONS DIDNT WANT YOU
TO HAVE -
OWN IT - SEED IT -
DONT EVEN WATCH IT......
JUST LET THE SCILONS SPEND MANY MORE MILLIIONS TO TRY TO DISCREDIT
IT!!!!
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Oh, shut the fuck up. Who made you King Kritic? It's none of your business
who does/does not watch it....nor is it your job to make sure everyone seeds
it.
Now, back to your regularly scheduled YouTube broadcast.....lol
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Ramona
> It's not as bad as Battlefield Earth. That movie was made of
> something worse than fail.
NOTHING can be as bad as Battlefield Earth!
The Rocky Horror Picture Show was awful as a movie, but I must have
seen it a million times in the theater for all the audience
participation...self included. Perhaps "The Profit" just needs some
anonymous "audience" participation...cult classic little extras?
Ramona
cultxpt
Yeah! When you see me on screen yell "Give him an Oscar!"
I'll never understand why they cut out the babe nurse that was
escorting me. But Peter for whatever reason prefered a critic cameo
over a hot nurse. Perhaps it is such decisions that led to the film's
demise. Alas.
Out_Of_The_Dark
> "This is a bad b-movie, I mean really bad. I'm not sure if I can actually
> watch the whole thing."
> - Skeptic1337
The movie is alot better than the recent reviews imply. I also see
that quite a few of the anons were giving it a 3 out of 5 until the
bashing began.
I think there are 2 different audiences the movie plays to and those
unaware of the history of scientology will look at it as more
interesting and more believable than those with knowledge of the real
history.
Those who experienced scientology and know the history will
understandably be observant of the fact that it's not all about
scientology and some will start nit picking it apart to isolate what
was and was not true. On the other hand, the unacquainted won't be
distracted by those kinds of details but may actually come away
believing that it is a nonfiction account.
The important thing to remember is that it's geared to inform the
public in a fictionalized way of how Hubbard managed to begin and
expand dianetics and scientology while he himself was a nutcase and a
fraud. That is a good thing.
Even though not all the info is factual, much of it is. We know that.
But it's presented in a fictinalized way and that is the genius of
this film. The end result is that the general origin and facts about
Hubbard and his religion are exposed to a larger audience.
I also think the actors overall did a good job. Rath for the most part
pulled it off well as Powers. He certainly was not Hubbard but he was
not hired to be. For us former members watching it, we need see it
from the perspective of the message, not the perspective of man
Hubbard. This is NOT a documentary and should not be criticized as
one. It should also not be pushed as being all about Hubbard and
scientology because it's not. The background on Hubbard is more real
in the movie than the SciMind organization is of Scientology.
I think Arnie Lerma is going to get alot more support from lurkers and
Anons for his 'scientology is hypnosis' theories & posts; far more
than the Buttersquashers ever imagined since they traditionally and
deliberately mocked them in the past.
Of course there were lulz.. this is my fav:
"With the TobleRon-meter they can... "conquer the whole planet - just
like the aliens." " vongole OCMB
Someone posted at the profit website asking about one and if he could
make the video available from his web site. I researched it and I
couldn't find a copyright on the motion picture itself. Peter,
however, is listed as copyright holder on the screenplay alone. Did
someone forget to do their paperwork? I also expected but didn't see
credit for the Eurythmics' 'Sweet Dreams' which really was a catch.
Lastly, were the scenes with Dandar and Oliver edited out or do I have
to look closer. I saw the back of Frank's head and that was it.
On the rest of the film, I reserve judgement for a better time and
place. I'm glad its out and look forward to seeing where the fallout
occurs.
Mary
Lulu Belle
Mary,
You have written the most favorable review of this movie I have seen
to date.
Oh, the irony, :)
Lermanet.com Exposing the CON for over 10 years!
> JAFAW wrote:
> > "This is a bad b-movie, I mean really bad. I'm not sure if I can actually
> > watch the whole thing."
> > - Skeptic1337
>
>
> John
Right John, it is shitty...end The Bridge wasn't shitty like this
The actors did not get paid, they were 'paid' on promises..
of 'residuals'..
I worked for TFC at an Amusement park "Butch Cassidy
and the SUndance Kid" Western show
at 6 Flags in Chiacgo at Technical Director in charge of EFX
and I know how cheap they are
No matter how many lies she might state,
it was very difficult and demanding work, I dont know anyone else
that could have done it so cheaply...the crew w\got so burnt out
that I talked to all of them and almost unionized the crew,
and told peter we either had to
have an authorized day off or
we were gonna walk off the job together.
Peter gave us the day off.
Patricia is still furious.. tough.
Maria Pia Gardini the ex-member #1 critic in Italy
claimed she could have made
something like the profit for under 100 grand instead of
the 2.5 million bob did giver them...
Anyone who states an inconvenient truth
that competes with her VERSION of truth
is attacked by Ms Greenway
as a liar and kook.
I'm glad this movie is finally available,
so you don't have to take my word for it
that it is less than professional..(cough)
Compare the supposedlt $2,500,000 production
of The Profit, to the $250 dollar production of The Bridge...
suddenly The Bridge (movie) looks awesome, and furthr
john q public, would understand The Bridge...
and NB: I did not post anything about it,
to try to spin reviews one way or the other,
to tell people what theyw ere going to see,
I agree with Wise Beard Man's assessment
of this unfortunate production. Now with this
POS out of the way, maybe we can all work
together and do something about scientology
It will look better in the rear view mirror.
Fredric L. Rice
I'll have to see if I can watch it since apparently it's on YouTube.
The fact that the movie was made at all is an accomplishment. The
fact that Scientology tried to stop it should be its primary selling point.
Fredric L. Rice
>On Mar 22, 3:16 pm, "jackson.vane" <jackson.v...@gmail.com> wrote:
>> It's not as bad as Battlefield Earth. That movie was made of
>> something worse than fail.
>NOTHING can be as bad as Battlefield Earth!
<laugh!> It's funny because it's true. Even if The Profit had added
snotropes to its actors' noses like Battlefield Earth, it would not
have been nearly as bad as Battlefield Earth.
>The Rocky Horror Picture Show was awful as a movie, but I must have
>seen it a million times in the theater for all the audience
>participation...self included. Perhaps "The Profit" just needs some
>anonymous "audience" participation...cult classic little extras?
When Eddie said he didn't like his teddy you knew he was a no good kid.
Out_Of_The_Dark
>
> - Show quoted text -
hahaha!I tried to remain objective. There are alot of other things I
could say but ....
If you look around, you'll see that Skipper wrote a far more favorable
one, a glowing one at that, here on ARS; and at enturbulation.org
there are quite a few favorable ones from those unaware of the
history.
I do think there will be reprocussions, especially the questionable
ending of the movie. DM must be freaking out at this point. I did not
like that it gave the neckless icon used in hypnosis stuff such
importance but then again, this is fiction, lol!
And I thought it was cool to see these critics together before the
fall out.I forgot to add that Stacy did an excellent job as the nurse,
too.
It must have been a hoot doing this movie. Whether it was worth all
that money is another question I will leave to others to chew apart.
For a first time film, I'd give it a C, like I suspect the original
decision makers did who decided not to distribute it after seeing it
at Cannes. I think CoS did more to promote this film than any major
studio could have done.
As I said, the fallout should be interesting.
Mary
Lulu Belle
> "This is a bad b-movie, I mean really bad. I'm not sure if I can actually
> watch the whole thing."
> - Skeptic1337
Read the reply to Luke Lirot on The Profit message board.
Double ouchie.
http://z6.invisionfree.com/theprofit/index.php?showtopic=21
Mr. Lawyer, sir, have you ever actually watched this movie?
If you haven't, let me post here some review and comments made by
anonymous folks about the releasablness of The Profit:
"Poor Guy, the next one that has no idea that there is no way you can
get something back once its out on the Net.
On the other Hand, since it seems to be a Bad Movie (havent seen it
yet) it might Vanish soon anyway."
"I doubt I'll ever watch it, but I downloaded it just for the
principle of having something that the scifags hate.
I might eventually show it to some friends and we can have a bad movie
night or something. Stuff like this needs to be shared."
"Meh...I don't see how that re-editing this film would ever make it
even worth watching, and believe me, it would take a stroke of pure
genius,or insanity, to pull that off. Even the make-up sucks.
For instance, as Powers lay in his Bed O' Doom, the ridiculous attempt
to make him look old and sickly came across like a mix of Howard
Hughes prior to him dying and someone who had scars from a bad skin
graft.
The only way "The Profit" will ever,ever make distribution is for it
to be completely re-done from the top.
I understand the Lawyers point (which is more of a plea..) but this
movie is a dead horse. Let it lay there while we have fun with it."
"Oh, this film (The Profit) is so bad that even Attack of The Killer
Tomatoes seems like a blockbuster movie compared to it...
It could be released but it would have to be in the venue that it's
some kind of party movie like Rocky Horror or when they used to hold
those B-move festivals at drive-ins or sit-in.
It could work as a campy movie, I bet even Anonymous could go for
"Profit" party at a theater, outdoor sit-in or 'movie rave'. Maybe the
makers could generate some financial success in that area."
These are not from me, but are actual quotes from others who have now
seen the movie. I was only able to make it through the first fifteen
minutes before I gave it up as unwatchable.
I cannot speak for Anonymous, no one person can, but it seems that the
general consensus is that - Yes, this movie is worth getting out there
for people to see, but, and I am very sorry for those who sank so much
money into making it, it's not gonna sell if released in a traditional
way. It's just too badly done.
If it's creaters are truly more concerned about getting the message of
the film out, this is the best way to make sure it spreads - more
people will see it this way out of curiosity than would ever spend
money to buy it.
If their aim was to make money from the film, then I respectfully
suggest they go back to the drawing board for another try.
Out_Of_The_Dark
Lirot is so full of baloney.
Skipper
<742ecd40-f6e8-49cd...@n77g2000hse.googlegroups.com>,
Out_Of_The_Dark <xscilen...@yahoo.com> wrote:
> Lirot is so full of baloney.
Pot kettle black.
EvilZoe
> Skipper <skipSPAMpr...@yahoo.not> wrote:
> >In article <13uaudgtgkht...@corp.supernews.com>, Fredric L. Rice
> ><FR...@SkepticTank.Org> wrote:
> >> "JAFAW" <a...@anon.net> wrote:
> >> >"This is a bad b-movie, I mean really bad. I'm not sure if I can actually
> >> >watch the whole thing."
> >> >- Skeptic1337
> >> LOL! The usual response is "so?" The whole swatting point was to
> >> underscore the insanity of L. Ron Hubbard and his fellow gangsters.
> >> 1337, by the way, is short hand for "elite" -- a hacker wannabe.
> >I thought what bit I saw of it was great. No name actors, not a studio
> >production, but very good production value and a decent enough script
> >that is apparently telling a big story in nice shorthand.
>
> I'll have to see if I can watch it since apparently it's on YouTube.
> The fact that the movie was made at all is an accomplishment. The
> fact that Scientology tried to stop it should be its primary selling point.
>
> ---
> Anonymous = Herd of Cats Latched on to the Same Wildebeest
It's actually a fun movie if you take it as a big slice of camp. It
doesn't QUITE make it there on its own, but if the viewer suspends
disbelief for the brief time it takes to watch it.....
butterflygrrrl
ability to recoup the millions of dollars and countless hours of
creative effort and investment that went into producing this work.
Please be advised that such unauthorized distribution only harms the
greater goal of distributing this work in a more customary fashion,
thus limiting the ultimate audience that can view this important
statement, and ultimately reaching less people to be educated by this
work."
"Vast distribution"? He's delusional.
EvilZoe
Really...lol The vast distribution that the film is currently
experiencing is the ONLY way the distribution COULD be vast.
Fredric L. Rice
>"...harm the goal of vast distribution, as well as destroying the
>ability to recoup the millions of dollars and countless hours of
>"Vast distribution"? He's delusional.
Not really since the movie _would_ sell well if it were to be
released on a DVD.
---
Anonymous = Herd of Cats Latched on to the Same Wildebeest
"Operation Freakout 2.0 is failing miserably for the cult." - Anonymous
EvilZoe
You're not serious, are you, Fred? WHERE would this sell well? While
supporters of the critics might buy it, I have a hard time envisioning
the general public spreading its virtues via word of mouth, and I
REALLY can't see it being publicized via the usual hype machines.
The fact remains that the movie really DOES suck, and likely only
holds appeal for those who know the history of it, which pretty much
rules out the paying public.
At least at this time. There's no telling if the very fact that it
was released the way it was won't have an impact on how a paying
public would receive it, after this initial period has gone by.
Lulu Belle
Apparently the owners of The Profit message board didn't like this
commentary from an Anon.
It's been removed.
Eldon
> On Mar 23, 8:41 am, FR...@SkepticTank.Org (Fredric L. Rice) wrote:
>
> > butterflygrrrl <butterflygrr...@yahoo.com> wrote:
> > >"...harm the goal of vast distribution, as well as destroying the
> > >ability to recoup the millions of dollars and countless hours of
> > >"Vast distribution"? He's delusional.
>
> > Not really since the movie _would_ sell well if it were to be
> > released on a DVD.
>
> > ---
> > Anonymous = Herd of Cats Latched on to the Same Wildebeest
> > "Operation Freakout 2.0 is failing miserably for the cult." - Anonymous
>
> You're not serious, are you, Fred? WHERE would this sell well? While
> supporters of the critics might buy it, I have a hard time envisioning
> the general public spreading its virtues via word of mouth, and I
> REALLY can't see it being publicized via the usual hype machines.
I think Fred is right. If it were available through Netflix and
Blockbuster, people who came into contact with the cult would check it
out whenever they became curious about Scientology. Also, the pay-per-
view market (via computers, cable TV and even iPod thingies will grow
dramatically in the near future.
>
> The fact remains that the movie really DOES suck, and likely only
> holds appeal for those who know the history of it, which pretty much
> rules out the paying public.
I agree in terms of theatrical release. It's pretty uneven, but really
not much worse than some of the made-for-TV movies shown on cable.
EvilZoe
I think that the only way this movie could make any money at all, the
people who made it would have to take the entire story - the making of
it, who it's a parody of, the way the cult tried to shut it down, the
infighting, the leak, the way it's being spread, and who is currently
getting their panties in a bunch - to all the media they can reach,
set it up for DVD with some hellacious bonus extras, and get it out
NOW. They need to jump start the hype machine and take advantage of
the moment.
The paying public will only be interested in it if they hear about all
the mess behind it because the movie itself simply won't stand on its
own merit, and timing is EVERYTHING here.
I wouldn't mind Bob making back some of his investment (or all, if it
were possible). I know that people worked hard on this movie and they
deserve to recoup something. I just don't think it's a realistic
expectation.
Still, I wouldn't stop them from trying. Not at all.
Fredric L. Rice
>On Mar 23, 8:41 am, FR...@SkepticTank.Org (Fredric L. Rice) wrote:
>> butterflygrrrl <butterflygrr...@yahoo.com> wrote:
>> >"...harm the goal of vast distribution, as well as destroying the
>> >ability to recoup the millions of dollars and countless hours of
>> >"Vast distribution"? He's delusional.
>> Not really since the movie _would_ sell well if it were to be
>> released on a DVD.
>supporters of the critics might buy it, I have a hard time envisioning
>the general public spreading its virtues via word of mouth, and I
>REALLY can't see it being publicized via the usual hype machines.
I think it would sell a half million copies at least among the
Internets, sure, despite being a horrible movie solely because
Scientology successfully stopped its distribution. That alone
would make people curious and, if anything, be something of a
minor slap to the crime syndicate's face.
I certainly would purchase a copy.
EvilZoe
I would, too, but then, we're people who already KNOW. I'm trying to
view it from the perspective of a regular joe who isn't currently
aware of the whole thing. Y'know?
Alexia Death
They can still make money of it if they release it on mail order DVD
right now... People would buy it as a memento if its not that
expensive :) But without the mess...
Eldon
Bob is the reason this movie has not been released, and still cannot
be (officially). At this point, he doesn't hope to get his money back;
he wants to avoid losing the rest of it.