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Bruce Benson

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Oct 20, 2008, 8:12:46 PM10/20/08
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just saw a video of Dan Murnan and it looks like he's aged 20 years in
the last five. WTF is up w/ him? really really sad. f'n OT8 and the
guy looks totally miserable! wonder how much it costs to get that
messed up. it must be like a hornets nest inside his head.
http://uk.youtube.com/watch?v=zvk0qNvE1fo

hamburger helper

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Oct 21, 2008, 12:13:27 AM10/21/08
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"Bruce Benson" <webm...@101click.com> wrote in message
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I know. He looks like a guy who's ready to implode. He needs to blow that
wacked out cult. I felt so bad for him even when I first saw Mark's videos
of him and his buddies. He could have been someone he wanted to be. It's
the same hurt I feel for drug addicts or lifelong alcoholics. They could
have been someone else. Bless his heart.

HH

Bruce Benson

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Oct 21, 2008, 12:42:23 AM10/21/08
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HH,

He's OT8?! That's gotta cost at LEAST a couple hunded thousand
dollars. And when you see him in Bunker's vids, he's drivin' some
crappy 10+ year old pickup truck. He must have given EVERYTHING to
$cientology. Can you imagine giving the "church" that kinda money and
devotion, then see your money being used to throw Tom Cruise huge
birthday parties or new ducati motorcycles? Meanwhile, you cruise
around in your piece of shit pickup with DM's orders to fair game
someone.

F'N AMAZING!

henri

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Oct 21, 2008, 12:46:42 AM10/21/08
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>HH,

>F'N AMAZING!

The OT8s are generally completely fucked up. It's a rare person who
gets out after OT8 with any sanity left.

Most of them are financially ruined, mentally ill, and many are
physically broken as well. They look like shit, and if you look at
Dan Murnan, you get an idea of where the "Bridge" really leads.
Absolutely nowhere.

He looks like something out of A Scanner Darkly. The cult has eaten
his head.

Magoo

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Oct 21, 2008, 3:50:44 AM10/21/08
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"henri" <he...@nowhere.invalid> wrote in message
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> On Mon, 20 Oct 2008 21:42:23 -0700 (PDT), Bruce Benson
> <webm...@101click.com> wrote:
>
>>HH,
>
>>He's OT8?! That's gotta cost at LEAST a couple hunded thousand
>>dollars. And when you see him in Bunker's vids, he's drivin' some
>>crappy 10+ year old pickup truck. He must have given EVERYTHING to
>>$cientology. Can you imagine giving the "church" that kinda money and
>>devotion, then see your money being used to throw Tom Cruise huge
>>birthday parties or new ducati motorcycles? Meanwhile, you cruise
>>around in your piece of shit pickup with DM's orders to fair game
>>someone.

First off, I don't think he's OT 8, or OT 7, perhaps not
even OT 5. If you have proof of that,
let me know---but I doubt it, as he joined staff at LA Org, shortly
after Bunker's first videos of him, and I thought he was OT 3, then.


>
>>F'N AMAZING!
>
> The OT8s are generally completely fucked up.

This I found to be true.

It's a rare person who
> gets out after OT8 with any sanity left.

mmmm.....a bit of an exageration, but they are much worse
than when they began NOTS, and way too many
die between OT 5 and OT 8,
far more than should ---age wise.


>
> Most of them are financially ruined, mentally ill, and many are
> physically broken as well. They look like shit, and if you look at
> Dan Murnan, you get an idea of where the "Bridge" really leads.
> Absolutely nowhere.

He does look horrible---I feel bad for him, too.


>
> He looks like something out of A Scanner Darkly. The cult has eaten
> his head.

Totally. Dan? WTFU! Use L. Ron Hubbard's FINAL PL:

"The Way OUT
IS
The neeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeearest
Dooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooor!"

For you, it's the first door!
GET the F*** OUT OF THERE, DAN!!!

My best to all,
Tory/Magoo~~~X-OT 7, happily so, and free to talk about it.
Burbank, CA
(818) 588-3044---call me if you want to talk, you know me.


lynngar...@gmail.com

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Oct 21, 2008, 8:54:06 AM10/21/08
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It was confirmed to several anons that Dan has throat cancer. He has
difficulty swallowing.. when he does, it is audible & a lump pushes
out from his adam's apple.

feministe

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Oct 21, 2008, 10:30:52 AM10/21/08
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"henri" <he...@nowhere.invalid> a écrit dans le message de
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TC is now waiting for his wife to be on scene to make some money fro the
couple.

How much time can that keep on?

Maureen

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Oct 21, 2008, 2:52:11 PM10/21/08
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That's too bad. Removing engrams overtakes reality. The one video
where he said nothing struck me as beating someone who was already
down. At certain points, they must also believe they 'pulled it in.'

Very sad.
Maureen

Magoo

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Oct 22, 2008, 2:43:36 AM10/22/08
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<lynngar...@gmail.com> wrote in message
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Damn that sucks, big time. I've lost more friends to Cancer who were
"in" Scientology---than is believable. Dan is a true example of someone
used by the cult, F*** by them, and now screwed. Truly, I feel bad
for him!

Thanks for the info. Dan, if you see this: PLEASE get MEDICAL Help.
Don't die, being a "good Scientologist". Too many others have already
done that. Get help, get out, take *your* life back, please.

Tory/Magoo


Skipper

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Oct 22, 2008, 10:54:21 AM10/22/08
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In article <wYzLk.6616$Zc....@newsfe09.iad>, Magoo
<mag...@charter.net> wrote:

That's the price of being a $cientology goon.

Once I was put on the RPF from Celebrity Centre. I was given the choice
by "ethics officer" Harry Kaneer, a sour-faced creep I never liked, of
going to the RPF or being expelled and put on the street that day.
Penniless, knowing no one in L.A. who wasn't a $cientologist, what
could I do? So I went, accompanied by 6'4" James Fiducia as an
enforcer.

Later, I escaped from the RPF, jumping off a second-story ledge in the
middle of the night. I found a friend to stay with, called Kaneer at
CC, and said I just wanted my expensive guitar from my room and to be
done with the cult. He tricked me into speaking with Diane Marple,
another sour-faced creep, who brought along John Segota and Dan Murnan,
both bigger than me, to forcibly take me back if necessary. I realized
what was going on, didn't want to lose my portable typewriter and
expensive guitar, and went back. I eventually outwitted them and got my
stuff and "routed out" and not long after won a lot of money on a game
show, dumbfounding the CC creeps.

Dan did many "enforcer" things like that for the cult over the years.
He was a friend of mine for a while. But all I can say for him now is
Romans 6:23 - For the wages of sin are death.

Maureen

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Oct 22, 2008, 2:43:05 PM10/22/08
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On Oct 22, 9:54 am, Skipper <skipSPAMpr...@yahoo.not> wrote:
> In article <wYzLk.6616$Zc....@newsfe09.iad>, Magoo
>
>
>
> <mago...@charter.net> wrote:
> > <lynngarrett...@gmail.com> wrote in message

But isn't there a difference between someone whose less than you and
you being the stronger person, now, to not take what appears to be
your past feelings out on helpless people now? Maybe you were not as
vulnerable when you had your authoratative and commanding TR's in,
voice at others, and don't feel that you were that way once.

Wouldn't you be angry at what drives them to act this way, eg., the
tech as a whole rather than individuals with personal grudges? Yes
these things are wrong. the whole of the cult teaches people to pull
the worst things out of themself.


Maureen

barbz

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Oct 22, 2008, 5:06:34 PM10/22/08
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One of the things I recognize is how the SO are threatened with
"flipping burgers" if they leave.

If you work at a fast food joint, you work a reasonable number of hours.
You get health insurance.
Yeah, you flip teh burgs, but it's nothing like the slavery of the Sea
Org. And yet, this is what keeps people from leaving, the horror of
working an 8 hour shift, lots of down time, minimum wage, health
insurance. Oh, and not saving the world. That's not part of the
corporate plan. But since you won't be saving the world in the SO
anyways, cuz we're breeding moar SPs than they can keep up with, any SO
who actually tries the 'flipping burgers' life might come to see it as a
luxurious lifestyle, like Jeff Hawkins found. He didn't flip meat, but
he had another job that astounded him in that he wasn't working 18 hour
days, there were no "all hands" all nighters, and...wow. He had pocket
moneyz.

Ain't nothin wrong with burger flippin. I did it on a boat, which added
to the attraction. But if this is the horror they hold over these
people's heads, them peoples need a headsup. Anything is better than SO
slavery. Even fast food gives you the dignity a human being deserves.

--
--
barb
Chaplain, ARSCC (wdne)


"$cientology sees the world this way: One man with a picket sign:
terrorism. Five thousand people dead in a deliberate inferno: business
opportunity.

$cientology oozes _under_ terrorists to hide."
-Chris Leithiser

henri

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Oct 22, 2008, 7:05:50 PM10/22/08
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On Wed, 22 Oct 2008 14:06:34 -0700, barbz <xenu...@netscape.net>
wrote:

>Ain't nothin wrong with burger flippin. I did it on a boat, which added
>to the attraction. But if this is the horror they hold over these
>people's heads, them peoples need a headsup. Anything is better than SO
>slavery. Even fast food gives you the dignity a human being deserves.

SpongeBob seems happy enough:
http://www.123posters.com/images/f-spongebob2.gif

Happier than a Sea Org slave, anyway.

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