Some of Hubbard's fraudulent claims

Warrior

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Jun 17, 2006, 9:11:34 PM6/17/06

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Barbara Schwarz

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Jun 17, 2006, 11:17:34 PM6/17/06

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"Warrior" <war...@xenu.ca> wrote in message
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Caroline Letkeman is married to Gerry Armstrong. They are like you. "We just
allege, we don't have to prove a damn thing".
They are anti-religious extremists. Letkeman's stuff has nothing to do with
L. Ron Hubbard. L. Ron Hubbard wasn't a criminal. Any uncool actions within
Scientology were made by psychiatric infiltators.

http://www.thunderstar.net/~schwarz/lrh/fbidocs.html

Barbara Schwarz (Looking for the original Mark [Marty] Rathbun. No
impostor, please!)

http://www.thunderstar.net/~schwarz/lrh/fbidocs.html
--
(I am concerned about Dave Touretzky's activities. He also has bomb
instructions on the net.) http://www.religiousfreedomwatch.org/extremists/

Barbzzzzz "Babbles" Graham, is the selfproclaimed "chaplain" of an allegedly
non-existing organization named ARSCC that doesn't pay taxes. But if they
don't exist, how come they have a Chief Financial Officer (jail bird and
habitual offender Korey Jerome Kruse aka "Simkatu" and "Lord Xenu") who
works and travels on behalf of ARSCC?

Barbara Graham in her own words: "Anything's legal if you don't get caught."
And:
"You asshole. I was *never* a good person, you sad piece of crap. --
Spidergraham, Chaplain, ARSCC"
More: http://www.religiousfreedomwatch.org/extremists/graham1.html

roger gonnet

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Jun 18, 2006, 3:09:57 AM6/18/06

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"Barbara Schwarz" <Barbara...@gmail.com> a écrit dans le message de news:
4494...@news2.lightlink.com...

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> "Warrior" <war...@xenu.ca> wrote in message
> news:160593094.000...@drn.newsguy.com...
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> Caroline Letkeman is married to Gerry Armstrong.

yes. Is that a sin, to be married, for scientologists?

They are like you. "We just
> allege, we don't have to prove a damn thing".
> They are anti-religious extremists

anti-scam is the fact. They are both believers, as far as I know. So, pretending
theyr are ant-religious extremists is once more of the same libel and lies from
you, OSA pseudo-barb.

r

Alert

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Jun 18, 2006, 4:46:11 AM6/18/06

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RIGHTEOUS LINKS! thanks for this info warrior..I may be relatively
fresh out... but I know enough that the swartz is just another zealot
wanting to curtial the eradication of the 'reality' from the mind of
one sick individual named Lafayette Ronald Hubbard.
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Warrior

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Jun 18, 2006, 11:46:56 AM6/18/06

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Warrior peviously posted:

In article <1150620371....@r2g2000cwb.googlegroups.com>,
Alert says...

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> RIGHTEOUS LINKS! thanks for this info warrior..I may be relatively
>fresh out... but I know enough that the swartz is just another zealot
>wanting to curtial the eradication of the 'reality' from the mind of
>one sick individual named Lafayette Ronald Hubbard.

You're welcome. One can always tell that attackers have no valid
argument when they engage in ad hominems. The information at
the above links uses Hubbard's own writings to show a willful and
continual pattern of fraud.

Warrior - Sunshine disinfects
"Scientology: it's about deception."
http://warrior.xenu.ca

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Warrior

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Jun 18, 2006, 12:09:00 PM6/18/06

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In article <160593094.000...@drn.newsguy.com>
I provided the following links:

In article <4494...@news2.lightlink.com>, Barbara Schwarz says...

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>Caroline Letkeman is married to Gerry Armstrong.

To the best of my knowledge this is true.

>They are like you.

Well, if by this you mean that they are hip to Hubbard's fraudulent
claims you are correct.

>"We just allege, we don't have to prove a damn thing".

The whole point of webbing documents is to show the evidence.
The documents referenced above come from Hubbard's own writings,
so it is easy to verify their authenticity since the originals exist, and
MANY individuals own the same Hubbard publications. Take a good
look at the scans of pages from Hubbard's books and you'll see he
made many false claims. You don't have to take my word for it.
Go see for yourself.

>They are anti-religious extremists.

That's what you and Scientology _say_. Do you think people in
general don't notice your ad hominem attacks?

>Letkeman's stuff has nothing to do with L. Ron Hubbard.

This is false, and you know it. If you would care to look at the
documents Caroline has webbed you will easily see that they
have EVERYTHING to do with Hubbard (and Scientology).

>L. Ron Hubbard wasn't a criminal.

The record says otherwise: http://tinyurl.com/kthhe

>Any uncool actions within Scientology were made by psychiatric
>infiltators.

According to this argument, many, many uncool actions were done
by L. Ron Hubbard because he was a psychiatric infiltrator.

Do tell us more, Barbara...

I am being defamed and forged here

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Jun 19, 2006, 2:00:05 AM6/19/06

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Warrior schrieb:

> In article <160593094.000...@drn.newsguy.com>
> I provided the following links:

>

> In article <4494...@news2.lightlink.com>, Barbara Schwarz says...
> >
> >Caroline Letkeman is married to Gerry Armstrong.
>
> To the best of my knowledge this is true.
>
> >They are like you.
>
> Well, if by this you mean that they are hip to Hubbard's fraudulent
> claims you are correct.

There is no fraudulent claim by L. Ron Hubbard, dummy. Some psychiatric
infiltrators tried and try to alter his writings. Complain about them.

>
> >"We just allege, we don't have to prove a damn thing".
>
> The whole point of webbing documents is to show the evidence.

Caroline does what Gerry wants and he says, just allege, we don't have

to prove a damn thing.

> The documents referenced above come from Hubbard's own writings,

Did you see him write what these weirdos claim? I didn't.

> so it is easy to verify their authenticity since the originals exist, and
> MANY individuals own the same Hubbard publications.

Duh, forgeries were distributed to many people.

>Take a good
> look at the scans of pages from Hubbard's books and you'll see he
> made many false claims. You don't have to take my word for it.
> Go see for yourself.

You failed to try the tech out. I tried it out and it worked. I had
great wins. However, I noticed that psychs dropped some stuff in some
material as well, e.g. the clam stuff. I sure never was one and L. Ron
Hubbard said never that he was one.

>
> >They are anti-religious extremists.
>
> That's what you and Scientology _say_. Do you think people in
> general don't notice your ad hominem attacks?

I am hanging out here since years. I know what anti-religious means. Do
you think that people in general don't notice your ad hominem attacks?
Most people not anti-religious and extreme like you have no problem
with SCN.

>
> >Letkeman's stuff has nothing to do with L. Ron Hubbard.
>
> This is false, and you know it.

It is not false.

> If you would care to look at the
> documents Caroline has webbed you will easily see that they
> have EVERYTHING to do with Hubbard (and Scientology).

I don't waste my time with the Armstrong/Lettkeman couple. Gerry
defamed me. He is a pervert. Check the insulting stuff that he webbed
on Marty Rathbun. What a pig Gerry is.

>
> >L. Ron Hubbard wasn't a criminal.
>
> The record says otherwise: http://tinyurl.com/kthh

That is crap. Bunch of liars making false claims up/

This website on the other side is of great signifiant. You can't have
it more clearly that L. Ron Hubbard wasn't a criminal.

http://www.thunderstar.net/~schwarz/lrh/fbidocs.html

But I think the FBI might have criminal records on Gerry Armstrong,
Lettkeman and you.

>
> >Any uncool actions within Scientology were made by psychiatric
> >infiltators.
>
> According to this argument, many, many uncool actions were done
> by L. Ron Hubbard because he was a psychiatric infiltrator.

What is the name of the psychiatric drug that you take? Or is it steet
drugs and booze that makes you post trash like that. Nazi revisionists
blame the Jews wrongfully on the Holocaust. He do in principle the same
on L. Ron Hubbard twisting everything around and now claiming that he
was a psychiatric infiltrator. Scientology was his discovery and
movement. How can somebody be an infiltrator of his own movement?

Do tell us more, Barbara...

Get real!

--
Barbara Schwarz (Looking for the original Mark (Marty) Rathbun. No
impostor, please!)

http://www.thunderstar.net/~schwarz/lrh/fbidocs.html

(I am concerned about Dave Touretzky's activities. He also has bomb
instructions on the net)
http://www.religiousfreedomwatch.org/extremists/

Victoria (Tory) Christman was on drugs and also experimented with
heroin. If not for Scientology, she might have died. She now defames L.
Ron Hubbard, Scientology and Scientologists who salvaged her from her
destructive "lifestyle".
http://www.religiousfreedomwatch.org/_vti_bin/shtml.dll/search.html

"I made my typical, totally evaluative decision without ANY real
facts."
Tory Christman, 27 Jun 2001, Message-ID:
<3B3A9693...@worldnet.att.net

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Eru Ilúvatar

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Jun 19, 2006, 2:13:47 PM6/19/06

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Barbara Schwarz <Barbara...@gmail.com> wrote:

>Caroline Letkeman is married to Gerry Armstrong.

BFD. Hubbard was still an asshole.

Eru Ilúvatar

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Jun 19, 2006, 3:41:12 PM6/19/06

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I am being defamed and forged here <Stilllov...@myway.com> wrote:

>There is no fraudulent claim by L. Ron Hubbard, dummy

Sure there is. In fact there are many such claims. Scientology is
the biggest of Hubbard's fraudulent claims. Barbara Schwarz is
living proof of Scientology's lack of safety and efficacy.

asstr...@email.com

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Jun 24, 2006, 3:07:48 AM6/24/06

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Eru IlÃºvatar wrote:
> Barbara Schwarz <Barbara...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> >Caroline Letkeman is married to Gerry Armstrong.
>
> BFD. Hubbard

Raped a little boy lately again, pig Stapelton?

Stapelton should be banned from Google groups.

THOSE WHO WANT TO SUE OR FILE PENAL COMPLAINTS AGAINST MILTON'
STAPLETON, BELOW ARE SOME DATA THAT MIGHT HELP YOU.

Pete Stapleton, infamous, laughed-at, and mocked Usenet character,
winner of
several Net Kook awards, and so-called "Sidereal Astrologer", was
ordered to
appear by the Honorable Richard A. McEachen, in Department 4 of the
Shasta
County Court on Monday, February 4, to show cause as to why his legal
action
should not be dismissed by virtue of his failure to comply with the
provisions
following the granting for change in venue.

Stapelton responded by voluntarily dismissing his own case. Now that's
probably
the smartest thing the sick man has done in his whole life.

Some of us know he is lying when he claims his astrology works. In 1998
he posted that his astrology predicted a
recession would start in 1999 and he was very, very wrong, peat. Why
does he continue to post lies to alt.astrology and now to
alt.religion.scientology? Because he is a criminal and a scam artist.

ELLISALLSPAM wrote:

>>Why has Milton Robert "Peat" Aru Avatar three social security numbers?

PEAT:

MILTON ROBERT STAPLETON

110-A South Irena Avenue, Redondo Beach, CA

460-06-8042

3/10/28 DOB
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Name: STAPLETON, MILTON R Possible Current Address
Address: 1864 SOUTH ST SSN: 566244086
REDDING, CA 96001- Valid SSN -- issued by California
File Since Date: 02/01/1987 Telephone: 3962704
Birth month/year: 03/1928 Date Reported: 11/01/1996

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Name: STAPLETON, MILTON R Possible Current Address
Address: 7220 RECTOR CREEK RD SSN: 566244086
IGO, CA 96047- Valid SSN -- issued by California
File Since Date: 02/01/1987 Telephone: 3962704
Birth month/year: 03/1928

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Name: STAPLETON, MILTON R Additional Address
Address: 1610 WEST ST # B SSN: 566244086
REDDING, CA 96001- Valid SSN -- issued by California
File Since Date: 02/01/1987 Telephone: 3962704
Birth month/year: 03/1928

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Stapleton, Milton R
1864 South St
Redding, CA 96001-1809
County/FIPS: Shasta

Name Variation(s) As Found:
Stapleton, Milton R Source Document(s)

Telephone:
396-2704 Source Document(s)

Address Variation(s):
* * * ORIGINAL * * * 1864 South St, Redding, CA 96001-1809
Source Document(s)

* * * POSTAL STANDARD * * *
1864 South St, Redding, CA 96001-1809
County/FIPS: Shasta
MSA: Redding, CA - 6690

Previous Address(es):
* * * ORIGINAL * * * 7220 Rector Creek Rd, Igo, CA 96047
Source Document(s)

7220 Rector Creek Rd, Igo, CA 96047-9721
Source Document(s)

* * * POSTAL STANDARD * * *
7220 Rector Creek Rd, Igo, CA 96047-9721
County/FIPS: Shasta
MSA: Redding, CA - 6690

* * * ORIGINAL * * * 1610 West St # B, Redding, CA 96001
Source Document(s)

1610 West St Apt B, Redding, CA 96001
Source Document(s)

1610 West Street Apt B, Redding, CA 96001
Source Document(s)

* * * POSTAL STANDARD * * *
1610 West St Apt B, Redding, CA 96001-1726
County/FIPS: Shasta
MSA: Redding, CA - 6690

ATTRIBUTES:

Gender: Male
Date of Birth: 03/1928
Source Document(s)

Social Security Number(s):
566-24-4086 Source Document(s)

Roles and Occurrences in Data:
Name Variation(s) As Found: 1
Real Property Owner: 0
Mortgage(s): 0
Aircraft Owner: 0
Boat Owner: 0
SSN: 1
Weapon Permit: 0
Bankruptcy Petitioner: 0
Other Bankruptcy Party: 0
Judgment: 0
Debtor: 0
Creditor: 0
Executive: 0
Registered Agent: 0

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Name: STAPLETON, MILTON R
566-24-4086
Issued: California;

1934-1951
1864 SOUTH ST REDDING, CA 96001
7220 RECTOR CREEK RD IGO, CA 96047
1610 WEST ST #B REDDING, CA 96001

DOB: 09/01/1959
Date Rptd: 11/01/1996

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--- ALL NAMES ASSOCIATED WITH SUBJECT'S SSN
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1. STAPLETON, MILTON R
566-24-4086

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-- POSSIBLE RELATIVES AND THEIR CURRENT AND PAST ADDRESSES
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Name: STAPLETON, MILTON R
557-41-8895
Issued:
California; 1976

1610 WEST ST #B REDDING, CA 96001
1171 N KRAEMER PL ANAHEIM, CA 92806
7220 RECTOR CREEK RD IGO, CA 96047
POB 4441 REDDING, CA 96099
1864 SOUTH ST REDDING, CA 96001

DOB: No Information on file
Date Rptd: No Information on file
Phone: 530-396-2704

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--- MOST CURRENT REPORTED ADDRESS
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Address: 1864 SOUTH ST
REDDING, CA 96001 SHASTA COUNTY
Date Rptd: 11/01/1996
Phone: 530-396-2704

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-- Listed Phone Numbers at 1864 SOUTH ST, REDDING CA

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No Information on file

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-- Property Ownership at 1864 SOUTH ST, REDDING CA

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Primary Owner: MACKEY JANICE L
Site Address: 1864 SOUTH
REDDING CA 96001-1809
Owner Address: 1864 SOUTH
REDDING CA 96001-1809
Telephone: None Reported
APN: 041-310-02
Assessed Value: $50,441.00

> Stapleton, Malia
> (street address given)
> Residence City given
> phone number given: xxx-xxx-xxxx

Milton Stapleton was originally not Milton but Pete and Peat and Petie
and hell knows what else. He was in jail and then changed his name to
Milton Stapleton.

His is what somebody wrote who watched him:
Petie, you lie, your astrology doesn't work --- it DIDN'T save you from
going to jail. Who is going to believe in your astrology---trying to
pimp the sexy hubs, rims and spokes? You FAILED! Your astrology
doesn't WORK!

Pete Stapleton about marijuana:
After all, pot is said to enhance one's ear for music, increase one's
sensuality and push the natural inhibitions into the back ground for
the moment.

Pete Stapleton about him being mentally ill.
I am also a diagnosed Manic Depressive. I was institutionalized for
a year in an attempt to resolve the problem.
I do stay clear of any activity that requires rigid scheduling over a
long period - of course this is the way the manic allowed me to live
(he
makes the money) - kind of free of restraints - and I'm still getting
away with it.

Peat Stapleton about rape and phedophelia:
So what if I DID force a 13 year old boy to have sex with me? It was
before megans law so there's nothing you can do about it!

Peat Stapleton in his "profession" as astrologist:
What Jo dream will not admit is that is or was in fact a prostitue.
And apparently was badly hurt by her pimp - since calling someone a
pimp seems to be her method of attack under all circumstance. And
what is worse - she apparently worked the farm workers truck in
California @ $5.00 per blow job. At least this is what was posted
about her on alt.astrology some time ago and she never denied it.