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barbz

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Feb 17, 2007, 1:13:47 PM2/17/07
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The Narconon segment will begin around 11:00 pst

Hear it live on kcaaradio.com
--
Barb
Chaplain, ARSCC (wdne)

"Keep fighting for freedom and justice, beloveds, but don't forget to
have fun doin' it. Lord, let your laughter ring forth. Be outrageous,
ridicule the fraidy-cats, rejoice in all the oddities that freedom can
produce."

--Molly Ivins

jerald

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Feb 17, 2007, 1:24:50 PM2/17/07
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I'm watching now.

jerald

Out_Of_The_Dark

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Feb 17, 2007, 2:02:20 PM2/17/07
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jerald

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Feb 17, 2007, 2:53:51 PM2/17/07
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OMG

This is one great show! I wonder if the woman who co owns the center
will back out of being on the show? She would have to be a real fool
to think she can explain all this away.

jerald

Fear Not

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Feb 17, 2007, 3:06:03 PM2/17/07
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Listening to this just makes me sick for those people.
The medical malpractice alone is fodder for lawyers.
Good fodder. And they will win.

barbz

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Feb 17, 2007, 3:07:39 PM2/17/07
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Yeah...especially considering who the last guest is...

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jerald

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Feb 17, 2007, 3:17:22 PM2/17/07
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5 hours at 180 degrees???? That's not helping, that's a giant crock
pot!

jerald

ida...@aol.com

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Feb 17, 2007, 3:24:50 PM2/17/07
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Vince Daniels knows the right questions to ask. This is a super
excellent program. He is to be commended. Not few will stick their
neck out to expose the CON

Ida

"You must have crossed the river to tell the crocodile he has bad
breath" Chinese Proverb

jerald

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Feb 17, 2007, 3:32:21 PM2/17/07
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On Feb 17, 2:24 pm, idaj...@aol.com wrote:

> On Feb 17, 12:17?pm, "jerald" <jerald-ja...@hotmail.com> wrote:
>
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>
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> > On Feb 17, 2:07 pm, barbz <xenub...@netscape.net> wrote:
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> > > jerald wrote:
> > > > On Feb 17, 12:24 pm, "jerald" <jerald-ja...@hotmail.com> wrote:
> > > >> On Feb 17, 12:13 pm, barbz <xenub...@netscape.net> wrote:
>
> > > >>> The Narconon segment will begin around 11:00 pst
> > > >>> Hear it live on kcaaradio.com
> > > >>> --
> > > >>> Barb
> > > >>> Chaplain, ARSCC (wdne)
> > > >>> "Keep fighting for freedom and justice, beloveds, but don't forget to
> > > >>> have fun doin' it. Lord, let your laughter ring forth. Be outrageous,
> > > >>> ridicule the fraidy-cats, rejoice in all the oddities that freedom can
> > > >>> produce."
> > > >>> ? ? ? ? --Molly Ivins

> > > >> I'm watching now.
>
> > > >> jerald
>
> > > > OMG
>
> > > > This is one great show! ?I wonder if the woman who co owns the center
> > > > will back out of being on the show? ?She would have to be a real fool

> > > > to think she can explain all this away.
>
> > > > jerald
>
> > > Yeah...especially considering who the last guest is...
>
> > > --
> > > Barb
> > > Chaplain, ARSCC (wdne)
>
> > > "Keep fighting for freedom and justice, beloveds, but don't forget to
> > > have fun doin' it. Lord, let your laughter ring forth. Be outrageous,
> > > ridicule the fraidy-cats, rejoice in all the oddities that freedom can
> > > produce."
>
> > > ? ? ? ? --Molly Ivins- Hide quoted text -

>
> > > - Show quoted text -
>
> > 5 hours at 180 degrees???? ?That's not helping, ?that's a giant crock

> > pot!
>
> > jerald- Hide quoted text -
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> > - Show quoted text -
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> Vince Daniels knows the right questions to ask. This is a super
> excellent program. He is to be commended. Not few will stick their
> neck out to expose the CON
>
> Ida
>
> "You must have crossed the river to tell the crocodile he has bad
> breath" Chinese Proverb- Hide quoted text -

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I bet she backs out now. Vince seems to be giving someone hell.

jerald

Out_Of_The_Dark

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Feb 17, 2007, 3:33:32 PM2/17/07
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I hope any attorney listening in to the show will consider taking one
or all of these people's cases or take it one step further to set up a
class action lawsuit for fraud and negligence .

barbz

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Feb 17, 2007, 3:43:16 PM2/17/07
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Out_Of_The_Dark wrote:
> Yup. the last speaker discussing her boyfriend Darrell's experience
> described one of the several gang-bang scientology ethics
> 'handlings' used to overwhelm and break down a person, not unlike
> tactics used by the Nazi's. I get shivers when I hear these stories
> because I have experienced such during my days in the cult. Can't
> wait for what's up next after the commercials!
>
> Mary
> Out_Of_The_Dark
> Stop-Narconon.org:
> Protecting the Vulnerable from Narconon/ScientologyStop-Narconon.org:
> Protecting the Vulnerable from Narconon/Scientology.
> http://www.cs.cmu.edu/~dst/Stop-Narconon
> www.stopnarconon.org
>
"Ball-baiting."

jerald

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Feb 17, 2007, 3:48:16 PM2/17/07
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> --Molly Ivins- Hide quoted text -

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And she didn't answer the scientology quetion put to her. Or any
question for that matter.

jerald

Out_Of_The_Dark

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Feb 17, 2007, 4:02:35 PM2/17/07
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yes, I noticed that, too.
Fortunately Patty P did a great job and thereby negated much of what
the Wickstrom's said.

Great show.


Kilia

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Feb 17, 2007, 4:58:24 PM2/17/07
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On Feb 17, 2:24 pm, idaj...@aol.com wrote:

> On Feb 17, 12:17?pm, "jerald" <jerald-ja...@hotmail.com> wrote:
>
>
>
> > On Feb 17, 2:07 pm, barbz <xenub...@netscape.net> wrote:
>
> > > jerald wrote:
> > > > On Feb 17, 12:24 pm, "jerald" <jerald-ja...@hotmail.com> wrote:
> > > >> On Feb 17, 12:13 pm, barbz <xenub...@netscape.net> wrote:
>
> > > >>> The Narconon segment will begin around 11:00 pst
> > > >>> Hear it live on kcaaradio.com
> > > >>> --
> > > >>> Barb
> > > >>> Chaplain, ARSCC (wdne)
> > > >>> "Keep fighting for freedom and justice, beloveds, but don't forget to
> > > >>> have fun doin' it. Lord, let your laughter ring forth. Be outrageous,
> > > >>> ridicule the fraidy-cats, rejoice in all the oddities that freedom can
> > > >>> produce."
> > > >>> ? ? ? ? --Molly Ivins

> > > >> I'm watching now.
>
> > > >> jerald
>
> > > > OMG
>
> > > > This is one great show! ?I wonder if the woman who co owns the center
> > > > will back out of being on the show? ?She would have to be a real fool

> > > > to think she can explain all this away.
>
> > > > jerald
>
> > > Yeah...especially considering who the last guest is...
>
> > > --
> > > Barb
> > > Chaplain, ARSCC (wdne)
>
> > > "Keep fighting for freedom and justice, beloveds, but don't forget to
> > > have fun doin' it. Lord, let your laughter ring forth. Be outrageous,
> > > ridicule the fraidy-cats, rejoice in all the oddities that freedom can
> > > produce."
>
> > > ? ? ? ? --Molly Ivins- Hide quoted text -

>
> > > - Show quoted text -
>
> > 5 hours at 180 degrees???? ?That's not helping, ?that's a giant crock

> > pot!
>
> > jerald- Hide quoted text -
>
> > - Show quoted text -
>
> Vince Daniels knows the right questions to ask. This is a super
> excellent program. He is to be commended. Not few will stick their
> neck out to expose the CON
>
> Ida

Yes, he does know the right questions to ask now. Love it!!

I hope more can come of this that will help the unfortunate people who
were dupped and suffered under NarCONon's hands.

GO VINCE DANIELS!!!! :)

Kilia

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Feb 17, 2007, 4:59:54 PM2/17/07
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On Feb 17, 3:02 pm, "Out_Of_The_Dark" <xscilentolog...@yahoo.com>
wrote:

I think Patty did a great job in the short time alloted her as well.


lmng...@myrealbox.com

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Feb 17, 2007, 8:49:33 PM2/17/07
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barbz <xenu...@netscape.net> wrote:

>The Narconon segment will begin around 11:00 pst
>
>Hear it live on kcaaradio.com


the replay is at
http://yardtv.gotdns.com/podcast-bin/stream.cgi?show=vince&datecode=20070217

http://tinyurl.com/25lylm

Kimberly

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Feb 17, 2007, 9:37:57 PM2/17/07
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On Feb 17, 8:49 pm, lmngro...@myrealbox.com wrote:

> barbz <xenub...@netscape.net> wrote:
> >The Narconon segment will begin around 11:00 pst
>
> >Hear it live on kcaaradio.com
>
> the replay is athttp://yardtv.gotdns.com/podcast-bin/stream.cgi?show=vince&datecode=2...
>
> http://tinyurl.com/25lylm

I certainly hope people step forward who can help us in this pursuit!
David and I appreciate all your support and Sheri (who is on her way
to pick up Daryl at Stone Hawk) and others want to legally pursue our
options and get this place SHUT DOWN!! David has been emotionally
affected by these Bastards who lied while looking right into his eyes
when he desperately needed help. It was a great show and we look
forward to another one very soon!! Keep us in your prayers!!

Kilia

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Feb 17, 2007, 10:07:15 PM2/17/07
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Kimberly, you and the others are in my prayers for sure!
Keep up the good work and God bless you all.

RolandRB

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Feb 17, 2007, 10:48:28 PM2/17/07
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On 18 Feb, 02:49, lmngro...@myrealbox.com wrote:

> barbz <xenub...@netscape.net> wrote:
> >The Narconon segment will begin around 11:00 pst
>
> >Hear it live on kcaaradio.com
>
> the replay is athttp://yardtv.gotdns.com/podcast-bin/stream.cgi?show=vince&datecode=2...
>
> http://tinyurl.com/25lylm

How many minutes in do I have to go to listen to the Narconon bit?

John Dorsay

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Feb 17, 2007, 11:04:50 PM2/17/07
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Around 65 or 70.

John

RolandRB

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Feb 18, 2007, 1:43:50 AM2/18/07
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Can someone make a shortened version that only has this?

RolandRB

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Feb 18, 2007, 2:18:58 AM2/18/07
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On 18 Feb, 05:04, John Dorsay <restimula...@gmail.com> wrote:

Got there and found it. How come this guy has got a radio show with a
speech impediment like that? There's more "um"s and "ah"s than in a
French conversation.


barbz

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Feb 18, 2007, 4:47:57 AM2/18/07
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The Narconon segment starts about 30 minutes into the show. That's not
metric minutes, btw. ;)

Patty Pieniadz

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Feb 18, 2007, 7:33:14 AM2/18/07
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Kilia wrote:
> On Feb 17, 3:02 pm, "Out_Of_The_Dark" <xscilentolog...@yahoo.com>


>>
>> yes, I noticed that, too.
>> Fortunately Patty P did a great job and thereby negated much of what
>> the Wickstrom's said.
>>
>> Great show.
>
> I think Patty did a great job in the short time alloted her as well.

Thanks Mary and Kilia,

I was nervous, but it's easy when all you have to do is tell the truth.

Kate Wickstrom had to go through all kinds of mind contortions to
tell her "acceptable truths" and outright lies.

Telling the truth is so much easier and a lot more fun.

I know Kate or Per won't be allowed to read this thread by just
in case they do, I have a message for them:

Stop lying and just tell the truth. You'll feel so much better when you do!

Patty P

Patty Pieniadz

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Feb 18, 2007, 7:36:59 AM2/18/07
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Dear Kimberly,

Thank you so much for standing up and looking evil right in the face.
Please contact me if you need any help in fighting and exposing Narconon.

I'm the woman that spoke in the last segment of Vince's show, and will
happy to do all I can to help expose what is going on with Narconon.


Patty P

http://www.xenu-directory.net/critics/pieniadz1.html

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barbz

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Feb 18, 2007, 10:06:09 AM2/18/07
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Patty,
What do you think the significance of Kate's sudden 15 second silence is?
Was she just eating up airtime, or had her brain gotten to Full Stop?

Kimberly

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Feb 18, 2007, 10:40:17 AM2/18/07
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Patty~

David and I also want to thank you for the best ending of his show
possible! We are not telling lies like Kate wanted everyone to
believe and David has been violated and stolen from at a time when he
needed help/support the most. You are appreciated more than our words
can express.

Secondly, since you are so well connected, if you know of any attorney
that woudl be willing to take this case please email me. We just need
a point in the right direction and we don't want to stop momentum at
all!

David and Kimaberly

Tigger Tigger

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Feb 18, 2007, 10:48:19 AM2/18/07
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Yeah....Kudos to everyone on the show, especially Patty P.

And kudos to Vince for not throwing in the towel and giving
NarCONon/Wickstroms a win because Greg Beha was shuttered (paid) into
silence by CO$.

More informtion about Kate Wickstrom can be found here:

alt.religion.scientology | Google Groups
http://groups.google.com/group/alt.religion.scientology/search?q=Kate+Wickstrom%2C+Tigger&start=0&scoring=d&hl=en&

Tigger

Patty Pieniadz

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Feb 18, 2007, 1:40:47 PM2/18/07
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barbz wrote:
> Patty Pieniadz wrote:
>> Kilia wrote:
>>> On Feb 17, 3:02 pm, "Out_Of_The_Dark" <xscilentolog...@yahoo.com>
>>
>>
>>>> yes, I noticed that, too.
>>>> Fortunately Patty P did a great job and thereby negated much of
>>>> what the Wickstrom's said.
>>>>
>>>> Great show.
>>> I think Patty did a great job in the short time alloted her as well.
>>
>> Thanks Mary and Kilia,
>>
>> I was nervous, but it's easy when all you have to do is tell the
>> truth.
>> Kate Wickstrom had to go through all kinds of mind contortions to
>> tell her "acceptable truths" and outright lies.
>>
>> Telling the truth is so much easier and a lot more fun.
>>
>> I know Kate or Per won't be allowed to read this thread by just
>> in case they do, I have a message for them:
>>
>> Stop lying and just tell the truth. You'll feel so much better when
>> you do!
>> Patty P
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
> Patty,
> What do you think the significance of Kate's sudden 15 second silence
> is? Was she just eating up airtime, or had her brain gotten to Full
> Stop?

My guess is someone (OSA) was giving her instructions on what to say
and she was listening to them instead of the show.

Patty P


jerald

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Feb 18, 2007, 1:53:04 PM2/18/07
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I think you were great Patty. You didn't sound the least bit nervous
at all. And you made all the connections in just the right way for
everyone to understand it.

jeald

Eldon

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Feb 18, 2007, 2:45:10 PM2/18/07
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On Feb 18, 1:33 pm, "Patty Pieniadz" <ppieni...@gmail.com> wrote:
> Kilia wrote:
> > On Feb 17, 3:02 pm, "Out_Of_The_Dark" <xscilentolog...@yahoo.com>
>
> >> yes, I noticed that, too.
> >> Fortunately Patty P did a great job and thereby negated much of what
> >> the Wickstrom's said.
>
> >> Great show.
>
> > I think Patty did a great job in the short time alloted her as well.
>
> Thanks Mary and Kilia,
>
> I was nervous, but it's easy when all you have to do is tell the truth.

Well, I will third that sentiment. Actually, you sounded.. well,
businesslike in a way. Crisp and factual --which was especially
effective after that strident, denial-ridden crap from the
Wickstroms ;-0

Thanks for taking time out from your bereavement to do this. I'm sure
your sister is proud.

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