Prophetic Insights: Flight 6621 Hijack & VI-97

[Goro Adachi]

Author: GORO ADACHI
E-mail Address: ada...@cris.com
WWW: http://www.concentric.net/~adachi/prophecy/prophecy.html

PROPHETIC INSIGHTS
"Conversations With Nostradamus": ANALYSIS

Brief Update : 7/26/96

IBERIA AIRLINES FLIGHT 6621 HIJACK & QUATRAIN VI - 97

*(This additional analysis will be incorporated into the previous analysis
report, "TWA Flight 800 Explosion & Quatrain VI-97" on my web site.)

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Well, here is yet another event that can be related to the quatrain VI-97. I
believe this is one of the minor events that were implied in VI-97, and
because of that, the connection is not as clear as the TWA Flight 800
disaster. However, it's strengthened by the fact that this event on July 26
'96 happened very close to the TWA 800 explosion. It is another example of
multiple events combined into one quatrain due to the closeness in time
and/or nature of the events.

Iberia Airlines Flight 6621 Hijack

On July 26 '96, Iberia Airlines Flight 6621 carrying about 230 people, en
route from Madrid, Spain to Havana, Cuba was hijacked by a man who claimed to
have a bomb and the plane was forced to be diverted to Miami, Florida. About
40 minutes after the plane landed, the hijacker quickly surrendered. No one
was hurt. The hijacker's motive is not known at this time, and there was no
bomb on board.

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The connection can be found mainly in the first two lines of VI-97 (which I
extensively used in the previous update about the TWA 800 explosion):

Century VI-97

Cinq & quarante degrez ciel bruslera
Feu approcher de la grand cite' neuue
Instant grand flamme esparse sautera
Quand on voudra des Normans faire preuue.

At forty-five degrees the sky will burn,
Fire to approach the great new city:
In an instant a great scattered flame will leap up,
When they want to have proof of the Normans.

LINE 1 : "At Forty-Five Degrees The Sky Will Burn"

As I mentioned in the previous update, the first line of Quatrain VI-97
doesn't necessarily say "forty-five". If you check the original quatrain in
French ("Cinq & quarante"), it actually says "five & forty". Therefore, the
most direct translation of Line 1 would be like this:

"At five & forty degrees the sky will burn"

If you have a world map, try locating a major city very close to "5" degrees
longitude W. and "40" degrees latitude N. The city should be MADRID,
Spain... where the hijacked plane came from!

LINE 2 : "Fire To Approach The Great New City"

In this case, the "new city" could refer to Miami... (I'm not sure, but
don't some people call Miami "the New York of the South"? Anyone know?)
Here is the new interpretation of Line 2:

'The hijacked plane with a bomb on-board (which turned out to
be a hoax) to approach Miami'

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Well, like I said, the connection between VI-97 and the Iberia Airline Flight
6621alone is not strong, and the event itself is probably not that
significant, but it needs to be seen with the TWA Flight 800 incident. It is
a good demonstration of a quatrain having many levels.

It seems more troubles in the sky are coming. The sky is "burning".

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[Paul S]

Goro Adachi wrote:

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>
> Well, here is yet another event that can be related to the quatrain VI-97. I
> believe this is one of the minor events that were implied in VI-97, and
> because of that, the connection is not as clear as the TWA Flight 800
> disaster. However, it's strengthened by the fact that this event on July 26
> '96 happened very close to the TWA 800 explosion. It is another example of
> multiple events combined into one quatrain due to the closeness in time
> and/or nature of the events.

It might be strengthened if the events were even remotely related, but
other than it being an airplane, I can't see how you have connected
these two events rationally.

>
> Cinq & quarante degrez ciel bruslera
> Feu approcher de la grand cite' neuue
> Instant grand flamme esparse sautera
> Quand on voudra des Normans faire preuue.
>
> At forty-five degrees the sky will burn,
> Fire to approach the great new city:
> In an instant a great scattered flame will leap up,
> When they want to have proof of the Normans.
>
> LINE 1 : "At Forty-Five Degrees The Sky Will Burn"
>
> As I mentioned in the previous update, the first line of Quatrain VI-97
> doesn't necessarily say "forty-five". If you check the original quatrain in
> French ("Cinq & quarante"), it actually says "five & forty". Therefore, the
> most direct translation of Line 1 would be like this:
>
> "At five & forty degrees the sky will burn"
>
> If you have a world map, try locating a major city very close to "5" degrees
> longitude W. and "40" degrees latitude N. The city should be MADRID,
> Spain... where the hijacked plane came from!

GEE GORO, DIDN'T YOU SAY THAT THE NUMBERS REFER TO NYC AND/OR PARIS?
Jeez, pick a pot and sit on it. You are running a great danger in
discrediting all your past work with this one. This and the other
ridiculous and almost comical interpretation of the quatrain that you
posted a few days ago are putting your work into serious question.

It's Madrid, no it's NYC, no it's Paris. Maybe you can correlate the
row and section where the pipe bomb went off in Atlanta. Wait, I seem
to recall that the phone booth where the bomb threat was called in from
has the numbers 40 and 5. Maybe instead of degrees, they meant the
temperature outside, which a shady phone booth at 1:00 am might be close
to.

> LINE 2 : "Fire To Approach The Great New City"
>
> In this case, the "new city" could refer to Miami... (I'm not sure, but
> don't some people call Miami "the New York of the South"? Anyone know?)

In all my years I have never heard of Miami being called the NYC of the
south. Same for Atlanta, in case you are still wondering from your
previous analysis.

> Here is the new interpretation of Line 2:
> 'The hijacked plane with a bomb on-board (which turned out to
> be a hoax) to approach Miami'
>
> =========================
>
> Well, like I said, the connection between VI-97 and the Iberia Airline Flight
> 6621alone is not strong, and the event itself is probably not that
> significant, but it needs to be seen with the TWA Flight 800 incident. It is
> a good demonstration of a quatrain having many levels.

Its a good demonstration of how someone can be so obsessed with making a
connection that they will use unrelated events to reach a conclusion.
Its comical.

>
> It seems more troubles in the sky are coming. The sky is "burning".
>

So are my eyes.

Goro, you are so way off on this one that I feel compelled to warn you
that you are jeopardizing all your prior work on this overzealousness.
Your previous interpretation of the quatrain suffers from so many
fallacies that I can't even begin to list them, but I might just pull it
out and point it all out for you and everyone to see. I am not trying
to ridicule you or flame you, especially since I consider most of your
previous Analysis work to be well-done, but this one is just way off.

Paul S.

[Goro Adachi]

Paul S wrote:

> It might be strengthened if the events were even remotely related, but
> other than it being an airplane, I can't see how you have connected
> these two events rationally.

Airliner vulnerability and the closeness in time, combined with the "5 & 40
degrees" interpretation make an interesting connection.

> > Cinq & quarante degrez ciel bruslera
> > Feu approcher de la grand cite' neuue
> > Instant grand flamme esparse sautera
> > Quand on voudra des Normans faire preuue.
> >
> > At forty-five degrees the sky will burn,
> > Fire to approach the great new city:
> > In an instant a great scattered flame will leap up,
> > When they want to have proof of the Normans.
> >
> > LINE 1 : "At Forty-Five Degrees The Sky Will Burn"
> >
> > As I mentioned in the previous update, the first line of Quatrain VI-97
> > doesn't necessarily say "forty-five". If you check the original quatrain
> > in
> > French ("Cinq & quarante"), it actually says "five & forty". Therefore,
> > the
> > most direct translation of Line 1 would be like this:
> >
> > "At five & forty degrees the sky will burn"
> >
> > If you have a world map, try locating a major city very close to "5" > > degrees
> > longitude W. and "40" degrees latitude N. The city should be MADRID,
> > Spain... where the hijacked plane came from!

> GEE GORO, DIDN'T YOU SAY THAT THE NUMBERS REFER TO NYC AND/OR PARIS?
> Jeez, pick a pot and sit on it.

GEE PAUL, DO YOU THINK YOU MADE A GOOD POINT HERE? Heh, it's just what I
thought. I don't know if it's because you can't read or think. I thought I
stressed enough in the articles that the quatrains have many levels. I'm
wasting my time having to reply to you.

> You are running a great danger in
> discrediting all your past work with this one. This and the other
> ridiculous and almost comical interpretation of the quatrain that you
> posted a few days ago are putting your work into serious question.

Wait, where is your "logical" explanations? You're just stating your
opinions based on stupid, careless observations.

> It's Madrid, no it's NYC, no it's Paris.

Did I say "no"? Did I dismiss the previous interpretations? Now did I?
Huh? Did I? No, goddammit. I created OVERLAYS. God, this is getting
boring.

> Maybe you can correlate the
> row and section where the pipe bomb went off in Atlanta.

Wow, what a great idea! Thanks. You're a genius.

> Wait, I seem
> to recall that the phone booth where the bomb threat was called in from
> has the numbers 40 and 5. Maybe instead of degrees, they meant the
> temperature outside, which a shady phone booth at 1:00 am might be close
> to.

You konw, I think you're really misunderstanding my method. The reason, I
could go into the vaguer levels of connection is because the CWN
interpretation of VI-97 seemed to describe the TWA 800 incident. And the
3-way correlation method... Nah, forget it. I don't feel like repeating
myself. You're simply missing an important aspect of my method.

> > LINE 2 : "Fire To Approach The Great New City"
> >
> > In this case, the "new city" could refer to Miami... (I'm not sure, but
> > don't some people call Miami "the New York of the South"? Anyone know?)

> In all my years I have never heard of Miami being called the NYC of the
> south. Same for Atlanta, in case you are still wondering from your
> previous analysis.

It's obviously not widely known. Especially Miami, I'm not sure (I just
found one reference...), that's why I asked for clarification.

> > Well, like I said, the connection between VI-97 and the Iberia Airline
> > Flight
> > 6621alone is not strong, and the event itself is probably not that
> > significant, but it needs to be seen with the TWA Flight 800 incident.
> >It is
> > a good demonstration of a quatrain having many levels.

> Its a good demonstration of how someone can be so obsessed with making a
> connection that they will use unrelated events to reach a conclusion.
> Its comical.

Wait, where is your "logical" explanation? I just can't seem to find...

> Goro, you are so way off on this one

Wait, where is your "logical" explanation that you promised? You didn't lie,
did you?

> that I feel compelled to warn you
> that you are jeopardizing all your prior work on this overzealousness.

Oooohhh, you're right. I'm finished. I'm so scared... Hold me?

> Your previous interpretation of the quatrain suffers from so many
> fallacies that I can't even begin to list them,

That's right you can't, and you didn't. Your arguments were all a bunch of
subjectism and misunderstanding.

> but I might just pull it
> out and point it all out for you and everyone to see.

Do it, man. But I really hope it'll be a good intelligent criticism.

> I am not trying
> to ridicule you or flame you, especially since I consider most of your
> previous Analysis work to be well-done, but this one is just way off.

Ah ha.

Hey I enjoyed your rambling.

[bra...@mnw.net]

Goro Adachi wrote:
<snip>

Goro,

Most of us here enjoyed your work when it first came out. I felt that
next years hale-bopp connection was well done. However, I feel now (as
many others obviously do) that you became "impatient" for the events to
unfold. As a result, you created these "overlays", which we all read as
simply a way to CYA if one particular scenario doesn't pan out.

Reminds me of a joke where a fellow with ONLY a head was granted three,
and ONLY three wishes. For his first wish he asked for a neck and
torso...POOF...there it was. His next wish he asked for
arms...POOF...there they were. For his last wish he asked for
legs...POOF...there they were. The man was now complete for the first
time in his life. But alas, he became greedy and while forgetting that he
was granted three and ONLY three wishes, he wished to have
genitals....POOF...the man disappeared into oblivion, whereby bystanders
promptly noted -- "He should have QUIT while he was A HEAD."

Stick with your original themes -- we have all read them MULTIPLE times
and enjoyed it. This is not a flame -- but a suggestion from people that
had taken you and your work quite seriously.

Good luck.

[Goro Adachi]

Paul S wrote:

> Goro Adachi wrote:
>
> > Airliner vulnerability and the closeness in time, combined with
> > the "5 & 40
> > degrees" interpretation make an interesting connection.

> That is your ONLY strong point.

That's right.

> Unfortunately for you it's not nearly
> strong enough to hold up the britches as far as the rest of the
> arguement goes.

It was designed to incorporated into the TWA 800 analysis from the beginning,
and it wasn't a stand-alone connection.

> If you feel that defending the shoddy work you did is a waste of time,
> then go away.

No, I think YOUR shoddy criticism is a wasite of time and should go away.

> All I ask for is that if you think that you are right on
> this that you try and support it a little more than you did and this
> does not do it.

I didn't have to defend anything because there was nothing to defend against.

> > > You are running a great danger in
> > > discrediting all your past work with this one. This and the other
> > > ridiculous and almost comical interpretation of the quatrain that you
> > > posted a few days ago are putting your work into serious question.
> >
> > Wait, where is your "logical" explanations? You're just stating your
> > opinions based on stupid, careless observations.

> Whatever.

Whatever.

> What you did was run around in a circle in your article
> talking nothing but assumptions and fallacies and you based your entire
> arguement on that. That's why it crumbled.

In your dreams.

> > > It's Madrid, no it's NYC, no it's Paris.
> >
> > Did I say "no"? Did I dismiss the previous interpretations? Now did I?
> > Huh? Did I? No, goddammit. I created OVERLAYS. God, this is getting
> > boring.

> Overlays my ass.

Overylays-my-ass my ass.

> You assumed a ton of facts that were not indeed
> facts.

Ooohh, here is something interesting. And here is where you will embarrase
yourself. (I guess we'll meet in the other thread on this one.)

> Go back and do your research, or as someone else here suggested,
> start over and toss this away.

blah blah

> > You konw, I think you're really misunderstanding my method. The
> > reason, I
> > could go into the vaguer levels of connection is because the CWN
> > interpretation of VI-97 seemed to describe the TWA 800 incident. And the
> > 3-way correlation method... Nah, forget it. I don't feel like repeating
> > myself. You're simply missing an important aspect of my method.

> You know what, why don't YOU forget it. I understand your method
> perfectly.

Ah ha, ah ah, yeah, sure, I believe you. Of course.

> You read more and more abstract meanings into the quatrains
> and you draw out different conclusions.

No, I find parallels.

> The problem is that the
> conclusions you draw is based on wrong facts and basically bad
> assumptions.

What can I say, you're just wrong here.

> The other problem is that somehow I don't think Nostradamus, who wrote
> the prophecies as a WARNING, really meant them to be any vaguer than
> they are. You make it seem like you have the key to the whole puzzle
> when all you have is missing pieces.

What I presented in the article were SUPPORTING details and interpretations.

> > It's obviously not widely known. Especially Miami, I'm not sure (I just
> > found one reference...), that's why I asked for clarification.
>

> It's not widely known because it's not a fact.

It may not be. And I clearly didn't present it as a fact.

> > Wait, where is your "logical" explanation? I just can't seem to find...

> Where is yours? The burden of proof is on you and you have yet to
> deliver. You're the one making the wild claims, not me. You show me
> numbers on a map that might remotely relate to a quatrain and you want
> me to believe, and I tell you that the way you present it makes it very
> hard to swallow. And I'm not the only one.

Yeah, there is that dellusional "brazil" buy.

> > > that I feel compelled to warn you
> > > that you are jeopardizing all your prior work on this overzealousness.
> >
> > Oooohhh, you're right. I'm finished. I'm so scared... Hold me?

> I just hate to see your good work go to waste because your brain took a
> hike on this one.

No, I think you're just not compatible with symbolism. I used a lot of
symbolism this time because the original CWN interpretation was already
strong enough. All I needed to do was come up with as many supporting
interpretations as possible.

> > That's right you can't, and you didn't. Your arguments were all a
> > bunch of
> > subjectism and misunderstanding.

> Well, see the big post I left for you.

I will.

> > Hey I enjoyed your rambling.
>

> I'm still reading yours. You're funnier than I thought. In fact, your
> rambling and carelessness makes it easy to take these kinds of things
> apart.

We'll see :)

[Sal M. Andor]

Goro Adachi <ada...@cris.com> wrote:

Paul S wrote:

> Goro Adachi wrote:

Goro,

I quite honestly don't see any need for you to respond or
defend yourself against such base attacks.

You have stated your position. Now let history
prove you right. Relax and enjoy the ride.

Sal

[Gary S. Bekkum]

Goro,

Welcome to the Club. Just about every interpreter of Nostradamus has
made the mistake of welding current events to prophecies, because it is
so easy to manipulate them.

I understand what you mean by "multidimensional", but in this case the
only thing that is multidimensional is the human mind, which [under the
principal of synchronicity] can make connections where none were ever
intended.

Personally, I believe that Nostradamus offered his predictions not so
much as a warning to future generations, but more as a personal
testimony to his own ability to see the future. By recognizing events
written in the prophecies after the fact, it has ensured his fame for
many generations to come. Can you show me one example of how his
warnings were recognized and used to avert disaster? It certainly
didn't help any of the French Royal Family.

I applaud your attempts to correlate current events to the Prophecies.
As I have said before, only time will show us what is really intended by
them.

Gary