Trusting Xerobank? Look At Their Wiki
Ari Silverstein
Page down to "Does XeroBank have a support forum?"
Then for real shits n giggles to xB Browser "Why is it that sometimes
I can connect, other times I get a timeout error?"
Btw, a bunch of what is in this Topletzian like of bullshit is
patently *false*
E.g. Does XeroBank offer webmail?
"No. Webmail is extremely insecure, and *every* major webmail software
is *frequently* compromised."
Every fukken one, Topletz? Frequently? *LOL*
FYI:
Assclown spanking:
<http://www.wilderssecurity.com/showthread.php?p=1018578#post1018578>
Where is Xerobank - going on for over *5 months*
<http://www.wilderssecurity.com/showthread.php?t=281212>
--
ļæ½If you give me six lines written by the hand of the most honest of
men, I will find something in them which will hang him.ļæ½ ~Cardinal
Richelieu
Nathan See
> http://support.xerobank.com/wiki/doku.php?id=faq
>
> Page down to "Does XeroBank have a support forum?"
>
> Then for real shits n giggles to xB Browser "Why is it that sometimes
> I can connect, other times I get a timeout error?"
>
> Btw, a bunch of what is in this Topletzian like of bullshit is
> patently *false*
>
> E.g. Does XeroBank offer webmail?
>
> "No. Webmail is extremely insecure, and *every* major webmail software
> is *frequently* compromised."
>
> Every fukken one, Topletz? Frequently? *LOL*
>
> FYI:
>
> Assclown spanking:
>
> <http://www.wilderssecurity.com/showthread.php?p=1018578#post1018578>
>
> Where is Xerobank - going on for over *5 months*
>
> <http://www.wilderssecurity.com/showthread.php?t=281212>
Personally, I'm too frightened to e-mail the fellow and tell him to
get over here to answer these questions. However, if there is one
brave soul out there reading this, the Xerobank wizard helper/support
says to reach them at:
wizardsupport(at)xerobank(dot)com
EDIT: I meant to type "I am too busy" ;)
Nathan See
It's a classic Topletz argument (as has been noted by others as well,
Steve Topletz is his worse enemy when he takes on an irritating
condescending tone or belittles those who challenge him).
Nomen Nescio
Oh, you mean like Ari Silverstein?
1) His own worst enemy
2) Takes an irritating condescending tone or belittles those who challenge him.
Ari Silverstein, PooseyII...
Different sock puppets. Same guy.
Get a fucking clue.
Ari Silverstein
Call him.
He'll answer. lol
http://tinyurl.com/25a7yrb
--
http://fffff.at/tag/fuckgoogle/
Dave U. Random
> On Mon, 3 Jan 2011 16:45:02 +0100 (CET), Anonymous wrote:
>
>> DASSfox wrote:
>>
>>> On Mon, 3 Jan 2011 01:40:29 -0500, DASSfox wrote:
>>>
>>>> Genady Krishnikov it easy to tell by his Xerobank jealousys
>>>>
>>>> Now look at this where...
>>>>
>>>> <http://www.wilderssecurity.com/showpost.php?p=1018578&postcount=1>
>>>>
>>>> and this Ждать вашего ответа is a iknown Silverstein signature....
>>>
>>> More hate from Ari...
>>>
>>> http://www.wilderssecurity.com/showpost.php?p=1190124
>>
>> Wow. Thank you VERY much for posting those two links. Together they both
>> drive home the issue of Xerobank being nothing more than a thinly veiled
>> offshoot of a well known fraud and scam, and spotlight your own stupidity.
>>
>> I mean hell... who would be asstarded enough to post links that actually
>> PROVE beyond any reasonable doubt that the scam they're defending is a
>> real scam?
>>
>> Self-spank, much?
>>
>> *laugh*
>
> I see skipped over the PROOFS that I posted which are about Ari
> Silverstein making all effort to DESTROY Wilders Security Forum...
>
> THANKS
You know, Fox, you're as dumb as a post
but I'll give you credit on this one:
Ari Silverstein certainly did post under the name "Genady Prishnikov" on Wilders. Anyone with half a wit could see that. Sliverdick has numerous aliases on Wilders. He's a piece of shit.
So one more time class:
Stephen Gielda=Ari Silverstein=PooseyII=Genady Prishnokov.
Ari Silverstein The Troll Who Went Amuck
http://www.aviationkb.com/Uwe/Forum.aspx/piloting/12707/Ari-Silverstein-The-
nix
I feel like I'm in the "anonymity and absurdity" category of some
internet quiz bowl. Remember College Bowl? Like that, but the
participants are free to just call in. On acid.
Have any extra? ;) ;)
Ari Silverstein
> On 1/4/2011 1:07 AM, DASSfox wrote:
>> On Mon, 3 Jan 2011 16:45:02 +0100 (CET), Anonymous wrote:
>>
>>> DASSfox wrote:
>>>
>>>> On Mon, 3 Jan 2011 01:40:29 -0500, DASSfox wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> Genady Krishnikov it easy to tell by his Xerobank jealousys
>>>>>
>>>>> Now look at this where...
>>>>>
>>>>> <http://www.wilderssecurity.com/showpost.php?p=1018578&postcount=1>
>>>>>
>>>>> and this à –à ´à °Ñ‚ÑŒ à ²à °Ñˆà µà ³à ¾ à ¾Ñ‚à ²à µÑ‚à ° is a iknown Silverstein signature....
>>>>
>>>> More hate from Ari...
>>>>
>>>> http://www.wilderssecurity.com/showpost.php?p=1190124
>>>
>>> Wow. Thank you VERY much for posting those two links. Together they both
>>> drive home the issue of Xerobank being nothing more than a thinly veiled
>>> offshoot of a well known fraud and scam, and spotlight your own stupidity.
>>>
>>> I mean hell... who would be asstarded enough to post links that actually
>>> PROVE beyond any reasonable doubt that the scam they're defending is a
>>> real scam?
>>>
>>> Self-spank, much?
>>>
>>> *laugh*
>>
>> I see skipped over the PROOFS that I posted which are about Ari
>> Silverstein making all effort to DESTROY Wilders Security Forum...
>>
>> THANKS
>
> You know, Fox, you're as dumb as a post
> but I'll give you credit on this one:
>
> Ari Silverstein certainly did post under the name "Genady Prishnikov" on Wilders. Anyone with half a wit could see that. Sliverdick has numerous aliases on Wilders.
Sure did. lol
> So one more time class:
>
> Stephen Gielda=Ari Silverstein=PooseyII=Genady Prishnokov.
I'm a diverse guy.
*snicker*
God, you Anonymousies are soooo easy.
--
“If you give me six lines written by the hand of the most honest of
men, I will find something in them which will hang him.” ~Cardinal
Richelieu
DASSfox
nix your comments are not appreciated and it shows a lack of maturity
and respect and if you had any sort of computer experience then you
would know what it is I presented that is quite clear to see, that you
have failed to see.
Steve made his own comments in regards to WHOIS information, plus
being rude and disrespectful...
Next time guys, don't be so rude and acting like some hot shots when
you both seem to not have any clue and then start bashing.
I'm an easy going guy and I'm respectful of others so don't act like
jerks disrespecting people because I don't do this and I don't like it
and it's not right.
So I presented information on WHOIS, why don't the two of you explain
it, as I said it can't happen that I guess you think it can?
Here's what Steve said;
---------------------------------------------------------
Okay, so let me get this right. Because some servers have the same
whois registrant data or AS for the IP block, they are the same or
linked or ... ? As you dreaded earlier, here comes the simple
explanation.
Some of you who register for domains may be familiar with whois
privacy services. This happens when you do a whois on an IP, and it
isn't the same company operating the servers, or the same business, a
different company that is responsible for the registration.
Many major registration and server management companies offer this.
For example, idotz, 1&1, godaddy, etc. all have this. So if you
whois'd 100,000 godaddy domains that have whois privacy, they come
back with the same whois registrant data for some company.
You can see that here: GoDaddy Private Registration
Does that mean they are linked? Yes. They have the same company doing
their whois privacy on that server! However, I think your whois data
isn't updated. I had heard that MP wasn't using RHC anymore, but that
could be a domain controller issue, no telling. I'm unsure of which xb
servers have RHC for their whois, it may just be the www server
because we work with them for server bulletproofing. Why? That's easy.
We get 20 hacking attacks on our servers every minute. That is
51,840,000 hacking attempts per month. Guess how many succeed? I'll
give you a hint: XeroBank - Bank, X = Z.
Remember, when the choice is between a simple explanation or a vast
conspiracy, occams razor suggests to choose the simple explanation.
If you need some better digital private investigators, I can make some
recommendations. They cost a fortune, but they do really good work.
---------------------------------------------------------
LOOK AND READ CAREFULLY WHAT STEVE IS TALKING ABOUT. -----> PRIVACY
REGISTERED DOMAINS!
MY POINT IS STEVE IS TALKING ONLY ABOUT DOMAIN PRIVACY REGISTRATION
INFORMATION, I AM NOT! THE WHOIS INFORMATION I HAVE SHOWN IS NOT
PRIVACY REGISTERED! GO LOOK AT THE WHOIS ON ALL 3 DOMAINS THEY ARE NOT
PRIVACY REGISTERED AND YET ARE LINKED WITH SOME OF THE SAME DATA.
STEVE HOWEVER SEEMS TO BE POINTING THIS OUT BECAUSE OF PRIVACY
REGISTRATION WHEN THEY ARE NOT!
YES WITH PRIVACY REGISTERED DOMAINS THE REGISTRAR IS GOING TO KEEP
CERTAIN INFORMATION THE SAME, THAT IS WHY IT'S PRIVATE AND IT CAN
APPEAR TO LOOK SOMETHING LIKE THIS SAME, AS IT RELATES TO THE
REGISTRAR! LET ME SAY THAT AGAIN, PRIVACY INFORMATION WILL ONLY HAVE
THE SAME INFORMATION AS IT RELATES TO THE REGISTRAR! AS AN EXAMPLE
CONTACT INFORMATION IS GOING TO LOOK THE SAME BECAUSE THE REGISTRAR
WILL USE THEIR INFORMATION, BUT THEY ARE NOT GOING TO USE ANY
INFORMATION OUTSIDE OF SOMETHING LIKE THIS THAT MAKES YOU LOOK LIKE
THE SAME COMPANY, FROM ANOTHER COMPANY!
ONLY SOMEONE WITHOUT EXPERIENCE WOULD SEE AND THINK THIS, TO SUGGEST
THIS TO THE EXPERIENCED IS UTTER FOOOLISHNESS, TO MAKE THEM THINK THIS
IS WHY YOU LOOKED LINKED TO THE SAME BUSINESS OUTSIDE OF THE REGISTRAR
! BECAUSE REAL INFORMATION BEHIND THE PRIVACY WILL NOT LINK TO ANY
OTHER DIFFERENT COMPANY OUTSIDE OF THE REGISTRAR!
THE KEY WORDS HERE PEOPLE ARE 'OUTSIDE THE REGISTRAR', THAT A DOMAIN
REGISTRAR UNDER PRIVACY REGISTRATION IS NOT GOING TO LINK YOU TO AN
OUTSIDE COMPANY AS A MEANS OF PRIVACY!
LOOK at these links;
http://whois.domaintools.com/213.239.234.50 (Roque Holdings shown
listed below as operated by Cryptohippie with the same IP as
Xerobank.)
Look at Xerobanks information here; (WHAT IP)
http://www.whoishostingthis.com/xerobank.com
Now for that IP listed above showing for Xerobank, click the link
below and look at what information you see?
http://whois.domaintools.com/88.198.80.243
Odd Cryptohippie is show!
SORRY guys this is not how PRIVACY REGISTRATION works, if this is
Xerobank then Xerobank is listed not Cryptohippie!
Next LOOK at this REMARKS!
---> remarks: Operated by Roque Holdings Corporation.
Now if this 'Operated' is just what it means in plain English, then
Xerobanks and Cryptohippie are operated, by the same company.
Let's be clear here with this CHOICE of words ----> 'Operated' but
instead not chosen 'Hosted' and there is a difference!
Those 'remarks' are also not a means of explaining WHO the PRIVACY
REGISTRAR is so you know them, but explaining their position towards
who...
READ also all the REMARKS! (It reads as ONE SENTENCE of information
because it is!)
remarks: Operated by Roque Holdings Corporation.
remarks: Anonymizing networks for
remarks: Cryptohippie Inc., PA
remarks: Please contact in case of abuse.
On one line it reads just like this;
Operated by Roque Holdings Corporation Anonymizing networks for
Cryptohippie Inc., PA
A REGISTRAR, when you are doing a PRIVACY REGISTRATION does not
associate you, especially with an IP of a different company.
They also don't tell you that you are operated under the same company
too...
--
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(employer) cooker, camper, coder, consultant, cuntsman, cool as a
cucumber...Paul Fox www.dasfox.com http://about.me/dasfox Contact:
http://www.dasfox.com/blog/2009/05/~/contact.aspx
Nathan See
> nix your comments are not appreciated and it shows a lack of maturity
> and respect and if you had any sort of computer experience then you
> would know what it is I presented that is quite clear to see, that you
> have failed to see.
>
> Steve made his own comments in regards to WHOIS information, plus
> being rude and disrespectful...
>
> Next time guys, don't be so rude and acting like some hot shots when
> you both seem to not have any clue and then start bashing.
I agree with you, Fox. Both sides are capable of dismissing the other
side.
DASfox, the issue is that there is no reason why domains for different
privacy providers should be registered under the same entity, even if
they're going through the same servers (possibly because of lack of
any superb privacy alternatives). Am I correct?
Another still outstanding issue are those crazy connections to thesis
writing services on some of the Xerobank pages (if they're still
there).
The last outstanding issue is whether there's any set date for
Xerobank to reopen its forum.
I doubt if anyone has bothered to e-mail xerobank about any of this
and see what they say (or report that they're not replying). I'm all
for the transparency that public discussions on Wilders promotes, but
there's no reason why that can't be achieved by first emailing, then
posting the results of whatever reply is received from Xerobank. I
think in most cases we're too lazy to make the effort to contact
Xerobank.
here'smypants
Like on bad acid, IMHO
Anyway, I'm very tired of haggling over this issue. If it bothers you
that there may be associations among XeroBank and these other
anonymity providers, find another provider that you like. If that
doesn't bother you, and especially if it reassures you, be joyous. Me,
I can't help it, I'm in love with Steve Topletz even if he is not
bisexual.
Nathan See
Here'smypants aka Heirophant, people obviously have the right to
pursue and uncover what they can about these anonymity organisations
whether or not they want to be customers.
As for the bisexual thing, that's gross as hell.
DASSfox
here'smypants you also failed to see what it is I've shown you...
even when Steve made his own comments in regards to WHOIS
information...
plus being rude and disrespectful...
I'm a Tech give Tech respect...
THANKS
nix
DAASfox, wow ;) ;0)
DASSfox
Here's what I'm saying, that Steve is trying to say that if you use
PRIVACY for a Domain Registration it's going to make different
companies look related and that is incorrect.
Here let's further examine this;
Here is a PRIVACY registered domain called POWERUSENET.COM look at
their WHOIS information as shown below;
Domain Name: POWERUSENET.COM
Registrar: TUCOWS INC.
Whois Server: whois.tucows.com
Referral URL: http://domainhelp.opensrs.net
Name Server: NS1.LIVEWIRESERVICESINC.COM
Name Server: NS2.LIVEWIRESERVICESINC.COM
Status: clientTransferProhibited
Status: clientUpdateProhibited
Updated Date: 19-oct-2010
Creation Date: 12-nov-2003
Expiration Date: 18-oct-2020
Here is a PRIVACY registered domain called GIGANEWS.COM look at their
WHOIS information as shown below;
Domain Name: GIGANEWS.COM
Registrar: TUCOWS INC.
Whois Server: whois.tucows.com
Referral URL: http://domainhelp.opensrs.net
Name Server: NS1.AMS.GIGANEWS.COM
Name Server: NS1.DCA.GIGANEWS.COM
Status: clientDeleteProhibited
Status: clientTransferProhibited
Status: clientUpdateProhibited
Updated Date: 30-sep-2010
Creation Date: 27-jan-1998
Expiration Date: 26-jan-2020
Now I don't know if these two are the same company they were the only
two I could whip up real fast to show you what this PRIVACY
REGISTRATION looks like and what it's all about, regardless if they
are related or not, but let's pretend they aren't...
The POINT is, these are the ONLY similarities;
Registrar: TUCOWS INC.
Whois Server: whois.tucows.com
Referral URL: http://domainhelp.opensrs.net
And based on those similarities alone, which are the same they do not
link you to look like any other company in anyway as Steve was
pointing out over PRIVACY REGISTERED DOMAINS
Now let's further look at them, to then see a break down even further;
http://www.whoishostingthis.com/powerusenet.com
powerusenet.com is hosted by 1&1 and I happen to of used them for
hosting several years ago so I know who they are, a HOSTING PROVIDER.
Look now below at the IP information to further show you the
relationship of 1&1
http://whois.domaintools.com/74.208.171.41
Next let's look at Giganews;
http://www.whoishostingthis.com/giganews.com
From the link above they HOST themselves and let's look at the IP you
see there at this link below;
http://whois.domaintools.com/216.196.100.135
Now from all this information above do you see anything for two
companies that have used PRIVACY REGISTRATION that links them in any
way together? The answer is ----> NO!
Now let's go back to Xerobank so you that you will all finally get a
clearer picture.
LOOK at this link; ( WHAT IS THE IP YOU SEE & ALSO WHO DOES IT SAY IT
HOSTS THEM?)
http://www.whoishostingthis.com/xerobank.com
Now let's look up that Xerobank IP;
http://whois.domaintools.com/88.198.80.243
Now from the above information we see an association here to Xerobank.
Look at what the 'remarks' section show for the above link;
remarks: Operated by Roque Holdings Corporation.
remarks: Anonymizing networks for
remarks: Cryptohippie Inc., PA
remarks: Please contact in case of abuse.
Then here is that Cryptohippie.net Xerobank gets linked to with their
information;
http://www.whoishostingthis.com/cryptohippie.net
NOW look
Cryptohippie.net
http://whois.domaintools.com/188.40.75.117
Cryptohippie.com (Now in this information Roque Holdings Corporation
comes up linking it to Roque which is linked in Xerobank information
to .net, quite interesting.)
http://whois.domaintools.com/78.47.105.60
Also one last interesting note here that I just now noticed is that
Germany Zonice Menk & Fieseler Gbr is listed as the Host but Roque
Holdings Corporation comes up as 'Operated' by'. This might seem to
appear as very small information, but very crucial to how they all get
linked up to this one name...
So they are either hosted or owned by the same company, but because
Steve, with his information has been quite lacking to the truth it
raises some doubt here...
And if you are a specialist as you've claimed to be, then why not come
out and let us know if you are hosted or owned by the same company,
because a person of this level of experience would know this, yet the
information about this seems to go unavoided at all costs with what
appear like cover ups trying to explain it away.
I call out Steve Topletz...
To talk Tech...
Anonymous
news:40348c1ccc7573bb...@anonymitaet-im-inter.net:
> So one more time class:
>
> Stephen Gielda=Ari Silverstein=PooseyII=Genady Prishnokov.
>
> Ari Silverstein The Troll Who Went Amuck
>
I thought Ari was Frank Camper!
Anonymous
inter.net>
Dave U. Random <anon...@anonymitaet-im-inter.net> wrote:
>
> Stephen Gielda=Ari Silverstein=PooseyII=Genady Prishnokov.
! Stephen Gielda=Ari Silverstein??? LOL! Oh, man. LOL! God, you
fucking people are so fucked up. Jesus that's funny!
Ari Silverstein
Add that one. Ask me about getting scalded in Leavenworth if you don't
believe me.
http://stanooch.tripod.com/mercgrads.html
--
Ari's Fun Times!
http://tr.im/hrFG
Motto: Run, rabbit, Run!
Ari Silverstein
*HEY* motha fucker don't you laugh at me.
/steve `
DASSfox
"Ari" had to change his identity to "Duane Ritter".
"Ari" aka Frank J. Camper is a redneck neo-nazi with connections to
the KKK and spent years in jail for a serious crime. He used to run a
mercenary training camp for wannabe terrorists, sometimes referred to
as a "glorified paint-balling training camp". He was eventually
apprehended by the FBI and prosecuted for a serious crime committed
in California...
Frank J. Camper's sordid, criminal life:
<http://thegallopingbeaver.blogspot.com/2006/08/terrorist-threat-boys-from-birmingham.html>
"Camper was arrested in 1986 and charged with conspiracy to blow up
the cars of three women in California. He was found guilty and
sentenced to nine years in prison. On appeal, one of the charges was
overturned. That isn't the telling part of that tale though. During
the trial and again during the appeal he claimed to be a high-level
US government intelligence agent. He was invited to prove it. He
could produce no evidence nor a credible witness to verify his claim
and the assertion was dismissed..."
More here about Frank J. Camper's <Merc School>:
http://stanooch.tripod.com/mercgrads.html
NY Times article about Frank J. Camper:
<http://query.nytimes.com/gst/fullpage.html?res=9A0DE5D81F3DF932A15756C0A960948260>
Frank J. Camper's appeal against 9 years imprisonment:
<http://www.cs.cmu.edu/afs/cs/usr/wbardwel/public/nfalist/us_v_hedgcorth.txt>
Listen to (5min radio interview) Frank J. Camper stepping on glass:
http://archives.cbc.ca/society/crime_justice/clips/5700/
Ari Silverslime, er sorry Frank J. Camper, posted with a sigline
containing "Meet Ari" with a link to a photo of: "Kinky" Friedman
<http://www.lioncity.net/buddhism/uploads/1156281126/gallery_414_82_1157190589.jpg>
"Ari" aka can now be traced to Franklin J. Camper with certainty. He
outed himself giving absolute proof Ari is the real Franklin J.
Camper...
"Ari" claims he lived in Duluth GA, and is a racer. Here is Frank
Camper on You Tube. Duluth is near Atlanta....
http://www.youtube.com/user/fjcamper
"Ari" said this is his website. MORE PROOFS...
http://retroracing.biz/modules/wfchannel/index.php?pagenum=2
Magnus liber magnum malum...
THANKS
Ari Silverstein
A very interesting post.
It might benefit from the addition of a 100 line sig chock full of the
wildest assertions stated in the most self-assured, if delusional,
way.
THANKS lol
Ari Silverstein
You're a new expression of stupid, I'll hand you that, Paulie.
DASSfox
That's all you got, and nothing more, Franklin J. Camper/Ritter?
But, here's the thing. Don't you see? It doesn't "only exist" in my
brain. It also exists in your brain, as well...
In fact, you're the one making a big deal out of it. Why? Because I
have outed you fully...
You're the one who's obsessed with having me believe that "Ari"
is not one of Franklin J. Camper/Ritter's sockpuppets.
If you really weren't Franklin J. Camper/Ritter, then you wouldn't
care one way or the other what I thought, about *anything*...
As long as you keep doing that, I'll be reassured that I'm right, and
that you're a liar. And, well, we all know that Franklin J.
Camper/Ritter is first and foremost, a very big liar...
And a killer...ask Trowbridge Ford...
Ari Silverstein
Cool down, Paul, you may want to think first who you are fucking with
here. Being serious now, *deadly* serious.
DASSfox
Ah, Ford's name got you all pissed off, right, Camper/Ritter...?
"Colonel Micha "Mike" Harari was then running a network in Central
America for Panama's Manuel Noreiga, working to help OLIVER NORTH's
Contras receive guerrilla training, and arrange arms purchases in
Europe and Israel.
In the process, Harari became involved with *FRANK CAMPER's* Operation
Pegasus - what was to train Contras to conduct assassinations, deep
within the Sandanista ranks. Harari ultimately was working with such
unsavory characters as Félix Rodríguez, "Che" Guevara's killer, and
Felix Vidal aka Charles Morgan, the unsuccessful recruiter of
mercenaries and Nazis in Stockholm and London to assassinate Palme...
<http://codshit.blogspot.com/search?q=%22frank+camper%22>
You are nailed...
Assasin, a nobody, a CIA grunt...
UNITE
DASSfox
THREATENING ME...?
Here's more about you both Frank Camper and Duane Ritter...
"North concentrated on stifling blowback from operations in Central
America, especially by Jack Terrell, Peter Glibbery, and Steven Carr
of Tom Posey's Civilian Military Assistance which had been seeking
mercenaries in Britain. They had become so disaffected by CMA's
attempts to assassinate Contra Southern Front leader Eden Pastora
*(Operation Pegasus), the brainchild of CIA's Frank Camper* which
forced their expulsion from Honduras when its President Reagan learned
about it...
Stings doesn't it...
Want more...?
Nomen Nescio
Ah... And now the threats from Ari Silverstein.
Anonymous
You know, Fox, you're as dumb as a post
but I'll give you credit on this one too.
You have Silverslime dead on.
DASSfox
I know...
Watch the killer squirm...
Same Frank Camper "Ari" and Duane Ritter who attacks Bear Bottoms...
Who is guilty of much less...
THANKS
DASSfox
Means nothing to me except I am RIGHT...
Pathetic looser...
Nomen Nescio
No. You're just a lying sarcastic prick.
And you are Cotse.
What a fucking endorsement you are.
Ari Silverstein
> On 1/4/2011 9:37 PM, Ari Silverstein wrote:
>> On Wed, 5 Jan 2011 03:50:04 +0100 (CET), Dave U. Random wrote:
>>
>>> On 1/4/2011 1:07 AM, DASSfox wrote:
>>>> On Mon, 3 Jan 2011 16:45:02 +0100 (CET), Anonymous wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> DASSfox wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> On Mon, 3 Jan 2011 01:40:29 -0500, DASSfox wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Genady Krishnikov it easy to tell by his Xerobank jealousys
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Now look at this where...
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> <http://www.wilderssecurity.com/showpost.php?p=1018578&postcount=1>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> and this à–à´à°Ñ‚ÑŒ à²à°Ñˆàµà³à¾ à¾Ñ‚à²àµÑ‚à° is a iknown Silverstein signature....
>>>>>>
>>>>>> More hate from Ari...
>>>>>>
>>>>>> http://www.wilderssecurity.com/showpost.php?p=1190124
>>>>>
>>>>> Wow. Thank you VERY much for posting those two links. Together they both
>>>>> drive home the issue of Xerobank being nothing more than a thinly veiled
>>>>> offshoot of a well known fraud and scam, and spotlight your own stupidity.
>>>>>
>>>>> I mean hell... who would be asstarded enough to post links that actually
>>>>> PROVE beyond any reasonable doubt that the scam they're defending is a
>>>>> real scam?
>>>>>
>>>>> Self-spank, much?
>>>>>
>>>>> *laugh*
>>>>
>>>> I see skipped over the PROOFS that I posted which are about Ari
>>>> Silverstein making all effort to DESTROY Wilders Security Forum...
>>>>
>>>> THANKS
>>>
>>> You know, Fox, you're as dumb as a post
>>> but I'll give you credit on this one:
>>>
>>> Ari Silverstein certainly did post under the name "Genady Prishnikov" on Wilders. Anyone with half a wit could see that. Sliverdick has numerous aliases on Wilders.
>>
>> Sure did. lol
>>
>>> So one more time class:
>>>
>>> Stephen Gielda=Ari Silverstein=PooseyII=Genady Prishnokov.
>>
>> I'm a diverse guy.
>>
>> *snicker*
>>
>> God, you Anonymousies are soooo easy.
>
> No. You're just a lying sarcastic prick.
>
> And you are Cotse.
Yes!
> What a fucking endorsement you are.
As good as "I" can.
/steve
Nathan See
Now I understand. It's a good point. If a Xerobank person ever comes
back on here, they should be asked. If they don't come back here,
someone might make the effort to e-mail them and see if they'll reply.
In any case, it's a standing mystery that xerobank should explain. I
agree with ya no matter how many dumb posts you put up.
DASSfox
No this is wow...
<http://platanalytics.com/wp-content/uploads/2010/12/show_image_NpAdvSinglePhoto.php_.jpg>
Can't read it can't see it except tough shit Pakitowelhead...
PEACE
nix
The U.S. media “is not publishing the station chief’s name because he
remains undercover and his name is classified…”
Welcome home, *Jonathan Banks*.
Here’s to working toward the goal that, in regard to outing each of
your successors, the attitude in Pakistan is:
Ditto.
:) ;o)
--
Don't FUCK with me. I'm tuff. And stupid but don't dare FUCK with me.
nix
What we have here again is a failure to communicate, DASSfox. The
point is, we have no way to determine the relationships under Roque
Holdings. Until we do, I'd rather save the innuendo and grand
conspiracy claims for, say, Abraxas. And if I have to pick between xb
and anonymizer, I'm back at the quiz bowl. Now, let's get our lockout
buzzers ready: ;)
Using accepted tenets of complexity theory, a theory that treats
organizations and firms as collections of strategies and structures,
assign xb and Anonymizer to the acronym that best describes the
essence of their form, or in the vernacular, their "gestalt" :
A) CIA
B) MIA
C) TBA
D) WTF
And to make it fun, this can be one of those "tossup" questions. That
means only one person from your team gets to answer.
Query or Queer-y or QueerEye? ;) ;0)
LunchBox
> On Wed, 5 Jan 2011 11:32:46 +0100 (CET), Nomen Nescio wrote:
>
>> On 1/4/2011 9:37 PM, Ari Silverstein wrote:
>>> On Wed, 5 Jan 2011 03:50:04 +0100 (CET), Dave U. Random wrote:
>>>
>>>> On 1/4/2011 1:07 AM, DASSfox wrote:
>>>>> On Mon, 3 Jan 2011 16:45:02 +0100 (CET), Anonymous wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> DASSfox wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> On Mon, 3 Jan 2011 01:40:29 -0500, DASSfox wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Genady Krishnikov it easy to tell by his Xerobank jealousys
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Now look at this where...
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> <http://www.wilderssecurity.com/showpost.php?p=1018578&postcount=1>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> and this à –à ´à °Ñ‚ÑŒ à ²à °Ñˆà µà ³à ¾ à ¾Ñ‚à ²à µÑ‚à ° is a iknown Silverstein signature....
*Originally Posted by PooseyII aka Steve Gielda aka "Ari-Frank Camper*
"I have studied the economics of the privacy business since 1998, have
worked in and around it, know how to staff it, what the various levels
of clientele and revenue points mean in terms of financial success. It
is much like any (IT) business, there is a small scale op that is very
nicely profitable, run with one or two people, no marketing except
word-of-mouth and a functional website. Volunteers round out the
service/help functions."
So....all we hear about is Cotse, Cotse, Cotse and earlier it was
about hanging out in Usenet this and that....we all know Steve Gielda
is a longtime Usenet lover and is the owner/operator of Cotse (with
volunteers!). So, you wanna just be on the up and up? As many problems
as I have with the Xerobank way of doing business, at least Topletz
had the guts to be upfront about who he is and his relationship with
the company.
If what you wrote about above in the quote box is true, it's pretty
obvious.
Signed,
"Lunchturds"
--
I am known as LockBox on the Wilders Security forums. pls do not
say bad words or do anything to frighten me. I am tender.
Ari Silverstein
Then there is nothing I can say, Sherlock.
> Signed,
>
> "Lunchturds"
With sausage gravy?
Genady Prishnikov :)
Anonymous
> You're a new expression of stupid, I'll hand you that, Paulie.
And yet as butt stupid as the witless buffoon is, he *still* managed to
pragslap your worthless ass. Damned thorough job owning you too,
Sliverdick.
*snicker*
DASSfox
Well here's something even better for your curiosity that no one seems
to have mentioned...
Take a look again at this...;
http://www.whoishostingthis.com/xerobank.com
(Click on the link that says Visit Roque Holding Inc now)
Clicking the link will take you to who is hosting or owning them, it's
as simple as that and what URL do you get? ----> meshmx.com
Guess what information is listed for meshmx.com...?
Meshmx.com is a domain controlled by five name servers at
mydyndns.org. Having a total of ten IP numbers. Some of them are on
the same IP network. The primary name server is ns1.mydyndns.org.
Incoming mail for meshmx.com is handled by one mail server at
meshmx.com themselves...
Do you guys even know what dyndns.org is...?
Well let's make this simple, look at this Xerobank page...;
XeroBank is a brand of Xero Networks AG, a privately held corporation
formed in the Republic of Panama...
Well what other information do you have about where this company is or
part of it...?
So based on all the high Tech talk Xerobank and Steve gives it leads
many to believe it has the servers or services in Panama...,
After all why not and why even bring it up if you're not possibly
trying to steer people to this belief...?
So one fact I've just uncovered over meshmx.com, aka Roque Holding
Inc, having their DNS controlled somewhere by dyndns.org...
Do any of you know how stupid that is for this supposed High Tech VPN
service...?
Ask me, I will explain for noobs...
Don't get me totally wrong here dyndns.org offers something good for
what it is, but at the technical level of SECURITY we are talking
about for what Xerobank is suppose to be representing you don't use
dyndns.org...
NEVER...
dyndns.org offers a professional service, yes, but the simplest way
this can be explained is when you are at the supposed level, caliber
of technical expertise of this Xerobank operation, then all I can
really say to those that don't really know, is that Xerobank is
suppose to be WAY BEYOND their level...
Wizerd Steve Topletz...BUNCH of whooey...
THANKS
Nathan See
That's good information and supports what I've come to believe -- that
they're purposely staying off the Wilders forum because they know
they'll likely get trounced if they dare appear! So they help you if
you need help with using the product and e-mail them, while purposely
ignoring everything else. It's very disappointing.
DASSfox
One last thing, unless someone brings up something I may of
overlooked...
*WHAT DOES BASICALLY XEROBANK OFFER?*
Well here is what their 'About' page says; (LOOK carefully at the
words in BOLD
About XeroBank
XeroBank is a brand of Xero Networks AG, a privately held corporation
formed in the Republic of Panama. We specialize in data privacy goods
and services aimed at consumer, corporate, and government clients.
XeroBank offers only the highest in quality, so it is created to be
sound not only in security design, but also in corporate strategy, to
protect the privacy of our clients. Our offerings include only the
strongest and proven privacy technologies. We see no reason why
security should be complicated or inconvenient, so we focus on
hassle-free products for our clients.
Now look at the WHOIS for Xerobank...;
*Is anyone getting this...?*
That WHOIS information you just read and HOW that does not even come
close to what all the words in BOLD, read as, state?
Well, let's ME break down those words for NOOBS and look them over...
1. A company that claims to SPECIALIZE in DATA PRIVACY, even for
CORPORATE AND GOVERNMENT CLIENTS = HONEYPOT POTENTIAL...
2. Highest in quality MEANS top quality squack...
3. Strongest and proven privacy technologies MEANS what it says...
Well, when you add up 1-3 and then do a WHOIS on a very specialized
company at this level...
Who does not even have their domain PRIVACY REGISTERED to protect the
interest of this company and clients...
Even with a toll free number you can call, I'm sorry there is nothing
special going on here at all...
What this boils down to, when you write up such an ELABORATE 'About'
section of the HIGH LEVEL of TECHNICAL expertise that you claim and
you don't even cover the absolute basics in your business by
registering your domain privately that really goes to show absurd this
really is...HONEYPOT?
For those reading, even if you have little to no computing experience
to really understand this...
Then does this make sense...?
Why should we ask you...
ASK ME....
Do you really believe that a company of this HIGH LEVEL of TECHNOLOGY
offering a PRIVACY business would not make their own DOMAIN
information PRIVATE...?
Don't you think that makes absolute sense...?
Well it better because it's the absolute truth via DASSFox...!
So here it is one last way...for Noobs and non-NOOBS...
You say you offer privacy, then you start at the bottom like any
business using the tools to your advantage, taking you to the top, and
the absolute bottom in this situation is the registration of your
domain, as PRIVATE, it doesn't get any lower then this...
Where are you now...? MIDDLE...
And the unwritten rule here, for those concerned over matters of
privacy, Techs like me...
Well this is just BASIC 101 Schooling of Domain Privacy...,
I TEACH the course as I TEACH it here...
That some big hot shot company failed to follow...?
MEANS HONEYPOT *PROOF*
DASSfox
One last thing...
1. PSPs
Most Payment Service Providers will not accept you as a customer if
you're using anonymous domain or company information. And without a a
serious PSP it's difficult to run an IT-company...*MORE PROOF*...
2. Certificates
Some certificates require company confirmation, both via domain
address and phone call-backs....MORE PROOF...
3. Import/Export regulations
If your dealing with strong crypto products (in some countries) you
need to sign a regulation contract, and confirm the company
identity...Yep you guessed it MORE PROOF...
4. Conspiracy theories
If you have an anonymous domain it will just end up in speculations
who's actually running the business, e.g., Truecrypt have some
experience with this problem. It's also easier for someone to register
anonymous domains as honeypots. That may have been the case in the
Heartland-case below, the feds created their own VPN-service just to
catch the bad guys...HONEYPOT PROOF...
PROOFING ARTICLE
<http://www.wired.com/threatlevel/2009/08/tjx-hacker-charged-with-heartland/>
I would NOT recommend ANY company to use a privacy registrated
domain...,
At least if they are operating in the security industry...
*END OF DISCUSSION* Tech talk over...
DASSfox
One more thing...
I have GIVEN FREE good information...
But having a privacy registered domain isn't about being anonymous
it's about being private is all with company information...
I don't see the relation fits with 1-3 in regards to 'Privacy
Registration' and providing such information...
I would love to see actual information, links to such information that
states you can't be 'Privacy Registered', especially in all parts of
the world...
Please show some if you can...
THANKS