Obama's brother arrested for drug possession. Not unexpected from the brother of the man that admits cocaine use.
Kate_G
Maybe he should pull that cloud over and walk back to reality.
President Obama's Half-Brother George Arrested
January 31, 2009 3:27 PM
The White House had no comment Saturday on the arrest in Kenya of
President Barack Obama's half-brother George for possession of
marijuana and resisting arrest.
President Obama barely knows George, 26, who lives in a home somewhat
more modest than the White House in Huruma, a suburb of Nairobi,
Kenya.
George is thought to be the youngest of at least eight half-siblings
the President has.
Some of President Obama's paternal relatives -- though not George --
came to Washington, D.C., for the inaugural, most notably "Grandma
Sarah" Obama, the stepmother of Obama's Kenyan-born father Barack
Obama Sr., who on the Sunday before the inauguration feasted with the
soon-to-be first family, their friends, several top Obama aides and
Oprah Winfrey.
Kenyan Police Chief Joshua Omokulongolo told the Associated Press that
George had one joint on him.
"He is not a drug peddler," Omokulongolo said. "But it's illegal, it's
a banned substance."
George Obama, 26, is scheduled to appear in court Monday.
CNN quoted George saying, from his jail cell, "They took me from my
home. I don't know why they are charging me."
http://blogs.abcnews.com/politicalpunch/2009/01/president-ob-15.html
jayp...65@gmail.com
His inexperienced brother is going to ruin this country. I can
see it already.
JTEM
> The White House had no comment Saturday on the
> arrest in Kenya of President Barack Obama's
> half-brother George for possession of marijuana
> and resisting arrest.
Ironically, I couldn't think of a better time for him to
submit his proposal to legalize Marijuana. He could
use his brother's arrest as an example of the money
& resources we could save, even as we stimulated
the economy and create new tax revenue streams.
Kate_G
> Kate_G <kate3...@gmail.com> wrote:
> > The White House had no comment Saturday on the
> > arrest in Kenya of President Barack Obama's
> > half-brother George for possession of marijuana
> > and resisting arrest.
>
> Ironically, I couldn't think of a better time for him to
> submit his proposal to legalize Marijuana.
That's the stupidest statement I've heard in a while.
I take it you're a pathetic addict?
> He could
> use his brother's arrest as an example of the money
> & resources we could save, even as we stimulated
> the economy and create new tax revenue streams.
And lets legalize heroin and murder while we're at it.
Ray Fischer
>On Feb 1, 6:54 pm, JTEM <jte...@gmail.com> wrote:
>> Kate_G <kate3...@gmail.com> wrote:
>> > The White House had no comment Saturday on the
>> > arrest in Kenya of President Barack Obama's
>> > half-brother George for possession of marijuana
>> > and resisting arrest.
>>
>> Ironically, I couldn't think of a better time for him to
>> submit his proposal to legalize Marijuana.
>
>That's the stupidest statement I've heard in a while.
>I take it you're a pathetic addict?
Marijuana isn't addictive.
>> He could
>> use his brother's arrest as an example of the money
>> & resources we could save, even as we stimulated
>> the economy and create new tax revenue streams.
>
>And lets legalize heroin and murder while we're at it.
Marijuana doesn't kill people.
--
Ray Fischer
rfis...@sonic.net
Kate
wrote:
><lol> "I don't know why they are charging me" George Obama
>
>Maybe he should pull that cloud over and walk back to reality.
So does this mean your siblings can be expected to abuse children and
flunk lie detector tests?
Kate_G
> Kate_G <kate3...@gmail.com> wrote:
> >On Feb 1, 6:54 pm, JTEM <jte...@gmail.com> wrote:
> >> Kate_G <kate3...@gmail.com> wrote:
> >> > The White House had no comment Saturday on the
> >> > arrest in Kenya of President Barack Obama's
> >> > half-brother George for possession of marijuana
> >> > and resisting arrest.
>
> >> Ironically, I couldn't think of a better time for him to
> >> submit his proposal to legalize Marijuana.
>
> >That's the stupidest statement I've heard in a while.
> >I take it you're a pathetic addict?
>
> Marijuana isn't addictive.
BULLSHIT, Ray Pure BULLSHIT!!!
As a healthcare professional I see it all the time. Marijuana is a
psychological addiction as
opposed to being a physical addiction but an addiction none the less.
A patient of mine claims
he spent 500 dollars a month on it and couldn't stop. People will rob
and steal to get it just
like any other addiction. Besides it's ILLEGAL and Obama's idiot
family shouldn't be breaking
the established laws should they?
>
> >> He could
> >> use his brother's arrest as an example of the money
> >> & resources we could save, even as we stimulated
> >> the economy and create new tax revenue streams.
>
> >And lets legalize heroin and murder while we're at it.
>
> Marijuana doesn't kill people.
It causes people to rob and steal to support their habit.
Just like heroin or any other addictive drug.
bushlyed
You are equating heroin and murder with marijuana
BDK
@r41g2000prr.googlegroups.com>, kate...@gmail.com says...
BWHAHAHAHA! Talk about over the top!!
--
BDK
BDK Klan leader?
kOOk Magnet!
NJJ CLUB #1
Shillmaster
JTEM
> On Feb 1, 6:54 pm, JTEM <jte...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> > Ironically, I couldn't think of a better time for him to
> > submit his proposal to legalize Marijuana.
>
> That's the stupidest statement I've heard in a while.
That's too bad. You should make it home for family
dinners more often.
> I take it you're a pathetic addict?
Nope. In fact, I hate the stuff. I can't even stand the smell.
And I don't very much like Obumma, either. But Marijuana
is not just a victimless crime, it's a retarded crime.
California alone estimates that it spend more than $150
million dollars enforcing the anti-Marijuana laws, and
yet there isn't any logical reason for it. If there's health
concerns the're certainly so far less than alcohol that the
comparison is laughable. And, unlike alcohol, marijuana
DOES NOT promote anti-social behavior -- like violence.
So if all we ever accomplished by legalizing Marijuana is
to steer some people away from alcohol, then we'd still
be better off.
Kate
Tomorrow we will rob the neighbors.....zzzzzzzzzzzz
Ospr...@hotmail.com
> On Mon, 2 Feb 2009 00:08:40 -0500, BDK <TopSh...@sanity.com> wrote:
> >In article <283ed0a5-7226-406c-8919-ff4edaea4bd9
Laugh all you want, but she is right...up to a point.
It's not addictive; however, it is psychological habit for many
users. And depending on the person, some people will rob and steal in
order to support their habit, including smoking pot.
I see hundreds of people in the prisons today going to drug counseling
classes.
W Spilman
"Kate_G" <kate...@gmail.com> wrote in message
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On Feb 1, 8:05 pm, rfisc...@sonic.net (Ray Fischer) wrote:
> Kate_G <kate3...@gmail.com> wrote:
> >On Feb 1, 6:54 pm, JTEM <jte...@gmail.com> wrote:
> >> Kate_G <kate3...@gmail.com> wrote:
> >> > The White House had no comment Saturday on the
> >> > arrest in Kenya of President Barack Obama's
> >> > half-brother George for possession of marijuana
> >> > and resisting arrest.
>
> >> Ironically, I couldn't think of a better time for him to
> >> submit his proposal to legalize Marijuana.
>
> >That's the stupidest statement I've heard in a while.
> >I take it you're a pathetic addict?
>
> Marijuana isn't addictive.
BULLSHIT, Ray Pure BULLSHIT!!!
>As a healthcare professional I see it all the time.<
A "healthcare professional?" Are you an MD, or do you
just sweep out the office after everybody leaves? Either way,
you know nothing about marijuana that has any basis in science.
Your opinions, prejudices, and un-educated observations don't
count for shit.
WS
Kenny McCormack
Liberal Whisperer
I guess alcohol doesn't "kill" people either you fucking nimrod.
Tater Gumfries
I call bullshit. Citations are in order, and no, your assertion is not
a citation.
Tater
Bill Gamelson
"W Spilman" <fa...@stink.com> wrote in message
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>>
>> Marijuana isn't addictive.
>
> BULLSHIT, Ray Pure BULLSHIT!!!
Actually, he is correct. No evidence has ever been established showing any
addictive properties of marijuana. Not one shred.
>
> >As a healthcare professional I see it all the time.<
>
> A "healthcare professional?" Are you an MD, or do you
> just sweep out the office after everybody leaves? Either way,
> you know nothing about marijuana that has any basis in science.
> Your opinions, prejudices, and un-educated observations don't
> count for shit.
As if your opinions not supported by any meical or scientific evidence
should count? What state are you licensed to practice medicine in?
Kate_G
> "Kate_G" <kate3...@gmail.com> wrote in message
>
> news:283ed0a5-7226-406c...@r41g2000prr.googlegroups.com...
> On Feb 1, 8:05 pm, rfisc...@sonic.net (Ray Fischer) wrote:
>
> > Kate_G <kate3...@gmail.com> wrote:
> > >On Feb 1, 6:54 pm, JTEM <jte...@gmail.com> wrote:
> > >> Kate_G <kate3...@gmail.com> wrote:
> > >> > The White House had no comment Saturday on the
> > >> > arrest in Kenya of President Barack Obama's
> > >> > half-brother George for possession of marijuana
> > >> > and resisting arrest.
>
> > >> Ironically, I couldn't think of a better time for him to
> > >> submit his proposal to legalize Marijuana.
>
> > >That's the stupidest statement I've heard in a while.
> > >I take it you're a pathetic addict?
>
> > Marijuana isn't addictive.
>
> BULLSHIT, Ray Pure BULLSHIT!!!
>
> >As a healthcare professional I see it all the time.<
>
> A "healthcare professional?" Are you an MD, or do you
> just sweep out the office after everybody leaves?
I'm a NP and vastly qualified to make the statement.
Either way,
> you know nothing about marijuana that has any basis in science.
> Your opinions, prejudices, and un-educated observations don't
> count for shit.
Oh, another foul mouthed cretin goes to bat for drug abuse.
> WS
Bill Gamelson
"Tater Gumfries" <TaterG...@usa.com> wrote in message
news:ea466201-4182-45c0...@40g2000prx.googlegroups.com...
He has no citations since there aren't any.
Kate_G
For one, take the tests.
http://www.mcmaster.ca/health/hwc/Newsletters/Nov06/marijuana_quiz.htm
Unlike other illegal drugs, marijuana isn’t addictive.
If you answered - True, you are Incorrect.
Marijuana is addictive. It’s true that withdrawal might not be as
severe as with
heroin or other drugs, but research shows that people who regularly
smoke
marijuana have withdrawal symptoms—drug cravings, decreased appetite,
nervousness, irritability, stomach pain, aggression and anxiety,
among others.
http://www.kidsgrowth.com/quiz/gradekgquiz.cfm?id=19
THE FACTS OF MARIJUANA ADDICTION
Despite informative drug education programs, a wealth of supportive
literature, ever-increasing clinical evidence, and research on the
subject, more and more people are experimenting with marijuana. Many
young people, especially those aged between 18 and 25, experiment with
the drug. While some people manage to avoid becoming addicted, a large
portion do become psychologically dependent on the drug, addicted to
its effects, and experience withdrawal when the drug is not taken,
making it even more difficult to quit.
The effects of marijuana addiction can be subtle at first. Short-term
memory can often diminish, and some users experience hallucinations,
paranoia, and a skewed sense of time. Although cannabis (marijuana)
abuse may not be fatal, marijuana abuse has chronic impacts, including
a tendency to reduce motivation, impair memory, and otherwise
desensitize.
Or see it here:
http://tinyurl.com/clsu27
Chronic marijuana abuse, like cigarette use, can create cancer and
also results in respiratory problems such as regular chest colds,
persistent coughs, an increased risk of pneumonia, and chronic
bronchitis. Scientific evidence indicates that long-term, chronic
marijuana use can even adversely affect the immune system and
reproductive systems.
The Surgeon General's Warning on Marijuana
http://www.cdc.gov/mmwr/preview/mmwrhtml/00001143.htm
I might possibly concede the medicinal use of marijuana {Even cocaine
has it's valid medicinal uses} but it would take further study to
totally convince me. However, like any other schedule II drug it would
have to be tightly controlled and continue to be illegal as a
recreational substance.
Andres64
BS. Buy a clue.
Kate_G
martin
> On Feb 2, 10:18 am, Tater Gumfries <TaterGumfr...@usa.com> wrote:
>> On Feb 1, 7:35 pm, Kate_G <kate3...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>>> On Feb 1, 8:05 pm, rfisc...@sonic.net (Ray Fischer) wrote:
>>>> Marijuana doesn't kill people.
>>> It causes people to rob and steal to support their habit.
>>> Just like heroin or any other addictive drug.
>> I call bullshit. Citations are in order, and no, your assertion is not
>> a citation.
>>
>> Tater
>
> For one, take the tests.
<crap cut>
You were asked for cites regarding your statement "It causes people to
rob and steal to support their habit. Just like heroin or any other
addictive drug.", not a load of bullshit.
Where are they?
Matt Silberstein
<kate...@gmail.com> in
<c5a9ce92-e1e9-447b...@n33g2000pri.googlegroups.com>
wrote:
Heroin, yes, murder, no.
--
Matt Silberstein
Do something today about the Darfur Genocide
http://www.beawitness.org
http://www.darfurgenocide.org
http://www.savedarfur.org
"Darfur: A Genocide We can Stop"
Uncle Vic
>> Ironically, I couldn't think of a better time for him to
>> submit his proposal to legalize Marijuana.
>
> That's the stupidest statement I've heard in a while.
> I take it you're a pathetic addict?
That's the stupidest statement I've heard in a while. Are you aware that
Marijuana is non-addictive?
JTEM is right. The revenue from the sales of Marijuana cigarettes could
be a shot in the arm toward economic recovery. It would also take many
thousands of non-violent criminals out of the prison system (where they
don't belong), saving even more money.
The only reason pot is not legal is that are no controls over it, as
there are over much more damaging substances like alcohol and tobacco.
And education on pot is usually trumped by the mindless hate for it
created by Nixon when he created the DEA, and when those stupid
propoganda films were released.
Are you educated?
No, it doesn't seem so. You're being controlled. You believe what "the
system" wants you to believe. Congratulations, robot.
--
Uncle Vic
aa Atheist #2011
Separator of Church and Reason.
Convicted by Earthquack.
Uncle Vic
> On Feb 1, 8:05 pm, rfisc...@sonic.net (Ray Fischer) wrote:
>> Kate_G <kate3...@gmail.com> wrote:
>> >On Feb 1, 6:54 pm, JTEM <jte...@gmail.com> wrote:
>> >> Kate_G <kate3...@gmail.com> wrote:
>> >> > The White House had no comment Saturday on the
>> >> > arrest in Kenya of President Barack Obama's
>> >> > half-brother George for possession of marijuana
>> >> > and resisting arrest.
>>
>> >> Ironically, I couldn't think of a better time for him to
>> >> submit his proposal to legalize Marijuana.
>>
>> >That's the stupidest statement I've heard in a while.
>> >I take it you're a pathetic addict?
>>
>> Marijuana isn't addictive.
>
> BULLSHIT, Ray Pure BULLSHIT!!!
cite please.
>
> As a healthcare professional
Isn't usenet wonderful? You can claim to be anything you want to be. Do
you realize that I have a gold-plated bullshit detector? It's the USB-2
model, too, and it flashes at me every time I open one of your posts.
James Of Tucson
> BULLSHIT, Ray Pure BULLSHIT!!!
>
> As a healthcare professional I see it all the time. Marijuana is a
> psychological addiction
Fair enough. So is posting to USENET posing as a professional.
> > Marijuana doesn't kill people.
>
> It causes people to rob and steal to support their habit.
If it was $5/pound at the grocery story the habit would engender less
crime than tobacco.
Uncle Vic
>> >> > Marijuana doesn't kill people.
>>
>> >> It causes people to rob and steal to support their habit.
>> >> Just like heroin or any other addictive drug.
>>
>> >BWHAHAHAHA! Talk about over the top!!
>>
>> Tomorrow we will rob the neighbors.....zzzzzzzzzzzz
>
> Laugh all you want, but she is right...up to a point.
> It's not addictive; however, it is psychological habit for many
> users. And depending on the person, some people will rob and steal in
> order to support their habit, including smoking pot.
Not to mention those who will break into a liquor store to steal booze.
> I see hundreds of people in the prisons today going to drug counseling
> classes.
They don't belong there. Not for marijuana, anyway.
Bill Gamelson
"James Of Tucson" <james0...@gmail.com> wrote in message
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It's not that cheap in the Netherlands, but it still is sold in coffee
shops. The crime rate in the Netherlands is so low it's almost
non-existent.
Lord Vetinari
news:283ed0a5-7226-406c...@r41g2000prr.googlegroups.com...
On Feb 1, 8:05 pm, rfisc...@sonic.net (Ray Fischer) wrote:
> Kate_G <kate3...@gmail.com> wrote:
> >On Feb 1, 6:54 pm, JTEM <jte...@gmail.com> wrote:
> >> Kate_G <kate3...@gmail.com> wrote:
> >> > The White House had no comment Saturday on the
> >> > arrest in Kenya of President Barack Obama's
> >> > half-brother George for possession of marijuana
> >> > and resisting arrest.
>
> >> Ironically, I couldn't think of a better time for him to
> >> submit his proposal to legalize Marijuana.
>
> >That's the stupidest statement I've heard in a while.
> >I take it you're a pathetic addict?
>
> Marijuana isn't addictive.
> BULLSHIT, Ray Pure BULLSHIT!!!
>
> As a healthcare professional I see it all the time.
As a healthcare professional, you're talking out your ass.
> Marijuana is a psychological addiction as opposed to being a
> physical addiction but an addiction none the less.
Yeah, right...and what sort of "healthcare professional" are you?
: A patient of mine claims he spent 500 dollars a month on it and
: couldn't stop.
Are you trying to say that you're a doctor, now?
: People will rob and steal to get it just like any other addiction.
You're addicted to the word addiction. I'll bet you'll rob and steal, just
so you can use that word.
: Besides it's ILLEGAL and Obama's idiot family shouldn't be breaking
: the established laws should they?
Yes, they should. There is no legitimate reason to make drugs illegal.
> > >> He could
> > >> use his brother's arrest as an example of the money
> > >> & resources we could save, even as we stimulated
> > >> the economy and create new tax revenue streams.
> >
> > >And lets legalize heroin and murder while we're at it.
> >
> > Marijuana doesn't kill people.
>
> It causes people to rob and steal to support their habit.
> Just like heroin or any other addictive drug.
You lie like a rug. What's next, you're going to claim that LSD makes you
jump off of buildings, and play in traffic? Fuck you, criminal.
BDK
cob...@newscene.com says...
And steal all their chips and cookies!!!
Uncle Vic
> On Feb 2, 10:18 am, Tater Gumfries <TaterGumfr...@usa.com> wrote:
>> On Feb 1, 7:35 pm, Kate_G <kate3...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>> > On Feb 1, 8:05 pm, rfisc...@sonic.net (Ray Fischer) wrote:
>> > > Marijuana doesn't kill people.
>>
>> > It causes people to rob and steal to support their habit.
>> > Just like heroin or any other addictive drug.
>>
>> I call bullshit. Citations are in order, and no, your assertion is
>> not a citation.
>>
>> Tater
>
> For one, take the tests.
>
> http://www.mcmaster.ca/health/hwc/Newsletters/Nov06/marijuana_quiz.htm
>
>
> Unlike other illegal drugs, marijuana isn’t addictive.
>
> If you answered - True, you are Incorrect.
Then why is marijuana illegal, while highly addictive substances such as
caffeine, alcohol and nicotine are readily available to the public in any
grocery store? Shouldn't they be illegal too, because they're addictive?
The laws against marijuana are hypocritical in nature, based on public
hysteria created by the propaganda fed to them by the likes of Harry J.
Anslinger, who had the best government job in the world - with the
ability to define both the problem and the solution. Here are some
quotes generally attributed to Anslinger:
"There are 100,000 total marijuana smokers in the US, and most are
Negroes, Hispanics, Filipinos, and entertainers. Their Satanic music,
jazz, and swing, result from marijuana use. This marijuana causes white
women to seek sexual relations with Negroes, entertainers, and any
others."
"...the primary reason to outlaw marijuana is its effect on the
degenerate races."
"Marijuana is an addictive drug which produces in its users insanity,
criminality, and death."
"Reefer makes darkies think they're as good as white men."
"Marihuana leads to pacifism and communist brainwashing"
"You smoke a joint and you're likely to kill your brother."
"Marijuana is the most violence-causing drug in the history of mankind."
Sounds a lot like your robotic attitude, doesn't it? And look at all the
contradiction between pacifism and violence supposedly caused by pot-
smoking...
>
> Marijuana is addictive. It’s true that withdrawal might not be as
> severe as with
> heroin or other drugs, but research shows that people who regularly
> smoke
> marijuana have withdrawal symptoms—drug cravings, decreased appetite,
> nervousness, irritability, stomach pain, aggression and anxiety,
> among others.
I never did.
Kate_G
> Kate_G wrote:
> > On Feb 2, 10:18 am, Tater Gumfries <TaterGumfr...@usa.com> wrote:
> >> On Feb 1, 7:35 pm, Kate_G <kate3...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> >>> On Feb 1, 8:05 pm, rfisc...@sonic.net (Ray Fischer) wrote:
> >>>> Marijuana doesn't kill people.
> >>> It causes people to rob and steal to support their habit.
> >>> Just like heroin or any other addictive drug.
> >> I call bullshit. Citations are in order, and no, your assertion is not
> >> a citation.
>
> >> Tater
>
> > For one, take the tests.
>
> <crap cut>
No it's NOT crap, loser.
>
> You were asked for cites regarding your statement "It causes people to
> rob and steal to support their habit. Just like heroin or any other
> addictive drug.", not a load of bullshit.
The pot has rotted your brain, Mister. One of the main reasons people
steal is
to FEED THEIR ADDICTIONS!!!! DUH !!!! Marijuana IS addictive.
Extended
marijuana use causes hardening in the brain areas that control long-
term and
short-term memory. Looks like it has started setting in for you.
>
> Where are they?
Check your local jail book-in logs for one. Their names are usually
listed in the
paper. Our jails are full of them, teens and adults arrested for
shoplifting, burglary etc.
to get the money to buy pot because they're too stoned and "pot lazy"
to work
and lead respectable lives. I've seen it with my own eyes, I worked at
a rehabilitation
hospital for a while and they were full of marijuana addled children
and adults.
Most were arrested and court ordered to rehab for some type of theft
that was directly
related to their addiction. Not to mention it leads to harder drugs.
Marijuana Statistics
Marijuana is the most used illegal drug in the United States. Nearly
69 million Americans over the age of 12 have tried marijuana at least
once.
Marijuana is California's largest cash crop.
Today's marijuana is 10 to 15 times stronger than it was in the 60's
Reaction time for motor skills, such as driving is reduced by 41%
after smoking 1 joint and is reduced 63% after smoking 2 joints.
There have been over 7,000 published scientific and medical studies
documenting the damage that marijuana poses. Not one study has shown
marijuana to be safe.
Data has shown that people high on marijuana show the same lack of
coordination on standard "drunk driver" tests as do people who have
had to much to drink.
The daily use of 1 to 3 marijuana joints can produce the same lung
damage and potential cancer risk as smoking five times as many
cigarettes.
Marijuana is the second most common drug, after alcohol, present in
the blood stream of non-fatally and fatally injured persons.
Among teens 12 to 17, the average age of first trying marijuana was 14
years old.
A yearly survey of students in grades 8 to 12 shows that 23% of 8th
graders have tried marijuana at least once and by tenth grade, 21% are
"current" users. Among 12th graders, nearly 50% have tried marijuana
at least once, and about 24% were current users.
Marijuana is a complex material containing 421 chemicals, 60 of which
are only found in marijuana
75% of drug-related criminal charges are connected to marijuana.
65% of people arrested for marijuana related crimes are for simple
possession.
Approximately 50,000 Canadians are arrested each year for marijuana
related crimes.
600,000 Canadians have a criminal record for simple possession of
marijuana.
Estimates put the value of the marijuana industry to the British
Columbia Economy at anywhere between $2 billion and $10 billion,
making it one of British Colombia's top three industries.
Kate_G
> "Kate_G" <kate3...@gmail.com> wrote in message
>
> news:283ed0a5-7226-406c...@r41g2000prr.googlegroups.com...
> On Feb 1, 8:05 pm, rfisc...@sonic.net (Ray Fischer) wrote:
>
>
>
Just like the usual run of pro drug cretins you start with the
profanity.
Oh, so typical.
Kate_G
> >> Kate_G <kate3...@gmail.com> wrote:
> >> >On Feb 1, 6:54 pm, JTEM <jte...@gmail.com> wrote:
> >> >> Kate_G <kate3...@gmail.com> wrote:
> >> >> > The White House had no comment Saturday on the
> >> >> > arrest in Kenya of President Barack Obama's
> >> >> > half-brother George for possession of marijuana
> >> >> > and resisting arrest.
>
> >> >> Ironically, I couldn't think of a better time for him to
> >> >> submit his proposal to legalize Marijuana.
>
> >> >That's the stupidest statement I've heard in a while.
> >> >I take it you're a pathetic addict?
>
> >> Marijuana isn't addictive.
>
> > BULLSHIT, Ray Pure BULLSHIT!!!
>
> cite please.
>
>
>
> > As a healthcare professional
>
> Isn't usenet wonderful? You can claim to be anything you want to be. Do
> you realize that I have a gold-plated bullshit detector? It's the USB-2
> model, too, and it flashes at me every time I open one of your posts.
And If I wanted the opinion of a moron, I'd specifically ask for you.
Darrell Stec
Antiquated hardware? You need to upgrade to USB-3 to keep up with all the
latest bullshit to be found on the Internet. But your choice of gold over
platinum was a good one.
--
Later,
Darrell
Darrell Stec
> On Feb 1, 7:35 pm, Kate_G <kate3...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> BULLSHIT, Ray Pure BULLSHIT!!!
>>
>> As a healthcare professional I see it all the time. Marijuana is a
>> psychological addiction
>
> Fair enough. So is posting to USENET posing as a professional.
>
Maybe so, but in this day and age, even a nurses aid is classified as a
health care professional. Those vocational schools have to give them some
sort of bolstering to make up for those extravagant fees they charge for
information that could be learned in a week or two working in a hospital.
>> > Marijuana doesn't kill people.
>>
>> It causes people to rob and steal to support their habit.
>
> If it was $5/pound at the grocery story the habit would engender less
> crime than tobacco.
--
Later,
Darrell
Logician
> Kate_G wrote:
> > <lol> "I don't know why they are charging me" George Obama
>
> > Maybe he should pull that cloud over and walk back to reality.
>
> > President Obama's Half-Brother George Arrested
>
> > January 31, 2009 3:27 PM
>
> > The White House had no comment Saturday on the arrest in Kenya of
> > President Barack Obama's half-brother George for possession of
> > marijuana and resisting arrest.
>
> > more modest than the White House in Huruma, a suburb of Nairobi,
> > Kenya.
>
> > George is thought to be the youngest of at least eight half-siblings
> > the President has.
>
> > Some of President Obama's paternal relatives -- though not George --
> > came to Washington, D.C., for the inaugural, most notably "Grandma
> > Sarah" Obama, the stepmother of Obama's Kenyan-born father Barack
> > Obama Sr., who on the Sunday before the inauguration feasted with the
> > soon-to-be first family, their friends, several top Obama aides and
> > Oprah Winfrey.
>
> > Kenyan Police Chief Joshua Omokulongolo told the Associated Press that
> > George had one joint on him.
>
> > "He is not a drug peddler," Omokulongolo said. "But it's illegal, it's
> > a banned substance."
>
> > George Obama, 26, is scheduled to appear in court Monday.
>
> > CNN quoted George saying, from his jail cell, "They took me from my
> > home. I don't know why they are charging me."
>
> >http://blogs.abcnews.com/politicalpunch/2009/01/president-ob-15.html
>
> His inexperienced brother is going to ruin this country. I can
> see it already.
Will Obama pardon his brother as Bill Clinton pardoned his brother?
Uncle Vic
It's flashing again.
Kate_G
> One fine day in alt.atheism, Kate_G <kate3...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>
>
> - Hide quoted text -
>
Your childish joke doesn't overshadow the fact that marijuana is
addictive
and a menace to society. It will never be legal as a recreational
activity.
martin
> On Feb 2, 11:32 am, martin <usen...@etiqa.co.uk> wrote:
>> Kate_G wrote:
>>> On Feb 2, 10:18 am, Tater Gumfries <TaterGumfr...@usa.com> wrote:
>>>> On Feb 1, 7:35 pm, Kate_G <kate3...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>> On Feb 1, 8:05 pm, rfisc...@sonic.net (Ray Fischer) wrote:
>>>>>> Marijuana doesn't kill people.
>>>>> It causes people to rob and steal to support their habit.
>>>>> Just like heroin or any other addictive drug.
>>>> I call bullshit. Citations are in order, and no, your assertion is not
>>>> a citation.
>>>> Tater
>>> For one, take the tests.
>> <crap cut>
>
> No it's NOT crap, loser.
It is crap in relation to you posting cites showing "It causes people to
rob and steal to support their habit. Just like heroin or any other
addictive drug."
>
>> You were asked for cites regarding your statement "It causes people to
>> rob and steal to support their habit. Just like heroin or any other
>> addictive drug.", not a load of bullshit.
>
> The pot has rotted your brain, Mister. One of the main reasons people
> steal is
> to FEED THEIR ADDICTIONS!!!!
<yet more crap cut> none of which show "It causes people to rob and
steal to support their habit. Just like heroin or any other addictive drug."
Now, do you have any cites to support your assertion?
Bert Byfield
>> BULLSHIT, Ray Pure BULLSHIT!!!
> Actually, he is correct. No evidence has ever been established
> showing any addictive properties of marijuana. Not one shred.
Not evidence. The nannies who fear marijuana just claim it is
addicting without any evidence, and they are believed on faith.
Anyone who has ever smoked marijuana knows it is not addicting, and
that it cures pain, nausea, and stress. The reason it is illegal is
that the aspirin, tranquilizer, and booze manufacturers don't want
the competition. Legal marijuana would be free to everyone, since
they could grow their own.
>>>As a healthcare professional I see it all the time.<
All real healthcare professionals know that marijuana is not
addicting. "I see it all the time" is not evidence. How can you SEE
an addiction, anyway???
>> A "healthcare professional?" Are you an MD, or do you
>> just sweep out the office after everybody leaves? Either way,
>> you know nothing about marijuana that has any basis in science.
>> Your opinions, prejudices, and un-educated observations don't
>> count for shit.
No answer on the MD question. So sweeping the floor seems to be the
answer.
> As if your opinions not supported by any meical or scientific
> evidence should count? What state are you licensed to practice
> medicine in?
"You don't need a weatherman to know which way the wind is blowing."
JTEM
> Even a stopped clock...
....is more interesting than you?
W Spilman
On Feb 2, 9:42 am, "W Spilman" <f...@stink.com> wrote:
> "Kate_G" <kate3...@gmail.com> wrote in message
>
> news:283ed0a5-7226-406c...@r41g2000prr.googlegroups.com...
> > >> Kate_G <kate3...@gmail.com> wrote:
> > >> > The White House had no comment Saturday on the
> > >> > arrest in Kenya of President Barack Obama's
> > >> > half-brother George for possession of marijuana
> > >> > and resisting arrest.
>
> > >> Ironically, I couldn't think of a better time for him to
> > >> submit his proposal to legalize Marijuana.
>
> > >That's the stupidest statement I've heard in a while.
> > >I take it you're a pathetic addict?
>
>
> BULLSHIT, Ray Pure BULLSHIT!!!
>
>
> just sweep out the office after everybody leaves?
I'm a NP and vastly qualified to make the statement.
Either way,
> you know nothing about marijuana that has any basis in science.
> Your opinions, prejudices, and un-educated observations don't
> count for shit.
>Oh, another foul mouthed cretin goes to bat for drug abuse.<
Just because your low-class peers can't use alcohhol, marijuana,
or even food responsibly doesn't mean that decent people can't.
WS
Bert Byfield
>> It causes people to rob and steal to support their habit.
This is silly. Do you work for the federal government?
>> Just like heroin or any other addictive drug.
This is ignorant, or a lie if you actually know better.
>>I call bullshit. Citations are in order, and no, your assertion is
>>not a citation.
> He has no citations since there aren't any.
Not many people are willing to put this addiction nonsense even on a
web page.
Uncle Vic
>> You were asked for cites regarding your statement "It causes people to
>> rob and steal to support their habit. Just like heroin or any other
>> addictive drug.", not a load of bullshit.
>
> The pot has rotted your brain, Mister.
Ad-hom fallacy. Attack the message, not the messenger.
> One of the main reasons people
> steal is to FEED THEIR ADDICTIONS!!!! DUH !!!!
Then marijuana needs to be made available next to other addictive (and
legal) controlled substances, like alcohol and nicotine. If it was,
people would steal to support their habits just as often as they would
steal a 6-pack of beer or a pack of smokes.
> Marijuana IS addictive.
No, it is not. I proved that to myself by smoking it chronically for
eight years, then giving it up for the next ten without ANY withdrawl.
> Extended
> marijuana use causes hardening in the brain areas that control long-
> term and
> short-term memory.
Cigarette smoking causes lung cancer - yet is is sold to anyone over 18
by any grocery store, convenience store, gas station, vending machine,
etc.
Cigarettes can KILL. Pot doesn't.
> Looks like it has started setting in for you.
Ad-hom fallacy. Attack the message, not the messenger.
No One
> "Kate_G" <kate...@gmail.com> wrote in message
> news:64e5f095-7ac0-4a41...@i20g2000prf.googlegroups.com...
> On Feb 2, 9:42 am, "W Spilman" <f...@stink.com> wrote:
>> "Kate_G" <kate3...@gmail.com> wrote in message
>>
>> news:283ed0a5-7226-406c...@r41g2000prr.googlegroups.com...
>> On Feb 1, 8:05 pm, rfisc...@sonic.net (Ray Fischer) wrote:
>>
>> > Kate_G <kate3...@gmail.com> wrote:
>> > >On Feb 1, 6:54 pm, JTEM <jte...@gmail.com> wrote:
>> > >> Kate_G <kate3...@gmail.com> wrote:
>> > >> > The White House had no comment Saturday on the
>> > >> > arrest in Kenya of President Barack Obama's
>> > >> > half-brother George for possession of marijuana
>> > >> > and resisting arrest.
>>
>> > >> Ironically, I couldn't think of a better time for him to
>> > >> submit his proposal to legalize Marijuana.
>>
>> > >That's the stupidest statement I've heard in a while.
>> > >I take it you're a pathetic addict?
>>
>> > Marijuana isn't addictive.
>>
>> BULLSHIT, Ray Pure BULLSHIT!!!
>>
>> >As a healthcare professional I see it all the time.<
>>
>> A "healthcare professional?" Are you an MD, or do you
>> just sweep out the office after everybody leaves?
>
> I'm a NP and vastly qualified to make the statement.
Someone munged the attributions, so I'm not sure who is saying what.
I did find the following that claimed some individuals can develop an
addiction to marijuana, although the vast majority of users do not:
<http://www.uhs.wisc.edu/display_story.jsp?id=736&cat_id=38>. It was
written by the medical director of the NewStart Alcohol/Drug Treatment
Program at Meriter Hospital in Madison, WI, and someone in such a
position should not be assumed to be unbiased.
You'll find lots of people offering help for "marijuana addiction"
according to a google search. Whether this is a real addiction or
a scam is a different question, but touting something as a major
problem is one way of bringing in more business.
According to <http://www.drugtext.org/sub/marmyt1.html>, marijuana
is less addictive than caffeine (the page lists a serious of myths
and what is wrong with them).
James Of Tucson
> Just like the usual run of pro drug cretins you start with the
> profanity.
> Oh, so typical.
Not pro-drug, anti-impersonating a physician.
Show your professional credentials or admit you lied about being a
doctor.
We may still report you to the authorities but at least you can feel
better about yourself.
Liberal...@xemaps.com
If they cared, they wouldn't have elected a coke head to the
Whitehouse -- TWICE.
James Of Tucson
> > A "healthcare professional?" Are you an MD, or do you
> > just sweep out the office after everybody leaves?
>
> I'm a NP and vastly qualified to make the statement.
You've published your clinical research on which that statement is
based, or is it merely your personal opinion that you're presenting as
a professional one?
Gwen
> On Feb 1, 8:05 pm, rfisc...@sonic.net (Ray Fischer) wrote:
>
> > Kate_G <kate3...@gmail.com> wrote:
> > >On Feb 1, 6:54 pm, JTEM <jte...@gmail.com> wrote:
> > >> Kate_G <kate3...@gmail.com> wrote:
> > >> > The White House had no comment Saturday on the
> > >> > arrest in Kenya of President Barack Obama's
> > >> > half-brother George for possession of marijuana
> > >> > and resisting arrest.
>
> > >> Ironically, I couldn't think of a better time for him to
> > >> submit his proposal to legalize Marijuana.
>
> > >That's the stupidest statement I've heard in a while.
> > >I take it you're a pathetic addict?
>
> > Marijuana isn't addictive.
>
> BULLSHIT, Ray Pure BULLSHIT!!!
>
> opposed to being a physical addiction but an addiction none the less.
> and steal to get it just
> family shouldn't be breaking
> the established laws should they?
>
>
>
> > >> use his brother's arrest as an example of the money
> > >> & resources we could save, even as we stimulated
> > >> the economy and create new tax revenue streams.
>
> > >And lets legalize heroin and murder while we're at it.
>
>
> Just like heroin or any other addictive drug.
Hogwash.
Ospr...@hotmail.com
> One fine day in alt.atheism, Ospre...@hotmail.com wrote:
>
> >> >> > Marijuana doesn't kill people.
>
> >> >> It causes people to rob and steal to support their habit.
> >> >> Just like heroin or any other addictive drug.
>
> >> >BWHAHAHAHA! Talk about over the top!!
>
> >> Tomorrow we will rob the neighbors.....zzzzzzzzzzzz
>
> > Laugh all you want, but she is right...up to a point.
> > It's not addictive; however, it is psychological habit for many
> > users. And depending on the person, some people will rob and steal in
> > order to support their habit, including smoking pot.
>
> Not to mention those who will break into a liquor store to steal booze.
>
> > I see hundreds of people in the prisons today going to drug counseling
> > classes.
>
> They don't belong there. Not for marijuana, anyway.
>
I agree with you, up to a point; however, realize that most are not in
there for just simple marijuana use. There are usually other
circumstances, most of the time it's violation of probation.
Gwen
Nobody needs your permission to post.
Gwen
> On Feb 2, 1:51 pm, Uncle Vic <addr...@withheld.com> wrote:
>
>
>
>
>
> > One fine day in alt.atheism, Kate_G <kate3...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> > - Hide quoted text -
>
>
> > It's flashing again.
>
> Your childish joke doesn't overshadow the fact that marijuana is
> addictive
> and a menace to society.
Marijuana is less menacing to society than the retarded rightists we
have running around and declaring expertise about things they don't
anything about.
Jerry Okamura
"Bill Gamelson" <bill_g...@yahoo.com> wrote in message
news:biEhl.6739$UX6...@newsfe14.iad...
>
> "W Spilman" <fa...@stink.com> wrote in message
> news:49870658$0$15767$9a6e...@unlimited.newshosting.com...
>
>>>
>>> Marijuana isn't addictive.
>>
>> BULLSHIT, Ray Pure BULLSHIT!!!
>
>
> any addictive properties of marijuana. Not one shred.
Is that so? I did not know the answer, but a quick search in the web
brought me to this web site.
http://addiction-dirkh.blogspot.com/2007/05/is-marijuana-addictive.html
One more point. When I was young the definition of an addictive drug was
when a person had withdrawal pains, when they stopped using the drug.
Today, it seems to me, the definition of what is addictive has changed to
one of "dependency". So, whether it is addictive or not, depends on what
defintion you use.
Bert Byfield
>>> BULLSHIT, Ray Pure BULLSHIT!!!
>> Actually, he is correct. No evidence has ever been established
>> showing any addictive properties of marijuana. Not one shred.
> Is that so? I did not know the answer, but a quick search in the
> web brought me to this web site.
> http://addiction-dirkh.blogspot.com/2007/05/is-marijuana-addictive.
> html
A weasel-worded "study" that set out to prove that pot was addictive
and accumulated everything that supported their assumption. Even
then, they said it was less "addictive" than beer, and that the
"withdrawal"
symption was a slight nervousness. Given these rules, York Peppermint
Patties etc are addictive.
> One more point. When I was young the definition of an addictive
> drug was when a person had withdrawal pains, when they stopped
> using the drug. Today, it seems to me, the definition of what is
> addictive has changed to one of "dependency". So, whether it is
> addictive or not, depends on what defintion you use.
So now you can be called an "addict" of ANYTHING. Computer games in
general, or Grand Theft Auto in particular. Sunlight. Going to the
beach. Going to movies. Gimme a break.
Kate_G
> One fine day in alt.atheism, Kate_G <kate3...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> >> You were asked for cites regarding your statement "It causes people to
> >> rob and steal to support their habit. Just like heroin or any other
> >> addictive drug.", not a load of bullshit.
>
> > The pot has rotted your brain, Mister.
>
> Ad-hom fallacy. Attack the message, not the messenger.
If you truly think marijuana should be legal and is harmless,
it's nothing but a fact.
>
> > One of the main reasons people
> > steal is to FEED THEIR ADDICTIONS!!!! DUH !!!!
>
> Then marijuana needs to be made available next to other addictive (and
> legal) controlled substances, like alcohol and nicotine.
Both should be illegal.
If it was,
> people would steal to support their habits just as often as they would
> steal a 6-pack of beer or a pack of smokes.
>
> > Marijuana IS addictive.
>
> No, it is not.
Too many doctors, nurses and scientists disagree with you,
starting with the surgeon general and myself.
> I proved that to myself by smoking it chronically for
> eight years, then giving it up for the next ten without ANY withdrawl.
<lol>
What a test, You purposely "smoked it chronically for 8 years"??
<BIG lol> are the rest of your family members fools also?
>
> > Extended
> > marijuana use causes hardening in the brain areas that control long-
> > term and
> > short-term memory.
>
> Cigarette smoking causes lung cancer - yet is is sold to anyone over 18
> by any grocery store, convenience store, gas station, vending machine,
> etc.
{1} Cigarette vending machines BTW, are getting scarce.
{2} Two wrongs don't make a right.
IMO cigarettes AND
alcohol should be illegal.
>
> Cigarettes can KILL. Pot doesn't.
Any smoke in the lungs can kill, moron. Your lungs
weren't made to hold smoke.
>
> > Looks like it has started setting in for you.
>
> Ad-hom fallacy. Attack the message, not the messenger.
I'm sorry if pointing out the probable truth bothers you.
Uncle Vic
> On Feb 2, 3:24 pm, Uncle Vic <addr...@withheld.com> wrote:
>> One fine day in alt.atheism, Kate_G <kate3...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>> >> You were asked for cites regarding your statement "It causes
>> >> people to rob and steal to support their habit. Just like heroin
>> >> or any other addictive drug.", not a load of bullshit.
>>
>> > The pot has rotted your brain, Mister.
>>
>> Ad-hom fallacy. Attack the message, not the messenger.
>
> If you truly think marijuana should be legal and is harmless,
> it's nothing but a fact.
Where are these facts? Show us where the findings are that pot rots your
brain. And while you're at it, please show us where you got your
information that pot causes people to rob and steal to support their
habit.
You have no credibility, just wild claims.
>
>>
>> > One of the main reasons people
>> > steal is to FEED THEIR ADDICTIONS!!!! DUH !!!!
>>
>> Then marijuana needs to be made available next to other addictive
>> (and legal) controlled substances, like alcohol and nicotine.
>
> Both should be illegal.
>
Then it's just your uninformed, biased opinion. Fuck off, liar.
<flush>
Uncle Vic
>> > Marijuana IS addictive.
>>
>> No, it is not.
> Too many doctors, nurses and scientists disagree with you,
> starting with the surgeon general and myself.
http://www.cdc.gov/mmwr/preview/mmwrhtml/00001143.htm
Show us where the Surgeon General says marijuana is addictive, idiot.
Uncle Vic
>> > The pot has rotted your brain, Mister.
Idiot.
http://www.drugtext.org/sub/marmyt1.html
Uncle Vic
> Just like the usual run of pro drug cretins you start with the
> profanity.
> Oh, so typical.
It's all you deserve.
Kate_G
> One fine day in alt.atheism, Kate_G <kate6...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> > On Feb 2, 3:24 pm, Uncle Vic <addr...@withheld.com> wrote:
> >> One fine day in alt.atheism, Kate_G <kate3...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> >> >> You were asked for cites regarding your statement "It causes
> >> >> people to rob and steal to support their habit. Just like heroin
> >> >> or any other addictive drug.", not a load of bullshit.
>
> >> > The pot has rotted your brain, Mister.
>
> >> Ad-hom fallacy. Attack the message, not the messenger.
>
> > If you truly think marijuana should be legal and is harmless,
> > it's nothing but a fact.
>
> Where are these facts? Show us where the findings are that pot rots your
> brain. And while you're at it, please show us where you got your
> information that pot causes people to rob and steal to support their
> habit.
>
> You have no credibility, just wild claims.
>
>
>
> >> > One of the main reasons people
> >> > steal is to FEED THEIR ADDICTIONS!!!! DUH !!!!
>
> >> Then marijuana needs to be made available next to other addictive
> >> (and legal) controlled substances, like alcohol and nicotine.
>
> > Both should be illegal.
>
> Then it's just your uninformed, biased opinion. Fuck off, liar.
Keep smoking, you foul mouthed degenerate. When cancer is
spreading through your body like wildfire, remember that I am:
healthy, wealthy and well adjusted. <smile>
>
> <flush>
You should flush your brain, it's useless anyway.
Jerry Okamura
"Bert Byfield" <bertb...@nospam.not> wrote in message
news:Xns9BA6A9D9D4B6Bbb...@216.196.97.131...
>>>>> Marijuana isn't addictive.
>
>>>> BULLSHIT, Ray Pure BULLSHIT!!!
>
>>> Actually, he is correct. No evidence has ever been established
>>> showing any addictive properties of marijuana. Not one shred.
>
>> Is that so? I did not know the answer, but a quick search in the
>> web brought me to this web site.
>> http://addiction-dirkh.blogspot.com/2007/05/is-marijuana-addictive.
>> html
>
> A weasel-worded "study" that set out to prove that pot was addictive
> and accumulated everything that supported their assumption. Even
> then, they said it was less "addictive" than beer, and that the
> "withdrawal"
> symption was a slight nervousness. Given these rules, York Peppermint
> Patties etc are addictive.
>
Well, yes. That is what most studies do don't they? They look at the data
and arrive at some conclusion based on the data that they looked at. That
does not mean that their conclusions are wrong does it?
>> One more point. When I was young the definition of an addictive
>> drug was when a person had withdrawal pains, when they stopped
>> using the drug. Today, it seems to me, the definition of what is
>> addictive has changed to one of "dependency". So, whether it is
>> addictive or not, depends on what defintion you use.
>
> So now you can be called an "addict" of ANYTHING. Computer games in
> general, or Grand Theft Auto in particular. Sunlight. Going to the
> beach. Going to movies. Gimme a break.
Well, yes, and they do say that some children are "addicted" to playing
computer games don't they? Hell, today they even say that someone is
addicted to fast foods.
Tom S.
wrote:
><lol> "I don't know why they are charging me" George Obama
>
>Maybe he should pull that cloud over and walk back to reality.
>
>
>
>President Obama's Half-Brother George Arrested
>
>January 31, 2009 3:27 PM
>
>The White House had no comment Saturday on the arrest in Kenya of
>President Barack Obama's half-brother George for possession of
>marijuana and resisting arrest.
>
<snip>
>George Obama, 26, is scheduled to appear in court Monday.
>
>CNN quoted George saying, from his jail cell, "They took me from my
>home. I don't know why they are charging me."
>
>
>http://blogs.abcnews.com/politicalpunch/2009/01/president-ob-15.html
The latest from CNN:
"All charges against George Obama, half-brother to U.S. President
Barack Obama, have been dropped after his arrest in a drug raid,
according to police in Kenya..."Being found with people who are in
possession of cannabis is a petty offense," (police spokesman Eric)
Kiraithe said."
http://www.cnn.com/2009/WORLD/africa/02/02/kenya.george.obama/index.html?iref=newssearch
Guess you'll have to find something else to whine about now.
Tom S.
BDK
@y1g2000pra.googlegroups.com>, kate...@gmail.com says...
You might be physically healthy, you may even be wealthy, but your
raving posts show you aren't "well adjusted" at all.
> > <flush>
> You should flush your brain, it's useless anyway.
LOL, I bet he's suicidal from your devastating attack.
--
BDK
BDK Klan leader?
kOOk Magnet!
NJJ CLUB #1
Shillmaster
Kate_G
> In article <f699ab29-5798-47b0-980a-a9e55d5b0059
>
>
>
> - Hide quoted text -
>
<lol> Because I point out a fact?
>
> > > <flush>
> > You should flush your brain, it's useless anyway.
>
> LOL, I bet he's suicidal from your devastating attack.
You're all pitiful.
Darrell Stec
> IMO cigarettes AND
> alcohol should be illegal.
>
The US tried alcohol once. It was called Prohibition and it gave rise to a
whole new criminal organization or rather caused it to grow exponentially.
Not even the enforcers remained teetotalers. I don't imagine you are very
familiar with US history.
--
Later,
Darrell
Kate_G
So you're of the opinion that the politics and methods of almost 80
years ago
would be utilized today? They used to have gunfights on the streets of
Dodge
City in 1879, think it would work in 2009?
lefty_t...@yahoo.ca
> On Feb 1, 6:54 pm, JTEM <jte...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> > Kate_G <kate3...@gmail.com> wrote:
> > > arrest in Kenya of President Barack Obama's
> > > half-brother George for possession of marijuana
> > > and resisting arrest.
>
> > submit his proposal to legalize Marijuana.
>
> That's the stupidest statement I've heard in a while.
> I take it you're a pathetic addict?
Marijuana isn't physically addictive. I've never tried the stuff,
myself, but I'm in favor of legalization. Pot has important medical
uses and is much less harmful to both society and personal health than
booze, which is legal.
So do you favor criminalizing alcohol use? No? Then shut your hole,
hypocrite.
> > He could
> > use his brother's arrest as an example of the money
> > & resources we could save, even as we stimulated
> > the economy and create new tax revenue streams.
>
> And lets legalize heroin and murder while we're at it.
Your equation of murder to drug use reveals you as a nutbar of the
first order.
Since you are a freak, you probably drink heavily to self-medicate.
You probably drive drunk and endanger others, yet have the gall to
look down on harmless pot smokers.
lefty_t...@yahoo.ca
> On Feb 1, 8:05 pm, rfisc...@sonic.net (Ray Fischer) wrote:
>
> > >On Feb 1, 6:54 pm, JTEM <jte...@gmail.com> wrote:
> > >> Kate_G <kate3...@gmail.com> wrote:
> > >> > The White House had no comment Saturday on the
> > >> > arrest in Kenya of President Barack Obama's
> > >> > half-brother George for possession of marijuana
> > >> > and resisting arrest.
>
> > >> Ironically, I couldn't think of a better time for him to
> > >> submit his proposal to legalize Marijuana.
>
> > >That's the stupidest statement I've heard in a while.
> > >I take it you're a pathetic addict?
>
>
> BULLSHIT, Ray Pure BULLSHIT!!!
>
> psychological addiction as
> opposed to being a physical addiction but an addiction none the less.
~Anything~ can be psychologically addictive. Many people are addicted
to sex. Should we outlaw that? Food is psychologically addictive to
millions of people who kill themselves with the health problems caused
by obesity. Let's outlaw food, then.
> A patient of mine claims
> he spent 500 dollars a month on it and couldn't stop. People will rob
> and steal to get it just
> like any other addiction.
That's because it's illegal. If it were legal, prices would go down
and most people wouldn't have to steal to afford it.
Besides, people steal to afford food, booze, lottery tickets, porno,
and any number of things.
Your argument is completely bogus.
>Besides it's ILLEGAL and Obama's idiot
> family shouldn't be breaking
> the established laws should they?
>
>
>
> > >> He could
> > >> use his brother's arrest as an example of the money
> > >> & resources we could save, even as we stimulated
> > >> the economy and create new tax revenue streams.
>
> > >And lets legalize heroin and murder while we're at it.
>
> > Marijuana doesn't kill people.
>
> It causes people to rob and steal to support their habit.
> Just like heroin or any other addictive drug.
Just like food, booze, etc.
Let's outlaw them all.
James Of Tucson
> > A weasel-worded "study" that set out to prove that pot was addictive
> > and accumulated everything that supported their assumption. Even
> > then, they said it was less "addictive" than beer, and that the
> > "withdrawal"
> > symption was a slight nervousness. Given these rules, York Peppermint
> > Patties etc are addictive.
>
> Well, yes. That is what most studies do don't they? They look at the data
> and arrive at some conclusion based on the data that they looked at. That
> does not mean that their conclusions are wrong does it?
No, but it does mean that someone who abuses York Peppermint Patties
should spend decades in prison.
lefty_t...@yahoo.ca
> On Feb 2, 9:05 am, cob...@newscene.com (Kate ) wrote:
>
>
>
> > On Mon, 2 Feb 2009 00:08:40 -0500, BDK <TopSh...@sanity.com> wrote:
> > >In article <283ed0a5-7226-406c-8919-ff4edaea4bd9
> > >@r41g2000prr.googlegroups.com>, kate3...@gmail.com says...
> > >> On Feb 1, 8:05 pm, rfisc...@sonic.net (Ray Fischer) wrote:
> > >> > Kate_G <kate3...@gmail.com> wrote:
> > >> > >On Feb 1, 6:54 pm, JTEM <jte...@gmail.com> wrote:
> > >> > >> Kate_G <kate3...@gmail.com> wrote:
> > >> > >> > The White House had no comment Saturday on the
> > >> > >> > arrest in Kenya of President Barack Obama's
> > >> > >> > half-brother George for possession of marijuana
> > >> > >> > and resisting arrest.
>
> > >> > >> Ironically, I couldn't think of a better time for him to
> > >> > >> submit his proposal to legalize Marijuana.
>
> > >> > >That's the stupidest statement I've heard in a while.
> > >> > >I take it you're a pathetic addict?
>
> > >> > Marijuana isn't addictive.
>
> > >> BULLSHIT, Ray Pure BULLSHIT!!!
>
> > >> As a healthcare professional I see it all the time. Marijuana is a
> > >> psychological addiction as
> > >> opposed to being a physical addiction but an addiction none the less.
> > >> he spent 500 dollars a month on it and couldn't stop. People will rob
> > >> and steal to get it just
> > >> family shouldn't be breaking
> > >> the established laws should they?
>
> > >> > >> He could
> > >> > >> use his brother's arrest as an example of the money
> > >> > >> & resources we could save, even as we stimulated
> > >> > >> the economy and create new tax revenue streams.
>
> > >> > >And lets legalize heroin and murder while we're at it.
>
> > >> > Marijuana doesn't kill people.
>
> > >> It causes people to rob and steal to support their habit.
> > >> Just like heroin or any other addictive drug.
>
>
> > Tomorrow we will rob the neighbors.....zzzzzzzzzzzz
>
> Laugh all you want, but she is right...up to a point.
> It's not addictive; however, it is psychological habit for many
> users. And depending on the person, some people will rob and steal in
> order to support their habit, including smoking pot.
> classes.
Same applies to food, and even more so. Millions of people are
addicted to it and abuse it, to the point that it's slowly killing
them, and people do steal to be able to afford it. Same applies to
booze, as well.
Fatty, junky food and alcohol are much more dangerous and socially
destructive than pot.
lefty_t...@yahoo.ca
You are anything but well adjusted.You screech in all-caps regularly,
fly into a rage when asked to support your claims, posture dishonestly
about your credentials, brag about fantasy wealth (NPs are not
wealthy, so you slipped up there), and wish harm on strangers just
because they disagree with you.
You likely have borderline personality disorder and abuse alcohol
yourself.
lefty_t...@yahoo.ca
> @y1g2000pra.googlegroups.com>, kate6...@gmail.com says...
She admitted to what she does for a living, so we know she's not
wealthy.
What a freak.
lefty_t...@yahoo.ca
Sounds like a flounce, Princess.
Go have a good sulk about how mean everybody is to you and how unfair
it is.
Uncle Vic
>> You should flush your brain, it's useless anyway.
>
> LOL, I bet he's suicidal from your devastating attack.
On the contrary. I Want Her! <Barf...>
Ray Fischer
>On Feb 1, 8:05 pm, rfisc...@sonic.net (Ray Fischer) wrote:
>> Kate_G <kate3...@gmail.com> wrote:
>> >On Feb 1, 6:54 pm, JTEM <jte...@gmail.com> wrote:
>> >> Kate_G <kate3...@gmail.com> wrote:
>> >> > The White House had no comment Saturday on the
>> >> > arrest in Kenya of President Barack Obama's
>> >> > half-brother George for possession of marijuana
>> >> > and resisting arrest.
>>
>> >> Ironically, I couldn't think of a better time for him to
>> >> submit his proposal to legalize Marijuana.
>>
>> >That's the stupidest statement I've heard in a while.
>> >I take it you're a pathetic addict?
>>
>> Marijuana isn't addictive.
>
>BULLSHIT, Ray Pure BULLSHIT!!!
I don't consider the ravings of a rightard to be credible.
> As a healthcare professional I see it all the time.
But you're an irrational rightard who routinely rejects the facts.
>> >> He could
>> >> use his brother's arrest as an example of the money
>> >> & resources we could save, even as we stimulated
>> >> the economy and create new tax revenue streams.
>>
>> >And lets legalize heroin and murder while we're at it.
>>
>> Marijuana doesn't kill people.
>
>It causes people to rob and steal to support their habit.
So does hunger, rightard. Should food be illegal?
--
Ray Fischer
rfis...@sonic.net
Ray Fischer
>On Feb 2, 12:01 pm, Uncle Vic <addr...@withheld.com> wrote:
>> Isn't usenet wonderful? You can claim to be anything you want to be. Do
>
>And If I wanted the opinion of a moron, I'd specifically ask for you.
But why bother when you already have the opinions of a rightard moron?
--
Ray Fischer
rfis...@sonic.net
Ray Fischer
>On Feb 1, 7:05 pm, rfisc...@sonic.net (Ray Fischer) wrote:
>> Kate_G <kate3...@gmail.com> wrote:
>> >On Feb 1, 6:54 pm, JTEM <jte...@gmail.com> wrote:
>> >> Kate_G <kate3...@gmail.com> wrote:
>> >> > The White House had no comment Saturday on the
>> >> > arrest in Kenya of President Barack Obama's
>> >> > half-brother George for possession of marijuana
>> >> > and resisting arrest.
>>
>> >> Ironically, I couldn't think of a better time for him to
>> >> submit his proposal to legalize Marijuana.
>>
>> >That's the stupidest statement I've heard in a while.
>> >I take it you're a pathetic addict?
>>
>> Marijuana isn't addictive.
>>
>> >> use his brother's arrest as an example of the money
>> >> & resources we could save, even as we stimulated
>> >> the economy and create new tax revenue streams.
>>
>> >And lets legalize heroin and murder while we're at it.
>>
>> Marijuana doesn't kill people.
>
Alchohol isn't marijuana, dumbshit.
--
Ray Fischer
rfis...@sonic.net
james g. keegan jr.
http://www.cnn.com/2009/WORLD/africa/02/02/kenya.george.obama/index.html
carrabarra
"Kate_G" <kate...@gmail.com> wrote in message
news:a8ddf7b3-4a39-4b33...@l33g2000pri.googlegroups.com...
yep, you can count on it.
martin
Have you seen her bank account?
> What a freak.
You're a moron. Since when does a persons job mean whether or not they
are wealthy?
Assuming you believe 'her'.
David
typed furiously:
The loss of prohibition caused the law enforcement industry to seek
new scapegoats to keep their funding flowing. This led to the current
situation where we now have a "War On Drugs". Making smoking illegal
would result in exactly the same situation. Currently they are trying
to expand their funding, and succeeding, with the current child
pornography and paedophilia scare tactics.
With regard to tobacco and alcohol the authorities are now trying the
best solution, in my opinion, education and control. By limiting the
places where you are permitted to smoke and drink while using the
power of the media to point out the dangers.
I believe this approach has some success as the number of people who
smoke has dropped dramatically and the number of drink-driving
incidents is also dropping but not quite as dramatically. Since
alcohol greatly affects decision making ability it will take more time
before we have a population who realise this and act accordingly.
The current crop of illegal drugs do have a similar, decision-making
effect which is why it really is vital that control over the
distribution be established. We control the distribution and supply of
both alcohol and tobacco so why can't the same controls be established
for the drug industry. Control the price by subsidising it for some
time and the criminals will go away to find a more profitable source
of income.
There will always be some idiots who do not get the message.
Unfortunately many of them are in government.
--
Regards
David
fundamentalism (n.): fund = give cash to; amentalism = brainlessness
Darrell Stec
> On Feb 2, 8:42 pm, Darrell Stec <dars...@neo.rr.com> wrote:
>> Kate_G wrote:
>> > IMO cigarettes AND
>> > alcohol should be illegal.
>>
>> The US tried alcohol once. It was called Prohibition and it gave rise to
>> a whole new criminal organization or rather caused it to grow
>> exponentially. Not even the enforcers remained teetotalers. I don't
>> imagine you are very familiar with US history.
>
>
> So you're of the opinion that the politics and methods of almost 80
> years ago
> would be utilized today?
What world do you live in? You haven't noticed the crimes committed by high
level drug dealers today? When something is illegal and a good majority of
people want it, then the dealers can make tremendous profits and don't
worry about murdering to protect their nest egg. I'll bet that if you
bothered to look, you would find at least a few such murders by drug lords
today.
You seem to be totally out of touch with reality.
> They used to have gunfights on the streets of
> Dodge
> City in 1879, think it would work in 2009?
--
Later,
Darrell
Kate_G
> On Feb 2, 6:12 pm, Kate_G <kate6...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>
>
>
Not true at all and I'll have to call you a liar on it.
> fly into a rage when asked to support your claims, posture dishonestly
> about your credentials, brag about fantasy wealth (NPs are not
> wealthy,
It fit the metaphor, loser, but nevertheless there's more truth to it
than
not. I don't abuse any substances including alcohol, and my salary is
likely much more than a drug rattled bumpkin can earn.
> so you slipped up there), and wish harm on strangers just
> because they disagree with you.
I don't wish harm on anybody, sir dunce. Individuals that abuse drugs
are idiots and they bring their troubles on themselves. It's just a
matter
of time before they have to pay the piper and suffer the consequences.
I merely have no sympathy for morons who continue to destroy
themselves
after they've been warned countless times by the medical profession
and
the media.
> You likely have borderline personality disorder and abuse alcohol
> yourself.
Now if you just had proof of your accusations instead of a babbling
screed, people just might take you seriously.
martin
> On Feb 2, 9:42 pm, lefty_the_r...@yahoo.ca wrote:
>> fly into a rage when asked to support your claims, posture dishonestly
>> about your credentials, brag about fantasy wealth (NPs are not
>> wealthy,
>
> It fit the metaphor, loser, but nevertheless there's more truth to it
> than
> not. I don't abuse any substances including alcohol, and my salary is
> likely much more than a drug rattled bumpkin can earn.
You're probably right, but my $750 or so allows me to be a drug-soaked
bumpkin and I can post on usenet during working hours.
Now, did you find any cites about all this robbery and murder committed
by people who smoke dope?
Ospr...@hotmail.com
I can tell you from my personal experiences just dealing with many who
are in prison, for marijuana usage
Many of them are:
Unreliable
Lazy
Don't want to work
Yes, many do steal to support their habit.
The murder part, I can' associate marijuana smoking to that. Hell,
murderers come in all shapes and sizes. Look at Thomas Campano, he
was a rich successful lawyer. Now, he sits in prison for the rest of
his life. He isn't the only lawyer I've seen in prison either.
While marijuana is probably small time on the list of drugs, it's a
drug regardless and it's mind altering. Do I think we should legalize
it? I'm mixed on it, but then again..why not? Legalize it and tax the
shit out of it and make money for societies benefit from the dope
heads.
martin
> On Feb 3, 9:04 am, martin <usen...@etiqa.co.uk> wrote:
>> Kate_G wrote:
>>> On Feb 2, 9:42 pm, lefty_the_r...@yahoo.ca wrote:
>>>> fly into a rage when asked to support your claims, posture dishonestly
>>>> about your credentials, brag about fantasy wealth (NPs are not
>>>> wealthy,
>>> It fit the metaphor, loser, but nevertheless there's more truth to it
>>> than
>>> not. I don't abuse any substances including alcohol, and my salary is
>>> likely much more than a drug rattled bumpkin can earn.
>> You're probably right, but my $750 or so allows me to be a drug-soaked
>> bumpkin and I can post on usenet during working hours.
>>
>> Now, did you find any cites about all this robbery and murder committed
>> by people who smoke dope?
>
> I can tell you from my personal experiences just dealing with many who
> are in prison, for marijuana usage
That's because the US is a fucked up puritanic country. In more
enlightened places no-one worries about people who smoke dope. See
Canada and Netherlands for good examples. It's about time the Us grew up
and started to treat adults as adults and not care about what drugs they
wish to take.
Ospr...@hotmail.com
When those drugs effect the lives of others, it's time to care.
Alcohol, effects the lives and destroys the lives of many innocent
people
Drugs, including marijuana effects the lives and destroys the lives of
many innocent people.
So yes, we should care..that's grown up.
martin
You don't lock up people who take a drink of alcohol, yet do lock up
those who take a drag from a spliff, while not locking up those who take
a drag from a ciggie. Sure you care. This is NOT grown up.
Ospr...@hotmail.com
When a person drinks alcohol, and due to their behavior from their
drinking and they harm someone else...they get locked up.
Same thing for drugs, any drug including marijuana.
When their actions hurt others, it's time to stop them.
martin
> When a person drinks alcohol, and due to their behavior from their
> drinking and they harm someone else...they get locked up.
> Same thing for drugs, any drug including marijuana.
> When their actions hurt others, it's time to stop them.
Are you thick? There is no penalty for just drinking alcohol, in the US
it's a possible jail sentence for pulling a drag on a spliff, or even
just having a bit of weed in your possession. don't tell me you're so
thick you can't see the difference.
What hurt, why should they be stopped? It's only the puritanical nature
of the beast. It doesn't happen in Canada much to the disgust of the
Bush presidency.
Kate_G
> > On Feb 2, 9:42 pm, lefty_the_r...@yahoo.ca wrote:
> >> fly into a rage when asked to support your claims, posture dishonestly
> >> about your credentials, brag about fantasy wealth (NPs are not
> >> wealthy,
>
> > It fit the metaphor, loser, but nevertheless there's more truth to it
> > than
> > not. I don't abuse any substances including alcohol, and my salary is
> > likely much more than a drug rattled bumpkin can earn.
>
> You're probably right, but my $750 or so allows me to be a drug-soaked
> bumpkin and I can post on usenet during working hours.
What a legacy!! I'll bet your mother is proud!!
>
> Now, did you find any cites about all this robbery and murder committed
> by people who smoke dope?
It's common knowledge, read a newspaper sometime. I have several
friends that went through it with their children.
One had to ask the child to move in order to stop the stealing to
purchase marijuana.
Summary of relationship between drugs and crime
Drugs/crime relationship
Definition Examples
Drug-defined offenses
Violations of laws prohibiting or regulating the possession, use,
distribution, or manufacture of illegal drugs. Drug possession or
use. Marijuana cultivation. Methamphetamine production. Cocaine,
heroin, or marijuana sales.
Drug-related offenses
Offenses to which a drug's pharmacologic effects contribute; offenses
motivated by the user's need for money to support continued use; and
offenses connected to drug distribution itself. Violent behavior
resulting from drug effects. Stealing to get money to buy drugs.
Violence against rival drug dealers.
Drug-using lifestyle
A lifestyle in which the likelihood and frequency of involvement in
illegal activity are increased because drug users may not participate
in the legitimate economy and are exposed to situations that encourage
crime. A life orientation with an emphasis on short-term goals
supported by illegal activities. Opportunities to offend resulting
from contacts with offenders and illegal markets. Criminal skills
learned from other offenders.
Drug Related Crime:
http://www.whitehousedrugpolicy.gov/publications/factsht/crime/index.html
Here's some other reading for you:
http://www.troopers.state.ny.us/crime_prevention/Drugs/Marijuana/
Addictive Potential
Long-term marijuana abuse can lead to addiction; that is, compulsive
drug seeking and abuse despite its known harmful effects upon social
functioning in the context of family, school, work, and recreational
activities. Long-term marijuana abusers trying to quit report
irritability, sleeplessness, decreased appetite, anxiety, and drug
craving, all of which make it difficult to quit.
Effects on Daily Life
Research clearly demonstrates that marijuana has the potential to
cause problems in daily life or make a person’s existing problems
worse. In one study, heavy marijuana abusers reported that the drug
impaired several important measures of life achievement including
physical and mental health, cognitive abilities, social life, and
career status.11 Several studies associate workers’ marijuana smoking
with increased absences, tardiness, accidents, workers’ compensation
claims, and job turnover.
Patriot Games
<bertb...@nospam.not> wrote:
>The reason it is illegal is
>that the aspirin, tranquilizer, and booze manufacturers don't want
>the competition. Legal marijuana would be free to everyone, since
>they could grow their own.
People could also grow their own tobacco, but almost nobody does.
No, it would be free to almost no one. Its legal to grow your own
tobacco for your own consumption but NOT for sale to anyone except a
manufacturer. The SAME would be true for pot.
No, it would have to be handled exactly the way tobacco is handled
now. Gov't-approved, inspected, taxed, approved packaging (with
warnings), etc.
The cigarette companies have been prepared (even including packaging
and advertising) for this for FOUR decades.
No, its not the aspirin/tranquilizer lobbies that are holding it back.
Yes, it is 90% the alcohol beverage industry lobby that has been
keeping it illegal since the early 70s.
Why? Because they have never been able to reach an agreement in
principle with the cigarette industry on who sells it and where its
sold.
Obviously, the cigarette industry would grow and process pot,
manufacture and distribute packaged pot cigarettes. But then they
would be sold (almost) ANYWHERE. Whereas, in most states, you cannot
buy alcohol just anywhere. Which leaves the alcohol beverage industry
at a HUGE marketing disadvantage.
Most liquor stores are 98% booze, 2% other stuff, with a cigarette
rack behind the counter.
Since we make a HUGE distinction between beer/wine and hard liquor,
and allow the sale of beer/wine even in gas stations, drug stores,
etc., THAT is where we'd expect to see pot cigarettes for sale. Which,
its generally assumed, would put most actual liquor stores flat out of
business.
So, the alcoholic beverage industry wants pot cigarettes to be classed
like hard liquor thus maintaining their monopoly on that distribution
and sale.
Until this impasse is resolved you will NOT see legal pot in America
except for alleged medicinal purposes....
martin
> On Feb 3, 9:04 am, martin <usen...@etiqa.co.uk> wrote:
>> Kate_G wrote:
>>> On Feb 2, 9:42 pm, lefty_the_r...@yahoo.ca wrote:
>>>> fly into a rage when asked to support your claims, posture dishonestly
>>>> about your credentials, brag about fantasy wealth (NPs are not
>>>> wealthy,
>>> It fit the metaphor, loser, but nevertheless there's more truth to it
>>> than
>>> not. I don't abuse any substances including alcohol, and my salary is
>>> likely much more than a drug rattled bumpkin can earn.
>> You're probably right, but my $750 or so allows me to be a drug-soaked
>> bumpkin and I can post on usenet during working hours.
>
> What a legacy!! I'll bet your mother is proud!!
Oh she is. I forgot to mention that was per day.
>> Now, did you find any cites about all this robbery and murder committed
>> by people who smoke dope?
>
> It's common knowledge
<more shit cut>
Still no cites showing all this theft and murder by people dragging on weed.
Kate_G
> Kate_G wrote:
> > On Feb 3, 9:04 am, martin <usen...@etiqa.co.uk> wrote:
> >> Kate_G wrote:
> >>> On Feb 2, 9:42 pm, lefty_the_r...@yahoo.ca wrote:
> >>>> fly into a rage when asked to support your claims, posture dishonestly
> >>>> about your credentials, brag about fantasy wealth (NPs are not
> >>>> wealthy,
> >>> It fit the metaphor, loser, but nevertheless there's more truth to it
> >>> than
> >>> not. I don't abuse any substances including alcohol, and my salary is
> >>> likely much more than a drug rattled bumpkin can earn.
> >> You're probably right, but my $750 or so allows me to be a drug-soaked
> >> bumpkin and I can post on usenet during working hours.
>
> > What a legacy!! I'll bet your mother is proud!!
>
> Oh she is. I forgot to mention that was per day.
>
> >> Now, did you find any cites about all this robbery and murder committed
> >> by people who smoke dope?
>
> > It's common knowledge
>
> <more shit cut>
That's the trouble with you hopheads, anything you don't want to see
you attempt to cover up
> Still no cites showing all this theft and murder by people dragging on weed.
Learn to read, bumpkin..learn to read
On Feb 3, 9:04 am, martin <usen...@etiqa.co.uk> wrote:
> Kate_G wrote:
> > On Feb 2, 9:42 pm, lefty_the_r...@yahoo.ca wrote:
> >> fly into a rage when asked to support your claims, posture dishonestly
> >> about your credentials, brag about fantasy wealth (NPs are not
> >> wealthy,
> > It fit the metaphor, loser, but nevertheless there's more truth to it
> > than
> > not. I don't abuse any substances including alcohol, and my salary is
> > likely much more than a drug rattled bumpkin can earn.
> You're probably right, but my $750 or so allows me to be a drug-soaked
> bumpkin and I can post on usenet during working hours.
What a legacy!! I'll bet your mother is proud!!
> Now, did you find any cites about all this robbery and murder committed
> by people who smoke dope?
It's common knowledge, read a newspaper sometime. I have several
Drug Related Crime:
http://www.whitehousedrugpolicy.gov/publications/factsht/crime/index....
Ray Fischer
>On Feb 3, 9:04 am, martin <usen...@etiqa.co.uk> wrote:
>> Kate_G wrote:
>> > On Feb 2, 9:42 pm, lefty_the_r...@yahoo.ca wrote:
>> >> fly into a rage when asked to support your claims, posture dishonestly
>> >> about your credentials, brag about fantasy wealth (NPs are not
>> >> wealthy,
>>
>> > It fit the metaphor, loser, but nevertheless there's more truth to it
>> > than
>> > not. I don't abuse any substances including alcohol, and my salary is
>> > likely much more than a drug rattled bumpkin can earn.
>>
>> You're probably right, but my $750 or so allows me to be a drug-soaked
>> bumpkin and I can post on usenet during working hours.
>>
>> Now, did you find any cites about all this robbery and murder committed
>> by people who smoke dope?
>
>I can tell you from my personal experiences just dealing with many who
>are in prison, for marijuana usage
>Many of them are:
>Unreliable
>Lazy
>Don't want to work
Hey! That's a lot like you!
In prison
Unreliable
Lazy
Don't want to work
>Yes, many do steal to support their habit.
Wouldn't surprise me at all.
--
Ray Fischer
rfis...@sonic.net
martin
> On Feb 3, 11:50 am, martin <usen...@etiqa.co.uk> wrote:
>> <more shit cut>
>
> That's the trouble with you hopheads, anything you don't want to see
> you attempt to cover up
Look nutter, just post cites showing all this robbery you claim is being
carried to get money to buy weed. It's not hard - except you have none.
>> Still no cites showing all this theft and murder by people dragging on weed.
>
> Learn to read, bumpkin..learn to read
Again, see above.
>> You're probably right, but my $750 or so allows me to be a drug-soaked
>> bumpkin and I can post on usenet during working hours.
>
> What a legacy!! I'll bet your mother is proud!!
If you're not earning over $500/day you must be a failure and your
parents suicidal!
>
>> Now, did you find any cites about all this robbery and murder committed
>> by people who smoke dope?
>
> It's common knowledge
Yet you provide no cites.
, read a newspaper sometime. I have several
> friends that went through it with their children.
> One had to ask the child to move in order to stop the stealing to
> purchase marijuana.
So you say. Now about these cites.
>
> Summary of relationship between drugs and crime
> Drugs/crime relationship
> Definition Examples
>
> Drug-defined offenses
> Violations of laws prohibiting or regulating the possession, use,
> distribution, or manufacture of illegal drugs. Drug possession or
> use. Marijuana cultivation. Methamphetamine production. Cocaine,
> heroin, or marijuana sales.
Nothing at all to do with grass smokers robbing and murdering.
> Drug-related offenses
> Offenses to which a drug's pharmacologic effects contribute;
> offenses
> motivated by the user's need for money to support continued use; and
> offenses connected to drug distribution itself. Violent
> behavior
> resulting from drug effects. Stealing to get money to buy drugs.
> Violence against rival drug dealers.
Nothing to do with pot smokers robbing and murdering
> Drug-using lifestyle
> A lifestyle in which the likelihood and frequency of
> involvement in
> illegal activity are increased because drug users may not participate
> in the legitimate economy and are exposed to situations that encourage
> crime. A life orientation with an emphasis on short-term goals
> supported by illegal activities. Opportunities to offend resulting
> from contacts with offenders and illegal markets. Criminal skills
> learned from other offenders.
Nothing to do with pot smokers robbing and murdering
<rest of shit cut having nothing to do with pot smokers robbing and
murdering>
You have nothing you lying bitch.