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Will Dockery

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Mar 8, 2009, 6:24:15 PM3/8/09
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msifg wrote:
> "Will Dockery" wrote:
> > Karla wrote:
>
> >> Will continues to duck this explanation. He really wants to "get you" and
> >> he
> >> doesn't care if he libels you in the process.
> >
> > Now let's see how you duck something I haven't mentioned, Karla,
> > perhaps because you didn't know... and if you do know, then
> > something's rotten on Usenet.
> >
> > Calling someone a plagiarist without any proof (I provided some but
> > you didn't accept it, and I decided to go with the majority opinion,
> > as you know) is libel, in your opinion, right? So, did you know that
> > one of Dale Houstman's regular quips in his less-than-gladass
> > "critiques" for the past few months is to state that the poem he's
> > reviewing has stolen material, is "inept thievery", et cetera.
> >
> > He's made these charges to several of the poets here in a hit-and-run
> > style, and when called on it to "Post proof or s.t.f.u." he's opted
> > for the latter every time. No explanations, no evidence, and certainly
> > no apologies.
>
> i'm satisfied with exposing the rotten, lying,
> stealing, inept little thief to justice this way.
>
> he should've included alacrity's name in the "remake"
> of "mercury & clocks." that's all... plain a simple.
>
> this doesn't have to be dragged on much longer.
> however, karla won't let it go. she wants the
> world to know that she accepts "accusations of
> thievery" for only a certain select group of her
> chosing.

Let me guess: Karla has responded to my informing her that Dale
Houstman calling people thieves and plagiarists without /any/ evidence
to back it up is somehow "okay"?

I notice that when Dale repeatedly stated that you'd "stolen" parts of
your poetry (this is all archived), and repeated the same shtick on
other poets (me included, of course), there was no Karla to come
galloping "to the rescue", and it's a safe wager she isn't there to
give any fair statements about how "wrong" Dale was when he was
spewing his libel in the form of a smug "critique".

Or maybe she has..?

> sorry, karla. it doesn't work that way. get over
> yourself. the facts are the facts:
> dmh should've indicated that the remake of the
> original poem was directly influenced by the
> initial author. his claim to "instructional"
> input in regards to the remake still should've
> included the name of the initial author out of
> respect, if nothing else.

And Karla would be no doubt the first in line demanding that, if, say
George Dance made that mistake.

> but, you see-
> that's the point of this whole debate. dmh is
> an egomaniac that refuses to accept that his
> usenet peers are peers in the first place;
> to him, we're all inferiors that "don't own

Which is of course bullshit coming from a man who can't even seem to
come up with an original thought to write a poem about.

> a language." haha-
> all because we don't write crappy modernistic
> prose like him; "blank stare" poetry, i call it.
>
> so, i guess the question is, how much longer
> do we continue this obvious roast on dmh.
> i know when i get roasted, i want it over asap.
> by all means, keep dragging it over the flames.
>
> haha

The matter was settled at least by yesterday... the "majority"
declared that taking a poem, gutting the keywords from it, and /
building/ one of your own from that is acceptable.

I've even given it a try with my "Portsmouth Thongs" poem, based on
keywords supplied by Rik Roots.

> > So, in other words, once again you've jumped in with a badgering
> > attack without knowing the facts, or hypocritically not caring.
> >
> > So stop, take a look at what I've just informed you on, and get back
> > to me, okay?

Karla wrote:
>
> Will continues to duck this explanation. He really wants to "get you" and he
> doesn't care if he libels you in the process.

Now let's see how you duck something I haven't mentioned, Karla,
perhaps because you didn't know... and if you do know, then
something's rotten on Usenet.

Calling someone a plagiarist without any proof (I provided some but
you didn't accept it, and I decided to go with the majority opinion,
as you know) is libel, in your opinion, right? So, did you know that
one of Dale Houstman's regular quips in his less-than-gladass
"critiques" for the past few months is to state that the poem he's
reviewing has stolen material, is "inept thievery", et cetera.

He's made these charges to several of the poets here in a hit-and-run
style, and when called on it to "Post proof or s.t.f.u." he's opted
for the latter every time. No explanations, no evidence, and certainly
no apologies.

So, in other words, once again you've jumped in with a badgering
attack without knowing the facts, or hypocritically not caring.

So stop, take a look at what I've just informed you on, and get back
to me, okay?

--
"Shadowville Speedway" and other song-poems:
http://www.myspace.com/willdockery

Karla

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Mar 8, 2009, 6:34:45 PM3/8/09
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On Sun, 8 Mar 2009 15:24:15 -0700 (PDT), Will Dockery <will.d...@gmail.com>
wrote:

You don't have to guess, I've responded already directly to you. I don't have to
talk through msifg.

>Karla has responded to my informing her that Dale
>Houstman calling people thieves and plagiarists without /any/ evidence
>to back it up is somehow "okay"?

Wrong.

>I notice that when Dale repeatedly stated that you'd "stolen" parts of
>your poetry (this is all archived), and repeated the same shtick on
>other poets (me included, of course), there was no Karla to come
>galloping "to the rescue", and it's a safe wager she isn't there to
>give any fair statements about how "wrong" Dale was when he was
>spewing his libel in the form of a smug "critique".
>
>Or maybe she has..?

Your speculation indicates that you want to indulge in "two wrongs make a right"
to back up your lying and libeling of Dale.

>> sorry, karla. it doesn't work that way. get over
>> yourself. the facts are the facts:
>> dmh should've indicated that the remake of the
>> original poem was directly influenced by the
>> initial author. his claim to "instructional"
>> input in regards to the remake still should've
>> included the name of the initial author out of
>> respect, if nothing else.
>
>And Karla would be no doubt the first in line demanding that, if, say
>George Dance made that mistake.
>
>> but, you see-
>> that's the point of this whole debate. dmh is
>> an egomaniac that refuses to accept that his
>> usenet peers are peers in the first place;
>> to him, we're all inferiors that "don't own
>
>Which is of course bullshit coming from a man who can't even seem to
>come up with an original thought to write a poem about.

Dockery is still bitter, still lying, still repeating his fallacious argument.
Apologize.

>> a language." haha-
>> all because we don't write crappy modernistic
>> prose like him; "blank stare" poetry, i call it.
>>
>> so, i guess the question is, how much longer
>> do we continue this obvious roast on dmh.
>> i know when i get roasted, i want it over asap.
>> by all means, keep dragging it over the flames.
>>
>> haha
>
>The matter was settled at least by yesterday... the "majority"
>declared that taking a poem, gutting the keywords from it, and /
>building/ one of your own from that is acceptable.

Are you stupid? The majority agree with the law. Quit making it sound like poor
Dockery got voted down. Poor Dockery won't apologize for not doing the hard
work, for giving false conclusions about "half a poem", for continuing to libel
Dale.

Karla

<snip>

Will Dockery

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Mar 8, 2009, 6:59:41 PM3/8/09
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Karla wrote:

I'm sure I'll get to it eventually, but time is short today since I
have to be at the Sunday night performance:

http://www.facebook.com/album.php?aid=93554&id=620409362&l=68188

They have WiFi there, so maybe I can wade through a few more of your
whines, there, or at least later, for sure.

Yes, "later"... sorry if that isn't good enough for you, Karla.

> >Karla has responded to my informing her that Dale
> >Houstman calling people thieves and plagiarists without /any/ evidence
> >to back it up is somehow "okay"?
>
> Wrong.

Heh... I expected that one.

> >I notice that when Dale repeatedly stated that you'd "stolen" parts of
> >your poetry (this is all archived), and repeated the same shtick on
> >other poets (me included, of course), there was no Karla to come
> >galloping "to the rescue", and it's a safe wager she isn't there to
> >give any fair statements about how "wrong" Dale was when he was
> >spewing his libel in the form of a smug "critique".
> >
> >Or maybe she has..?
>
> Your speculation indicates that you want to indulge in "two wrongs make a right"
> to back up your lying and libeling of Dale.

Wrong.

I provided evidence to back up my observation, the fact that dale took
over half a poem of keywords to generate his poem. That is not a lie,
and you libel me by writing that I libeled him.

And by stating "two wrongs" then you admit that Dale Houstman was
wrong when he /lied/ and repeatedly called other poets thieves with
absolutely /nothing/ to back it up?

Each time he was asked the old Usenet challenge: "Post proof or
s.t.f.u" and each time he shut the fuck up, only to turn around and
repeat the same lie about another poem or poet.

Since that's what went down, you really have no choice but to admit
that Dale was wrong for lying... if you want to have at least the
appearance of fairness.

> >> sorry, karla. it doesn't work that way. get over
> >> yourself. the facts are the facts:
> >> dmh should've indicated that the remake of the
> >> original poem was directly influenced by the
> >> initial author. his claim to "instructional"
> >> input in regards to the remake still should've
> >> included the name of the initial author out of
> >> respect, if nothing else.
> >
> >And Karla would be no doubt the first in line demanding that, if, say
> >George Dance made that mistake.
> >
> >> but, you see-
> >> that's the point of this whole debate. dmh is
> >> an egomaniac that refuses to accept that his
> >> usenet peers are peers in the first place;
> >> to him, we're all inferiors that "don't own
> >
> >Which is of course bullshit coming from a man who can't even seem to
> >come up with an original thought to write a poem about.
>
> Dockery

Yes, I'm the guy who writes all-original poetry and music, thanks for
spelling my name correctly, Karla.

> >> a language." haha-
> >> all because we don't write crappy modernistic
> >> prose like him; "blank stare" poetry, i call it.
> >>
> >> so, i guess the question is, how much longer
> >> do we continue this obvious roast on dmh.
> >> i know when i get roasted, i want it over asap.
> >> by all means, keep dragging it over the flames.
> >>
> >> haha
> >
> >The matter was settled at least by yesterday... the "majority"
> >declared that taking a poem, gutting the keywords from it, and /
> >building/ one of your own from that is acceptable.
>

> The majority agree with the law.

And even /I/ am experimenting with this method, something i looked at
with scorn all my life, thinking that originality was something to /
always/ strive for.

But I also strive to learn something new every day, so thanks, Karla.

Karla

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Mar 8, 2009, 7:22:07 PM3/8/09
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On Sun, 8 Mar 2009 15:59:41 -0700 (PDT), Will Dockery <will.d...@gmail.com>
wrote:

>
>

Of course you have to go, and to tell us so. hahahaha

>Yes, "later"... sorry if that isn't good enough for you, Karla.
>
>> >Karla has responded to my informing her that Dale
>> >Houstman calling people thieves and plagiarists without /any/ evidence
>> >to back it up is somehow "okay"?
>>
>> Wrong.
>
>Heh... I expected that one.

See my response to msifg about his taking "walk a mile in my shoes" from Joe
South. I'm surprised you didn't spot that!

>> >I notice that when Dale repeatedly stated that you'd "stolen" parts of
>> >your poetry (this is all archived), and repeated the same shtick on
>> >other poets (me included, of course), there was no Karla to come
>> >galloping "to the rescue", and it's a safe wager she isn't there to
>> >give any fair statements about how "wrong" Dale was when he was
>> >spewing his libel in the form of a smug "critique".
>> >
>> >Or maybe she has..?
>>
>> Your speculation indicates that you want to indulge in "two wrongs make a right"
>> to back up your lying and libeling of Dale.
>
>Wrong.
>
>I provided evidence to back up my observation, the fact that dale took
>over half a poem of keywords to generate his poem. That is not a lie,
>and you libel me by writing that I libeled him.

I've looked for your evidence. I only see this lie repeated over & over. He
didn't take 50% or more of what you call "keywords". I've done the work myself,
making a list of Alacrity's "keywords" and Dale's "keywords", omitting words
like "at, the, on, but, or" and keeping the rest. You're lying, Dockery. Or, you
are unable to analyze this. Which is it?

You owe Dale an apology.

>And by stating "two wrongs" then you admit that Dale Houstman was
>wrong when he /lied/ and repeatedly called other poets thieves with
>absolutely /nothing/ to back it up?

I stated that YOU USE THE TWO WRONGS ARGUMENT. I did no such thing. And Dale has
correctly called out msifg who used Joe South's original lyrics, "Walk a Mile in
My Shoes".

>Each time he was asked the old Usenet challenge: "Post proof or
>s.t.f.u" and each time he shut the fuck up, only to turn around and
>repeat the same lie about another poem or poet.

You won't listen even when it's laid out for you like fried eggs on a sidewalk.
you continue lying and libeling.

>Since that's what went down, you really have no choice but to admit
>that Dale was wrong for lying... if you want to have at least the
>appearance of fairness.

See above.

<snip>

>> The majority agree with the law.
>
>And even /I/ am experimenting with this method, something i looked at
>with scorn all my life, thinking that originality was something to /
>always/ strive for.

Snivel, whine, won't apologize, Dockery can't admit he's wrong.

>But I also strive to learn something new every day, so thanks, Karla.

I'm unconvinced that you've learned anything but more pettiness and
hard-heartedness.

Karla

Will Dockery

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Karla wrote:
>On Sun, 8 Mar 2009 15:24:15 -0700 (PDT), Will Dockery wrote:
>>msifg wrote:
>>> "Will Dockery" wrote:
>
> >> >> > Now let's see how you duck something I haven't mentioned, Karla,
> >> >> > perhaps because you didn't know... and if you do know, then
> >> >> > something's rotten on Usenet.

Pretty good job of ducking, btw, Karla... in your opinion, Dale and
the other thus can outright lie all they please and you don't really
care.

Sad to see you sink back to that level of several years ago, Karla.

Yes, every Sunday night I need to pop in for at least one set.

> >Yes, "later"... sorry if that isn't good enough for you, Karla.
> >
> >> >Karla has responded to my informing her that Dale
> >> >Houstman calling people thieves and plagiarists without /any/ evidence
> >> >to back it up is somehow "okay"?
> >>
> >> Wrong.
> >
> >Heh... I expected that one.
>
> See my response to msifg about his taking "walk a mile in my shoes" from Joe
> South. I'm surprised you didn't spot that!

I'm pretty familiar with South's original and the Freddy Weller cover,
as both were hits here in the South back then in, what... 1969?

I'll go have a look... did m.s.i.f.g. take half the lyrics and
generate a poem, Houstman-style, in your opinion?

> >> >I notice that when Dale repeatedly stated that you'd "stolen" parts of
> >> >your poetry (this is all archived), and repeated the same shtick on
> >> >other poets (me included, of course), there was no Karla to come
> >> >galloping "to the rescue", and it's a safe wager she isn't there to
> >> >give any fair statements about how "wrong" Dale was when he was
> >> >spewing his libel in the form of a smug "critique".
> >> >
> >> >Or maybe she has..?
> >>
> >> Your speculation indicates that you want to indulge in "two wrongs make a right"
> >> to back up your lying and libeling of Dale.
> >
> >Wrong.
> >
> >I provided evidence to back up my observation, the fact that dale took
> >over half a poem of keywords to generate his poem. That is not a lie,
> >and you libel me by writing that I libeled him.
>
> I've looked for your evidence. I only see this lie repeated over & over. He
> didn't take 50% or more of what you call "keywords". I've done the work myself,
> making a list of Alacrity's "keywords" and Dale's "keywords", omitting words
> like "at, the, on, but, or" and keeping the rest. You're lying, Dockery. Or, you
> are unable to analyze this. Which is it?

Absolutely not, there are at least 5o keywords taken directly from
Alacrity's poem, and if you attempt to deny that, then /you/ are the
confused liar, Karla.

> You owe Dale an apology.

He lied, about m.s.i.f.g. and others, does Dale owe anyone an apology?

"We know" your answer to that, you confused hypocrite.

> >And by stating "two wrongs" then you admit that Dale Houstman was
> >wrong when he /lied/ and repeatedly called other poets thieves with
> >absolutely /nothing/ to back it up?
>
> I stated that YOU USE THE TWO WRONGS ARGUMENT. I did no such thing. And Dale has
> correctly called out msifg who used Joe South's original lyrics, "Walk a Mile in
> My Shoes".

As much as Dale used Alacrity's poem, which was at least /half/ the
poem?

> >Each time he was asked the old Usenet challenge: "Post proof or
> >s.t.f.u" and each time he shut the fuck up, only to turn around and
> >repeat the same lie about another poem or poet.
>
> You won't listen even when it's laid out for you like fried eggs on a sidewalk.
> you continue lying and libeling.

That's a lie, actually.

> >Since that's what went down, you really have no choice but to admit
> >that Dale was wrong for lying... if you want to have at least the
> >appearance of fairness.
>
> See above.

You too.

> <snip>
>
> >> The majority agree with the law.
> >
> >And even /I/ am experimenting with this method, something i looked at
> >with scorn all my life, thinking that originality was something to /
> >always/ strive for.

--

Karla

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On Sun, 8 Mar 2009 17:18:05 -0700 (PDT), Will Dockery <will.d...@gmail.com>
wrote:

>Karla wrote:


>>On Sun, 8 Mar 2009 15:24:15 -0700 (PDT), Will Dockery wrote:
>>>msifg wrote:
>>>> "Will Dockery" wrote:
>>
>> >> >> > Now let's see how you duck something I haven't mentioned, Karla,
>> >> >> > perhaps because you didn't know... and if you do know, then
>> >> >> > something's rotten on Usenet.
>
>Pretty good job of ducking, btw, Karla... in your opinion, Dale and
>the other thus can outright lie all they please and you don't really
>care.

This is a lie. I've responded about msifg immediately. You even responded back.
Nowhere did I duck a discussion about msifg's lyrics. It's in this very post
where you call me a liar.

>Sad to see you sink back to that level of several years ago, Karla.

The only thing I've done that is familiar to you is kick your ass.
Unfortunately, that's the truth. This could have all been forgotten days ago if
you'd simply done the hard work of analyzing Dale's poem by using the elements
for infringement that I provided you with days ago. You refuse. You refuse to
read the law review article. You refuse to layout your "half a poem" argument
but cling to false accusations. It is apparent to anyone reading this in the
future who is sink, sank, sunk. And that is, sadly, you.

If you're familiar with them, why do you need to "have a look"? OMG, it's the
name of the song!

>did m.s.i.f.g. take half the lyrics and
>generate a poem, Houstman-style, in your opinion?

According to msifg, he "borrowed" lines from many songs. See his post.

>> >> >I notice that when Dale repeatedly stated that you'd "stolen" parts of
>> >> >your poetry (this is all archived), and repeated the same shtick on
>> >> >other poets (me included, of course), there was no Karla to come
>> >> >galloping "to the rescue", and it's a safe wager she isn't there to
>> >> >give any fair statements about how "wrong" Dale was when he was
>> >> >spewing his libel in the form of a smug "critique".
>> >> >
>> >> >Or maybe she has..?
>> >>
>> >> Your speculation indicates that you want to indulge in "two wrongs make a right"
>> >> to back up your lying and libeling of Dale.
>> >
>> >Wrong.
>> >
>> >I provided evidence to back up my observation, the fact that dale took
>> >over half a poem of keywords to generate his poem. That is not a lie,
>> >and you libel me by writing that I libeled him.
>>
>> I've looked for your evidence. I only see this lie repeated over & over. He
>> didn't take 50% or more of what you call "keywords". I've done the work myself,
>> making a list of Alacrity's "keywords" and Dale's "keywords", omitting words
>> like "at, the, on, but, or" and keeping the rest. You're lying, Dockery. Or, you
>> are unable to analyze this. Which is it?
>
>Absolutely not, there are at least 5o keywords taken directly from
>Alacrity's poem, and if you attempt to deny that, then /you/ are the
>confused liar, Karla.

I do deny it. I have the numbers and percentages right in front of me. Please
don't tell me that you're counting words like the, and, to, of, from, them,
etc.? Please confirm that you aren't!!!! That is the ONLY way that you could say
that Dale used 50 words of Alacrity's. And that's just so sad and funny.

>> You owe Dale an apology.
>
>He lied, about m.s.i.f.g. and others, does Dale owe anyone an apology?

According to msifg, msifg deliberately "borrowed" lines from other lyrics. See
msifg's post.

>"We know" your answer to that, you confused hypocrite.

See msifg's post, then apologize, Will.

>> >And by stating "two wrongs" then you admit that Dale Houstman was
>> >wrong when he /lied/ and repeatedly called other poets thieves with
>> >absolutely /nothing/ to back it up?
>>
>> I stated that YOU USE THE TWO WRONGS ARGUMENT. I did no such thing. And Dale has
>> correctly called out msifg who used Joe South's original lyrics, "Walk a Mile in
>> My Shoes".
>
>As much as Dale used Alacrity's poem, which was at least /half/ the
>poem?

See above.

>> >Each time he was asked the old Usenet challenge: "Post proof or
>> >s.t.f.u" and each time he shut the fuck up, only to turn around and
>> >repeat the same lie about another poem or poet.
>>
>> You won't listen even when it's laid out for you like fried eggs on a sidewalk.
>> you continue lying and libeling.
>
>That's a lie, actually.

You continue to assert your fallacious "half a poem" nonsense. You don't
apologize. You libel Dale in this very post.

Karla

Orson Wells as CitizenCain

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"Karla" <kar...@NEVERcomcast.net> wrote in message
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or ugly...or dense...or closed-minded...or egotistical...or narcisstic...or
a horrible, horrible "writer"...

=z=

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"Orson Wells as CitizenCain" <noe...@here.invalidd> wrote in message
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>shut the hell up wells...please shut the fuck up...
=+!<0>~+=
me...


Orson Wells as CitizenCain

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"=z=" <+...@nothere.there> wrote in message
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That's a horrible poem, Zidiot.


=z=

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"Orson Wells as CitizenCain" <noe...@here.invalidd> wrote in message
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> i know ersatz...but we all fuck up now and then don't we...especially u
> ?<>oO++=z=...


Will Dockery

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Apr 21, 2009, 9:23:28 PM4/21/09
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Will Dockery: Hitting the stage of old SoHo for the first time in a long
while, with Henry Conley, Geno Woolfolk, and players t-b-a around 10:30pm...
any brave souls who want to join us, love to see you. A glimpse of SoHo's
stage in the video below, for those who can't make it:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=G64jUD1tRRA

"Autograph of Zorro" recorded at SoHo 2005 for the Shadowville-Netherlands
cross cultural exchange project.

Will Dockery- vocals
Jocelyn Lammons- vocals
Henry Conley- guitar
Robert Earl Lowery- bass
Rick Edwards- mandolin

Orson Wells as CitizenCain

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"Will Dockery" <shado...@knology.net> wrote in message
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> Will Dockery: Hitting the stage of old SoHo


in a quite literal sense. Being a drunk will do that to you.


Will Dockery

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"Orson Wells as CitizenCain" wrote:

> "Will Dockery" wrote:
>
> > Will Dockery: Hitting the stage of old SoHo
>
> in a quite literal sense. Being a drunk will do that to you.

You've taken to drinking, since you seem to be speaking from experience,
Dink?

> The Chocolate Watch Band is a legendary garage/psychedelic band that was
> prominently featured in the movie, Riot on Sunset Strip. They were
> managed
> or more appropriately owned by the also legendary Ed Cobb. The song
> featured here is a live version of "She Weaves a Tender Trap", originally
> released in 1967 as a single and was quite a departure from most of their
> records as it was a subdued song with strings & horns and no growling
> vocals
> (sounds like it could have been a Turtles' song). Maybe it's because of
> those qualities that I was never overly fond of the studio version. This
> live version is from 1999 and it includes an spoken intro which is shows
> the
> love/hate relationship between the band and Ed Cobb. If you know the
> story
> of the Chocolate Watch Band, you'll understand it all too clearly. If
> not,
> suffice it to say that Cobb owned the "Chocolate Watch Band" name.
>
> She Weaves a Tender Trap (live):
> <http://www.zshare.net/audio/59064781c54e8980/>

Cool stuff, thanks for posting!

--
New Will Dockery recordings, "Corning Town", "Crawford Road Crawl",
"Rosell", "Little Homeless Clown" & "She Came From Overseas":
http://www.reverbnation.com/willdockery

> > >> > > "In The Hustlin' Bustlin' Moonlight" by Will Dockery:
http://www.facebook.com/album.php?aid=95087&id=620409362&l=d3a038abd7


Will Dockery

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Yes, the choice for us to hit SoHo last Tuesday was a quite last-
minute one, so I'll try to get word out faster next time... like now.
SoHo was and is an important part of the local music scene, and is
often overlooked in the downtown hubbub. There was a time when an open
mic there was not to be missed... that time is coming again in the
Summer of '09, I declare. here's another sample of the SoHo stage back
in the heydey of the mid Double-Oughts:

"Combat Zone (The Ride)":

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9lZ3VAmNTWc

--
Mulling over the news from last week's fortune cookie.
http://www.reverbnation.com/willdockery

Orson Wells as CitizenCain

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"Will Dockery" <will.d...@gmail.com> wrote in message
news:544d082a-0863-48af...@s38g2000prg.googlegroups.com...

> Yes, the choice for us to hit SoHo last Tuesday was a quite last-
> minute one, so I'll try to get word out faster next time...


For all zero people reading and able to not care.


Will Dockery

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"Orson Wells as CitizenCain" wrote:
> "Will Dockery" wrote in message

>
> news:544d082a-0863-48af...@s38g2000prg.googlegroups.com...
>
> > Yes, the choice for us to hit SoHo last Tuesday was a quite last-
> > minute one, so I'll try to get word out faster next time...
>
> For all zero people reading and able to not care.

Yet here you are, as always, showing that you /do/ care.

Here's the current news on "Will Dockery", written to my longtime
songwriting partner Brian Mallard, since you're so interested:

Hope the Florida journey is going good for y'all, and I think your
idea of making the record we're doing a sort of "Best of Will Dockery"
is a good one... I had thought at first that I wanted all new material
on there, and still do, in a way, but as a document of the stuff that
went before, or highlights of the Shadowville All-Stars years, which
has never been collected officially, is a good idea.

Here's what I feel really needs to get on such a record, so far:

1) Corning Town (new)
2) Mirror Twins (Dockery-Fowler)
3) She Sleeps Tight (new)
3) Greybeard Cavalier (Dockery-0x0000-Fowler)
4) Under the Radar (Dockery-Singer)
5) (new untitled by Dockery-Mallard)
6) Ozone Stigmata (Mallard arrangement)
7) Dream Tears (Dockery-Mallard)
8) The Ride/Combat Zone (Dockery-Wright)
9) God's Toybox (Dockery-Beck)
10) Silver Blazing Sun (rewrite)

And a couple more new ones we will create before the record is put
out.

--
"She Sleeps Tight" by Will Dockery & Brian Mallard (vocal draft):
http://www.archive.org/details/SheSleepsTightvocalTake

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Will Dockery

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On May 5, 3:31 pm, Meat Plow <m...@petitmorte.net> wrote:

> On Mon, 4 May 2009 14:15:03 -0700 (PDT), Will Dockery wrote:
> >"Orson Wells as CitizenCain" wrote:
> >> "Will Dockery" wrote:
>
> >> > Yes, the choice for us to hit SoHo last Tuesday was a quite last-
> >> > minute one, so I'll try to get word out faster next time...
>
> >> For all zero people reading and able to not care.
>
> >Yet here you are, as always, showing that you /do/ care.
>
> The fact that someone posts to Usenet shows no such thing. Thousands
> post daily who could care less.

Hey Meat Plow!

Seriously, it's been a long time since I've communicated with you...
how've you been? If you have time, follow the link below and check out
some of my newer works... see what you think, maybe give some
commentary?

--
"Try as much as possible to be wholly alive, with all your might, and
when you laugh, laugh like hell and when you get angry, get good and
angry. Try to be alive. You will be dead soon enough." -William
Saroyan
http://www.myspace.com/willdockery


Orson Wells as CitizenCain

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"Will Dockery" <will.d...@gmail.com> wrote in message
news:5739dbd9-52e1-4254...@v17g2000vbb.googlegroups.com...

> "Orson Wells as CitizenCain" wrote:
>> "Will Dockery" wrote in message
>>
>> news:544d082a-0863-48af...@s38g2000prg.googlegroups.com...
>>
>> > Yes, the choice for us to hit SoHo last Tuesday was a quite last-
>> > minute one, so I'll try to get word out faster next time...
>>
>> For all zero people reading and able to not care.
>
> Yet here you are, as always, showing that you /do/ care.


No, really, I don't care. I don't give a shit. I don't give a rat's ass. I
honestly, truly, 100 percent think you're a bum, a drunken fool, a
narcisstic idiot, someone with no hope of a future and who will most likely
die before he turns 60. Just because I respond doesn't mean I give a damn,
Duckery.


>
> Here's the current news on "Will Dockery", written to my longtime
> songwriting partner Brian Mallard, since you're so interested:


I'm not interested, and it's a crime to use "news" and "Will Dockery" in the
same sentence unless "found dead" is somewhere in there as well.

= snip pointless bleating =


Orson Wells as CitizenCain

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May 5, 2009, 11:42:36 PM5/5/09
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"Will Dockery" <will.d...@gmail.com> wrote in message
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On May 5, 5:27 pm, "msifg" wrote:
> "Will Dockery" wrote:
> Will, i don't know if you're crazy or brave or just
> overly tolerant, but the last time i checked, meat head
> has no love for you.
>
> of course, things could always change.
>
> remember? he claims you suck and he rocks on drums;
> add to that he has nothing to back his side up with?
>
> i remember. that was back when evans was passing out
> "hankies."

Did you know that Karla got involved in the very first Meat Plow
megathread? She lied about hearing the recording MP admitted later
didn't exist, and went so far as to lie that "MP's music is much
better than yours."

She had to stay away for weeks after that blatant lie, and her wild
state of confusion that followed... that would be something worth
looking into the archives to read again! Fun days!


--
Somehow I have trouble believing any of what you wrote above, Will,
especially given the fact that you're a narcisstic compulsive liar.


Will Dockery

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May 23, 2009, 1:38:31 AM5/23/09
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Yes, Yes, the choice for us to hit SoHo last Tuesday was a quite last-minute
one, so I'll try to get word out faster me...like now. SoHo was and is an

important part of the local music scene, and is often overlooked in the
downtown hubbub. There was a time when an open mic there was not to be
missed... that time is coming again in the Summer of '09, I declare. here's
another sample of the SoHo stage back in the heydey of the mid
Double-Oughts: the choice for us to hit SoHo last Tuesday was a quite
last-minute one, so I'll try to get word out faster next time... like now.

SoHo was and is an important part of the local music scene, and is often
overlooked in the downtown hubbub. There was a time when an open mic there
was not to be missed... that time is coming again in the Summer of '09, I
declare. here's another sample of the SoHo stage back in the heydey of the
mid Double-Oughts:

> Will Dockery: Hitting the stage of old SoHo for the first time in a long

--

Orson Wells as CitizenCain

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"Will Dockery" <shado...@knology.net> wrote in message
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> Yes, Yes, the choice for us to hit SoHo last Tuesday was a quite
> last-minute
> one,

They banned you from the club and you had to sneak in wearing wigs and fake
moustaches?


Will Dockery

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On May 23, 1:39 pm, "Orson Wells as CitizenCain"
<noem...@here.invalidd> wrote:
> "Will Dockery" <shadowvi...@knology.net> wrote in message

Yes, that's exactly how it happened! You were there?

--
"She Sleeps Tight", vocals by Will Dockery & Sandy Madaris, guitars by
Brian Mallard. Paintings by George Sulzbach:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9uGY157cpiU

Orson Wells as CitizenCain

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"Will Dockery" <will.d...@gmail.com> wrote in message
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On May 23, 1:39 pm, "Orson Wells as CitizenCain"
<noem...@here.invalidd> wrote:
> "Will Dockery" <shadowvi...@knology.net> wrote in message
>
> news:42b41$4a178bff$4b4c70b9$10...@KNOLOGY.NET...
>
> > Yes, Yes, the choice for us to hit SoHo last Tuesday was a quite
> > last-minute
> > one,
>
> They banned you from the club and you had to sneak in wearing wigs and
> fake
> moustaches?

Yes, that's exactly how it happened!


I'm not surprised.


Will Dockery

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On May 27, 10:23 am, "Orson Wells as CitizenCain"
<noem...@here.invalidd> wrote:
> "Will Dockery" <will.dock...@gmail.com> wrote in message

Why would I expect you to be?

--
"Ashes to Justice", vocals by Will Dockery & Sandy Madaris, guitars by
Brian Mallard. Words and music by Dockery & Mallard:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mzwD5-UI0p4

Orson Wells as CitizenCain

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"Will Dockery" <will.d...@gmail.com> wrote in message
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On May 27, 10:23 am, "Orson Wells as CitizenCain"
<noem...@here.invalidd> wrote:
> "Will Dockery" <will.dock...@gmail.com> wrote in message
>
> news:7d995f2c-a405-4df2...@37g2000yqp.googlegroups.com...
> On May 23, 1:39 pm, "Orson Wells as CitizenCain"
>
> <noem...@here.invalidd> wrote:
> > "Will Dockery" <shadowvi...@knology.net> wrote in message
>
> >news:42b41$4a178bff$4b4c70b9$10...@KNOLOGY.NET...
>
> > > Yes, Yes, the choice for us to hit SoHo last Tuesday was a quite
> > > last-minute
> > > one,
>
> > They banned you from the club and you had to sneak in wearing wigs and
> > fake
> > moustaches?
>
> Yes, that's exactly how it happened!
>
> I'm not surprised.

Why would I expect you to be?


I dunno...nothing you do really surprises me much anymore, Will. You're a
goddamn predictable egotistical narcisst lush.


Will Dockery

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Interesting piece from the Drafts archives...

Irkin Invader Zim

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On Nov 13 2012, 11:49 pm, "Will Dockery" <will.dock...@gmail.com>
wrote:
> Interesting piece from the Drafts archives...
>
> > Will Dockery: Hitting the stage of old SoHo for the first time in a long
> > while, with Henry Conley, Geno Woolfolk, and players t-b-a around
> > 10:30pm... any brave souls who want to join us, love to see you. A glimpse
> > of SoHo's stage in the video below, for those who can't make it:
>
> >http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=G64jUD1tRRA
>
> > "Autograph of Zorro" recorded at SoHo 2005 for the Shadowville-Netherlands
> > cross cultural exchange project.
>
> > Will Dockery- vocals
> > Jocelyn Lammons- vocals
> > Henry Conley- guitar
> > Robert Earl Lowery- bass
> > Rick Edwards- mandolin


Your "vocals" sound like Popeye the Sailor if he decided to turn
homosexual and drink warm beer laced with dead bees the rest of his
life.
Your "lyrics" are about as entertaining as a prostate exam.
Your "talent" lays between the areas of seaweed washed up on the beach
and the question of "does a bear crap in the woods?"
Your overall "personality" is about as likable as Hurricane Sandy and
your ego is so large I am surprised you can intake oxygen into your
lungs for it smothering your person.

You should stop "writing" and "singing" and go into a field that would
be better suited for your "abilities"; goat herder or vivisection
tester, for instance.
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