Re: DGDevin getting pwned
Raja, The Great
Here is what allmusic has to say about redneck aka southern rock...
http://www.allmusic.com/cg/amg.dll?p=amg&sql=19:T577
"Southern rock proper began with the Allman Brothers"
"Lynyrd Skynyrd boasted three lead guitarists. As songwriters and
performers, they helped establish the good ol' boy (or, as some would
put it less kindly, REDNECK) image of southern rock, and helped
define
'70s guitar rock with "Freebird," "
"American blues-rock performers with southern roots like Johnny
Winter, Edgar Winter, ZZ Top, and Elvin Bishop were sometimes lumped
in the southern rock school, although they were really on the edge of
the style both geographically and stylistically."
"Several fairly generic bands rose to a level of considerable
popularity without offering anything particularly valuable, and, at
their worst, perpetuating the worst "REDNECK ROCK" stereotypes of
brawling, good-time southern boys. Included in this category would
be .
38 Special and Molly Hatchet. The Marshall Tucker Band, originators
of
a seemingly endless stream of competently indistinguishable southern
rock albums, epitomized the common denominator of the genre.
Get it Bozo, no mention of CCR, Elvis Presley, Beach Boys while
defining redneck rock. Also they say ZZ Top is on the periphery. You
are by far the worst American ever, you don't even know what redneck
rock means. You have no idea of your own culture. SHAME!
Raja, The Great
http://www.mrbreeze.com.au/page3.htm
This branch of Southern rock's use of Southern imagery, in particular
the Confederate Rebel Flag, and lyrics seemingly extolling redneck
values drew considerable criticism and derision. Some groups such as
Black Oak Arkansas played up these images to the point of obvious
parody. More attention was focused on Lynyrd Skynyrd's "Sweet Home
Alabama" (1974), widely perceived as a redneck anthem and containing
lines pointed at Neil Young's songs "Southern Man" (1970) and
"Alabama" (1972) (which indicted Alabama as a state full of George
Wallace-style segregationists). How Van Zant really meant "Sweet Home
Alabama" is much debated, with many taking it as ironic or satiric and
pointing out that Young and Van Zant respected each other as
musicians.
In any case, this redneck strain was not universal in Southern rock;
the Allman Brothers had multiple African American members
(percussionist Jai Johanny Johanson and bassist Lamar Williams) at a
time when mainstream rock was actively re-segregating
DGDevin
"Raja, The Great" <zepf...@yahoo.com> wrote in message
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> Here is what allmusic has to say about redneck aka southern rock...
I was there, Raja," I don't need to read about it on websites.
BTW, got anything else to say about how Queen sold five times as many
records in the UK as in the U.S.?
No?
Didn't think so.
Raja, The Great
> "Raja, The Great" <zepflo...@yahoo.com> wrote in messagenews:0638df11-d393-4eeb...@o30g2000yqb.googlegroups.com...
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> > Here is what allmusic has to say about redneck aka southern rock...
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> I was there, Raja," I don't need to read about it on websites.
You need to since you appear clueless.
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> BTW, got anything else to say about how Queen sold five times as many
> records in the UK as in the U.S.?
>
> No?
>
> Didn't think so.
Stop diverting the point, you were wrong about what American "southern/
redneck" rock means.
Nil
alt.music.who:
> Stop diverting the point, you were wrong about what American
> "southern/ redneck" rock means.
It means absolutely nothing, you blithering moron. It's a term invented
after the fact by someone who insists everything has be shoehorned into
some category, ANY category, no matter how arbitrary, artificial, and
meaningless. Just like you.
DGDevin
>> > Here is what allmusic has to say about redneck aka southern rock...
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>> I was there, Raja," I don't need to read about it on websites.
> You need to since you appear clueless.
I've forgotten more about it than you'll ever know, fanboi. You should
stick to worshipping Led Zep and those bleep-bloop bands you're so fond of,
you make even more mistakes when you stray outside that territory.
>> BTW, got anything else to say about how Queen sold five times as many
>> records in the UK as in the U.S.?
>
>> No?
>
>> Didn't think so.
> Stop diverting the point, you were wrong about what American "southern/
> redneck" rock means.
Your desperate fabrication and/or goalpost-moving in hopes of supporting
your guesses and misunderstandings changes nothing, "Raja"--you weren't
there, you didn't see it, you didn't hear it, you have no cultural or
personal basis on which to understand it. You're a lost tourist in a
foreign country, and that $1.29 map you got at the service station is only
getting you more lost with every mile.
Forget it "Raja"--cut n' pasting from websites won't save you.
Now, about your claim that Queen sold five times as many records in the UK
as in the U.S., which fanboi website told you that, and why were you stupid
enough to believe it?
Ray
No, the website is wrong actually.
Anyone who has listened to the Allman Brothers Band and compares that
to Lynyrd Skynrd, The Outlaws, Wet Willie or the Marshall Tucker Band
would have to acknowledge that the main thing they have in common is
the way they talk and very little else.
keep jamming stuff into categories like it means something douchbag,
it doesn't change anything, even when you find a website that agrees
with you, or more to the point, that you agree with.
progea
stuth...@comcast.net
> Here is what allmusic has to say about redneck aka southern rock...http://www.allmusic.com/cg/amg.dll?p=amg&sql=19:T577
> "Southern rock proper began with the Allman Brothers"
Here's the rest of it:
"who had already made some recordings in California as the Hourglass;
lead guitarist Duane Allman was a respected session player,
contributing to records by Aretha Franklin, Boz Scaggs, and (after the
Allmans were established) Eric Clapton. The Allman Brothers
established the blueprint for southern rock in their heavy debts to
roots music forms: the blues was foremost, as were boogie, soul, and
hints of country. They weren't at all like either the early rockabilly
performers or the contemporary soul musicians, however, in that the
guitar-dominated thrust of their arrangements were clearly inspired by
the leading hard rock and psychedelic bands of the day, such as Cream
and Jimi Hendrix.
While the Allmans were to some degree responsible for some of southern
rock's lesser attributes — the endless jams, the repetitive boogie
riffs — they executed these with more subtle polish than any of their
descendents, and at their best demonstrated a real facility for
combining muscular rock with improvisation. Anchored by Gregg Allman's
soulful vocals and the twin lead guitars of Duane Allman and Dickey
Betts, the group became stars after the release of the double LP Live
At the Fillmore East, still one of the most popular live rock
recordings of all time. Duane Allman was killed in a motorcycle
accident in late 1971, shortly after the release of Fillmore East, and
bassist Berry Oakley died in eerily similar circumstances a year
later. The band has continued to record to the present day, at times
with great commercial success, but has never approached the artistic
heights of their original lineup."
Which is why the Allman Brothers Band is one of the greatest bands
ever in the history of rock music.
richforman
<stuthalb...@comcast.net> wrote:
> On Mar 22, 8:27 pm, "Raja, The Great" <zepflo...@yahoo.com> wrote:
>
> > Here is what allmusic has to say about redneck aka southern rock...http://www.allmusic.com/cg/amg.dll?p=amg&sql=19:T577
> > "Southern rock proper began with the Allman Brothers"
>
> Here's the rest of it:
>
> "who had already made some recordings in California as the Hourglass;
> lead guitarist Duane Allman was a respected session player,
> contributing to records by Aretha Franklin, Boz Scaggs, and (after the
> Allmans were established) Eric Clapton. The Allman Brothers
> established the blueprint for southern rock in their heavy debts to
> roots music forms: the blues was foremost, as were boogie, soul, and
> hints of country. They weren't at all like either the early rockabilly
> performers or the contemporary soul musicians, however, in that the
> guitar-dominated thrust of their arrangements were clearly inspired by
> the leading hard rock and psychedelic bands of the day, such as Cream
> and Jimi Hendrix.
>
> While the Allmans were to some degree responsible for some of southern
> rock's lesser attributes — the endless jams, the repetitive boogie
> riffs — they executed these with more subtle polish than any of their
> descendents, and at their best demonstrated a real facility for
> combining muscular rock with improvisation.>
Wow I feel a little bit smart - that's basically a much better-written
version of what I said in my own little post about the ABB just a few
minutes ago.
richforman
Nil
wrote in rec.music.beatles:
> While the Allmans were to some degree responsible for some of
> southern rock's lesser attributes - the endless jams, the
> repetitive boogie riffs - they executed these with more subtle
> polish than any of their descendents, and at their best
> demonstrated a real facility for combining muscular rock with
> improvisation.
I can't think of any Allman Brothers song that has a "repetitive boogie
riff".