Did Kubrick help NASA fake moon landings
ne...@my-deja.com
Kubrick helped NASA fake the moon landings. Here is the text from that
post:
Moon Hoax, The
Another Masterpiece By Stanley Kubrick
Author : C. Powers (lost on internet)
Date : 19951004
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Great North Wind (gnw...@io.org) wrote:
Does anyone really believe that human beings have actually set
foot on the moon? I don't know, but I believe that if it
wasn't
for the sci-fi feats of Kubrick in 2001, the American brain
trust
would have offered us only audio of the so-called moon
landing.
It was 2001 that showed NASA how to stage a moon landing.
Excellent observation. In fact, in early 1968, Mr. Kubrick was secretly
approached by NASA officials who presented him with a lucrative offer to
"direct" the first three moon landings.
Initially Kubrick declined, as "2001: A Space Odyssey" was in
post-production at the time, but NASA sweetened the deal by offering to
allow Mr. Kubrick exclusive access to the alien artifacts and autopsy
footage from the Roswell crash site.
NASA further leveraged their position by threatening to publicly reveal
the
heavy involvement of Mr. Kubrick's younger brother, Raul, with the
American
Communist Party. This would have been an intolerable embarrassment to
Mr.
Kubrick, especially since the release of "Dr. Strangelove".
Kubrick finally relented, and for sixteen months he and a special
effects
team -- led by Douglas Trumbull -- worked in a specially-built sound
stage
in Huntsville, Alabama, "creating" the first and second moon landings.
This effort resulted in hundreds of hours of 35mm and video "footage" of
the
Apollo 11 and 12 moon missions.
The bogus Apollo 11 mission was masterfully staged in July of 1969. A
Saturn V rocket with astronauts Armstrong, Aldrin, and Collins was
launched
into low Earth orbit, remaining there while NASA carefully released
Kubrick's studio footage to the press. After the spectacular "lunar
landing" and "return to Earth," the astronauts reentered Earth's
atmosphere
and made a perfect splash down in the Pacific, right on schedule.
Several months later, the Apollo 12 mission was successfully staged in a
similar manner.
Mr. Kubrick refused to direct the Apollo 13 mission, however, because
NASA
officials rejected his screenplay in which the Apollo 13 mission fails.
Kubrick insisted that a dramatic failed mission from which the
astronauts
were safely returned to Earth would ultimately prove to be NASA's
"finest
hour."
NASA maintained that a failed mission would unnecessarily jeopardize the
agency's image, so Kubrick quit the project. Ironically, NASA later
decided
to use the failed mission scenario, for which Randall Cunningham -- a
little
known but highly respected British director -- was recruited to direct.
Kubrick's relentless perfectionism is evident throughout the Apollo
production, from the chilling "1201 alarm" during the final seconds of
the
Eagle's descent to the lunar surface, right down to the lunar dust
covering
the astronaut's EVA suites.
The production itself was not without problems, however. For example,
the
front-projection process -- used so successfully in the "Dawn of Man"
sequences in 2001, proved to be inadequate for reproducing a convincing
lunar landscape. Particularly vexing was the challenge of recreating
the
harsh lighting conditions and the one-sixth G environment on the Moon.
Consequently, the moon walk sequences were actually filmed on location
in
the Sea of Tranquility. Kubrick did not accompany the crew to the lunar
site because of his well-known fear of flying. However, all of the
scenes
were carefully scripted in advance, and Kubrick was able to direct
remotely
from the Johnson Space Center in Houston -- a film making "first."
An interesting side note: Kubrick is well-known for his interest in
theoretical mathematics. During breaks in the filming of the Apollo
missions, Kubrick would often dabble in orbital mechanics, frequently
consulting with Werner von Braun who lived in Huntsville at the time.
After several of these sessions, Kubrick inadvertently derived an
elegant
solution to the "free return trajectory" problem -- the very problem
that
prevented NASA from completing a _real_ moon mission in the first place.
Sadly, this discovery came about far too late into the production for it
be
of any practical use to the engineers at NASA, and was soon forgotten.
To this day, however, Stanley Kubrick's brilliant work on the Apollo
missions remains both unsurpassed and -- regrettably -- uncredited.
See Also: Moon, The
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Neo
>Excellent observation. In fact, in early 1968, Mr. Kubrick was secretly
>approached by NASA officials who presented him with a lucrative offer to
>"direct" the first three moon landings.
If it were so secretive, how would we know about it? <g>
If there is a possibility (a rather remote one at that, granted) that
the lunar landings were faked, the biggest question would be 'why'? If
it had anything to do with the Cold War, why have these fake landings
not been announced by directors such as Stanley Kubrick since then?
Surely fooling not just a single country but an entire planet of a
space journey which never actually took place would be the dream of
all film directors. They'd be desperate to receive both the fame and
fortune which came with it.
Neo
Thomas Coleman
joke sorta. This was back when these mysterious titles such as World
Assembly Of Youth were appearing in Kubrick's filmography (IMDB) and
there was speculation he did UN films and govt film docs. I really
don't know what to think of the post that was included in the question
because, for one thing, it contradicted itself in the middle by saying
there was location filming in the sea of tranquility. Prepare for
flaming because of your subject matter.
Rod Munday
especially like Kubrick's younger brother Raul btw.)
Regards, Rod Munday
ne...@my-deja.com wrote:
>
> I recently stumbled across a post on the Internet which claims that
> Kubrick helped NASA fake the moon landings. Here is the text from that
> post:
>
> Moon Hoax, The
>
> Another Masterpiece By Stanley Kubrick
> Author : C. Powers (lost on internet)
> Date : 19951004
>
> ------------------------------------------------------------------------
>
> Great North Wind (gnw...@io.org) wrote:
>
> Does anyone really believe that human beings have actually set
> foot on the moon? I don't know, but I believe that if it
> wasn't
> for the sci-fi feats of Kubrick in 2001, the American brain
> trust
> would have offered us only audio of the so-called moon
> landing.
> It was 2001 that showed NASA how to stage a moon landing.
>
> Excellent observation. In fact, in early 1968, Mr. Kubrick was secretly
> approached by NASA officials who presented him with a lucrative offer to
> "direct" the first three moon landings.
>
D-O-E, James D-O-E
that, but he also taught Ich's woman how to fake her orgasms.
Sorry Ich buddy, but someone had to tell you.
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SB
footprint on the moon (the first one), you see that in the
impression made in the fine lunar dust by the sole of his boot is
written "Made in Taiwan. Inspected by CRM114"
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thre...@webtv.net
Look very carefully behind the Lunar Module filmed by Armstrong just as
Aldrin is stepping out and then tell me that isn't a helicopter shadow
:-)
We respectfully request that you take us to Eden -- Doctor Sevrin :-)
SB
flagpole as Armstrong walks by.
RGlukov
space journey which never actually took place would be the dream of
all film directors. They'd be desperate to receive both the fame and
fortune which came with it.<<
For the same reason that the makers
of the Alien Autopsy footage have not come forward. Tell me who wrote Hitler's
diaries or the Zionist Manifesto?
boaz...@my-deja.com
> Surely fooling not just a single country but an entire planet of a
> space journey which never actually took place would be the dream of
> all film directors. They'd be desperate to receive both the fame and
> fortune which came with it.
A film with such a premise already exists: "Capricorn One," written
and directed by Peter Hyams, and was released in 1978. It was about an
attempt by the U.S. government to fake a manned mission to Mars.
Elliot Gould was the investigative reporter uncovering the hoax, Hal
Holbrook was the government official trying to keep the lid on it, and
the astronauts were played by James Brolin, Sam Waterson and O.J.
Simpson(!). It's a good idea that may have looked and sounded good on
paper but didn't quite work in the finished product. We get much of
the same preachy "government bureaucrats are evil" dialogue that took
the mystery and awe out of "2010," and by the third act Hyams throws
away what interest may have been generated by the suspense and
audiences' expectations of a "NASA Meets Watergate expose" climax by
resorting to an extended helicopter chase scene in the desert -- not
that there weren't a lot of extended chase scenes earlier in the film,
too. But at least Hyams took us back into the plot afterwards.
Nevertheless, I recommend anyone who hasn't seen it to check it out for
themselves.
Boaz
Jim Linwood
>>>Surely fooling not just a single country but an entire planet of a
>space journey which never actually took place would be the dream of
>all film directors. They'd be desperate to receive both the fame and
>fortune which came with it.<<
Remember what happened to Dustin Hoffman in Wag The Dog?
JL
Aurum
taking place. Some WANT to believe it others, WANT not to. I would like to
think that given the kudos that such a feat has, that no one would dare fake
them. However it doesn't answer why NASA forbade Jodrell Bank from directly
distibuting the live pictures from the moon to the UK media? They somehow
directed them not to do so, allowing only the pictures THEY released via
satellite (or whatever means they had at the time) to be distributed. What
supports the conspiracy theory believers thinking, especially outside of the
USA, is the now well publish fact that the continuance of the Apollo
missions hinged on TV ratings?? How shallow can you get?? Even the first
moon walk was planned to coincide with peak viewing times in the US. Thanks
a bunch! that meant I as a 13 year old at the time, was forbidden by my
parents to wait up until 2am to see them live!!!
At the time of making 2001, the world believed that this piece of SciFi
would by now have been science fact, given the rate of progress. Sadly it
wasn't to be as it wasn't making good TV
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Cheers for now
Paul
Email: pa...@aurum.softnet.co.uk
A member of The HTML Writers Guild
Harry Lime
I remember reading a statistic a while back which showed that
Americans spent about three times as much money on alcohol in the
Sixties than was spent on the entire space program during that period.
Given that, and countless other depressing facts, people then wonder
why I'm pessimistic about our chances of survival as a species.