Message-ID: <3534D504.624A@livingston.net> Date: Wed, 15 Apr 1998 10:40:52 -0500 From: "James C. Allison" Reply-To: allison@livingston.net Organization: AllisonWonderland Concert Lightshow and Creative Focus Graphics X-Mailer: Mozilla 3.0Gold (Win16; I) MIME-Version: 1.0 Newsgroups: alt.consciousness.mysticism,alt.meditation,alt.yoga,talk.religion.newage Subject: Re: Grace Of The Sat Guru - yaaawn... References: <6gdfic$bta$1@nnrp1.dejanews.com> <352AD61C.1688@ix.netcom.com> <352b7040.589400@news.pond.com> <6giokr$92d$1@nnrp1.dejanews.com> <352d9839.4446837@news.pond.com> <353123f8.1283816@news.pond.com> <6grmpe$cv6$4@unlisys.unlisys.net> <3531B8B5.6DC@pacbell.net> <35328547.136F@livingston.net> <3532ce50.851868@news.snet.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Kavindra wrote: > > On Mon, 13 Apr 1998 16:36:07 -0500, "James C. Allison" > wrote: > > > >So a little secret here::: If you don't want the JWs to persist in > >trying to talk to you on Saturday and Sunday Mornings, or any other time > >that they drag their sorry asses around your neighborhood, all you have > >to do is say one simple little thing and they will be on their way in a > >flash! > > > >It is the dreaded "D" word! :) No other word strikes fear and terror > >into the heart of a JW like the dreaded "D" word. It is like holding up > >a cross in front of a vampire! They shrink from the one from whose mouth > >it issues! > > > >Are you ready for it? You must use this exact word! Any other word and > >they know you are bluffing. Use THIS word and they are not allowed to > >talk to you!!! > > > >Just say: "I'm DISFELLOWSHIPPED!!! > > > When the JWs move into an area, they map it off into a grid and assign > people to each section. This is done by the "Territory Elder". Maps of the city, suburbs, and rural areas are cut into pieces and pasted on cards that are kept in a file. On the back of each card is a record form to note when, and who went into that territory. The cards were supposed to go into the back of the file box when they were turned in and to be taken off the front when they were given out. But the higher ups in the congregation and their wives and friends always got the "good" territories (affluent neighborhoods) and the less favored or less well connected JWs got the "Bad" Territories (slums and industrial) > If you engage them at all, they come back again & again. This is called: "A Backcall". Anyone who accepted a piece of literature is supposed to be re-contacted with the aim of starting a weekly bible study, which is done using whichever is the current book of favor from the Watchtower Bible and Tract Society of New York (not to be confused with the Watchtower Bible and Tract Society of Pennsylvania, which is the financial corporation under which this huge and very wealthy organization operates). At the Sunday meeting each week, the good JW turns in his activity record. It shows how many hours one spent in "The Ministry", how many books were sold, how many magazines were place, how many back calls were made and how many bible studies were conducted. A "Pubisher" should put in 10 hours a week. A "Pioneer" should get in 100 hours a month. These people are more involved in the doing of their own trip that what those that they deal with are doing is making it possible for them to play their game of who accomplishes the most physical transactions. There is competition between individuals, families, Book-study groups, congregations, circuit, district and regional areas. All of this is watched closely, though it is of little concern to the less organizationally involved. > I managed to get them to leave me alone once. > > I had just returned from India, where I had been initiated into Yoga, > and felt like I was crackling with shakti all the time. I'd recently > been trained as a canvasser for an environmentalist group, taught the > "rap," taken door to door with a trainer, etc. It was a *very* cold & > snowy March that year, & canvassing was difficult work. > > On my day off, immediately after completing my sadhana, I saw a > Cadillac pull up to the bottom of the driveway of the house I was > living in at the time. Two gentlemen in black suits & overcoats -one > older, one younger- began to make their way to the door. This was not > an easy task. They had to navigate six inches of snow which were > covered with a layer of ice, and the distance from the road to the > door was quite long. > > I guessed who they were, but my heart went out to them, since I was > dealing with similar difficulties in my job. Of course, at this point > in my life, my heart was going out to everyone & I was the mushiest > bliss-puppy you'd ever meet. So I watched these two men slipping & > sliding their way to my door, & waited patiently there for them. > > The younger man started to speak: "Excuse me, sir: I'm sure you're > aware of all the problems in the world today, with drugs and pollution > and crime and wars and all. How would you feel about seeing the > promise of a better world?" This was his rap. The older gentleman > watched him, nodding slightly- the trainer. > "Are you gentlemen with the Watchtower Bible Society?" I asked, > brimming with love for them. I had just gone through this myself with > my job! > > The young man was clearly taken aback. Maybe he expected a snide "Are > you guys Jehovah's Witnesses?" or some such. It threw him off of his > rhythm. After a moment: "Why yes, sir. Now how would you feel about > seeing the promise of a better world?" Trying to pick up the script > again. > > I thought for a long moment, then said: "I don't know. I'm sure that > God is running things pretty well, though." You are not one of those for whom they are looking. They traditionally are looking for religious malcontents. But the problem is that organizing a bunch of malcontents into an obedient group is kind of like organizing the anarchists. The JWs are not looking for any kind of optimistic attitudes. They of necessity need a "soil" on which will grow "the seeds of doom and gloom". Once they get you hooked, then they turn down the screws on what you can and cannot do. The big catch-all behavioural bug-a-boo the "Bringing of Reproach on Jehovah or his Organization on Earth, The Jehovah's Witnesses". Do anything that make them look bad and you are on their shit list... > The two men looked at each other in surprise, and both looked back at > me. Long pause. Then: "Well thank you, sir. Have a good day." And > they proceeded to slowly head back to their car. They never came > back. Go figure. Yow! They were a couple of wimps... There are some very high-powered (zealous) types that would have jumped right into your "happy/smiley shit" big time. How can you say that things are being well run??? Look at the conditions that exist and how can you say with a straight face that everything is being run pretty well? HATRED, GREED, CRIME, CORRUPTION, DISEASE, MORAL UNCLEANNESS, MURDER, TORTURE, RACISM, DISHONESTY, DISLOYALTY, PERSECUTION, INJUSTICE, SLAVERY, DRUGS, ROCK'N'ROLL, DEATH, INDECISION AND TOOTH DECAY!!! And here they have to put major spin on this... for they now have to make it so that all the shit is not coming down BECAUSE of Jehovah... It is BECAUSE of Satan, the Devil. > Of course, I thought later how interesting it would > have been to invite them in and perform a puja to the bronze Siva > statue on the little altar in the living room. They would have apprehended that as an example of idol worship! It was always said that after Armageddon, that cabbages would be grown using the bodies of the idol worshippers as fertilizer!!! > A friend of mine also got them to leave him alone through somewhat > different means. When they first came to his house (the house was > arranged so that you reached the screen door to the kitchen when you > first come up the walk) he engaged them in discussion, not realizing > that this would insure their return.> > They did return- once. Came right up to that screened kitchen door. > Came right up in time to see my friend making love to his wife on the > kitchen table. > They never came back to his house, either. Funny! Well, the JWs are an insideous threat and if there just were more of them the religious scene would become more rabid as it did when the Catholics became powerful (The Inquisition). If the JWs ever get control... can you say Draconian? -- Hang in there! Regards and sincere best wishes AllisonWonderland --- CHECK OUT THE WEBPAGE AT http://www.livingston.net/allison/home.htm Comments welcome.