VampX wrote:
> Marc,
>
> I would like to ask you something and hopefully without sparking up your
> nasty side. Why do you keep changing your ID?
>
> I'll tell you why I ask. In my case I have felt it better to keep your
> posts out of my line of sight so I don't get tempted to have a go at you
> and subesequently starting off a war of diatribe but you keep changing
> things so that you keep reappearing in my list of posts. Why do you do
> that?
i felt the love right there. was very neutral and to the point.
not sure why I care.
>On 2008-06-20 10:44:47 +1000, Liberty NymShifter
><Doin'My+/-thang@~move.com> said:
>
>> What is it about my posts that has you of that opinion? Be specific. Thank you.
>
>Thanks for your reply. Unfortunately I can't give you specific examples
>because they have been removed from my listings and frankly I've not
>got the energy to go sifting through Google Groups.
>
>I just feel that you have far too many conflicting judgemental
>standpoints for me to bare. Not to mention your aggressively defensive
>stance whenever anyone challenges your point. You have come out with
>all guns blazing toward myself on numerous occasions. I don't know what
>it is about me that really gets under your collar but it seems obvious
>to me that I do. So, in order to defuse all that aggrevation I chose to
>not see your posts yet, you keep changing elements of your handle so
>you are constantly visible and I find that very frustrating. I'm all
>for peace between folks and to have to witness your vitriolic tirades
>toward others really doesn't go much toward my ultimate goal.
>
>Of course, that isn't to say that all your posts are like that. Some
>are actually quite genuine and caring but its the flipping between what
>appears as good and bad moods that I find rather distressing.
>
>I just ask that you stick to one handle and that way, people can self
>censor. This will ultimately result in a happier usenet experience for
>all.
Nobody makes you click the mouse and open the message. I have seen
Marc around for a while know and very quickly identify his postings,
name shift or not. If I want to read it I do, if I don't want to read
it I don't. Use your head for something besides keeping your ears
from getting friendly with each other.
--
Ken Wilson
Amer. Dlx. Tele, Gary Moore LP, LP DC Classic w/P90s,
Jeff Beck Strat, Morgan OM Acoustic, Gibson CS-336,
Mesa LSS, Mesa F-30, Victoria 5112
"Goodnight Austin, Texas, wherever you are."
Frank Zappa, Austin, Texas, May 1975
I gave up the kf. Best to just ignore. We can't legislate courtesy or common
sense. The only option is a moderated group and those suck even worse.
Vampx's post was entertaining but futile.
C'mon, Ken. Ease off. You know perfectly well that Marc constantly nym
shifts precisely to antagonize those who prefer not to read his posts.
It wasn't that long ago that I tried to engage him in a sincere dialog
about this behavior (and also about dragging his arguments with the
alt.guitar.amps crew into alt.guitar, which to me is even sillier
because the main axe he has to grind isn't with people in this group).
He responded to my post about this in what appeared to be a sincere
manner, feigning understanding of my point of view, but it was less than
24 hours before he was back to his old tricks.
To me, your post has more than a touch of the "blame the victim"
mentality.
More power to you for asking Vamp, but I doubt he will.
I've given up killfiling certain folk. Instead, I sort by thread. When
I see the nym du jour on more than one post in a thread, I take that as
a sign that the thread has gone beyond its shelf life and I mark the
whole thing as read. It cuts down the noise pretty quickly.
As to the other issues, they're in your head. I have no issues with you
and probably made some comment along the line about your kiddy all-black
Goth bit or perhaps being fat. That's a YP not an MP...see---
_You've_ chosen to be in the mix with the boys young lady and I'm not
honoring your request with accomodation any more than I'd expect you to
do whatever puppet dance I requested of you, as it, -to paraphrase you,
"...really doesn't go much toward my ultimate goal..."
-whatever the heck that's supposed to be :-) Grow up and move on. No
likee? No clickee. If you need a goof in shining tin foil, there's no
shortage in ABusenet. btw, best of luck w/ your new nfp job. Adios.
:-) mvm
> VampX wrote:
>
> On 2008-06-20 10:44:47 +1000, Liberty NymShifter
> <Doin'My+/-thang@~move.com> said:
>
>> What is it about my posts that has you of that opinion? Be specific.
>> Thank you.
>
> Thanks for your reply. Unfortunately I can't give you specific examples
> because they have been removed from my listings and frankly I've not got
> the energy to go sifting through Google Groups.
>
> I just feel that you have far too many conflicting judgemental
> standpoints for me to bare. Not to mention your aggressively defensive
> stance whenever anyone challenges your point. You have come out with all
> guns blazing toward myself on numerous occasions. I don't know what it
> is about me that really gets under your collar but it seems obvious to
> me that I do. So, in order to defuse all that aggrevation I chose to not
> see your posts yet, you keep changing elements of your handle so you are
> constantly visible and I find that very frustrating. I'm all for peace
> between folks and to have to witness your vitriolic tirades toward
> others really doesn't go much toward my ultimate goal.
>
> Of course, that isn't to say that all your posts are like that. Some are
> actually quite genuine and caring but its the flipping between what
> appears as good and bad moods that I find rather distressing.
>
Much like... you. ;-) mvm
Leavitt here is much like a nagging wife-mommy w/ his control issues. At
a minimum (-to those of us who are long-married w/ kids and know
precisely of which I speak-) ...VampX is female.
:-) mvm
*I am sincere in my well-wishes. There are those who wing them w/
sarcasm, as back-handed compliments. Not my trip. When I say something
I mean it, and when I cut loose with the humor (which has been known
to cause many a stiff-ass to projectile hork a hot coffee 'n spinache
turd-cutter brew), I do so with comedic intent. Rock on! mvm
VampX wrote:
> On 2008-06-20 15:29:47 +1000, Liberty NymShifter
> <Doin'My+/-thang@~move.com> said:
>
>> Thank you for your request VampX. The answer is no.
>>
>> As to the other issues, they're in your head. I have no issues with you
>> and probably made some comment along the line about your kiddy
>> all-black Goth bit or perhaps being fat. That's a YP not an MP...see---
>>
>> _You've_ chosen to be in the mix with the boys young lady and I'm not
>> honoring your request with accomodation any more than I'd expect you
>> to do whatever puppet dance I requested of you, as it, -to paraphrase
>> you,
>>
>> "...really doesn't go much toward my ultimate goal..."
>>
>> -whatever the heck that's supposed to be :-) Grow up and move on. No
>> likee? No clickee. If you need a goof in shining tin foil, there's no
>> shortage in ABusenet. btw, best of luck w/ your new nfp job. Adios.
>>
>> :-) mvm
>
> Well,
>
> Can't say I didn't try. I felt it was worth asking to try and appeal to
> your better side but obviously fell on deaf ears. Oh well. Thanks for
> the senitment and just for the record, I don't dance to anyones
> requests. Or at least I try not too.
>
> Ciao to you, amigo.
>
I love that 'ol '69! I slap up new tunes early and often, but
really can't be bothered w/ fresh pics any more than maybe
anually.
The girls are truly nice people and -thanks for the kind compliment...
http://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=500994922
http://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=1043010102
They're working hard in college, community service and jobs. I'm
very proud of them. They got my athleticism (soccer and tennis champs
not boxing or wrestling thank God -but they love touch football and
lacrosse) and love of music, but despite my best efforts, no
follow-through desire to learn how to play an instrument! :-) mvm
VampX wrote:
> On 2008-06-20 16:22:28 +1000, Liberty NymShifter
> <Doin'My+/-thang@~Umove.net> said:
>
>> Best of luck w/ your music as well.* :-) mvm
>>
>> http://tinyurl.com/5v4n6r
>
> Thanks Marc.
>
> PS: I have to say that its about time you refreshed that page with new
> material and I'm totally digging that first car. A '69 Camaro! Lovely.
> Oh and.. umm... are they your daughters? Hmmm
> :)
>
> Pretty.
>
Like I said.. If you didn't cross-post you'd almost be tolerable. Change
your name all you want but why do you insist on dragging those AGA kooks in
here?
> Marc,
>
> I would like to ask you something and hopefully without sparking up
> your nasty side. Why do you keep changing your ID?
>
> I'll tell you why I ask. In my case I have felt it better to keep your
> posts out of my line of sight so I don't get tempted to have a go at
> you and subesequently starting off a war of diatribe but you keep
> changing things so that you keep reappearing in my list of posts. Why
> do you do that?
Because the one thing he fears most is silence.
Even people telling him he's a jerkoff is better
than being ignored, as far as he's concerned.
He's been pulling the same routine on AGA for
years.
He's a genuine headcase, and proof of that
has been posted, if you'd care to google for it.
Lord Valve
Organist
> I just ask that you stick to one handle and that way, people can self
> censor.
ROFLMBFAO!
The ambient temperature in the Hellfile will reach zero degrees Kelvin before that
happens.
Hey, wait a minute...
Lord Valve
Ex-Hellfile Dweller
> ;-) from 'W'*iLL*_i_AM (Radio)
>
> The one thing I fear most is silence.
>
> Even people telling me I'm a jerkoff is better
> than being ignored, as far as I'm concerned.
> I've been pulling the same organ on AGA for
> years.
>
> I'm a genuine headcase, and proof of that
> has been posted, if you'd care to google for it.
>
> 'W'*iLL*_i_AM (Radio)
> Organ Cook
My God-- Have you *no* sense of decency you open sewer with toes?
;-) mvm
Liberty NymShifter wrote:
> ;-) from 'W'*iLL*_i_AM (Radio)
What LV really wrote:
"Because the one thing he fears most is silence.
Even people telling him he's a jerkoff is better
than being ignored, as far as he's concerned.
He's been pulling the same routine on AGA for
years.
He's a genuine headcase, and proof of that
has been posted, if you'd care to google for it.
Lord Valve"
What Marc changed it into"
Guess LV must have had it right. I don't agree with LVs politics, and I've
been around long enough to know what's up, but Marc ... you can't let even
one of his posts go by without responding. The one obsessed is you.
Rewrite away .........
Don
Your royal munificence is a true blessing ;-) mvm
Check this one out too-- really funny in a sick-but-true sort of way;
Man, I ran into this one SO many times...the B.S. factor ran completely
amok in our system. No end in sight...although a recession may flush
some of the crap out...one can hope1 :-) mvm
Ain't it a bitch. Here you are acting out the epitome of true freedom
and the rest of the slaves to the alleged leader of the 'free' world
just do not get it.
And they always rise to the bait. And I am supposed to listen them
advertise their own stupidity and/or lack of self-control while they
constantly whine about it?
>
>It wasn't that long ago that I tried to engage him in a sincere dialog
>about this behavior (and also about dragging his arguments with the
>alt.guitar.amps crew into alt.guitar, which to me is even sillier
>because the main axe he has to grind isn't with people in this group).
>He responded to my post about this in what appeared to be a sincere
>manner, feigning understanding of my point of view, but it was less than
>24 hours before he was back to his old tricks.
>
There are no victims here except victims by choice. I'm sorry. But
that's the best I can offer.
I can imagine you have dwelt in many a hellfile, as have I. You are
right, all they are is a waste of disk space until the next candidate
shows up to add to its girth.
I assume you're directing this at nymshifter. If not??
>> C'mon, Ken. Ease off. You know perfectly well that Marc constantly
>> nym shifts precisely to antagonize those who prefer not to read his
>> posts.
>
> And they always rise to the bait. And I am supposed to listen them
> advertise their own stupidity and/or lack of self-control while they
> constantly whine about it?
>
>>
>> It wasn't that long ago that I tried to engage him in a sincere
>> dialog about this behavior (and also about dragging his arguments
>> with the alt.guitar.amps crew into alt.guitar, which to me is even
>> sillier because the main axe he has to grind isn't with people in
>> this group). He responded to my post about this in what appeared to
>> be a sincere manner, feigning understanding of my point of view, but
>> it was less than 24 hours before he was back to his old tricks.
>>
> There are no victims here except victims by choice. I'm sorry. But
> that's the best I can offer.
There's a point where I draw the line. Let me give a real-life analogy.
Suppose some right-wing nut job shows up at my door and launches into
his routine. I politely tell him thanks, but no thanks. Fine, he made
his effort, I responded, it should be over, right?
Now suppose the same guy sends a different person to my door each day,
trying to trick me into opening it so that I can constantly be exposed
to the same harangue. I don't know until they start launching into the
spiel that it's the same guy behind it. Also, being a pretty friendly
guy, I have lots of people coming to my door, so stopping answering the
door isn't really an option, and it runs contrary to my nature.
Are you going to defend that guy's actions under the guise of freedom of
speech? It's harassment, pure and simple.
This isn't about ideology; for the most part, I agree with your views
(and a great deal of Marc's, for that matter).
But Marc's MO is basically the same as the above guy's. He shifts nyms
and disguises himself precisely so he can intrude on people's space that
have already seen his spiels and have decided that they've had enough.
"Free". ALL freedom is fought for. :-) mvm
:-) mvm
PS
> Meat Plow wrote:
>
>...an attention whore. Good or bad, doesn't matter.
Leavitt, hold your breath and turn blue. That's an order!
:-) mvm
http://www.netaddiction.com/resources/internet_addiction_test.htm
:-)
You are correct. I was.
>Rick N. Backer <ken.w...@NsOhSaPw.cAaM> wrote:
The analogy doesn't follow. Your yard is private, this is a public,
un-moderated forum.
> The analogy doesn't follow. Your yard is private, this is a public,
> un-moderated forum.
Legally, you're right, of course. Ethically, not so much.
Here's 2 more for you ythread! ;-) mvm
‘Internet Delusions’: A Case Series and Theoretical Integration
Background: Delusions involving the internet have been reported as
examples of ... delusions expressed in a schizophrenia patient with
'Internet psychosis'. ...
content.karger.com/produktedb/produkte.asp?typ=fulltext&file=PSP2005038003144
- Similar pages - Note this
Re: Internet Psychosis: U2 Can CyberStalk just like THIS! From: Stalked
by Dimwitted <Suffer@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>; Date: Mon, 13 Mar 2006 06:40:56
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you can message them too!
wonder if they'd be pleased to look in on what a tosser dad makes of himself
on usenet.
>
>
> VampX wrote:
>> On 2008-06-20 16:22:28 +1000, Liberty NymShifter
>> <Doin'My+/-thang@~Umove.net> said:
>>
>>> Best of luck w/ your music as well.* :-) mvm
>>>
>>> http://tinyurl.com/5v4n6r
>>
>> Thanks Marc.
>>
>> PS: I have to say that its about time you refreshed that page with new
>> material and I'm totally digging that first car. A '69 Camaro! Lovely. Oh
>> and.. umm... are they your daughters? Hmmm
>> :)
>>
>> Pretty.
>>
Begrinner, one man's sense is another's insane. Think of it as a
Summer / Winter, Australia, the rest of the planet type of thing.
1. Have you ever been described as "wiggedy wack?"
Yes No Not Sure
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2. When you think about Rip Taylor do you touch yourself?
Yes No Not Sure
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3. Could you eat about a thousand Skittles right now?
Yes No Not Sure
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4. Have you ever wished you could shoot BBs out of your eyes?
Yes No Not Sure
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5. How about Monkeys?
Yes No Not Sure
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6. Do you think that Anthrax should change their name to "Basket of
Puppies?"
Yes No Not Sure
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7. Would you change YOUR name to "Basket of Puppies?"
Yes No Not Sure
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8. How about "Basket of Bubonic Plague?"
Yes No Not Sure
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9. Would you like to go rock climbing with Aleister Crowley?
Yes No Not Sure
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10. Have you ever squeezed your own neck until you passed out?
Yes No Not Sure
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11. How about your boner?
Yes No Not Sure
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12. Do you find the word "boner" as funny as I do?
Yes No Not Sure
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13. Are your fingers, like, really wierd?
Yes No Not Sure
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14. Have you ever had intimate relations with a melon?
Yes No Not Sure
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15. If so, was it "Like a virgin?"
Yes No Not Sure
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16. Is devil worship better than artificial sweetener?
Yes No Not Sure
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17. Do you smell of the exotic orient?
Yes No Not Sure
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18. Do you remember that episode of "That's Incredible" where the swami
was in the glass box underwater for an hour?
Yes No Not Sure
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19. Isn't the word "swami" totally bitchin'?
Yes No Not Sure
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20. When people ask "Where have all the flowers gone?" Do you answer "Up
my ass?"
Yes No Not Sure
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21. Do you think you're ready for this jelly?
Yes No Not Sure
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22. Are all my base belong to you?
Yes No Not Sure
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23. Have you ever noticed how much Peter Murphy sounds like Neil Diamond?
Yes No Not Sure
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24. Are you ready to rock?
Yes No Not Sure
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One final question, besides your Humor interest, which single phrase
best describes you today?
I like getting special prices at Wal-Mart.
I love chocolate.
I'm a gal who wants to wear better fitting and better looking fashions.
I want a new computer.
I want some new DVDs.
I love ice cream.
I take a lot of photographs.
I'm none of the above.
Begrinner, why, you're a one whack mind..."tosser"? Have you now the
temerity to insinuate that I'm ABusenetting to Address Lord Palmer?
Square Dancing with Satan? Delivering the Ejaculation Proclamation? Or-
Dating Palmela Handerson
Bopping the bologna
Choking the chicken
Donald, firing an apprentice
Firing off some knuckle-children
Five finger shuffle
Flog the dolphin
Going to the palm prom
Hand to gland combat
Having a knee trembler
Hitchhiking To The Sky
Holding my sausage hostage
Jerkin the gerkin
Lubing the tubing
Making it snow
Making stomach pancakes
Painting the ceiling
Playing tug of war with the cyclops
Pole dancing
Pumping the keg
Revving the engine
Roughing up the suspect
Ruining my eyesight
Shaking the steak
Slapping the salami
Spanking the monkey
Stroking the one-eyed snake
Taking care of my business
Tapping the wookie head
Thinking of your mom
Turning Japanese
Whippin off a batch
Wrestling the one eyed monster
Or-- being the geek you plainly are, perhaps you're
Polishing the Wii-mote
Resizing the hard drive
Brandishing Narsil
Setting the phaser to "spray"
Shooting the evil dead with my boomstick
Downgrading the firmware on my handheld
Making the wiki sticky
Synching the handheld
Lengthening the slide rule
Milking Super Mario
Offering gifts to Amidala
?!?
Shame on you Sir!
:-) mvm
VampX wrote:
> On 2008-06-22 00:50:08 +1000, Liberty NymShifter
> <My+/-thang@~I+move.org> said:
>
>> One final question, besides your Humor interest, which single phrase
>> best describes you today?
>>
>> I'm a gal who wants to wear better fitting and better looking fashions.
>
> Guilty as charged?
> :)
>
>
Are you Martin the Hall Monitor? You're getting your ass kicked after
school. ;-)
VampX wrote:
> On 2008-06-22 11:35:41 +1000, Liberty NymShifter
> <My+/-thang@~I+move.org> said:
>
>> *You* pass bad gas, little else. ;-)
>
> There's good gas?