Will Eddie Van Halen make another Hobo appearance at NAMM?
Joe Namm
that as he past. It took me about 5 seconds to say aloud, "He's
fucking hammered!" The guy next to me said, "Yeah, he wreaks of
booze." It hit me. He was hammered. Flat out fucking drunk. A lot of
people were pissed and booed him. Conversations everywhere
about how he was done. People talking about burning their VH Cds."
A day in the life of Eddie Van Hobo:
http://www.vhlinks.com/vbforums/showthread.php?t=7839
Forget Paul Stanley and Joe Satriani… Take Me Straight To Eddie Van
Halen
By this time, I figured that I would head over to Peavey and since I
had my press credentials, maybe I would have time to have a few words
with Edward Van Halen, who was due to appear at 1:30. My plan was to
speak with EVH, then cruise by the Ibanez booth and speak with Joe
Satriani (due at 2 PM), and then go to another booth and see Kiss
guitarist Paul Stanley (in full makeup). This is the way things happen
at NAMM on Saturday, “bada-bing,bad-BOOM”!
Well the first thing I found out at Peavey was, that Edward would be
late in arriving. HOW late I did not know. The second thing I found
out was that, I wasn’t the only one that was waiting for him to
arrive. The booth was soon completely FILLED with people. A line
around the booth followed that. Nervous looking Peavey employees and
security guards patiently answered people’s questions about what the
“hubbub” was all about, and WHEN would HE arrive!
While waiting for the great VH, I ran into my friend, Armored
Saint/DC4 guitarist Jeff Duncan. First words out of his mouth were,
“Where’s Eddie”? He told me that he and his old band Odin, featuring
his brother Sean on drums had reunited for a few shows, and that he
would be busy with that and of course the other bands in 2003. By then
the crowd was becoming impatient, (go figure), and no EVH to be seen.
So much for speaking with Satriani or Paul Stanley, or anybody else
for that matter if I was going to get a shot at seeing this dude.
Finally at about 4 PM he showed up and I was ushered into a soundproof
booth that he would be “performing” at. After speaking with company
founder Hartley Peavey upstairs in the office area for quite some
time, Van Halen made his way into the performance booth, completely
MOBBED by his fans. What followed was something bordering on bizarre.
Looking like he just got out of bed, (he may have) and speaking in a
croaking voice, he told the crowd that he would be granting no
interviews or signing anything. Damn! He also refused to discuss
anything about the new products that he and Peavey had been working
on, explaining that he simply didn’t want to give an endorsement to a
product that was still in the experimental stage. After refusing to
answer some of the crowd’s questions about equipment, some one
screamed for him to play, and he reluctantly grabbed a guitar, plugged
it into one of his signature Peavey 5150 amps, and proceeded to noodle
away at it -- with his back to the audience! After turning around and
explaining that he had not been playing much guitar lately, just piano
and cello, (cello?) he played a few vintage riffs before stopping and
telling the crowd that he didn’t want to play anything old for the
“punk-asses” that were inside with their video recorders, taping the
event. He did however start playing the opening riff to “Mean
Streets,” before stopping and once again telling a VERY disappointed
crowd that he would not give them anything from the past. Matter of
fact, he didn’t seem to want to give them anything from the future
either, explaining that he would not play or talk about anything that
wasn’t finished.
Van Halen then smacked his guitar on the microphone stand and one of
the employees heads a few times, saying that that was what he loved
about his guitars, meaning that they could be bashed about and still
stay in tune. He then played a boogie riff that he said he had just
written, and then, just like that, it was over. Off he went,
surrounded by security, and a few hundred disappointed fans. What the
fuck? I (and just about everyone else that was in that room) wondered.
Oh well, that’s rock n roll. Time will tell what will happen with the
future of Van Halen, and the products he will endorse and produce.
What was so weird and coincidental about his tardiness, (“I don’t FEEL
tardy”) was that it bumped a performance by Tribe Of Judah, a new band
featuring the last Van Halen vocalist, Gary Cherone to the next day,
in that same performance booth!
http://share.shutterfly.com/action/pictures?a=67b0de21b3163de6a42f&sid=8AYtG7di5aNHIg
The pics
I got to NAMM day 2 (for me) at 12:30. Eddie was scheduled to appear
and perform at 1:30 and sign autographs 2:30 to 4pm. He showed up and
walked RIGHT directly in front of me and looked bad. He was dressed
like a bum and looked feeble as he walked. He went upstairs where no
one is really allowed and sat where we could sort of see him for about
an hour. A Peavey employee looked annoyed and said that he always
wants to talk business at the wrong times. He waved a bit, and Mark
Tremonti and John Pretucci went upstairs and took pictures with him.
He finally came down and did his performance an hour late. Someone who
was in there said he seemed lost and not quite sure what he was doing.
He talked a bit, played guitar (just noodling), and that was it. No
one really knew his purpose. He went back upstairs and sat in the same
spot. Every once in a while he would lean over and talk, but he said
weird things, would whisper, then his hat fell. He got mad and
screamed saying he needed it, and pleaded and got it back when someone
threw it up to him.
At 4:00pm, after I'd been in line for 3.5 hours, others for 4 or 5, we
get the word he is not signing. This is AFTER we chanted his name and
he leaned over, giving us the 'hush' sign and whispered "Stick around
a while, ok?". So we did for nothing. There were probably 700 or so
people there for him and that was it. The crowd dispersed(sp?), and I
stuck around. Some others did too.
Finally he came downstairs to leave about 4:30. This is where it gets
sad. He looked lost. He kept repeating, very slurred, "I'll take care
of everyone next time, next time. Tell everyone I'll take care of them
next time, next time. He had a small entourage around him of security,
yet he was walking right by me again. He was soft spoken, but very
slurred. He stopped for about one autograph and one picture and then
said to everyone else again what I wrote above. he kind of stumbled
then walked past me.
You know how bums can just wreak of old alcohol. I got a huge wiff of
that as he past. It took me about 5 seconds to say aloud, "He's
fucking hammered!" The guy next to me said, "Yeah, he wreaks of
booze."
It hit me. He was hammered. Flat out fucking drunk.
A lot of people were pissed and booed him. Conversations everywhere
about how he was done. People talking about burning their VH Cds.
I hate to make this report, but its so true. I am 24 and have waited
10 years for this, and I waited in line 3.5 hours while he jacked off
upstairs and then told us to stick around, then he decided to not sign
or meet anyone at all. I don't think they LET him. I think he was too
drunk and they didn't want to embarrass him. Honest to god. I felt so
stunned and sad. My ears were ringing and my shoulders slumped."
http://www.knac.com/article.asp?ArticleID=4094&StartTime=12%2F9%2F2005+2%3A30%3A47+PM
I meant Eddie at the NAMM show a couple years ago and he was such dick
i wanted to kick his ass. No autographs, he was like 3 hours late to
his gig and look liked he was scrapped up from the gutter and to top
it off his attitude was shit. EDDIE CAN GO SUCK AQ DICK!
Newsgroups: rec.music.makers.guitar
Well I made my trek to NAMM a few weeks ago and saw Eddie Van Halen at
the Peavey booth. I was surprised to see how far downhill his health
has gone. He was skinny and his skin made him look 20 years older
than he is.
I was told from a friend of mine who was also at the show that Ed's
security guards kicked some guy out of the mens restroom while he was
using the head, just so Ed could use the restroom, sad days! I was a
huge Van Halen fan but I must say I have lost respect and faith for
Eddie, though he can still draw a crowd, it's his past merits that
keep the ember glowing.
R-Man
http://archive.unearthed.com/?news,2003,01,0000013162
"O.K. guys here's what happened. I was in the booth with Edward. Ed
arrived late because of overcrowding around the booth and they had to
ensure security. I was 4th of only 8 people to be allowed in who were
not connected to Peavey. Ed walked in, greeted the crowd, mentioned
the people responsible for his Peavey gear then said quote. 'I've had
a lot of personal problems in the past 3 years, but I'm happy and
healthy physically, mentally, and spiritually. I see the light at the
end of my tunnel and it's not an oncoming train so I've got some shit
coming out next year that's gonna blow you away.' He was talking of
Peavey gear not music ... sorry. He said he already had a patent on
one device of his coming out but he has to wait to make sure it works
and won't break. As for new music, he said he has some film music
coming out as well as a T.V. sitcom score coming out. Then someone in
the crowd said 'Eddie, everyone loves you,' to which he replied, 'I
love you, too, and that's why I haven't put anything out in a while..
Ya know, people at the gas station keep tellin' me, 'How come you're
not doin' stuff anymore... Ya know, just because I haven't put
anything out doesn't mean I'm not doing anything.' He said for the
past 4 years he has been playing mostly piano and cello and that the
guitar felt like a 2x4. As for the future of VAN HALEN, he said, 'I'm
not going to put my name on something that isn't going to last, my
shit lasts after I'm dead and gone which isn't gonna be for a long
time.' He then took his Wolfgang guitar and banged it hard against a
mike stand. It stayed in tune and Edward said, 'I don't sell you guys
shit that breaks,' and it was clear that he was talking not just about
his gear but about VAN HALEN's music as well. The room was a little
tense. It was hard to believe it was really Edward after so long. But
he joked around a lot to ease the tension, even going so far as to say
that he would sing next for VH. 'I'm gonna sing, I've got some new
moves I've been working on.' He then proceeded to do a series of
pelvic thrusts and hip shakes. It was hysterical. He looked good and
once he had relaxed became the ed we all know ... Then he played
guitar and spoke some more."
Mike Rivers
than gawking at drunk rock stars.
Z_2K
"Joe Namm" <j...@nospam.com> wrote in message
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....a bunch of stuff.
I suspect I'd be hammered, too, if Valerie divorced me. Sad....
Nick Cassimatis
> a lot of personal problems in the past 3 years, but I'm happy and
> healthy physically, mentally, and spiritually. I see the light at the
> end of my tunnel and it's not an oncoming train so I've got some shit
> coming out next year that's gonna blow you away.' He was talking of
That's funny - seriously funny! Eddie Van Halen basically steals a line
from a David Lee Roth solo song (Just Like Paradise)! Maybe, in his heart
of hearts, he still does love Diamond Dave!
--
The Nickster
Think twice, type once.
Z_2K
"Mike Rivers" <mri...@d-and-d.com> wrote in message
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> Maybe this year you should spend your NAMM time looking at gear rather
> than gawking at drunk rock stars.
I would have favored Satch over EVH. Satch is much more coherent. Satch
stands on his own as a guitarist.....doesn't even NEED a singer to do a
two-hour gig. Has EVH ever performed an instrumental other than his
Eruption wank....?
Rich Koerner
Jimi and Johnny are still King!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Screw the rest.
Regards,
Rich Koerner,
Time Electronics.
http://www.timeelect.com
Specialists in Live Sound FOH Engineering,
Music & Studio Production,
Vintage Instruments, and Tube Amplifiers
housemouse
Rich Koerner wrote:
> Z_2K wrote:
> >
> > "Mike Rivers" <mri...@d-and-d.com> wrote in message
> > news:1135860633....@f14g2000cwb.googlegroups.com...
> > > Maybe this year you should spend your NAMM time looking at gear rather
> > > than gawking at drunk rock stars.
> >
> > I would have favored Satch over EVH. Satch is much more coherent. Satch
> > stands on his own as a guitarist.....doesn't even NEED a singer to do a
> > two-hour gig. Has EVH ever performed an instrumental other than his
> > Eruption wank....?
Sure - Cathedral to name one of several. Or do you just mean ones he's
played at NAMM?
I only saw EVH once - pretty much during his peak, and I'd say at the
time he could have easily handled a two hour instrumental gig. Heck his
solo spot was probably 15 - 20 minutes as it was. I'm sure he had a
large catalog of instrumental stuff he knew (his own and other folks)
to draw from ...
These days, who knows? Probably not so much...
I've seen Satch as well, and I agree he was awesome, and still is.
>
> Jimi and Johnny are still King!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
>
> Screw the rest.
>
>
> Regards,
>
> Rich Koerner,
Johnny....
Cash?
Winter?
Asia?
???
Iain Fraser
"Rich Koerner" <ri...@timeelect.com> wrote in message
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eric
started hitting the sauce again.
eric
WolfiesDaddy
> that as he past. It took me about 5 seconds to say aloud, "He's
> fucking hammered!" The guy next to me said, "Yeah, he wreaks of
> booze." It hit me. He was hammered. Flat out fucking drunk. A lot of
> people were pissed and booed him. Conversations everywhere
> about how he was done. People talking about burning their VH Cds."
>
>
> A day in the life of Eddie Van Hobo:
>
> http://www.vhlinks.com/vbforums/showthread.php?t=7839
>
Hey... *hic* what was all that shit.. *hic*
Z_2K
> >
> > "Mike Rivers" <mri...@d-and-d.com> wrote in message
> > news:1135860633....@f14g2000cwb.googlegroups.com...
> > > Maybe this year you should spend your NAMM time looking at gear rather
> > > than gawking at drunk rock stars.
> >
> > I would have favored Satch over EVH. Satch is much more coherent. Satch
> > stands on his own as a guitarist.....doesn't even NEED a singer to do a
> > two-hour gig. Has EVH ever performed an instrumental other than his
> > Eruption wank....?
>
> Jimi and Johnny are still King!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
>
> Screw the rest.
>
No wait !! You meant....Johnny Winter, or course. ;-)
Scott Dorsey
>Maybe this year you should spend your NAMM time looking at gear rather
>than gawking at drunk rock stars.
I stopped going to NAMM years ago, because there were a lot more drunk
rock stars and Chinese pianos than actual gear worth looking at.
--scott
--
"C'est un Nagra. C'est suisse, et tres, tres precis."
John Banks
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<snip>
>Has EVH ever performed an instrumental other than his
>Eruption wank....?
Spanish Fly?
PRS GEEK
Jeff
"Joe Namm" <j...@nospam.com> wrote in message
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> "You know how bums can just wreak of old alcohol. I got a huge wiff of
> that as he past. It took me about 5 seconds to say aloud, "He's
> fucking hammered!" The guy next to me said, "Yeah, he wreaks of
> booze." It hit me. He was hammered. Flat out fucking drunk. A lot of
> people were pissed and booed him. Conversations everywhere
> about how he was done. People talking about burning their VH Cds."
>
>
> A day in the life of Eddie Van Hobo:
>
> http://www.vhlinks.com/vbforums/showthread.php?t=7839
>
> Forget Paul Stanley and Joe Satriani. Take Me Straight To Eddie Van
Dr. Dolittle
> Actually, I think it was the other way around. She left because he had
> started hitting the sauce again.
> eric
That was my first thought.
Steve L.
Ssf.16411$iz3....@text.news.blueyonder.co.uk:
> <snip>
>
>>Has EVH ever performed an instrumental other than his
>>Eruption wank....?
>
> Spanish Fly?
>
He did a soundtrack for a movie some years ago. Can't remember the name
though. Had to do with high school I think. I doubt he ever played it
live.
--
Steve L.
_________________________________________________________________________
_________
"Before you criticize someone you should walk a mile in their shoes.
This way, you're a mile away when you criticize them and you have their
shoes."
-- Unknown
Brian Running
Fascinating. I just can't get enough voyeuristic leering at people's
misfortunes. Too bad you didn't have your gun, you could have shot him!
When you give us your next breathless update, spell "reek" correctly,
okay, Mr. Press Credentials?
John Banks
news:Xns973B510A34C84...@207.115.17.102...
> He did a soundtrack for a movie some years ago. Can't remember the name
> though. Had to do with high school I think. I doubt he ever played it
> live.
Good call. He did 1 or 2 tracks for the Twister movie. I think one was
called something along the lines of "fear the wind".
J.
DAVE
ditttto
"Iain Fraser" <stra...@worldnet.att.net> wrote in message
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> um - stevie ray?
>
Jack Wagner
since she had the kid. It must be tough to be a pop star.
Todd H.
> Actually, I think it was the other way around. She left because he
> had started hitting the sauce again.
Ding ding ding ding ding!
The sad story to me, painted a vivid picture of an EVH wrapped up by
addiction. And good for Valerie for sending his sad ass packin if
this is the way he conducts himself.
Best Regards,
--
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Derek
Eddie. Anyone stupid enough to continue down that path will lose more
that their wife. If he doesn't stop, he will be dead within 5 years
given his history.
tone...@rockisland.com
years ago?
Fronted by Albert Lee, Steve Morse, and Eddie.
On each tune, Albert would rip two solos in his country-fied
Burton-esque style, then Steve would do half a solo in the same vein
and half a solo in a more rockin' style, and then they's hand it off to
Eddie who went ballistic...
One of those "only at a NAMM show" moments....
Steve M. Mann
> Saw VH a few times during their peak - with Roth and with Van Hagar. Sure,
> Eddie gets a long solo spot, put he's been playing the SAME DAMN SOLO for 30
> years! With minor variations, they are all pre-composed, just like the
> record, and timed to the various lighting schemes/crowd response. Very lame.
>
> I mean, did you ever wonder why he doesn't show up on many other albums,
> play benefits, or back another star just for fun? Clapton did it. Jaco did.
> SRV did - and they were hammered out of their skulls for much of their
> carrer.
>
> EVH just strikes me as the typical anal retentive rock guitarist who can't
> function unless everything is absolutely PERFECT, but has no clue what
> perfect is or how to achieve it. So instead, he'll just sit in seclusion and
> nurse his World's Greatest Guitarist ego.
>
> Bleh.
Yup. He certainly has had it rough. :-\ I should be so blessed to have
such a tortured career.
--
Steve
Project-43
http://project43.steve-mann.com/
"If you choose not to decide, you still have made a choice."
Derek
tune "Beat It" He did rip off a pretty nice solo there. BTW as a
conservative moderate with liberal tendancies, I really liked the John
Stuart Mill quote.
The Repair Guy
>"You know how bums can just wreak of old alcohol.
"Reek".
The Repair Guy
http://repairguy1993.netfirms.com/
The Repair Guy
>Jimi and Johnny are still King!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
>Screw the rest.
I think EVH was as important as Hendrix, guitar-wise.
emi...@yahoo.com
Eddie's a true innovator. He changed the way a lot of people look at
playing the guitar, and that is enough!
If he is an alcoholic, that's his own personal demon. Fuck you for
pissing on him while he's down. At least he showed up, that's more than
I would do for a bunch of gawking sycophants.
Derek
innovative playing has influenced a generation of guitarists (me
included), but abhorrent behavior cannot be excused just because he is
a rock star. Perhaps that has been part of his problem. Unfortunately
you are wrong about alcohol being his own personal demon. His wife of
20+ years has certainly been affected as has his teenaged son, and no
doubt others who care about him.
Kevin Collins
I remember reading about that, however the author of the article I was reading
was of the impression that Ed was outclassed in ability and versatility by Lee
and Morse. Granted, both of them have played a much more varied array of music
that EVH...
Kevin
Kevin Collins
I believe the Twister stuff was Van Halen (the band) and not Van Halen (the
man) :)
I remember on "Behind the Music" when Ed was moaning about Sammy adding lyrics
to the main tune, which was supposed to be intrumental, during the VH/Sammy
breakup...
Kevin
John Shaughnessy
Fleet Project. Very loose and relaxed playing, some of his best.
Which makes me wonder why he doesn't do more. The only conclusion I can come
to is what i said above.
As for the quote, you're welcome. I couldn't have said it better myself.
--
Lessons, music and more at www.jmsjazz.com
Conservatives are not necessarily stupid,
but most stupid people are conservatives."
- John Stuart Mill
"Derek" <de...@ycoaoffice.com> wrote in message
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Smak!
He did tunes for some TV movie Val was in too..
Jeff
Todd H.
> What a bloody name dropper.
>
> Eddie's a true innovator. He changed the way a lot of people look at
> playing the guitar
yes he did.
> , and that is enough!
>
> If he is an alcoholic, that's his own personal demon. Fuck you for
> pissing on him while he's down. At least he showed up, that's more
> than I would do for a bunch of gawking sycophants.
If he's a drunk, he's quite responsible for his actions, and deserves
any shitting on he gets from pissed off disappointed fans who waited
to see him and became disappointed when he only managed to act like a
drunk.
If the backlash of pissed off fans and loved ones makes him hit rock
bottom and maybe get himself dried out again, then all the better.
But until then, these accounts appears to paint the picture that he's
pretty tied up in his addiction and isn't much use to anybody.
Or do you have some of your own reasons for wanting the world to
forgive and enable EVH's assinine behavior?
Smak!
> Oh, he's done a few nice one-offs over the years. My favorite was the Star
> Fleet Project. Very loose and relaxed playing, some of his best.
>
> Which makes me wonder why he doesn't do more. The only conclusion I can come
> to is what i said above.
>
> As for the quote, you're welcome. I couldn't have said it better myself.
He has said that Alex doesn't/didn't like him doing outside stuff..
Seems like he did the Michael Jackson thing without telling them because
he didn't think they'd ever hear the song.
That could have been all a EVH BS thing too though.. <g>
Outt..
Jeff
Thad
> Bleh.
>
>
Spoken like a true bass player.
:-)
--
Thad
Thad
> "Rich Koerner" <ri...@timeelect.com> wrote in message
> news:43B3EBB3...@timeelect.com...
>
>>
>>Z_2K wrote:
>>
>>>"Mike Rivers" <mri...@d-and-d.com> wrote in message
>>>news:1135860633....@f14g2000cwb.googlegroups.com...
>>>
>>>>Maybe this year you should spend your NAMM time looking at gear rather
>>>>than gawking at drunk rock stars.
>>>
>>>I would have favored Satch over EVH. Satch is much more coherent. Satch
>>>stands on his own as a guitarist.....doesn't even NEED a singer to do a
>>>two-hour gig. Has EVH ever performed an instrumental other than his
>>>Eruption wank....?
>>
>>Jimi and Johnny are still King!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
>>
>>Screw the rest.
>>
>
> No wait !! You meant....Johnny Winter, or course. ;-)
>
>
I'm pretty sure he meant this man:
http://www.zonalibre.org/blog/surferrosa/johnny_frontpage.jpg
=-)
--
Thad
Hit by a Busch
now ... an *acquaintance* of mine played on a
golf tournament as the 4th member with him put on by a radio
station in Texas (after his cancer recovery .. 2000 ? ) and
he was toasted at 10 AM when they tee'ed
off and drank vodka mixed with cranberry juice
the entire day. He plays quite way under that
condition, but that was his normal state of existence
since his ex kicked him out.
I just don't see him doing the Jimmy Carter Home house building tour
for hobos any time soon.
Dr. Dolittle
> Personally I'd rather read about how Britney Spears boobs are saggy
> since she had the kid. It must be tough to be a pop star.
>
Hahaha! That isn't likely. Those boobs will never sag.
Thad
> EV was toasted at 10 AM when they tee'ed
> off and drank vodka mixed with cranberry juice
OK, that totally ruins it for me.
I can't have my rock star guitar gods drinking chick drinks.
--
Thad
Jerry Shaw
Beatles song. Got himself a guitar, and from there it didn't take him
long...
JS
Dr. Dolittle
Alcoholism Drug Still Awaits Final Approval
http://www.thestreet.com/_tscrss/stocks/biotech/10259368.html
Thad
If they can make it taste like Maker's Mark then I'm all over it.
--
Thad
Hit by a Busch
Steve M. Mann
time then wrote:
> Sure they will.
Silicone rarely sags.
--
Steve
Project-43
http://project43.steve-mann.com/
"Strange how laughter looks like crying with no sound."
The Milky Way
;-) check out the bass line in Robben Ford's "Help the Poor".
Middle C
>I guess all those VH1 "Behind the Music" episodes came too late for
> Eddie. Anyone stupid enough to continue down that path will lose more
> that their wife. If he doesn't stop, he will be dead within 5 years
> given his history.
>
Really makes you wonder. If he did die 15yrs ago he'd have been up there
with the likes of Jimi Hendrix as guitar legends go. Or for that matter
were would Jimi be if he made it through.
Neil Young said it right - 'It's better to fade away than it is to rust.'
plan...@gmail.com
Many years ago, in Sydney Australia, my band was asked if we'd mind if
a certain World Famous guitarist got up with us for a blow. I won't
mention names, but he was as famous as they get, having once played in
the world's most famous band ;-) He had played the same venue the night
before ... anyway, we said 'Yes, of course, it would be an honor, we
can't wait!!' Just before show time, some roadie type shoved a white
Strat into my hands and yelled "open E! Tune it to open E!! I almost
said 'tune it yourself, you rude asshole' but I didn't. I figured it
would be worth it.
We started the set, caught sight of him waiting around, proudly invited
him up. It was as he stumbled cock-eyed onstage that we all thought 'Oh
shit' ... he then proceeded to play the worst, loudest guitar you've
ever heard ... then ... then ... THEN!! Then he started stepping on MY
stomp boxes, in his drunked stupor, and we had to call a stop to the
set and kick him off stage.
A night to remember, a night to forget.
Rick
Was this before or after he was stabbed? I heard George Harrison went
downhill after being stabbed.
tomb...@jhu.edu
> >>
> >Hahaha! That isn't likely. Those boobs will never sag.
>
> Christina Aguilera. You could bounce quarters off Christina's
> stomach, but Britney's always had a little bit of a pudge.
The rest of her may sag, but the silicon will stay put for a long time.
plan...@gmail.com
Dr. Dolittle
> No, it wasn't George ... OK, second most famous band in the World.
>
Well then that would have to be Keith, wouldn't it? Unless it was at a
kiddie function, then a third might come to mind. ;)
Ricky Hunt
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>
> Really makes you wonder. If he did die 15yrs ago he'd have been up there
> with the likes of Jimi Hendrix as guitar legends go. Or for that matter
> were would Jimi be if he made it through.
Definitely. Dying young is a great career move. I think he'll also be
penalized as much for the imitators he spawned (none of which are even close
in musicality to him).
plan...@gmail.com
>kiddie function, then a third might come to mind. ;)
Right band, wrong guitar player ...
Rich Koerner
The Repair Guy wrote:
>
> Rich Koerner <ri...@timeelect.com> wrote:
>
> >Jimi and Johnny are still King!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
> >Screw the rest.
>
> I think EVH was as important as Hendrix, guitar-wise.
>
> The Repair Guy
> http://repairguy1993.netfirms.com/
Till I see and hear a guitar player pull of what Jimi Hendrix and Johnny Winter had, they are still
wanna be's.
Johnny played with a thumb pick what some can't do if their life depended on it. Not to mention,
sing and play slide without looking at the neck, singing to the audience the whole time.
Likewise, Jimi could chew gum, sing & riff his ass of at the same time, know he screwed the lyric,
tell the chick in the audience, and not miss a beat.
EVH and others couldn't even chew gum and still play.
One last point. There is still some Jimi LIVE recorded performances, where none have reproduced
some of the incredible things that produced the sound he made with his guitar, using what was stone
aged gear, compared to what we have around us today.
So, what's the excuse now, for all the ass hole guitar rock stars who can't cut it, with every
advantage technology can buy today, Jimi Hendrix and Johnny Winter NEVER had.
HELLO!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Talk to me!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Talk to me about these clue less so-called guitar heroes of today!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
In their short playing careers, Jimi and Johnny BOTH gave more to guitar in rock music, that any of
today's guitar clowns could in their entire life time.
It's a shame SRV's was cut short. He was just starting to find himself musically.
Regards,
Rich Koerner,
Time Electronics.
http://www.timeelect.com
Specialists in Live Sound FOH Engineering,
Music & Studio Production,
Vintage Instruments, and Tube Amplifiers
David
> >Well then that would have to be Keith, wouldn't it? Unless it was at a
>>kiddie function, then a third might come to mind. ;)
>
> Right band, wrong guitar player ...
>
Watching him on the 50th anniversary of the strat "The Strat Pack Live In
Concert". He looks a bit tipsy.Woody sure isn't what he used to be but then
again, who is?
plan...@gmail.com
band.
wb
>
> Johnny played with a thumb pick what some can't do if their life depended on it. Not to mention,
> sing and play slide without looking at the neck, singing to the audience the whole time.
There is a *white* boy who can play fr&*;-) guitar and
leave all others behind.. including SRV. RIP. They boy can ride
a groove all night.
>
> Likewise, Jimi could chew gum, sing & riff his ass of at the same time, know he screwed the lyric
[1]
,
> tell the chick in the audience, and not miss a beat.
*yah, I missed a verse, don't worry about".
[1] Like a Rolling Stone, Live . few people ever catch that one ;-)
>
> EVH and others couldn't even chew gum and still play.
I saw Dickie Betts do the tapping back in ? 74/72 jamming in the AAB,
not to the extreme EV did.
>
> Talk to me!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
>
I typed insteaded.
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Z_2K
"eric" <er...@nogood.com> wrote in message
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> Actually, I think it was the other way around. She left because he had
> started hitting the sauce again.
> eric
I thought the 'sauce' was his recovery crutch..that his jones was slightly
more potent.
Tommy B
Tom
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Scott Dorsey
It doesn't sound like Arthur Fiedler to me either.
--scott
--
"C'est un Nagra. C'est suisse, et tres, tres precis."
Z_2K
What Neil Young said, in the lyrics to his song "My My, Hey Hey (Out of The
Blue)", was: "It's better to burn out than to fade away..."
Obviously, Mr. Young has followed his own advice, although not to the
positive results he had expected.
Green/Pace
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any more.
Eddie had started "SMOKING" again. He had just had part of his tongue
removed from cancer.
The drinking was less of the problem at the "that" time. But was part of the
overall problem. "HIS EGO"!
She wanted their son to "not" see his father die in flames<<< so to speak.
That's all I got.
Texas Blue
Z_2K
"Ricky Hunt" <rhu...@hotmail.com> wrote in message
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> "Middle C" <Midd...@alltel.net> wrote in message
> news:57b02$43b4b5dd$97d5e15c$13...@ALLTEL.NET...
> >
> > Really makes you wonder. If he did die 15yrs ago he'd have been up
there
> > with the likes of Jimi Hendrix as guitar legends go. Or for that matter
> > were would Jimi be if he made it through.
>
> Definitely. Dying young is a great career move.
Kurt Cobain thought so.
Green/Pace
"Rich Koerner" <ri...@timeelect.com> wrote in message
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I thought he just came out with a new CD???
Check out the Alan Haynes webpage, he & Tommy Shannon << SRV's bass player
backed up Johnny back in the day. Alan ain't no slouch either!
We got to see Johnny & Edgar at all the small clubs around Ft. Worth when
they were up & coming. They played at the Panther Hall Annex< behind the
bowling alley & the volume nearly made us all deaf! (;>} ahhh the good ole
days.
To me Eddie Van Halen was more about "sounds" than music. I like some of his
stuff.
But allot ends up as noise. He came along when that "worked". I never could
stand David Roth, so I tuned them out anyway.
I never understood the "Eruption, is the greatest guitar solo ever thang".
Oh well.
The Repair Guy
>The Repair Guy wrote:
>> >Jimi and Johnny are still King!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
>> >Screw the rest.
>>
>> I think EVH was as important as Hendrix, guitar-
>> wise.
>
>Till I see and hear a guitar player pull of what Jimi
>Hendrix and Johnny Winter had, they are still
>wanna be's.
>Johnny played with a thumb pick what some can't
>do if their life depended on it. Not to mention, sing
>and play slide without looking at the neck, singing
>to the audience the whole time.
>Likewise, Jimi could chew gum, sing & riff his ass
>of at the same time, know he screwed the lyric, tell
>the chick in the audience, and not miss a beat.
>EVH and others couldn't even chew gum and still
>play.
I was talking about guitar playing; not singing or
gum-chewing. You probably like Frank Marino... ?
He's a pretty coordinated guy.
I'm sure you remember the early 80's - every kid was
aping EVH. Within 5 years of their first album, his
influence was everywhere in rock.
>One last point. There is still some Jimi LIVE recorded
>performances, where none have reproduced some
>of the incredible things that produced the sound he
>made with his guitar, using what was stone aged gear,
>compared to what we have around us today.
>So, what's the excuse now, for all the ass hole guitar
>rock stars who can't cut it,
What do you mean by "can't cut it"?
>with every advantage technology can buy today,
>Jimi Hendrix and Johnny Winter NEVER had.
What technological advantages do you think EVH
had? He used a guitar & an amp on that first album,
and I doubt that Jimi or Johnny could have played
anything on it. I'm not saying any of them was "better"
than the others, just different. They're all out of my
league.
>HELLO!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Talk to me!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
>Talk to me about these clue less so-called guitar
>heroes of today!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Just did.
>In their short playing careers, Jimi and Johnny BOTH
>gave more to guitar in rock music, that any of today's
>guitar clowns could in their entire life time.
Debatable. As I said, EVH's influence was/is
pervasive.
>It's a shame SRV's was cut short. He was just
>starting to find himself musically.
Agreed. But wasn't he one of "these clue less
so-called guitar heroes of today" ? :-)
Derek
CompUser
@ALLTEL.NET>, Midd...@alltel.net says...
>
> Neil Young said it right - 'It's better to fade away than it is to rust.'
>
Wasn't that, "It's better to burn out,
than fade away...My my, hey hey"
Green/Pace
(;>}
I like Valerie.
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Mark Davis
<Midd...@alltel.net> wrote:
> Neil Young said it right - 'It's better to fade away than it is to rust.'
Um, I believe he said "It's better to burn out than to fade away" and
"It's better to burn out than it is to rust"
--
Mark Davis
San Angelo, TX
Jack Wagner
>>any more.
>>Eddie had started "SMOKING" again. He had just had part of his tongue
>>removed from cancer.
>>The drinking was less of the problem at the "that" time. But was part of the
>>overall problem. "HIS EGO"!
>>She wanted their son to "not" see his father die in flames<<< so to speak.
>>That's all I got.
>>Texas Blue
What a life you're living when your X-wife can go on Oprah and spill
the beans about your personal problems for every trailer-park mom to
hear. I hope Ed signed a pre-nup and isn't forced to pay her millions
of his rock-star money.
TD Madden
if there is any left... <reply not cross-posted>
Lost In Space
> I hope Ed signed a pre-nup and isn't forced to pay her millions
> of his rock-star money.
>
she's done for TV. She was getting kind of porky last time I
saw her, not much of a Rock & Roll spinner now. She should go
on the Heather Locklear diet and skip the pasta for meals and
stick to meat ;-o
Gary Rosen
"Thad" <spy...@barques.com> wrote in message
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> Dr. Dolittle wrote:
>> Finally, some relief for Eddie?
>>
>>
>> Alcoholism Drug Still Awaits Final Approval
>> http://www.thestreet.com/_tscrss/stocks/biotech/10259368.html
>
> If they can make it taste like Maker's Mark then I'm all over it.
QOTW, if not QOTY!
- Gary Rosen
Dr. Dolittle
>
>
> Definitely. Dying young is a great career move.
That is really giving up your life for your career.
SpringDiver
the shit out of her.
On 30 Dec 2005 09:52:26 -0800, "Jack Wagner" <jack....@gmail.com>
wrote:
wb
>Christina Aguilera. You could bounce quarters off Christina's
>stomach, but Britney's always had a little bit of a pudge
BS looks like trailer trash now with a baby sag,
a cigarette hanging out of her month dragging a kid
and carpet bagger husband in tow. Maybe her next career
will be doing Bush Beer light TV spots for NASCAR
while smoking Winston. agggg. Even worse ,,,
she comes back doing a Super Bowl dance appearance
and sagging boob pops loose ! ... gaggg.
wb
>
>Valerie said on the Opra show, that she was not going to be the "enabler"
> any more.
AA double speak for person married to a alcoholic.
> Eddie had started "SMOKING" again
Translation: Only when he drinks ... which is all the time, then he
smokes while gumming the cigarette.
>The drinking was less of the problem at the "that" time
If I recall ... Drinking, smoking, loaded guns in every rooom, and an
accidential
discharge of a 9mm in the living room and the police showed up kind
soured
the luving Varerie was getting/giving.
Green/Pace
her daughters on there, talking about all the crap that goes on with touring
bands. Kid was in rehab<< been sneaking Dad's stash. Though she did say
Willie never did anything but pot. Well by that time anyway! (;>) Connie
said she couldn't get Willie to quit, so it wasn't a stretch that the kid
was having a hard time of it. Today she is in a band<< last I heard & sober.
Never will understand people getting on TV & airing things out. Lucky Willie
didn't get hassled by several law agencies. IRS was enough!
Texas Blue
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
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Green/Pace
she was more upset "at that time" about the smoking.
He had just had the surgery.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
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John Shaughnessy
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but most stupid people are conservatives."
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"Thad" <spy...@barques.com> wrote in message
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> John Shaughnessy wrote:
>
> > Bleh.
> >
> >
>
> Spoken like a true bass player.
>
> :-)
>
> --
> Thad
Rich Koerner
Not that I know of.
Career wise, was what I had in mind.
> I thought he just came out with a new CD???
I've not heard that.
> Check out the Alan Haynes webpage, he & Tommy Shannon << SRV's bass player
> backed up Johnny back in the day. Alan ain't no slouch either!
Cool. I'll do it.
> We got to see Johnny & Edgar at all the small clubs around Ft. Worth when
> they were up & coming. They played at the Panther Hall Annex< behind the
> bowling alley & the volume nearly made us all deaf! (;>} ahhh the good ole
> days.
Yeah, I miss that too.
> To me Eddie Van Halen was more about "sounds" than music. I like some of his
> stuff.
When the band was new and hungry, I liked them for their vibe, and energy.
It was good showmanship, and it worked with the music.
Most of all, it rocked.
> But allot ends up as noise. He came along when that "worked". I never could
> stand David Roth, so I tuned them out anyway.
> I never understood the "Eruption, is the greatest guitar solo ever thang".
> Oh well.
> That's all I got.
> Texas Blue
Actually, there is a Rick Darringer version of Mean Town Blues, that has the Van Halen vibe going
on.
I think Rick had it out before Van Halen.
Maybe Rick started it, and they found it.
I could be wrong though.
wb
Go figure. Looks like a rigged voting to me. ..
The voters never listened to "Are you Experenced" IMO,
even out takes of Hendrix tuning would send terror and fear into
of the blood of any EV copy cat today..
Green/Pace
Here's his new agency webpage.
Type in "johnny winter new cd" to your browser & you'll find a site that has
all his other cd's. The url was to long to post.
His most recent is 2005 Johnny B. Good
Want to split his personal appearance fee & have a party? (;>}~
Texas Bluenews:43B67180...@timeelect.com...
Fred Marx
> On 30 Dec 2005 17:33:26 -0800, "wb" <b24warbab...@hotmail.com>
yeah at the back of my throat.... GAAAAAAAAAK!
Hit by a Busch.
but the article/conclusion (after pruning)
is Rory,John Petrucci ( who ever that is) and
SRV in the top 3 ... still *not* in the same
category as Hendrix IMO too.
Burnham Treezdown
wrote:
>Never will understand people getting on TV & airing things out.
1. $$$
2. Exposure
3. $$$$
4. Notoriety
5. $$$$$
6. Book sales
7. $$$$$$$$$
8. "There's no such thing as bad publicity." - Keef
9. $$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$
Burnham Treezdown
>On Fri, 30 Dec 2005 01:13:49 GMT, "Steve M. Mann"
><rocke...@LOOSEITsteve-mann.com> wrote:
>
>>On 12/29/2005 6:08 PM, Boom pondered for some undetermined amount of
>>time then wrote:
>>
>>> On Thu, 29 Dec 2005 23:05:34 GMT, "Dr. Dolittle" <p...@spamblaster.not>
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>>>Jack Wagner wrote:
>>>>> Personally I'd rather read about how Britney Spears boobs are saggy
>>>>> since she had the kid. It must be tough to be a pop star.
>>>>>
>>>>Hahaha! That isn't likely. Those boobs will never sag.
>>>
>>> Sure they will.
>>
>>Silicone rarely sags.
>
>It can if she gets really fat. She can get all fat and her implants
>will be like a Super Ball in a hot water bottle...not big enough to
>support it. And fat is what I see on the horizon for Britney. She's
>too much of a hedonist to ever starve herself.
Aren't those nipples really valve stems? A trip to Checker for some
Fix-a-Flat and WA-LAA! - she's just as talented as ever.
Ben Bradley
wrote:
>No no, *Johnny*. Johnny was a school boy when he heard his first
>Beatles song. Got himself a guitar, and from there it didn't take him
>long...
I always thought that Johnny was a reference to Jimi, though it
described a lot of others too.
>
>JS
SpringDiver
Les Cargill
> On 29 Dec 2005 15:48:37 -0800, "Jerry Shaw" <jerr...@direcway.com>
> wrote:
>
>
>>No no, *Johnny*. Johnny was a school boy when he heard his first
>>Beatles song. Got himself a guitar, and from there it didn't take him
>>long...
>
>
> I always thought that Johnny was a reference to Jimi,
Timeline is wrong. Jimi was already a relatively established
player by 1964.
http://www.hotshotdigital.com/WellAlwaysRemember/JimiHendrixBio.html
"The following four years were hard work touring the States playing
back-up guitar for various R&B bands including Little Richard, Ike
and Tina Turner, Wilson Pickett, the Isley Brothers and the late
King Curtis among others. The conditions were not suited to his
radical temperament and eventually he was drawn to New York 's
Greenwich Village where he recorded with the Isley Brothers, Curtis
Knight and various other artists.
Then in late 1965 he formed his first band - Jimmy James and the
Blue Flames".
> though it
> described a lot of others too.
>
It describes the general pattern established by Hank Williams,
if not before. Say, Robert Johnson.
But it's only a lyric.
>
>>JS
>
>
--
Les Cargill
--
Les Cargill
Burnham Treezdown
wrote:
>
>> though it
>> described a lot of others too.
>>
>
>It describes the general pattern established by Hank Williams,
>if not before. Say, Robert Johnson.
Mozart.
Les Cargill
No, not Mozart.
--
Les Cargill
Burnham Treezdown
wrote:
>Burnham Treezdown wrote:
>
>> On Sat, 31 Dec 2005 21:20:16 GMT, Les Cargill <lNOca...@cfl.Arr.com>
>> wrote:
>>
>>
>>
>>>>though it
>>>>described a lot of others too.
>>>>
>>>
>>>It describes the general pattern established by Hank Williams,
>>>if not before. Say, Robert Johnson.
>>
>>
>> Mozart.
>
>No, not Mozart.
Right. No guitar. No Beatles either.
Les Cargill
> On Sat, 31 Dec 2005 21:50:29 GMT, Les Cargill <lNOca...@cfl.Arr.com>
> wrote:
>
>
>>Burnham Treezdown wrote:
>>
>>
>>>On Sat, 31 Dec 2005 21:20:16 GMT, Les Cargill <lNOca...@cfl.Arr.com>
>>>wrote:
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>>>though it
>>>>>described a lot of others too.
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>>It describes the general pattern established by Hank Williams,
>>>>if not before. Say, Robert Johnson.
>>>
>>>
>>>Mozart.
>>
>>No, not Mozart.
>
>
> Right. No guitar. No Beatles either.
>
No, yer overestimahfyin' the hi-storical significuppance of the
Chalkies again.
--
Les Cargill [P-Nuts and Hair-Dos]
Dr. Dolittle
> It describes the general pattern established by Hank Williams,
> if not before. Say, Robert Johnson.
>
> But it's only a lyric.
Yup, fiction. Just like the guy in the Foreigner song standing in the rain.