Gamespot: Most dissapointing game of the year...

[Adam B]

Worst game of the year, Kabuki Warriors for Xbox.
Nuff said

[Phillip Jones]

that, and Gamespot are bias as well.

--
~KoalaKiller

***

Episode 16.

Weasel: So what are you going to do, Nene?
Nene: Mmmm, well your the Weasel, what would you suggest?
Weasel: I think your screwed

Episode 3.

Nene: At least she wanted me for my mind, not my body!
Linna: Yeah, I kind of thought it might've been like that.

~Bubblegum Crisis: Tokyo 2040

"Adam B" <adb...@ucla.edu> wrote in message
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[vokabz]

I don't know how Max Payne got in there, it wasn't even that good.
"DaMan" <Da...@hotmail.com> wrote in message
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> http://gamespot.com/gamespot/features/video/bestof_2001/p4_01.html
>
> Luigi's Mansion
>
>
>
> Best Shooter of the year:
>
> http://gamespot.com/gamespot/features/video/bestof_2001/p3_17.html
>
> Halo
>
>
> Even out of the top 10 games, SSB:M finished 10th, and it was also
> rated Gamecube's best game....
>
> http://gamespot.com/gamespot/features/video/bestof_2001/p6_01.html
>
> http://gamespot.com/gamespot/features/video/bestof_2001/p5_04.html
>
>

[Ethan Hammond]

DaMan wrote:
>
> http://gamespot.com/gamespot/features/video/bestof_2001/p4_01.html
>
> Luigi's Mansion
>
> Best Shooter of the year:
>
> http://gamespot.com/gamespot/features/video/bestof_2001/p3_17.html
>
> Halo
>
> Even out of the top 10 games, SSB:M finished 10th, and it was also
> rated Gamecube's best game....
>
> http://gamespot.com/gamespot/features/video/bestof_2001/p6_01.html
>
> http://gamespot.com/gamespot/features/video/bestof_2001/p5_04.html

And let us nor forget, Best Graphics of the Year, Dead or Alive 3.

--
All Purpose Cultural Randomness
http://www.angelfire.com/tx/apcr/index.html

[Shadow]

"DaMan" <Da...@hotmail.com> wrote in message
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>

[snip]

Aaaaand...this is supposed to mean something? We're all supposed to sell
off our Gamecubes and slave away under our Xboxes like good little drones?
If I relied on a website to tell me what to play, I'd be a very sad
individual...something like you, I suppose.

[John Canepa]

Even though I like my Xbox, and enjoy playing the great games so far, I have
to say that Max Payne should be right up there with most disappointing game
of the year. Even on my PC that game disappointed me. I remember waiting a
long time, with preorders and all. It didn't live up to what I expected at
all. As a matter of fact, I never even finished that game. Couldn't
motivate myself to do it. For a sidenote, I once again was at Fry's
watching people play all they systems, and Xbox looks best hands down. I
mean no disrespect, but it shines. Some dude was playing that Jak and
whatever game for PS2, and it was very dull in color and lots of jaggies. I
told my friend maybe it's the monitor he is playing on, and he told me he
didn't think so considering it was a $1800 monitor.....LOL! So even on the
best stuff it looks very outdated already. The Xbox on an ordinary TV had
RICH color and smooth animations with no slowdown. What disappoints me most
is the lack of color and major slowdowns. Not to mention weak resolutions.
Peace!

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[Jimmery]

LOL!!! go dood!

[Tempora]

"Shadow" <ne...@marcus.com> wrote in message
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>

> "DaMan" <Da...@hotmail.com> wrote in message
> news:orvn2u4lcj949lmhj...@4ax.com...
> >
>
> [snip]
>
> Aaaaand...this is supposed to mean something? We're all supposed to sell
> off our Gamecubes and slave away under our Xboxes like good little drones?

No, YOU keep your Gamecube and slave away under your Gamecube like a good
little drone.

[sabotender]

Its too early to buy a cube, maybe when RE comes out. I don't understand
why people run out and buy consoles that don't even have games they want to
play yet.

[Terry Scott]

"Ethan Hammond" <esha...@worldnet.att.net> wrote in message
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> DaMan wrote:
> >
> > http://gamespot.com/gamespot/features/video/bestof_2001/p4_01.html
> >
> > Luigi's Mansion
> >
> > Best Shooter of the year:
> >
> > http://gamespot.com/gamespot/features/video/bestof_2001/p3_17.html
> >
> > Halo
> >
> > Even out of the top 10 games, SSB:M finished 10th, and it was also
> > rated Gamecube's best game....
> >
> > http://gamespot.com/gamespot/features/video/bestof_2001/p6_01.html
> >
> > http://gamespot.com/gamespot/features/video/bestof_2001/p5_04.html
>
> And let us nor forget, Best Graphics of the Year, Dead or Alive 3.
>

And let us not forget, runnerup for most disapointing game of the year, Dead
or Alive 3.

[Skye]

Towards which system? That's right, towards none.

Skye

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[Skye]

"Shadow" <ne...@marcus.com> wrote in message
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>

Actually the drones bought the Gamecube. Gamers bought Playstation 2s.

Skye

[Aaron D. Thompson]

And the truly enlightened people bought both (like me).

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---------------------
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[nebula]

"sabotender" <s...@boten.der> wrote in message
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> Its too early to buy a cube, maybe when RE comes out. I don't understand
> why people run out and buy consoles that don't even have games they want
to
> play yet.
>

I do want to play smash bros.:melee and i do want to play pikmin and i do i
want to play waverace. Damn straight, just because they didn't get in the
top ten best of the year doesn't mean i don't want it!

--

-nebula-

"blame the canadian, slap the kicksen -- this is agvngc"

But yeah, hey don't be like me :o)

[nebula]

>
> Actually the drones bought the Gamecube. Gamers bought Playstation 2s.
>

Actually the gamers bought all 3 consoles.

[stinky]

nebula wrote:

> "sabotender" <s...@boten.der> wrote in message
> news:Xns9185395...@24.94.170.26...
> > Its too early to buy a cube, maybe when RE comes out. I don't understand
> > why people run out and buy consoles that don't even have games they want
> to
> > play yet.
> >
>
> I do want to play smash bros.:melee and i do want to play pikmin and i do i
> want to play waverace. Damn straight, just because they didn't get in the
> top ten best of the year doesn't mean i don't want it!

You're an idiot. Those games are for flamers.

[D2³]

DaMan wrote in message ...

>http://gamespot.com/gamespot/features/video/bestof_2001/p4_01.html
>
>Luigi's Mansion
>

Pretty amazing when you realize that Luigi's Mansion outsold the xbox's best
game, Halo. Doesnt say much for Halo, if more people are buying the "most
disappointing game of the year" over the "best shooter of the year"

Oh and by the way, Unreal Tournament is the best shooter of the year.

--
"Money manifest the greed, greed manisfest the murder,
murder manifest revenge, holding the cycle of the sin."

- "I shot Lucifer" by Bionic Jive

[chemman]

Don't forget Super Monkey Ball! I have been delightfully surprised at how
fun this game is for my family.

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[nebula]

"chemman" <v...@hotmail.com> wrote in message
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> Don't forget Super Monkey Ball! I have been delightfully surprised at how
> fun this game is for my family.
>

overall it was a great game, i just unfortunately never got into it and got
rid of it.

[nebula]

"stinky" <sti...@stank.org> wrote in message
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> nebula wrote:
>
> > "sabotender" <s...@boten.der> wrote in message
> > news:Xns9185395...@24.94.170.26...
> > > Its too early to buy a cube, maybe when RE comes out. I don't
understand
> > > why people run out and buy consoles that don't even have games they
want
> > to
> > > play yet.
> > >
> >
> > I do want to play smash bros.:melee and i do want to play pikmin and i
do i
> > want to play waverace. Damn straight, just because they didn't get in
the
> > top ten best of the year doesn't mean i don't want it!
>
> You're an idiot. Those games are for flamers.
>

Actually, they're games for people who like them. If you don't like them,
that's your problem. I do.

[nebula]

"D2³" <laug...@yoursorryass.com> wrote in message
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>
>
> DaMan wrote in message ...
> >http://gamespot.com/gamespot/features/video/bestof_2001/p4_01.html
> >
> >Luigi's Mansion
> >
>
> Pretty amazing when you realize that Luigi's Mansion outsold the xbox's
best
> game, Halo. Doesnt say much for Halo, if more people are buying the "most
> disappointing game of the year" over the "best shooter of the year"
>
> Oh and by the way, Unreal Tournament is the best shooter of the year.
>

Actualy, i give halo credit for being the best shooter of the year. It's a
great game...it really is.

But luigi's mansion? most disappointing? For fuck's sake! I knew it
wasn't going to be anything incredibly amazing....was i the only one? i
don't think any game on the gamecube is that disappointing, besides perhaps
universal studios or something. But luigi's mansion, i don't think, was the
intended flagship title for the GCN, people just labelled it as that because
it was associated in some way with mario.

Anyway, the best games will come out a year or so from now....so i really
don't care what anyone has to say about the gamecube now, i love it....and
even moreso after all those great games come out.

[Darien Allen]

Journey with us to Fri, 28 Dec 2001 08:05:20 GMT, and here Ethan
Hammond <esha...@worldnet.att.net> bless us with this wisdom:

>And let us nor forget, Best Graphics of the Year, Dead or Alive 3.

I bet Tecmo wished that award translated into sales...DOA3 has
vanished from the top ten...

______________________________________________________________________________
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[Steve]

I agree Kabuki is the *worst* game, but the most disappointing game is
different. There wasn't the hype for Kabuki that there was for Luigi's.
Thats what translates into disappointing.

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[Pluto (M)]

"Tempora" <temp...@hotmail.com> wrote in message
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> "Shadow" <ne...@marcus.com> wrote in message
> news:EkWW7.16236$L17.370...@newssvr14.news.prodigy.com...
> >
> > "DaMan" <Da...@hotmail.com> wrote in message
> > news:orvn2u4lcj949lmhj...@4ax.com...
> > >
> >
> > [snip]
> >
> > Aaaaand...this is supposed to mean something? We're all supposed to sell
> > off our Gamecubes and slave away under our Xboxes like good little drones?
>
> No, YOU keep your Gamecube and slave away under your Gamecube like a good
> little drone.

How 'bout we /all/ shut the hell up, stick to what we want to play, and not
harrass each other about our purchases, hmm?

[Pluto (M)]

"stinky" <sti...@stank.org> wrote in message news:3C2C8F77...@stank.org...

> nebula wrote:
>
> > "sabotender" <s...@boten.der> wrote in message
> > news:Xns9185395...@24.94.170.26...
> > > Its too early to buy a cube, maybe when RE comes out. I don't understand
> > > why people run out and buy consoles that don't even have games they want
> > to
> > > play yet.
> > >
> >
> > I do want to play smash bros.:melee and i do want to play pikmin and i do i
> > want to play waverace. Damn straight, just because they didn't get in the
> > top ten best of the year doesn't mean i don't want it!
>
> You're an idiot. Those games are for flamers.

WTF? How did you get out of my killfile, y'ruddy troll?

[Gene Poole, G.D.I.]

sabotender wrote:
>
> Its too early to buy a cube, maybe when RE comes out. I don't understand
> why people run out and buy consoles that don't even have games they want to
> play yet.

what if we really really like rogue leader and monkey ball?

>
> > Aaaaand...this is supposed to mean something? We're all supposed to
> > sell off our Gamecubes and slave away under our Xboxes like good little
> > drones? If I relied on a website to tell me what to play, I'd be a very
> > sad individual...something like you, I suppose.

--
Gene Poole ł

--Signature sold separately--

[Skye]

I'm a gamer, and I bought all three, and find nothing worth playing on the
GC, and only Halo for the Xbox, which I'm done with now. This time next year
will tell the tale which if any of the new consoles have staying power. The
PS2 proved itself this year, and hopefully it keeps going.

skye

"nebula" <ah...@argghh.com> wrote in message

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[Gene Poole, G.D.I.]

nebula wrote:
>
> >
> > Actually the drones bought the Gamecube. Gamers bought Playstation 2s.
> >
>
> Actually the gamers bought all 3 consoles.

actually the rich gamers bought all three consoles. gamers bought
whatever console had the games they preferred. if there was more than
one console that had games they wanted, and they could afford both the
time and the money for more than one console, then they bought a second,
and possibly a third.

[Gene Poole, G.D.I.]

stinky wrote:
>
> nebula wrote:
>
> > "sabotender" <s...@boten.der> wrote in message
> > news:Xns9185395...@24.94.170.26...
> > > Its too early to buy a cube, maybe when RE comes out. I don't understand
> > > why people run out and buy consoles that don't even have games they want
> > to
> > > play yet.
> > >
> >
> > I do want to play smash bros.:melee and i do want to play pikmin and i do i
> > want to play waverace. Damn straight, just because they didn't get in the
> > top ten best of the year doesn't mean i don't want it!
>
> You're an idiot. Those games are for flamers.

...and by flamer, of course, he meant usenet losers who insult people,
like himself :)

hey wait...didn't I killfile you, treemonkey? change yer email didja?

[Gene Poole, G.D.I.]

"D2ł" wrote:
>
> DaMan wrote in message ...
> >http://gamespot.com/gamespot/features/video/bestof_2001/p4_01.html
> >
> >Luigi's Mansion
> >
>
> Pretty amazing when you realize that Luigi's Mansion outsold the xbox's best
> game, Halo. Doesnt say much for Halo, if more people are buying the "most
> disappointing game of the year" over the "best shooter of the year"
>
> Oh and by the way, Unreal Tournament is the best shooter of the year.

Halo's excellent...

...for the first 2 hours. Then it makes you want to pound nails through
your dick just for some excitement.

[Gene Poole, G.D.I.]

Darien Allen wrote:
>
> Journey with us to Fri, 28 Dec 2001 08:05:20 GMT, and here Ethan
> Hammond <esha...@worldnet.att.net> bless us with this wisdom:
>
> >And let us nor forget, Best Graphics of the Year, Dead or Alive 3.
>
> I bet Tecmo wished that award translated into sales...DOA3 has
> vanished from the top ten...

she kicks high.

[sabotender]

Hey stinky try pulling that engorged dick out of your intestines before you
talk.

[Gary Udstrand]

"D2³" <laug...@yoursorryass.com> wrote in
news:iv0X7.206002$n5.29...@typhoon.nyc.rr.com:

> Pretty amazing when you realize that Luigi's Mansion outsold the xbox's
> best game, Halo. Doesnt say much for Halo, if more people are buying
> the "most disappointing game of the year" over the "best shooter of the
> year"

It is more a testament to the fact that there are very few choices for
the GameCube. Of course all the GC owners bought Luigi's mansion, what
else was there? Rogue Squadron? OK two lousy games worth owning.

In contrast to the XBOX who had 17(?) launch titles and several that
were very well recieved. GC may have some games in its future but one
thing is clear, there is not a lot out there right now. In that department
the XBOX owns the GC (and yeah, I know the PS2 owns the XBOX but it has
been around for over a year as well).

[Gene Poole, G.D.I.]

Gary Udstrand wrote:
>
> "D2ł" <laug...@yoursorryass.com> wrote in

your logic is ~extremely~ flawed. Luigi's Mansion was 1st party, and RL
had special attention from Nintendo, yet they were not the only launch
games for the GC. There were more games released for the GC than just 2.

several were ports, but Super Monkey Ball was released with the GC
launch. Also, many games have been released since launch. what about
Pikmin?

you say there ~are~ not many choices for the GC, speaking present tense,
and then speak of RL and LM, yet they were choices specifically for
launch (though not the only choices, as I have pointed out) Then you go
on about the XBox's launch games, but we're past the launch. are ther
more than 17 games for the XBox now? there are for the GC.

I think you need to be a lil more concise with your argument, and get
your facts straight, also :)

HTH

[Shadow]

"sabotender" <s...@boten.der> wrote in message
news:Xns9185395...@24.94.170.26...
> Its too early to buy a cube, maybe when RE comes out. I don't understand
> why people run out and buy consoles that don't even have games they want
to
> play yet.
>

Maybe because the cube did have a bunch of games I wanted to play now? I
don't know about everyone else, but I have five games I enjoy, hence why I
got my cube.

[Shadow]

"Skye" <carolina...@yahoo.com> wrote in message
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>

No, the gamers bought whatever console had the games they wanted to play.

[Shadow]

"Michael Silvestri" <silve...@adelphia.net> wrote in message
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> in article EkWW7.16236$L17.370...@newssvr14.news.prodigy.com, Shadow
at
> ne...@marcus.com wrote on 12/28/01 3:47 AM:

>
> >
> > "DaMan" <Da...@hotmail.com> wrote in message
> > news:orvn2u4lcj949lmhj...@4ax.com...
> >>
> >
> > [snip]
> >
> > Aaaaand...this is supposed to mean something? We're all supposed to
sell
> > off our Gamecubes and slave away under our Xboxes like good little
drones?
> > If I relied on a website to tell me what to play, I'd be a very sad
> > individual...something like you, I suppose.
> >
> >
>

> LOL! It was painfull for me to buy a Microsoft product after all the
damage
> they caused to consumers over the years. I hope the goverment punishes
> Microsoft properly for operating illegally. But, I sucked it up and bought
> the XBOX because it is the ultimate gaming system. I think the Xbox is one
> reason to buy a microsoft product.
>
I don't. No good games out yet. And before you say 'Halo', I hate FPS
games.

[Shadow]

"DaMan" <Da...@hotmail.com> wrote in message

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> On Fri, 28 Dec 2001 15:48:30 GMT, "D2³" <laug...@yoursorryass.com>
> wrote:
>
> >Pretty amazing when you realize that Luigi's Mansion outsold the xbox's
best
> >game, Halo. Doesnt say much for Halo, if more people are buying the "most
> >disappointing game of the year" over the "best shooter of the year"
> >
> >Oh and by the way, Unreal Tournament is the best shooter of the year.
>

> No, all it says is that there wasn't much available and they had to
> buy something to play on their cube...

You do realize there were 15+ games out at the GC launch, right? Good. I
think people had a good deal of choices, unlike the bundles Microsoft's
pushing, which all have Halo in them.

[Ursus Horribilis]

"John Canepa" <wiseguy...@home.com> wrote in message news:<SzXW7.6120$NC1.1...@news1.elcjn1.sdca.home.com>...
> For a sidenote, I once again was at Fry's
> watching people play all they systems, and Xbox looks best hands down. I
> mean no disrespect, but it shines. Some dude was playing that Jak and
> whatever game for PS2, and it was very dull in color and lots of jaggies. I
> told my friend maybe it's the monitor he is playing on, and he told me he
> didn't think so considering it was a $1800 monitor.....LOL! So even on the
> best stuff it looks very outdated already. The Xbox on an ordinary TV had
> RICH color and smooth animations with no slowdown. What disappoints me most
> is the lack of color and major slowdowns. Not to mention weak resolutions.
> Peace!
>

Give me your address, I'll ship over the "Xbox is number one" foam
fingers and the Microsoft flag to your house. What a joker. Going down
to Fry's to compare systems. You're an adult now Mr. Canepa, find
better things to do with your time.

By the way which system are you referring to in regards to the lack of
color and the major slowdowns? So far all systems seem to display
plenty of colors and all have games with slowdown problems.

------
Ursus
------

[Shadow]

"Gary Udstrand" <g...@completeis.com> wrote in message
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> "D2³" <laug...@yoursorryass.com> wrote in
> news:iv0X7.206002$n5.29...@typhoon.nyc.rr.com:
>
> > Pretty amazing when you realize that Luigi's Mansion outsold the xbox's
> > best game, Halo. Doesnt say much for Halo, if more people are buying
> > the "most disappointing game of the year" over the "best shooter of the
> > year"
>
> It is more a testament to the fact that there are very few choices for
> the GameCube. Of course all the GC owners bought Luigi's mansion, what
> else was there? Rogue Squadron? OK two lousy games worth owning.

SMB, Waverace, Tony Hawk, etc. etc. Just because you think they're bad
doesn't make them bad. Try repeating that till the stupidity goes away.

>
> In contrast to the XBOX who had 17(?) launch titles and several that
> were very well recieved.

So far the only game anyone's raved about is Halo. The other games got
moderate reviews, most of them worse than the GC games.

>GC may have some games in its future but one
> thing is clear, there is not a lot out there right now.

Except the several games that are worth buying. Yeah, what a horrible
system, having less than fifty games a month after launch.

[PlumberCrackBoy]

I do believe that you are talking out of you ass.

I am a cube owner who has not even played Luigi yet. I own SMB, RL,
Wave Race, and TH3. I bought Wave Race and TH3 at the time I got the
system. I think that they are all great games. I still want to pick
up Pikmin and Luigi. That is 6 games right now that I want.

I won't say anything about the xbox games That I havn't played because
I don't like flame wars. All it is a bunch of assholes spewing shit
back and forth with real meaning.

On Fri, 28 Dec 2001 19:49:18 GMT, Gary Udstrand <g...@completeis.com>
wrote:

[Shadow]

"DaMan" <Da...@hotmail.com> wrote in message

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> On Fri, 28 Dec 2001 06:41:09 GMT, adb...@ucla.edu (Adam B) wrote:
>
> >Worst game of the year, Kabuki Warriors for Xbox.
> >Nuff said
>

> Ya, but it didn't seel, Luigi was swallowed up by almost every
> Gamecube owner, right?

Which means people liked it. Your argument is rather flawed, you know that?
And before you tell me "they all had no choice," there were more games out
than just LM and RL, so people had plenty of choices. They CHOSE to buy
Luigi's Mansion. Not so with the Xbox bundles and Halo.

[sam]

he's not an adult - he still wears diapers

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[sam]

nibble on this - the smell of rotting warm toad flesh cooked on one of these
http://www.weber.com/Public_Weber/index.asp?section=grills

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[sam]

We had limited choices, but we are proud of them even if they fall short of
your expectations

sam

"Shadow" <ne...@marcus.com> wrote in message

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[Ethan Hammond]

Darien Allen wrote:
>
> Journey with us to Fri, 28 Dec 2001 08:05:20 GMT, and here Ethan
> Hammond <esha...@worldnet.att.net> bless us with this wisdom:
>
> >And let us nor forget, Best Graphics of the Year, Dead or Alive 3.
>
> I bet Tecmo wished that award translated into sales...DOA3 has
> vanished from the top ten...

Yet it is still in the top 20 around #13 or #14.

--
All Purpose Cultural Randomness
http://www.angelfire.com/tx/apcr/index.html

[reastlack]

"Steve" <van...@yahoo.com> wrote in message
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> I agree Kabuki is the *worst* game, but the most disappointing game is
> different. There wasn't the hype for Kabuki that there was for Luigi's.
> Thats what translates into disappointing.

Hype? Hype generated by who? The only reason LM could be considered
disappointing is because people wanted a true Mario game and there wasn't
one at launch, so LM is picked as a scapegoat of sorts. Nintendo never
implied that LM would be anything more than what it is. Anybody who is
disappointed by this game wasn't paying attention to what Nintendo was
saying and is guilty of taking internet articles full of wishful thinking
way too seriously.

[Shrek]

In article <Xns918587E4217C7...@206.10.149.45>, Gary Udstrand <g...@completeis.com> wrote:
>"D2ł" <laug...@yoursorryass.com> wrote in

>news:iv0X7.206002$n5.29...@typhoon.nyc.rr.com:
>
>> Pretty amazing when you realize that Luigi's Mansion outsold the xbox's
>> best game, Halo. Doesnt say much for Halo, if more people are buying
>> the "most disappointing game of the year" over the "best shooter of the
>> year"
>
> It is more a testament to the fact that there are very few choices for
>the GameCube. Of course all the GC owners bought Luigi's mansion, what
>else was there? Rogue Squadron? OK two lousy games worth owning.
>

Really fucktard? In addition to LM, we have been enjoying Super Smash Bros.
Melee, Super Monkey Ball and Wave Race. Also wouldn't mind picking up a few
others like Pikmin. My kids really enjoy the multilplayer games where the
actually get to compete with each other.

> In contrast to the XBOX who had 17(?) launch titles and several that
>were very well recieved. GC may have some games in its future but one
>thing is clear, there is not a lot out there right now. In that department
>the XBOX owns the GC (and yeah, I know the PS2 owns the XBOX but it has
>been around for over a year as well).
>

And all 17 of these XBox titles are great, right? Shrek, DOA3 (runner up for
disappointing game of the year), NFL Fever where it snows in Tampa, Oddworld
where you run around collecting big green turds...sort of like Pacman in 3d.
How about Fusion Frenzy...probably the worst multiplayer game to ever appear
on any platform? Halo? Sure it's ok, but once you get beyond the slightly
better graphics it doesn't offer anything that I can't find on my PC.

[Shadow]

"sam" <458...@aol.com> wrote in message
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> We had limited choices, but we are proud of them even if they fall short
of
> your expectations
>
> sam
>

Try replying to the right person next time.

[sabotender]

I love how everyone claims to love the crap launch games that came with
their fanboy console. Xbox, PS2, GC...they all do it.

I don't even claim to have liked SSX or Fantavision, or any of the other
crap that launched with the PS2. Same goes for garbage like Halo, PGR, and
all that Luigi business.

[Shadow]

"sabotender" <s...@boten.der> wrote in message

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> I love how everyone claims to love the crap launch games that came with
> their fanboy console. Xbox, PS2, GC...they all do it.

That's probably the stupidest flame I've ever seen. You're basically
claiming no one could ever enjoy any launch title simply because you think
it's crap, and anyone who says they enjoy it is a fanboy and lying out of
their ass. Never mind that some people buy two or more consoles and aren't
partial to any system, or that some people are first-time console-buyers and
aren't partial to any of these companies, they have to be fanboys because
they *gasp!* ENJOY launch titles! How sad...

>
> I don't even claim to have liked SSX or Fantavision, or any of the other
> crap that launched with the PS2. Same goes for garbage like Halo, PGR,
and
> all that Luigi business.
>

If you don't like a game, fine. It doesn't mean other people shouldn't like
it. I'm sorry to inform you, but you don't shape anyone else's opinion
about their gaming choices.

[rdhwk21]

What are jaggies? also, i was at best buy the other day buying a cd
and I went over the the game section and this one kid was playing
crash bandicoot for PS2 (I have PS2 and crash bandicoot). It was a
flatscreen monitor and it looked like PS1 graphics. This is just my
personal opinion, but the flat screen TV's (at least the small ones),
games look worse on.

[rdhwk21]

Because THEY like the games. maybe you dont like some of the games on
the gamecube right now, but other people do. Its a matter of personal
choice. For example, i HATE RPG's...hate them, cant stand them.
Other people, thats all they play. Its just a choice.

[rdhwk21]

I believe Nintendo is targeted towards kids...not flamers :) ANd I am
STRAIGHT, and I enjoy wave race and playing smash bros. with my
friends...soemthing you should get.

[rdhwk21]

And people with jobs bought both :)

Damn I need a job!

>
> Actually the drones bought the Gamecube. Gamers bought Playstation 2s.
>

> Skye

[Shadow]

"John Canepa" <wiseguy...@home.com> wrote in message
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> Even though I like my Xbox, and enjoy playing the great games so far, I
have
> to say that Max Payne should be right up there with most disappointing
game
> of the year. Even on my PC that game disappointed me. I remember waiting
a
> long time, with preorders and all. It didn't live up to what I expected
at
> all. As a matter of fact, I never even finished that game. Couldn't
> motivate myself to do it. For a sidenote, I once again was at Fry's

> watching people play all they systems, and Xbox looks best hands down. I

> mean no disrespect, but it shines. Some dude was playing that Jak and

> whatever game for PS2, and it was very dull in color and lots of jaggies.
I
> told my friend maybe it's the monitor he is playing on, and he told me he

> didn't think so considering it was a $1800 monitor.....LOL! So even on
the
> best stuff it looks very outdated already.

I'm sorry, I just can't believe that. Just seeing in-game footage in the
commercials and on websites makes me think you're lying out of your ass.
The whole game is very bright and colorful, somewhat reminiscent of a
Gamecube game, perhaps? And I didn't see any jaggies, but the game wasn't
as textured as the Gamecube and Xbox games. Considering it's sort of a
cartoon-looking game, I kinda expected that.

>The Xbox on an ordinary TV had
> RICH color and smooth animations with no slowdown. What disappoints me
most
> is the lack of color and major slowdowns. Not to mention weak
resolutions.
> Peace!
>

Uh, that made very little sense to me. Either your grammar is horrible,
or...no, your grammar is horrible.

[Shadow]

"rdhwk21" <rdh...@yahoo.com> wrote in message
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> Because THEY like the games. maybe you dont like some of the games on
> the gamecube right now, but other people do. Its a matter of personal
> choice. For example, i HATE RPG's...hate them, cant stand them.
> Other people, thats all they play. Its just a choice.
>

At last, an intelligent person. Personally, I love RPGs (not all I play,
though). I hate FPS's. Just goes to show how taste varies per person, huh?

[sabotender]

Yeah right, lets see you say with a straight face there are people who
bought the gamecube, that AREN'T looking forward to the new Mario, Zelda,
Metroid, etc etc, and are happier with the games they have now.

Also, in my opinion, ANYONE that races out to the store to either preorder
a console or pick it up on its release day, is a 400% fanboy; either that
or they are the proud parent of some commercial hypnotized literal boy.

rdh...@yahoo.com (rdhwk21) wrote in
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[Shadow]

"sabotender" <s...@boten.der> wrote in message

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> Yeah right, lets see you say with a straight face there are people who
> bought the gamecube, that AREN'T looking forward to the new Mario, Zelda,
> Metroid, etc etc, and are happier with the games they have now.

Okay. There are people who bought the Gamecube who aren't looking forward
to the new games. They're called first-time console owners.

>
> Also, in my opinion, ANYONE that races out to the store to either preorder
> a console or pick it up on its release day, is a 400% fanboy; either that
> or they are the proud parent of some commercial hypnotized literal boy.
>

That's your opinion, and of course it means nothing. Fanboys are ones who
unconditionally love a console based on one game, or based on marketting.
Myself, I bought the Gamecube because there were several games I wanted,
plus the games that will be out next year. Just because there will be good
games out later doesn't mean you can't enjoy the games NOW.

[Dusto]

I, for one, CHOSE to buy Halo. And damn proud of it. Still playing it
almost two months after buying it.

Dusto

"Shadow" <ne...@marcus.com> wrote in message

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[Dusto]

"Skye" <carolina...@yahoo.com> wrote in message
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>

> "Shadow" <ne...@marcus.com> wrote in message

> news:EkWW7.16236$L17.370...@newssvr14.news.prodigy.com...

> >
> > "DaMan" <Da...@hotmail.com> wrote in message

> > news:orvn2u4lcj949lmhj...@4ax.com...
> > >
> >
> > [snip]
> >
> > Aaaaand...this is supposed to mean something? We're all supposed to
sell
> > off our Gamecubes and slave away under our Xboxes like good little
drones?
> > If I relied on a website to tell me what to play, I'd be a very sad
> > individual...something like you, I suppose.
> >
> >
>

> Actually the drones bought the Gamecube. Gamers bought Playstation 2s.
>
> Skye

Nintendo drones bought the GameCube. Playstation drones bought the PS2.

Conversation with someone 3 months before the PS2 launch:
"Why are you going to buy the PS2?"
"It's the Playstation TWO - It's got to be better than One."
"So what games are you going to buy with it?"
"I don't know."

Dusto

[Dusto]

Halo was #3. And GTA3 and Tony Hawk 3 are games that are going to be on the
Xbox next yeat.

Dusto

"DaMan" <Da...@hotmail.com> wrote in message
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> http://gamespot.com/gamespot/features/video/bestof_2001/p4_01.html
>
> Luigi's Mansion
>
>
>
> Best Shooter of the year:
>
> http://gamespot.com/gamespot/features/video/bestof_2001/p3_17.html
>
> Halo
>
>
> Even out of the top 10 games, SSB:M finished 10th, and it was also
> rated Gamecube's best game....
>
> http://gamespot.com/gamespot/features/video/bestof_2001/p6_01.html
>
> http://gamespot.com/gamespot/features/video/bestof_2001/p5_04.html
>
>

[Dusto]

What? Shooting eachother with assult rifles is not competing? ;o)

Dusto

"Shrek" <sh...@no.cfl.spam.rr.com> wrote in message
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> In article <Xns918587E4217C7...@206.10.149.45>, Gary Udstrand
<g...@completeis.com> wrote:

> >"D2³" <laug...@yoursorryass.com> wrote in

[nebula]

"Dusto" <dso...@bigfoot.com> wrote in message
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> I, for one, CHOSE to buy Halo. And damn proud of it. Still playing it
> almost two months after buying it.
>

I bet. It really is amazing. If there is ever a reason to buy an xbox,
that is it. however, i'm still playing waverace after almost 2 months after
buying it. popped in rogue leader today too..

--

-nebula-

"blame the canadian, slap the kicksen -- this is agvngc"

But yeah, hey don't be like me :o)

[Alex Mendes]

In article <Xns9185C80...@24.94.170.2>,
sabotender <s...@boten.der> wrote:

> Yeah right, lets see you say with a straight face there are people who
> bought the gamecube, that AREN'T looking forward to the new Mario, Zelda,
> Metroid, etc etc, and are happier with the games they have now.

I'm not looking forawrd to the new Zelda, since I only like the 2-d, top
down versions. I hate the fact that they're mangling Metroid by turning
it into an FPS, and I'm not at all interested in the new Mario, since I
don't know anything about it yet. OTOH, Luigi's Mansion, Pikmin, Rogue
Leader, and Wave Race are all well done, and Super Monkey Ball is just
about the only game I'm playing now besides FFX.

:-|

> Also, in my opinion, ANYONE that races out to the store to either preorder
> a console or pick it up on its release day, is a 400% fanboy; either that
> or they are the proud parent of some commercial hypnotized literal boy.

Or maybe they've found games that they want, and have the money to buy
them. It's amazing how many people can't grasp this simple concept
around here.

-Alex Mendes

[nebula]

"Dusto" <dso...@bigfoot.com> wrote in message

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> Halo was #3. And GTA3 and Tony Hawk 3 are games that are going to be on
the
> Xbox next yeat.
>

Tony hawk 3 is already on the gamecube
GTA3, by the time it comes out, will be just be a very fond memory...and
maybe a reminder to dust off a few old ps2 games to make a day go by for a
ps2 owner.
i mean, please, is there anything beyond ports for the xbox? besides
project ego that is.

[Shadow]

"Dusto" <dso...@bigfoot.com> wrote in message

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> I, for one, CHOSE to buy Halo. And damn proud of it. Still playing it
> almost two months after buying it.
>
> Dusto
>

Good for you. I'm still playing all my games except for XG3 (beat it twice,
so that's it for that game).

[Kevin C. Dorff]

"nebula" <ah...@argghh.com> wrote:
>"Dusto" <dso...@bigfoot.com> wrote in message
>news:jpbX7.3258$ag1.1...@eagle.america.net...
>> Halo was #3. And GTA3 and Tony Hawk 3 are games that are going to be on
>the
>> Xbox next yeat.
>
>Tony hawk 3 is already on the gamecube
>GTA3, by the time it comes out, will be just be a very fond memory...and
>maybe a reminder to dust off a few old ps2 games to make a day go by for a
>ps2 owner.
>i mean, please, is there anything beyond ports for the xbox? besides
>project ego that is.

Yes... Some really wonderful Xbox only games such as

* Halo
* Blood Wake
* Wreckless
* DOA3
* Project Gotham Racing
* Oddworld: Munch's Oddysey
* Jet Set Radio Future
* Malice
* Amped
* MANY others

[nebula]

> * Halo

Great game. Isn't it still coming to PC?

> * Blood Wake

This game looks good so far...let's hope it ends that way.

> * Wreckless

buh?

> * DOA3

.....pfffftttt! haha!

> * Project Gotham Racing

I haven't tried this so i can't say. from what i hear it's not bad.

> * Oddworld: Munch's Oddysey

While this game has good points, it has its weaknesses as well. It's not by
any means one of the better platform/adventure games i've played.

> * Jet Set Radio Future

Loved this on the Dreamcast...i hope they make some interesting changes. if
not i don't see any reason to get worked up about this.

> * Malice

Wasn't this canned on the xbox? I'm pretty sure i read this is going
multiplatform too.

> * Amped
> * MANY others

like?

[Gary Udstrand]

"Shadow" <ne...@marcus.com> wrote in
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> Which means people liked it. Your argument is rather flawed, you know
> that? And before you tell me "they all had no choice," there were more
> games out than just LM and RL, so people had plenty of choices. They
> CHOSE to buy Luigi's Mansion. Not so with the Xbox bundles and Halo.

Are you really that dumb? How is it that consumers did not have a
choice whether to buy the XBOX or not? Does it trouble you that there was
such a demand for the XBOX that some retaillers were able to restrict sales
to people who wanted bundles? Even so there were a ton of retaillers that
were selling the XBOX unbundled on launch day.

[Gary Udstrand]

"nebula" <ah...@argghh.com> wrote in
news:u2qico1...@corp.supernews.com:

>> I, for one, CHOSE to buy Halo. And damn proud of it. Still playing
>> it almost two months after buying it.
>>
>
> I bet. It really is amazing. If there is ever a reason to buy an
> xbox, that is it. however, i'm still playing waverace after almost 2
> months after buying it. popped in rogue leader today too..

Isn't that what this is all about? It is a great time to be a gamer.

[Gary Udstrand]

"Shadow" <ne...@marcus.com> wrote in
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> You do realize there were 15+ games out at the GC launch, right? Good.
> I think people had a good deal of choices, unlike the bundles
> Microsoft's pushing, which all have Halo in them.

Microsoft did not force the bundles, the retaillers did. Even so what
is the difference, apparently people wanted both the console and the games.
Why else would they have bought them? Grow up, the XBOX and its games have
been very successful, regardless of the spin you may try to put on it....

[Gary Udstrand]

"Gene Poole, G.D.I." <gene....@aol.com> wrote in
news:3C2CC174...@aol.com:

> ...for the first 2 hours. Then it makes you want to pound nails through
> your dick just for some excitement.

Different strokes for different folks. I personally can find nothing
exciting about pounding nails through my dick, but I do find Halo to be a
lot of fun. It is even better on Multi-Player and Coop, to bad you don't
have any friends....

[Gary Udstrand]

"Shadow" <ne...@marcus.com> wrote in news:2a5X7.17779$Kh4.3205999790
@newssvr21.news.prodigy.com:

> SMB, Waverace, Tony Hawk, etc. etc. Just because you think they're bad
> doesn't make them bad. Try repeating that till the stupidity goes away.

I have tried and tried yet you are still here.

[Gary Udstrand]

"Shadow" <ne...@marcus.com> wrote in
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> Maybe because the cube did have a bunch of games I wanted to play now?
> I don't know about everyone else, but I have five games I enjoy, hence
> why I got my cube.

I thought you bought it an attempt to impress all the little boys you
know. Will wonders never cease?

[Gene Poole, G.D.I.]

sabotender wrote:
>
> I love how everyone claims to love the crap launch games that came with
> their fanboy console. Xbox, PS2, GC...they all do it.
>

> I don't even claim to have liked SSX or Fantavision, or any of the other
> crap that launched with the PS2. Same goes for garbage like Halo, PGR, and
> all that Luigi business.

actually I tried SSX Tricky on the GC over Xmas. It's no 1080, but after
a while it sorta grew on me :) I liked Rogue Leader as well...fuck did I
ever :)

Monkey ball I never tried but it looks good, THPS3 was boring as fuck to
me, and Pikmin didn't interest me but looked good.

>
> > Maybe because the cube did have a bunch of games I wanted to play now?
> > I don't know about everyone else, but I have five games I enjoy, hence
> > why I got my cube.

--
Gene Poole ł

--Signature sold separately--

[Gene Poole, G.D.I.]

sabotender wrote:
>
> Yeah right, lets see you say with a straight face there are people who
> bought the gamecube, that AREN'T looking forward to the new Mario, Zelda,
> Metroid, etc etc, and are happier with the games they have now.
>
> Also, in my opinion, ANYONE that races out to the store to either preorder
> a console or pick it up on its release day, is a 400% fanboy; either that
> or they are the proud parent of some commercial hypnotized literal boy.

or maybe they're looking forward to future games as well, but like
current games enough to warrant a console purchase.

not everyone is poor like you.

>
> rdh...@yahoo.com (rdhwk21) wrote in
> news:fd4300dc.01122...@posting.google.com:
>
> > Because THEY like the games. maybe you dont like some of the games on
> > the gamecube right now, but other people do. Its a matter of personal
> > choice. For example, i HATE RPG's...hate them, cant stand them.
> > Other people, thats all they play. Its just a choice.
> >
> >> I don't understand
> >> why people run out and buy consoles that don't even have games they
> >> want to play yet.

[Shadow]

"Gary Udstrand" <g...@completeis.com> wrote in message
news:Xns9185F23939D4A...@206.10.149.45...

This was a rather stupid post. I'm talking about people chosing which game
to buy at launch, and you're berating me for saying people didn't have a
choice to buy an Xbox? Get a clue, then come back and talk.

[Gary Udstrand]

"nebula" <ah...@argghh.com> wrote in
news:u2qj57b...@corp.supernews.com:

> Tony hawk 3 is already on the gamecube
> GTA3, by the time it comes out, will be just be a very fond
> memory...and maybe a reminder to dust off a few old ps2 games to make a
> day go by for a ps2 owner.
> i mean, please, is there anything beyond ports for the xbox? besides
> project ego that is.

Lots, you just choose to disregard them. Besides, who cares if they
are ports? If you don't have a PS2 or a PC these games will be fresh and
new, and still just as fun.

[Gene Poole, G.D.I.]

"Kevin C. Dorff" wrote:
>
> "nebula" <ah...@argghh.com> wrote:
> >"Dusto" <dso...@bigfoot.com> wrote in message
> >news:jpbX7.3258$ag1.1...@eagle.america.net...
> >> Halo was #3. And GTA3 and Tony Hawk 3 are games that are going to be on
> >the
> >> Xbox next yeat.
> >
> >Tony hawk 3 is already on the gamecube
> >GTA3, by the time it comes out, will be just be a very fond memory...and
> >maybe a reminder to dust off a few old ps2 games to make a day go by for a
> >ps2 owner.
> >i mean, please, is there anything beyond ports for the xbox? besides
> >project ego that is.
>
> Yes... Some really wonderful Xbox only games such as
>
> * Halo
> * Blood Wake

tell me about this game, and what makes it exceptional.

> * Wreckless

ditto this.

> * DOA3

'she kicks high'. SSBM is a much more deep fighter. DOA3 just looks
good.

> * Project Gotham Racing

apparently this is good.

> * Oddworld: Munch's Oddysey

*shudders*

that is NOT a good game. As far as platformers go, it is shit. dull,
repetitive, and just....lacking in SO many ways.

again; Nintendo does it better, the only thing going for it is the
'mature' factor (and really, fart jokes are not mature)

> * Jet Set Radio Future

could be good

> * Malice

tell me about it, and what makes it so good.

> * Amped

why is it better than SSX?

> * MANY others

this is not a game.

[Gary Udstrand]

"Shadow" <ne...@marcus.com> wrote in
news:zQdX7.17098$Xz7.393...@newssvr14.news.prodigy.com:

> This was a rather stupid post. I'm talking about people chosing which
> game to buy at launch, and you're berating me for saying people didn't
> have a choice to buy an Xbox? Get a clue, then come back and talk.

Hey, here is a clue. The bundles that I saw let you choose your
games. Regardless, if people did not want the games they could have
purchased different bundles or an unbundled unit. Time for you to get a
clue. You see, you never even bought an XBOX so how would you know
anything? If you had you would know that there were and are all kinds of
options. With that said it is clear you are nothing more than a fanboy and
a troll, and not a very good one at that. Time for you to get the clue,
fanboy.

[Eric Kilian]

sabotender wrote:

> Yeah right, lets see you say with a straight face there are people who
> bought the gamecube, that AREN'T looking forward to the new Mario, Zelda,
> Metroid, etc etc, and are happier with the games they have now.
>
> Also, in my opinion, ANYONE that races out to the store to either preorder
> a console or pick it up on its release day, is a 400% fanboy; either that
> or they are the proud parent of some commercial hypnotized literal boy.

Though I'm one of Nintendo's biggest fans I'm not necessarily looking forward
to either the new Zelda or the new Metroid. First of all the new Link is just
about the ugliest video game character I have seen in my 23 years on this
planet. Nintendo really needs to redesign this character. Thus I'm not sure
what to expect from this new Zelda.

As far as Metroid, the guy behind the absolute brilliance of Super Metroid is
now dead, and the new Metroid is being developed by a bunch of no-names in the
console industry based in the US. That's not to say they won't make a good
Metroid game, but I have no precedence on which to base my expectations of
this Metroid game. Thus, it was not really a factor in my obtaining a
GameCube.

I'm sort of looking forward to the new Mario, but the video I saw didn't fill
me with awe. And that's probably the game I'm looking forward to most out of
the three.

However at the moment there are 6 games out for the GameCube that I am
interested in, and I now own all 6 of them. Good show on Nintendo's part
releasing these games. They are:

Luigi's Mansion-underrated game. This game rocks.

Wave Race: Blue Storm-best racing game I have ever played.

Pikmin-have not opened yet.

Super Monkey Ball-Monkey Fight has to be the absolute best multiplayer game
I've played in years-and the single player is fun and challenging

Super Smash Bros. Melee-Old-school enticing 2D platforming levels

Star Wars: Rogue Leader-have not opened yet

[Kevin C. Dorff]

Gary Udstrand <g...@completeis.com> wrote:
> Microsoft did not force the bundles, the retaillers did. Even so what
>is the difference, apparently people wanted both the console and the games.
>Why else would they have bought them? Grow up, the XBOX and its games have
>been very successful, regardless of the spin you may try to put on it....

The thing to note here (other than the fact I am an Xbox lover) is the
while MS didn't force the bundles, I believe I read that for the
vendor to sell the Xbox they had to buy a certain number of games for
every Xbox they bought, so SOME vendors decided to pass on the
inconvenience to the customer and force bundles. This should have been
no big deal to the big vendors (like Best Buy) but I heard it was
tough for the mom and pop stores, there was something like a minimum
$10,000 investment in hardware and software to be 'able' to sell the
Xbox. Sorry, I cannot site a source on this but I would guess a search
on mid-late November news would locate the article of which I speak.

Either way, I have my Xbox and 5 games and I couldn't be happier with
what I purchased. (Oddworld, Star Wars: Starfighter, Amped, SSX
Tricky, Halo).

[Shadow]

"Gary Udstrand" <g...@completeis.com> wrote in message

news:Xns9185F15795568...@206.10.149.45...

Oh no, I have been cut to the bone by your oh so witty remark, how will I
ever go on living? </sarcasm>

Either make an intelligent reply or don't bother. It seems you have a need
to have the last word in an argument, even if it's childish taunting.

[Shadow]

"Gary Udstrand" <g...@completeis.com> wrote in message

news:Xns9186165326630...@206.10.149.45...

> "Shadow" <ne...@marcus.com> wrote in
> news:zQdX7.17098$Xz7.393...@newssvr14.news.prodigy.com:
>
> > This was a rather stupid post. I'm talking about people chosing which
> > game to buy at launch, and you're berating me for saying people didn't
> > have a choice to buy an Xbox? Get a clue, then come back and talk.
>
> Hey, here is a clue. The bundles that I saw let you choose your
> games.

And the bundles I saw had Halo included in them. Stores must be selling
them differently. What a concept.

[snip old and overused Gary-troll remarks]

Calling people trolls because their posts show up in your preferred
newsgroup doesn't make you a very bright boy. I can just as easily call you
a troll for your oh so pure devotion to your precious Xbox.

[C. Bagginsł, CEO of agvngc]

"Gene Poole, G.D.I." <gene....@aol.com> skrev i en meddelelse
news:3C2CBA4F...@aol.com...
> sabotender wrote:
> >
> > Its too early to buy a cube, maybe when RE comes out. I don't

understand
> > why people run out and buy consoles that don't even have games they want
to
> > play yet.
>

> what if we really really like rogue leader and monkey ball?

then he won't believe us, the silly git.

--
C. Bagginsł - CEO of agvngc
GameCube and chese* passionate
---------- Question of the week ----------
How can you 0wn me when I'm not for sale?

[Shrek]

In article <Xns9185EF90828C3...@206.10.149.45>, Gary Udstrand <g...@completeis.com> wrote:
>"Shadow" <ne...@marcus.com> wrote in
>news:B75X7.17777$Ad4.320...@newssvr21.news.prodigy.com:
>
>> You do realize there were 15+ games out at the GC launch, right? Good.
>> I think people had a good deal of choices, unlike the bundles
>> Microsoft's pushing, which all have Halo in them.
>
> Microsoft did not force the bundles, the retaillers did. Even so what
>is the difference, apparently people wanted both the console and the games.
>Why else would they have bought them?

..and if a certain car model only comes with a cheap am/fm radio with no
CD-player does that mean that eveyone who buys the car wanted both the car and
the cheap radio? That's pretty much what you're saying.

>Grow up, the XBOX and its games have
>been very successful, regardless of the spin you may try to put on it....

Only a few Xbox games have been very successful...mostly due to forced
bundling.

[Craig Butler]

Apparently, people have different meanings of the word 'wonderful'.

"Kevin C. Dorff" <kdo...@nospam.mindless.com> wrote in message
news:hbkq2uc37d3pc2nv9...@4ax.com...

[nebula]

"Gary Udstrand" <g...@completeis.com> wrote in message

news:Xns9185F26AC6AB4...@206.10.149.45...

Actually it's not. Too many games i want to play, not enough time and money
for it all. I also need to balance a life in between.

[nebula]

"Gary Udstrand" <g...@completeis.com> wrote in message

news:Xns9185EFEE0264...@206.10.149.45...

No, but it's sad that there isn't much beyond halo. I'm still waiting for
something to get me to buy an xbox. haven't seen it.

[nebula]

"Gary Udstrand" <g...@completeis.com> wrote in message

news:Xns91863CB93B0A...@206.10.149.45...

But by the time it comes out, the PS2 just may have a price drop. Is it
worth spending it on an Xbox, when the PS2 can give the same thing? I don't
see how Onimusha and GTA3 will make anyone want to buy an xbox when the PS2
has it as well...along with another bunch of great games not found on the
xbox...and possibly at a cheaper price.

[Gary Udstrand]

Kevin C. Dorff <kdo...@nospam.mindless.com> wrote in

news:8r2r2u858og78b7ls...@4ax.com:

> The thing to note here (other than the fact I am an Xbox lover) is the
> while MS didn't force the bundles, I believe I read that for the
> vendor to sell the Xbox they had to buy a certain number of games for
> every Xbox they bought, so SOME vendors decided to pass on the
> inconvenience to the customer and force bundles. This should have been
> no big deal to the big vendors (like Best Buy) but I heard it was
> tough for the mom and pop stores, there was something like a minimum
> $10,000 investment in hardware and software to be 'able' to sell the
> Xbox

That would only prevent the smaller outlets from selling the XBOX and
games. Even so my point still stands, no one forced the consumer to buy
the XBOX and games, they *wanted* them. Regardless of what how they were
sold, bundled or unbundled, consumers made the decision to buy. NO ONE
FORCED THEM!

[Gary Udstrand]

"Shadow" <ne...@marcus.com> wrote in
news:J4gX7.17120$Gz.397...@newssvr14.news.prodigy.com:

I have no devotion to a game console, that is a concept of which I am
not familar. You see I have several consoles including the PS2 and the
XBOX and enjoy them all. The problem I have is fanboys such as yourself
presenting incorrect information and opinions as fact. You continue with
the same tirades when you know that they are half truths at best and
complete lies at times.

You yourself finally admit that the stores sold the XBOX in different
configurations (bundled and unbundeld). The really funny thing is that
youact like it is supposed to be some kind of revlation to me, when in fact
you are such an idiot that you did not realize that the last several of my
posts were pointing out that very fact. You are an idiot and a fanboy and
a troll, and just plain pathetic.

[Gary Udstrand]

"Craig Butler" <cbutl...@twcny.rr.com> wrote in news:8RkX7.47464
$Fu6.17...@typhoon.nyroc.rr.com:

> Apparently, people have different meanings of the word 'wonderful'.

What a concept. Most of the fucktard trolls in here have a very
difficult time with such a thing. Just becuase you may not like something
does not mean that someone else cannot enjoy it.

[Gary Udstrand]

sh...@no.cfl.spam.rr.com (Shrek) wrote in
news:FPkX7.212623$oj3.36...@typhoon.tampabay.rr.com:

> ..and if a certain car model only comes with a cheap am/fm radio with
> no CD-player does that mean that eveyone who buys the car wanted both
> the car and the cheap radio? That's pretty much what you're saying.

What is with you idiots? How many times can it be said "THE XBOX WAS
AVAILABLE BOTH BUNDLED AND UNBUNDLED FROM THE VERY START". Regardless,
your analogy is complete crap. A car is primarily used for transportation
and is useful with or without a radio, a game console needs games to be of
any value. What I am saying is this, why buy the console if you had no
desire for the games??

Man, some of you really need to get out once and awhile.

[Kevin C. Dorff]

Gary Udstrand <g...@completeis.com> wrote:

I agree, no one forced them, I was just sharing how some shop owners
might get into the mindset where bundles seemed like a good idea (for
the store).

[Daniel Kolle]

"Dusto" <dso...@bigfoot.com> wrote in message news:<jpbX7.3258$ag1.1...@eagle.america.net>...
> Halo was #3. And GTA3 and Tony Hawk 3 are games that are going to be on the
> Xbox next yeat.
>

Ah...
Shovelware, do you not love it, X-BoXers?!

> Dusto
>
> "DaMan" <Da...@hotmail.com> wrote in message
> news:orvn2u4lcj949lmhj...@4ax.com...
> > http://gamespot.com/gamespot/features/video/bestof_2001/p4_01.html
> >
> > Luigi's Mansion
> >
> >
> >
> > Best Shooter of the year:
> >
> > http://gamespot.com/gamespot/features/video/bestof_2001/p3_17.html
> >
> > Halo
> >
> >
> > Even out of the top 10 games, SSB:M finished 10th, and it was also
> > rated Gamecube's best game....
> >
> > http://gamespot.com/gamespot/features/video/bestof_2001/p6_01.html
> >
> > http://gamespot.com/gamespot/features/video/bestof_2001/p5_04.html
> >
> >

[Gene Poole, G.D.I.]

define 'troll', please, and explain how it applies to a crosspost.

[Shrek]

And an XBox is used primarily for playing DVD's and listening to Neil Diamond
CD's. The XBox actually becomes less enjoyable when you put a game in it.