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The Burned Fur Spokesperson

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May 7, 2003, 2:50:56 PM5/7/03
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The New Manifesto of the Bürned Furs:

The re-founded bürned furs will be concerned with discussion,
dissemination and practical transformation of the furry fandom in
relation to:

1. The struggle for the socialist state

2. Socialist realist art, and its application in furry fandom and
informing artists of the Offical Bürned Fur Line on what forms and
depictions of the great class struggle are acceptable.

3. The Great Mineral water con.
ITS JUST TAP WATER WITH A SPECIAL LABEL!!!!!

4. Enacting Executive orders by all convention managements will
henceforth only allowed furry art sold at their conventions to have
it's value and sale value judged by a special formula which is as
followed:

Number of years spent to get to current level of skill +
The amount of hours spent doing that piece +
The value of the matriels that went into makeing it. +
= The Value of the Artwork in question in Euros.

This will ensure fair priceing and not allow artists to get inflated
prices based simply on their name or artifical and arbitrary
constructs, such as "market based economics" which take no account of
the externalities or true social justice in the true proleterian
sense.

5.Attacking superstition and irrationality wherever it is found.

6.Conducting smear campaigns against people involved in the furry
fandom who are perceived to be rightist and/or reactionaries.

7. Mercilessly and publicly mocking furry artwork or stories, which
show a lack of proper political awareness or understanding.

8.Unifying the fragmented political left wing parties of the world
through the power of smouldering Cheetah Temptresses.

9. The fact that most so called "furry artists" are simply nothing
more than churners out of porn. It's not that we object to the porn,
It's just that we all need to be honest.
Henceforth all such artists will be known as "Porn Drawers". If they
are particularly skilled they will be entitled to be called "Extra
Special Porn drawers", except for Brian O'Connell, who will be called
"These mints are really bicarbonate of soda in disguise"

All people who support this manifesto may join a special Mailing list
made just for the purpose of disseminateing the bürned furs manifesto
and ideas.

It is located at:

http://groups.yahoo.com/group/burnedfurs/

Thankyou

- The Bürned Furs

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Join The New Improved Burned Furs:

http://groups.yahoo.com/group/burnedfurs/

BR

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May 7, 2003, 9:57:10 AM5/7/03
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On Wed, 07 May 2003 18:50:56 +0000, The Burned Fur Spokesperson wrote:

> 81.131.135.38

Whois.

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Chris Beilby

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May 7, 2003, 3:29:42 PM5/7/03
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"BR" <brodr...@comcast.MUNGED.net> wrote in message
news:pan.2003.05.07....@comcast.MUNGED.net...

> On Wed, 07 May 2003 18:50:56 +0000, The Burned Fur Spokesperson wrote:
>
> > 81.131.135.38
>
> Whois.

A tracert runs it to a server in Bletchley, England before dropping out.
I'd be willing to bet that it's Davey-boy again.

Ben Raccoon

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May 7, 2003, 3:42:04 PM5/7/03
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Chris Beilby wrote in news:G8dua.35419$g41.3...@news1.east.cox.net:

> A tracert runs it to a server in Bletchley, England before dropping out.
> I'd be willing to bet that it's Davey-boy again.

Well, it's the same netblock, and same behavior.

--
Ben Raccoon
http://www.secretmoon.org/~ben

Chris Beilby

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May 7, 2003, 3:45:37 PM5/7/03
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> Well, it's the same netblock, and same behavior.

Exactly my reasoning.


Disciples Of The Astrolabe

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May 7, 2003, 3:53:06 PM5/7/03
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BR <brodr...@comcast.MUNGED.net> shall never vanquished be until
great Birnam wood to high alt.fan.furry. hill shall come against him.

>On Wed, 07 May 2003 18:50:56 +0000, The Burned Fur Spokesperson wrote:
>
>> 81.131.135.38
>
>Whois.

The U with the umlauts has come out as "=?iso-8859-1?q?B=FCrned?=" in
my newsreader.
That is very strange. I belive it has something to do with control
charecters or something like that.

---
Charles Melville Demonstrates his affection for me:

> Yeah, actually he -is- a troll. He's quite active over on AFF, throwing out
>pretentious one- and two-liners for no good reason except for attention. He
>doesn't even seriously take a stance, but likes to stir things up. I killfiled him
>awhile ago, but he also likes to play nametag-roulette to make it difficult to keep
>his posts deleted.

Rich Chandeler Comments on my posts:

>You're not quite a troll, but certainly worthy of being ignored. I'm sorry I
>actually replied to one of yours before I saw what was going on.

Your Comments here? Just Type on the Dotted Line:

.................................................................................

Disciples Of The Astrolabe

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May 7, 2003, 3:56:01 PM5/7/03
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Ben Raccoon <ben_racco...@hotmail.com> shall never vanquished be

until great Birnam wood to high alt.fan.furry. hill shall come against
him.

>Chris Beilby wrote in news:G8dua.35419$g41.3...@news1.east.cox.net:


>
>> A tracert runs it to a server in Bletchley, England before dropping out.
>> I'd be willing to bet that it's Davey-boy again.
>
>Well, it's the same netblock, and same behavior.

I resent that comment.
this is an altruistic thing, motivated soley by affection for the
furry fandom and the people therein.

I call you out sir. I call you out.

---
Charles Melville Demonstrates his affection for me:

> Yeah, actually he -is- a troll. He's quite active over on AFF, throwing out
>pretentious one- and two-liners for no good reason except for attention. He
>doesn't even seriously take a stance, but likes to stir things up. I killfiled him
>awhile ago, but he also likes to play nametag-roulette to make it difficult to keep
>his posts deleted.

Rich Chandeler Comments on my posts:

>You're not quite a troll, but certainly worthy of being ignored. I'm sorry I
>actually replied to one of yours before I saw what was going on.

Your Comments here? Just Type on the Dotted Line:

.................................................................................

Join The New Improved Burned Furs:

http://groups.yahoo.com/group/burnedfurs/

M. Mitchell Marmel

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May 7, 2003, 4:12:54 PM5/7/03
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In article <3eb9551a...@news.cis.dfn.de>,

burne...@yahoogroups.com (The Burned Fur Spokesperson) wrote:

> The New Manifesto of the Bürned Furs:

(snip)

o_O

News to me. I smell troll.

> http://groups.yahoo.com/group/burnedfurs/

Don't think I'll bother, really.

-MMM-

Felyne32k

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May 7, 2003, 4:28:12 PM5/7/03
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In article <3eb9551a...@news.cis.dfn.de>,
burne...@yahoogroups.com says...

> The New Manifesto of the Bürned Furs:
>
Borrowing a tradition from rec.games.frp.dnd,


Hi, Dave!
--
-Felyne32k, supposed "English Major"

Ostrich

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May 7, 2003, 6:54:47 PM5/7/03
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burne...@yahoogroups.com (The Burned Fur Spokesperson) wrote in message news:<3eb9551a...@news.cis.dfn.de>...

> The New Manifesto of the Bürned Furs:
>
> 8.Unifying the fragmented political left wing parties of the world
> through the power of smouldering Cheetah Temptresses.
>

I like smouldering Cheetah Temptresses...

-Ostrich! <")

Lazarian

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May 7, 2003, 7:46:06 PM5/7/03
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On 7 May 2003 15:54:47 -0700, ost...@raex.com (Ostrich) wrote:

>I like smouldering Cheetah Temptresses...
>
>-Ostrich! <")

As it so happens, so do I. :)

Lazarian


Timmy Ramone

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May 7, 2003, 10:31:51 PM5/7/03
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Disciples Of The Astrolabe wrote:
>
> Rich Chandeler Comments on my posts:
>
> >[blah, blah, blah...]

I thought Chandler was one of those who "left" furry fandom, never
to darken its door again?

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Dr. Cat

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May 8, 2003, 12:52:19 AM5/8/03
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Disciples Of The Astrolabe <eisens...@eudoramail.com> wrote:
: The U with the umlauts has come out as "=?iso-8859-1?q?B=FCrned?=" in

: my newsreader.
: That is very strange. I belive it has something to do with control
: charecters or something like that.

Actually he was just getting his funny furrin langwidges for dudes what
don't always speak ingliz mixed up with each other. Which any native
ingliz speaker should be not only forgiven for but expected to do.

He didn't really mean to put burned fur with an umlaut over the u.
He meant to say "bjorned furs", and he was talking about this new
movement in the furry fandom that's for pissed off vikings.

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Terry Knight

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May 8, 2003, 2:25:58 AM5/8/03
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"Ostrich" <ost...@raex.com> wrote in message
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I find Cheetah Temptresses so much better once the smoke clears and the
flames are properly extinguished.
Haven't people heard of smoke-free areas? :)

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David

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May 8, 2003, 5:08:57 AM5/8/03
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Timmy Ramone <R...@M0NES.4.ever> shall never vanquished be until great

Birnam wood to high alt.fan.furry. hill shall come against him.

>Disciples Of The Astrolabe wrote:


>>
>> Rich Chandeler Comments on my posts:
>>
>> >[blah, blah, blah...]
>
>I thought Chandler was one of those who "left" furry fandom, never
>to darken its door again?

No. He Still reads Fur.artwork.erotica

(so do lots of other people who claim "not to be furries" or to have
"left the fandom" :o)

Charles Melville for one. He made a big post on Fur.Artwork.erotica to
inform us all that while he "did all the furry things", he wasn't
acutally a furry fan, Or anything like that.

There is a very telling moral here.

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A misty path through woods long past
enshrined in silence and runes
will keep the secrets of Dol Guldur

Michael Campbell

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May 8, 2003, 12:25:53 PM5/8/03
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burne...@yahoogroups.com (The Burned Fur Spokesperson) wrote in
news:3eb9551a...@news.cis.dfn.de:

> The New Manifesto of the Bürned Furs:

Somehow, I don't think so...

--
Michael E Campbell (mecam...@YouknowtheDrillcharter.net )
"We are the kids known as whimper and whine/ wondering why we're alone all
the time..."

Barry Gold

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May 8, 2003, 1:27:54 PM5/8/03
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The Burned Fur Spokesperson <burne...@yahoogroups.com> wrote:
>The New Manifesto of the Bürned Furs:

Ya know, it's hard to pronounce that without whistling, unless you're
a native speaker of HochDeutsch.

>The re-founded bürned furs will be concerned with discussion,
>dissemination and practical transformation of the furry fandom in
>relation to:
>
>1. The struggle for the socialist state

Hey, we straggle in early or late for furry cons.

>2. Socialist realist art, and its application in furry fandom and
>informing artists of the Offical Bürned Fur Line on what forms and
>depictions of the great class struggle are acceptable.

Realist. Furry. Same sentence...

>3. The Great Mineral water con.
>ITS JUST TAP WATER WITH A SPECIAL LABEL!!!!!

Well, what kind of sound does water make when you tap it?

>4. Enacting Executive orders by all convention managements will
>henceforth only allowed furry art sold at their conventions to have
>it's value and sale value judged by a special formula which is as
>followed:

Wouldn't it be easier to just buy Gerber's?

>5.Attacking superstition and irrationality wherever it is found.

A laudable goal. It's bad luck to be superstitious.

>6.Conducting smear campaigns against people involved in the furry
>fandom who are perceived to be rightist and/or reactionaries.

Well, there's certainly enough paint...

>7. Mercilessly and publicly mocking furry artwork or stories, which
>show a lack of proper political awareness or understanding.

And the rest of it, too.

>8.Unifying the fragmented political left wing parties of the world
>through the power of smouldering Cheetah Temptresses.

Ooh, la, la! Now that's a good idea.

>9. The fact that most so called "furry artists" are simply nothing
>more than churners out of porn. It's not that we object to the porn,
>It's just that we all need to be honest.
>Henceforth all such artists will be known as "Porn Drawers".

Which desk is that drawer in?

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liberty and justice for all.

Emi Melissa Briet

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May 8, 2003, 3:28:38 PM5/8/03
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In article <3eb9551a...@news.cis.dfn.de>, burne...@yahoogroups.com

(The Burned Fur Spokesperson) wrote:

> The New Manifesto of the Bürned Furs:

I was a burned fur. I've known others who were in burned furs. You, with
that manifesto, are NOT a burned fur.

--
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Barry Gold

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May 8, 2003, 6:45:43 PM5/8/03
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In article <emi-080503...@rrcs-central-24-123-116-102.biz.rr.com>,

Emi Melissa Briet <e...@emiofbrie.com> wrote:
>In article <3eb9551a...@news.cis.dfn.de>, burne...@yahoogroups.com
>(The Burned Fur Spokesperson) wrote:
>
>> The New Manifesto of the Bürned Furs:
>
>I was a burned fur. I've known others who were in burned furs. You, with
>that manifesto, are NOT a burned fur.

No. He's being silly. Some of us do that from time to time.

Baloo Ursidae

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May 9, 2003, 5:58:04 AM5/9/03
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The Wed, 07 May 2003 19:29:42 GMT, Chris Beilby <christop...@cox.net> wrote:
> A tracert runs it to a server in Bletchley, England before dropping out.
> I'd be willing to bet that it's Davey-boy again.

A traceroute will not tell you who owns the IP, nor is it a reliable
method to get a ballpark figure. After all, some router between here
and there could be down and you'd be getting a false idea of the
ownership.

If you want to actually know who has an IP, use whois.

- --
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Baloo Ursidae

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May 9, 2003, 6:05:51 AM5/9/03
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The Thu, 08 May 2003 19:28:38 GMT, Emi Melissa Briet <e...@emiofbrie.com> wrote:
> I was a burned fur. I've known others who were in burned furs. You, with
> that manifesto, are NOT a burned fur.

Oh, great. Now the wingnuts are mingling with the trolls. This is
gonna get ugly.

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Harry

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May 10, 2003, 12:08:58 PM5/10/03
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Well well well, just looky this:

>The New Manifesto of the Bürned Furs:

Ain't that cute, he's got an umlaute (sp?) stuck in there. How appropriate.

>1. The struggle for the socialist state

It's been done. To death -- you lost.

>2. Socialist realist art,

A Diego Rivera revival, right?

<rip>

>5.Attacking superstition and irrationality wherever it is found.

Read: religion.

>6.Conducting smear campaigns against people involved in the furry
>fandom who are perceived to be rightist and/or reactionaries.

It's been done. Didn't work very well. The attorney fees were hideous.

<tear>


>It is located at:
>
>http://groups.yahoo.com/group/burnedout/

>Thankyou

You're welcome.

Also, it's "Thank you.", with a space between the two words and a period at the
end.

You're welcome for that as well.

>- The Bürned Furs

Riiiiighhht.

Hi Dave. Bye Dave.

And bye to everyone else from,
Harry,
who knows why it's called "Yahoo".

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