What cd re-masters critical(?)?
Bob
later. For all artists, of course, not just FZ.
I have all FZ releases on vinyl until the advent of cd, then replaced them all
on cd along with any newer releases as they became available.
My question is what cds were improved enough to warrant replacement by the 1995
re-masters? The only one I have replaced so far is WOIIFTM / LG.
What really sparked this question was the mention in the "Alien Orifice" thread
about the re-masters of the YCDTOSA series. I purchased all of the original
issues (with V5&6 in the garish purple box) and now find out they've been
spiffed up!?!
I'm sure this has been discussed in detail before, but I've only begun reading
this group in the last six months or so.
tia,
Bob
Old Masters box one # 106 for the fella who was counting a while back.
tonyw...@hotmail.com
> It irks me to buy stuff early only to have it re-issued in a spiffed up
> version later.
If you're the kind of person who has to upgrade your computer every year so
it can do the same stuff it did last year because this year's software is
slower even though you don't do anything now that you didn't do last year,
then you'll need to buy the remasters.
If not, then you won't.
David Goodwin
It really depends how much you care about such things. IMO, the
best-sounding upgrades (in no particular order) are:
Freak Out!
Ruben
Apostrophe gold
OSFA gold
SLeep Dirt
YAWYI '98
Tinseltown '98
SUAPYG
Other than that, it's mostly a little bit here, a little bit there.
-D
Bossk (R)
> My question is what cds were improved
> enough to warrant replacement by the 1995
> re-masters?
From the vinyl-vs-CDs FAQ at
http://zappapatio.unixlover.com/~u85821131/vinylvscds/faq.html
- question six:
Q: I Have All the Old CDs. What Are the Most and
Least Important New CDs to Get?
A: MOST important:
- We're Only In It for the Money - the new CD is the vinyl
(1960s) version, not the 1980s version that was on the old CD;
- The London Symphony Orchestra - completely remixed, and
with four tracks that haven't been on CD before, only on Volume
2 of the vinyl version;
- Frank Zappa Meets the Mothers of Prevention - if your copy
doesn't have both "Porn Wars" and "HR 2911", the new CD has
both;
- Does Humor Belong in Music? - completely remixed;
- Lumpy Gravy - improved sound quality only;
- Shut Up & Play Yer Guitar - improved sound quality only.
- You Are What You Is - if you don't have the EMI CD of this one,
which is good, there's a 1998 remaster out now which is also good
(all other CD versions sound junky). The same is true also for
Tinsel-Town Rebellion.
No other new CDs are as different from the old CDs as those six, but
almost all of them are remastered. The only ones that were not
remastered are (LEAST important):
- You Can't Do That on Stage Anymore Volume 5
- You Can't Do That on Stage Anymore Volume 6
- Playground Psychotics
- Ahead of Their Time
- The Yellow Shark
Those were made from the exact same masters as the old CDs, so they
sound exactly the same. The only difference is that they have new and
more accurate timing information on them, very minor differences in
cover/booklet artwork and possibly some liner-note corrections.
Also, Sheik Yerbouti, Tinsel-Town Rebellion and You Are What You Is
used to be counted among the least important, since they had
sound-quality problems. Now there are new 1998 remasters out of
You Are What You Is and Tinsel-Town Rebellion, and they sound
very good, so only Sheik Yerbouti is still a least-important. In fact,
if your old CDs do not say EMI on it (the only good CD versions of
these albums before the 1998 remasters were European 1980s EMI),
the 1998 remasters of You Are What You Is and Tinsel-Town
Rebellion are rather among the most important!
As for all the other albums, which are at least remastered, you can read
more details in this re-release FAQ from Ryko, and of course on the
individual pages for each album, which you can reach from the main page.
Bossk (R) <bossk-...@telia.com>
THE ZAPPA PATIO: http://zappapatio.unixlover.com
JWB
> It irks me to buy stuff early only to have it re-issued in a spiffed up version
> later. For all artists, of course, not just FZ.
> I have all FZ releases on vinyl until the advent of cd, then replaced them all
> on cd along with any newer releases as they became available.
> My question is what cds were improved enough to warrant replacement by the 1995
> re-masters? The only one I have replaced so far is WOIIFTM / LG.
> What really sparked this question was the mention in the "Alien Orifice" thread
> about the re-masters of the YCDTOSA series. I purchased all of the original
> issues (with V5&6 in the garish purple box) and now find out they've been
> spiffed up!?!
No way, the YCDTOSA discs are the same as they've always been.
The following discs were secretly replaced with brand new re-masters circa 1998:
Apostrophe
One Size Fits All
You Are What You Is
Tinseltown Rebellion
They are all MASSIVELY improved...probably the best-sounding discs in the catalog now.
The only way to tell the difference from a crappy '95 disc and a '98 re-master is to look at the
matrix number on the inner ring of the CD itself....the re-masters begin with "DADR".
- JWB
David Goodwin
wrote:
>No way, the YCDTOSA discs are the same as they've always been.
Not quite. I find that my '95 version of Vol. 2 sounds quite a bit
better than the old one.
>
>
>The following discs were secretly replaced with brand new re-masters circa 1998:
>
>Apostrophe
>One Size Fits All
>You Are What You Is
>Tinseltown Rebellion
>
>They are all MASSIVELY improved...probably the best-sounding discs in the catalog now.
Although all indications seem to point to the swap for Apos and OSFA
being reversed.
-D
Bob
couple of the recommendations.
Bob
....hmmmm.... but no one responds in the Dirty Three thread.... people are
missing out on some wonderful music there....