SDMB-CLUB OUTS RESPECTED EX - MODERATOR
Johnsbury1
the mindset on that board.
Trust me, they will change their minds on this one.
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Melin has been banned from the Straight Dope Message Board because I'm fed up
with her nonsense. As regular users of this board know, Melin has been engaged
in a long-running series of disputes with the Straight Dope moderators and
administrators, mostly over trivial matters. Several weeks ago, however, she
threatened to involve this board in a lawsuit over an allegedly defamatory
remark posted by someone not associated with us on a Usenet newsgroup. Her
rationale for dragging us into this dispute was without factual basis and she
later backed off. However, I felt it was only a matter of time before she made
good on such a threat and put the SDMB out of business. The Straight Dope
website operates at a loss and the expense of defending against a nuisance
lawsuit would make it impossible to continue. I felt continued contact with
Melin was asking for trouble and wanted to ban her immediately. However, it was
decided that the SDMB rules did not make it sufficiently clear that we had the
right to exclude users for any or no reason. Having modified the rules, we
warned Melin not to continue making life difficult for us. She persisted in
provoking us with various two-bit irritants I won't bother to describe and
seems determined to get herself kicked off the board. Having put up with this
crap for six months I am happy to oblige.
JOHN
Asterbark
Except she really did threaten to sue both myself and administration of the
Straight Dope website for something I wrote (by myself) and have already
apologized for. She promised me it was over, but if she's still hassling TSDMB,
Ed Zotti, or anyone over fluff she can't handle without getting legal schmegal,
I don't see why anyone should be bothered by Ed's decision. If she likes her
adoring friends enough, she wouldn't keep needling to get her way at the risk
of shutting down the board altogether.
Aster
Bob Ward
>This is from the person who runs the SDMB board, Ed Zotti. It really speaks to
>the mindset on that board.
John, what part of a private forum do you have a problem grasping?
You have no right to access to the forum - if you choose not to play
by their rules, you can and will be excluded from the playground.
And, for that matter, why do you imagine that anyone here cares that
you are not welcome there either?
Jeff
>
>Except she really did threaten to sue both myself and administration of the
>Straight Dope website for something I wrote (by myself) and have already
>apologized for.
So what exactly was it you wrote that pissed her off so bad?
Lynn Bodoni
RE: thread title.
I don't think that Ed or any of the other Straight Dope staff said or even
implied that Melin is lesbian.
Lynn
Johnsbury1
>johns...@aol.com (Johnsbury1) wrote:
>
>
>
>
>>
>>This is from the person who runs the SDMB board, Ed Zotti. It really speaks
>>to
>>the mindset on that board.
>>
>Straight Dope website for something I wrote (by myself) and have already
>TSDMB,
>Ed Zotti, or anyone over fluff she can't handle without getting legal
>schmegal,
>I don't see why anyone should be bothered by Ed's decision. If she likes her
>adoring friends enough, she wouldn't keep needling to get her way at the risk
>of shutting down the board altogether.
>
>
>
>
>Aster
>
I'm not sure I disagree with you, Aster. I don't know the facts but just posted
this to illustrate the narrownes of the SDMB.
I did not know it involved you.
JOHN
Johnsbury1
>>Straight Dope website for something I wrote (by myself) and have already
>>apologized for.
>
>
>
You're safe here. What was it, I would like to know also?
JOHN
Johnsbury1
>On 20 Mar 2000 12:55:42 GMT, johns...@aol.com (Johnsbury1) wrote:
>
>>This is from the person who runs the SDMB board, Ed Zotti. It really speaks
>to
>>the mindset on that board.
>
>You have no right to access to the forum - if you choose not to play
>by their rules, you can and will be excluded from the playground.
>
>And, for that matter, why do you imagine that anyone here cares that
>you are not welcome there either?
>
>
Bob, the part you continually fail to comprehend is that it is a board that is
supposedly trying to stamp out ignorance, what a joke, and seek the truth, Ba
loneee!, and all it does is treat people unfairly. More amazingly, they are on
the internet and act like they are a private club in a school. Not smart and
very unfair.
JOHN
Johnsbury1
>>From: johns...@aol.com (Johnsbury1)
>
>RE: thread title.
>
>I don't think that Ed or any of the other Straight Dope staff said or even
>implied that Melin is lesbian.
>
>Lynn
>
Only your mind would make that assumption.
In all fairness, lynn has a small point, I should have, and meant to, write
OUSTS
JOHN
Amy Elizabeth Gleason
Johnsbury1 wrote:
> Bob wrote:
> >If you are so crushed by this, go start your OWN private club.
Just
> >quit whining about it here - we REALLY DON'T FUCKING CARE!
> >
>
> We? Whom do you speak for and why so adamant? Testy little devil. :)
Well, I agree with Bob, and therefore allow him to speak for me when
he says, "We really don't fucking care," and since there are two of
us, that makes a proper we, so go away.
> I don't care about joining that club any longer, I don't like the
members,
> most, anyway, and the biased people who run it.
Then why do you keep harping on it? It is second only to your
obsession with Hi!!@ry C!int0n.
> bob, if you really don't care, i don't believe you, then stop
responding. makes
> sense.
John, if you really have brain, i don't believe you, then learn
English makes sense.
L & k,
Amy - my fuse grows rapidly shorter
Bob Ward
What you STILL don't understand is that, in a PRIVATE CLUB, they have
a right to allow in or exclude anyone they wish to. The fact that
they are on the Internet has nothing to do with it. Bank of America
is on the Internet as well - that doesn't give you access to my
private account.
Johnsbury1
We? Whom do you speak for and why so adamant? Testy little devil. :)
I don't care about joining that club any longer, I don't like the members,
most, anyway, and the biased people who run it.
bob, if you really don't care, i don't believe you, then stop responding. makes
sense.
JOHN
Johnsbury1
draconian for the New Age Internet.
[[[[I find it more likely that the REAL and PRIMARY reason for the banishment
is the criticism (consistanly) leveled by Melin. I can tell each of you from
experience that criticizing this board is the single worst thing that you can
do in the eyes of the admins. It just won't be tolerated as has once again be
demonstrated...]]]]
JOHN
Eric Dahlgren
>members,
>> most, anyway, and the biased people who run it.
>
>obsession with Hi!!@ry C!int0n.
>
>responding. makes
>> sense.
>
>English makes sense.
>
>L & k,
>Amy - my fuse grows rapidly shorter
::::Beer shooting out the nose::
Ditto.
Eric
"Where there is a will..there is probably a dead body close by."
Jake Schmidt
news:20000320075542...@ng-cm1.aol.com...
> This is from the person who runs the SDMB board, Ed Zotti. It really
speaks to
> the mindset on that board.
>
<snip a bunch of crap>
Who fvcking cares? I can't believe that I'm the only person that is sick of
all this SDMB crap--leave it at the SDMB...
> JOHN
--
Jake Schmidt
Remove a "d" to reply...
Johnsbury1
They are quoting THIS board over there so this is just fair turn around, plus,
there are some people here who would like to know.
JOHN
Asterbark
Naw, really just Alan when he's feeling out of the loop, and then he can just
go and read it for himself. I don't suppose you won't not answer this, JOHN,
but you're not under any obligation.
"Good to know."
JOHN
Aster
Johnsbury1
might feel funny about the details.
Alan is a very honorable person and will form his own opinion of this matter.
Since many of those posters are here it is of some significance.
JOHN
Asterbark
>>
>I now see that YOU were a major player in her ouster. I can understand that
>you
>might feel funny about the details.
I had nothing to do with getting her ousted, and the SDMB had nothing to do
with what I wrote.
>
>Alan is a very honorable person and will form his own opinion of this matter.
>Since many of those posters are here it is of some significance.
You over-estimate by scads. The people who post there can give a crap at the
web board. You're boring everyone else, and so am I now.
Aster
AlanKngsly
I doubt I'm the *only* one. As for looking it up myself, that's quite
impossible without a mouse. But even if I could, I'm admittedly lazy (remember
the drive-thru thread?) -- I'd rather read it on an easily navigable ng rather
than try to plow through that web monstrosity.
Alan
Asterbark
>
>It's true that I find it interesting to be kept up to speed on the gossip,
>but
>I doubt I'm the *only* one.
I would assume I'd be e-mailed by now if that were the case. Ask Mentock if
gossip isn't off-topic here, but I think if it's juicy enough, people would
respond and not plonk the hell out of this turd, "John."
As for looking it up myself, that's quite
>impossible without a mouse. But even if I could, I'm admittedly lazy
I thought one of the (few) virtues of hailing from the AOL SDMB was that we did
our own research before we asked a question, and "What happened next, huh?"
wasn't a valid response befitting a reg if the answer was especially easy to
find without getting up, even. No wonder you were pantsed a lot. I'm sorry
about your mouse; maybe you should be more careful with things that are easy to
break, and that you aren't willing to buck up and replace.
>(remember
>the drive-thru thread?) -- I'd rather read it on an easily navigable ng
>rather
>than try to plow through that web monstrosity.
BBQ Pit, 3 threads
MPSIMS, 1 thread
(that's 4 threads, with posts listed in columns instead of separately--added
bonus for the lazy slob in all of us).
TM Homepage, 3 threads.
I don't know how to do everything without a mouse, but supposedly it can be
done. I almost accidentally logged off by hitting some combination yesterday,
even. Take some time, and learn how to play. It's a valuable skill, and you yet
may be too lazy. Good luck.
Aster
Barbara
>but I doubt I'm the *only* one.
Well, there isn't a lot of crossover between this ng and the "official" TSD
site, so it's off topic for this group.
As for looking it up myself, that's quite
>impossible without a mouse.
Oh sheesh --- I know you're a starving idealist, but dish out 5 bucks for a
cheap mouse already.
But even if I could, I'm admittedly lazy
>(remember
>the drive-thru thread?) -- I'd rather read it on an easily navigable ng
>rather
>than try to plow through that web monstrosity.
Which doesn't change the fact that this conversation belongs on the web
monstrosity and is off-topic here.
Lastly, I have trouble believing that even you could read the crap that John's
been spewing in this group and (despite the total lack of content and the
annoying quoting style) still think that he is a worthwhile contributor that's
being unfairly persecuted.
Barbara -
"No one with half a brain thinks homosexuals want to "convert" straight people,
destroy the family and traditional marriage, etc."-------Cecil Adams
RM Mentock
>
> alank...@aol.com (AlanKngsly) wrote:
>
> >
> >It's true that I find it interesting to be kept up to speed on the gossip,
> >but
> >I doubt I'm the *only* one.
>
> gossip isn't off-topic here, but I think if it's juicy enough, people would
> respond and not plonk the hell out of this turd, "John."
I suppose that refers to my tendency to claim that nothing
is off-topic here. Well, that's true, I think. Even
boring, biased or fallacious, tendentious, political
arm-waving--but no one scores any points for that either.
Same with homework questions, dictionary definitions,
web searches that could have easily been done yourself, and
questions that would otherwise seem to be common sense.
But <groveling> I have an easy question for you. I actually
read the mfsd exchange between you and Melin as it unfolded.
I remember the references to litigation cropped up along the
way, but I cannot now find the exact posts. Would you be
able to help? Thanks.
--
RM Mentock
I'm up to my ears in music
http://sentient.home.mindspring.com/dan/
Asterbark
>Asterbark wrote:
>>
>> alank...@aol.com (AlanKngsly) wrote:
>>
>> >
>> >It's true that I find it interesting to be kept up to speed on the gossip,
>> >but
>> >I doubt I'm the *only* one.
>>
>> I would assume I'd be e-mailed by now if that were the case. Ask Mentock if
>> gossip isn't off-topic here, but I think if it's juicy enough, people would
>> respond and not plonk the hell out of this turd, "John."
>
>I suppose that refers to my tendency to claim that nothing
>is off-topic here. Well, that's true, I think. Even
>boring, biased or fallacious, tendentious, political
>arm-waving--but no one scores any points for that either.
>Same with homework questions, dictionary definitions,
>web searches that could have easily been done yourself, and
>questions that would otherwise seem to be common sense.
Like I said to Alan, it's one of the few virtues we had. It's been a little
uncomfortable posting to afc-a, watching easy answers get handed on platters to
people with the whole internet at their disposal, and with fierce pride in
their supposed intellect. Different group, different customs, I suppose. :)
>
>But <groveling> I have an easy question for you. I actually
>read the mfsd exchange between you and Melin as it unfolded.
>I remember the references to litigation cropped up along the
>way, but I cannot now find the exact posts. Would you be
>able to help? Thanks.
>
This be the last question?
Thread: "And what the h is wrong with the web board anyway?"
http://x42.deja.com/[ST_rn=if]/viewthread.xp?thitnum=30&mhitnum=0&toffset=
0&CONTEXT=953655889.459603987&frpage=threadmsg_if.xp&back=misc.facts.strai
ght-dope&rok=1
Aster
RM Mentock
>
> RM Mentock men...@mindspring.com wrote:
> Like I said to Alan, it's one of the few virtues we had. It's been a little
> uncomfortable posting to afc-a, watching easy answers get handed on platters to
> people with the whole internet at their disposal, and with fierce pride in
> their supposed intellect. Different group, different customs, I suppose. :)
Mostly what you see are people whose interest is
piqued by a question, or it is an area of their
expertise, and they love to discuss it.
> >But <groveling> I have an easy question for you. I actually
> >read the mfsd exchange between you and Melin as it unfolded.
> >I remember the references to litigation cropped up along the
> >way, but I cannot now find the exact posts. Would you be
> >able to help? Thanks.
> This be the last question?
> deja.com
>
> Thread: "And what the h is wrong with the web board anyway?"
>
> http://x42.deja.com/[ST_rn=if]/viewthread.xp?thitnum=30&mhitnum=0&toffset=
> 0&CONTEXT=953655889.459603987&frpage=threadmsg_if.xp&back=misc.facts.strai
> ght-dope&rok=1
Yes, I'd waded through the 147 posts of that thread before
(from deja), and just now read every one of Melin's again.
Didn't she make an off-hand reference to litigation in that
thread somewhere? I have not been able to find it. Maybe
my eyes are playing tricks on me.
Asterbark
>
>Yes, I'd waded through the 147 posts of that thread before
>(from deja), and just now read every one of Melin's again.
>Didn't she make an off-hand reference to litigation in that
>thread somewhere? I have not been able to find it. Maybe
>my eyes are playing tricks on me.
>
Do a date search, beginning with ~Feb. 28th. I think the "legal" portion of
that thread was inferred by someone else after my public apology (March 1st?),
and then speculated upon a few days more. Neither Melin nor myself posted to
directly confirm or deny what had happened behind the scenes in e-mail. Nothing
else was made public about it up until yesterday, and I'm hoping you can locate
all that without more of my helpful assistance. :)
Aster
AlanKngsly
breath when I have the good fortune to read John's prose (sorry, John). But I
don't think he deserves to be piled on the way he has been, and I only
naturally have some empathy considering we were co-targets of that scary
"secret" plot.....
Alan
Barbara
>naturally have some empathy considering we were co-targets of that scary
>"secret" plot.....
Except I was privy to that "secret" plot and trust me, it wasn't very scary.It
was mostly the same bickering you saw on the message board with lots of
ancillary bickering regarding *who* got to be on the secret scary mailing list.
I hope you aren't disappointed, but you were hardly even a secondary target --
maybe one or two people mentioned you as someone who should be annihilated
along with Cyberian, but most everyone else(me included) disagreed with any
attempts to put you in his league.
Dave
>
> >From: johns...@aol.com (Johnsbury1)
>
> RE: thread title.
>
> I don't think that Ed or any of the other Straight Dope staff said or even
> implied that Melin is lesbian.
>
Is that the only definition of "outs"?
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>respond and not plonk the hell out of this turd, "John."
>
Turd? YOU call me a turd. Waaaaaaaaa, that's hysterical. Down at your level of
the food chain you should be more careful, bug.
JOHN
Johnsbury1
>
>>It's true that I find it interesting to be kept up to speed on the gossip,
>>but I doubt I'm the *only* one.
>
>site, so it's off topic for this group.
>
>As for looking it up myself, that's quite
>>impossible without a mouse.
>
>Oh sheesh --- I know you're a starving idealist, but dish out 5 bucks for a
>cheap mouse already.
>
> But even if I could, I'm admittedly lazy
>>(remember
>>the drive-thru thread?) -- I'd rather read it on an easily navigable ng
>>rather
>>than try to plow through that web monstrosity.
>
>Which doesn't change the fact that this conversation belongs on the web
>monstrosity and is off-topic here.
>
>Lastly, I have trouble believing that even you could read the crap that
>John's
>been spewing in this group and (despite the total lack of content and the
>annoying quoting style) still think that he is a worthwhile contributor
>that's
>being unfairly persecuted.
>
>
>
>"No one with half a brain thinks homosexuals want to "convert" straight
>people,
>destroy the family and traditional marriage, etc."-------Cecil Adams
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>>It's true that I find it interesting to be kept up to speed on the gossip,
>>but I doubt I'm the *only* one.
>
>Well, there isn't a lot of crossover between this ng and the "official" TSD
>site, so it's off topic for this group.
>
>As for looking it up myself, that's quite
>>impossible without a mouse.
>
>Oh sheesh --- I know you're a starving idealist, but dish out 5 bucks for a
>cheap mouse already.
>
> But even if I could, I'm admittedly lazy
>>(remember
>>the drive-thru thread?) -- I'd rather read it on an easily navigable ng
>>rather
>>than try to plow through that web monstrosity.
>
>Which doesn't change the fact that this conversation belongs on the web
>monstrosity and is off-topic here.
>
>Lastly, I have trouble believing that even you could read the crap that
>John's
>been spewing in this group and (despite the total lack of content and the
>annoying quoting style) still think that he is a worthwhile contributor
>that's
>being unfairly persecuted.
>
>
>Barbara -
>
>"No one with half a brain thinks homosexuals want to "convert" straight
>people,
>destroy the family and traditional marriage, etc."-------Cecil Adams
>
Barbarawire, you need a shave.
JOHN
Johnsbury1
>>I only
>>naturally have some empathy considering we were co-targets of that scary
>>"secret" plot.....
>
>Except I was privy to that "secret" plot and trust me, it wasn't very
>scary.It
>was mostly the same bickering you saw on the message board with lots of
>ancillary bickering regarding *who* got to be on the secret scary mailing
>list.
>
>I hope you aren't disappointed, but you were hardly even a secondary target
>--
>maybe one or two people mentioned you as someone who should be annihilated
>along with Cyberian, but most everyone else(me included) disagreed with any
>attempts to put you in his league.
>
>"No one with half a brain thinks homosexuals want to "convert" straight
>people,
>destroy the family and traditional marriage, etc."-------Cecil Adams
>
>
Yeah, like you're a bargin? Don't think.
JOHN
Johnsbury1
Only in her mind. She has three outs.
JOHN
Lindy1026
>RE: thread title.
>
>I don't think that Ed or any of the other Straight Dope staff said or even
>implied that Melin is lesbian.
>
Without even reading the rest of this thread, I simply have to respond:
::splort::
Dang Lynn, now I gotta go clean the keyboard!
-Melin
Johnsbury1
JOHN
Majormd
johns...@aol.com (Johnsbury1) wrote:
To those who profess not to care about any of this, read no further.
-
For anyone interested at least one side of this story, which spans the
m.f.s.d. newsgroup as well as the SDMB run by TSD, here goes:
-
In August 1999, Melin was "fired" as an SDMB moderator for refusing to
agree to not publicly criticize another moderator, whether for board-
related issues or views on hot topics. She has continued to have a hot
and cold relationship with Ed, TUBA, & other SD Staff ever since.
Several weeks ago, the SDMB was hacked & remained down for several
days. SDMB members came to the m.f.s.d site to look for info on what
was going on. Melin had IM'd with Ed that fist day & shared what she
knew in a post. She also mentioned the a separate SDStaff-only board
was down as well. Lileth/Terey responded
sarcastically "congratulating" Melin on being staff again. TUBA
responded with a nasty post telling readers not to go to a "poseur",
but go to the source (this AFTER tomndebb had posted that he had tried
to get info from TUBA, but was simply told it's a very bad day...).
TUBA later apologized for that post. Then Asterbark (who has a long
history of flame wars with Melin) made a post stating as fact that
Melin was accessing restricted areas she no longer had authorization to
visit (actually CKDex had asked Melin to go there to finish a project
left hanging from August), and concluded that Melin was "sneaky" and
not to be trusted.
-
Melin mistakenly concluded that Aster got obtained information from
someone on the SD Staff, who had been alerted by another staff member
that Melin was accessing the board. She also viewed Aster's post as
defamatory, and sent a letter to Ed, TUBA, and Aster demanding
apologies/retractions, and that if no retractions were made that she
(Melin) would consider legal action. She received a prompt response
from Ed informing her that she was mistaken in her belief that there
was any official communication to SD Staff about Melin's access to the
Staff Board or that any Staff member had shared inside information with
Aster. She wrote back immediately withdrawing her demands. Apologies
were posted on m.f.s.d. Cybersybar commented later that the apologies
sounded forced & much ugliness followed.
-
About a week later, Ed sent Melin an e-mail telling her that he wanted
to ban her immediately because of her threat to sue, but that others
felt the rules weren't clear on that. He added that rules had been
changed specifically to say that anyone could be banned at any time for
any reason, and that this was directed at her.
-
Back on the SDMB, OpalCat had run a 1st Annual SDMB Awards contest.
Melin, despite her firing in August, won the Best Moderator contest.
She included "Voted Best Moderator" in her sig line, then realized that
that would be misleading, since she was no longer a moderator. So she
tacked on "emeritus" to prevent any confusion. Some of the mods
complained about the use of emeritus & Ed wrote to Melin demanding the
she change her sig line. She did - to "sig line - censored". She was
banned.
--
- Sue from El Paso
Experience is what you get when you didn't get what you wanted.
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Before you buy.
Bob Ward
>In article <20000320075542...@ng-cm1.aol.com>,
>johns...@aol.com (Johnsbury1) wrote:
>
>To those who profess not to care about any of this, read no further.
Snip soap opera synopsis...
Now, how about All My Children or As the World Turns?
Johnsbury1
JOHN
Johnsbury1
>>To those who profess not to care about any of this, read no further.
>
>
>Snip soap opera synopsis...
>
>Now, how about All My Children or As the World Turns?
>
Bob, if you don't like it, don't read it. You were cordially invited to skip
it, if you weren't interested . So? Sounds like YOU have a problem.
JOHN
Bob Ward
Don't bother trying to tell me what to read or what to post, fuckwit -
I can do just fine choosing for myself, as I have for quite some time
now.
Lindy1026
>>
>>-Melin
>>
>You're just getting to that now? <chuckle>
>JOHN
Yeah well, I lurk here on and off, have posted once or twice, but haven't spent
much time here. I guess that's going to change, now.
-Melin
AlanKngsly
that place is (and no, I don't like Stalin, I like Gorbachev, but that's
another subject entirely). Pretty lame....
Alan
Johnsbury1
>>>
>>>>To those who profess not to care about any of this, read no further.
>>>
>>>
>>>Snip soap opera synopsis...
>>>
>>>Now, how about All My Children or As the World Turns?
>>>
>>
>>
>>Bob, if you don't like it, don't read it. You were cordially invited to skip
>>it, if you weren't interested . So? Sounds like YOU have a problem.
>>
>>JOHN
>
>
>Don't bother trying to tell me what to read or what to post, fuckwit -
>I can do just fine choosing for myself, as I have for quite some time
>now.
>
That is soooooo funny. If you have no problem choosing what to read, and you're
so good at it, don't whine about what you read, since YOU chose to read it. duh
JOHN
Johnsbury1
JOHN
Johnsbury1
You'll have to admit, it does beat Gulag SDMB, doesn't it? :)
JOHN
Dave
>
> -
> Back on the SDMB, OpalCat had run a 1st Annual SDMB Awards contest.
> Melin, despite her firing in August, won the Best Moderator contest.
> She included "Voted Best Moderator" in her sig line, then realized that
> that would be misleading, since she was no longer a moderator. So she
> tacked on "emeritus" to prevent any confusion. Some of the mods
> complained about the use of emeritus & Ed wrote to Melin demanding the
> she change her sig line. She did - to "sig line - censored". She was
> banned.
Let me start by saying I don't know who any of these people are, and the
way things went down, I don't care to.
Seems to me that winning the contest gave Melin *every right* to use
that in her .SIG. I mean, what part of "the peope have spoken" did the
'mods' have a problem with? How exclusionary. How stupid.
So to appease these tight-asses, she adds "emeritus" so nobody thinks
she's 'pulling a fast one', and the 'mods' respond by complaining and
demanding she change it?!?
Having read that far, I can say I was not surprised at all that the .SIG
change that reflected the imposed censorship ended up getting her kicked
out of the group. She should have seen that behavior coming a mile
away.
My advice would be to get the hell out and don't look back. Life's too
short, who needs shit like that?
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Johnsbury1
Ratboy speaks with wisdom in this post.
JOHN
Bob Ward
I read it, I commented on it, and I posted my comment. Whining about
it would require me to snivel about how unfairly everyone treated me
on some other venue, and forcing everyone to read dozens of messages
every day about what meanyheads they are in some other galaxy, far far
away.
Fuckwit.
Bob Ward
>>away.
>>
>>My advice would be to get the hell out and don't look back. Life's too
>>short, who needs shit like that?
>>
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>
>Ratboy speaks with wisdom in this post.
>JOHN
Unfortunately, John does not seem to have the wisdom to choose the
course he endorses for others.
Johnsbury1
JOHN
Johnsbury1
There is merit in what you say
JOHN
RM Mentock
> To those who profess not to care about any of this, read no further.
> -
> For anyone interested at least one side of this story, which spans the
> m.f.s.d. newsgroup as well as the SDMB run by TSD, here goes:
mfsd is probably the place to post
<snip>
> Back on the SDMB, OpalCat had run a 1st Annual SDMB Awards contest.
> Melin, despite her firing in August, won the Best Moderator contest.
> She included "Voted Best Moderator" in her sig line, then realized that
> that would be misleading, since she was no longer a moderator. So she
> tacked on "emeritus" to prevent any confusion. Some of the mods
> complained about the use of emeritus & Ed wrote to Melin demanding the
> she change her sig line. She did - to "sig line - censored". She was
> banned.
She was set up to be banned long before that, as Ed admitted.
The Chicago Reader had said to do what he had to do to get rid
of her.
This does have a very soap-opera character. Opal did not run the contest
on the SDMB, but on her Teeming Millions page. She invited votes in all
SDMB topic areas by making a post to all of them, though admitting that
it was only appropriate to MPSIMS, she wanted to make sure that other
posters got the chance to see that there was a vote being taken. Some
moderators deleted the post, some closed it, some left it open. There
was some very acrimonious debate about the moderators' response, and
Opal's. Of course, the (former) moderator of MPSIMS won best moderator.
Most posters in the other areas recognized it as MPSIMS, and let it go
at that. Me, I followed it closely, but I was probably the exception.
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I'm up to my ears in music
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Rich Clancey
+ >
+ >>To those who profess not to care about any of this, read no further.
+ >
+ >
+ >Snip soap opera synopsis...
+ >
+ >Now, how about All My Children or As the World Turns?
+ >
+ Bob, if you don't like it, don't read it. You were cordially invited to skip
+ it, if you weren't interested . So? Sounds like YOU have a problem.
+ JOHN
Don't post crap on this newsgroup with a sophomoric disclaimer
at the beginning.
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Johnsbury1
>Johnsbury1 (johns...@aol.com) wrote:
>+ >
>+ >>To those who profess not to care about any of this, read no further.
>+ >
>+ >
>+ >Snip soap opera synopsis...
>+ >
>+ >Now, how about All My Children or As the World Turns?
>+ >
>
>
>+ Bob, if you don't like it, don't read it. You were cordially invited to
>skip
>+ it, if you weren't interested . So? Sounds like YOU have a problem.
>
>+ JOHN
>
> Don't post crap on this newsgroup with a sophomoric disclaimer
>at the beginning.
>--
I did not write that , Magormd, Sue from El Paso did, but I agree with her.
JOHN