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Reporter: Nick Grimm
HAMISH ROBERTSON: The film and television industry is demanding that
the Federal Government provide more detail on how it plans to protect
local content on our screens.

While Canberra has claimed it retains the capability to set local
content levels, Washington's claim that it's won important and
unprecedented access to the Australian media market in this week's
trade deal is causing a great deal of anxiety.

The fear is that new emerging media platforms like digital television
and the Internet will be swamped with American content at the expense
of locally produced programs.

Nick Grimm reports.

(excerpt from new program from Foxtel)

NICK GRIMM: For anyone contemplating their future viewing habits, it
sounds like a great deal. A raft of channels, sites and on screen
products, all with guaranteed local content to ensure that the Aussie
accent doesn't get swamped by American voices.

(excerpt from Foxtel advertisement)

A collective sigh of relief from the film and television industry
greeted yesterday's announcement that local content had been protected
under the proposed trade deal.

Today however, that relief has turned to anxiety as the detail sinks
in.

Richard Harris is Executive Director from the Australian Screen
Directors Association.

RICHARD HARRIS: Well our concern is really that, you know, whether we
really will have flexibility to move in the future, whether those
levels of Australian content that Australian consumers are used to
getting now will be guaranteed into the future.

NICK GRIMM: While existing local content rules for free-to-air
television will be preserved, the situation is more uncertain for the
new emerging platforms, expected to win over a bigger slice of
available audiences in the years ahead.

Richard Harris again.

RICHARD HARRIS: I think that until we actually get the detail, it's
really going to be an open question about it.

NICK GRIMM: The US Government's spin on the trade deal, meanwhile, puts
it this way, stating that when it comes to media, the FTA contains
"important and unprecedented provisions to improve market access for US
films and television programs over a variety of media including cable,
satellite and the internet".

So what exactly does that imply for the future? That's a question many
in the industry are asking today.

National Director of the Media Entertainment and Arts Alliance, Simon
Whipp.

SIMON WHIPP: But what is clear is that we're disappointed with the
results. While the rules relating to, or some of the rules relating to
local content on free-to-air television will remain in place, the
picture is certainly not as clear in relation to the future.

For example, on pay television the proposals are very disappointing and
in new media, for example Internet and other new media, the future is
looking very bleak.

NICK GRIMM: The film and television industry had lobbied the Federal
Government intensively, fearing local content rules would be traded
away to clinch the deal.

(excerpt from television ad)

The Federal Government has said that it's negotiated the capability to
regulate new and emerging media including digital and interactive TV.
How it will do that has not been revealed, but with providers like
Foxtel recently launching its big new push for audiences, the worry is
that local content will be gradually diluted.

Megan Elliott is the Executive Director of the Australian Writers'
Guild.

MEGAN ELLIOTT: It looks as though what the Government has delivered
will be substantially less Australian content for audiences of the
future.

NICK GRIMM: Well it was being said yesterday that the Federal
Government had managed to protect local content in this deal.

MEGAN ELLIOTT: That's right and by the United States' Government they
have been, it's been said that they have got unprecedented provisions
to increase market access for American cinema, television and Internet
into Australia. So both sides are claiming victory.

NICK GRIMM: Okay, now how is this likely to impact on what Australians
are watching at home on their television?

MEGAN ELLIOTT: Look, until the free trade agreement gets through,
including the enabling legislation, it won't. But in the future, for
example it seems as though we're only going to be able to regulate up
to 10 per cent expenditure quota on childrens and educational
television on pay TV.

At the moment a 10 per cent expenditure quota delivers just more than
three per cent Australian content on all channels. So, I mean, we could
be looking at something as low as three per cent Australian content on
educational documentary and childrens channels in the future.

NICK GRIMM: But some don't share the pessimism. Harry Melkonian is a
Sydney based lawyer specialising in US trade. He believes the FTA is
unlikely to have a major impact.

HARRY MELKONIAN: I don't think it will because there's only a limited
amount of American product that will be of interest to the Australian
audience and based on what I've seen occurred in Canada, the Canadian
content was able to continue even though there's been a free trade
agreement there for many years.

HAMISH ROBERTSON: That was Harry Melkonian, a Sydney-based lawyer
specialising in US trade and media issues. Nick Grimm compiled that
report.
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Has came to the forks in the road. The old FTA sats were low powered
and required a minimum size dish of 36 inches in diameter!The old FTA
required a bigger dish because a stronger a signal could be focused
from it! However DBS down sized the dish because they amplified the
signal on the newer sats. How ever some of the FTA IRDs that adveretise
DVB compliant have been modified by amplifiers in side the box!! Now
that we are thinking inside the box a simple voice inversion would
allow a weaker signal to be recieved thus giving new life to the old
birds,Same as amplifing the signal via the lnb! It could be called
digital to baffle the heard when in fact in would be a C4FM band width
going from 6.25 megacycles to PEP by doubling to 12.5 FM band width
would be kinda like CW vrs AM! So to sum this up for you FTA is not
going anywhere anytime soon but will be changed to C4FM along with all
DBS (DSS & DVB) It will be called Nagra 2 this is the name given it by
the Isreali company(NAGRAVISION)that Rupert Murdoch opened to take the
heat off DNS for dumping the keys on the internet,so he could
monopolize!


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The so-called "smart" or "conditional access" cards used to access Sky,
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chips holding complex codes to make sure viewers see only what they
have paid to see.

The Haifa team knew all about this. They worked for NDS, a Murdoch
company which had begun life as a start-up firm, News Datacom, in
Israel eight years earlier. Rupert Murdoch's News Corporation had
backed the venture in the belief that the coming digital age required a
quantum leap in areas such as data security and the encryption of
communications.

NDS was to go on and design the encryption process that would be used
on the smart cards handed out with every Murdoch pay TV package in the
world. With 27m viewers using its cards in 40% of the world's satellite
receivers, it would become a company valued at well over $1bn in its
own right.

But NDS had one important rival, an encryption technology developed in
France by the local broadcaster Canal Plus which had been adopted by
just about all News Corporation's rival broadcasters.

The NDS team in Haifi, according to a lawsuit filed in the US district
court for the Nothern District of California, set out to "sabotage
Canal Plus technological security measures engineered into its smart
cards."

Breaking the encryption alone would cost up to $5m. The process
demanded the use of ultra-expensive electron-scanning microscopes, with
the team probing wafer-thin chips no bigger than a thumbnail. Each chip
contained up to 50 layers, with each layer in turn carrying up to 1,000
transistors, every one of which had to be pulled apart and analysed.

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Even with access to the most sophisticated equipment and seemingly
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which was supposed to be impossible to decipher.

>From there, according to Canal Plus's $1bn claim for damages, it was a
relatively straightforward matter of releasing the information and then
waiting for the world's counterfeiters to undermine every rival
broadcaster using the French encryption system.

In early 1999, the NDS team isolated a piece of the encryption software
known as the UserROM, a portion of computer memory on a smart card
which controls access to the rest of the digital data. This information
was dropped into a downloadable internet file called Secarom.zip,
which, according to the Canal Plus claim, was then sent to the Haifa
team's colleagues in California at NDS Americas with instructions that
it be published on the internet so that anyone wanting to produce
pirate Canal Plus cards could do so.

Canal Plus claims that the file was then transferred to a web operator
called Al Menart, who ran a website known as DR7.com, a geekish
internet service which promptly published the Canal Plus code for all
to see.

By late 1999 the first counterfeit cards had begun to appear and,
according to Canal Plus, by September 2000 the Italian market was
flooded. Proliferation across Europe was in full swing.

The cards have become commonplace in Britain, with ITV Digital
complaining recently that more than 100,000 pirate cards are in
circulation here.

Executives at ITV Digital, which has struggled to build a strong base
of subscribers and which continues to haemorrhage cash, were apparently
appalled recently by comments made by Sky's chief executive, Tony Ball,
during an address to the company's US investors. "ITV Digital/DTT is
completely pirated, a joke. For $7 you can buy a card for all
channels," he is reported to have said.

Canal Plus faces the exhaustive process of renewing the technology in
the 12 million cards issued worldwide. ITV Digital customers can expect
completely new plastic by the end of the year.

François Carayol, chairman and chief executive of Canal Plus
Technologies, said: "When it emerged that the most secure part of our
smart card system had been invaded we immediately launched an
investigation into why and how it happened.

"We certainly didn't expect our investigations to lead us to NDS. It is
not the type of action we would have expected from such a
well-established firm."

For its part, NDS says the whole piracy claim is an outlandish
fabrication. A statement from Abe Peled, the company's president and
chief executive, last night said the counterfeiters had simply targeted
an inferior technology and succeeded without any help from anyone.

He suggested that Canal Plus is in commercial trouble and revealed that
the French firm had approached NDS before Christmas suggesting a
merger, adding that the French had been trying to poach the NDS
employee accused of leaking Canal Plus's code.

Corporate battle

In a pointer to the corporate battle that is unfolding, Mr Peled also
drew attention to news reports over recent weeks suggesting
disagreement within Canal Plus's parent company, Vivendi Universal,
over what direction the French media business should take.

Vivendi, in its current form as a media and communications giant with
interests ranging from Hollywood movies to third-generation mobile
phones, has been built in double-quick speed by a former investment
banker called Jean Marie Messier. He is known as Jean 2M and considered
a messianic figure in French business circles, having burst out of the
confines of the French national market to create a real threat to Mr
Murdoch.

But he built Vivendi with a furious round of acquisitions just as the
internet boom was hitting its peak.

Last week he was forced to take a write-down in Vivendi's accounts to
cover the value which has been destroyed as dotcom and technology
companies have imploded.

The battle with NDS is likely to test his mettle even further.

As for News Corporation, executives there will be well aware that this
is not the first time that its 80% owned associate NDS has polluted the
group's public image.

One morning in October 1996, Israeli tax officials, apparently acting
on a tip-off from a former employee, raided the company's Jerusalem
offices and also the site in Haifa. They were looking for evidence that
NDS had evaded £100m in tax oversix years; 70 tax officers removed
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The all knowing Nastrodamus predicted piracy would be prevailent untill

Rupert Murdoch gained control of his Monopoly board! That time has came

and gone.Uncle Rupert no longer has to furnish hackery to drive the
sell price of all pay sat tv networks within his reasonimg . He has
made the purchase and now owns them all!.The Football card was never
compromised but was erased and recloned a bogus ART.The lawsuits via
DTV & Canal plus vrs NDS forced his hand to join in on the sting to
save his a$$. So he supplied the EXTREME HU and THE ATR and DicTV
supplied the packets that gave full authorozation to all cards with
said ATR 3f,7f,00.25,48,hut, hut...


So there never was a p3 hack nor will there ever be a p4 hack nor
nagra II hack. But there will be Scams /stings that will look decieving

enough to get you VOTE..We take Pay-Pal folks if you dont have the
money we will loan it to you just for your sig;) Its Organized
Crime(scam) till they get caught then it becomes a sting operation.
Dictv and dicnet could give two shits for your ID but them lawyers love

them$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$
Quartrain::Looks like uncle Ruport Is making his move Yes
network(NDS) has offered to purchase DISH/DTV ..So its going to be
cheap tv Til Uncle Rupert's Take-over!!

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