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shaun.lucas

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In no particular order...

Movies

1. Star Wars
2. Independence Day
3. The Abyss: Special Edition
4. Blade Runner
5. The Matrix

Sequels

1. Aliens: Special Edition
2: Terminator 2: Judgement Day - Special Edition
3. Batman Returns
4. Mad Max 2 (The Road Warrior)
5. Die Hard 2


Shaun.

Michael Williams

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> Movies
>
> 1. Star Wars
> 2. Independence Day
> 3. The Abyss: Special Edition
> 4. Blade Runner
> 5. The Matrix
>
> Sequels
>
> 1. Aliens: Special Edition
> 2: Terminator 2: Judgement Day - Special Edition
> 3. Batman Returns
> 4. Mad Max 2 (The Road Warrior)
> 5. Die Hard 2

I'm afraid I have just lost *all* respect for you. And I suspect I will lose
my respect for others if mike chambermaids top five long players are
anything to go by.

I particularly cuss the Abyss being in the top five movies of all time. I
mean, c'mon, you're having a giraffe.

Hayn-me-do

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>...you're having a giraffe.

You still have the video?

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>In no particular order...

You == shitness.

Top 5 movies... erm.

Fried Green Tomatoes at the Whistlestop Café
A Life Less Ordinary
The Sound of Music
Contact
Little Shop of Horrors (the musical version)

James Lyon

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"shaun.lucas" wrote:

> In no particular order...
>
> Movies
>

Bah. The top five movies that I like are:

Ferris Bueller's Day Off
Carrie
Dawn Of The Dead

Er, that's three. Oh well. Others I like, but not enough to feel
emotional about them. So much so that I can watch these films no more
than once or twice a year so as not to decrease their impact. Hell, I
don't even own them on video. I may get them on DVD though for
posterity.

Oh and there's another film I love - an A Team television movie which
holds the record for the most viewings in the shortest amount of time.
It's simply the best aspects of the A Team crammed into one whole hour
and a half or so. I'm sorry I taped over it.


Glyndwr

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shaun.lucas <shaun...@ntlworld.com> wrote in message
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> In no particular order...

Mine, too.
Grosse Point Blank
Bladerunner
A Few Good Men
possibly The Matrix, ask me in a few years when the novelty has worn off

I have no idea about sequels, as I don't tend to mentally ringfence them
from other films. Dunno about a fifth film, either.

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Tinman

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shaun.lucas wrote
> In no particular order...
>
> Movies
>
> 1. Star Wars

Okay.

> 2. Independence Day

MOHOHLOHOHOHOLOOHOHOOHOLOHOHOHOHOHOHO
HOHOHO
etc.

I can't believe that - are you serious???

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Daniel Thornton

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On Tue, 22 Aug 2000 17:10:49 +0100, shaun.lucas said...

> 1. Star Wars

Cliched, over-hyped, over-produced shite. And that goes for the sequels and
prequels also.

> 2. Independence Day

I'll let that one go because it was blatantly a high-camp invasion film of
the 1950's style, just with good effects.

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Daniel Thornton

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On Tue, 22 Aug 2000 17:55:32 +0100, Glyndwr said...

> > In no particular order...
> Mine, too.

Mine, also...

Apocalypse Now


Ferris Bueller's Day Off

The Matrix
Batman: The Movie (the original version with Adam West. Not the
terribly-awful 80's/90's revivals)
and, er, whichever slapstick comedy is the one I like most on any given
day.

Glyndwr

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Glyndwr <glynF...@FSCKdeleteEmeD.co.uk> wrote in message
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> shaun.lucas <shaun...@ntlworld.com> wrote in message
> news:oBxo5.13817$BQ6.1...@news6-win.server.ntlworld.com...
> > In no particular order...
>
> Mine, too.
> Grosse Point Blank
> Bladerunner
> A Few Good Men
> possibly The Matrix, ask me in a few years when the novelty has worn off
>
> I have no idea about sequels, as I don't tend to mentally ringfence them
> from other films. Dunno about a fifth film, either.

Highlander.

shaun.lucas

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> > 2. Independence Day
>
> MOHOHLOHOHOHOLOOHOHOOHOLOHOHOHOHOHOHO
> HOHOHO
> etc.
>
> I can't believe that - are you serious???

Yes. It's because the film is so completely over the top, with its
stereotypical characters, corny dialogue and coincidence-ridden plot - yet
it's a total rollercoaster ride from start to finish. As far as I am
concerned, you are simply not meant to the take ID4 at all seriously. It's a
popcorn movie.

Shaun.

shaun.lucas

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> I'm afraid I have just lost *all* respect for you.

What, Michael? You had some respect for me to begin with...?

Seriously though...

> I particularly cuss the Abyss being in the top five movies of all time. I
> mean, c'mon, you're having a giraffe.

No. It is, in the main, excellent. Of course, the scene where Mary Elizabeth
Mastrantonio starts crying like some silly bitch into the microphone is
insipid romanticised shite - but that's two minutes out of 174, so I'm not
complaining...

Shaun.

shaun.lucas

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> >In no particular order...
>
> You == shitness.

Well, erm...

> Contact

Now there's a good movie. I have the DVD. It is excellent, yes.

Shaun.

shaun.lucas

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> I am glad, however, to have found someone who agrees with me on the fact
> that Aliens: Special Edition really is better than the original cut. Most
> people I talk to dismiss it as 'a cheap cash in that doesn't add anything
to
> the film'. What does everybody else think?

Yes, it is better. Fox should have let Cameron go with that version in the
first place, instead of making him cut it. Like T2 and The Abyss, the
Special Edition makes the original theatrical version unwatchable.

Shaun.

James Shawe

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>
> shaun.lucas wrote
> > In no particular order...
> >
> > Movies
> >
> > 1. Star Wars
>
> Okay.
>
> > 2. Independence Day
>
> MOHOHLOHOHOHOLOOHOHOOHOLOHOHOHOHOHOHO
> HOHOHO
> etc.
>
> I can't believe that - are you serious???
>
> --
> Tinman
>
>
>
>


1. Apocalypse Now
2. Aliens
3. The Marathon Man
4. Godfather Trilogy
5. Star Wars

James

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James Shawe

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"Paul Guare" <zan...@btinternet.com> wrote in message
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> Independence Day? Oh well, each to his own, I guess.


>
> I am glad, however, to have found someone who agrees with me on the fact
> that Aliens: Special Edition really is better than the original cut. Most
> people I talk to dismiss it as 'a cheap cash in that doesn't add anything
to
> the film'. What does everybody else think?
>
>
>
>
>

Yeah, those drone guns, groovy, also like the Evil Dead trilogy.

Tinman

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shaun.lucas wrote

> Yes. It's because the film is so completely over the top, with its
> stereotypical characters, corny dialogue and coincidence-ridden plot - yet
> it's a total rollercoaster ride from start to finish. As far as I am
> concerned, you are simply not meant to the take ID4 at all seriously. It's
a
> popcorn movie.

You like it that much though? Better than all the other movies you could
have picked? Well, each to his own, but... It's not something i could watch
again, and again, and again or anything. But i must admit that it's
stereotypical british flyboys were hilarious,

Flyboy 1 : <twirling moustache> 'What ho, those jolly yanks have found a way
to kill those dashed alien chaps'
Flyboy 2 : <wearing monacle> 'pip pip, well we'll jolly well show those
alien rotters what for once we've finished our tea'

and so on and so on.

--
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Tinman

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shaun.lucas wrote

> Yes, it is better. Fox should have let Cameron go with that version in the
> first place, instead of making him cut it. Like T2 and The Abyss, the
> Special Edition makes the original theatrical version unwatchable.

You didn't specifically say the Blade Runner Directors Cut though, which is
odd, as the Directors Cut is the far superior - unless you feel the original
is better?

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Tinman

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Daniel Thornton wrote

> > 1. Star Wars
>
> Cliched, over-hyped, over-produced shite.

Slightly cynical, aren't we?

If you'll notice, in 1976, it was none of these things on release.

But with the benefit of hindsight it's easy to make such a lazy 'oh look,
i'm so cool, i don't like star wars' claim.

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Daniel Thornton

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On Tue, 22 Aug 2000 19:47:15 +0100, Tinman said...

> > > 1. Star Wars
> > Cliched, over-hyped, over-produced shite.
> Slightly cynical, aren't we?

No. It is one of the worst film franchises of all time. Absolute shite from
start to finish.



> If you'll notice, in 1976, it was none of these things on release.

Yes it was. It relied on special effects which were excellent for the time.
A few years later when it's popularity was waning it was re-cut with new
effects to hide the shallow, boring "plot" for a while in order to pave the
way for new shallow, boring over-produced sequels.

Star Wars is a clone of every western ever made, just set in space.

Hayn-me-do

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I have all my fave movies on DVD now. Apart from Little Shop of
Horros (I'm looking for the one with the original ending) and The
Sound of Music is on order, released 28th Aug.

Hayn-me-do

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>I have no idea about sequels, as I don't tend to mentally ringfence them
>from other films.

Just thinking about it one of the best (or perhaps most "worthy")
sequal is probably Jurassic Park 2. Not as good as the book, tho.

Hayn-me-do

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>Independence Day? Oh well, each to his own, I guess.
>
>I am glad, however, to have found someone who agrees with me on the fact
>that Aliens: Special Edition really is better than the original cut. Most
>people I talk to dismiss it as 'a cheap cash in that doesn't add anything to
>the film'. What does everybody else think?

I liked Aliens Special Edition.

I've never seen Alien3: Special Edition though. I remember it being
released on VHS many moons ago, but the Alien Legacy DVD box set
doesn't contain the Special Edition of Alien3. Which makes me refuse
to buy it. I think the original ending was "re-done" for the
LaserDisc release, but they never released it as the format kinda
died.

The T2 Special Edition (T2000?) is okay, it doesn't build on the plot
much tho, I you can see why the scenes were cut out.

Hayn-me-do

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>
>Daniel Thornton wrote


>> > 1. Star Wars
>>
>> Cliched, over-hyped, over-produced shite.
>
>Slightly cynical, aren't we?

Star Wars is poo.

>But with the benefit of hindsight it's easy to make such a lazy 'oh look,
>i'm so cool, i don't like star wars' claim.

But Star Wars is horrible.

STAR TREK IS THE BESTEST THING EVER. It's true.

Fish

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Mine are

1)Leon
2)Godfather
3)The Crow
4)Reservoir Dogs
5)The Usual Suspects

Sequels

1)Godfather 2
2)Empire Strikes Back
3)Mallrats (This is a semi sequel kind of...)
4)Scream 3
5)Aliens Directors Cut

Yes.

Fish


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buzz

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"shaun.lucas" wrote:

> In no particular order...
>
> Movies
>
> 1. Star Wars

> 2. Independence Day
> 3. The Abyss: Special Edition
> 4. Blade Runner
> 5. The Matrix
>
> Sequels
>
> 1. Aliens: Special Edition
> 2: Terminator 2: Judgement Day - Special Edition
> 3. Batman Returns
> 4. Mad Max 2 (The Road Warrior)
> 5. Die Hard 2
>

Dont you think this whole thread is a little unwise? surely you might
have learnt from the boringness that was the top five cd's. Anyhoo,
heres mine

1 Blade runner :DC
2 Star wars
3 Reservoir dogs
4 The Matrix
5 The seven samurai

Also 5 is way to small, and I allways want to add/take away something
later.

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Tinman

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Daniel Thornton wrote

> Star Wars is a clone of every western ever made, just set in space.

Every western is a clone of every Akira Kurasawa Samurai movie ever made,
just set in the american wild west.

Do you see?

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Tom Camfield

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On 22 Aug 2000 19:55:37 +0100, "Daniel Thornton"
<dan...@the-wibble.co.uk> wrote:

>On Tue, 22 Aug 2000 19:47:15 +0100, Tinman said...
>

>> > > 1. Star Wars
>> > Cliched, over-hyped, over-produced shite.
>> Slightly cynical, aren't we?
>

>No. It is one of the worst film franchises of all time. Absolute shite from
>start to finish.
>
>> If you'll notice, in 1976, it was none of these things on release.
>
>Yes it was. It relied on special effects which were excellent for the time.
>A few years later when it's popularity was waning it was re-cut with new
>effects to hide the shallow, boring "plot" for a while in order to pave the
>way for new shallow, boring over-produced sequels.
>

>Star Wars is a clone of every western ever made, just set in space.

And Hidden Fortress, natch.

Tom Camfield

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On Tue, 22 Aug 2000 20:54:12 +0100, "Tinman" <Tin...@portalofevil.com>
wrote:

>
>Daniel Thornton wrote


>> Star Wars is a clone of every western ever made, just set in space.
>

>Every western is a clone of every Akira Kurasawa Samurai movie ever made,
>just set in the american wild west.
>
>Do you see?

That would work if John Ford and Howard Hawks had not inspired him.
DO YOU SEE?

Tom Camfield

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On Tue, 22 Aug 2000 17:10:49 +0100, "shaun.lucas"
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>In no particular order...
>
>Movies
>

Cross of Iron
Wild Bunch
Once Upon A Time In The West
Akira
Sonatine

>Sequels
>

Dawn of the Dead

shaun.lucas

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> You didn't specifically say the Blade Runner Directors Cut though, which
is
> odd, as the Directors Cut is the far superior - unless you feel the
original
> is better?

Oops, an omission on my part. Yes, the Director's Cut, definitely. Although
I'm waiting to see if the rumours are true that Ridley Scott is preparing
another version...

Shaun.

shaun.lucas

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> Dont you think this whole thread is a little unwise? surely you might
> have learnt from the boringness that was the top five cd's. Anyhoo,
> heres mine

Maybe, but it keeps the group talking, which is of course the whole point.
And you still gave us your top five...

:-)

Shaun.

Branch-me-do

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On Tue, 22 Aug 2000 17:10:49 +0100, "shaun.lucas"
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>In no particular order...

I know every else is saying this, but those/you movies is/are shit.
It's clear you're a huge fan of Hollywood happy-ending science
fiction.

Movies

1. Miracle Mile
2. Mad Max
3. Star Wars
4. Terminator 2
5. Full Metal Jacket

Okay, so mine isn't much better, but at least Independence Day isn't
on there. Yes, 'oh no you do not shoot that green shit at me' is a
good line, but it does not a good movie make.

Sequels
1. Aliens
2. Die Hard with a Vengeance

That's all I can think of right now. Sequels = badness.

Michael Williams

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> > I particularly cuss the Abyss being in the top five movies of all time.
I
> > mean, c'mon, you're having a giraffe.
>
> No. It is, in the main, excellent.

No.

The Great Cthulhu

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> Dawn Of The Dead

B-b-b-but that's a sequel, you sly fox you.

Mine. I hate doing this though, I really need a top 100.

Close Encounters
Star Wars
True Romance
Bullet In The Head
The Princess Bride

Sequels-

The Empire Strikes Back
Aliens
Day Of The Dead
Evil Dead 2
Ummm, can't think off the top of my head. . . .


The Great Cthulhu

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For the DVD release if I remember rightly. I still want Spielberg to cobble
together the definative Close Encounters release it on DVD, mmmmm.


The Great Cthulhu

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>
> Daniel Thornton wrote

> > > 1. Star Wars
> >
> > Cliched, over-hyped, over-produced shite.
>
> Slightly cynical, aren't we?
>
> If you'll notice, in 1976, it was none of these things on release.

Exactly what I was going to say, Star Wars was far from hyped during it's
original release and succeeded by word of mouth. . .


Tom Camfield

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Or, to be far clearer, the Westerns of John Ford and Howard Hawks
inspired Kurosawa.

Ford had been making Westerns since 1917, when Akira was 7.
Akira made his first film in 1943. Stagecoach was released in 1939.

Akira directly inspired Star Wars (Hidden Fortress), A Fistful of
Dollars (Yojimbo) The Outrage (Rashomon) and The Magnificent Seven
(Seven Samurai).

Glyndwr

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According to DVD-expert-me-do in work, there is already one release of
Bladerunner on DVD and it's shit. And there's a "Special Edition" which is
£40 or something. Cuss.

He could be wrong, though.

Hayn-me-do

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>Movies
<SNIP>
>4. Terminator 2

Amusement. YOU DIDN'T INCLUDE IT IN THE SEQU`ALS SECTION.

shaun.lucas

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> > No. It is, in the main, excellent.
>
> No.

Yes...

Shaun.


Tinman

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Tom Camfield wrote

> >That would work if John Ford and Howard Hawks had not inspired him.
>
> Or, to be far clearer, the Westerns of John Ford and Howard Hawks
> inspired Kurosawa.
>
> Ford had been making Westerns since 1917, when Akira was 7.
> Akira made his first film in 1943. Stagecoach was released in 1939.
>
> Akira directly inspired Star Wars (Hidden Fortress), A Fistful of
> Dollars (Yojimbo) The Outrage (Rashomon) and The Magnificent Seven
> (Seven Samurai).

Yes... But the point i was trying to make was that for every movie ever you
can claim something that inspired it. It doesn't mean that movie is any the
worse for it.

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Tinman

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The Great Cthulhu wrote

> Exactly what I was going to say, Star Wars was far from hyped during it's
> original release and succeeded by word of mouth. . .

Well, it's just our culture of 'build them up, knock them down', Star Wars
isn't cool anymore so it sucks, and has forever, honest.

But then, i suppose George Lucas brought it on himself, Episode 1 wasn't...
The best thing ever and the special editions were not exactly much better
than the originals or anything.

But i have enough faith to think episode 2 will be good.

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Daniel Thornton

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On Wed, 23 Aug 2000 01:07:09 +0100, Tinman said...

> Well, it's just our culture of 'build them up, knock them down', Star Wars
> isn't cool anymore so it sucks, and has forever, honest.

Bollocks. I've never liked Star Wars because it is boring, plot-free
drivel.

Michael Williams

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> Yes it was. It relied on special effects which were excellent for the
time.
> A few years later when it's popularity was waning it was re-cut with new
> effects to hide the shallow, boring "plot" for a while in order to pave
the
> way for new shallow, boring over-produced sequels.
>
> Star Wars is a clone of every western ever made, just set in space.

I'm not a star wars fan but you've messed up spectacularly badly here son.

Glyndwr

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> STAR TREK IS THE BESTEST THING EVER. It's true.

Someone I know forwarded me this a while back. It amused me.

>Am I the only person who subscribes to this list who hates Star Trek? Its
>the same in the office I work in. Everyone else loves the bloody thing (I
>think it has something to do with working in a software development
>centre). I'm think of getting a T shirt printed with "No. I didn't see it
>last night" on it.
>
>No. It sucks shit. It's bland, trite, tech-wank fantasies written by
>gibbons and acted by morons for the benefit of f*cking slime mould. It has
>the emotional depth and intellectual scope of 'Beverly Hills 90210'. It's
>the knotweed of science fiction, strangling the genre and cutting it off
>from its roots while at the same time colonising the space it used to
>occupy. The other big problem I have with it sort of centres around the
>intriguing question of *what they've done with the civilians*. You just
>ask a Trekkie, and watch the shuffling of feet and coughing that goes on.
>Oh, and when I come to power as world dictator, you know all those twats
>who learned Klingon? Straight down the re-education camp, there to be hit
>with big sticks until they realise the error of their ways.
>--
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fish...@aol.com.mohh (Fish), in message
<20000822151610...@ng-fc1.aol.com>, wrote

>Mine are
>
>1)Leon
>

If you haven't already, and get a chance, see Nikita.

Excellent film, despite being in French.
That's where Leon makes his first appearance.

The first episode of "La Femme Nikita" was basically a retread of
part of the film, but nowhere near as good.
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>If you haven't already, and get a chance, see Nikita.

I will. is he played by Jean Reno still?

Derek Jolly

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fish...@aol.com.mohh (Fish), in message
<20000823064950...@ng-ff1.aol.com>, wrote

>>If you haven't already, and get a chance, see Nikita.
>
>I will. is he played by Jean Reno still?

In Nikita there's a character called Victor the Cleaner.
You only see him for a couple of minutes, and he's played by
Jean Reno.

That's the character that Luc Besson basically expanded for Leon
(Nikita's directed by Luc Besson too).

Tinman

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Daniel Thornton wrote

> Bollocks. I've never liked Star Wars because it is boring, plot-free
> drivel.

I didn't say i was talking about you.

You assume too much, Danny boy.

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buzz

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Derek Jolly wrote:

> fish...@aol.com.mohh (Fish), in message
> <20000823064950...@ng-ff1.aol.com>, wrote
>
> >>If you haven't already, and get a chance, see Nikita.
> >
> >I will. is he played by Jean Reno still?
>
> In Nikita there's a character called Victor the Cleaner.
> You only see him for a couple of minutes, and he's played by
> Jean Reno.
>
> That's the character that Luc Besson basically expanded for Leon
> (Nikita's directed by Luc Besson too).

I share a Birthday with Luc Besson. ph33r.


buzz

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Glyndwr wrote:

I am a subscriber to alt.fan.blade-runner And I have heard thet there will be
a special edition, but it's not out yet. It will contain deleted scenes,
trailers interviews with cast and crew ect, and possibly the documenty, shown
on channel 4 a few weeks ago. It will not cost anything like £40 though,
unless you import it.

The current release of blade runner on DVD is not shit as such, its just that
it has no extras. Just the film itself.

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Glyndwr

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buzz <thomas-...@1me.net> wrote in message
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> Glyndwr wrote:
> > According to DVD-expert-me-do in work, there is already one release of
> > Bladerunner on DVD and it's shit. And there's a "Special Edition" which
is
> > £40 or something. Cuss.
>
> I am a subscriber to alt.fan.blade-runner And I have heard thet there
will be
> a special edition, but it's not out yet. It will contain deleted scenes,
> trailers interviews with cast and crew ect, and possibly the documenty,
shown
> on channel 4 a few weeks ago. It will not cost anything like £40 though,
> unless you import it.
>
> The current release of blade runner on DVD is not shit as such, its just
that
> it has no extras. Just the film itself.

Really? Excellent. BladeRunner will be one of the first DVDs I get when I
finally get a DVD player. Thanks for the info.

Daniel Thornton

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On Wed, 23 Aug 2000 12:07:30 +0100, Tinman said...

> I didn't say i was talking about you.

So even though it was a direct reply to a post I made, in response to my
opinion, you weren't actually talking about me.

Perhaps you should make things a bit clearer love.

Hayn-me-do

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Glyndwr spaketh unto alt.digitiser in
<VROo5.1520$q_1....@news6-win.server.ntlworld.com>...

>Really? Excellent. BladeRunner will be one of the first DVDs I get when I
>finally get a DVD player. Thanks for the info.

Terminator 2: Ultimate DVD Edition has SIX HOURS of video on it.

I ph33r.

Tinman

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Daniel Thornton wrote

> So even though it was a direct reply to a post I made, in response to my
> opinion, you weren't actually talking about me.
>
> Perhaps you should make things a bit clearer love.

S'pose so... I was just making a general statement - It's quite in vogue to
diss star wars recently.

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Branch-me-do

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On Tue, 22 Aug 2000 23:40:09 +0100, Hayn-me-do
<ni...@officialsecretsact.com> wrote:

>Branch-me-do spaketh unto alt.digitiser in
><8br5qs4ig3gtr0l89...@4ax.com>...
>
>>Movies
><SNIP>
>>4. Terminator 2
>
>Amusement. YOU DIDN'T INCLUDE IT IN THE SEQU`ALS SECTION.

Where was it demanded if it was a sequel it HAD to go in the sequels
section? It's an excellent movie on it's own!

Philip Kaulfuss

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Derek Jolly all over your boing:

: In Nikita there's a character called Victor the Cleaner.


: You only see him for a couple of minutes, and he's played by
: Jean Reno.

Harvey Keitel in the Hollywood remake.

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Rev. Owen Allaway

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"Fish" <fish...@aol.com.mohh> wrote...
> Mine are
>
> 1)Leon

Excuse my butting in here, and any general smell of newbie cungtishness I
bring in with me, but I saw "Leon - Version Integrale" last night for the
first time. There's 24 minutes of stuff that wasn't in the original version
and it's all great. If you've only seen the short version of the movie I
highly recommend seeking the long version out. It's out on Jap R2 DVD and US
R1 DVD (where it goes by the excellently long name "Leon - The Professional
(Uncut International Version)").

I'll be relurking now, but thought you might be interested.

Owen

Glyndwr

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Rev. Owen Allaway <jc...@weld18.demon.co.uk> wrote in message
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I give this post a newbie shitness rating of 1/10. I'll take the other mark
off if you're a real Reverend.

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Rev. Owen Allaway

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"Glyndwr" wrote...

> Rev. Owen Allaway <jc...@weld18.demon.co.uk> wrote in message
> news:HiSo5.290$GX5....@dfiatx1-snr1.gtei.net...
>
> > I'll be relurking now, but thought you might be interested.
>
> I give this post a newbie shitness rating of 1/10. I'll take the other
mark
> off if you're a real Reverend.

Sort of, yes. I am an atheist and minister in the Universal Life Church. If
you don't already know about it, to become a minister in their church all
you have to do is ask - there's a form to fill in at www.ulc.org and you get
a nifty certificate to print out. You don't actually have to believe
anything to be a member of their church. So I think I'm a real Reverend, but
others (e.g. the UK government) may disagree.

I just love the idea of a religion where you don't have to believe anything
at all. It's like setting up a political party made up of people who can't
be bothered to vote.

Owen

Michael Williams

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> Sort of, yes. I am an atheist and minister in the Universal Life Church.
If
> you don't already know about it, to become a minister in their church all
> you have to do is ask - there's a form to fill in at www.ulc.org and you
get
> a nifty certificate to print out. You don't actually have to believe
> anything to be a member of their church. So I think I'm a real Reverend,
but
> others (e.g. the UK government) may disagree.

Bah. Thats no good, is it?

I demand you have cassocks and such things.

Rev. Owen Allaway

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"Michael Williams" wrote...

Top Five Reasons That I Am Not A Real Dog Collar Type Reverend -

1. Reverends have to either believe in God or be very good at pretending
they do.
2. Sunday mornings are for sleeping, or trying to sleep while nursing a
hangover.
3. You will more than likely be stuck in some crap village in the middle of
nowhere.
4. You get paid nothing and so have to survive on cakes and cucumber
sandwiches made by old ladies who see you as a substitute son now their real
sons have left to get proper jobs in big towns.
5. You have to do christenings, which means BEING PUKED ON BY BABIES.

Owen

Alastair Foster

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1:Star Wars
2:The Killer
3:Hard Boiled
4:Pulp Fiction
5:Die Hard

No order.


"shaun.lucas" wrote:

> In no particular order...
>
> Movies
>
> 1. Star Wars
> 2. Independence Day
> 3. The Abyss: Special Edition
> 4. Blade Runner
> 5. The Matrix
>
> Sequels
>
> 1. Aliens: Special Edition
> 2: Terminator 2: Judgement Day - Special Edition
> 3. Batman Returns
> 4. Mad Max 2 (The Road Warrior)
> 5. Die Hard 2
>
> Shaun.


Samir Sheldenkar

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1. Clue
2. Reservoir Dogs
3. The Usual Suspects
4. The Matrix
5. Spaceballs, Naked Gun 1/2, Hot shots 1/2, Loaded Weapon 1 etc.

2-5 are in no particular order. And yes, 5 is basically a whole genre of
films, but I just liek parodies and can't choose between any
of them.

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Rain

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Aug 23, 2000, 3:00:00 AM8/23/00
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A long time ago, in a newsgroup far, far away, Daniel Thornton
<dan...@the-wibble.co.uk> wrote something to the effect of:

before I start, I've only just noticed who this is I am about to argue
with, hey Danny.


>
>Yes it was. It relied on special effects which were excellent for the time.
>A few years later when it's popularity was waning it was re-cut with new
>effects to hide the shallow, boring "plot" for a while in order to pave the
>way for new shallow, boring over-produced sequels.
>
>Star Wars is a clone of every western ever made, just set in space.
>

this coming from a man who would rate Independence day as a good movie.
Independence day had nothing new at all what-so-ever (BLS), Star Wars
was a new twist on a tired story line, boy meets Jedi, Jedi gets killed
by evil Dark lord, boy gets hand sliced off by evil Dark lord, Dark lord
is boys father, boys evil father kills evil Emperor, boy celebrates with
tree swinging midget people.

of course, I remember seeing a Clint Eastwood film just like that, what
was it called?? "The Good, the Bad and the Sith lord"?

<< dink >>
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Rain

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A long time ago, in a newsgroup far, far away, "shaun.lucas"
<shaun...@ntlworld.com> wrote something to the effect of:

>In no particular order...
>
>Movies
>
>1. Star Wars

yup

>2. Independence Day

nope

>3. The Abyss: Special Edition

nope

>4. Blade Runner

yup, if I'd seen the DC, I have the original and I still think it's
great.

>5. The Matrix

nope


>Sequels
>
>1. Aliens: Special Edition

nope

>2: Terminator 2: Judgement Day - Special Edition

yup

>3. Batman Returns

nope

>4. Mad Max 2 (The Road Warrior)

nope

>5. Die Hard 2

nope


I hate all the Mad Max's, ID4 sucks so much ass it makes wicky-wicky-
wild-wild-west (or wicky-wicky-walk-walked-out as I call it) look like
Citizen Cane, and as for the Batman movies?? come on...the only good bit
in ANY of the Batman movies is at the end of Batman Forever (is that the
one with Jim Carrey?) where they climb onto the island that Two-face and
the Riddler are hiding and Robin goes

"Holy rusted metal Batman!"

Batman: "what did you say??"

Robin: "this metal, it's all rusted, and holey!"

Batman: "oh"

I just thought that was really funny.

but hardly worth the money.

best films in no order at all:

1. Usual Suspects
2. Reservois Dogs/Pulp Fiction
3. Goodfellas/Casino
4. The Life of Brian
5. The Blair Witch Project (only because it was fucking excellent in the
Cinema)

if you dont count TBWP, then, it would have to be........actually I dont
know, there are so many classics that I need to see, probably, I would
rate Bladerunner the directors cut in the top 5 if I had seen it.

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Daniel Thornton

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On Wed, 23 Aug 2000 11:42:02 +0100, Rain said...

> this coming from a man who would rate Independence day as a good movie.
> Independence day had nothing new at all what-so-ever

But it didn't pretend to. It didn't pretend to have a coherent, sensible
plot, it didn't pretend that it was just an excuse for some hammy acting
and special effects. It was a B-Movie, and it knew it, and that's why it's
good.

Rain

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A long time ago, in a newsgroup far, far away, Tinman
<Tin...@portalofevil.com> wrote something to the effect of:
It's in vogue to diss ANYTHING popular. Like, Travis - The man who. Now,
this is/was a great album, but then there were the people who, just to
try to seem "ahead of the times" claimed "it's no way as good as their
first album". Where, as most people SHOULD know, their first album
sucked, it was ok, but nothing special.....hence why they were never
famous till the second one.

so, to put my name into the big "hip to be square" hat.

I hate sex, it's so crap, It's just a blatent rip off of masturbation.
All they've done is take a brilliant 1 player and added a woman, hoo-
fucking-rah, you get the same pleasure only a little more messy, and
then what?? you cant just roll over and go to sleep?? you've got to keep
playing.

--
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shaun.lucas

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> But it didn't pretend to. It didn't pretend to have a coherent, sensible
> plot, it didn't pretend that it was just an excuse for some hammy acting
> and special effects. It was a B-Movie, and it knew it, and that's why it's
> good.

Thank you Daniel - someone else who can appreciate the movie for what it is.

Shaun.

shaun.lucas

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> I hate sex, it's so crap, It's just a blatent rip off of masturbation.
> All they've done is take a brilliant 1 player and added a woman, hoo-
> fucking-rah, you get the same pleasure only a little more messy, and
> then what?? you cant just roll over and go to sleep?? you've got to keep
> playing.

LOL!

That's the funniest thing I've read this week.

Shaun.

The Great Cthulhu

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"James Lyon" <james...@cableinet.co.uk> wrote in message
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> Dawn Of The Dead

B-b-b-but that's a sequel, you sly fox you.

Mine. I hate doing this though, I really need a top 100.

Close Encounters
Star Wars
True Romance
Bullet In The Head
The Princess Bride

Sequels-

The Empire Strikes Back
Aliens
Day Of The Dead
Evil Dead 2
Ummm, can't think off the top of my head. . . .

Rain

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Aug 23, 2000, 3:00:00 AM8/23/00
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A long time ago, in a newsgroup far, far away, Daniel Thornton
<dan...@the-wibble.co.uk> wrote something to the effect of:

>
>But it didn't pretend to. It didn't pretend to have a coherent, sensible
>plot, it didn't pretend that it was just an excuse for some hammy acting
>and special effects. It was a B-Movie, and it knew it, and that's why it's
>good.
>
your replies are weak old man.

your just babbling now, ID4 was over hyped and over rated garbage with
rediculous amounts of money pumped into it's annoyingly crap cast. It's
an easy to watch feel-good movie, but nothing special, I wouldn't rate
it under the "best movie of all time" category. It's a nice movie, but
not a GREAT one. It's like "Willy Wonka and the Chocolate Factory", I
like it, but it's not genius.


--
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The Great Cthulhu

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"Rain" <Ra...@fieldhead.demon.co.uk> wrote in message
news:v4qQqGAz...@fieldhead.demon.co.uk...

>
> 1. Usual Suspects
> 2. Reservois Dogs/Pulp Fiction
> 3. Goodfellas/Casino
> 4. The Life of Brian
> 5. The Blair Witch Project (only because it was fucking excellent in the
> Cinema)

You see , this is why I hate top 5's. All the films you listed are amongst my
favourites but because I didn't think of them at the time they are not in my top
5 and I went off on a fantasy/ sci-fi/ horror list. Kind of.
I am about to watch BWP again right after I finish up here, a film which I
believe is even better on DVD than the cinema. Top extras as well, not as good
as ' The Thing' though. Gah! that's another favourite I forgot to list. And 'Out
Of Sight'. And. . . . oh, fuck it.


Daniel Thornton

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On Wed, 23 Aug 2000 20:54:31 +0100, Rain said...

> I wouldn't rate
> it under the "best movie of all time" category. It's a nice movie, but
> not a GREAT one.

Nobody here said it was the best movie ever. It was one of their personal
favourite films.

Next you'll be saying people are thick because they haven't read Lord Of
the Flies or something.*

*Note: Joke requires knowledge of uk.media.tv.misc

Rain

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Aug 23, 2000, 3:00:00 AM8/23/00
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A long time ago, in a newsgroup far, far away, Daniel Thornton
<dan...@the-wibble.co.uk> wrote something to the effect of:
>
>Nobody here said it was the best movie ever. It was one of their personal
>favourite films.
>
>Next you'll be saying people are thick because they haven't read Lord Of
>the Flies or something.*
>
>*Note: Joke requires knowledge of uk.media.tv.misc
>

you know, I dont really know how to approach you anymore, it seems
pretty pointless even trying to argue. You're never going to admit your
the most wrong person ever, so why bother trying to make you?

--
Rain

Tinman

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shaun.lucas wrote

> Thank you Daniel - someone else who can appreciate the movie for what it
is.

Hmmmm... Maybe it's just me but real low budget B-movies of the 50's and
60's are so much better than the cynical pap that is ID4.

What next? 'The Mummy' (the recent version) in your top 10 list?

http://www.aslan.demon.co.uk/phantom1.htm

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Tinman

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Rain wrote

> I hate sex, it's so crap, It's just a blatent rip off of masturbation.
> All they've done is take a brilliant 1 player and added a woman, hoo-
> fucking-rah, you get the same pleasure only a little more messy, and
> then what?? you cant just roll over and go to sleep?? you've got to keep
> playing.

Rain, i loev you muchly.

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Rain

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A long time ago, in a newsgroup far, far away, Tinman
<Tin...@portalofevil.com> wrote something to the effect of:

thanks, I aim to please.

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Rain

James Lyon

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The Great Cthulhu wrote:

> "James Lyon" <james...@cableinet.co.uk> wrote in message
> news:39A2AE39...@cableinet.co.uk...
> > Dawn Of The Dead
>
> B-b-b-but that's a sequel, you sly fox you.
>

And it features none of the original actors. Except maybe at the
television station at the start, so, that's my argument crushed.

And I forgot one anyway:

Alice by Jan Svankmajer. It's a mixture of stop-motion animation and
live action of the Alice In Wonderland story and it's simply lovely.

And another Top 5: The Top 5 list of movies I haven't seen yet but want
to even though they've been out for years:

Day Of The Dead
Assault On Precinct 13
Spinal Tap
Buckaroo Banzai
Er, The Little Mermaid or something.


Daniel Thornton

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On Wed, 23 Aug 2000 23:41:17 +0100, Rain said...

> you know, I dont really know how to approach you anymore, it seems
> pretty pointless even trying to argue.

Please don't read my posts anymore.

Daniel Thornton

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On Wed, 23 Aug 2000 23:44:47 +0100, Tinman said...

> What next? 'The Mummy' (the recent version) in your top 10 list?

Everyone is entitled to their own opinion, mister. I hate Star Wars; I
don't begrudge other people having it in their top five. It's crap, but
that's my opinion.

Lucas chose Independence Day for his top five. Where's the problem? He
liked the film. I see no problem with that.

Tinman

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Daniel Thornton

> Everyone is entitled to their own opinion, mister. I hate Star Wars; I
> don't begrudge other people having it in their top five. It's crap, but
> that's my opinion.
>
> Lucas chose Independence Day for his top five. Where's the problem? He
> liked the film. I see no problem with that.

I did say that originally...

I can't remember why i started arguing(or 'discussing') this in great
detail...

Oh yeah - i think it was because you were attempting to force the idea that
star wars is crap down my throat (don't bother arguing this point please -
blah blah blah just stating my opinion blah blah blah - i don't care)

Anyway, discussion over from my point of view.

--
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Michael Williams

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Aug 24, 2000, 3:00:00 AM8/24/00
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> Hmmmm... Maybe it's just me but real low budget B-movies of the 50's and
> 60's are so much better than the cynical pap that is ID4.
>
> What next? 'The Mummy' (the recent version) in your top 10 list?

I am well known for my elitist musical and cinema tastes but I'd just like
to say i thought the mummy was one of the best films I say last year (if it
was last year).

Michael Williams

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Aug 24, 2000, 3:00:00 AM8/24/00
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> It's in vogue to diss ANYTHING popular. Like, Travis - The man who. Now,
> this is/was a great album, but then there were the people who, just to
> try to seem "ahead of the times" claimed "it's no way as good as their
> first album". Where, as most people SHOULD know, their first album
> sucked, it was ok, but nothing special.....hence why they were never
> famous till the second one.

I think most people who diss travis do so because they are incredibly,
unbelievably dull. And shit in the extreme. I certainly don't pretend to
"think their earlier work was better".

shaun.lucas

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> Hmmmm... Maybe it's just me but real low budget B-movies of the 50's and
> 60's are so much better than the cynical pap that is ID4.
>
> What next? 'The Mummy' (the recent version) in your top 10 list?

I have the DVD. It is good, yes.

Shaun.

Tinman

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Michael Williams wrote

> I think most people who diss travis do so because they are incredibly,
> unbelievably dull. And shit in the extreme. I certainly don't pretend to
> "think their earlier work was better".


Well done, miss-the-point man!

--
Tinman

Samir Sheldenkar

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Aug 25, 2000, 3:00:00 AM8/25/00
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Article <1AKWkCA3...@fieldhead.demon.co.uk> was the best thing
ever! Because Rain said...

>
> your just babbling now, ID4 was over hyped and over rated garbage with
> rediculous amounts of money pumped into it's annoyingly crap cast. It's
> an easy to watch feel-good movie, but nothing special, I wouldn't rate

> it under the "best movie of all time" category. It's a nice movie, but
> not a GREAT one. It's like "Willy Wonka and the Chocolate Factory", I
> like it, but it's not genius.

But "Willy Wonka and the Chocolate Factory" IS genius.

It has everything, man - chocolate, a dancing grandfather, a bizarre
factory owner with an excellent outfit, fat midgets that sing annoyingly
catchy tunes, bloated purple children...

Michael Williams

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Aug 25, 2000, 3:00:00 AM8/25/00
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> But "Willy Wonka and the Chocolate Factory" IS genius.
>
> It has everything, man - chocolate, a dancing grandfather, a bizarre
> factory owner with an excellent outfit, fat midgets that sing annoyingly
> catchy tunes, bloated purple children...

I watched it recently on telly and I had forgotten quite how disturbing Gene
Wilder is in it. A fucking brilliant performance.

Tom Camfield

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Aug 25, 2000, 3:00:00 AM8/25/00
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>I would
>rate Bladerunner the directors cut in the top 5 if I had seen it.

This makes me laugh.

Tom Camfield

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Aug 25, 2000, 3:00:00 AM8/25/00
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>>In no particular order...
>>
>>Movies
>>
>
>Cross of Iron
>Wild Bunch
>Once Upon A Time In The West
>Akira

Violent Cop instead.

>Sonatine
>
>>Sequels
>>
>
>Dawn of the Dead

And Three Colours Red.

Tom Camfield

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Aug 25, 2000, 3:00:00 AM8/25/00
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On Thu, 24 Aug 2000 08:37:16 GMT, "Michael Williams"
<michael....@fdgroup.com.é> wrote:

>> Hmmmm... Maybe it's just me but real low budget B-movies of the 50's and
>> 60's are so much better than the cynical pap that is ID4.
>>
>> What next? 'The Mummy' (the recent version) in your top 10 list?
>

>I am well known for my elitist musical and cinema tastes

Top Five? Citizen Kane / Godfather / Seven Samurai type elite?

Tinman

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Aug 26, 2000, 3:00:00 AM8/26/00
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Michael Williams wrote

> I watched it recently on telly and I had forgotten quite how disturbing
Gene
> Wilder is in it. A fucking brilliant performance.

Yes. He's brilliant in it. Maybe it's just me but i didn't really grasp how
much of a psycho Wonka is until i grew older... But then, maybe it's just
me.

--
Tinman

Abigail Ryder

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Aug 26, 2000, 7:26:56 PM8/26/00
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Michael Williams wrote:

> > It has everything, man - chocolate, a dancing grandfather, a bizarre
> > factory owner with an excellent outfit, fat midgets that sing annoyingly
> > catchy tunes, bloated purple children...
>

> I watched it recently on telly and I had forgotten quite how disturbing Gene
> Wilder is in it. A fucking brilliant performance.

That was one of the films that scared the crap out of me as a child. Ahh.
Memories. That scene in the tunnel where the image of a chicken getting its
head lopped off can be seen is good old fashioned nightmare fuel.

--Abby.

Rain

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Sep 2, 2000, 4:06:10 PM9/2/00
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A long time ago, in a newsgroup far, far away, David Bulmer
<da...@bulmers.demon.co.uk> wrote something to the effect of:
>
>Same happened t me. He's completely evil, dude! The bit where you see
>him through that machinery that makes the gum, swear he's got evil
>contact lenses in. Also, this:
>
>"MY CHILD IS DYING!!"
>
>"No. Stop. Help."
>
>"WONKA YOU'RE A LUNATIC!"
>
>"mm-hmm"
>
>After seeing it the time it was shown on 5 before last, I went and
>immediately started reading the book, and was very disappointed as it's
>not as good as the film. Wonka's quite nice, for a start. None of the
>scary stuff - "Nobody ever goes in... and nobody ever comes out.
>
I watched it just before bringing the topic up in the hilariously
intelligent "top movie ever" argument. I had read the book before the
film and so always had the "it's not as good as the book" feeling, but,
now that I've seen the film a squillion times (4) I'll read the book in
the style of the film...and it wont be as good, no sir.

sad really, Roald Dahl was a genius and I loved his books (the Twits
being a strong favourite just behind George's Marvelous Medicine <if
that is the REAL title>) Quentin Blakes drawings were cool too.

in fact, I liked Witches aswell, and, oh, what else??? James and the
Giant peach was cool....I haven't and dont want to see the film.....

what else did he write??

<<http://pages.prodigy.com/psykobrain1/roald_books.htm>>

not the greatest site in the world, in fact, the background is annoying
and the pictures are all broken links, but, it gives a list of books. I
had forgotten about "The magic finger" I mean, how did I manage to
forget that?? It's another GREAT book, The BFG....christ......Matilda,
this guy is the greatest.

As far as I'm concerned you can shove you're JK Rowling books where they
belong, Dahl is the greatest childrens author of all time.

........................................

when I say "you can stick your.." I dont anyone in particular
--
Rain

Daniel Thornton

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On Sat, 2 Sep 2000 21:06:10 +0100, Rain said...

> in fact, I liked Witches aswell, and, oh, what else??? James and the
> Giant peach was cool....I haven't and dont want to see the film.....
> what else did he write??

Esio Trot, his final book was good. Sadly he died before he finished it.
Excellently, Quentin Blake finished it for him and took no credit in the
book for doing so.

--
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http://www.the-wibble.co.uk http://www.thewibble.co.uk

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David Bulmer

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In article <8otr6a$d0n$1...@nnrp1.deja.com>, jedtheh...@my-deja.com
writes
>Yes - it must be said, Roald Dahl was great.
>
>However, there is greatness in JK Rowling...
>
>In the latest 'Harry Potter' book, there is a line that runs the
>following:
>"As the wizard caught up with Harry, he realised it was too late.
>Within a moment, Harry had flicked spunk in the cunt's eye..."
>
>I couldn't believe it, myself.

They're leaving that bit in the film apparently.

--
David Bulmer

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